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Len Wiseman To Reheat THE MUMMY For Universal!
Beaks here...
On one hand, you hate to see an average, unambitious filmmaker continue to land studio tentpoles. On the other, you don't really want to see a truly talented filmmaker get stuck with a project where his primary concern will be manufacturing a marketable four-quadrant product.
And so I've no quarrel with Universal hiring Len Wiseman to direct their latest reboot of THE MUMMY. The film will be produced by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci (nice, smart guys who tend to make massively uninteresting movies), and written by Jon Spaihts (whose PASSENGERS is one of the best unproduced screenplays kicking around Hollywood). Deadline spoke to Wiseman and Kurtzman, and I'll give them this: at least they're putting their own spin on the story. Kurtzman likens it to a Michael Crichton yarn, in which the fantastical is given a scientific grounding. Wiseman says it will be "a darker twist on the material, a scarier version."
I have no idea why Universal isn't prioritizing a remake of DRACULA in these vampire-obsessed times (they've had DRACULA: YEAR ZERO in development for a few years), but these are the folks currently trying to reconfigure David Cronenberg's uknown-to-the-mainstream VIDEODROME as an sci-fi/action flick in the mold of Wiseman's TOTAL RECALL remake (which lost Sony a shitload of money this summer). Here's hoping Len Wiseman accidentally makes a movie I like this time.
Universal is targeting a 2014 release for THE MUMMY, so casting news (i.e. Kate Beckinsale's involvement) is likely to be announced soon.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST
Say what you want about it, but Sommers' Mummy was well done
by terry1978
Yeah, he basically aped Indiana Jones, but he brought a nice spin to the story which could have been very typical light horror retread. It was a fun flick, and adding the "yeah, we know how cliche this story is" tongue in cheek shit did work.
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so casting news (i.e. Kate Beckinsale's involvement) is likely to be announced soon.
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What exactly is the benefit of walking around 4000 years later as a mummified corpse with no internal organs?
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Sept. 24, 2012, 5:59 p.m. CST
Can someone in the industry explain why Wiseman's getting work?
by juice willis
Seems to me that getting directorial gigs has got to be a fairly competitive line of work. I just can't imagine a production company or studio deciding that Len Wiseman is the guy they want to entrust the tens, if not hundreds, of millions in production and marketing dollars. They know they're getting a nominal product at best, with iffy returns at the box office.
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This could be worse.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 6 p.m. CST
If you want to continue the Steven Sommers CGI crapfest and you can't get Steven Sommers
by ZoeFan
Len Wiseman is the perfect replacement
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All they would need is one green-screen set!
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I think they're planning on doing this with their whole staple of monsters. React accordingly.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 6:06 p.m. CST
In the old classic Mummy movies they moved so slowly anyone could outrun them, so anyone who died seemingly had to be frozen in fear to one spot.
by Clio
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Len Wiseman is a horrible director and will continue to make mediocre movies. The Mummy movies are horrible so it's a good fit if you ask me!
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That is all.
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Imhotep didn't do a lot of chasing people in the original Mummy. After he was raised from his crypt, he disguised himself as a dealer in antiquities and was more of a behind the scenes player, using magic much like in the first Summers movie.
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He tends to be the writer of everything sci-fi in movies or TV, he completely cocked up Star Trek (yes it did make money and looked pretty but that doesn't mean that the writing wasn't total incomprehensible shit). I work in the technical end so my job is based on merit but how do people like Orci even get their foot in the door in this business? Anyway, I didn't mind the first couple Mummy films. They weren't high art but they at least were coherent story-wise. Which is not to say that the writing was brilliant but they had internal consistency for what they were.
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I think I'm going to get a lot of usage out of that phrase over the next couple of years...
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Sept. 24, 2012, 6:23 p.m. CST
I have an Idea, how bout making a SCARY film, you know? HORROR FUCKER!
by the Green Gargantua
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FACT
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Sept. 24, 2012, 6:25 p.m. CST
Sommers' movie also 'aped' *hehe* PJ's '96 Kong script
by performingmonkey
Just go read Peter and Fran's script and see how many elements were robbed wholesale for The Mummy.
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but as the saying goes, "good writers borrow; great writers steal." also, the new star trek (which I did like but recognize it has its flaws) was many things, but incomprehensible? I think that was the least of its issues.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 6:32 p.m. CST
Yeah,its all those people downloading movies,thats whats killing the industry............
by The_All_Dead
not all the shit they seem to throw at the screen to see what sticks.
