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Is Fox Dicking Around With The CHRONICLE Sequel?? Apparently So...
We've known for a while now that CHRONICLE scripter Max Landis was hustling to generate a sequel to this year's generally excellent first installment, which was directed by Josh Trank.
Now, in an interview with Playlist, Max's father John Landis (yes, THE John Landis) reveals that Max is encountering resistance from Fox regarding which direction his sequel should take. The subject came up while John was discussing complications on a horror move he'd been developing for a French producer.
Landis even went as far as to compare his plight with his son Max Landis, who is currently working on several gestating projects after his hit superhero flick “Chronicle” earlier this year. One of those project is “Chronicle 2” for Fox, which Landis says, “He wrote a sequel, and it’s amazing, and the studio read it and said, ‘We want ‘Chronicle’ again!’ And he said, ‘No, this is the sequel, it’s the evolution, and they said ‘No, we want that movie again!’ So it’s difficult, we’re dealing with a difficult business.’
I do think there's plenty of room to broaden/enhance/explore the CHRONICLE universe, and tend to agree that the best path may not be to simply rehash/mimic the first movie. Of course, that's basically what's happened with the PARANORMAL ACTIVITY films..and now they're on the fourth (or fifth or sixth) picture (depending on how you look at it), so what do I know?
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At least this movie was actually good. If they're gonna do this, they need to make it a completely different story. Doesn't make sense to follow up on.
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Sounds like Max wants to take the series into a non-shakey-cam direction and I approve. Fox wants more of the same.
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for a shoestring budgeted project. But the one thing that kept annoying me was that not once, NOT ONCE did any of the 'infected' superheroes refer to Star Wars. Was this out of copyright issues? If I get telekinetic powers,one my first action would be force choking some douchebag the first opportunity i get while uttering : i find your lack of faith disturbing' just sayin.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
I thought Chronicle was really good - but ditch the found footage angle
by I_Snake_Plissken
A useless tactic that dragged down an otherwise good film.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
It's a proven fact that marketing suits make the best films
by rev_skarekroe
"Best" of course being a synonym for "most profitable".
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If you want to do another movie about telekinetics just call it something else. The Chrpnicle Brand isn't that strong that it will help a sequel.
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I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL FOR THIS!
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Oct. 11, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST
Seriously, though. I hate it when production companies do this crap
by Jackson
I bet Landis made an amazing script that's even better than the 1st Chronicle, but god forbid hollywood make a good sequel nowadays...
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First off Chronicle isn't good at all. It takes leaps with its characters. The lead is so bland I never cared what happened to him. This movie is "cool" to the youtube generation. Still if Landis wants to do a low budget sequel... GIVE IT TO HIM! The worst thing ever is to turn this into Paranormal Activity. So what will the movie be? They want Chronicle 2 to be another set of teens getting powers and pulling pranks for 40 minutes? Fuck you Fox. I'm sure Landis came up with something cool. You made a good buck off the first allow him to do the second. I still find Chronicle way over rated and aimed mainly at the MTV crowd but still... Making it even more bland is not the way to go.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST
Right, because what does the screenwriter to your surprise hit movie know?
by animatronicmojo
It's supposed to be about big men! In tights! Both physically and mentally!
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Oct. 11, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST
I gotta million other guys who can give me that special Max Landis feeling!
by animatronicmojo
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so true. My friends and I walked out of the theatre doing an entire ad-lib of how some of the TK dialogue should have gone, including "I find your lack of faith disturbing", "impressive, most impressive" and "perhaps you were not as strong as the emperor thought." Made no sense to us either as other people in the lobby were cracking up overhearing us...
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I'm always wary when people start saying things like "This is the sequel, it's the evolution maaaan". Most likely they've written something masturbatory. Anyway, the first Chronicle wasn't really interesting enough to warrant a sequel.
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when describing that first one. I would say it was pretty cool. And I would say it like miley cyrus.
