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It is now confirmed, Hayden Christensen IS Anakin!
LATEST UPDATE!!!
My buddies over at 4FilmMakers.Com just wrote me a few moments ago saying that they just got it confirmed that Hayden is to play Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars Episode 2 and 3. So... to complete your Darth Vader autographed still, you're going to need Jake Lloyd, James Earl Jones, Hayden Christensen, Sebastian Shaw and David Prowse. So go to ebay and buy them before they skyrocket! hehehehehe...
UPDATED!!!
Hey folks, for the last few hours I've been pursuing the name of Hayden Christensen, as a scooper supplied the name as being the unknown actor that'll play Anakin. At the same time this source said that it was a shoo-in that Christian Bale was going to be Bail Organa, and not the Ryan Phillipe that we have below. Still, we have the possibility that a certain Sean Patrick Flannery might be playing Bail Organa as I heard a few weeks back. Now... Variety and Michael Fleming seem to indicate that Hayden Christensen is Anakin with Lucas close to announcing it, but no mention of a Bail Organa, but this earlier source seemed to nail the Hayden bit, but... then there's the fucking dreadful concept of Ryan Phillipe.... dear god no.... but, alright... I'll admit it, I HATE THIS GUESSING STUFF, even if it is semi-educated. Best as I can tell ya right now, Hayden Christensen will be Anakin (hahahah) and either Christian Bale, Ryan Phillipe or Sean Patrick Flannery will be Bail Organa.... Or maybe, George is casting Ryan's eyes, Sean's smile and Bale headshape.... Whatever... There will probably be an announcement sometime soon. YEAH... Right, like that'll ever happen.
this is what this Hayden kid looks like:
Hey there Star Wars fans, well I'm sending the up-n-up on what I hear tell is the .... ahem.... truth about the casting of ANAKIN SKYWALKER in that small indie shooting down under soon. If you go to: 4FilmMakers.com you'll see the following info has been added to their entry on STAR WARS EPISODE TWO:
As of 05/04/00 the role of Anakin Skywalker is down to Ryan Phillipe and an unknown actor.
Well, I also had this confirmed by an Agent bloke working the ol telephones and pushing the cards.
However, a source that came to me right after my speech about ILM's FRANKENSTEIN told me something... something a bit cryptic about some news that he said I'd be hearing in the future. He told me that within a week, I'd hear that the casting for Anakin had come down to two people. One would be a shocking, but known name that we hadn't seen attached or rumored to the part in very many places. The other would be an unknown actor. HOWEVER, he said that the fact was these two were in fact cast in the film. The known actor would be playing the part of the young Bail Organa, and the Unknown would be playing Anakin. Now, I pleaded with him to spill the skinny, but was told that Lucasfilm is trying their hardest to make sure that the name of Anakin not appear till the anniversary of STAR WARS (name that date for 5 points in the headline of your talkback, and you may be eligible to win the AICN Toaster!)
So, if in fact the casting is down between Ryan Phillipe and Mr UnKnown, Mr UnKnown is Anakin and Phillipe would be Leia's adopted daddy. So, there ya have it. I have one confirmation on the information that 4FilmMakers posted, and then a source claiming to know that that information would be hitting soon. I know... it's dodgy, but what the fuck... ya know you love talking about STAR WARS as much as BATTLEFIELD EARTH and Porn.
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I don't know.But can I still have the toaster?
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Which is when they'll tell us about Anakin :)
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That sunuvabitch wouldn't know an emotion if it appeared on his face. He has no clue how to read a line and the struggle shows on the screen. I'm not an actor and I can tell the way he reads his lines are completely wrong. He has the unbelievable ability to make words and sentences not make sense. He also has the worst head of hair I have ever seen. Straigten that shit!
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It's been awhile since I last tried to remember the release date and I've probably got it wrong but I had to venture a guess.
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There is no actor better suited for the role of Anakin than Ving Rhames. Greedy Lucas should give the fans what they want for once, and give Ving the role he was born to play....
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May 19th 1977
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Uh, SW date: May 19
Re: Anakin...
It is a done deal.
"The unknown", and I know his true face, will indeed be anakin.
Can't speak on Mr R.P.
All I can say is, IMHO, 'perfect casting', Mr Lucas, Mr McCallum and crew... This boy will do a fine, fine job of taking anakin through to the dark side.
The girls will love him, and he'll look great on a Pepsi can!
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May 04, 2000 2:44:24 AM CDT
bruce campbell for anakin? (shit, he's up for everything else, i
by tommy five-tone
'variety' says the unknown could be some guy called hayden christensen (i've never heard of the dude). dunno abour ryan phillippe, although he's improving with each role he takes on. still think jonathan jackson is the way to go, but if colin hanks gets a role, i'll fucking burn down skywalker ranch, i swear to god. have none of you watched 'roswell'? he's a pretty piss-poor actor.
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Now give me my damn toaster! You know where to find me.
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that hasn't been mentioned here for a while. It could plays R2's love interest.
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First of all, Ryan is too old to play Anakin - he's 25, while Portman is about 19. He would be perfect for a young Bail Organa. Then, couldn't be this unknown be Colin Hanks? Despite his daddy, he IS a true unknown to most people, TV shows don't count. Then there was that Jeff Garner Harry came up with some months ago. TheForce.net however has another name - it's a guy called Hayden Christensen... You can check it here http://theforce.net/episode2/
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May 04, 2000 3:05:35 AM CDT
I love the smell of a Star Wars talkback in the morning.
by cereal killer
Well, now I know what I'm gonna be doing all night tomorrow; reading the talkback on this story. "Star Wars" talkbacks always take me 5 or 6 hours to get thru but I hafta read each one. I love seeing how the site divides into two camps over "Phantom Menace." There's the group that recognizes what a piece of total shit it was and the losers who can't admit it sucked because that invalidates their whole existance. I can sympathize since they've spent their whole lives defending the trilogy to those who don't get it and now here they are left with a pile of Bantha dookie that can't be defended with a straight face. As for this news about Episode two, I'm sorry to see that they decided to go the gay porn route with the movie and cast that "I'm-in-love- with-myself-cause-I- look-so-much-like-a-woman" creep Ryan Phillippe. I love his wife, Reese Witherspoon, but I can't see what she'd see in that skrawny little Nancy-boy. Oh well, the only casting news that can really excite me about this movie is that they've recast the director and screenwriter. As long as Lucas is at the helm by himself then this movie is certain to be a disappointment.
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Boy, like life isn't enough of a kick in the nuts, I hear this info is posted at 4 film makers whatever .com and I go there, NOTHING...ok, so I sign up. NOTHING
Christ o mighty, I must be retarded. What am I not seeing?
If god forbid Ryan Phillipe IS anakin, and there is a confusion, and it is him, not as Bial orgasm, I will cut my penis off and become a nun...why not...no bills, and aint getting any anyhow...
But seriously, hyden christensien is a cool name...that's all I know. He better not be a squishy hunk of the month to satisfy the gummy appetite of these absurd 14 year olds who like, oh my god, think he's so h-o-t...let it be a...ummm....oh, an ACTOR THAT IS MENACING, TALENTED, LOOKS LIKE LLOYD AND WILL CONVINCE US OF HIS LOVE FOR HIS MOM/PEOPLE, HIS GREED/ IMPATIENCE AND THAT HE CAN KICK HYPER ASS...
Not some guy who I will confuse with somebody in a tampon commercial.
I am not some jealous fanboy running in my vader undies, all fat in nasty IN MY MOM'S BASEMENT secretly wetting myself over the idea of saving NABOO or whatever godforsaken that dumb boy lives on...
Not at all, I have my own apt LOL!
Ok, seriously, I could care less as long as it is good. But if it is not, MESA GONNA GO TO SKEYWALKER RANCH AND TAKE MEESA A BIG BAG OF FLAMMIN DOODY AND MESSY UP THE RANCH AND BURNY IT DOWN, OKEYDAY!
"Ding dong, package..."
http://www.dogdoo.com and send 'Ol lucas a nice sweat treat if he blows this one like a $10 phillipeno hooker(not affiliated with that site, but it's great fun!)
Please Harry, or whomever, do not link to sites that do not provide the info as mentioned. OR, tell stupid people like me what to do to get it.
I really wish Vince Vaughn could have been the young vader, but he has to be 19...oy...
Well, for the two of you reading this. Thanks. Nothing against AICN/Harry...just going nutty for it and wanna have some fun. HEY, can't blame me for that...
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Yeah, here is the guy that most likely will be him:
http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=6334
I can actually see it. Has what they want in him and there is an awful lot of smoke to not have been a fire...
Do I agree with this choice? Ah, who cares...doesn't look like lloyd and might not be menacing enough...but I can see it...let's just get the ball moving on this one...better not F this one up.