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The dude must be crushing cans in his lovely hollywood studio apartment.
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They should do an old school, Hammer Horror-esq Mummy film again. Instead, with Wiseman at the helm, it'll just be another "action" fest, with Kate Beckinsale playing the girl the Mummy is lusting after (but who could blame a fellow for that).
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Sept. 24, 2012, 7:02 p.m. CST
Kate Beckinsale in endless slow-mo CGI Mummy asskicking
by Adam D. Kline
Just shoot Wiseman now please, thanks
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Sept. 24, 2012, 7:02 p.m. CST
How many flops does Wiseman have to make before they get the picture?
by Logan_1973
For fucks sake...this guy hasn't proven anything. Normally I can get on board with a remake or reboot providing they have something fresh to bring to the table; I admit the scientific grounding angle is intriguing but Wiseman does not give me much confidence.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST
Will BobOrci weigh in on Beaks' backhanded compliment/not-so-subtle dig??
by iamnicksaicnsn
I didn't hate Live Free or Die Hard. And I definitely didn't hate the new Star Trek.
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I was referring to the blatant plot holes and just general shitty writing. So it wasn't comprehensible in that you didn't know what was going on but the writing was so bad and so many things didn't connect logically or was simple deus ex machina that the film while pretty, was a mess. And these people get paid a shitload of money to write these movies, for a series they know nothing about.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST
Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci must suck a lot of cock in Hollywood.
by scriptgirl_nipples
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Hollywood really needs to grow some balls and get into some other properties. There are tons of novels that deserve a chance to make it to the theater. Hell, I'd kill for a movie adaption of the Dresden Files. One that doesn't have the SyFy channels fingerprints all over it.
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Len Wiseman is the new Paul WS Anderson and the less said about Orci etc the better.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
I don't think any of Wiseman's films have flopped besides Total Recall.
by Randy
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I mean look how Start Trek turned out. The talkbacks were about the same as this. Len is a good technician he just needs to understand visuals are weak without emotional backing. Although he's been making movies for a long time so I dunno. I like the Summers mummy movie it just didn't have much to do with a mummy.
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Kurtzman/Orci/Star Trek: liked it a lot. Fun. Too many coincidences. Eagle Eye fun but had a big Computer Eye at the end on a crane, dumb. Cowboys & Aliens, predictable story. Sommers: Holy Christ, keep him away from movies. I think he invented the bad CGI establishing/swooping shot. The Mummy movies still some of the worst in the last 20 years. Wiseman: Somehow doesn't live up to his name, in fact quite the opposite. Should be Len Cluelessman. Great visual instincts, but should do only commercials Michael Bay, wouldn't understand a true emotion or human moment if it emotionally bit him on the emotional ass. Me: Genius...
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Her next round of plastic surgery goes horribly wrong.
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above: *but like Michael Bay,
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Sept. 24, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST
Hollywood still doesn't get it. They just had the worst summer box office in over a decade because of remakes and reboots
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Sept. 24, 2012, 8:34 p.m. CST
Len Wiseman is a better director than Sommers, the Mummy movies are shit
by JackSlater4
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Sept. 24, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST
So. I wanna make sure I understand this right... is it cheaper to do a remake versus a fresh concept? Or is this all about reducing RISK?
by Astronut
There must be HUNDREDS of awesome books out there, past and current-day, that would make for great cinema. I mean we get the same crap over and over and over again. That's why -- even though it is not perfect -- I still applaud Ridley Scott for doing PROMETHEUS. I'm serious. I just watched that film for the third time, I downloaded the rip the other night. It's a good flick despite having several issues. I love me some original sci-fi and whatnot. I know millions of people think the same thing. God, Hollywood... wake up. Give us some fresh ideas.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST
Sorry, got my sources mixed up. Kate Beckinsale isn't playing The Mummy, she's playing The MILF.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Boom tish.
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I watched the first one after hearing how great it was and i could not believe how on earth people liked that shitfest. The second was even worse and let's not talk about the 3rd one.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST
Wiseman is a lapdog, a yesman, a servant of the studios.
by Jack Black
he will make exactly the movie that the suits want, that's why he will keep finding work in Hollywood. Wake up guys, this is the new, corporate Hollywood where everything is sacrificed for the achievement of maximum profit. And you, the audience, are as responsible for this situation as the studios themselves.
