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Herc’s Friday TV Talkback!! THE HOUSE I LIVE IN Director On BILL MAHER!! The Return of HAVEN!! The Premiere of SECRET PRINCES!! BOSS 2.6!! TOP MODEL!! More!!

Published at: Sept. 21, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST by hercules

The “Real Time With Bill Maher” roundtable guests this week are editor Rana Foroohar, talk-radio host Roger Hedgecock and news anchor Chris Matthews; “The House I Live In” director Eugene Jarecki and “Slammin’” Salman Rushdie are interview guests.

Were I King of America, I would legalize all drugs and disband the Drug Enforcement Administration. As the ratings for Adult Swim verify, the DEA is wildly ineffective at keeping drugs out of the hands of Americans, and U.S. drug laws merely allow drug lords to grow more rich and powerful because it allows them to charge more for narcotics.

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Fridays, July 20-Sept. 14, 2012
(Adults 18-49; repeats in gray; previous weeks in parentheses)
1.8 (0.9) (1.0) (1.0) (0.9) (0.8) (0.7) (1.0) (---) Shark Tank
1.8 (1.3) (1.0) (1.2) (1.3) (1.0) (0.8) (0.9) (1.3) 20/20
1.7 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Primetime
1.0 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Guys With Kids
0.9 (0.9) (0.8) (0.9) (1.0) (---) (---) (---) (1.2) Dateline
0.9 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Go On
0.8 (0.8) (1.0) (0.8) (---) (0.7) (0.8) (0.6) (0.7) Robot Chicken
0.8 (0.8) (0.7) (0.7) (0.7) (0.7) (0.8) (0.8) (0.9) WWE Smackdown
0.7 (0.6) (0.5) (---) (0.6) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (0.7) CSI NY
0.7 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Touch
0.7 (0.9) (---) (---) (0.7) (0.7) (0.6) (---) (---) Undercover Boss
0.7 (0.6) (0.5) (0.8) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Yukon Men
0.6 (0.6) (0.4) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Am Next Top Model
0.6 (0.6) (0.6) (0.8) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Bering Sea Gold
0.6 (0.6) (0.6) (---) (0.7) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (0.7) Blue Bloods
0.6 (0.5) (0.7) (0.9) (---) (0.6) (0.5) (0.6) (0.6) Bones
0.6 (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (0.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) Grimm
0.5 (0.4) (0.4) (0.3) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) Bill Maher
0.5 (0.5) (1.7) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) College Football
0.5 (0.4) (0.6) (0.6) (0.5) (0.8) (0.6) (0.6) (0.9) For Better Or Worse
0.5 (0.4) (0.4) (0.3) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) Lost Girl
0.5 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Ultimate Fighter
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (0.4) Ghost Adventures
0.4 (0.4) (---) (0.5) (0.4) (0.6) (---) (---) (0.5) Gravity Falls
0.4 (0.5) (0.4) (0.3) (0.4) (0.3) (---) (0.3) (0.4) House Hunters
0.4 (0.4) (0.4) (0.3) (0.4) (0.3) (---) (---) (0.4) House Hunters Intl
0.4 (0.5) (0.3) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) I Found The Gown
0.4 (0.5) (0.3) (0.5) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (---) (0.5) Say Yes To/Dress
0.3 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (0.2) Bret Baier
0.3 (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (---) (---) (---) (---) (0.3) Hannity
0.3 (0.2) (0.3) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (0.3) O’Reilly Factor
0.3 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Van Susteren

0.2 (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.3) Nikita

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  • Sept. 21, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    never even heard of the house i live in

    by jsfithaca

    looks good though. totally agree drugs should be legalized. hopefully this doc will help wake people up. also can't wait for boss!

