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INDIANA JONES 5 Is Entirely Up To George Lucas!!

The Kidd here...

I'm sure those aren't exactly the words you wanted to hear regarding any future adventures for our favorite archeologist. 

With the release of the INDIANA JONES: The Complete Adventures Blu-ray box set, it's once again reopened the debate as to whether we need or even want another Indy movie, following the debacle of CRYSTAL SKULL. Sure, it'd be cool to have Indiana Jones put on the fedora one more time, but not if it's going to turn out like the last one. We'll never be able to un-see that. 

It sounds like everyone would be game for another one - Harrison Ford, Steven Spielberg, even Karen Allen, brought back in the last movie (doubtful on Shia for another go-'round) - but it's entirely up to George Lucas whether or not it's going to happen... at least that's the company line being towed by Spielberg and now Karen Allen, who spoke to Movies.com, while promoting the Blu-ray release.

When asked whether or not a fifth movie might happen or even if she'd be game for it, she explained the only real way for it to proceed at all:

"I would! And I, in fact, just talked with Steven Spielberg recently - we e-mailed back and forth, and I said, 'What should I say? I'm doing this publicity, what should I say if people ask me that question?' And he said, 'It's in George's [Lucas] hands! I'm game, Harrison's game, and now it's up to George to write the script or to get the script organized, and the story.' And so I think it's - they want to do a fifth, from what I understand, but they don't want to do it just to do it, they want to do it if they can come up with a story that everybody is happy with and that everybody likes."

Isn't that what was supposed to happen with the fourth one though, too? They'd only make it if everyone liked where they were at...? What does that say about everyone's tastes heading into CRYSTAL SKULL?

I'm still of the mindset that a great Indiana Jones film does still exist out there in the world, and I'd love to see it happen, if, for no other reason than I don't want to see the franchise go out on the CRYSTAL SKULL note, but I'm not overly optimistic that can happen if Lucas is the true driving force on it. He may have the idea, but I don't want to see him write it... and then I don't really want to see him try to cobble it together based on a bunch of random ideas that he thinks are cool but don't really fit together. RED TAILS didn't really do much to restore confidence in his storytelling ability. I think he can be a creative voice in moving it forward... but he shouldn't be THE force... not anymore. I just don't know that he has it in him. 

 

-Billy Donnelly

"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"

BillyTheKidd@aintitcool.com

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  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST

    test

    by xega

    test

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Up to George to write the script....

    by Doggus47

    Yikes.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Well, Good Night Everybody

    by jasper Stillwell

    That's that then. Mind you, the action scenes in the last one were so CGI-heavy it was like watching 'Bedknobs and fucking Broomsticks'. I want to see a real man hanging off a tank goddamn it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    George

    by johnny_alpha

    You owe it to us all to keep the fuck away from this and give it to someone who cares about Indiana Jones.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Not much more they can do

    by Michael

    I love the Indy franchise and didn't think Crystal Skulls was as god awful as everyone else seems to, but it's hard not to see that film as a coda of sorts. You've got the reconciliation with Miriam, the handing off of the hat to Shia, a LOT of "old age" jokes from Ford, etc. It's like they really intended that one to be the last, and the only way to do a fifth is to say a lot of that fell apart or never happened, which is kind of the coward's way out. And I don't like it when people rag about someone's age, but honestly, it does get to be a bit ridiculous to see a 70 year old man trying to be a "swashbuckler". How far can you stretch credulity without breaking it? I'd reluctantly say, "leave it as it is". We've had our fun, now it's time to move on to other journeys and heroes.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST

    George Lucas, the writer

    by Finn

    Who are you calling an oxymoron?

  • They're digging Indiana Jones grave in 2012 to find the crystal skull.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    They need to approach it like Temple Of Doom

    by Lone Fox

    Stop reuniting everyone for "one last huzzah", and just have Indy spend the film solving puzzles, narrowly escaping death, all the while taking a solid beating from scenery-chewing bad guys. It's not hard. NO INTERDIMENSIONAL ALIENS, NO TREE SWINGING, NO GOPHERS, HOLD THE CGI. I don't mind fridges.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull was terrific. One more would be great

    by DavidBanner

    Do it George. Please! Thank you.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST

    As Darth Vader would say...

    by BirdieNumNum

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    ...following the debacle of CRYSTAL SKULL...

    by drompter

    Crystal Skull was not bad + It had good boxoffice numbers = The Kidd can go suck his own cock

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Ford is too old

    by Samuel Fulmer

    He was pushing it the last one, but if you've seen him lately, he looks like a 70 year old, which he is. The only way to do this is some kind of animated show where we see what Indy did during the 40's being a spy for the US, otherwise we'd either see a 70 year old Indy or God forbid a reboot/remake!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull

    by Ian

    wasn't bad at all. Sure it had silly moments, but what Indy movie doesn't?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST

    This headline gave me a heart attack

    by georgecauldron

    George Lucas should not be trusted with anything we love or even remotely care about.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST

    HAVEN'T YOU DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE GEORGE!!

    by ilovemichealbay

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    LEAVE THIS ALONE GEORGE

    by ilovemichealbay

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    AND CAN YOU RETIRE

    by ilovemichealbay

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST

    I LOVE HARRISON FORD, BUT HE'S DO OLD SORRY

    by ilovemichealbay

  • Another Indy film is dependant upon Lucas coming up with a new idea/story/Mcguffin...? NO SHIT!! That has ALWAY been the case... and it's been the case with a possible INDY 5 for more than a year now. Sheesh... to call this "news," cool or otherwise is a fucking stretch.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST

    HOW ABOUT HUGE JA

    by ilovemichealbay

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST

    HOW ABOUT HUGE JACKMAN AS A NEW INDIANA JONES IN DARE I SAY REBOOT?

    by ilovemichealbay

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Isn't George retired now?

