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Who May Wind Up Directing DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES??

Published at: Sept. 26, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST by The Kidd

The Kidd here...

So there have been rumblings for a little while that Rupert Wyatt wouldn't be back in the director's chair for the sequel to RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES entitled DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES. Apparently the rush to 20th Century Fox's announced May 23, 2014 release date for the follow-up was cause for concern for Wyatt, in that he didn't think he'd be able to make the film he'd like to make with a deadline already staring him in the face, similar to what Gary Ross worried about before he bolted THE HUNGER GAMES series. 

There's been no official word on his departure from the rebooted APES franchise, but Fox looks to be already looking at candidates to take his place in the event that he's definitely out, which appears more and more likely moving forward.

According to Deadline, Fox has assembled a short list of directors that are in the discussion to helm ROTPOTA, and, although Wyatt's departure would be a great loss for how incredible a film he made that really had no business being that good, there may be a perfect substitute lying in wait. 

Matt Reeves (CLOVERFIELD and LET ME IN) sits as the potential frontrunner for good reason, with Juan Carlos Fresnadillo (28 WEEKS LATER), J. Blakeson (THE DISAPPEARANCE OF ALICE CREED), Jeff Nichols (TAKE SHELTER, MUD), Juane Antonio Bayona (THE IMPOSSIBLE, THE ORPHANAGE) also in the conversation. Guillermo Del Toro and Rian Johnson are on the wish list, too, as they should be, but there's no indication that either of them are real possibilities at this point. 

There's a lot of experience here mixing strong character work with some heavy effects, but Reeves looks like the right choice to me. His work on LET ME IN seals the deal for me, as he managed to tackle material that had already been done well before by others and made it his own. Plus, with him seemingly out of THE TWILIGHT ZONE film that's been lingering for awhile over at Warner Bros., he's got the time in his schedule to devote to APES. 

Fresnadillo most likely has too much on his plate to take on something this big, with HIGHLANDER next on tap for him. I'd love to see Jeff Nichols get a shot at something bigger based solely on what he did with TAKE SHELTER, which, for me, was the best film that year... but this looks like Reeves' job to have if he wants it. 

 

-Billy Donnelly

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  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Matt Reeves please

    by FilmBuf82

    I hope this is why he left Twilight Zone.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Matt Reeves would be awesome

    by Jackson

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Dawn of the Apes if done right could be awesome/even scary

    by Andrew Coleman

    Imagine a world where humans get so sick we can barely defend ourselves from Apes who pull us from our homes etc. That is pretty bad ass to think about. What I liked about Rise of the Planet of the Apes... SPOILERS(I guess).... Is that at the end when they revolt you still have the sense that they are completely outmatched. Sure they surprise the police at first but once they organized it became clear the apes would be slaughtered. I dug that concept. So if everyone is dying from disease... It would be easy for them to take over... Love it. Can't wait for this movie actually.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Isn't

    by jimmy_009

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST

    They got their titles mixed up...

    by jimmy_009

    The first movie -- the very beginnings of the apes -- should have been 'Dawn of', and the uprising should have been 'Rise of'. Dawn of makes it sound like a prequel of some kind.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Does it matter who the director is?

    by paul burnett

    If the original director felt Fox weren't giving him enough time, and he's been in the Apes universe for a few years now, what chance does any new director have coming into this franchise cold? Hope Fox don't fuck this up just because they want a quick pay day. The first film proved that they could be sitting on a gold mine...if the give care and attention a film about an ape revolution needs...

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    jackslater4: the hyoid bone is a scientific roadblock for sure...

    by Monnie Knapp

    but most people don't know what a hyoid bone is, and don't care if their summer blockbuster is scientifically accurate. There really is no way to "mutate" a chimp to create a hyoid bone immediately; punctuated equilibrium could theoretically accomplish this, but that's quite a leap. Caesar already spoke in the first film, so I wouldn't expect a really deep reasoning behind the "evolution" of ape speech.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST

    If these stories are true, I appreciate these directors...

    by D.Vader

    Trying to say "Fuck YOU" to studios that put the cart before the horse and demand a release date before a script and a completed film. Unfortunately, I think these protests are futile; they're not going to stop the machine from working. Studios will just hire any director they can to get the movie made.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST