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That's it, that's all. young studio execs loving the fast lane, needing to rationalize to their bosses. if it works, they're geniuses. if it doesn't, "Hey, it was a success the first time, it's so and so's fault, not mine." Stockholders can blame them slightly less, risk was properly leveraged against prior returns. Rinse, repeat. Fear and money, not good combos.
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We'd already seen everythIng It had to offer In the earlier Alien movies and Mission To Mars.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 9:25 p.m. CST
Yeah, that Star Trek movie was almost as stupid as...
by menacingphantom
every episode of the original series. I love the original series A LOT, but OMG the plot holes and stupidity! A planet of Nazis! Sure! Of course! Not to mention an "old west" planet! Right? Of course!
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Sorry.
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Gimme a piece o' the action you wise guy!
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Okay, yeah! Duh!
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Of course! Harcourt Fenton Mudd you listen to me!!!
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Except when he's super horny! You know, from a hippy flower allergy or "amok time"! Totally makes sense.
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For some holo-tennis?
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Although, even Crichton's later works weren't quite as arresting as what he'd done earlier. Be that as it may, I've always modeled my writing style, when I have time to actually sit down and knock out a story idea...after him. Often without realizing it. One of the most influential writers of the last century, certainly when it comes to science-thriller. Anyway....I think we all know by now that Hollywood is not going to stop until every single marketable idea has been remade twice and nobody is paying to see the shit anymore. So...you know...maybe in another 10 or 20 years we'll start seeing original concepts again.
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Sorry, this is just...well, you know. Whatever, man. Their money.
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...that you're a writer, or who you 'emulate' when you write. I'm sure every single person making comments on this site, considers themselves a writer. We don't care. Go write your shit and try and sell it, don't announce it to the rest of us. That's what our doting grandparents/significant others are for. Sorry, but I can't stand when people drop personal shout-outs of "Look at me, I'm an artist too" when they should just be passing on their opinions about the topic at hand.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 9:55 p.m. CST
I hope that mummy rams his dead taped cock up Kate's perfect british twat
by Pierre
How does Wiseman get work? He is terrible.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
I actually think the first Mummy is a pretty perfect Action-Adventure throwback. Bad CGI? Of course. Still a better Indy movie than Crystal Skull was.
by kidicarus
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Battlefield Earth is almost a better movie than Indy and the Crystal Skull.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST
ANYWAY....In actual cool news: Did you faggots check out the latest Hobbit Trailer?
by Emperor
Do a google search and enjoy. :-)
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I don't know how to process this.
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.... then that's all that matters.
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Alot of fun if you ask me, after that they stink, but the 1st one (which really should have been cut into two movies) is fun, typical 90's swashbuckler but better than almost any "wanna be pulp" since rocketeer until captain america. I still watch it often.
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Sept. 24, 2012, 11:52 p.m. CST
IS UNIVERSAL RUN BY TOTAL AND COMPLETE DROOLING IDIOTS?
by Mike Soiseth
Unbelievable. You've got the great CLASSIC monsters in movies that were marvels for their time and you shit all over them. How fuckin stupid do you have to be? Yes, they are stupid AND massive assholes as well. Cant wait for their 'Creature' movie-that is going to be suckage such as we've never seen. Please, Universal, show some fucking respect and get some real talent to back these pics or DONT DO THEM AT ALL!
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Sept. 24, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST
Yeah, that's the director you choose. Len Wiseman. *Snerk
by locater16
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Sept. 25, 2012, 12:04 a.m. CST
Total Recall was entertaining. The script held it back, in fact the directing elevated the script.
by Charlie
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Sept. 25, 2012, 12:11 a.m. CST
Anyone see how hot Kate Beckinsale looked in white panties in Total Recall?
by BIG_BAD_WOLF_IN_CAPS
I started whacking off right there in the shitty ass Regal RPX theater!
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Sept. 25, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST
*average, unambitious filmmaker* and *nice, smart guys who tend to make massively uninteresting movies*
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
Beaks, you absolutely nailed it!
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...why do you rock so average?
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Couldn't stop reading till the end. I think that would make an excellent movie!
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In *The Mummy: Tomb Of The Dragon Emperor* (yes, agreed it was a crappy movie) it was reveiled that Evy and Rick worked as spies for The Allies. Do that, make an acton, spy flick set in the 1940s, it could even be supernatural. Why not?? Lots of people were saying the first movie was like Indiana Jones, embrace it.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 1:36 a.m. CST
Please,Sommers was more like "Abbott & Costello Meet The Mummy"
by Kenny8
Will we ever see a scary take on a classic monster again? More crap to base a ride on
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Studios prefer harmless.