    by UltimaRex

    Didn't he say something to that effect after Red Tails? Or was I just imagining/dreaming things?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Lucas has NEVER written the scripts for these things

    by StarWarsRedux

    And he's NEVER been the sole driving force, either. Other writers have gotten story credit on the films, and other screenwriters have handled the scripts. To blame Lucas alone for the percieved failures of Crystal Skull and for holding up a hypothetical fifth film is idiocy (especially when we know for a fact that Lucas had the ideas for the 4th film way back in the early 90's, only for it to take almost 20 damn years to get Ford and Spielberg on board). <p> <p>I hope there's a fifth film, too. I'm sure that whatever ideas Lucas supplies for the writers, they'll be cool. That's the way it's worked even for the ones everyone's gaga over. Why shouldn't it work again?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    by obijuanmartinez

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    People dislike Lucas with Skull because he wanted Aliens in it

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Ford and Spielberg were against it, but eventually caved in due to money and Ford's waning status in Hollywood after his string of flops from 2001-2007. I like Crystal Skull, but from what I've gathered the main issue with people that dislike it is the aliens.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Not one more red cent George Lucas!

    by SirLoin

    Not one!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST

    If you hated Indy 4...

    by tempurasan

    You would have hated every Indy film if you had seen them in the theatres when they were first released. The film was absolutely in the same vein and spirit as the other Indy films. The Fridge scene is in the same spirit as Indy, Willie Scott, and Short Round diving out of a crashing plane on a raft. They even went off a huge waterfall and survived that. The CGi used is in the same vein as using a backlit background. Who cares if one has a different fakeness than the other. It's special effects, you're supposed to take it with a grain of salt. Don't give me shit about the aliens either. Nobody fucking complains when Indiana Jones on 2 separate occasions basically confirms the existence of fucking God, and basically confirms the existence of Shiva. As far as I'm concerned, Aliens are much more fucking plausible than God. As far as the fucking "story" go, Indiana Jones was never about fucking story. The story is always about a goddamn MacGuffin to drive the action, and to provide a little context to strung together action scenes. What matter is the heart of the character, and the spirit of adventure, and Indy 4 has that in fucking spades. Then folks that watched that one dude's review try to give me this bullshit about how the new Indy is soft, and that he kills nobody. The fact that Indy is a murderer should never be contributing factor to Indiana Jones as a character. What makes him lovable and so fucking awesome is how reckless he is whenever he is a goddamn pickle. It just so happens that when that happens in the other films it results in death. In Indiana Jones 4, he has no fucking regards for human life. His main mission is to punch, shoot and crash his way out of a situation without a single plan. Let me list the instances: He fucking crash a truck head on to his partner that he has been on many adventures with. When he is captured on a truck, his first fucking instinct is to fight his way out, and grab a fucking bazooka. What sensible human being with regards to human life grabs the bazooka first? I could go on. So go ahead, give me your objections and I will show you specific examples on how Indy 4 is in the same fucking spirit as the other 3.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Reboot? My vote for Josh Holloway

    by SirLoin

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST

    but he shouldn't be THE force

    by ATARI

    I see what you did there. <br> <br> The midiclorians are not strong in George. <br> <br>

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Compared to Red Tails Crystal Skull looks like Raiders

    by Samuel Fulmer

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST

    How about and Indy and Jar Jar team-up????

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Panaka.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Alright George! The ball is in your court. Let's do this!

    by palpeedude

    I am pumped for another Indy film. Come on George... make it happen Cap'n!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Follow the "Rocky Balboa" model

    by amrisharmpit

    If for no other reason, they should do it for the same reason that Sly did his 6th Rocky - to make up for the previous sequel and to give the character a proper farewell. It also means the film should have very little connection to what came before. No Mutt, no Marion, nothing. It should be a stand-alone movie.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    by David

    Should be set a year before Crystal Skull (like ToD was set a year before Raiders). No Marion, no Shia, and please no CGI!!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Instinct told me not to watch crystal skull... I'm so, so glad I didn't.

    by Aiden Blackwell

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    To me the opening scene of Skull was the best part of the film

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Fridge Nuking and all (well maybe not the CGI gophers, but everything else). My biggest complaints with the film are the terrible framed photo of Henry Jones Sr. in Indy's office (did he get that for being a member of the Lucasfilm fanclub circa 1988????), there were way too many useless characters that took away from Indy's screen time, and the whole end part in the temple was rather boring.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Come on, it wasn't THAT bad

    by Flutchy

    actually I quite liked how they caught the 50's vibes

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    to the dude with the love of Caps Lock and Exclamations!!

    by Chapeau

    Shhh.... just cos you type in 'Caps' doesn't make you right. fact. Which fool would say, they'd prefer to watch a reboot of Indiana?!...oh.LOL!! It wouldn't be Indiana now would it. Harrison Ford is Indiana and the only person to play that title, no matter what age he is. People make a similar themed movie, and call it something else. and if anyone enjoyed Crystal Skull, so be it. who am i to tell them what they can and can't like. fact.