    In reality, though, the whole thing may be about money

    by D.Vader

    I think Gary Ross wanted more money for the sequel and the studio balked, so they went with someone else and the story about a rushed release date was fabricated. This could be the same case with Wyatt. Nothing a studio likes less, I bet, than a director who makes a VERY successful movie and tries to use that as leverage for more money and more creative freedom with the next installment. Fucking suits.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    The director of 28 Weeks Later doesn't have good character work

    by D.Vader

    Based on 28 Weeks Later, he doesn't give a shit about his characters. Please, not him.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST

    d.vader

    by paul burnett

    Spot on, then a year and a half later you end up with a bunch of Fox executives sitting in a room scratching their heads wondering why a possible multi film franchise, tv series and other assorted spin offs went up in smoke!!

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST

    JackSlater4 and The_Gmork: they don't really need to do any of that

    by Monroville

    The first movie already established that the virus mutates the simians, so who is to say that part of the mutation process is speeding up their evolution by bringing them closer to homo sapiens, due to the 1% difference in DNA (which the virus corrects/completes)? People can just assume that the virus the apes were exposed to did all of the magical science-fiction stuff to allow them to permanently walk on their hind legs, speak like humans and develop a greater degree of intelligence. On the other hand, the virus DEvolves those humans who survive, back to a primitive caveman like state. I see the sequel essentially being maybe a flip-side to the original PLANET OF THE APES (the apes perspective of the 3 astronauts who return from the failed Mars mission).

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Or even Brett Ratner, Creepy

    by D.Vader

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST

    icanthavethat

    by D.Vader

    Time will tell, but I really hope one of these rushed franchises REALLY explodes in their faces one day. I mean, Hunger Games 2 was given a release date before a script had been written. That's ridiculous.

  • ............I'm in...........

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST

    TEA TIME OF THE PLANET OF THE APES

    by albert comin

    The apes became civilized, polite and sexually repressed.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Just get the Community guys or the Crank guys.

    by SergeantStedenko

    They work cheap.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    last one wasn't even that good

    by Rupee88

    I mean it wasn't good at all...not a terrrible movie but kind of a lame one.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Well that fucking sucks

    by Transhuman

    I didn't even look at the list of directors. Rise of the Planet of the Apes was so surprisingly good, I was really hoping they'd be smart and keep things going. Maybe they'll get a good director (same writers???) but that just gave my excitement for the follow-up a major hit. Damn.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    rupee, I asume you're talking about Burton's Apes.

    by SergeantStedenko

    Either that or you're just trolling.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Blakeson would be fantastic

    by misterk360

    His "The Disappearance of Alicia Creed ", is probably the best debut film film 've seen from a first time writer/director since QT made "Reservoir Dogs". Also, with the short pre production phases to the Apes sequel, it would be be good if the director had some writing chops as well (which Blakeson certainly has).

  • A lot of behaviors displayed by the apes can be accomplished through mimicry and are perfectly possible for apes in their current physical state--add the "evolved" intelligence, and this all works fine. They shouldn't be able to just master bipedalism, as their bodies are not constructed for such things, but we can reasonably accept this little cheat, as it looks like it makes sense. The hyoid bone creates a special problem though, as I don't see a virus growing a bone in the ape's throats necessary to accomplish speech. No matter how you try to justify this through evolutionary theory, you will come up empty--except through punctuated equilibrium, which allows a species to "leap forward" along the evolutionary chain during times of particular stress. Even this--theoretical--process would most likely not lead to the forming of a hyoid bone, as that's some pretty complex shit. Instead of entering this scientific quagmire, they will definitely go with, "the virus evolved them, and now they speak." While this is perfectly acceptable--a fictional work need not be scientifically accurate--it doesn't really make sense for those who choose to be sticklers about such things.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST

    RotPotA was kind of a fluke. It was better than it had a right to be.

    by SergeantStedenko

    I can't imagine a sequel being able to even come close to matching its success even with the original director. I smell an Iron Man 2 here.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    "red distended anus"..Harrys new nickname!!

    by paul burnett

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Matt Reeves With a Tripod

    by WriteFromLeft

    As long as Zanuck forces him to use a tripod so people don't puke their guts out from motion sickness.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    creepythinman: are you related to Scary German Guy?

    by Monnie Knapp

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    There was nothing Creepy said here that was ban-worthy

    by D.Vader

    Nothing said on this page, at least. If he was banned for what he said here, then whoever did it really is a thin-skinned prick. If he was banned for something elsewhere, well I can't vouch for that.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Oh did you say that here?

    by D.Vader

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Btw, Cybergeddon looks awesome!

    by SergeantStedenko

    Thanks for the link Harry!

