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Rob Zombie Gives You A Peek At THE LORDS OF SALEM!!
The Kidd here...
Rob Zombie has been very hit or miss with me over the course of his short filmmaking career. THE DEVIL'S REJECTS is the only film of his catalog that really stands out to me, and some of the earlier parts of HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES have merit, but the rest of his first film really falls apart in the second half, and then there were those two HALLOWEEN debacles. I have no question that Zombie has a love and a passion for horror... it's just a matter of if he can shape that well enough to make more good feature films. He's shown promise... but after awhile, potential can only get you so far.
That brings us to his next film THE LORDS OF SALEM, which Zombie premiered up at Toronto earlier this year. I've heard mixed things about SALEM from those who managed to see it, so I'll have to wait to see where I come down on it later down the road, but at least from the look of the first trailer, it's safe to say Zombie has cobbled together a film that does look visually appealing.
This may be his best looking film as a director, but we'll have to see how the rest of it works, because there's not really much of a sense as to what the film is about from this early glimpse. In fact, the dialogue is absolute minimal that there's not much to take from this trailer except the eye candy.
-Billy Donnelly
"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"
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Using Mozart's music and images of George Mélies...
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Oct. 4, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST
I hope his wife got acting lessons before this was made.
by Bodacious_Crumb
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Oct. 4, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
At least it'll be better than Antichrist and the talking animals
by Domi'sInnerChild
Were the witches drawing a basketball?
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Oct. 4, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
Black Sunday + The Devil Rides Out + Trick or Treat = TLOS
by Roman Troy Moronie
Sammi Curr rules!!!
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yippee
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8yC1MOZq-g
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like Chinese fingercuffs, baby!
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Witch: Satan! Fuck! Fucking satan! Sheri Moon: Motherfucker! Fuck! Fucking fuck! Scare guy in mask: Fuck you!
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Good stuff.
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It would be this stupid ass movie trailer. I mean seriously, who the fuck watches this crap???
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Miles away from anything he's made before. I'm impressed. Shockingly impressed.
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With an attitude like that, I wonder why someone like yourself is even on a website like this.
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Looks great. I actually really like Zombie's films. They're certainly not perfect, and they can certainly be strident, but they are usually different, and I like his aesthetic. Devil's Rejects is easily his best, but I've come to enjoy things about his Halloween films, too.
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Rob Zombie has a very good eye for directing. Unfortunately, he's a terrible writer. This trailer works because it's mostly visuals and no dialog. The minute someone opens their mouth and starts spewing that redneck, vulgar dialog that Zombie loves so much, it'll probably go downhill. That said, this teaser does have my a little intrigued.
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I love schlock/camp/exploitation but the only Rob Zombie movie with any actual theatrical merit is "Devil's Rejects". And despite the artsy look of the trailer I have low expectations. I don't despise his work - just wish Mr.Z would prove his worth by stepping out of his comfort zone. The horror schtick is tired.
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I'm in.
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Been coming here since this site was first online, but I call 'em like I see 'em. The entire premise for this movie looks absolutely lame. Sorry if you disagree. You're entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine. Well hey, I guess it gives the goths a reason to go to the movies, eh?
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...someone would shatter both his hands with a mallet and stab out both his eyes with an ice-pick. And then someone else wrote and directed them.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST
That's looked awful, just looked like an extended version of one of his videos
by Wcwlkr
That just looked flatout bad.
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Totally cool to have an opinion, I'm not knocking that. But to single this out as being a "stupid ass trailer" and asking "who the fuck watches this crap?" strikes me as very odd. The imagery in this teaser/trailer is far and away better than a lot of trailers for other horror movies that I've seen, particularly on this site. So to ask "who watches this crap?" seems strange bc this entire site is made up of people who would watch this kind of "crap", a horror film with strong imagery and visual ties and cues from previous horror films made by other horror masters. That kind of reaction makes it sound like you've never been here before.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST
I like Zombie as Director – but his writing is highly suspect
by I_Snake_Plissken
I was quite surprised by The Devil’s Rejects – very well made and a nice harsh edge that evoked the grindhouse feeling (better than anything Rodriguez or Tarantino have played around with). And, the first half of his Halloween film was quite interesting – he also managed to make Myers menacing in a few scenes, something that none of the sequels have been able to accomplish for a long time. I would really like to see him paired with a strong script that’s not his own (and does not include hillbillies) and he needs to ditch his wife. She’s fun to look at but pretty much sucks as an actress.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST
beezbo, you're forgiven for not knowing this because they're obviously trying to keep it hush-hush, but
by spacehog
this is actually a gritty remake of ''Hocus Pocus.'' Looks better than I imagined it would; not sure yet how having a DJ as the lead rather than several kids will impact the overall storyline, but as domi'sinnerchild pointed out it looks like some of the humor will still be there. A bunch of witches inventing basketball! That's some good slapstick.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST
Rob Zombie peaked (in movies) with his contribution to Beavis and Butthead
by MoneyGrabSequel
that is all
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I wasn't surprised by anything in this trailer. Typical Rob Zombie. In only a few films, I think this guy has become Tim Burton. You may like what he does, but you can predict him at every turn. He's never going to do anything different. I agree with Kidd about Devil's Rejects.