  • Don't bother mentioning Graffiti, Star Wars, Empire or Raiders because although Lucas might have been the idea man on those, it was the peope he worked with who helped make them great. Do you know why Empire and Raiders are masterpiece's? It's because Lucas had very little to do with both as he was stretched soo thin between both projects while also fucking with his corporate bullshit at the time. But you'll notice that with Jedi/Temple onwards Lucas was incapable of making anything decent because he had gotten rid of the people who steered him in the right direction; Marcia Lucas, Gary Kurtz etc....). Everything post Raiders with Lucas' name on it has been trash. Oh and despite his BILLIONS he still can't seem to get those experimental movies made, you know, the ones that he could have done at any time over the three decades with his vast fortune. George Lucas is a fucking FRAUD and he's proved it with every new piece of shit he's squatted out of his fat ass over the last 30 years. Fuck him and his fuck his flannel shirts that he used to cover his fat fucking turkey neck that jiggles everytime he looks at his bank account and thinks of you fuckin suckers who swing from his cock with your mouth.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull > Temple of Doom

    by captr53

    Fact

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull was 50% great

    by MustGoFaster

    It was my 2nd favorite summer film of '08 (not saying much but...). The opening (minus the fridge) was great, there were lots of nice moments here and there. Everything good came from Spielberg, everything bad came from the shitty script. If they do a fifth they have to lose Marion and Mutt. Just have Indy continuously get the shit beaten out of him and thwarted at every turn. It's not hard.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Annnnd, cue the bitching....

    by Gabba-UK

    I'm getting out of here before people have starting aneurysm's about something that really may or may not happen and up to them if they see it or not, i.e. in the grand scheme of things, not worth the effort.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    It's up to GL? OK so I rather not have it.

    by Ricardo

    End it already. Please.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones 5: So Very Tired

    by MoistMuskyCamelToe

    I cringed when I heard the fourth was being made, and I cringed when I saw it. It's just disheartening to watch Ford struggle with such a physical role, and I will never forgive Cate Blanchett for her terrible accent. One through three were just fine as a story arc, thank you very much. Leave well enough alone. I like my Indiana Jones suspended in time, young, energetic, risque, moving within a world of secrets and mystery. Showing him as an aging man with parental difficulties just breaks the metaphor.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    So this article is basically this....

    by kongoman

    They should do it. But then again they shouldn't do it. It would be cool it they did it. It would suck if they did it again. Last time we said they should do it. When they did finally do it, we decided that they shouldn't have done it. Yeah George, do it. Dammit George, don't do it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST

    indiana jones vs die hard

    by DarthBlart

    the indy series is comparable to the die hard series. raiders/die hard are the best. last crusade/die harder are appreciated clones of the first movie. temple of doom/with a vengence are action packed thrill rides that differ from the formula of the first. crystal skull/live free are the weaker entrys. though i perfer crystal skull of live free.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST

    There should be a new Indiana Jones movie every 3-4 years.

    by Twisted Wisdom

    Get a new Indy, and a new Director. Much like the way James Bond is handled. Especially since Indiana Jones is supposed to be an answer to James Bond. I would say the majority of fans want a reboot. But unfortunately, the decision makers don't really care what the fans want to see, only what they want. Because even with a 70 year old Indy, the movie will make money regardless, good or not because the fans are starved for this character.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Just too late...

    by JP

    They shuda been pumping these out in the 90s.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    George... Step away from the ledge...

    by jackson healy

    You really don't need another $786 million that badly, do you?

  • You fucking CUNTS work for me now DANCE YOU FUCKIN MONKEY'S and post good shit about me on AICN! I created their fucking childhoods and I can rape it all I fucking like because I own those fuckin slaves! WHOSE FUCKING GREAT?!?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Indy vs. Satanists

    by rev_skarekroe

    Set it in the late '60s. Base it loosely on the occult movies that were popular then, the same way the earlier films were based on serials of the '30s and "Crystal Skull" was based on monster/alien movies of the '50s. Make your villain a charismatic cult leader, a cross between Lavey and Manson. Do you need me to write this for you Lucas?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    They blew it with any Indiana Jones films past The Last Crusade

    by lv_426

    I mean, they dicked around with so many scripts and different screenwriters through the 1990's when they should have made a fourth Indy film. I mean, at that time Harrison Ford was still the right age, and was in the Jack Ryan films, so he was fine with action and adventure stuff. Sure he was a bit older but it wouldn't have looked as silly as parts of Crystal Skull did with him nearing his late 60's. Also, so many great possibilities for a fourth film with Ford in the 90's. His age then would have allowed for them to have Indy in the midst of World War II (remember they mention his war years in Crystal Skull). You'd still have the Nazis as the villains. No aliens. No Mutt. Maybe have a cameo by Sallah or Short Round, but don't make it too big of a deal. Connery could have had a scene at the beginning maybe, when Indy is in teacher mode and then gets the call to adventure and is getting ready to leave. As for a hypothetical Indy sequel made in the 90's, we'd need a sidekick/love interest. I guess maybe Julian Moore or Sharon Stone would be at the top of the list. Both good actresses that can do action/adventure and fit into a 1940's period setting. So while it would have been much better to have seen a World War II set Indy film that was actually produced and released closer to the time of the first three, and I'm glad Harrison Ford is still acting, but I think the time has long passed.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    head.

    by DarthBlart

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Indy vs. Sith Lords!

    by Onin Solstice

    Indy finds an ancient temple, turns out to be sith, sith lords return, Commies try to sway sith into joining their cause. Indy kills everyone, BEST INDY EVER!!!

  • Hence no Steven or Harrison involvement until Stevie felt like he needed even more moolah and Harrison's career was going down the toilet.

  • do it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull isn't *that* bad

    by D.Vader

    People like to blame CGI gophers and monkeys and Indy in a fridge (which I thought was *great*) but really what makes Skull a lesser film is a somewhat convoluted storyline that requires a lot of exposition about what happened *before* the movie; who was captured by who after discovering what and where and yadda yadda yadda. Combine that with some villains that don't seem entirely threatening and a maguffin that wasn't treated with the same reverence as previous artifacts, and you've got a lesser Indy film that's *still* not as bad as everyone maintains. So yeah, bring on another adventure!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST

    the "kids" ruin franchises...

    by cozy

    The Mummy, Superman Returns, Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones

  • and Lucas can't write. There is no greater fact than that.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Early 60s era Bond films could be the cinematic inspiration this time.

    by tomandshell

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    See what happens, geeks?