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Ooooo .. Uncle Len is allowed to make anodda mooovie ... come on! The Sommers remake (first one, the others do not exist ...) was good fun, never claimed to be more and had a great cast. What now? Len's wife going to be the next Rachel Weisz? Or Nefertiti? Bruce Willis playing Imhotep (Ippi-Ho-Mey, Muffamakka?)? Everything will be drenched in the Wiseman-Palette of colours (mostly cold blue) and the Mummy will do wire-fu. Mr. Wiseman, sir, you making this movie IS a darker twist AND a very scary version, just thinking about it! Universal? Leave those old monsters alone! They've done their job to create you stupendous amounts of money. Put them to rest so they will be remembered as the nightmares they deserve to be. Wolfman (with Benicio Del Toro no less!) was a mess. Not to mentioned the piece of junk that was Van Helsing. Have you no heart!? Sorry for my English, folks, not a native speaker.
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With all the monsters Universal has, why continue with the Mummy? The last one sucked donkey dick and the first two didn't really had that much to do with the mummy himself. The Wolfman had potential and it left room for improvement. What about a PHANTOM OF THE OPERA! But with Kurtzman and Orci my interest had gone down to zero. How the hell do guys like these keep getting work?!?!
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Making tripe, I'll never be dumb enough to watch one of his movies again. I'm sure Beckinsdale is a good actress, I just wish she'd appear in less Wiseman movies and more good ones. Perhaps Paul WS Thomas and himself are in some sort of suck ass movie club.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 2:30 a.m. CST
Len Wiseman is on of those directors I just pretend doesn't exist.
by positivelySlime
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Your chastising of WColbert for mentioning he likes to write as a bit of attention-getting "Look at me!" behavior and saying he should only share his opinion and that's all comes off as a bit ridiculous. Why? Because that's all these talkbacks are. They're ALL "Look at me!" statements, so who cares if he mentions that when he writes he likes to think of Crichton? Its a little bit of an angry overreaction methinks.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 2:45 a.m. CST
What's wrong with Hollywood in 25 words or less:
by No Respectable Gentleman
Universal hiring Len Wiseman to direct their latest reboot of THE MUMMY. The film will be produced by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci and written by Jon Spaihts
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Shooting a movie and it's reboot/remake back to back. I hope this industry will collapse soon like videogames in the 80s.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST
Thing is, guys like Wiseman and PWS Anderson would make great 2nd unit directors
by DexterMorgan
They don't know how to tell stories or deal with actors, but they can both shoot action really well. Just a shame these guys get to steer whole projects along instead of taking orders from talented directors.
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This whole group just needs to fuck off.
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And of those, the less insulting is Wiseman for me, suprisingly enough. Wiseman never made a great movie, but he hasn't made one that has been terribly insulting either, even this needless "Total Recall" remake included. And he keeps putting his wife in his movies, which i have no complain about. And Orci and Kurtzman are trying a scientific angle to the Mummy story? Since when this guys know anything about science? Orci believes the univese has a center and the Earth is it, for Christ's sakes! I'm almost wishing this movie gets made so i can laugh at the ludricous nonsense they will come up with.
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Where you get paid millions to make movies where all you have to do is blow stuff up real good, proper scripts be damned, and are married to a hot actress.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 3:55 a.m. CST
But then again, i never saw Wiseman's Die Hard movie, so there's that.
by albert comin
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I can think of a few more that could join that list of yours. We should make a survivor style show where all the worst hacks of Holywood are sent in a desert island without food and they would be forced to eat each other to survive. Kinda what they already do in real life in holywood, only more explicit. And the winner would get to live for the rest of his life on the island making movies with coconuts and the bones of the people he ate.
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All the probems in "Prometheus" were due to the changes that Damon Lindelof did to Spaihts' script, so there's that.