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I genuinely don't like that kid and I hope that he has nothing to do with Star Wars. I think Jonathan Jackson is the best one for THE ROLE.
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You won't be able to convince me that "The Phantom Menace" is the real title. Don't be ridiculous.
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I don't like Ryan Philipe! But I might just be jealus because he's going to be in Star Wars and is married to Reese Witherspoon!
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Unless Ryan-the-kiss-between-Sarah-Michelle-and-the-Zoe-chick-wasn't-the-only-lez-stuff-in-Cruel-Intentions,- cus-I'm-pretty-damn-girly-Phillipe gets cast, there really isn't a whole lot here to agonize over. Sure, Jake Lloyd's performance in Episode I was worse than sipping rancid bong water out of a syphalitic leper crack whore's denture glass, but hey it still turned out to be a purty damn entertaining film. When I start to feel upset about casting news for upcoming blockbuster movies that I can't wait to see, it always chills me out a bit to sing the theme from Family Ties. Try it. I dare you. Sha la la la...
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...those squeaky clean US soap star types (specifically the blonde one who was the male lead)that were in Starship Troopers are ideal Anakin material. If Colin Hanks gets it I'm gonna launch missiles at the Ranch.
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May 04, 2000 5:01:14 AM CDT
It's COLIN HANKS people! Although it should have been Brad Renfr
by glippyglipson
So, the son of Forrest becomes the father of Luke and Leia. This will undoubtedly bring us some unforgettable dialogue: "My momma always said, the force is like a box of midichlorians, you never know what uncle George will pull out of his ass next." Or (and how's this for irony?) Episode 2's title will be: Ani versus the volcano! I mean, come on, it makes perfect sense! No wait, the title will simply be: Coruscant and the movie's about Anakin, who becomes sick (because of his extremely high midichlorian count) and the Jedi-order fires him, so he finds a friendly lawyer (Walken) who helps him sue the Jedi temple. And while I'm at it, wouldn't it be a great idea to have James Cameron direct Episodes 2 and 3? I can hear the production meetings now, with Cameron saying: "Now George, I have a great idea. We're gonna build a 3/4 scale replica of the Death Star, shoot it into orbit and film it. You know, for realism." And.....ah damnit! Where are my caffienated peppermints?!?
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anikan in phantom menace looked around 10, bale can maybe pass for a twenty year old. which means in between episode 1 and 2 he'd look like he grew ten years older. but natalie portman wont look ten years older then what she did in episode 1.
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It could be my memory failing, but isn't this part already cast? I wouldn't put a months pay on it, but wasn't Irish actor Adrian Dunbar (Here My Song etc) cast for this part.
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Get me porperly started...I keep trying to sing the theme from family ties and keep getting..."here we are, face to face... acouple of silver spoons...hoping to find ..we're two of a kind...."
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His dad's his agent, which is always a good way of keeping contract, travel and audition stuff secret. The only problem is that he's from Toronto, I don't mind that he's a canuck, just that he's probably all aboot the Leafs damn it.
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this stupid moron says anakin will be played by hayden christensen, then he tells us there's a pic of ryan at the bottom. at the bottom, he says this is what hayden looks like. it looks to me like that's ryan phillipe. what the heck is going on? what the heck does this hayden guy look like? GOD!
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if you want a real laugh at early star wars stuff, go read the first drafts of the script, cuz they are abysmal.
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What would we do, baby, without us? What would we do, baby, without us? And there ain't no nothing we can't love each other throooooooough. What would we doooooooo? Sha la la la.
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...that in Cruel Intentions the acting was so bad that it seemed like they were reading off cue cards? Maybe it was just the dialogue, but that film left me with a negative opinion of that Ryan guy. Oh, and Mr. Lucas., Greedo's firing first? Worst decision you ever made.
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I bet we've been together for a million years
And I bet we'll be together for a million more
Oh, it's like I started breathing on the night we kissed
And I can't remember what I ever did before
What would we do, baby, without us?
What would we do, baby, without us?
And there ain't no nothing we can't Love each other through
What would we do, baby, without us?
Sha-la-la-la
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May 04, 2000 7:42:44 AM CDT
And here's the complete theme never heard on television...
by r_dimitri22
I bet we've been together for a million years
And I'll bet we'll be together for a million more
Oh It's like I started breathing on the night we kissed
And I can't remember what I ever did before
What would we do baby without us
What would we do baby without us
And there ain't no nothing we can't help each other through
What would we do baby without us
Sha-la-la-la
If it's absolutely perfect, the last puzzle piece
And it all just comes together like we had it planned
Ooh, It's like when we share a secret we could never tell
'Cause no one else but you and me could understand
What would we do baby without us
What would we do baby without us
And there ain't no nothing we can't help each other through
What would we do baby without us
Sha-la-la-la
You've got my number, and I know you know it
And I'm stickin' with you 'til the end
Ooh, I'm in trouble if I ever lost you
I'd spend my whole life looking for you again
You've got my number, you've got my number, you've got my number
What would we do baby without us
What would we do baby without us
And there ain't no nothing we can't help each other through
What would we do baby without us
Sha-la-la-la
You've got my number, you've got my number, you've got my number
Sha-la-la-la
You've got my number, you've got my number, you've got my number
Sha-la-la-la
You've got my number, you've got my number, you've got my number
Sha-la-la-la -
.....IS AN UNKNOWN-ISH ACTOR TO PLAY ANAKIN, THAT WAY WE WONT ATTCH ANY FALSE HOPES AS ALMOST CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO BALE COMING OFF AMERICAN PSYCHO OR WES BENTLEY AMERICAN BEAUTY
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He looks like an older Jake Lloyd, and he looks like someone who can be sweet and nice for "Episode II" and mean and angry for "Episode III". But can he act??? At least pretty-boy DiCaprio is out!!! Speaking of "Cruel Intentions", was I the only one who was disapointed that Sarah Michelle Gellar never took her top off???
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Just in case y'all were angry with me for diverting the topic from SW to a cheesy 80s sitcom. But those guys before me started it. And these SW talkbacks are a dime a dozen anyway. You know what should have been a sitcom? The setting: Mos Eisley cantina. Our protagonist: Bea Arthur as a crusty but warm-hearted bartender with a penchant for song. The hook: Each week a different alien patron overcomes an emotional crisis while the Norm Peterson-like Hammerhead is an omnipresent source of witticisms.
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The script doctors for American Graffiti were Will and Gloria Huyk - although I might have the spelling of their wack as last name wrong. They also helped out on A New Hope. I think they ended up getting divorced or something. Larry Kasdan picked up their reins, doing the screenwriting for Empire and Jedi. And, since you asked, for the record Ryan Phillipe is ok on screen, but Christian Bale blows him out of the water. Moreover, Bale looks a hell of a lot more like the guy Lucas cast and cut from Ep. I as Bail Organa than Phillipe does, so I am pulling for Bale all the way. As for Anakin...unknown...all the better. The problem for me is not a young Anakin, it is finding and actor that can realistically make the transformation to Vader by the end of the trilogy. You think John or Josh Jackson could pull that off? Hell no - and neither does Lucas. --MS
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May 04, 2000 8:40:59 AM CDT
Hayden Christensen = PUCK from the REAL WORLD SAN FRANCISCO
by darthpsychotic
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Dom as Anakin and Burt Reynolds as the emperor in the kessel ball run ! I here there will be a cgi sammy and dean too!!!
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May 04, 2000 8:54:45 AM CDT
You know what? Lucas has made only two good casting choices thr
by lance rock
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...James VanDerBeek, Freddie Prinze Jr., Joshua Jackson, Fred Savage, David Hasselhoff, Wayne "Newman" Knight, Chris O'Donnel, Steven Segall or Richard Grieco as Anakin over Ryan Phillipe. He's just so foppish, dainty, and feminine. Please, George, Rick, Lynn, do not cast Phillipe in this movie at all. If for some reason you have made a pact with Beelzubub and simply must cast him, please make him an Ugnaught or Gamoran Guard. DO NOT CAST RYAN PHILLIPE AS ANAKIN!!! I'm having chest pains...
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He won't be back till late July. I can't see how he'd be able to do it.
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Look at the size of that lightsaber!
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Ryan Philippe would have made a great Anakin Skywalker. He had such a strange aura about him in Cruel Intentions; an aura that is perfectly suited for the part of Anakin Skywalker. Everyone can see it, why can't you? (Reference to Phantom Menace folks). And one little matter about Bail Organa; maybe a guy who is a little older might not be out of the question? I'm just tired of all of these young political figures; is there anyone over 18 in the Senate, besides Palpatine (who looks to be about 25:-). That's all I have to say... for now.
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Seriously, folks..... this is a complete no-brainer. BTW, I'll send a package of Shirt Tales puffy stickers to the first person who posts with the name "Darth Guzman."