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Maybe it was Yoko who made the financial faux pas that put AICN in the red.

    by SergeantStedenko

    How awesome would that be. For Harry, that is. He'd have her by the short hairs and she'd never be able to leave him because of the guilt. That said, the safe bet is still Father Geek.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Only Caesar could speak...

    by Hairy Nutsack

    And I think that can be conveniently explained away as him being a second generation of ape mutant and therefore more evolved. Him receiving the drug while inside the womb could have radically altered his physical development.<p> <p> Of course this idea only works if they don't have every ape speaking in the next movie, which I suspect they will.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    NOT MAT REEVES! He deserves better than leftovers!

    by Fawst

    Cloverfield and Let Me In are both great movies (to me, save your bitching). Reeves deserves to get "one for him" at this point. Granted, I suppose Let Me In was "one for him," but not completely. I'd like to see what he can do with his own material.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    sergeantstedenko, AICN GETS IN THE WAY OF HARRY'S TWINKIE FUNDING!!!FACT!!!

    by creepythinman-returns

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Matt Reeves for Sure

    by Wyatt Elling

    He's elevated his two notable features thus far. Cloverfield had a lame script, but the movie ended up surprisingly effective. Let Me In I thought was actually better than the (overrated) original. He made the movie work emotionally and fixed some of the weird problems in the original (acid face, for instance). Rise of the Planet of the Apes got a lot of credit for not being terrible, but in actuality it's incredibly uneven. Reeves could take that as a basis and knock it out of the park. But then again, I thought DJ Caruso was extremely promising after his first few features, and look what happened to him . . .

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    So, if someone gets banned, they just reregister with a new nick name?

    by paul burnett

    I'm genuinly ignorant of what goes on, but creepy makes me laugh. And hey kids, isn't laughter a wonderful thing? As for these financial trouble rumours that are bubbling around the tbs, whats the story? Has someone ran off with the emergency cheetos fund or something? As for the new Apes film, gonna be tricky keeping them as the good guys if humanity is dieing from the plague and the monkeys are reaping the rewards.. dieing?dying?dyeing?diing??...becoming unwell.

  • Caesar's in utero mutation could certainly allow him to develop a hyoid bone. You are most likely correct that more apes will be speaking in the next film. Hm, they could have only second generation apes speaking... that would be interesting--but again, I think we're delving way too deep on this one, no one at Fox gives a shit about the scientific legitimacy of this film, nor should they.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST

    ....May 23, 2014 is a "rush" job? WTF?

    by Chris

    I can see May 23, 2013 being rushed...but 2014?! That just picky.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    THE DISAPPEARANCE OF ALICE CREED

    by palewook

    interesting film. dont know how i feel about him doing an apes film, but i'll see it.

  • Because FatShitFuck spends soo much money on toys and food to stuff his Sarlacc pit and feed the hole where his soul should be, he doesn't upgrade his software which means that none of my proxies get deleted and eventually the ban dissapears and I can post under them again. If I wait long enough I can post under CreepyThinManLives again in a few days/weeks....

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    I know which director will be picked

    by daggor

    The director that will do what Fox says and deliver the film as fast as Fox wants them to, under budget.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Just adapt Betrayal of the POTA. Easy money.

    by Larry_Sanders

    I love the mentality behind "Wow director guy, you did a great job and made us tons of money! But because you want to take the time and make sure you do an equally good job on the sequel, we're gonna have to let you go." And would someone please tell creepythinman to SHUT THE FUCK UP?

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    So lazy. So stupid. So boring.

    by Larry_Sanders

  • Oh, would you have egg on your face then!

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST

    larry_sanders: what is the Twilight series?

    by Monnie Knapp

    Zing!