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He's a director who does what the studio wants and produces an average movie that follows the formula of action every ten pages of script and will have a bunvh of trailer moments. If given the chance could he make an interesting, original movie... Probably not. Wiseman, Anderson, Sommers, Ratner, Bay, Cohen and numerous other directors rather cash the big paycheck and make an average movie that does enough tentpole business to get them another gig. I'm not saying they need to make art movies, but you can make a blockbuste that isn't garbage. I find J.J. Abrams annoying as hell and his movies try to be better than they are, but at least he tries to make a solid movie. He acts like he's Spielberg 2.0, which he's not and his obsession with lens flares is annoying, but at least he tries to be better than he is. The reason 80's movies are good is because directors were allowed to make original films. There is a place for remakes, sequels and adaptations. But remaking every 80's movie is getting out of hand. They're going to remake The Flamingo Kid. There isn's an outcry for a Flamingo Kid remake. Most people won't even know it's a remake. But I also don't trust most of the directors mentioned above to make a good, original film, so like them waste their time on mediocre movies.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 4:11 a.m. CST
hollywood cannot complain about losing money at the box office
by walt
when they keep giving work to wiseman, who is only interested in keeping his wife working so he can continue to get laid
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Sept. 25, 2012, 4:17 a.m. CST
Starring Colin Farrell as Brendan Fraser and Kate Beckinsale as Rachel Weisz with Bryan Cranston as The Mummy.
by Mr. Pricklepants
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Sept. 25, 2012, 4:20 a.m. CST
kwisatzhaderach said it best. Fuck these lazy hacks who have ruined cinema
by Larry_Sanders
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Sept. 25, 2012, 4:34 a.m. CST
Wiseman is the most talented, creative and visionary director ever.....
by Ross
Not! www.kingbossdesign.com
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I think Wiseman is small potatoes, too small to be the posterboy of what's wrong with today's Holywood. I think there's far more pernicious influences and better examples of the sad state of affairs that plagues Holywood today, and one of them could be the guy who you happen to be so forgiving about. Wiseman is the kind of guy that if he ever suffers a major flop his career in big Holywood blockbusters dies on the spot. He's no biggie. He's just a trusted workhorse, not the malificent head of an evil conspiracy of hacks.
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Count me out unless whats-her-name gets naked.
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I too just hunted down the PASSENGERS screenplay online. It's actually pretty good, well-written. Apologies to Mr Spaihts. And here I was half-blaming you for the PROMETHEUS script.
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Hate Sommers all you want, but the first was one is just good old campy fun.
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I walked out on the second Mummy.
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why? i mean why would you want them to do it again? last time out they considered Keanu Reeves to be the best actor for a key role. that the film was salvaged by the presence of Hopkins and Oldman was a fluke. do not let them have another go at casting Dracula characters, fuck's sake.
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First Paul Anderson...now Wiseman. They produce fun, entertaining if not the most mentally challenging movies. Blaming Wiseman (and he shouldn't have accepted the gig) on Total Recall failure is off the mark. The movie would have tanked regardless, simply because NOONE wanted to see Total Recall made. Compare AICN's fawning take on PREDATORS (one big borefest) because it had Robert Rodriguez as producer compared to the build up of AVP (Anderson and by far a better movie). This constant non-objective bashing for directors who arn't in your club just makes the site look silly. And yes let's not mention Harry's INCEPTION review again...oh wait I will.
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How can this conspiracy nut-job continue to get work? Not only that, but he's an idiot for thinking Big Bang Theory is religion. I wish Hollywood would hire smart screen writers.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST
I enjoyed the first Mummy movie, and by that, i mean the 1999 movie.
by albert comin
It's a silly movie, but it's in good spirits. I'll never mistake it for a great movie, but it's mostly harmless. And i have the same opinion for the sequel, but that might be because Rachael Weisz is so utterly totally hot in it. Weisz is an interesting case, when she was in her 20s she was a cute girl next door type girl. But when she hit the mid 30s and now in her early 40s, she became a total utter sexy bomb gorgeaus babe. Her beauty multiplied tenfold. How did that happened? And why can't that happen with every women? Well, similiar thing is happening with Rose Byrne too.
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I have heard so many times before coments about Mr Harry Knowles's "Inception" review. What happened in it?
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and not WIZARD OF OZ prequels or SPIDERMAN movies.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST
With Benckinsale's involvement we are likely to get a sex scene between her and the Mummy.
by Pat
This will involve the Mummy gyrating his mummified junk on her belly button of course.