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST

    The pointless drug war will never end

    by TheSeeker7

    For one thing, the pharmaceutical industry has WAY too much to lose by legalizing drugs, their all too powerful lobby would never allow it.<br> <br> But also, if the democrats tried to propose it, using... ya know, those ridiculous things called "facts", the GOP would be all over it painting the dems as weak on crime/drugs, and because the majority of Americans are dumb, the public would eat it up.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Like I always say, I'll take the Tea Party as genuine...

    by mjgtexas

    the moment they propose cutting the 15 billion a year Drug War budget at the top of their wasteful spending list. I'm sure Jay and Coughlin are with me on this.

  • the fucking hack is strong in Herc....

  • *Were I King of America, I would legalize all drugs and disband the Drug Enforcement Administration. As the ratings for Adult Swim verify, the DEA is wildly ineffective at keeping drugs out of the hands of Americans, and U.S. drug laws merely allow drug lords to grow more rich powerful because it allows them to charge more for narcotics.*--- what utter fucking, coddling bullshit. yea that will make the fucking drug addicts *better* addicts. they wont continue to be fucked up weak willed people. the crime, rapes, molestations, thefts etc. will ALL go magically away! u dont think the drug cartels wont make DIFFERENT and STRONGER drugs to combat the legal ones?? what utter fucking MORONS u idiot cry baby progressives are. utterly. fucking. stupid. BTW- seeker7 made a great point, even though he actually doesnt realize it. a think this sums it up... *i dont think that post meant what u thought it meant.*

  • ....all on a weekly basis. oh yea, and probably outright lie or distort some fact to fit his bigoted, hate filled hour. good times?

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST

    ^pig fuck^ but u people knew that...

    by jay2517

    edit function N-O-W!

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Great news for the Romney fans!

    by Hercules

    The former Massachusetts governor is tied with President Obama in Gallup's latest tracking poll of registered voters: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST

    I love seeing jay2517 get all riled up on these posts

    by PDepew2181

    Especially his constant insistence that Maher offends 95% of Americans. Are you the guy who, on a New York Yankees blog, called me "immoral" for once saying I liked Maher?

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST

    i'm all FOR LEGALIZING DRUGS!!!

    by Jared Parker

    too fucking expensive to fight.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 7:19 p.m. CST

    jay

    by Jared Parker

    i thought conservatives were about cutting wasteful spending. what's more wasteful than throwing billions of dollars into a war you're never going to win? felipe calderon spent 6 years of his presidency in mexico fighting a losing war against the cartels, and all it did was cost thousands of lives and a trillion in mexican dollars

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Drugs are fucking everywhere. EVERYWHERE!

    by Hercules

    The DEA is wasting our tax dollars accomplishing nothing. Except keeping drug lords weathier than the Romneys.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST

    totally agree Herc

    by Matthew

    end the drug prohibition today. people shouldn't be locked up in jail for smoking a plant. hard drugs users need treatment not prison, prison makes one better criminal, prisons have plenty of drugs anyway. police, prison lobbyist need drugs illegal because they get or make money off of the drug war/ prohibition. marijuana has health benefits, cancer patients being denied medical marijuana is morally wrong, alcohol is worse for your health, and causes people to drive or get violent. We have to decriminalize first, legalize marijuana, and give treatment and drugs to addicts. Non violent offenders who hurt no one but themselves shouldn't be in prison costing tax payers money. Ending the drug war/ prohibition is something liberals and conservatives can agree on which is a promising sign. I love and respect the police just don't think they should have to worry about keeping people from getting high

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 9:31 p.m. CST

    This panel is pretty funny

    by PDepew2181

    I think Maher should just let Matthews and that other guy (sorry, I didn't catch his name) go at each other. It will eventually turn into a cage match.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Bill Maher is an asshole but I'm starting to admire him. Why?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Because he turns AICN's resident partisan shill, Jay2517, into a foolish, raving drool-tard.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 12:41 a.m. CST

    pdepew2181- no, but u are immoral if u like the pig maher...

    by jay2517

    ....not too mention, insane.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST

    War on Drugs

    by MrLongbaugh

    I have no problem with legalizing marijauna. I don't believe in the gateway drug theory. I know lots of people who live normal lives and still smoke pot. Keep the hard stuff illegal. Coke, crack, heroin, etc....And yes, I am a Registered Republican.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 12:48 a.m. CST