    by Knuckleduster

    See what happens when you just won't leave a beloved character alone? You kept nagging "When will we get Indy 4, George?" and then fridges got nuked and everything turned to shit. Just you wait for Evil Dead 4 and Ghostbusters 3. Same thing's gonna happen. Much better to encourage original material, don't you think?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Spielberg is just pissed because

    by quintana007

    we didnt like his nuked frigde

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST

    creepythinmanlives -- Indy plus Lovecraft would be fun

    by lv_426

    I mean, the mystical artifacts he chases after are pretty much magical fantasy things anyways. Maybe have him attempting to find the Necronomicon before the Nazis get their hands on it? All they have to do is have a nice little exposition/briefing scene ala Raiders in the first act saying how Cthulu and and all the Lovecraftian stuff is some weird old mystical religion that is still very unknown to even the most learned archeologists and scholars. That it is a strange religion older than any other known religion, perhaps the first religion and the first gods that mankind worshipped and feared. Have Indy be kind of laughing at it, *so the Nazis think they'll win the war if they have the boogeyman on their side.* Or something like that.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Only thing left is time travel....

    by whatevillurks

  • Indy + Lovecraft + WWII = WIN!!!!!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST

    It could deal with some cult followers of Aleister Crowley

    by D.Vader

    Charles Manson cults come too late. But with a Crowley cult, you could still have some fun globe-trotting action. Me? I'd prefer to visit some cold climates again and to see Indy on the ocean.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Early 60s Bond films is a great idea

    by D.Vader

    Bring the Connery inspiration back full circle.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST

    It's a sad world when this excites no one.

    by knowthyself

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST

    My inner cynic says no, but my inner teenager says yes.

    by Bill C.

    I've genuinely found at least one good thing in every Indy movie that generally justifies its existence--yeah, KOTCS, I'm including you--so on that level I would love to see one more film done to button the whole thing up. But allowing for Harrison's age and other factors...part of me would be fine with the series ending as it has so far, with Indy married and happy but still knowing where his fedora is.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Can't tell the difference between Raiders and Crystal Skull?

    by Flip63Hole

    Then stop watching movies. Hollywood really can't dumb movies down any more than they already have. You single-handedly helped destroy movies for giving your money to mindless CGI shitfests. Thanks, kiddies.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST

    I Wish Spielberg Would Just Become George's Enemy

    by Patrick Harrington

    Until Spielberg recants his frendship with George and declares him an enemy of the state and the memory of the Shoah, I cannot in clear conscience ever respect him or call him a true human being. Lucas needs to die. His childhood rapes have done more damage than Jerry Sandusky. In fact, I would call Sandusky woefully misunderstood because it was only misguided love that Sandusky felt for his victims. Lucas is not only a money grubbing tyrant who is possibly the worst human being since Adolf Hitler, he's also deluded enough to think he's a humanist and philanthropist as evidnced by his failure of a mentorship with that veteran on ABC News. Sigh. That's another thing. You've got a veteran of a war who has a clear killing contact with Lucas and he doesn't take it?!!! Or at least do recon so we can have someone infiltrate Skywaler Ranch and launch an assault on the entire Lucas staff, including the gift shop employee who I hear is a pathetically inept bitch. Spielberg needs to cut all ties with Lucas and get Michael Bay to do the next Indiana Jones. Make Short Round the villain. And when Lucas is killed in pleasingly violent ways, whatever happens, do not eulogize him.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Indy + 60's Bond

    by lv_426

    At this point, they could have Indy team up with Bond, set in the 60's. It would be like a lost Bond adventure and an Indy sequel at the same time. Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones. Michael Fassbender as a 1960's era James Bond (so as to keep the thing separate from the Daniel Craig Bond films set in the present day). Gary Oldman, Guy Pearce, or Daniel Day Lewis as the villain.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    George should bring Kasdan back to consult.

    by vadakinX

    Lucas has never written a script for Indiana Jones and he won't write Indy 5. He'll come up with the idea and hire a writer and then Lucas, Spielberg and Ford will spend 2 years arguing over each draft. I think they could do worse than to bring Kasdan into the mix. I don't think he should write it but he should definitely be in the room. Anyone who has read the transcript of the Raiders plot sessions will know what I mean. Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan sitting in a room, nailing down the characters, the plot, the action sequences etc. Brilliant stuff. Indy 5 needs that.

  • So what if its gelled from a dozen sources? I can deal!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Indy teams up with basically 4 hippies and their dog.

    by EyeForgiveMelGibson

    There's an ancient race of cave people that grew and worshipped marijuana as their way of life, and have legends of the first bong in a heavily booby trapped temple. And also a curse.

  • The villains can be some weird Cthulu worshipping cult that Bond is trying to infiltrate while Indy is searching for the Necronomicon, and all these elements crash into one another and much adventure and spectacle ensues.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    They should stop making these...

    by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch

    ...the introduction of Mutt fucked up the whole next chapter. Unless Indy knocked up Kate Capshaw in Temple of Doom and has a hot daughter he can go on an adventure with I don't see how they can do it. Mutt was dead on arrival. There's nowhere to go with him. And they can't give Indy another kid from a character we've never met. We've seen him get back together with Marion and frankly, she shouldn't be on the adventure again if it continues. But with the age Indy is, there has to be a properly told handing of the torch to someone worthy of it. A standalone adventure at his age feels wrong. It should be what Last Crusade was except this is Indy's last crusade. Putting Mutt the greaser into that would make everyone vomit. Give Indy a hot brainiac daughter from Temple of Doom and you might have a chance to extend the franchise.

  • Indiana Jones via the Coen Brothers?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Stallone

    by Craig

    Lucas should watch Rocky Balboa and Rambo to see how to send off an iconic movie character. The biggest thing missing from Indy after all those years was a complete lack of growth. Just seemed like the same dude only older.