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It's not so much the review. More the length of it. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46142
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You completely missed the point of Bob Orci's argument about the Earth's position in the universe on the Copernicus talkback. He was making note of the fact that some astrophysicists make the claim that our position in the cosmos is at or near the universe's center---and comparing it to the tera-centric arguments and philosophies of the middle ages. In short, he was equating modern science with old out-dated religious dogma. I don't agree with his position, but at least let's not falsely represent it.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 7:47 a.m. CST
scirocco, Harry's INCEPTION review was perfectly reasonable
by Spandau Belly
It's probably the best writing he's ever done. Just to be clear: I like INCEPTION, I think it's a good movie, but I think Harry's reasons for finding it underwhelming were perfectly legit. He basically said that the dream world wasn't surreal enough. It was just a bunch of sterile skyscrapers and city streets that look exactly like real life. He also thought the main characters weren't likeable or interesting because they were just corporate lackies. And this is true, Nolan threw in the whole thing with Leo needing to pull of this job to see his kids again to get the audience invested. Audiences probably wouldn't have been as invested in the movie if it was purely a film about one rich dude hiring some saboteurs to mess up another rich dude's company. Also, I find it silly that c0ckles thinks this site is anti-Nolan because of Harry's underwhelmed reaction to INCEPTION. Every other reviewer on this site fawned all over INCEPTION. I think several of the reviewers here even named it as one of the top movies of its year. It wasn't until THE DARK KNIGHT RISES that this site gave Nolan a hard time, and he deserved it for that one because TDKR was a lousy movie.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST
How the fuck does Wiseman get employment??? His movies are SHIT!!!
by 5secondfuse
He's NEVER directed anything even half decent. The Underworlds are shit. Die Hard 4 is an abomination and Total Recall proves that remaking Arnie Classics is a BIG NO NO. The guy has zero talent or creativity no matter how much $$$$$$$$$$$ are thrown at the budget. The 1st Mummy Movie is still a fantastic popcorn movie despite what anyone might say. It's perfectly cast and the characters are great. In fact it combines action and comedy the way Kingdom of The Crystal Skull failed so miserably. Even Sommers Deep Rising is a fucking blast. Wiseman is just a talentless hack director with no ideas of his own. One day Hollywood will emerge from a coma and realize they're pissing away millions of dollars on this poison director.
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Hammer's 1964 "Curse of the Mummy's Tomb". Even better than the 1959 "The Mummy" with Christopher Lee. Favorite line by the wonderful Fred Clark, "I don't know who you are, mister, but don't kid around about it!".
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"He was making note of the fact that some astrophysicists make the claim that our position in the cosmos is at or near the universe's center" Any astrophysicist who would claim such a thing as there being a center of the universe is a make belief one. No real astrophysicist would ever say that, ever! If Orci claims there's such men of science making such claims, he is either terribly mistaken or he's listening to pseudo-science con-men. Either way, he's wrong. "he was equating modern science with old out-dated religious dogma" Which explains the constant nonsense passing as science in "Fringe". Orci is quite an ignorant man in anything that has to do with science, i'm sorry to say.
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I just saw it recently and it still holds up.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST
They should remake Abbott And Costello Meet Frankenstein
by rev_skarekroe
With Ben Stiller as Abbott and Seth Rogen as Costello.
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"He basically said that the dream world wasn't surreal enough" I have seen this complain before, and i have to say, those who sponsored it must have not realise the basic concept of the movie's take on vising the dream world. In "Inception", the whole thing is about industrial spionage. Which is done by the infiltration of the subconsicous. And the main thing about this infiltrations is stealth. Or to put it in another words, it's imperative that the mark is never aware that he has been infiltrated, and it's imperative for the infiltrators to not make the mind aware that there is something more, something foreign in it. The movie treats the mind's reaction to an outside infiltration as if it's the body reacting a bacterial infection by producing antibodies. So, to avoid triggering a counter-reaction, the infiltrators need to not alarm the mind, to treat it all as business as usual. and how's buysiness as usual? Simple, as if you are awake. The point being, for the mark to not even be aware he's dreaming. So that there's nothing unusual to call attention to the fact they are dreaming. So that when they wake up, there's nothing memorable that happened in the dream that makes the mark recall it. If some sureal element happene din the dreamworld, then there would be a chance to the mark be aware and react, and then even remember that he had been extracted. Or in the movie's case, incepted. Also, remember, that in the movie, the dream world seen in the movie is not of the marks themselves, but of the architect of the dream. Basically, the mark's mind is tricked into being in the architect's dream world, where they have control. I think that most people who criticise "Inception" do so either because they failed to notice an or some important elements of the movie's own universe it created, or they flat out refuse the premise. Something can be done with the first, but i don't think much can be done with the second.
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Who knew Brendan Fraiser could do action. I loved that movie, the sequel was ok would've been better without the kid and reincarnated egyptian daughter but outside of that it was still good.