    I agree with your post Phil Jackson is the Master of Zen

    by MrLongbaugh

  • fucking insanity. *i thought conservatives were about cutting wasteful spending. what's more wasteful than throwing billions of dollars into a war you're never going to win?*--- thats just it. we havent fought any war since WWII to WIN. that being said, u dont STOP supporting the right thing. BTW- tell that family that lost a member to drug use that their loss was *wasteful* and should just give up. u progressives and ur cowardice.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 12:52 a.m. CST

    mr. nice gaius- as usual, being a fucking imbecile...

    by jay2517

    ...if i was a color, it would be *unsurprised*.

  • ...so, he deflects and tries to get everybody talking about something OTHER than pigfuck maher. if u notice, he does it pretty much every week. he even done it twice in this tb. once with the idiotic drug bullshit and then with the Romney post. its sad...

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Jay - Hope you had a good trip

    by Paul

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Boss episode. Strong performances yet again

    by angry kitty

    Give Grammer his Emmys now

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Jay and the rest of the conservatives in here ...

    by Judge Briggs

    What cha gonna do when Prez Obama wins and the Dems hold onto the Senate?

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 7:51 a.m. CST

    Hey jay...

    by PDepew2181

    Thanks for answering my question. I'd still love to know where you get your 95% contention, but oh well. Also, thanks for calling me immoral. I'd rather be "immoral" in that sense than live in some kind of glass house and a be a holier-than-thou prick like you obviously are. Seriously, go fuck yourself. It'll probably do you some good.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST

    If you were a color, Jay?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    HA HA HA HA HA!!!

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Wrong again, Jay. The only reason Herc throws his jabs...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...is to stir the proverbial hornets' nest that contains you sad, little partisan shills. It's what's known as baiting for hits. And it works every time.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Well said mr. nice gaius

    by OutsideChance

    Way too many posters here, left and right. are Herc's little trained seals when it comes to the political troll threads.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Outsidechance

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Thanks. Good to see that others know what's up. (Jay2517 is a little slower than the rest of us.)

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    bad robot- some does, some doesn't - same as almost any other talkback

    by Michael Lunney

    Was there anything you wanted to talk about?

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 12:58 p.m. CST

    paburrows_rises -Fringe's first episode - almost no spoilers- check it out

    by Michael Lunney

    Fringe has a whole new lease on life by Charlie Jane Anders Here's our almost totally spoiler-free preview of the Fringe season five opener. So as you might already know, the final, 13-episode season of Fringe takes place in the dystopian future of 2036, which we glimpsed in last season's episode "Letters of Transit." The Observers have taken over the world, and are busy crushing the last vestiges of the human spirit with their bald-headed, well-haberdasheried psychic mind-fucks. The future's only hope is the Bishop family, who've been trapped in amber for 20 years and have a plan to defeat the invaders from the future. (Plus Astrid.) The big question mark hanging over Fringe season five was whether it could duplicate the dystopian intensity and excitement of "Letters of Transit" across 13 whole episodes — and based on watching the season opener, "Transilience Thought Unifier Model-11," I'd have to say it's looking good. The dystopian future looks just as nasty as it did the last time we glimpsed it, and the Observer regime is just as ugly and coercive — in fact, there are some new details added that make the Observers seem like even worse slavemasters than they did before. And the story of how the Bishops (and Astrid) fight back against the time-traveling invaders looks like it's going to give us a brand new mission statement, on the same level as "stop a war between two universes," the mission the team more or less completed at the end of season three. Based on the first episode, this is not going to be an easy fight, and there could be some serious heartbreak along the way. We get a down-payment on that sort of heartbreak in just the first episode. First and foremost, if you thought that John Noble completely owned your soul already, then he'll pick up just a little bit more of the title to it with this episode. Noble is in rare form as the tormented, totally psychotic Dr. Walter Bishop, and the closing moments of the episode might just wreck you a little, as Noble proves he doesn't even need to say a word to speak volumes. Fringe long ago settled into a comfy pattern* — most weeks, there would be a gruesome event in which someone died, and the Fringe team would investigate while Dr. Bishop made some inappropriate jokes and ate candy or pudding too close to the cadaver, and then in the end the gruesome death would turn out to be the work of someone who was doing unethical things for understandable reasons, like to save a loved one. And in the end, someone on the Fringe team would have learned an important lesson, that related to their own personal dilemmas or ongoing arc. And then occasionally, you'd have a full-blown "arc" episode, where there was no "case of the week." There was nothing wrong with any of that, except that it was starting to feel as though the "freak of the week" episodes were coasting a bit. So it's a pleasure to report that not only is the format totally gone out the window, so is any sense of coziness. The new season shows the Fringe team fighting a global occupation, by victorious forces that they barely know how to fight. And as a result, Fringe is more exciting than it's been since the two Olivias changed places. Huzzah.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    About the war on drugs and the TEA Party...