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Juane Antonio Bayona is brilliant.

    by The Fuck

    See him to do another horror, I would digg very much!

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST

    How is May 2014 "Rushed". That is 20 months away...

    by Bruno

    Production on the original began in July of 2010 and the movie came out August 2011... The "Rushed" excuse is nonsense. He has MORE time now if anything. I think he got gassed up and thought he could get more money and FOX probably showed him the door. Because any other director can make a quality action film in less than 20 months.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    It's Harrys fault Creepy is not getting laid.I see what you did there.

    by JohnWayneWasGay

  • Sure, he can be a great big obnoxious jerk. But does everyone really want to see him go? He's a part of this crazy disfunctional family. I know he appears passionate about EVERYTHING, but you can see him get sincerely passionate when there is a film that he really cares about. He starts displaying actual geek knowledge about directors and themes. And he proves that he is truely one of us. Creepy, we love you, and we even love to hate you. Just go easy on the obituaries.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Dude you can't be getting laid,you too angry to be getting any.

    by JohnWayneWasGay

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST

    I want to see hot monkey sex this time around!!

    by BilboRing

    Fuck yeah!

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one that wasn't blown away by Rise/Apes?

    by Jay

    Look, what worked in the film worked very well. Caesar was a great character. But was everything else really all that special? I give props to the director for making it believable and having the story flow so well, but nothing really stood out beyond the mo-cap performance. This may sound like an odd comparison, but this praise reminds me of all the hype after Zombieland came out. A better than average film, but really didn't do anything new. And everyone bought into the director as the next great thing. It just feels like were hyping the mediocre.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST

    creepy, GoT has an excellent soundtrack

    by SergeantStedenko

    I'm in love with the opening credit theme song.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Matt Reeves would be a good choice...

    by Darkness

    He handled the visual effects very well in "Cloverfield" and "Let Me In" - and the dramatic aspects were evenly balanced amongst the visceral horror. Perfect candidate. Jeff Nichols would also be another worthy candidate: "Take Shelter" was a fantastic piece of filmmaking, and handled the prospect of the "End Of The World" from an interesting "ordinary man" angle. Put Michael Shannon in an ape costume - maybe 'Dr. Zaius' - and we are onto something special.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST

    I THOUGHT THE REMAKE WAS PRETTY WEAK ALL AROUND.

    by Mike Soiseth

    In the original, those Apes were to be feared. In this one, Ceaser, the 'totally realistic' (cough cough) CGI Ape pussifies his ape army. We all know what apes can do ala the news and that bridge scene should have been horrific-we should fear the apes and have reason to be afraid-after all they are gonna inherit the earth via war. Also, the original was a complete story, engaging, entrancing, entertaining, while this felt immature, contrived and abreviated. In short, I havent even bothered to watch it again for free via HBO or Showtime. It just is NOT compelling cinema and really lowered the bar for a re-make. Yes, its better than McBurtons atrocity, but then diareha is slighty more tolerable than throwing up.

  • It is the same mentality that gave us Alien 3, which really turned out better than it should have any right to, seeing as Fox basically shot the film in both feet multiple times throughout pre-production and principal photography. Didn't Sony do this kind of thing to Sam Raimi with Spiderman? He basically had to start work on the next one after they wrapped the previous film. I can't imagine these studios think that directors don't need some time off after making a big budget film. It's crazy.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Pornography of the Planet of the Apes

    by lv_426

    PT Anderson's ape opus, and his followup to The Master. Mark Wahlberg returns to reprise his roles as Dirk Diggler and the dude from Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes remake.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Sure, the movie comes out in 2014, but...

    by D.Vader

    Those of you saying it should be easy to make a movie in that timeframe are under the assumption that a good, workable script has already been written.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Just watched 'Rise' holy god what a forgettable blur

    by awepittance

    It makes Burton's poor planet of the apes remake even while suffering from horrible 'acting' by Whalberg look like a masterpiece of creativity in comparison.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST

    d.vader - apparently there is no script at this point

    by Collin Armstrong

    Just a really shitty outline that scared Wyatt away. Good for him - find something better. And for those people who keep saying 2014 is a long way off, it's not when you talk in terms of studio filmmaking - the development cycle for a typical studio tentpole is around four years.