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I know that Nipsey Russell has signed on to play Bail Organa...Lucas wants the character to speak in rhymes. Also cast is stephen geoffreys(Fraternity vacation, fright night, heaven help us, and GAY porn) as anakin...it seems that he and Ms Portman had great chemistry. Other names i hear are charles rocket, charles nelson reilly, ryan stiles, alexander siddig, and the guy who played HR Puffnstuff....long live Richard Kline!!!!
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I've been checking out this web site for quite some time now and I have to say that many of the comments I read are pompous and immature. Does anyone have anything positive to say about anything of Lucas? All I read are negative things. Remember, this is Lucas' film. Let him cast who he wants, and just roll with it. It's only a movie. I loved tpm. I've seen it many times and I will episode 2 and 3. Are people so caught up in there lives that they can't escape for a few hours and be a kid again. Come on now,it wasn't that long ago. People fail to see that tpm was the first of six. Just sit back and enjoy it for what it's worth. Much fear I sense in you.
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Wow, I just heard a rumor that really took me by surprise. After contacting several of my very reliable sources, and cross checking with my dog and my sister's unborn baby... All sources are pointing towards... ME!!! That's quite a shock since I don't remember even contacting Lucas or his people, much less auditioning. But that would explain the frequent blackouts I've been having and why I keep waking up in strange dressing room trailers. I was leading towards Alien abduction, but I guess a lucrative career as a mind controlled film star is just as likly.
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Just imagine: the gungun plains of Naboo at dawn, those long eared warriors preparing for battle...and then trounced by thousands upon thousands of clones of Luis Guzman in Mandalore Armor! Sweet Jesus and Mary Chain, that would be stupendous!
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Whenever I catch myself about to say something whiney, I think to myself "Would DARTH VADER say this?" So then I picture him trying to say, in that evil as all HELL voice, something like: "Jesus, why the hell can't you fucking dorks ever listen me?!"
Or, "Oh my hands, I think I'm getting carpal tunnel." Or, "No, I never said that. Stop putting words in my mouth!" And suddenly I'm good to go. Note to all folks regardless of whether you've forgiven Lucas or not- Before you retort to anything, think to yourself: "Would DARTH VADER say this?" Peace to everyone -
What I don't understand is this obsession that the actor look like an older Jake Lloyd. I demand that the actor look like a YOUNGER David Prouse. HE was Darth Vader, at least body-wise.
I think that we're going to see a much more mature and intelligent Jar Jar in episode II, and its going to pull his behavior in I into perspective. At least, I hope so.
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May 04, 2000 10:49:38 AM CDT
Phillipe has been rumored everywhere! Flannery or Bale are the
by drath
Lucas had better rewatch and remember everything he ever did in movie-making school because he has GOT to make the next one good. If even Liam Neeson came off wooden, then NO actor can survive acting against nothing without an involved director. How I wish Lucas had Spielberg's talent(or had at least continued directing after SW). I can't blame little Jake Loyd entirly for his bad performance(the dialogue wasn't much to work with) and Lucas needed to work with him. He was just a KID, he couldn't carry that whole movie! Lucas needs to remember what it means to DIRECT dammit, not just say "yeah, great work, Liam, but you're not looking at the eyes were the cg platapus man will be."
"Okay, George, but don't you think I should be inflecting my voice a little, I mean I AM human and I'm worried my student isn't learning the--"
"Whoa there, what is this The Phantom Schindler? That's too complicated! The eyes, Liam! Just hit your mark."
They could clone Lawrence Olivier for Anakin and he'd be bad if Lucas doesn't guide him with good dialogue and helpful direction. I mean, they're acting against blue screens and clowns in latex!!! Screw the CGI crap and tell a story again, George! PS, So is Adrian Dunbar out of Episode 2? Fine by me, he was like 35, and seemed too old for the teenage queen(even ickier than her and 8-year-old Anakin). But I hope that Flannery or Bale gets the part. -
anyone see Guzman's scene cut from Mystery Men? (it's included on the DVD version). funniest damn thing in the movie, IMHO
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I love SW talkback! I think dude above is right, Ford & Guiness were the only correct castings. But then again, Anthony Daniels was tailor-made for C-3P0, and Darth would not have been Darth without James Earl Jones. I can only think of two actors with the voice to match, & I don't even know their names. JEJ MADE Darth Vader the menace he was. Even though Ewan's role was useless in the Toilet Paper Menace, I think we'll see just how perfect he is to play Obi-Wan. Ewan is the BEST actor George has ever cast, I don't care what anyone else says. Just watch Trainspotting. Watch Velvet Goldmine and tell me he's not the spitting image of Iggy. I remember watching trailer B w/ friends, we had to rewind the part where he says "Once those droids take control of the surface..." We were just baffled, saying "That IS Alec Guiness, man!" Long post, had to get my thoughts in. I don't mind Phillippe. I think he's a decent actor. He's better than Lloyd, Quarshie, and Hamill.
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Nipsey Russell is out after demanding that he get top billing. so Lucas is focused in on either Joe Don Baker or David Hedison to play Organa. As for Anakin, several new names have popped up---Willie Ames, Danny Pintauro from Who's the Boss,and Hank the angry dwarf is back in the running after a spectacular test with natalie portman. My spies told me that the two had many drinks after the test. My spies also say that Lucas has decided on a title---Star Wars Episode 2 Manos The Hands Of Fate....Long Live Richard Kline!!!
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Warning You have just corrupted harry's Website and His Mind
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...POSSIBLY let a Star Wars Talkback go by without saying Jar Jar sucks.
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May 04, 2000 11:43:04 AM CDT
Let's call all the good looking male actors fags so we can feel
by lobanhaki
I mean ,really, it sounds like the worst kind of "I can't believe this guy gets to have sex with Reese Witherspoon" shit. Grow up.
I mean do these guys all have to look like ten miles of bad road for you fellows not to call him a queer?
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I just heard that hillary swank was going to go gender bending again and play anaking....so, who thinks that would be really hot? Her and Natalie have a great peach fuzz eatin' scene...yum yum....and I heard nipsey was going to play Lando's dad LeRoy...oh well...
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June 15, 1977 (they didn't release so-called summer movies before memorial day once upon a time.)
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Fuck - I think there's a riot going on outside my office window. Thought you should know.
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you fanboyz suck arz! who cares who lands the role, either the script will suck or it won't, either the movie will suck tpm style or it will rock new hope style. personally i am just glad that the matrix broke it off in lucas' rear all night long at the oscars. "and the oscar goes to....the matrix again." anyway, phillipe way wrong for role... i usually don't jump on the bust his chops bandwagon... but there is something about phillipe i cannot stand. i think it would have been cool to go with an unknown.. someone no one knows a damn thing about, no film or tv credits. nothing. like harry's farm boy, the garner kid. whatever happened to the kung fu, midwest stage thespian you backed a few months ago harry?
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Please don't let Lucas cast that NSync guy in SW!!! He is.... Oh nevermind, not the same guy, but tell me he doesn't look like him. I went over to Cinescape this morning and when the front page loaded and I saw the picture of this guy, my first reaction was Christ, Justin from NSync is being considered now?? Then I read on and was relieved only slightly. If this rumor is true I guess Lucas has decided to cast based on a formula. That same formula that brought us such wonderful things as Backstreet Boys, NSync and the like. Basically, guys who look the part and will make the little girlies swoon. I mean unknown is fine, but this guy couldn't be anymore cookie cutter looking. And as for Ryan, all I can say is if in fact he is cast in any role in this film it will be a shame. He is just not right for this movie and casting him along with this Christensen kid will make a promising concept for a movie turn into Dawson's Creek goes to Alderon.
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That picture of hayden cristensen looks like the kid that did a stint on dawsons creek.I remember because he kinda looks like leo dicaprio.Anyway i remember him out acting the entire cast, and thinkin to myself this guy should do films.Not a bad choice if it is him.
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May 04, 2000 12:16:19 PM CDT
Why cast Anakin when you can lovingly craft him out of semi-seam
by lshb
Hell, the CGI imaging software probably comes with a 'Aryan man' template they can just modify. Why worry about some actor who will age, hold interviews in which he might speak his mind, or that you have to interact with as a human being? The only scenes in TPM that worked as a whole were those entirely based in CGI since then you didn't have those untidy and embarrassing false shadows, loss of dimension when someone walked in front of Jar Jar, Jar Jar's feet not really moving along the ground quite N'SYNC with his speed..speaking of which, if they do cast a generic blond as Anakin, I hope they pick a peroxide one with black eyebrows because we all know how cool that looks.
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:) Bwahahaha.
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What? No chatter on the fact that Lucas has changed his mind and will be releasing Phantom on DVD? (Now that all the hardcore, undiscriminating fans have bought it on VHS, of course.) His people even said it was pressure from sites like this one that caused the about-face. Congratulations to all you passionate, if grammatically-challenged, STAR WARS aficionados.