    by Immortal_Fish

    If you think that there aren't any conservatives that think the war on drugs should end, then you've deluded yourself. Every government agency could withstand a 10% reduction. Except for the military. They could withstand a 20% reduction. If that surprises you, then it's because you haven't been listening. Instead, you've willingly accepted the lies propagated by the media and others about the TEA Party. We believe in shrinking the size of government everywhere, across the board, and everything is on the table. Everything. And that includes the war on drugs. You're the ones that have been growing the size of government. Don't like how the government spends money on things like the war on drugs? Then be a part of the solution and stop feeding the beast.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Immortal_Fish

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Yet, you deluded yourselves by aligning with the GOP.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    immortal fish

    by jsfithaca

    while the tea party may want to reduce military spending, the people you elect don't. and jay so you think that family should be depending on the gvt to stop the kid from using? i thought conservatives didn't like gvt dependency? and also if anything they should send him to rehab, not jail.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 2:19 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by Paul

    Thanks a lot for sharing, I'm excited, I was actually kind of sad that they are leaving the old way of doing things since theres a number of storylines thats got dropped and will now never be picked up again (the guys going after Peter from his past in season 1, Peters debt to Nina and others) but this is going to be quite the rollarcoaster ride to an awesome finish. It reminds me of how JK Rowling toally changed things up for the final Harry Potter book with him not returning to Hogwarts and going on a full fledged search for the Horcruxes.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Immortal Fish

    by mjgtexas

    While I agree there are some Ron Paul disciples sprinkled among the Tea Party, I have concluded judging by large Facebook and workplace Tea party samples that the irrational suburban helicopter soccer mom and culture warrior view espoused by Jay have taken over the rank and file, hence me not taking them seriously. <P> It may make your day that I think the one group standing in the way of drug reform the most are prison guard unions, which is why I wasn't outraged much by Scott Walker's actions as most liberals.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST

    I CAN'T WAIT FOR FRINGE, EITHER!!!

    by Jared Parker

    going to be a fucking epic season!!! i don't really care if they go back to those old storylines or not, just give fans a great finish

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST

    pdepew2181...

    by jay2517

    *Thanks for answering my question. I'd still love to know where you get your 95% contention, but oh well.*--- if u cant understand that, then that speaks to ur common sense mentality. not surprised. *Also, thanks for calling me immoral. I'd rather be "immoral" in that sense than live in some kind of glass house and a be a holier-than-thou prick like you obviously are.*--- ur welcome. and im not *holier-than-thou*, just smarter than u. BTW- go fuck urself too :)

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST

    mr. nice gaius- idoicy in progress...

    by jay2517

    *.is to stir the proverbial hornets' nest that contains you sad, little partisan shills. It's what's known as baiting for hits. And it works every time.*--- and yet, here u are? ah the irony...