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It shares DNA with Blade Runner and iPhone 5.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST
Maybe FOX doesn't want it's main protaganist to be the villain.
by Jon
Wasn't he originally saying he wanted to make this movie about the first super-villain in the Chronicle "universe". Maybe the script is told from the bad guys point of view and fox doesn't want that.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST
Wonder if they'll invent a host of new ridiculous excuses for characters to hold a camera
by JacksParasites
...and then halfway through, get lazy again and stop even bothering to explain why things that could not possibly have been caught on camera were caught on camera. Ooh, maybe the sequel will explain why a BLOGGER (not a vlogger) needs to always carry a video camera...for their Blog (with a B), or why said BLOGGER (with a letter B) creepily keeps their camera set up recording their front door from the inside and a strategically placed mirror just in case something interesting happens...at their front door...because interesting things worth BLOGGING (with a B) about always show up at your doorstep. God, that fuckin' movie sucked.
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if you're going to have an angsty nerd be your protagonist, he really better be charming. that guy was annoying.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 10:19 a.m. CST
Try this again I like chronicle a lot but in a way felt it was a missed opportunity
by Monolith_Jones
Spoilers..... Watching the film I thought that it was interesting that we were witnessing the origin of a super villain. His death at the end was a mistake IMO, his arc should have played out over the next two films.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST
Oddly, CHRONICLE 2 will be a prequel of sorts called ''WHERE DID THE SPACE ROCK COME FROM''
by spacehog
And odder still, after the opening credits, it's just an entire print of PROMETHEUS flipped horizontally.
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Yeah, but did he die? Being that powerful, a simple spearing might not be terminal. Who knows what powers he was still gestating... Just sayin'
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Oct. 11, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST
maybe the sequel will be when the camera in the mountains at the end get picked up by the yeti
by Stephen
and we witness mischievous yeti hijinks thru the found footage angle
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and the yeti with the camera would show his pals and they would go into human towns and film the pranks they pull on people.
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and creates a web reality show about killing tourists and then the other yetis have to stop him.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST
"Another one just like the other one" is what's been fueling Hollywood for decades.
by grampageezer
Hollywood doesn't give rat's ass about art or storyline, all that's imortant to the movie factory suits is making money. And if something comes along that is regarded as inventive, intelligent or different, (not saying Chronicle was, but it was entertaining) that's a bonus. Remember, if it sells, make another exactly like it and sell it again. If the second one doesn't sell, shelve it and make a reboot a couple of years later.
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So 'Chronicle 2' would act as an origin story for the legendary Abominable Cameraman?
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he has to be abominable without turning off the audience
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but he is white unlike Will Smith's son, so it is ok.
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Keep "Chronicle 2" as is and write a "Chronicle Zero" set in the mid 70's which is the "more of the same" that Fox wants. You're happy. I'm happy. Fox is happy. duke_of_url is happy. Everyone's happy. Scooby-doo ending!
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Sometimes (SOME but rarely) nepotism works. Jake Kasdan? LOVE Zero Effect, and Walk Hard.. AND Orange County.. and.. to a lesser extent Bad Teacher. Jason Reitman? Ok.. Juno.. not my cup of tea.. but I dug the hell out of Thank you for Smoking. I haven't seen Chronicle.. couldn't have even told you it was John Landis' son who did it (I had ZERO idea).. now that I know.. am I rushing out to see it? NOPE.. still sounds dumb. Karate Kid redux? It was BAD BAD BAD.. and not just for Jaden.. He didn't help matters.. but.. while he was the strongest part of the film.. I am sorry, Morita was a COMIC/actor.. Jackie Chan is a martial artist who acts... its NOT the same thing.. It's like calling Garth Brooks a baseball player. So.. is it racism? or is it no longer OK to call something out that just SUCKS? Sorry.. but the Karate Kid redux SUCKED.. just flat out SUCKED. I won't say it was the worst pile out that year (by far) but I saw it ONCE and that was more than enough for the rest of my lifetime.