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When I saw this in Toronto I left a little disoriented and not entirely unsatisfied. If you can imagine what Zombie's take on a Giallo horror film would be like, you'd be pretty close. The Q&A ruined it a little for me though - he didn't seem to have (or at least offer) any insight into what he was doing beyond 'I did this because I thought it'd be cool'. To me, Zombie not understanding what he was referencing or why rubbed me the wrong way a bit because it made the good parts of the film seem like a happy accident more than anything else.
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Can't wait. I'm a big fan of this guy. While there have been missteps in his career, he's always interesting. This looks no different.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST
The first 15 minutes of Halloween II, are maybe pound for pound the best Halloween movie ever.
by JediRob
How do you make Michael Myers scarier, put him in the goddamn rain.
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I have never liked anything Rob Zombie has made as of yet. This looks like a film from a completely different filmmaker who is paying homage to Polanski, Fellini, Jodorowsky and Kenneth Anger. I've heard mixed reviews thus far but at least he's grown as a filmmaker slightly. The film should be visually impressive regardless of the context. All that said, it's a Rob Zombie film so it probably will suck.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST
but the rest of his first film really falls apart in the second half
by IAmLegolas
much like his solo albums ... HEY-OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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None of his work has impressed or entertained me in any way. Not even his "haunt" at Universal's HHN. Anybody who spends money on his wares is a fool.
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Fuck Rob Zombie.
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I was a fan of House of 1000 Corpses because I thought it was a good ode to horror. Devil's Rejects was okay. Hated the Halloween movies. This looks interesting. It kind of looks like it has elements of House of the Devil, Suspiria, and a bunch of the hammer horror films like Witchfinder General or To The Devil a Daughter.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 12:17 p.m. CST
I think I'm the only person who both posts on the internet and liked Zombie's Halloween
by Stephen
And I'm a huge Carpenter fan too. Funny.
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of one of his albums back in the day??
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From the looks of it Zombie believes so
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Its zombie trying his best at doing a kuberick film.
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And I'm not paying for them, let alone watching them.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 12:58 p.m. CST
Wasn't there a "suggest Zombie's next film" contest a while back? I should have won...
by Darth Macchio
And, if so, why didn't I win when I suggested the best thing he could possibly ever remake? (sure, originals are nice but this is a perfect fit for Zombie) The answer is crystal clear...the movie Zombie was born to remake and direct...even the great Sid Haig has a role ready made for him... And given how he puts his wife in every flick, there's a great role for her too...and, apparent from the views of many on AICN, likely giving her character a welcomed "offing" in a cinematically awesome way... wait for it... 1977's THE CAR Yep, that's the one..with James Brollin, Ronnie Cox, RG Armstrong, Kathlyn Loyd, et al... Perfect movie for Zombie on almost every level. So perfect that he'd have to work hard to screw it up (hint: don't give us any of the Car's, or the driver's, origins...don't do anything more than they did in the original on that level and it will work). Sid Haig plays the Armstrong role (the obnoxious redneck dude with the big mouth and the dynamite). Haig would own the role completely. Sherry Moon-Zombie plays the Kathlyn Loyd role (with the brilliant "through the house" scene and it's wonderful build-up...still love those lights coming up the road in the dark from way down the highway). Get William Forsthye to do the Ronnie Cox role or maybe the main sheriff (played by John Marley in the original). Then get some 'haven't seen in a while' but still great actor to play Brollin's role...I'm thinking Michael Biehn or Michael Madsen (in non-psycho mode), maybe a Nathon Fillion or someone similar. Hire a real actual Native American to play Sheriff Denson (originally played by Eddie Little Sky), Graham Greene is probably available and would be perfectly cast in the role. Maybe a bit too old. Get a capable crew (including actors) and get everybody to treat it correctly (seriously but not too seriously) and have Zombie bring his traditional approach/context that we've already seen is workable for a film like this...and it could be golden. Like Carnahan's 'A-Team'; a remake of a corny tv show that was far more fun and entertaining then likely anyone could have ever expected or hoped for...Carnahan was a perfect match and it worked like a charm. That's how I see a remake of The Car and Zombie in the director seat. It's almost too perfect a fit to not work.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST
We shot our movie in Salem Church hall, Leeds On The Shoulders Of Giants. Does this count?