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Gaius

    by Immortal_Fish

    We weren't so deluded as to even bother trying to find footing in a party enforced by litmus test.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:11 p.m. CST

    poor obi.....

    by jay2517

    *If @jay85 was a color? Not surprisingly - He'd be white, like every other shit-stomping, inbred hayseed denizen of Flat Earth, USA*--- nice to see ur bigotry and hate are consistent. kinda like ur pig shit hero u idolize on HBO...

  • Why is it you seem to hate Maher so much more than any other left-leaning talking head? He's one of the few liberals who consistently complains about Obama's deficiencies and mistakes, and he routinely breaks from standard liberal ideology. (His discussion about Islam on last night's episode was a great example, though I found very informative Rushdie's take on the subject.) Maher makes many mature, rational observations with which I think people on both sides of the aisle would agree. Maybe you realize how "dangerous" and logical this makes Maher, and I've answered my own question ...

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    jsfithaca

    by Immortal_Fish

    Wrong! Again, either you aren't paying attention or you're swallowing media tripe whole. We hold who we elect accountable for their actions. And if they fail to deliver, we replace them in the primary. Some first-time incumbents from the 2010 sweep lost their House seat in the primary this year. And the people you elect want to reduce military spending *exclusively*.

  • *and jay so you think that family should be depending on the gvt to stop the kid from using? i thought conservatives didn't like gvt dependency?*---thats not what i said u fucking idiot. learn to read. the gvt is trying to STOP the drugs from coming in so they WONT have that option, thats a GOOD thing u spineless fuck. *and also if anything they should send him to rehab, not jail.* SURE! like thats been working out so fucking great so far, right? endless rehab stints. u fucking crybaby progressives. 3 strikes and ur in prison. thats what should happen. u have to draw the line somewhere. fucking cowards.

  • ...not that hard to comprehend.

  • Than it does with the historically puritanical mindset of American society. Sex (and homosexuality) has long been the primary enemy of the puritanical majority, but drug use is a close second. We're seeing the demonization of both quickly dissipate, and I have no doubt Obama will greatly relax both anti-same sex legislation and marijuana law(s) in his second term. It's glorious.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    mjgtexas

    by Immortal_Fish

    It's unfortunate that you've resorted to profiling, but I assure you we don't all measure up to those stereotypes. I for one think Ron Paul is absolutely batshit, yet I am pro-legalization of some drugs. And I'm not alone in this thinking within the TEA Party.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST

    good lord toe jam! dont be stupid (rhetorical statement?)...

    by jay2517

    *Why is it you seem to hate Maher so much more than any other left-leaning talking head?*--- i dont hate him. *He's one of the few liberals who consistently complains about Obama's deficiencies and mistakes, and he routinely breaks from standard liberal ideology.*--- So? doing the correct thing is not commendable. hes still a racist, lying, bigoted misogynist and coward etc. *Maher makes many mature, rational observations with which I think people on both sides of the aisle would agree.*--- u lost the whole argument with this bullshit statement. he is the antithesis of mature and if u think *people on both sides* agree with anything he says, ur a tool box of stupidity. really, YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT. go lay down...

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Jay2517 - I'll not mince words here...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...you're a fucking idiot.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Immortal_Fish

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    So, you're saying that you were too chicken-shit to go full-on third party? What a waste of the so-called "Ron Paul Revolution".

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Or John Bircher Society Revolution...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...whichever far-right movement is in vogue these days... (• snark! •)

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 6:25 p.m. CST

    I ony want to know one thing.... from either side of the aisle...

    by Michael Lunney

    Is the song *Tiptoe Through the Tulips* a sexual metaphor?

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    jay

    by jsfithaca

    key word in your post is trying. they're trying to stop drugs except its not fucking working. at all. and your delusional if you think it is. when the gvt spends my tax dollars on social programs, it goes towards helping people, which im okay with. spending money on the drug war however does absolutely nothing! so its pointless to keep drugs illegal. of course its a good thing to try and stop drug use but no matter how much money the gvt spends the drugs are gonna keep coming in. also you obviously can't read either seeing how i said IF ANYTHING they should go to rehab. yea it doesn't work a lot of the time but it works a hell of a lot more than jail.