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I met Ron Jeremy once. He smelled really bad. Like cheap cologne and nut. But then again...shit, Id smell like that too if I had a 10inch schlong. Yup Yup
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Star Wars opened on May 24, 1977
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Ernest Borgnine as Yoda. Oh yes, I went there.
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Go Re-take your Star Wars 101 class. Y'got a good - and humorous - point in that whoever thay cast as Anakin should look like the older version we see in Jedi. However, it wasn't Prowse that suppied the facial features, it was Sebastian Shaw. I'm just saying is all. --MS.
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I think this Anakin speculation is cool, but would not put too much faith in anything until there is a final announcement. As for those of you who feel TPM was sub par, I beleive you. You really did not get what was so great about it. I would also guess that you will not like the next two, because Star Wars films are way too deep to pass judgement on in a few viewings. You can't assess them like a baywatch episode. You have to actually think about the hidden symbolisms and meanings behind the events in the film itself. Perhaps you are one of those "But I know what SW is because I really got into the classic trilogy need to take it easy. You have had over 20 years to get to like Luke's incessant whining, or Leias bithcy presense. Trust me, in another 20 years, you people will deny every saying that TPM or Jar-Jar sucked.
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I have finally decided to let Star Wars go. With my first viewing of "The Phantom Menace" my faith in George Lucas and the Star Wars universe as a whole was destroyed, shattered forever. From here on I'm putting all my faith in Peter Jackson and "The Lord Of The Rings" with a story that wonderful they'll be hard pressed to totally fuck it up. But then again you never know!
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I don't know much about what's going on with the Anakin casting for Episode II, but I have heard it rumored that the person who's going to be playing Anakin in Episode III is none other than...William Shatner. That's right...our own James Tiberius. Now, I can't vouch for the credibility of this rumor (I got it second hand), but you can find the details at: www.dangernauts.com/html/ffg_scoop_01.html
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Sorry, hit enter on the last one too soon.
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May 04, 2000 1:58:57 PM CDT
Anakin and Spider-Man Are Both Being Played By The Same Guy, Ron
by golgo-14
I always thought Ron Jeremy was an accomplished actor. Aside from his award winning work in such films as Forrest Hump and Anus & Andy, he's also done some serious stuff like Orgazmo and Detroit Rock City. He's just perfect for this role.
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THAT'S RIGHT! YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST! NOT ON THAT SHITTY DARKHORIZONS SITE!
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Don't knock the guy based on one crappy still that Harry posted. I saw the guy recently in a TV movie(opposite fellow Anakin candidate Jonathan Jackson interestingly enough) and some crappy Family Channel series, and he's definitely a great choice as far as looks are concerned. He could easily pass for an older Jake Lloyd, he's the right height, he's not a scrawny little puss like Leo, and best of all he's less than 2 months older than Natalie Portman. Remember that she's gotta look 5 years older than Anakin in the next film. As far as his acting skills, a TV movie about teen drug addiction and a Family Channel show about troubled kids ain't exactly the best place to find good performances, but he did appear to have some talent hidden in there somewhere. And he's certainly better than 90% of the teen actors currently polluting the airwaves and multiplexes.
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What anniversary? A screening was held Sunday morning, 5/1/77 at Northpoint Theater in San Francisco with a recruited audience. The cast and crew screening was 10 a.m. 5/21/77 at the AMPAS theater in Beverly Hills. The official release was Wednesday 5/25/77 in 32 cities, with screenings beginning at 10 a.m. in New York and Los Angeles.
And who really cares who plays Anakin? Pick the next boy in line. It's not like there's any acting ability, charisma, or personality required to stand in front of a green screen.
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1} He should be a good actor. True, this hasn't stopped George Lucas before (sometimes he got lucky with a Harrison Ford or a Richard Dreyfuss) but as long as we're still in the wishing stages, let's wish for acting talent.
2) He should look like he could have been Jake Lloyd at age 10 (why did Lucas have to make Anakin a 10 year old in Episode 1? I liked the damn thing but that was lamer than Jar Jar, all justifications about missing Mom aside).
3) He should look like Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher could have come out of his midiclorian laced gene pool.
4)He should look like he could become Vader. I'm talking about presence here. A certain arrogance. Give us an actor with those traits and we'll believe that with bionics, armor and that cool helmet he could be our boy.
5) He should be believable as a pilot, warrior and techie. See Requirement number one about the good acting.
6) He should be someone whom we could see being lured by the dark side (I mean, even as teenager I didn't think Mark Hamill was really tempted) but whose inner decency we can still see.
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Ever notice he talks just like him, really enunciating every word? And has anyone else ever noticed that weird bump on his forehead? Oh, and the fact that he can't act for shit? Someone get Lucas to cast Vincent Kartheiser and let the shoot get going already!
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Bail Organa was technically in Phantom Menace! His scenes were cut. Remember... we saw pictures of him on the internet!? I think he was played by Adrian Dunbar.
Do you honestly think Philipe (aka shithead, talentless, over the top, arrogant) will play Bail Organa?? Give me a break.
If it's not on the official site... it just isn't true boys and girls.
I love Episoe I, despite the fact it has flaws (ALL of the films had flaws). Lucas will sink this ship if he casts a known actor that everybody hates.
He can do nothing but prevail if he casts an unknown actor with raw talent. Screw good looks... that should be the last factor.
---moto (chairman of STOP THE WHINING: A STAR WARS PLAGUE... you know who you are, stop bitching about this movie. You didn't like it? Fine, shut up and I'll STILL see you in line for the next one! Not everybody liked those Star Wars movies! Just shut up!)
You think Lucas is a sell out? Fuck that, he finances his own films through the money we spend. I think he's smart for all of the marketing. HE DOESN'T BEND OVER FOR ANY STUDIO! He does his own thing. He says," You don't like it? Fine. But why is it the third highest grossin gfilm of all time? Some people liked it..."
Does box office egual quality? Not really. BUT IT DOES SHOW THAT THE FILM TOUCHED PEOPLE ENOUGH FOR THEM TO SEE IT OVER AND OVER.
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May 04, 2000 3:46:47 PM CDT
i can`t belive you all!!!!!!!!! pauly shore is perfect for anaki
by bigbenkenobi
th weasel would be the best for eII and eIII. "here comes the weasejedi to knock off your noggin...dude.....hee,hee....i am going to use that jedi thing on you....party on whhheewwww."
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May 04, 2000 3:48:12 PM CDT
i can`t belive you all!!!!!!!!! pauly shore is perfect for anaki
by bigbenkenobi
th weasel would be the best for eII and eIII. "here comes the weasejedi to knock off your noggin...dude.....hee,hee....i am going to use that jedi thing on you....party on whhheewwww."
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This has gotten WAY out of hand folks...think about it.
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I read somewhere that they're looking to cast this guy Cylk Somethingerother (security guard from White Men Can't Jump, a former hoopster & kickboxer) along with Walken, Yamaguchi, and Gabriel Byrne, all as Sith Lords and apprentices. I foresee something big going down. Those four are going to kick some Jedi ass.
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Paulie shore would go away forever if you would stop mentioning his fucking name....jesus
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May 04, 2000 4:00:09 PM CDT
One piece of crap away from giving up on SW and these casting wo
by kojiro
Much as I loathe saying this...at least the THE LEO is an adequate actor, unlike all those cookie cutter fucks who've been mentioned. They all need to be beaten with a sack of doorknobs. I swear if it weren't for the lightsabers I would have stopped paying attention to SW long ago. I think that comment about THE LEO has made me sick, must run for toilet...
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Most of us are action adventure fans. Weather or not someone is pretty doesn't concern us, what we want in our stars is macho, edginess, and intelligence. Who would you want watching your back in a gunfight? A good number of fan favorites here are guys that look like "ordinary Joes" (Jean Reno, Robert DiNiro, Al Pacino) But there are plenty of Male Model looking types that I would trust with my life when the shit goes down (Chow Yun Fat, Antonio Banderas, even Tom Cruise if the right director is shooting the scene)
All of these WB kids from Dawson's Charmed Party of Five Popular Vampire Slayers from Roswell all look like overprivelleged suburban white kids who've never had to fight for anything unless they were bullying the nerds.
I think we're a little more accepting of Black actors in action roles because even privelleged black kids have it tough. Certain guys like Wes Bently have an edginess that we see develop in certain kids who are just too smart or creative to conform in overpriveleged white suburbia. This edginess can make someone from the most pampered upbringing still belivably dangerous. Think Christian Slater in Heathers, compared to all the jocks he killed.
