Animation and Anime
Happy 30th Anniversary to "Super Dimension Fortress Macross"
1982's Super Dimension Fortress Macross
2012 opening remake
1984's Macross: Do You Remember Love?
1992's Macross II - legally watch it online
1994's Macross Plus - legally streaming online
1994's Macross 7
2002's Macross Zero
2008's Macross Frontier
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Oct. 3, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST
This blew my 12 year old mind! First Anime Exposure!
Oct. 3, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST
Man, I miss my childhood.
Oct. 3, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST
Hurray! Brings back fond memories of mail order goodness through Starlog's classified for the *Galactic Trade Commission*!
Oct. 3, 2012, 8:55 p.m. CST
by Jack Black
and yes it blew the mind of this kid too, when he saw it for the first time.
Oct. 3, 2012, 8:56 p.m. CST
Oct. 3, 2012, 9 p.m. CST
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:07 p.m. CST
Not a fan of the Japanese cartoon theme song. The America Robotech theme makes Macross seem more EPIC.
by Mark Williams
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST
Harmony Gold can suck my balls. Thanks, assholes! Love that I've never been able to get a good domestic release of SDSFM.
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST
by Mad Barchetta
The thing that always stuck with me about Robotech/Macross was that it was the first animated series that I thought respected me, as a viewer and a kid, enough to actually let me experience a significant character dying. Not from old age or illness, but in battle and unexpectedly. Never saw that before and always felt a bit cheated, disrespected by other shows. Star Blazers would have been the show that did it first, but adults at the time felt the need to edit that out for American audiences. For that alone, Robotech always holds a special place for me. Plus the animation and the awesome mecha were balls-to-the-wall cool to your average 12-year-old.
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST
by Dan Halen
for someone who was into it long ago but fell out? What classic anime should I see? Give me a primer.
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
...then came Robotech.
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
@playkins: Japanese Blu-rays are region A (or region free) and usually have English subs. Super-pricey, though: http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B006QRCBG2/
If anyone's looking for the complete Americanized ROBOTECH (Macross/Southern Cross/Mospeada), the 17-disc A&E release it's around $60 new on eBay.
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST
Exactly. Plus, call me a simpleton, but I prefer dubbed anime.
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:45 p.m. CST
GALACTIC TRADE COMMISSION out of Overland Park, KS was my baptismal for anime collectibles of all kinds!!!
I took all my allowance money I had saved along with my birthday money and Christmas money I got from relatives and ordered a ton of Imai Valkyries and their SDF-1 back in the middle eighties. I ordered from that guy, can't remember his name, several times and got a bunch of kits that I still have today--Gundam and SF3D as well. God that catalog of he put out was like the Bible for me. So many great memories. Thank you justmyluck! MACROSS FOREVER!!!
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
The franchise may have strayed over the years from its origins, but it's still one of the best and most influential shows in anime history. And there is no better time to be a Macross fan; the various Macross shows, movies, and their related merchandise are just a click away--no matter where you live.
Oct. 3, 2012, 9:51 p.m. CST
by Bill C.
Perhaps it was one of those perfect storm moments for an impressionable teenager, but hearing her beautiful voice in a cartoon involving giant robots where a major plot point was the near-total annihilation of mankind by an alien race...damn. Macross (in both original and domestic varieties, let alone THE MOVIE!) was my gateway drug into anime AND anime music, and I both bless and blame Mari and Lynn Minmay for that.
Oct. 3, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
by Sam Clegg
Other than Macross the TV series or Robotech, the other Macross shows have largely been unavailable here in the U.S. Oh, Macross Plus is still around, but that is it. Macross II was ok, but Plus, Zero and Frontier were great shows, plus the other movies as well. I hope that most people get to see them soon!
Oct. 3, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
I know it will probably not please the hardcore Robotech/Macross fans out there, but I still want to see the live action Robotech movie adaptation become reality. Sure Hollywood will probably mess up some of the canon or whatnot, but it would be great to see this kind of stuff done up with state of the art effects and deafening movie theater sound, all up on the big screen.