by Pat Grant
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I said, Rubbish!
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when will that happen why hasnt it already huh? huh?
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Say what you like about him, but the man has an eye for interesting visuals.
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I like Rob Zombie movies (never saw Halloween II because it was pretty much UNIVERSALLY hated, but I like the first one okay), and this looks neat. I was in as soon as I saw the Black Metal guy witht the broadsword. Maybe that's it, maybe you have to like metal.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST
America never burned witches; they were all hung. I know this is just a film, which I'm planning to see, I'm just saying...
by Prague23
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it is my favourite Rob Zombie movie after 'The Devils Rejects', but sadly many people just didn't get it. He really made 'H2' his own. I would watch his vision of Michael Myers over Carpenter's anyday. Just my preference.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST
the way to watch is Theatrical cut of Halloween and Directors cut of H2
by JackSlater4
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Oct. 4, 2012, 4:46 p.m. CST
I do give Zombie that "The Haunted World of El Superbeasto" is fcking hysterical
by IAmLegolas
honestly! Am looking forward to "Lords of Salem", I'm a bigger fan of atmosphere and supernatural than showing people getting dismembered and gore.
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I seriously wondered if it was meant to be comedy as I watched this trailer. Is this Zombie desperately trying to gain some sort of sheen of filmmaking legitimacy? His Halloween "movies" are embarrassingly bad; he tried to deviate with that sequel to such a degree it left any vestige of the original in the bin; now he's clearly borrowing from Kubrick? Guffaw-inducing. Just over-the-top bad.
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"Lords" implies warlocks, not witches.
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Another film with poor acting and every other word is FUCK! Meh, no thanks. Even if Sheri is totally nude in it, I won't pay to see it. Sorry, Rob. I love your early music, but your films have disappointed me over and over so far. Especially Halloween. Part II is absolute shit. The Michael Myers mythos was shit on from every direction. Not cool.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST
You would think SATAN has other things on his plate than to pay attention to this noobs...
by frank
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Oct. 4, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST
Looking forward to "Lords". I really wish Rob Zombie would make an "ALICE COOPER" movie someday
by TheJudger
An autobiography film much like "Ray" and Walk The Line". It could start off with Alice Cooper being cremated after his worldly death at some point in time in the unknown future. As the body burns and his soul escapes to glory- We hear Alice narrate his own life, and back we go to his birth and forward from that point into his childhood, and thus begins all the truths and myths making lore into this mans life and how Vincent Furnier became Alice Cooper. Going through all the ups and downs. His preacher father, his brush with death on the indian reserve in arizona with the cow and the stick, the pillow the doughnut and the toilet paper rolls. The Earwigs/Beatles gag in high school, the hair issue, The Nazz The Spiders, Am Radio plays his first song, The Alice Cooper Band, the trip to Cali at the tail end of the Peace Love Era in order to find gigs and a record deal. The Cheetah, the Shep, the Zapp, the Whiskey, the head only service rule he adopted back then to stay disease free (and a lot of heads were to be had, lol) Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Price, Groucho, and most definitely The "Pretty Ballerina" "Bride of the Monster" Sherly Cooper. Then Alice's big fall. The choice to change, the Inside, Brian 'Renfield' Nelson, the 80's, and just... This film it must happen. I have read "Me, Alice" I cant wait to read "Golf Monster". I listen to Alice's music everyday (mostly when lifting weights) I own all of his albums. I got into his music big like I'm now- shortly after a caustic breakup with an ex girlfriend. I absolutely believe his music saved my life. Had I not had those tunes, That outlet, that really seemed to understand my mentalities. I probably wouldn't be alive today. As I started to learn more about Alice- As much as the man is willing to share about his life to his fans. I really believe this is the movie Rob was born to make. I have no doubt the audience for it is there, even if they are not sure going in for the sake of curiosity and intrigue. I cant think of anyone better suited to make it than Rob Zombie. They are both very close friends. I hope it happens this way. If Rob ever stood a chance to get a goldenboy, it's through something like this.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 9:38 p.m. CST
But then again SATAN made Jersey Shore popular,so I guess Im the noob...