So no, don't hate them because they're beautiful. But if they are beautiful, they better be badass if they want to be taken seriously. I understand Philippe's holds a black belt in some martial art. If we could see some of that maybe it could earn him some street cred. Ironic that he could probably kick the asses of many of his detractors at this site. -
Most of us are action adventure fans. Weather or not someone is pretty doesn't concern us, what we want in our stars is macho, edginess, and intelligence. Who would you want watching your back in a gunfight? A good number of fan favorites here are guys that look like "ordinary Joes" (Jean Reno, Robert DiNiro, Al Pacino) But there are plenty of Male Model looking types that I would trust with my life when the shit goes down (Chow Yun Fat, Antonio Banderas, even Tom Cruise if the right director is shooting the scene)
All of these WB kids from Dawson's Charmed Party of Five Popular Vampire Slayers from Roswell all look like overprivelleged suburban white kids who've never had to fight for anything unless they were bullying the nerds.
I think we're a little more accepting of Black actors in action roles because even privelleged black kids have it tough. Certain guys like Wes Bently have an edginess that we see develop in certain kids who are just too smart or creative to conform in overpriveleged white suburbia. This edginess can make someone from the most pampered upbringing still belivably dangerous. Think Christian Slater in Heathers, compared to all the jocks he killed.
So no, don't hate them because they're beautiful. But if they are beautiful, they better be badass if they want to be taken seriously. I understand Philippe's holds a black belt in some martial art. If we could see some of that maybe it could earn him some street cred. Ironic that he could probably kick the asses of many of his detractors at this site. -
Far fewer people give a shit about it; that's the sad thing. The anticipation/enthusiasm level for many people is maybe 50% what it was for Episode 1. I will definetly see it as soon as it comes out, but it'll be just another summer action movie. And the reason for that is very simple; Episode 1 largely sucked ass. Don't get me wrong; I am a HUGE Star Wars fan, and have been since I was like 9 years old. At best, The Phantom Menace was a waste of great ideas, beautiful imagery and cool special effects. The negative elements were so distracting from the positive, that this film is the only one so far in the Star Wars saga that doesn't get a good overall rating from me (and countless other fans). The story and much of the dialogue was boring, even some of the action scenes turned out lame. The Gungan battle scenes were too obviously like Braveheart and therefore not as exciting as they could've been (they even ripped off freakin' ID4 !). Even the space battle stuff was inferior to anything from the original trilogy; the effects were too cartoony and we didn't get the same depth as (for example) flying down into trenches on the Death Star, and the space battle scenes with Anakin were so illogical (even for SW) and lame. Jar Jar was a royal pain in the ass (funny doesn't mean obnoxious) and a total waste of phenomenal animation, the Nemodians (sp?) looked and sounded too stupid to be true. The cats in Stuart Little were ten times more convincing than those dumbass characters, and why did they have to speak with bad imitations of Japanese accents? The battle droids sounded so idiotic; why the hell couldn't they get deep metallic voices, like Vader? Even Yoda turned out bad ! He had that obvious puppet mouth, which they should've easily fixed with CGI. There were too many little faults, that added up to a big pile of crap. Anakin could've been ok if they changed that YIPPEEEE !!!" type of crap. And what the hell is up with those Midi-Chilorians, or whatever they were called? Talk about draining out all the mysticism. Much of the movie had such a cheesy feel to it; I bought the widescreen video (and sold it the same week) and found myself fast-forwarding through so much of it, and literally feeling embarrassed by parts. The saving grace was the incredible imagery like the Naboo palace and the gigantic Coruscant city, which had unbelievable depth, and a few of the characters. Darth Maul is one of the greatest villains in the history of Sci-Fi/fantasy, but they hardly showed him at all ! And as awesome as the final light saber battle was, the way they lead into it was so stupid; why didn't that huge group of people blow him away with their weapons? Why did TWO Jedi have to fight him? (not exactly a fair fight). Finally, on top of all the flaws in this film, it was hyped to such a ridiculous level, which is fatal for a film. And after it came out, there didn't seem to be such a great reaction overall; it didn't even win a single Academy Award ! If it was up to me, I would've had Lawrence Kasdan write the script, Steven Spielberg direct it, and George Lucas serve as executive producer. I'm not going to read anymore news/rumors about Episode 2, partly because I don't care nearly as much about it as I would've if Episode 1 was great, but also because I may end up enjoying Episode 2 if I don't know anything about it. Anyway, my prediction is that Lord of the Rings will turn out MUCH better than new Star Wars trilogy.
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...First Reese, now this. Why won't you just die bastard!!! Whhhhhyyyyyyyyy.
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5.) "you mean I get to go with YOU on a STARSHIP?!?!?"
4.) Saying goodbye to momma.
3.) Shmi:"any attempt to escape..." Twirp:"and they BLOW YOU UP, BOOM!" (check his face out after this line, classic bad acting.)
2.)tie: "Yippie" and getting upset after Watto "insults" Qui-Gon after the pod deal is struck.
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5.) "you mean I get to go with YOU on a STARSHIP?!?!?"
4.) Saying goodbye to momma.
3.) Shmi:"any attempt to escape..." Twirp:"and they BLOW YOU UP, BOOM!" (check his face out after this line, classic bad acting.)
2.)tie: "Yippie" and getting upset after Watto "insults" Qui-Gon after the pod deal is struck.
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Pah, I have problems. I'm gonna fail basic nutrition because I can't remember when or where I was supposed to take the damn final, and now I can't find the fucking professor anywhere. WHO FAILS NUTRITION? Awwwww crap, now they say their gonna build that fucking stadium in Chinatown. What else could possibly happen to me today?
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Hayden Christiansen, to me, would be a believable Anakin. He would have to be somewhat good looking for a piece like Amidala/Padme to want him. Also, he doesn't come off as a pretty boy who is a wuss. I don't know why, I just get that. Ryan Phillippe as anything in Star Wars...NO! He comes off as WAY to arrogant and not refined or intellegent enough to play a Repulic Senator or a future Rebellion leader. And as far as Bail already being cast and the scenes removed in TPM, all I hafta say is JABBA. He was cast in the first movie as well.
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I don't know what's wrong with me, but I accused some poor chap named RUI earlier in this post board that he was the fake VEERS. This is simply not true and I am starting to worry about my sanity. I have taken on multiple personalities recently, and I have gone as far as to register a Hotmail account in RUI's name and pretend like I am him. Please realize that whenever you see the USER ID "VEERS" or "VEER S", that it is the same BRIT who likes his tea with a spot 'o milk. On the other hand, when I quote portions of the pretentious BRIAN DePALMA'S journal, it is completely authentic. Stay tuned for DePALMA'S self-congratulating chapter on how to stretch out a continuous stedicam shot so people think that your talented, while completely ignoring story lines and plot. I am also ashamed to admit the crush that I have on WOLVIE6.
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Any chance of this one starting out with Jar Jar Binks being decapitated with a light sabre? Or better yet, have the movie be played like picture in picture, and in the small picture show Jar Jar being repeatedly tortured until he finally dies in the end.
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I know -- I was there. Grovel before me, O lesser souls, lest I assault thee anon with more worthless reminiscences!
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...Okay, this kid is not the best child actor to ever work, but Robert DeNiro in short pants couldn't have done jack with most of the dialogue the poor kid had to say or the part of Anakin itself. We should have seen hints of the Vader to come other than the poor kid missing his mother. George, if anything drove this character to the dark side, it was the reaction and arrogance of the Jedi themselves. Yogurt said he was too old? By the standards of what species? Afraid? Part of the human condition and if he was afraid why was he portrayed as fearless in situations like the pod race and Maul's attack. If he didn't miss his mother, he would be heartless, which would make him a good candidate for the Jedi as far as I can see. Hell, if I was the kid and Yoyo and Mace Windu treated me like that and I was picking up on Obi Wan's dislike of me, and I had these natural skills, I'd start looking at a guy like Maul and think that he had this training without putting up with all these assholes. But Lucas never touched on anything like that. Too human, too complex. It makes you wonder if George ever saw Star Wars? People dis his dialogue, but I watched it again recently and it was crisp and witty, with bickering, human character I could relate to. I do respect George Lucas but as an adult fan, I feel that the work of a multi-billionaire in his fifties should be subject to harsher criticism of a struggling young filmmaker just out of his twenties. George, you did something so great when you were young, without all the money and the computers. Why isn't it better now?
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That way, when we enter the theaters in 2002, it will be the second coming! Jezus, I hope so. C'MON GEORGE, THE SECOND COMING!!! IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK? I do not hate Lucas, but I'm dissapointed by the fact that he's not a filmmaker anymore. I also hate that he groups all fans together -- the bashers and those with valid criticism alike. Maybe he never was a filmmaker -- maybe ANH was a fluke? I guess all this will be answered in 2002. And if you're going to flame me about my POV on this -- don't bother. I've heard it all before already. When you pay someone $8.50, that someone owes you a good f#$%ing movie.