Oct. 3, 2012, 10:31 p.m. CST
I'll always ALWAYS love Robotech over Macross. Macek may have created a stitched together masterpiece, but it was a masterpiece all that same. That said, as much as I LOVE Robotech, there's something about the tone and the deep horns of the original Macross opening that is POWERFUL. Damn I miss that type of anime... Space Opera was awesome back then.
Oct. 3, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST
The first and only cartoon that my Dad ever sat down to watch with me every day. He tuned out when it got to the one with the tanks, but hey, didn't we all? And the deaths WERE a kick in the nuts: Ben, Roy Fokker, hell the entire bridge of the SDF-1. Great show, both versions.
Oct. 3, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
by John Maddening
1) There's so much repeating of the previous episode on each new episode that the full MACROSS story could be done in about 24 episodes vs the 36 episodes that were actually broadcast. 2) Lisa Hayes = Rebecca Howe
Oct. 3, 2012, 11:59 p.m. CST
Listen to my song! PUH-RANNET DANCE!!!!
Oct. 4, 2012, 12:50 a.m. CST
Yeah, I'm with you on the middle chapter of Robotech. Max's kid Dana was so damn annoying, but the way Macek integrated the story of the source of Protoculture with the Robotech Masters was necessary and pretty ingenious. Man I wish Cyclones were real.
Oct. 4, 2012, 12:52 a.m. CST
by Chief Joseph
Oct. 4, 2012, 1:29 a.m. CST
by Cadillac Jones
First death of a beloved character, first romantic relationship and love triangle, first bad guys who started to empathize with towards the end. Man. That 2012 remake intro also blew my mind! Happy Anniversary Macross! Here's 30 more years and a new fanbase that discovers it!
Oct. 4, 2012, 2:38 a.m. CST
Macross is an all time classic.
Oct. 4, 2012, 3:07 a.m. CST
by Urge to Kill
It's crap and to top it off Shoji Kawamori has even said it's not canon.
Oct. 4, 2012, 3:50 a.m. CST
There isn't an animation studio left in the world that has the balls to animate mecha like this without going CG. Just look at that remade opening sequence. CG everywhere. I get that it's a bit easier, but it's not nearly as impressive. I have to agree, the Robotech score was a bit cooler than the Macross soundtrack. It felt a bit more military. The story butchering and americanized censorship was a bit lame, but only once you saw the original. It was still better than anything else on TV in my area. I grew up in Quebec, France was totaly gay for anime in the 80s and we got a good percentage of our french TV from them. I grew up watching dozens of anime in french, and it all put most american cartoons to shame, except maybe the WB and Disney stuff, and even those were rarely challenging for a kid. Seeing Roy and them Ben die within 2-3 episodes was a turning point for me. Characters can die. Actions had consequences. It wasn't just about spaceships going pew pew. The episode where Rick tries to write a letter to Ben's parents telling them their son had died in combat was such a contrast to seeing people shoot at each other endlessly without a single casualty in "traditional" kiddy cartoons. Robotech was a defining part of my childhood.
Oct. 4, 2012, 4:01 a.m. CST
Star Wars when I was 4... Battlestar Galactica a few years later Robotech at 12... best... childhood... ever
Oct. 4, 2012, 4:03 a.m. CST
looks great but the music doesn't do it for me. I much prefer the score used in the American Robotech 80s cartoon.
Oct. 4, 2012, 5:16 a.m. CST
Oct. 4, 2012, 5:45 a.m. CST
It's odd watching the evolution of both art styles and content. The progress into more computer animation has really hurt anime for me, the whole attitude in the industry seems to have shifted aswell. Very rarely is it about a story with consequences, it's more about cute girls and fanservice. Don't get me wrong, theres plenty of room for that, but it's all style and no substance. Macross Plus dealt with some real dark stuff and there was real weight behind the animation, everything looked grounded and real. Think the move to cgi has taken the edge off, maybe it's just the more colourful simplistic styles that are used now. Even zero had a reasonable balance and dealt with some adult themes, frontier never grabbed me, looked like vandread. Maybe it's just me getting older :(
Thank you Scott, you made my day. This was the first site I hit over breakfast! I'm a 1000% Macross Otaku. Ask the $400 worth of Valkyries guarding my computer desk. I'm in a love triangle with the original SDF Macross and Macross Frontier! HAPPY 30th! The end of the world could come after a Macross movie on par with Wachowskis' Speed Racer.