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They did this in 82, it was awful and called Time Walker with Ben Murphy... Why bother with all these remakes as movies? It just seems dumb to me when a Mummy/Dracula or Frankenstein HBO series seems a complete no brainer. Putting these stories into 2 hours always fails but putting one over 20 hours would allow for all the shocks, thrills and allow for some real motivation other than "man in suit" or CGI chasing teens. You know Wiseman is gonna follow that formula... Oh and NO to Kate Beckinsale, man should be banned from casting his wife in every damn movie!
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me neither. wasn't alive back then.
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Good fun flick. Let 'em remake the Mummy all they want. Just stay away from Dr. Phibes.
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They do place us in the center of the OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0939630/ I literally just found this. Has anyone seen it? Any good? Sounds awesome.
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They place us in the center of the "observable" universe--but that term is subjective to your location, and your point of origin would always appear to be at or near the "center" no matter what your location is, but yeah, I think Orci missed that point and Copernicus was trying to explain it to him.
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That's a misconception. What they really mean is that due to the fact we can only observe the universe from one point of reference, meaning, Earth, there is a sphere, so to speak, of what we can see around. It's no different from you looking around and you can watch until the line of the horizont. But that doesn't mean you are at the center of the Earth. Same thing with Earth. We are not at the center of the universe, nor at the center of the observable universe, we are the center of our point of observation from where we observe the universe. The observable universe is just part of the whole universe. Therefore, no center. The notion of trying to put a center to the universe (which is in itself absurd) and to make it be our Earth is just an exercise in vanity of the highest order. It's the wrong way to try to make us look special for the wrong reason.
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But then, I like seeing terracotta warriors blasted apart with machine guns.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST
@Mr lprothro, i didn't noticed your second post! Ops!!
by albert comin
Basically we are in agreement. Copernicus' refutation was quite adequate and very correct, as it would do from an astrophysicist. But it looks to me that Orci didn't understood it, given his later reply. Orci's attitude toward science, it seems to me, is to collect stuff he deems cool but he doesn't care to actively understand what the concepts truly mean. Unfortunatly, he's another one of those who is helping perpectuate scientific ignorance, in his case by spreading pseudo-science nonsense with a veneer of authority through his works.
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Wtf is wrong with you guys? The first Mummy movie by Summers was hilarious! The second not so much, and don't get me started on the non-Summers third one. But Summers first Mummy movie is totally enjoyable.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST
Sommers reached his peak with the first Mummy movie, yes. It has all been downhill since, sadly.
by albert comin
But his Mummy (and to a lesser extent the second too) are quite enjoyable unpretentious adventure movies that so suceeded in catching a bit of the vibe left by the first two Indiana Jones movies... but not as well, of course, but then again, what could? "Van Helsing" was shit.
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Or who you do.
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Right--I was just trying to clarify Orci's position. He was confusing our concept of being at the center of the "observable universe" with being at the actual center of the universe itself and therefore attacking the theory as hubristic--when in reality he simply misunderstood the term. He wasn't however, positing that we actually are in the center of the universe. Getting back on topic, however--I actually loved the first Mummy movie and much of Orci's and Kurtzman's work (sue me!) and am eagerly awaiting where they take this project.
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I'm also eager to see what Orci and Kurtzman are going to do withthe Mummy, because i know it will be good for a laugh, as all their works are. And by laugh, i mean laughing at them and the stuff they do. And unlike what you say, in his coments he did come across as really believing that the earth was at the center of the universe. There was nothing in Copernicus' coments that in any way shape or from one could reach the conclusion, even by mistake, that he give any indication there a center to the universe or that idea has any acceptability in the science community. How could Orci failed to see the obvious.... wait, of course he can, never mind.
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...Universal said NO to Clive Barker's pitch in favor of Sommer's CG KiddyMeal borefest and now this.
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didn't know about this. this must happen.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST
Not really fair for me to comment on Harry's "Inception" review
by jim
I tried to read it, but fell asleep (several times)
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He seems really knowledgeable and passionate about film in interviews. But his movies are such mildly entertaining fluff. He's got a really good movie in him, I know it. Maybe this is it? Or maybe not and he should get back to Roland Emmerich's art department.
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While you're at it let Michael Bay produce, and McG write the damn thing. This announcement is turning Stephen Sommers into an auteur.