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 7:06 p.m. CST

    tulips = two lips? I mean really....

    by Michael Lunney

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST

    jay

    by Jared Parker

    how much longer do you want to fight this pointless war? 10 years? 20? when is it going to stop? the right love to fight wars they can't win. korea, vietnam, iraq. fuck that shit

  • Sept. 22, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Glad to see you came back Jay...

    by PDepew2181

    ...I'd have hated for you to miss me telling you to go fuck yourself. Please never change since you provide me so much entertainment. Should Obama win re-election, I can't wait to see how well you don't handle that. I'd love to know how you think you're smarter than someone based solely on political ideologies, but I guess that's what it's like to be you. Oh, by the way......nah, it's too easy at this point.

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 2:27 a.m. CST

    i think i forgot to mention on this talkback

    by jsfithaca

    that fridays boss was SO FUCKIN GOOD! best of the season so far

  • Note that both years are the "cleaned-up" years since declaring candidacy for el presidente...

  • http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/21/1135108/-Did-Mitt-Romney-Aztec

  • FUCKTARD!!

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 12:15 p.m. CST

    mr. nice gaius...

    by jay2517

    FUCK YOU, DIPSHIT. u all mad cause i called out ur hypocrisy? get used to it.

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST

    jsfithaca...

    by jay2517

    so, by ur idiot logic, we must just give up on rehab, right? its *pointless* too. good lord, u progressives are insufferable....

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST

    jp1...

    by jay2517

    however long it takes. i guess u didnt read (not surprised) the part in my post where i stated we dont fight to WIN anymore. but, just to give up would be such a liberl/progressive thing to do. grow a spine.

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    pdepew2181...

    by jay2517

    ...u amuse me also.

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 12:25 p.m. CST

    DAMMIT! i got pwned by freaky again!!

    by jay2517

    when will it end??

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    jay

    by Jared Parker

    what's the sense in fighting a war if you can't win it? "let's keep fighting this endless game even if we have no chance of winning" is the new neocon message?

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Jay2517

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Mad?! How could that be when you've called out jack shit? Keep lying, loser. It seems to be the only thing you're capable of aside from wasting AICN's bandwidth.

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    jay when did i ever say that?

    by jsfithaca

    besides your the one who said endless rehab stints didn't work. i was merely saying it works better than jail, even if it doesn't work all the time. if your a drug addict of course i think you should go to rehab, i just don't neccesarily think the gvt should force them to go.

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST

    jp1...

    by jay2517

    *what's the sense in fighting a war if you can't win it?*--- thats just it, we need to START winning. fighting the war is and always will be the right thing to do. we just need to get these corrupt fuckers to WIN again, not give up like u. simple.

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST

    sure, gaius!

    by jay2517

    i can see the truth hurts. now, practice what u preach, and get off this talkback lol! BTW- keep go fucking urself :)

  • and rehab, in its current form, does not work. and jail works way better than rehab. consequences realized is the best method. a totally reformed rehab after to help. thats the reality. *i just don't neccesarily think the gvt should force them to go.*--- do fucking what? if u break laws, u have to to be punished. what world are u on man??

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 10:46 p.m. CST

    HA! Just what I've always known. You've got nothing, Captain Flail.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Nothing.

  • Sept. 23, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST

    jay if drugs are legalized they won't be breaking any laws!

    by jsfithaca

    double-checked my post didn't see anything about giving up on rehab. and i guess maybe jail then rehab could work, i hadn't thought about that. you need to break the addiction though to stop people from using drugs, and its easy to get drugs in jail.