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May 04, 2000 6:29:38 PM CDT
Hey! The official Ep1 DVD is now available at Australian Target
by opticnerve
Now that I have your attention...I don't know quite what to say. Let me just reiterate - If you're disillusioned about Star Wars, stop reading AICN posts on the subject! Go somewhere else. It's no big revelation the some dick wad ex fan boy thinks "Star Wars Sucks". Your opinion counts about as much as a drop of water in all the oceans of the world. And no amount of posts is gonna change the fact that it still made 3rd highest grossing movie. Build a bridge and get over it. Now lets have some constructive posts regarding the saga!
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I hope you read this George. Fuck you asshole! Thanks a lot for destroying 2 brilliant films like Star Wars and Empire. With 2 bullshit "episodes" straight. Jedi was a bunch of faggot ewoks and The Phantom Menace was the worst movie EVER! I hated this film. The story sucked and Jar Jar reminded me of the 4 year old kid next door that I periodically beat up because he's a wuss. Screw you George Lucas. Screw you for messing up what could have been gold. I don't care who's going to be Annikin because this film will suck a monkey's cock. So fuck anyone who likes The Phantom Menace and most of all Fuck you George Lucas.
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May 04, 2000 6:34:57 PM CDT
You will find that it is YOU who are mistaken. About a great man
by gomer
Please allow me to respond to some of your well thought out post. ["Far fewer people give a shit about it; that's the sad thing."] Being the one who posted the largest post (before mine) here you really think any of us beleive you don't give a shit about it? ["The anticipation/enthusiasm level for many people is maybe 50% what it was for Episode 1.] You do realise that having more realistic expectations will allow you enjoy the films right? Why is this a bad thing? ["I will definetly see it as soon as it comes out, but it'll be just another summer action movie."] Just like all the other Star Wars films made. ["And the reason for that is very simple; Episode 1 largely sucked ass. Don't get me wrong; I am a HUGE Star Wars fan, and have been since I was like 9 years old. At best, The Phantom Menace was a waste of great ideas, beautiful imagery and cool special effects."] From your point of veiw. ["The negative elements were so distracting from the positive, that this film is the only one so far in the Star Wars saga that doesn't get a good overall rating from me (and countless other fans)."] You see? You are the one who is letting the fact that the film was not what you thought it would be get in your way of finding out what the film WAS about. As you said, it distracted you. This means you allowed it to get in the way. ["The story and much of the dialogue was boring, even some of the action scenes turned out lame. The Gungan battle scenes were too obviously like Braveheart and therefore not as exciting as they could've been (they even ripped off freakin' ID4 !)."] Whoa, take it easy there pardner. TPM ripped off Braveheart? Have you seen Braveheart? Did you see any tanks, or force fields? Of course not. I can only assume that your comparrison has to do with the concept of having a large number of participants on either side. That is what war is. People, fighting other people. I will just leave alone your attempt to say TPM ripped off ID4, not even you could beleive that. ["Even the space battle stuff was inferior to anything from the original trilogy; the effects were too cartoony and we didn't get the same depth as (for example) flying down into trenches on the Death Star, and the space battle scenes with Anakin were so illogical (even for SW) and lame."] First of all, the space battle was not supposed to be the big spectacle scene in this film. They really didn't have a deeper plan than, attack the droid control ship. They are not trained tactitians and that is why that sequence does not have the same kick as ANH. ANother effect of downplaying the space battle is to allow room for the climax of the next two films, and the rest of the classic trilogy to be climactic. Anakin's "whoops" that takes out the ship may seem too stupid, but it is trying to illustrate the concept of the will of the force being in charge. Perhaps if you weren't so distracted from the film you would understand why the events played out as they have. ["Jar Jar was a royal pain in the ass (funny doesn't mean obnoxious) and a total waste of phenomenal animation, the Nemodians (sp?) looked and sounded too stupid to be true."] Once again, from your particular point of veiw. Many of us realise his importance to the saga, and do not think Jar-Jar is a waste in any way. The Niemodians were also fine. So their lips didn't sync. Big deal. ["The cats in Stuart Little were ten times more convincing than those dumbass characters, and why did they have to speak with bad imitations of Japanese accents?"] Actually they were bad Transylvanian accents. Because that is how Niemodians talk. ["The battle droids sounded so idiotic; why the hell couldn't they get deep metallic voices, like Vader?"] Becuase whou would fear Vader if he sounded like those easy to destroy battledroids? Anyone? Anyone? Buhler? Buhler? ["Even Yoda turned out bad! He had that obvious puppet mouth, which they should've easily fixed with CGI."] Yoda was a puppet in the classic trilogy, and to remain consistant, they kept Yoda a puppet in TPM. What's wrong with a little continuity? ["There were too many little faults, that added up to a big pile of crap."] You must have had the same trouble with the classic trilogy, as there were far more "faults" as you call them in there. ["Anakin could've been ok if they changed that YIPPEEEE !!!" type of crap."] What would have made you heppy here? "Keeen!" or maybe "Swelll!" I think Yippie was perfect. It shows Anakin's lack of self concious tendacies. He is not worried about what people like you think about him. ["And what the hell is up with those Midi-Chilorians, or whatever they were called? Talk about draining out all the mysticism."] Nothing about the Force has changed. Midichlorians, are just like their real world counterpart: Mitochondria. Mitochondria resides in all living cells on Earth. Some scientists beleive that they are the reason life exists. Just like Midichlorians, Mitochondria were feared by people who until they were discovered, only had their religious (read More Mystical) explanations for how Life came to be. They (much like youself) felt that we should not know too much about it, and that it would disprove the existance of God himself. Obviously, these fears were rash and unfounded. In fact some beleive it could be used to prove the existance of God. Obvoiusly, being distracted by how much you didn't like TPM, you probably never thought of any of this. ["Much of the movie had such a cheesy feel to it;"] Gee, just like all the other Star Wars films so far, I can see why you would expect something else (That was sarcasm my good man :) ). ["I bought the widescreen video (and sold it the same week) and found myself fast-forwarding through so much of it, and literally feeling embarrassed by parts."] You would think that in the privacy of your own home, you could stop worrying about what others thought of you and simply concentrate on understanding the film, but obviously for some people, being cool is priority 1 24-7 ["The saving grace was the incredible imagery like the Naboo palace and the gigantic Coruscant city, which had unbelievable depth, and a few of the characters. Darth Maul is one of the greatest villains in the history of Sci-Fi/fantasy, but they hardly showed him at all !"] If you would think about what is happening in the film's storyline, you would realise that it is every bit as deep as the visuals. Also, one of the things that makes Maul so Bad Ass is his brevity. ["And as awesome as the final light saber battle was, the way they lead into it was so stupid; why didn't that huge group of people blow him away with their weapons?"] Because they would have hit nothing, and more than likley had a bunch bounced right back into them. You saw how the jedi did it to the droids right? This makes my pojtn about how you dismissed this films without even thinking about it rationally. ["Why did TWO Jedi have to fight him? (not exactly a fair fight)."] I guess Obi-Wan should have noted the fairness of it all and just hung out by Anakin in the hangar? Dou you even think about things before you type? ["Finally, on top of all the flaws in this film, it was hyped to such a ridiculous level, which is fatal for a film."] This is something Lucas faught against. He originally had TV spots planned, which never aired because he felt that us Fans had already hyped their expectations boynd what was possible. Looks like he was right about you and the "many people who agree" with you. ["And after it came out, there didn't seem to be such a great reaction overall; it didn't even win a single Academy Award!"] Hollywood hates Lucas because he sticks his nose up at the "Hollywood" industry. In return, the critis and the Acedemy goes out of their way to try and bring him down. It pisses them off more when his films succeed despite their best efforts. ["If it was up to me, I would've had Lawrence Kasdan write the script,"] Lucas passed the script for Episode I past Kasdan, who told him to "Not Change a Thing" He feels that Star Wars is Lucas' (I think it has something to do with the fact that HE CREATED IT FROM ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING) and therfore it should represent Lucas, not some other writer. I for one agree with him. ["Steven Spielberg direct it, and George Lucas serve as executive producer."] I think Lucas was a fine director, nothing against Speilburg, but I think he would have put the wrong spin on the film. ["I'm not going to read anymore news/rumors about Episode 2, partly because I don't care nearly as much about it as I would've if Episode 1 was great,"] You realize it WAS great right? ["but also because I may end up enjoying Episode 2 if I don't know anything about it."] I agree with this sentiment whole heartedly. ["Anyway, my prediction is that Lord of the Rings will turn out MUCH better than new Star Wars trilogy."] I really hope it is good as well, but after the prequels are all finished, it will most likely have to deal with the number 2 spot.