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never saw any of them shits. but I'm baffled as to why anybody would expect a fuckin KARATE KID REMAKE to be any good at all, even if the first one actually was any good.
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i guess it's my fault too now sry
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Michael Douglas Emilio Estevez/Charlie Sheen Mark Wahlberg Kiefer Sutherland
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If they leave it in the writer's hands this time, maybe it won't suck.
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double standards, mate. and the Karate Kid remake was excellent, the haters can suck it.
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Oct. 11, 2012, noon CST
Looks like nothing has changed at Fox now that Tom Rothman is gone.
by Mr. Pricklepants
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We were told this movie was awesome but I found the leads to be terrible--with the exception of the ONE charismatic guy in the whole movie who gets killed for no reason. I don't know, it seemed like a movie tailor-made for me but I really disliked it!
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People line up to watch the same damn movie over and over again i.e. Paranormal Activity. Than you have someone taking a different take on the Found Footage, and instead of embracing it & letting it grow. You go no do the same freaking movie over again. But unfortunately that's the nature of the business. That's why you get The Hangover 2 that's beat for beat the same movie except in Bangkok. People don't understand that when we see a sequel we don't want to see the same damn movie. We just want to see the continuing story of the characters we love.
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..at one point in the store when they are fucking with people one of the characters is holding a toy red lightsaber as if he were using "the force."
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And then there is the half-billion in business it did with the rest of us. It was terrific. As for "Chronicle"--as long as they put in another Sacrificial Negro character, I'm sure the crowd will love it.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST
Max Landis is a smug, self-loving, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual, ripe cherry pie douchebag.
by The Krypton Kid
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Oct. 11, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST
And Chronicle is BS because the black kid, who happens to be the best character and played by the best actor in the movie, is killed for no damn reason. Typical Hollywood BS.
by The Krypton Kid
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So I made them watch the original. Much better film than the remake, we also watched part II which was okay , can see what they tried to do by changing the setting but it didn't quite come off. Kreese made me laugh at the start , punching through car windows and holding kids by the throat. Morita was a legend though. I think I remember not really digging part III and never even saw IV.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST
And the original Karate Kid Trilogy are among the most sincere films ever made. Anyone who hates those films needs to get a clue.
by The Krypton Kid
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Oct. 11, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST
The Karate Kid Part II is the ultimate Karate Kid film.
by The Krypton Kid
The Daniel-Miyagi relationship grows deeper into a true father-son relationship. Daniel discovers true love. Daniel learns a deeper level of Karate. And in the end, Daniel fights a freaking death match. Just a powerful, powerful movie that works on every level for me. And I defy anyone to say that the scene where Daniel comforts Mr. Miyagi on the beach after Mr. Miyagi's father dies is not one of the most emotionally powerful scenes ever shot.
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In KK2, Daniel proves that he is a good martial artist capable of defeating a very skilled and dangerous opponent in a a fight for his life. But suddenly in KK3, he is still a naive martial arts athlete who needs to discover his own fighting style in order to defend his title from a strong competitor in a tournament event, ffs? That does not make any sense. And it doesnt, because KK3 was simply a remake of the original movie that's why it is the weakest of the trilogy.
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Was that Mr Miyagi taught Daniel Karate so he wouldn't have to fight. Whereas Jackie Chan taught Jaden Smith Kung Fu so he could 'face' his tormentors. Completely different philosophy, and maybe a sign of the times.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST
cavejohnson, you are dead on right. And it used to kill me as a kid and still does to this day.
by The Krypton Kid
It was BS that Daniel was getting constantly dominated by the douche after he had developed so tremendously as a martial artist and defeated the budding master Chozen in Okinawa. I understand they were going for the theme of Daniel losing focus/balance, but man did it come off as ridiculous and completely unbelievable. The Daniel LaRusso from Karate Kid Part II would have taken Mike Barnes apart. Chozen would have taken Barnes apart. But I'm such a Karate Kid fan that I love that movie despite its flaws. The final three minutes and the Kata training scenes are quite powerful, as is Pat Morita's heartbreaking performance. RIP, Mr. Morita, and thank you for one of the truly great performances/characters ever put to film.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST
i cant believe so many people give a shit about the karate kid
by Stephen
but i guess its like that for lots of movies.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST
booger_t, why do you think Will Smith insisted on the remake being called "The Karate Kid" even though there's no freaking Karate in that disgrace of a movie?
by The Krypton Kid
Because The Karate Kid is beloved and has tremendous name value. He knew a film titled The Karate Kid would be a guaranteed hit for his kid.