  • It seems like one of those ideas that sounds cool on paper, but very very hard to execute properly on screen without being silly. Then again, Rupert Wyatt did a good job with a seemingly silly and far-fetched concept that drove Rise of the Planet of the Apes. I was surprised that the film actually worked, and worked well and was a solid entertaining science fiction film. Actually, I'd put ROTPOTA as the second or third best Apes film. The original from 1968 being the best still, and I do have a soft spot for the wacky sequel Beneath the Planet of the Apes. It is too bad Burton's remake of the original didn't work out better. I still love that basic premise of human astronauts crashing on a world where evolved apes are now the dominant species. Also, they never really did a really faithful adaptation of the original novel of The Planet of the Apes, where the apes had a society with cars, clothing, architecture, and technology closer to that of 20th and 21st Century humanity. I suppose if they had followed up with a direct sequel to Burton's remake, with Mark Wahlberg in the ape version of Washington D.C. then they might have covered some of that ground. Then again, an ape Washington D.C. is silly. They shouldn't have an exact replica of our capital, but just similar architecture and clothing but with a slightly different twist and various aesthetic differences that fit in with what an ape society might need or want to design. Anyways, another go at the type of story we saw in the original 1968 Planet of the Apes would be fun to see, probably after this Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Maybe call the third one Rule of the Planet of the Apes. Or how about Empire of the Planet of the Apes? I don't know, something like that seems to make sense. So after Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, we'd jump further ahead in time to an almost golden age of ape society. First though, we'd have a crew of human astronauts crash like in the original. Out in the desert or forest or mountains, somewhere exotic and remote. They look for civilization and when the come across the apes, instead of being on horseback the apes are in military jeeps and have some helicopters. The astronauts are taken back and when the apes see that they can talk, they are amazed. A group of ape aeronautics engineers attempt to gather info on the astronauts' space ship, as the apes are in the early stages of developing their own space program. This exchange of ideas doesn't last long, as the ape military research division decides to experiment on the brains of some of the human astronauts, causing permanent brain damage. Their goal is to find out how the humans have remained smart, and where they came from. This due to the ape government and military worrying about an enclave of smart humans that might pose a threat to ape society. The Taylor (Heston) type character then escapes before they start poking around inside his skull with pointy objects. During his escape from the ape military facility, he eventually stumbles into a massive underground bunker, and is shocked to see the Statue of Liberty inside surrounded by other human relics. This implies that the ape authorities have successfully convinced the ape populace that humans were always a lower and stupider species (the apes now keep the humans as slaves/pets/butlers/nannies, and some even serve as infantry cannon fodder in the military, as at this time the humans are able to learn very basic language skills). He gets out of the ape Area 51 and goes on the run, seeing all manner of ape society. This part of the film would basically be like a manhunt plot, with the ape authorities on his trail. Dodging some ape soldiers, he ducks inside a museum and stumbles upon a grand exhibit chronicling the life and works of the great Ceasar, who created the laws and customs and built the thriving society of the apes. Eventually he gets help from a female ape, the Zira type character of this version, who instead of being a scientist is a journalist. She has been trying to gather info on the strange spaceship that recently crashed, the whole event of which is turning into an ape equivalent of Roswell as the ape military is covering up all knowledge of the incident. If she can break this story and present it to the public, it would be the scoop of the century and would change the way apes think of humans in this age of ape dominance. So the third act goal is to get the human astronaut on live TV to show ape society that not all humans are lower animal like beings. The only problem with this is that this human has been exposed to the virus that stupefied humanity in the first place. The film would end with the twist of the man finally being shoved in front of a camera, but he can't speak because at this point his mind is turning to mush by the minute. He stares into the studio lights like a deer in high-beams. The ape military banging on the door to the newsroom, then bursting in and blowing all of them away with heavy machine guns, live on air. Ape society will know nothing of the truth of this man falling from the sky and not only bringing the gift of space travel to ape society, but changing the notion that humans are and have only been good enough to be slaves to superior ape masters. FADE TO BLACK... FADE IN on a TV screen, showing the first ape space rocket launching. Ape families stare at their TV sets, in a montage resembling the kind of thing you'd see in a movie about humans staring in awe of news coverage of the first man setting foot on the moon.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Hell yes, I love the GoT music

    by lv_426

    One of the best pieces of theme music for a show or film of recent years IMO.