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You've got the love story, perfect to suck in the Twilight crowd who are now old enough to see R-rated movies, ample opportunity for sex and nudity, set in the early 20th century, with some good, old fashioned mummy mayhem and murder.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST
Awe come on, man their new Hawaii Five-o is a lot of fun..
by lprothro
..may not be picking up any emmy's in the forseeable future but it's good entertainment. As for the Copernicus talkback--that's not how I remember the argument-- but it was several months back so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. As for this new Mummy film, if it has any "historical" flashbacks I hope they give us real North Africans this time. That was what was so great about the intro to Mummy II, in my opinion. It felt and looked very authentic seeing those armies of Tunisian extras running into each other like that. Now the rest of the film however...
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Seriously, best mummy story ever. And it ties in to the vampires and witches series with mentions of both.
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There's always one guy... No, people don't go off on digressive notes here about "when I'm directing like Steven Spielberg" or "When I script something the way Michael Crichton does." If they did, they would end up sounding like a tool. Which that guy did. And so will you, if you do it. This is a site for commentary on other people's work. If you want to talk about your own work, go make it, then we can all comment on it once said work has gone public. Otherwise it's a hollow, self-absorbed statement about something no one has seen or read.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST
Sommers, to me, has come off as a slightly more talented PWS Anderson..sharing a love of CG special effects and ripping off other films/directors.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
But I am curious about his adaptation of Odd Thomas, the first of the Dean Koontz series. I've always thought it would make a very good film, and Sommers' cast, Anton Yelchin, Willem Dafoe, Patton friggin Oswalt...sounds promising. I'm not ready to write Sommers off just yet.
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...in the scenes where Kate Beckinsale is doing somersaults in slo-mo while firing twin revolvers at the monster? The Mummy, in slo-slo-mo CG 3D, 2014! Wiseman, you fucking generic arse of a man!
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Sept. 25, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
This is perfect for Orci Cuntsman & co as well as Len Dumbman, saves them away from crapping all over quality material, keep at it shitfucks
by AllThosePowers
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Dude, i don't know how to break this news to you, but, you know, the ancient egypcians were not nubians. Nubians were nubians and egypcians were not nubians. The etnic make up of ancient egypt is very much like of today's, with a population largly composed of semite type people and the blacks are found in the very south near the Sudan border. As today as in ancient times. Egypcians of today are direct descendents of egypcians of ancient times. So, for all the things thodse movies did wrong about ancient egypt, that was not one of them. There was only one dynasty made of nubian pharaoes during the middle kingdom, and that didn't lasted for long and was quickly kicked out of the land, and the local royalty was restored. People who claim ancient egypcians were blacks are full of bullshit. That type of ignorance is no longer tolerated in this age of information. Also, Hawaii-Five-O is crap. A limp-wristed soap opera trying to pass as a cop show, and badly at that. A very hot american-korean girl do not a good TV show make, you know. And you bet your sweet jesus that crap will never win any emmies, that's for sure! And that's not an endorsement.
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You made a good argument.
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Straw man much? Who said anything about nubians? I said North Africans, which entails all of those groups. Go take a nap or something, man--damn!
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I think it very possible, and very possible that it will bomb, badly.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST
Hollywood: The only place where you can fail upwards!
by Just_Some_Guy
Your movie bombs? They let you make another!!! With a bigger budget!!! You just gotta suck alotta dick and kiss alotta ass to get to direct or write, and once you do you're set.
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I have been in North Africa. You can only find blacks if you are really into Sahara-wise. Otherwise, it's semites all over the place. I'm sorry if i misconstruct your coments, you are right to be anoyed if so. And what he bloody hell is man-damn? Does it bite? As for strawman, i do not have much use for that. I'm not Mr Orci.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST
Mummies ouside Egypt? That would be Mexico, China, Central Asia.
by albert comin
There would be other places too, but none is as spectacular as the egypcian mummies. It's not for nothing hat the egypcian mummies have caught the imagination.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 5:51 p.m. CST
How about Wiseman reboot Sommer's Van Helsing and cast Kate Beckinsale?
by Gary Makin
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Oh man, it happend some months ago, i'm not evne sure which, it was, i think, before the summer. It was one of those Copernicus "the science of" reviews he did, which movie i can't recall right now. "Prometheus", maybe, given Mr Orci's presence in the talkback. Though to be fair, i'm still not fully convinced that "boborci" is the real Roberto Orci, despite the assurance from various people of AICN. While boborci is convincing as Orci, there's something just a bit off about him that prevents me to fully believe him. Which makes all i said above about the man a bit sketchy. If boborci really is Mr Orci, then he's quite a piece of work.
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You're Asimov lives aren't you?
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It was in the "science of the Avengers" talkback. I still have to respectfully disagree with Mr. Scirocco on what Orci was actually arguing about, though.
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