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I just think it's weird. I don't see the appeal.
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it's like free willy to me. Like in 10 years when they remake free willy, will people be upset because they did it wrong?
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Oct. 11, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
cosmic_dolphin actually in the original KK, Miyagi's motivation
by frank
for teaching karate to Daniel, was a bit selfish: At first he didnt want to teach karate to Daniel. But when he witnessed that the Cobra Kai teacher was not teaching proper karate and its philosophy to his students, he decided to make a point by challenging his school in the tournament competition. That's why the tournament fights had a dual meaning for the two co-protagonists: For Daniel, it was a way to stand up against his bullies and prove that he is not a loser. For Miyagi, it was to show that the real karate was not the crap that Cobra Kai was teaching. Something that he didnt take in light heart in the intro of the sequel. hehe.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
booger_t outside the USA, the KK remake was also titled as the Kung Fu Kid.
by frank
check imdb for more info.
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Let's just hope the story, whatever it is, has taken all the time it needs in the right person. Because while the directing and acting were both fine in Chronicle, it was the script that sold much of the movie, and I'd love to see the second continue in that vein.
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You know how Brandon Lee died young just like his dad? Maybe there could be a similar Landis curse, where they both direct like fucking imbeciles and put actors in really dangerous situations. I know Max isn't directing yet but he probably will at some point. I've seen photos of the corpses from the Twilight Zone fuck up; not a pretty sight.
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Instead of karate or kung fu, they should have had it be about a nerdy Asian kid who after moving to San Francisco is picked on by a gang of violent gay environmentalist. The poor kid is about to commit suocide, but is saved and then taught Jeet Kune Do by the ghost of Bruce Lee. The Jeet Kune Do Kid No one will fuck with that kid after he unleashes an ass whooping.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST
They'll make more money on the sequels if they make them something different/better. Hangovers and Paranormals made less than they could have.
by happybunni
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Oct. 11, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST
How can you hate on the original Karate Kids!? You can't deny 1 & 2 ok 3 sucked & so did the fourth LOL
by Wcwlkr
But the first 2 were great! And I loved the 2nd one! I loved the new setting and trying to toughen the kid up LOL.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST
It's one thing when you don't really have any new idea to make a sequel to a hit movie to, but then to HAVE that idea, but the suits still want the carbon copy anyway...
by TheSeeker7
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Oct. 11, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST
btw, I've tried twice so far, and STILL haven't gotten more than about 15-20 minutes into Chronicle
by TheSeeker7
And I know, I've had a ton of people talk about how really well it was done, and I'm hoping I can finally complete the viewing process soon. But I'm sorry, the character work and the writing in the opening act is so mindnumbingly awful, at the time I simply had to shut it off.<br> <br> My favorite is when the 2 friends are driving in the truck at night, and the driver turns to the annoying little emo kid doing all the filming and says "you're really gonna shoot EVERYTHING?" and goes on to suggest "don't you think by taking that camera around everywhere, you're like putting up a barrier between you and everyone else?<br> <br> To which the friend replies (I think, if memory serves) "well, maybe I WANT a barrier up". Alright, first of all I'd bury my fist in this douche's mouth, god I really despise the emo attitude. And second of all, gee, thanks filmmakers, I wasn't nearly smart enough to get that point from it being the subtext of the scene, it was far better and easier for you to come right out and have the characters blatantly acknowledge what the metaphor was supposed to be.