  • I'm not normally one to toot my own horn either, but I think this idea is solid. ^see my long ass post above for the story synopsis.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Rise Of The Dark Dawn Of The Legendary Guardians Of The Planet Of The Apes

    by animatronicmojo

    But seriously, nice synopsis lv_426.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST

    lv426

    by paul burnett

    The thing is though,aren't we as the audience supposed to be siding with the apes? Would ape future have tv and movies?..Friends starring a bunch of apes but with Ross (a baboon) having a pet human called Marcell!!

  • Would be an awesome talkback handle.

  • Ape television wouldn't have to be exactly like ours. I'm thinking the basic world building notion would be to take certain things we have in the present day (things I mentioned like TV, jeeps, helicopters, machine guns) and twist the designs enough to make them fit into the ape society. For example, an ape car would have different proportions than one designed for a human. The doors and windows might be different shapes and sizes. The space between the seat, steering wheel, and floor pedals might be shorter to account for an ape's legs instead of a human's. An ape machine gun might look similar to say an Browning .30 cal or M60, but if a human tried to use it, he or she would have an awkward time of it due to apes having different proportions to their arms and fingers for instance. Since we are talking about the Apes franchise in general, a lot of their military and police are made up of the gorilla class. Perhaps a human or a smaller ape wouldn't even be able to lift a big ass heavy machine gun made for a gorilla trooper to wield. Then thinking of architecture, I think what might happen after the humans fall, Ceaser would start building ape society. They'd repurpose human structures, but eventually would build on top of them. That would be cool to see on screen. Older human style buildings with the different aesthetic of ape architecture built onto them. Another thing about the ape fashions, architecture, and technology that would be cool would be if they were sort of the ape versions of late 50's and early 60's style fashions. This fits two notions. First, that the apes are at a societal stage similar to where we were in the 50's and 60's, with the space race and all that. Also, it would be nice to do this in a way to sort of call back to the original, being that it was a science fiction film from the 60's in the first place. Not that it would be like Mad Apes starring Ape Draper or anything, but just little flourishes with the design elements is all. Basically this would be a great chance for a filmmaker to go nuts with the world building aspect of things. Things could be a nice mix too. The apes would have slightly better computer tech than what we had in the 60's, since the apes were able to take human technology and redevelop it in certain ways. So it would have a slight retro-futuristic vibe, but nothing too insane. I could see an ape sitcom working into it all though. Maybe an ape equivalent of Different Strokes, where a wealthy old orangutan adopts a chimpanzee kid and a gorilla teen, saving them from a hard life in a rough ape neighborhood. Perhaps the ape that writes and produces this ape sitcom can be the father of the journalist Zira-type character?

  • As their society becomes larger and more complex, various viewpoints and agendas take hold and everything is not as simple as unite and fight the humans. Kinda like the original, where you had Zira as an ally, and Dr. Zaius as the dickhead who was more about the status quo than pursuing any sort of truth or justice. Plus I just love the idea of having a balls out bloody and tragically shocking twist ending. If you really get down to it, the ending to the original is pretty dark really. Same with Rise of the Planet of the Apes. So I guess I like going back to the twist ending idea, but doing it differently than the original or any of the sequels/remakes did it. I guess that fits in with the darkness that was creeping into films of the late 1960's like the original Planet of the Apes, and then came to the forefront of many films in the 1970's.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 5 p.m. CST

    would a Fox executive please contact lv426..

    by paul burnett

    ..Cos methinks he could solve your franchise problems.....( i think he's a POTA fan!!)

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Matt Reeves and Fox.

    by TheCrouton

    Sorry, but Cloverfield was simply average, and Let Me In wasn't good. I enjoyed ROTPOTA, but if Reeves is doing it, I think I'll pass. But Fox is to blame. They should let the writers, actually write the script before setting a release date. No wonder so many films turn out badly. How hard can it be to MAKE THE FILMS THEN SET A RELEASE DATE??? It worked in the past, it can surely work again.