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May 04, 2000 6:37:14 PM CDT
The actors aren't the problem -- it's the writing and directing
by superninja
You're telling me a nine-year-old boy is suppossed to act without direction? I think Terrance Stamp made it pretty clear when he discussed in a magazine article about shooting the Senate scene. He was excited about working with Natalie Portman, when George informed him that he'd let her go for the day, and if he wouldn't mind talking to a wooden post with her headdress attached. C'MON!!! What more evidence did you need? When Obi-Wan (one of the main characters of the new trilogy according to Lucas himself) is eclipsed by a CGI alien, who do you blame? Can anyone give me any other reason why Jar Jar was in more of the film than Kenobi, had more dialogue, than simply to feed Lucas ego? Some technological terror you've created there, Lucas. Too bad no one cares about him.
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So Harry I see how this works. I post a message telling George Lucas what I think of him and you (like the pussy you are) place it in the middle of the postings? Right where no one (especially Geroge Lucas can see it). You son of a bitch, you're censoring my speech you McCarthyist! Do YOU work for Mr. Lucas or are you just afraid that I speak the truth about the garbage films he puts out. My post should be on the bottom of the page where it belongs, not in the middle you chickshit coward. Grow a set of balls and give my posts some respect. I'm not afraid of Billionaire Lucas like you. It's time someone takes a stand against censorship and poor filmaking. I guess, that someone is me!
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Enough already with the TPM bashing! Posters like Eternal, Cereal Killer, and others have gone on here and stated over and over again how much they hated this film. One of you fools even went so far as to say that those of us who liked the film are in denial becuase it validates our existence! From the bottom of my heart buddy..FUCK YOU! Unlike the majority of fanboys on this site, I actually have a sex life...with a good looking girlfriend, too. I work, go out, party, raise my kid, and enjoy other activities other than movies. I also look decent enough to get a date. And I love Star Wars, including Episode 1. Let's get this straight, fuckwads, I LIKED THE DAMN MOVIE. OK? IS THAT OK WITH YOU? I'm not blind. I know the movie had flaws. I know the movie wasn't perfect. SO WHAT? Almost every great movie has flaws, if you look hard enough.(Raiders Of The Lost Ark, Citizen Kane, and the original King Kong are the exceptions in my book). The fact is Episode 1 entertained the hell out of me. I loved it. I also loved The Matrix..ID4...Titanic...The Sixth Sense...A Few Good Men...Scarface...The Godfather I and II...Armegeddon...and so on. I don't claim to be the final word on whether a movie is good or not. I fucking hated Home Alone, it didn't make me laugh for shit. But it made over $250 million at the box office so obviously a bunch of people disagreed with me. And ya know what? THAT'S OK!! I don't go around claming that they're in denial. Eternal and Cereal Killer, if you hated the movie, fine. Keep it to yourselves, no one else really gives a shit. Don't call me in denial becuase I loved Episode 1. You sanctimonious self-righteous fuck. A LOT of people loved the movie, as seen by the record sales the video produced. Bet that pisses you off, doesn't it? Well, tough shit! When Episode II comes out, I will be in line and I'm sure I will enjoy it, and it'll probably be better than Episode 1, as great a film it was. Please, PLEASE, do me a favor and reply to me. That is, if you have the balls to do so. Tell me why I'm in denial. Go ahead. Hell, email me if you want. I'll be waiting. Joey Stylez is OUT.
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Hey guys, I agree with you all. Star Wars Episode One could have been WAY better. Flaws and loopholes and just... Jar Jar. But an amazing thing has happened. A fog has been lifted. I'm reliving my first Star Wars experience through my daughter. She watches it day in and day out. She likes Jar Jar. She loves Anakin. She wants to be Queen Amidala. She wants her own Pod Racer. She plays with the EP1 figures I bought in the begining. And all I could do was just look at her and wonder, "Is this my child? How could she like this movie?" And then one day, she was at her grandmothers house, watching Star Wars EP1, and after seeing it so much, I was talking with her grandmother. And she said, "That is your daughter. She's watching this movie just like you use to watch the first Star Wars." And then all was clear. This movie wasn't made for us hard core fans. It was made to CAPTURE this generations kids. To clone our generation, and give them the fun we had. Maybe that is why we don't like the Star Wars of today. Ours was better (hehehehe), but EP1 is doing what it was set out to do. Capture the hearts of the young. And it's doing it's job... well.
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Yeah, we have to like TPM because it "validates our existence." Okay, so we have a reason to be here, spending countless non-productive hours jabbing about Star Wars. What's your excuse? I mean, at least we still LIKE Star Wars. Yet here you are, reading and writing about it. Why? Because Lucas owns your ass. Like all the bashers, he owns them. He couldn't own them anymore if he had a collar around their scrawny necks. Their entire lives revolve Lucas and his Empire. Even when they react against him, they're still reacting TO him. Their lives would shrivel up and and dissolve into the ether without Lucas. Same goes for Eternal, you stupid, ignorant fucker. TPM KICKED YOUR MOTHER'S ASS FROM HERE TO TATOOINE, BITCH!
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GUESS-THE-ANAKIN is the best part of this prequel trilogy,besides being a hell of a lot of fun. I love the films and all, but it's hilarious watching everybody on the planet and their mothers getting the billing as THE NEW SOON-TO-BE DARTH VADER.
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I've fucking had it with all this god damn "Phantom Menace Sucks" shit. Every Star Wars post on this site all you Talk Back idiots talk about is how much it sucks. You know what, Phantom Menace kicked some serious ass!!! Episode 2 will kick some serious ass!!!! Episode 3 will kick some serious ass as well!!! So enough is enough. We understand that you didn't like the movie, but we don't need to hear it every fucking time!!
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jason schwartzman as anakin. hell yes. and weezy jefferson as darth assface.
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May 04, 2000 8:48:00 PM CDT
All right, Children, Time for Orpheus To Reveal the Truth about
by orpheus
Well, I was going to include this in my last post, but the pizza man was at the door. Anyway, I can't help but notice something, a recurring motif that permeates every inch of SW talkbacks ... The bashers go over the same thing over and over again, about how Lucas owes them, needs them, and how he raped their childhoods. Yes, but they go even a step further. A typical basher will say something like this: "Well, I'm a huge SW fan, but while I was watching that suckfest TPM, everytime Jar Jar would come on screen, Lucas would sneak up behind me in the theater, throw me down, bend me over the movie seat in front of me, rip my pants off, and get me up the ass." I mean, I've been reading statments to this effect since May. So I have a question for all the disenchanted bashers: Why do you always employ homo-erotic imagery when you go to describe your relationships to Lucas? I mean, it's never just "God, TPM was a really awful waste of celluloid," or "TPM was a tremendous letdown after the first three." It's always more like "While I was watching TPM, Lucas snuck under my seat and molested my genitalia," or "Lucas sucks Jar Jar balls." You know what I mean? I think you do. All too well. You're getting read faced as you read this. You're palms are sweating. You've got an itch you can't scratch. Face it. Your problem isn't TPM. Nor Jake Lloyd. Nor Jar Jar. Nor merchandise. Nor the fact the Lucas won't let Moriaty come over and move in with him. Your problem is that all TPM bashers are repressed homosexuals. It is so obvious now, isn't it? All that rage. All that anger. Welling up inside you. All that misdirected frustration that you you have to aim at something, because loking in the mirror would be altogether too painful. It's okay. Others have been there before. Of course, they actually admit their true nature and deal with it instead of hiding behind a fanboy tag and spending all their time insulting a perfectly respectable movie. Now, we all know that most of you have never kissed a girl. And it's not because you're 300 pounds overweight, live in your parent's basement, your only recreational activity is Magic: The Gathering, subsist on an unhealthy diet consisting solely of ho-hos and doritos, you have the social skills of a piece of grapefruit and the personality of a day old turnip, etc. Granted, none of these things would particularly be an asset if you did actually want to pursue a female ... but the truth of the matter is that you don't. And you take out all your confusion on Jar Jar instead of heathily dealing with it. Just admit it. That is the first step toward becoming a fully realized human being. Just admit that when you pretended to jack off to Padme's picture in the latest issue of the SW Insider to impress your friends, just admit that you secretly had your eye on Obi-Wan the whole time. Admit that you want to feel the power of Ewan's lightsaber. There's nothing wrong with being gay, if that's who you are. There is something wrong with pretending you're not and denying to yourself and everyone else. The bashers spew endlessly about how Lucas has ruined their lives. Why? Because he made a bad movie? Hardly. Nothing of such small consequence could ever constitute a reason for any sane person to whine and moan about a film for twelve months straight, without ever ceasing or stopping. Like most people, if you see a movie you don't like, you'd probably just forget about it in a week or two and that's the end of that. But not bashers. They hate Lucas because they love him. Because he awakens their passions within, and they can't deal with that. They idolize him, and want to make him their cuddle monkey. They want to stroke his little beard and find love and happiness. That's the same reason they piss and moan about all the so called "Hollywood hunks" discussed here. Because they're secretly attracted to them. Such truth is too harsh a reality for them, so they retreat into the "Lucas likes to hump Ewoks" diatribes. Yet those diatribes, filled to the brink with homosexual images, reveal their true feelings and yearnings to the entire talkback community. They lay themselves bare because they are subconsciously crying for help. Well, I for one hope they find it, and perhaps find each other, and experience the kind of love they so ardently desire in the darkest recesses of their confused psyches.