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Oct. 11, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
Chronicle was VERY good. I absolutely do not want to see a rehash.
by UtopiaComplex
I would, however, be very intrigued by where Landis would like to take the story from here though.
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You smell like hamburgers!
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I found it interesting how many elements from the Richard Donner SUPERMAN movies (I and II) were in CHRONICLE. Visually, you have the flying (naturally) but more specifically, the fight at the end. You had specific fight scenes from SUPERMAN II in there: the punch through the building; the superman at eiffel tower/seattle space needle; the bus being thrown at superman; maybe even a manhole cover being thrown at him. I also noticed how the spacecraft underneath the ground looked similar to the escape pod Superman as a baby was in. By the end, the surviving character goes to a buddhist temple to learn self-control and other benevolent philosophy. If you think about it, the actor looks a bit like someone who could play superman. Add in the "blue suit" he has on, one could consider this a more realistic way superman could exist on Earth (the lifeform was inside the crystal and transported into the 3 human lifeforms). On a side note, I always joke with my friend (at the end of CHRONICLE) that the League of Shadows is on the other side of the mountain, where the future Batman is training.
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The writers and the community here should start a campaign on a film like this. To allow the filmmakers some freedom to actually take the story where it should go. Let the audience be vocal, and let them put pressure on the studios. Otherwise we all simply consent to worship at the shrine of mediocrity, and turn back to television to find our finest fare. Hell, imagine BREAKING BAD if it had allowed too much network control...
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Oct. 11, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST
I wish Yagami would write down all the Fox Execs names in his Death Note.
by Henry Fool
I could probably forgive him for what he did to L if he'd kill all the execs while they're in a meeting with Murdoch. I'd write his name down last so he could watch all his people die before joining them in eternal slumber.
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I enjoyed Chronicle. It was better than just another entertaining distraction. It rose above the found-footage formula. I read a comment somewhere that this is the closest we're going to get to Akira for some time and I'm inclined to agree. I hated the talent show scene. Felt like I was being pandered to. That whole snot should have been excised on the cutting room floor, including the villain's inability to perform. Too formula. Too cliche. But what really pissed me off about the movie was how they established their invulnerability in the diner scene, where they did the Bishop stab-around-the-hand thing. Later on, the villain was stopped by being impaled. Lame. Now, perhaps that happened because the villain wasn't 'focusing' on being invulnerable or whatever, but the movie didn't do a very good job of explaining that requirement. This did not stop me from enjoying a damn well put together low-budget flick aimed at geek audiences. Oh, and fuck all you divisive racist assholes who see everything along the lines of pigment. When I saw this flick, I saw how one of the three lifelong friends was wrongly perished. Later, when I hit TB, I read all about how 'racist' his death was. Fuck that noise. He was one of the three that had no familial bond. THAT was why he was expendable, plot-wise. If the character was played by just another white guy, you'd be bitching that there were no minorities represented, which is code for 'there were no BLACKS represented.' If the kid was played by an Asian actor, or an Hispanic actor, or even a white-Hispanic actor, none of you motherfuckers would have noticed. So kiss off with your fucking white guilt.
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...Better than I expected. Im so damn certain if this kid landis's name was say Chris Nolan, there would be no fucking studio interference whatsoever! I wish studio figure heads back the fuck off and let these talented directors and writers make original fucking content we're tired of the prepackaged bullshit more of the same from studios. We're tired of your bullshit EXEC'S DO YOU HEAR ME!!! ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!! YOU DO NOT ENTERTAIN!
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A POV shot of the cameraman being decapitated by a helicopter
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Oct. 11, 2012, 11 p.m. CST
starwarsbluray, it's hilarious that you don't think Max Landis kills actors and children like errday
by spacehog
Who's going to stop him? Who the fuck is going to stop him?
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"Carrie" with male antagonist. Bastard stepfather substitutes for stereotypical Hollywood lunatic Xtian mother. Sweep of recent productions of "Othello" unfruitful, hence token black.