  • I still get an uneasy feeling just mentioning the film.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Yeah Lv_426, like I said, bring in the Aleister Crowley cult

    by D.Vader

    He's been dead for 20 years but his followers can still worship him and his work. He's British so that's how you can tie in the 60's Bone era spy, and then add a dash of Lovecraftian plot and BLAMMO!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    A movie following a terrible sequel, with

    by jack

    a 75 years old protagonist as an action star, directed by someone who has lost his magic touch for over a decade now and written by a clueless conglomerate tycoon with the biggest ego in Hollywood. yeah i am sure that a great Indiana Jones film does still exist out there in the world we ll see it happen. uh-ha.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Crowley was involved with the British secret service, and beyond

    by papabendi

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and...

    by Dead_Geek

    ...The Little People.

  • If they keep the timeline correct. In 2008 the Indy Jones movies were in 1957. In 2012, the Indy movies would be in 1961. Add 4 years to write the script, shoot the film, and release and it'd be 2016 making it 1965. Crowley would be dead for 18 years. I'd like to say his followers worship his skull on a black altar.

  • That way we can get rid of batty old Marion, cause she divorces Indy when she finds out about all of the kids he fathered on his many adventures. Hugh Jackman as a rival adventuring archeologist who has to team up with Indy due to whatever villainous element is also trying to get the film's mystical artifact and use it for evil purposes.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Don't worry, they can kill off Mutt in Vietnam.

    by whatevillurks

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Actually Lucas is the last person who should be writing Indy 5

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Give it to some young hot shot who was influenced by the old Indy flicks )when Lucas was a decent writer) that can nail the real vibe that was missing from Indy4 thanks to Lucas fucking that all up.

  • Maybe save the idea of Hugh Jackman and Amber Heard as sidekicks for a sixth and final film, where Indy has to find the Spear of Destiny. Maybe have a cameo by Sallah. This brings us back full circle to the Biblical stuff, which would be a great place to leave the series at.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Henry Winkler is happy.

    by crimsoncinder

    One good thing came from Crystal Skull, "Jump the Shark" can be retired.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    a problem I had with the movie

    by MamboMan

    was the overall look. It looked way too clean. Almost, fake. All the other Indy movies look dirty, Indy getting dragged by a truck, Indy almost getting his heart torn out, Indy meeting Hitler... It looked too much like they were in a sound stage and not out in a real location.

  • The new seems to look different and flows more. Tell me if I'am wrong.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST

    LUCAS DOES NOT WRITE THEM!! LISTEN...

    by SminkyPinky

    He comes up with the macguffin and story and then another screenwriter is hired write it (Kasdan, Huyck & Kazan, Boam, Koepp). Are you people fuking blind? Fucking nuts? Wilfully stupid so you can have something to shout at?? It's like some blindfolded team sport - "If you want to be a fanboy you have to hate Lucas!". Morons. Get Lawrence Kasden to give it one more whirl and make it a harder action movie like the original. Make us fear for Indy's life like we did before. Make him as determined and unstoppable as he was before. There's life in the old dog yet.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:21 p.m. CST

    My vote would be for a 1950s "Hammer Horror meets Hellboy" flick

    by Acquanetta

    Lucas has been wanting to send Indy to a haunted castle since Raiders and the original concept for the character was to veer closer to Kolchak territory (ie. paranormal investigator). There's nothing particularly newsworthy about Indy 5 being solely up to Lucas, though. It's been that way ever since 2008.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST

    The fridge nuking scene, specifically.

    by Chris

  • Pinball Machine!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones: A Fridge Too Far.

    by DuncanDisorderly

  • Lots more winking callbacks to the other movies (and even the commercials for the other movies) and Indy actually gets eaten by a snake. Really.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST

    @tempursan

    by jemagee

    Let's see religious relic religious relic religious relic STUPID ALIEN SKULL that only exists in the minds of crazy art bell fans Not to mention - the shia thing was asinine, he wasn't short round - hell bring back short round it would have been better Crystal Skull was in the 'vein' of the first three indy movies much like halle berry's catwoman movie was in the 'vein' of any of nolans batman movies cause - well - they're both based on DCU characters yet neither is a faithful representation of said characters (yeah, I said, nolans first two movies might be good but the only FAITHFUL portrayal of any character in those movies is the sociopathic insane Joker portrayed by a guy trying to get fired)

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Indy should never be rebooted.

    by Laughing Boy

    Is anyone here suggesting that it should be actually over 30? My blood is boiling.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST

    I hate to say it but they should just reboot the franchise

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    New Indy, new storylines. Less Lucas involvement. Yeah, like that's going happen.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jone5

    by schadenfreudian

    Don't tell me I'm the first asshole to think of that...

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST

    NO!

    by JediWuddayaknow

    BAD SPIELBERG! How the fuck do his friends still include him on this shit in any other way than a consultant to toss out some random ideas?

  • Nice to see some things never change...

  • Usually when the quality of a beloved series takes a nosedive, the next film isn't a massive box office hit. For instance... Batman Forever did pretty good, because it was coming off of Batman Returns. However Batman & Robin did really badly, because it was coming off of Batman Forever and also because it sucked.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Indiana, let it go

    by Rtobert

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEblfSKCXM0

  • ...in other words, it should be the last "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" series? <p> <p>It's been done, guys. <p> <p>Oh, and the whole "raped my childhood" meme was stupid and in poor taste even before the whole Sandusky crap. Whoever brought that into the mix is a real winner.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Last Crusade was the James Bond Indy.

    by EyeForgiveMelGibson

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    The Crystal Skulls wasn't that bad!

    by Tom

    Shia and the aliens aside, it had a lot of randomness to it. But it still delivered a fun action movie. But yeah, I only want to see #5 if it's better.