  • Ape Gunn as his wife Skyler. Gorilla Norris as Agent Hank Schraper.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Giancarlo Apespasito as the villainous mastermind Gibbon Fring

    by lv_426

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST

    How did Reeves make Let Me In his own?

    by Bass Ackwards

    The book was quite different then the Sweish movie, the Swedish movie found a tone and through line to the plot and made this beautiful, intimate story from it. Reeves then just remade it, he didn't did his own tone, didn't make a different adaptation of the book or a fuller or more tre adaptation, he just did what the first movie did, same tone, same pacing, same beats, same characters, but did it with higher production values.

  • makes the content of the till his own.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST

    *BAAAARRRRRRRRFFFFFFF*

    by Jared Bond

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST

    get monkey scorsese.

    by vulturess

    badumbump!

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibson as actor and director

    by HoLottaMo

    Subtitled simian monkey grunts and Mel as a Col Sanders mustache wearing lunatic who slaughters the apes and sells their corpses in large buckets ...both regular Mel recipe and extra crispy. Must have rousing speech to his employees and bone shattering rallying cry from Mel to rally against the hoards of filthy, dirty apes.

  • Sept. 26, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    The top ape news channel would be ANN, with Wolf Baboonzer

    by lv_426

    and Aperson Cooper.

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 1:09 a.m. CST

    I'm sorry but...

    by Therealumlaut

    Matt Reeves (CLOVERFIELD and LET ME IN) IS THE WORST CHOICE EVER! But people do fail up in this town.

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Same

    by Therealumlaut

    Agreed!

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 1:31 a.m. CST

    I think Rise sucked, but i also really liked Prometheus so f**K me right?

    by Balkin Flabgurter

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 1:58 a.m. CST

    And yes f**k you iamlopanureggshen69 , because i liked both

    by quantize

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Who cares?

    by mcflytrap

    Rise was not a good movie. It's amazing how little taste most people have here.

  • I think because the trailers for ROTPOTA didn't really do much for me. Sometimes a movie works but just not in condensed trailer form. With Prometheus it was a different thing due to it being such a big deal having Ridley Scott returning to science fiction and the Alien saga. As Spinal Tap would say, "our anticipation amplifiers go to 11." One thing I do really appreciate with both the Alien and Planet of the Apes films are that they are ballsy. Not all of the sequels in each series always worked, but they usually tried to defy expectations by being conceptually ambitious.

  • I will say though, both David from Prometheus and Caesar from Rise of the Planet of the Apes were equally awesome characters.

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Spoiler: The Humans Lose.

    by Smerdyakov

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    A monkey could direct this and it will turn out half decent

    by Gutshot Clown

    See what I did there...

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Fresnadillo would be great too

    by chien_sale

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST

    I like the idea of Apes directing a Planet of the Humans movie.

    by SergeantStedenko

    Mockumentary style like a Christopher Guest movie.

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 10 a.m. CST

    I agree with quantzine regarding Reeves

    by SergeantStedenko

    Bad choice, Jerry!

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    antonstark

    by SergeantStedenko

    And you have a problem with that?

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    crouton, the problem is that Hollywood does not respect writing.

    by SergeantStedenko

    How do you think that Orci and Kurtzman have careers.

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Why is Timmy B. not on shortlist?

    by darthflagg

    I want to see how Thade became Ape Lincoln, dammit!

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Read my fingertips: they will find a way to FOX it up!

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Even when they do something good, like Rise and First Class, there's always a feeling like it's really close to being bad. Like all those useless teen mutants in First Class (Xavier-Fassneto saved that one) and some really cartoony kid ape CG in Rise.

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    And Prometheus

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Zombie crewman? Beta alien with garden gnome head? The first scene promised so much. Fox, always balancing on the edge to shite.

  • Sept. 27, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST

    *Beta alien with garden gnome head?*

    by lv_426

    Ha! That is a perfect description of that god-awful Deacon Alien in Prometheus. Not only that, it was too big to even have been gestating inside the Engineer in the first place. It seemed as if it almost came out from some hidden womb underneath the floor. Ugh. I really hated that design. Just removing that little cliche horror movie scene of the Deacon at the end of the film would be a massive improvement to the film.