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Oct. 13, 2012, 11:37 p.m. CST
it wasn't stupid to kill the black guy cuz he was black it was stupid because he was the only likable actor
by Stephen
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Oct. 14, 2012, 12:49 a.m. CST
I love how when people call out a movie for racism, then other people counter that person saying they have white guilt, when..
by Balkin Flabgurter
You have no idea if the guy is even white.
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or human being.. or even Terran for that matter..
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Oct. 14, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST
You know why they want a carbon copy? Because it will MAKE MONEY. A new idea ....... won't. It's that simple.
by Nintendarth
What boggles - BOGGLES - my mind is how few people here realize that movies are ENTIRELY a money-making operation. You approach it from the perspective they're trying to make a good movie. The only reason a studio cares about making a GOOD movie is if it's going for Oscar gold, but even then they'll sacrifice quality first over Oscar-bait. A quality film is literally the LAST - LAST - priority of any movie producer/studio. They want to make a PROFIT. A certain profit - albeit less than the original - is STILL a better investment EVERY TIME than a new idea. Let me put it to you this way. Here's a million dollars. Now, you can't spend it. You have to invest it. Let's pretend that I can guarantee you that you will earn money on investment X but you will likely lose EVERYTHING on investment Y - with NO promise of greater yield for investment Y. Okay, yeah, you're an idiot if you choose anything but investment X. Now, let's say Investment X earns N dollars. Great, you've earned that much profit. Now, let's say it's time for you to invest again, and you MUST invest. You can invest in Investment X-Part-2 which is GUARANTEED a yield slightly smaller than Investment X but will GUARANTEE you a profit still from your original investment. Investment Y-Point-1 has the same risk level as Investment Y - that is, you'll get no guarantee of ANY yield at all, and in fact could lose ALL the original million PLUS any profits you earned in the interim. Yeah, you're an idiot if you don't choose Investment-X-Point-One. This is how movies are made. It is THAT simple. It really IS a lot like CABIN IN THE WOODS - people put down their bets on a big metaphorical white board about what they think will interest the demographic involved and then someone wins and someone loses. It's a numbers game and NOTHING more. It is not art. Movies are product. They are not art. It may enrage you to understand this, but it is factual. It is inescapable fact. You can boil down EVERY decision ANY studio has EVER made to this question: will this maximize profits? And if you look at whatever direction the movie studio went, it means someone thought that they were maximizing profits and minimizing RISK. What's even more galling you you all, I'm sure, is that whenever a studio decides to buck the trend and take a risk on something even a LITTLE bit outside the mainstream, or weird - it COLLAPSES at the box-office. This happens literally every time. WATCHMEN SCOTT PILGRIM SNAKES ON A PLANE DREDD FRANKENWEENIE PARANORMAN JONAH HEX PRIEST KICK ASS SERENITY http://www.cracked.com/funny-4739-scott-pilgrim/ SO, yeah, CHRONICLE 2 will get made and it will be a totally compromised take-no-chances remake of Part 1 with a whole new cast and a cameo or two, but the fact is - that's the safe investment for the studiio. So suck it up and live with the compromise and suckle at the teat of whatever the studios deign to give you, which will be increasingly less and less in the way of obscure comic book sources. Sorry, folks - the mainstream ain't you, and you ain't the mainstream, and you'd better get used to it or the butthurt will be televised.
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Attendance is expected to drop at ComiCons consistently over the next decade. It already HAS dwindled. And what's more? ALL major studios have announced NO plans to appear in future ComiCons after the disaster of DREDD. It was the big nail in the coffin proving the ComiCon buzz is totally meaningless. Sorry folks, you frikked up.
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But the primary problem, the lead was a whiny douche that I couldn't care less about, should be solved. Still, Landis should have written a few more drafts of that script. Woah.
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who spends a good portion of his life living as a monk in Tibet. Then he goes back to the World and has become a sort of zen super-powered dude. And he wants to change the World. So he is sort of a God. Then something happens...
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