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Annette Kellerman From Fantastic Fest 2012: DREDD And FRANKENWEENIE!!

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Sept. 23, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST
"I rely on my comic book guys and gals to inform me as to whether or not the film is true to the text." um...why would you even care, if the movie was good?
by gk1
this is why as EXTREMELY progressive as I am, i strongly feel women can't properly review action/scifi movies.
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Sad because sounds like they made a good film. I will probably see it at the theater myself but clearly, I don't have much time to do so.
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...but let's hope it has the second life it deserves.
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folks,you'll love it.
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Sept. 23, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST
Crap, crap, crappity crap! (The box office, not the film.)
by Lord Albion
Shocking box office, which not only means no sequels likely to Dredd, but will it scare studios away from future Hard R comic book films - I am clearly thinking Deadpool here. Nuts!
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Sept. 23, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST
Maybe if Dredd develops a cult following, it'll still get a sequel in a couple of years.
by Gary Makin
I didn't even know it was out in the UK the first week; the advertising was so bad.
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I have a lazy eye - 3D doesn't work on me.
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Sept. 23, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST
Dredd was great and will be a success on Blu. 90% of theatrical audiences are morons.
by Quake II
People flock in droves to see the latest "girl possessed" PG-13 horror flick of the latest PG-13 disposable action film but a REAL hardcore film like Dredd will never bring in theater money. It's a cult film made for the home audience ala Robocop, Escape From New York, An American Werewolf In London etc. Plus US audiences are NOT risk takers. I would estimate that 75% of people in the US have no idea who Dredd is or what he's based on. Most probably think this is a remake of the Stallone film. Hopefully Dredd will rock the home market and that sequel could still happen (remember Taken did almost nothing in the theaters but made a ton of money on dvd, so now we have Taken 2). Dredd will find its audience but not in the popcorn-chomping, texting teenage, crying baby filled cineplex.
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Entertainment Weekely gave it an 83, Variety gave it a good review, NPR gave it a 95! and audience reaction is mostly great. The problem is that the average morn that looks up at marquee is NOT seeing Dredd. It's doing poorly because people are avoiding it, not based upon any word of mouth. I wouldn't be suprised if word of mouth after a week or 2 really HELPS Dredd find an audience. Remember, most people who post on this site are the minority of theater fans. We are lovers of cinema, we don't just "go to the movies".
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for Dredd in the UK, dunno what it was like in the US. It kind of needed better marketing in my opinion because the promos and trailers didn't really do a great job. Could they not get Urban and Headey onto a few shows ? I'm not even sure Jonathan Ross had anyone on and he's a huge comics / 2000AD fan...
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...is often a box office curse. The industry reaction to this film's weak numbers is interesting, considering the positive reviews. However, an increasing number of online reviewers are, themselves, fan boys. The film will succeed via rentals, I'm sure. The marketing, and 3D aspect, have really hurt its theatrical chances. I do think that it's time for the ComCon (or whatever it's called) frenzy to die down - it's not the best litmus test for a theatrical run, and the industry is finally coming to grips with that fact.
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Sept. 23, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST
I've seen Dredd twice now and loved it. I love adult comic books. Avengers just didn't appeal to me. I'm still surprised it did so well.
by batfunk
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It's just fun when a movie I like can be true to source material and still be a blast for the uninitiated.
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Finally, somebody did a dark, gritty, violent, stylized comic book movie right. Unfortunately, there have been so many lame ones (Punisher, Sin City, Max Payne, Constantine, etc. etc.) that audiences were probably wary. It's not perfect, but it's a great movie. Surprised at how little coverage it's been getting on this site.
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But it could'a been worse. My main problem was the rudimentary [to put it nicely] plot. Would it really have been so hard to come up with a few twists or surprises? Also, I know it's a departure from the comic, but I would have liked seeing Karl Urban's face for at least one brief moment. I'd watch a sequel, if it comes with an actual story...
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and fucking twice on sunday.