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Kids also like "Baby Geniuses" -- does that make it a good film? I think not. I saw ANH around the age of 8, my FATHER, a huge SW freak (still is, thought TPM wasn't very good) saw it in his early 20s. Someone explain to me how this makes it for kids? Sure, it is NOW. But Lucas acts like it was allways concieved that way, and it's just not true. Early drafts of ANH are even MORE adult in nature. So, the kid thing just doesn't fly with me.
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FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!!What orpheus said made perfect sense...and that is why it hurt you larry...it makes you want him...you think that maybe orpheus understands you, maybe he knows that its like to have a crush on Scott Baio, just like you did in 1989, when the rest of us were wanking it to Nicole Eggert, you were dreaming of Scott Baio and Willie Ames in a lusty clench....
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Hell YEeeeuh. Gots ta represent on dis here shizat. www.elvesontricycles.com
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Uh....I like pie.
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Hayden Christensen is Peter Parker/Spider-Man?? I heard Regis is going to play Boba Fett
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May 04, 2000 11:19:40 PM CDT
since he gets to romance Natalie for TWO films,I now hate Hayden
by rjtapper
nothin personal, but this guy better be able to act
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Why, you ask. Simple. It all starts back in Return of the Jedi when Luke popped the mask of Vader. And inside was...a fat white guy with a head like a potato. Imagine how much better that movie would have been if Luke had gotten the mask of and James Earl Jones had been in there. Then Luke could have said, "You lying mother fucker...you ain't my father!" And Vader could have replied, "Your Mama sure says I am!" Cut to Ep1 - Jake Lloyd replaced by the kid from Soul Food. Cut to Ep2 - instead of this pretty boy we get Wesley Snipes beating the shit out of Ewan McGregor, giving Natalie Portman more dark meat than she can handle, and convincing Samuel Jackson to "get the fuck back to dark side where you belong, brother!". Then the two of them destroy the Jedi Council, make Portman their personal fuck slut, start the Empire and make the universe a much much cooler place.
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May 04, 2000 11:53:27 PM CDT
Long live Hayden Christensen...May the force be with him!!!
by kawabunga dude
He's perfect for the fucken part of Anakin Skywalker...not to mention he's from Toronto, Canada so am I. I'm so glad we are breeding a Jedi turned Sith from my own city...
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Didn't you?
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Interesting news to say the least..the photo posted makes him look like William Katt...THE GREATED AMERICAN HERO for those too young to remember....well I say, let's give him a chance. We love Canada...have lots of friends there and are even honorary hosers...can't you just picture Anakin wearing a touque, sitting on the couch with Bob and Doug, enjoying some beers and back bacon...hey like, maydaforcebewithya!!
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Good luck to you in this ultra-high exposure role. This is the role of a lifetime, and all eyes are watching you, in hopes that you bring that magic that will become later, Darth Vader. Granted, if you don't do your part, may you be stoned by a council of fanboys! hehe. just kidding.
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May 05, 2000 2:22:52 AM CDT
[]D[][]V[][]D's Up, Ho's Down, While You MotherFuckers Bounce to
by []d[][]v[][]d
Thank Jesus Christ that Leo Di, Ryan Phillipe, Dawson's Creek's Tinkbells Joshua Jackson & James Van Beek or any other "boy band type" was CAST. This motherfucker Hayden Christiansen played a SMACK -HO in a recent TV movie about Heroin, he can't be that bad. For all you cocksuckers out there that said the Leo Di was gonna be ANNIKIN, well lets just say that he will have stick to playing roles where he gets fucked-up-the-ass by some older guy for cash. Hell I might even make him ONE OF MY HO'S and TAKE A SHOT AT HIS ASS MYSELF.
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I hate it.
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Roger roger......I love star wars and enjoy the crap out of even the Phantom Menace but man did I cringe and feel silly in my theater seat when i heard "Roger Roger." It suddenly dawned on me that wow, this isnt all really that big a deal and man im getting older cause i just feel silly. I think I was expecting George Lucas to have some amazing cgi woman to reach out of the screen and yank me off..but instead it was just a funny kiddie movie. JMS rules.
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I've got a bad feeling about this
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I would have to say that i'm looking foward more to Martix 2 then Star Wars 2. I mean, Martix was one of best action movies ever in my opinion. Hopefully Star Wars 2 proves me wrong , and turns out to be a decent movie worth watching more then once....But we'll see....all i know is that i think alot of people would agree Martix was a way better movie then Star Wars 1 -
This is the most insane bloody talk back I have ever seen. IT'S A MADHOUSE! A MADHOUSE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! Run for your lives.
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Okay kids, do I REALLY need to remind you that this is EPISODE 2? Didja get that? EPISODE!!! Not PART! It's not a sequel, but the next chapter in a flowing narrative. Did ANY of you blasting this next chapter EVER stop to think that the reason that so many things were left untouched in TPM was because they are pieces of the next two stories? Well, did you? No, you obviously didn't. If every question and aspect of the characters was resolved in one movie then there certainly wouldn't be the need for 5 MORE CHAPTERS!!! And as far as the very FEW of you that actually didn't like TPM and claim that "no one else did either," then why is it the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time? don't you dolts realize how fast bad word of mouth gets around and how easily and quickly it will kill a movie, EVEN A STAR WARS MOVIE?!?! Well, I hate to tell ya, but obviously QUITE A FEW people liked it! As far as who should be who, sit back, let the PROFESSIONALS do the casting (remember, you have NOTHING to do with the making of these movies) and let the actors do their jobs. Too many of you guys out there talk about this stuff like you're experts with years of experience in the buisness that's called show, yet not a damn one of you whiners are working in it. Kinda interesting, isn't it? You know, how someone who's not even in the buisiness can know EVERYTHING about it *note sarcasm*. If you don't like Star Wars, then don't post on the Star Wars news bits, it's that simple.
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No way, this Hayden guy cannot act.
He was in the cheesy Freefall movie with Bruce Boxleitner - watch that movie and tell me he can act...you'll struggle.
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Getting the autograph of Sebastian Shaw might be a little difficult, as he is now "resting" permanently.
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Burn, baby, burn.
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...zee only REAL problem here is zee deplorable state of zis TalkBack! What a bunch of poseurs: "I actually HAVE sex". and how about: "I'm good looking enough to HAVE a girlfriend". Pretty freaking pathetic fellas. Guess what? WE DON'T CARE! You SW knuckleheads need to get some better schtick! SM{;-0
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I'd bet my milk money that Lucas makes the boy into a puppet and a stiff figure. I mean, look at McGregor. what a waste of talent.
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I have nothing against the kid, but did't he look and sound like a retard in the scene when he was in the pod screaming "It's working! It's working!"? He looks like he can play everyone's favorite down syndrome kid Timmy in a live action South Park movie.
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This is all too weird. I did the closed captioning on several episodes of Hayden Christensen's Tv show - Higher Ground - which shoots in Vancouver, Canada. If you want to visit the show's site it's at - http://www.foxfamilychannel.com/higher_ground/story.html ********** It's a very bad show, and I'm not convinced he's a very good actor. Actually, I think he's probably quite bad, at least the kind of medicore actor that a director who doesn't know how to direct actors (as George Lucas clearly does not) cannot make something good out of. I would say this is a very distressing development, but I didn't really hold out much hope for Episode II. This confirms, however, that Lucas is completely out to lunch. ************* For a far better take on Episodes II and III (and, hell, Episode I as well) visit my site - The Star Wars Prequel Rewrites at********* http://www4.50megs.com/paladin***********Cheers :)
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Your a sick little punk. Shut your piehole boy.
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Lucas should have known that Lloyd was going to suck. He made Arnold look like an Oscar winner for best actor. Fuck Lloyd! Man, I don't care who Lucas brings in as long as he can ACT! And Harry you retard, there were four guys in the orignal trilogy that played Darth Vadar/Anakin. Jones, Shaw, Prowse, and another guy who filled in for Prowse during the lightsaber fights with Luke. Ask Mark Hamill!
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all you people dissing hayden, well that is just down right rude!
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Man...i thought leo was gonna cast anakin..damn it..leo is the perfect choice! what is lucas thinking? I have not seen a picture of this hayden dude..but i would be really pissed off if he doesnt have blonde hair and blue eyes...i hope lucas knows that as you grow up in life, your eye and hair color wont change...
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