by frank
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Oct. 4, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
and Halloween 2 is a misunderstood Gem in the Crown of Horror
by TheJudger
I love that movie as much as I love the 1978 original. Rob quit listening to the fans and made a completely original film using the same characters in a different sandbox. Which is exactly what more remakes should do. Strolling down memory lane with a different driver behind the wheel- Seeing the same things we already saw before. It can be a bit off putting or boring. Come with something new and original or don't come at all. When you people say you don't see any "film maker growth" in this man. I feel like your talking shit. Honestly. Halloween got real lame before Rob picked it up and fucked around with it. The first half of the first remake is great, but then it goes back to being the same thing Carpenter already told. I felt cheated somewhat by the second half- but not completely. I love the chase from the basement to the drained pool, the 2X4 vs ceiling scene and then the out the window over the porch gunshot to the head stuff. Halloween 2.. That was all Rob, and the theatrical cut was a wild fucking ride. I love that people are either totally into it or not at all. Consider me in
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Oct. 4, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST
His Halloween 2 just shoulda kept going instead of making the first half all a dream...
by sonnyfern
Just a balls to the walls Myers trying to kill our main girl horror flick. Woulda been great. This looks weird.
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Oct. 4, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST
His Halloween 2 just shoulda kept going instead of making the first half all a dream...
by sonnyfern
Just a balls to the walls Myers trying to kill our main girl horror flick. Woulda been great. This looks weird.
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It is so wildly underrated and one of my favorites. It catches so much unfair shit when it really did what a remake should do; provide a new and interesting take on something. It's brutal, disturbing and takes the series someplace new for the first time since Silver Shamrock. He made Myers a homeless nomad and Dr Loomis into a total asshole. Laurie is sympathetic, dealing with PTSD and drugged out. Michael has batshit hallucinations of his mom and a bizarre chamber of pumpkin people. He even ducked using the Carpenter "theme" until the credits rolled. Unlike the maligned first remake, II is wholly Zombie doing what he wants to do. And when that happens, it's a good time.
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I'm a really big fan of Carpenter's Halloween. I get that Zombie was trying to make it his own, but it's not. Halloween II...no idea what happened there. Didn't make a lot of sense, but it looked like he was saying "Fuck it, I'm done with this series". Just a preference.
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He is, at least in my mind, a man with an original vision. I loved his take on the "Halloween" series; they were brutal and honest, and made you feel the looming presence of a 7 something foot tall psychopath in the guise of Tyler Mane. This latest opus looks a bit unfathomable, but it has all the relish of Zombie's sensibilties written all over it. But please - don't herald the fact that this is produced by the makers of such intollerable shite as "Paranormal Activity" and "Insidious". I mean, really. They seem to be selling all horror films lately on the back of these two non-entities.
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Oct. 5, 2012, 2:01 a.m. CST
This will either be the new Wickerman or...
by chronicallydepressedlemming
an awful pile of shit. There is no middle ground. Calling it now.
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Oct. 5, 2012, 7:45 a.m. CST
On a pure visual level (albeit referential) that looks damn good (But I'm a sucker for Argento)
by KillaKane
I don't really mind Rob's stuff; he's a total fanboy, great illustrator with an evident visual flair - it's just his approach to structure, story and characterisation that needs honing. Naysayers can bitch all they like, but his movies must be turning a profit - there's no way he'd still be shooting these kind of esoteric Horrors. Personally I do like the whole 'Devil Rides Out' diabolism vibe; I'll be checking this out on release, there's a lot of Argento's Susperia and Inferno influence in there,not to mention good ol' Lucy Fulci.
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This reminds me of the second half to House of 100 Corpses and I thought the second half was boring ass shit.
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Having Sheri Moon star in every one of his movies is about as predictable and boring as Johnny Depp being in a Burton movie. And Zombie only made a small handful of films...
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Because Satanists are SO 80s Metal, man.... Blah...Satanic ritual orgies...Whatever.
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You said that something was "SO 80s Metal", and your name is Doom Master... but it appears that you meant that as a BAD thing? Are you using your older brother's screenname?
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