  • If you knew anyone in law enforcement (as I do, since my family operates a non-profit charity that does work in some of the poorest neighborhoods in Philadelphia, the 5th largest city in the US - You know...place where people actually live, not Bumfuck USA, population 2,000 gun-clutching, cheek-clinching nimrods who've never traveled outside their home zipcode...) In fact, a great many law enforcement officers I've spoken with (minimally) support legalization of pot - FACT: When a kid is pinched w/ a dime-bag of weed, it costs the tax payer (typically) in excess of $1,000 to have that sample sent to a lab, so its contents can be validated for the case against the offender; not only that, but rather than being out on the job, the beat cop must dedicate job-time to running this type of bureaucratic leg-work. And don't forget the cost to you the taxpayer (unless you're part of Mittens' mythical 47%) to arrest, incarcerate, house, feed, try / defend (because often, these folks can't afford legal representation) some stupid kid all adds up. When you step up to hard drugs like cocaine & heroin, the savings you net from disenfranchising the powerful drug cartels & the money (in billions) the US flushes down the drain annually paying lip-service to yet another pointless war on a proper noun (think "Terrorism"), the savings is geometric

  • Sept. 24, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Jail works better than rehab?

    by Homer Sexual

    OMG, that is spoken like someone who has never actually known a jailbird. Jail is the worst. Rehab doesn't have stellar success rates, but Jail creates a prison culture and the recidivism is intense. A lot of them actually end up more comfortable in jail than on the streets. I use the term "comfortable" loosely here. Hilariously, I actually came here to say that Top Model, which isn't even mentioned except in the headline, has gone from being good, to being so bad its' good, to being a total trainwreck, to being really unwatchable now. Honestly, I don't enjoy watching it at all except to see how incredibly low the show has sunk.

  • Sept. 24, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    jsfithaca...

    by jay2517

    *jay if drugs are legalized they won't be breaking any laws!*--- good lord what an asinine statement. anyway....double check again.

  • Sept. 24, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST

    obijuanmartinez- keep that bigotry flowing...

    by jay2517

    ...not to mention ur idiocy. so, in all the SHIT u posted, its the laws that are at fault for the kid breaking the laws. what a fucking typical leftist statement. ur an utter moron. newsflash u dumb fuck, dont break the law.

  • Sept. 24, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST

    mr. nice gaius- just keep posting and proving me correct.

    by jay2517

  • Sept. 24, 2012, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Yet another flaccid, empty post by Jay2517.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    He just doesn't get it. Pathetic.

  • You may want to cover this tomorrow w/ Sis & your kids during home-school: A kid gets pinched for -$100 weed. The county then sends said weed to a lab for positive ID @ a cost > (that's a fancy learnin' symbol for "greater than", BTW...) $1,000 to the taxpayer (that's us - well, I can't speak for farm folk who sponge subsidies from the same gub'mint they decry, but I digress). That's fairly simple math even you kids at the shallow-end of the gene-pool should twig...and it doesn't even cover processing, incarceration, court fees, et al...that's A LOT of Mountain Dew for your children's breakfast, jay. C'mon. I think you're slowly coming around!

  • After his wife's plane was forced to make an emergency landing this weekend, Romney told the Los Angeles Times, he was worried for her safety: “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she’s safe and sound.” Let me handle that, Dr. Romney! 1) Opening a window (or windows) at high-altitude would depressurize the cabin, leaving passengers open to fatal risk for hypoxia 2) Oh, and Professor Fucknuts? Adding oxygen to a fire will in fact cause it to FEED flames, not make them go bye-bye. May want to keep this in mind when launching your "Open Windows on a Plane" initiative. God, this complete ASSHAT wants to be our PRESIDENT? http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-beverly-hills-fundraiser-20120922,0,2317962.story

  • Sept. 25, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Jay, you ignorant slut!

    by film11

    More proof (not that any is needed) that Jay is an ignoramus who doesn't know what he's talking about...He believes that coke is a "hard drug." BWAH-HA-HA-HA! He drank the Kool-Aid for sure...by the gallon!

  • Sept. 28, 2012, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Oh, so THIS is how the TB developed

    by Immortal_Fish

    You guys are going a LONG way toward dispelling Romney's comments about the 47%.