  • Too late now.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST

    *apart from TMP in the 1999...

    by Gary Makin

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST

    *TPM even.

    by Gary Makin

    Fuck's sake.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST

    The only thing worse than Crystal Skull is creepythinmanlives

    by Larry_Sanders

    FACT!!!!!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:49 p.m. CST

    *in 1999 even...

    by Gary Makin

    Jeez.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:49 p.m. CST

    happybunni

    by Acquanetta

    Batman Forever didn't ride the coattails of Returns. It not only did significantly better (over $100 million more worldwide) but was viewed by the media as a "franchise saving" reboot at the time. (Actually, Batman and Robin's first big misstep was being rushed into production almost immediately after Forever's success.) There's no reason to think an Indy 5 would suffer at the box office, given the kind of four-quadrant appeal the franchise enjoys. Fanboys may have hated Crystal Skull, but their whining didn't prevent it from being just as successful as Iron Man during the summer of 2008.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST

    why not get help from the Uncharted writers?

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    The Uncharted games for PS3 have basically been homages to Indy anyway, and very well written ones at that - why not get them to help write the new one?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Not a reboot, but a James Bond approach

    by John Brown

    The only Bond move that's a reboot is Casino Royale, taking the character back to its roots. Indy doesn't need that. Just tell another adventure...set in the 30s/40s...with a new guy and a new girl. Keep the aesthetic and the music, and tell a ripping story. People will always say "but nobody did a better Indy than Ford," and they'll be right. But they will still enjoy the flicks and some will grow to prefer Indy's later incarnations, just like some prefer Daniel Craig, Pierce Brosnan, et. al. It will be ironic, given Sean Connery played his dad. Indiana Jones, the spiritual son of James Bond, deserves another go.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Not all the blame goes towards Lucas for an Indy 5 idea...

    by Logan_1973

    Harrison deserves some blame here too. Why would he want to keep on dragging this out? All he has to do is say NO MAS and its done.

  • I haven't seen many actors who have the right terse voice and the right look in their eyes to be an Indiana Jones, although Holloway definitely is one. He has ten times the charisma of Shia LaBeouf and personally I'd script a last adventure where Indiana runs into a competitor going for the last relic he's always wanted. That competitor just happens to be another son, one he had when he was younger, someone he also didn't know about (it could happen, with his lifestyle, after a one-nighter somewhere). Anyhow, this guy happens to be more of a chip of the old block than his biker boy son and steals the show with his own survival type tricks in the action set-pieces. Personally, I'd rather see the hat passed to someone who looks tough and deserves it, not the monkey swinging, mincing LaBeouf.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    *Ahem*

    by WerePlatypus

    SHEEEEEIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTT!

  • Hence the rape.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Indianna Jones and the Childhood on Pedobear Island!

    by kindofabigdeal

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST

    tempurasan, i like indy 4 too and agree with you

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    you nailed it - if the first 3 were never made and came out today just as they are the same people that hate crystal skull would hate them too

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST

    NATHAN FILLION...

    by Chris Moody

    ...if they are going to do a reboot. He would simply need to lose about 40 pounds.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    I just don't want to see him write it...

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Oh, you mean like the last four movies...which he also didn't write? This is a complete non-story. It's time to give up on Indy 5. Ford just about compensated for his age last time around. A seventy year-plus Indiana Jones is just a ridiculous idea.

  • Why all the bawling and crying??? Crystal Skull was entertaining, it's only a fucking movie! Also didn't Lucas reportedly crack the story for Indy 5 a couple of years ago??

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST

    I liked Frank Darabont's script.

    by CHEWBLACCA

    I think it would have been a MUCH better movie. Most of the "cheesy" ideas came from Lucas, anyway. That's why they were carried over. Sure, it wasn't perfect. But Indy wasn't a passive observer in if own adventure. He punched people. He shot bad guys. He was a man of action. And it maintained the mystery of the Skull up until the finale.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Lucas didn't write Crystal Skull!

    by darthwaz1

    He was the idea man.. haters get the fuck over it already!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Do it the way they did...

    by Hipshot

    Men In Black III, where you have a different actor playing the younger Indy, in an adventure that links past and present realities.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Tempurasan

    by Mike J

    I think you are missing the point. It isnt that Crystal Skull didnt have the same issues that the earlier movies had, it was simply that the 4th movie didn't have the same quality in set ups and character that the other did. You want examples? Ok take Temple of Doom. Indy is on a rock crusher being beaten to a pulp by athugee. And to complicate it, he is being attacked with voodo. And the rock crusher is getting closer! And Shorty looks like he might fail to save the day. It all looks bleak and then... POW! Shorty pulls the knife from the voodo doll, Cue great music, Indy looks pissed and then wow, great stuff. Now where is there in Crystal Skull one single moment like that, with that build up and that pay off? And what about Last Crusade? Indy is hanging off a tank.... the rockface rapisly approaching. His father is helpless, facing a gun barrel. And then.... POW! The pen is mightier than the sword! Tank driver buys the farm, tank swerves, cue great music, Indy looks pissed and then wow, great stuff. Again I ask, where in Crystal Skull is a scene where you really cant see how Indy is goi g to escape, and when he does you cheer the theatre down? The first 3 movies were full of tension leading into epic hero moments coupled with brilliant action sequences which were as funny as they were exciting (Club Obi Wan fight, the spike room, the rescue of Henry Jones Snr, the basket chase). Now Since you are speaking in absolutes, care to point me in the direction of a single scene in Crystal Skull where there was tension, leading into exciting and funny action? The quick sand scene was about as close as it got. The rest of the movie looked like it was made by people who had never seen an Indy film before. Jesus, even John Williams' score was totally lacklustre (you seem to think you're an expert, so please point me to one single use of the Indy theme in Crystal Skull which is used to such triumphant effect as it is in the three previous movies). And hack writer David Keopp even manages to turn in the dullest supporting characters ever seen in an Indy film. Compare this dull, gurning Marion tonthe spunky Marion in Raiders, or any of the other supporting roles to the likes of Shorty, Sallah, Marcus et al. Ox for god's sake was the dullest character in the entire series (way to go Keopp - could have made him Abner, which would have made MUCH more sense and given some pathos to the character and Indy and Marion's relationship with him but nope, lets make him a dull guy with a past which can explained in 30 seconds of expositionary dialogue). The failure of Crystal Skull has NOTHING to do with aliens or CGI anymore than the sucess of of the previous movies was due to the God stuff and the sometimes creaky matte paintings etc. It has all to do with the fact that it really isnt an Indy movie at all - it doesn't have 10% of the excitement, humour, panache, tension or just plain fun that the earlier Indy movies did. To my mind the only common denominator is the fedora.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST

    hipshot: I can go for that idea. Theres only one problem.

    by kindofabigdeal

    You would need to find an actor who can nail the performance just as Josh Brolin nailed TMJ. That's what really sold it. Two respectable actors, not whoever is hot right now.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Part 5 won't happen until Harrison kicks the bucket.

    by sweeneydave

    Then George can recreate his whole character digitally and make him do things Harrison would never do - like moon the audience repeatedly or falling face first in poodoo.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull was still more fun than 99% of tentpoles since Crusade

    by AntonStark

    In any case, it's not like ANY of the Indy movies were more than B entertainment for god's sake. They were fun kiddie stuff. Like 007 movies. Like Star Wars. Like LOTR. Like Die Hard.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    @ccchhhrrriiisssmredux - Nathan Fillion?

    by C A Iversen

    Your obviously joking. People select him for absolutely everything and he's fit for very little of it really. If it's a joke, I shouldn't have been expected to realise, as a lot of people suggest him for things and aren't.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Lucas. Why did it have to be Lucas?

    by Rtobert

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Darabont's script was terrible

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    It absolutely DID suffer the same problems as the final movie, with Indy being a passive observer in his own adventure; the script had even more secondary characters than the Koepp draft. It also had an absolutely awful villain, worse than the Cate Blanchett character, some ludicrous slapstick comedy (including Indy being swallowed by a giant snake), and numerous 'callbacks' to the previous films that were entirely unbelievable. Somebody actually says 'if adventure has a name, it must be Indiana Jones!' in the Darabont script. That was the fucking tagline for the ToD poster, for crying out loud; it shouldn't actually exist in the in-movie Indy universe! The whole thing read like a piece of fan fiction and was even worse than the final script. The only thing that was better was the relationship between Indy and Marion and the dialogue between them (no Mutt in that draft), but since Karen Allen seemingly lost the ability to act in the last twenty years, and was barely recognizable as the same character, then what difference would that ultimately make?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Finally

    by Ocarina182

    Thank god there's someone else here who knows what they're talking about.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST

    It's never too late for a Fate of Atlantis movie

    by Koborover

    That game really hit all the right notes for Indy.

  • Atlantis, as koborover mentioned Also: The Spear of Destiny Excalibur The Necronomicon Shangri-La Now yes, some of these have been done in other movies or shows (The Librarian, Sky Captain) that were in the first place obviously influenced somewhat by Indiana Jones. Thing is it has been long enough and seeing Indy finding Shangri-La or something like that, all done up in big budget form by Industrial Light and Magic would be great. It would also be more in line with the original pulp serial adventures of the original three.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:51 p.m. CST

    For Fucks sake, People!

    by Nichole

    I'd looove to see you internet Pussies, call Harrison Ford old to his face. He would knock your teeth out the back of your skull.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

    by Sumatran_Rat_Monkey

    Don't defile the the name of Indiana Jones further!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:58 p.m. CST

    If they do part 5

    by WeylandYutani

    Make it nearly a solo Indy effort. Raiders had Sallah and Marion, but they came and went throughout the adventure... It was Indy vs Belloq and the and the Afrika Corps. Part 4 had too many people in Indy's entourage and that hurt the story by giving each person screen time for their back story. Make the film about Indiana Jones. Full stop.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6 p.m. CST

    i hope that if they do it.... they do it fucking right

    by Creative

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Do you really want to see THIS GUY cracking a whip?

    by Chief Joseph

    http://tinyurl.com/oldford Give it up. The time to do this was 1992, not 2012.

  • Cthulu cults, swinging 60's set Bondian Indy's, haunted mansions...these are all good ideas. They fucked up by not making more IJ films in the 90's. They could have made at least three more in that time. The concept of IJ is as flexible, and ripe for variation, as Bond. Why have Indy dicking about in the jungle half the time? How about some underwater 'archaelogy' involving lost artifacts in old pirate ship wrecks, or in a snowbound environment (Indy in the Himalayas)? How about a horror-themed Indy (I suppose ToD came close to this) or a more cerebral entry involving less action and a more labyrinthine plot, with many twists and clues that Indy has to solve? There are, of course, a shitload of fictional or real religious and occult McGuffins that could have served as the impetus for these adventures, too, from the aforementioned Cthulu idols to the Turin Shroud to the Spear of Destiny to artifacts from Greek and Norse mythology, etc. Early in the game, Lucas should have engineered the series so that the mantle of Indiana Jones could be passed on to different actors when the previous 'aged' out, just like Bond. Alas, Ford is too closely associated with the role now, and I bet that Lucas is kicking himself that he didn't do this. Sure, people would have complained for a while, but it took people a while to get over Connery, too, back in the late 60's/ early 70's. We could be on Indy Mk. IV with Josh Holloway or Nathan Fillion or Jon Hamm by now. They needn't all have been directed by Spielberg either, who could have just produced.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:06 p.m. CST

    larry sanders

    by VaderSabre

    well said, sir...well said.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Should continue like James Bond movies...