Oct. 4, 2012, 7:09 a.m. CST
by Mad Barchetta
Here are suggestions: For Classic: Gatchaman/Battle of the Planets (avoid the later re-makes of this) - although this didn't hold up as well for my adult mind and I like to remember it; Space Battleship Yamato/Star Blazers - great story but don't listen too hard to some of the "science" that gets discussed; Robotech, obviously. More recent: Ghost in the Shell (movies AND series); Fullmetal Alchemist (both series were great - if you want to watch both, see the original first; if you see only one, see Brotherhood.); Cowboy Bebop; Akira; pretty much anything Miyazaki; Neon Genesis Evangelion. I think you should enjoy all of these. I miss anything, folks?
Oct. 4, 2012, 7:25 a.m. CST
You haven't seen it in 25 years, and/or you've never watched the original SDF Macross. Your nostalgia clouds your judgement.
Oct. 4, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST
Still not sure why a space battleship would really need to turn into a giant robot, but whatever.
Oct. 4, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST
Galactic Trade Commission was (well, he was) my only outlet for anime kits from about 1984, and I still have a few of those amazing typed-up catalogs. I always wanted to scan them for posterity, so here's an early one (front order page missing of course): http://www.mediafire.com/view/?bocj4nqb8ky2215 I have another, massive, 24-page one from 1986, when he must have expanded in a big way. I should try and scan that one also, if I get around to it. GTC truly had everything and sucked up a lot of odd job money in high school. Ordering from them was like waiting forever and you usually received substitute items when he went out of stock, but finally opening those *mystery* boxes was always heaven! I think I saw GTC as a seller on eBay a few years back, selling pins and patches, so he was definitely in the biz for the long term.
Oct. 4, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST
Oct. 4, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST
They transformed into giant robots because through investigating the originally crashed Macross, they discovered the Zentradi were giants and this was supposed to be their way of dealing with that.
Oct. 4, 2012, 11:56 a.m. CST
Oooohhh the Space Battleship.... uh... cause it looked cool!!!
Oct. 4, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST
by Royston Lodge
So say we all.
Oct. 4, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST
Oct. 4, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST
not just the intro but all the 80's tunes during the episodes. The books were good reads to- I loved how the 1st one expanded on the initial human exploration of the SDF-1. And the Zor comics were awesome also. It's a shame they can't get anything good going again (not a fan of Shadow Chronicles)
Oct. 4, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
Nice list! Some of those are my all-time favorites. I would add the series Planetes. Good story and an excellent, satisfying ending. Also, any movie by the recently departed Satoshi Kon. Try Millennium Actress or Tokyo Godfathers. And another great director, Makoto Shinkai, should not be missed. I have literally wept at each of his movies. Lets keep the suggestions coming! =)
Oct. 4, 2012, 11:06 p.m. CST
Forget what you know, or think you know. Check out the Macross franchise.
Oct. 5, 2012, 7:55 a.m. CST
by Leto III
Haven't watched this in years, but just found out about this. Evidently, he's credited as "Lee Stone" in the cast, but according to IMDB, it is indeed none other than The One Who Knocks™ as the lead in this animé.
Oct. 5, 2012, 7:57 a.m. CST
by Leto III
...Please. ROBOTECH is surpassingly more sophisticated as a piece of storytelling than the original SDF MACROSS television series. The changes made to the Western adaptation were only improvements.
Oct. 10, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST
Sweet memories. used to set my alarmclock and sneak downstairs on sunday for this series on tv. Has it been that long? (Am I getting that old?????)
Oct. 10, 2012, 6:03 p.m. CST
I think this was the show that really opened the minds of many of showing how an animated show could be so engrossing.
Oct. 11, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST
Someone please replace the music with the Robotech theme song! : P Macross Plus was balls to the wall awesome! Macross Zero was also amazing! If you're going to CG your mecha, then that's how you do it! Didn't like Macross II. Macross Frontier was so-so... Never watched the rest. Somebody give me a 2012 MoSpeeda Anniversary Opening.
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