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In sixth place, comic book adaptation/remake Dredd bombed with just $6.3 million from 2,506 locations. That's less than one-third of Kick-Ass's $19.8 million, and only a little over half of the original Judge Dredd's $12.3 million (and that movie was considered a flop 17 years ago!). It's at least up on Shoot 'Em Up ($5.7 million) and about on par with April's Lockout ($6.2 million), though those comparisons suggest Dredd is on track for less than $20 million through its entire run. The audience was predominantly male (75 percent) and older (69 percent were 25 years of age or older) and they gave the movie a "B" CinemaScore. A 3D share is not currently available. Dredd's awful performance is the latest example of how the Comic-Con/online fanboy crowd just doesn't make up a large portion of the moviegoers in this country. The movie came out of its Comic-Con screening in July with tons of online buzz and very strong reviews, and it maintained a 100 percent fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes through at least its first 25 reviews (though it ultimately wound up at a more-reasonable 77 percent). As a result, the fanboy audience was very aware of this movie ahead of release, and anticipation seemed to be pretty high among this group as well. Ultimately, though, it's just not a big-enough group to drive strong business. For a good dissection of the hazards of targeting fanboys, check out this piece from earlier this year in The Hollywood Reporter.
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Sept. 23, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST
It's just not a big enough group to drive strong business.
by Nintendarth
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Sept. 23, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST
Repeat - it's just not a big enough group to drive strong business.
by Nintendarth
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Sept. 23, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST
in summary, it's just not a big enough group to drive strong buisness.
by Nintendarth
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Sept. 23, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST
Saw Dredd 3-D for the second time today. Love it. Fucking badass.
by Quake II
It really reminds me of Escape From New York, right down to the sets, villians and music....and that's a good thing. The theater was about 20% full and it was mostly males. I really think this will become a cult classic as it has all the ingredients (ignored in theaters, great characters, jaw dropping violence, cool tech, dark humor). And as the talkbacker about stated, I too liked it better than The Avengers. It has so many moments worth seeing again....the only great standout moment of The Avengers I remember is when Hulk smashed Loki.
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Fucking fantastic film. Shame no one is going to see it. Hope they make another...
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Sept. 24, 2012, 3:42 a.m. CST
I think the sequel should be called Dredd 2 Dredd and star Hulk Hogan as Rico Dredd...
by Chaffro
Why do you judge me, brother?
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Just another example of gradual death of geek influence on cinema. Can't take long until the people who make movies realise that self procalimed geeks (while noisy) are actually a very small demographic, a large portion of which never actually set foot in a cinema preffering instead to slag off movies they have never seen on messageboards and only see it when they illegally download a crap cam version online. These people don't deserve a voice.
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You'd think that this site would be championing DREDD like they did for Stallone's Rambo, but no it becomes a second tier movie to FRANKENWEENIE. This site has really bombed since Harry got in bed with the studios and Moriarty left.
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By recognizing that we're a small demographic, instead of living in the illusion that the world is friendly toward geek ideas, we can fight correctly, from the perspective of telling the mainstream media to go eff itself. We can't criticize the mainstream if we insist we're part of it, and essential to geek culture is that it put down the mainstream banality as much as possible. People who like only the mundane deserve to be mocked, to suffer the blandness of their own material. DREDD's failure, I guarantee, is causing all sorts of obscure comic book movie projects to screech to a halt across the globe. People are terrified of flops any more, unwilling to take risks. DREDD's failure shows why. DREDD is a failure. Repeat. DREDD is a FAILURE!
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Black and white kids' movie? Um, no. Disney is taking all the wrong kinds of risks again. They're neck-deep in BLACK HOLE territory. Remember what made you succeed. LION KING. BEAUTY & THE BEAST. LITTLE MERMAID. See any self-aware mockery, weird directorial choices/color stock or obscure art-house effort in any of that list? No? Okay then. Glad we had this talk.
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Sept. 25, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST
self procalimed geeks (while noisy) are actually a very small demographic, a large portion of which never actually set foot in a cinema preffering instead to slag off movies they have never seen on messageboards and only see it when they illegally downloa
by Nintendarth
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Sept. 25, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST
The upshot: "geeks ... are actually a very small demographic..."
by Nintendarth
In more ways than just one.
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Except NOT ONE SOUL who was uninitiated went to see it. hence, the total apocalyptic box-office failure of its performance so far.
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