    by Mantula

    Spielberg had said in the past that Indy was his answer to James Bond. He always wanted to direct a James Bond movie, and this was his way of scratching that itch. (I believe he said this in reference to the tuxedo-wearing Indy scenes in the beginning of Temple.) -- So, why not continue this franchise like the James Bond ones. I think Harrison Ford and Co. and make one or two more... but then let other directors and actors continue on the series. Sure there will be bad ones, but there also may be more good ones. --- I'm not sure if I really want this or not, but I just wanted to put the idea out there. On a side note, I don't think Skull was a bad as everyone gives it credit for... but still not my favorite (BY FAR). So, I wouldn't mind seeing everyone take another crack at it!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    How about a clone?

    by jack

    A secret Nazi organization which survived WW2 and settled in Brazil, is developing clone technology with Josef Mengele as the supervisor of the project. The organization intends to use the technology in order to resurrect Hitler and through him to bring back the 3rd Reich. But to do that, they need Hitler's remains of his dead body. According to their sources, Hitler's body is hidden somewhere in East Europe. So they start a mission to discover and retrieve his body. Meanwhile the usa government is aware of this situation so it decides to send Indiana to Europe in order to find Hitler's body and bring it back to USA before the Nazi's do. Now here is the big revelation. At some point in the movie, Indy faces an unexpected enemy. A younger version of himself. Apparently the Nazis not only have perfected their cloning technology but they have already experimented with it and created a clone of Indiana Jones in order to use it against him. At the end of the movie, Indy finds Hitler's body, manages to kill his evil doppelganger and brings the body back to usa. The final shot of the movie is similar to that from the original Raiders movie, an old guy is placing a big box with Hitler's remains somewhere in the huge secret warehouse. the end.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    In defense of the TOD raft jump....

    by Mosquito March

    The shaman tells Indy repeatedly that SHIVA BROUGHT HIM THERE to get the stone and save the village. This is a prophecy. Indy doesn't believe it, and doesn't believe in the power of the stones. By the end of the movie, he believes in the power of the Sankara, even calling on Shiva to help defeat Mola Ram. That is Indy's whole character arc - from non-belief and self-service to belief and self-sacrifice. And when he gets back to the village with the stone and the kids and the village is alive again, the shaman says "SEE, I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO." Even RAIDERS features a dose of deus ex machina, and that's the Indy gold standard, so it's not unreasonable to conclude that Shiva wanted Indy to go to Pankot and made sure he didn't die in the raft.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Oops...

    by Mantula

    I see that Twisted Wisdon had the idea out there first... and it's a pretty good idea. -- I also agree with covjack that many will say that Harrison's Indy was the best, but that others will have their own favorites.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Turd what about my idea. do you like it?

    by jack

    provided that you ignore the fact that it is essentially The Boys From Brazil with Indy. ;)

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST

    The Spear of Destiny

    by ne32

    The film needs a strong religious focus. That is where the Indy films shine.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Lucas will just fubar it....

    by thot

    ..so why not just re-cast and give Indy some new adventures without reference to the originals? Like others have said, they've successfully done it with James Bond and other characters. HF may have one more in him,...maybe. But if we have to wait....and wait.....and wait....for George Lucas to get off the proverbial pot, we'll all be too old to care.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Just make IJ and the Fate of Atlantis into a movie, ffs.

    by jack

    or just make any movie about Atlantis. Jesus H Chirst, Atlantis is the biggest, most famous and most sought archaeological mystery in the whole human history, you have a franchise with the most famous archaeologist and you still have not made a movie with him trying to discover Atlantis? Lara Croft's first videogame was about her discovering Atlantis ffs.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Yeah, it's a good 'un...

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Joe Public's so cinematically illiterate these days that he's probably never even heard of The Boys from Brazil, so I think you're safe...

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Ford's age isn't a problem.

    by DocPazuzu

    My dad turned 72 in July and on his birthday he posed for a pic while doing a one-handed handstand. He used to be a gymnast, is in terrific shape and could probably beat the shit out of each and every one of you -- at the same time. Look, I hated Crystal Skull for a number of reasons but Ford wasn't one of them. He worked as hard as he could with the shit he was saddled with and came out of it unsullied as far as I'm concerned. The first 15 minutes were mostly great, but when Mutt showed up the movie started to squeak. By the time they got on the plane heading south, the movie ground to a complete halt, never to fully recover. I could go on and on about what didn't work (as I have in the past), but I won't. I don't understand why the crapness of Crystal Skull should prevent a fifth movie. The way I see it, they have nothing to lose. If the make a shit movie again, well, then nothing has been lost. If they make a good one, however, it just might make us feel a little bit better about the last one. But if it's going to work, Spielberg and Karen Allen (she was terrible in KOCS) need to bring their A-game. John Williams as well.

  • I say go ahead with it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:33 p.m. CST

    thanx Turd ;)

    by jack

  • I could go on and on about why it was one of the worst movies I've ever gone to see in the theater, but this man does it way, way better http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/indiana-jones-and-the-kingdom-of-the-crystal-skull/

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and The Great Beyond

    by tailhook

    Indiana Jones works best when dealing with religion. Use DOA as a framework and have the last one deal with his death. Start out by poisoning him(by a snake of course) with an uncurable toxin that takes a couple days to finish the job, and he has to go on an adventure to figure out who tried to kill him and why. He figures it out and then comes to terms with his own mortality and dies at the end to finish up the series. If done well, it then holds to the ODDS being decent(3) to great(1), with the EVENS being total stinkers that the series has adhered to. And make no mistake, no matter how much retconning you jackasses try to do.. Temple of Doom is a bad film with a decent scene(mine ride) or two(bridge). But on the whole its just a bad film.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Actually, Temple of Doom...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is fucking awesome.

  • Hollywood. Where no one can tell the truth. 'Hey, this guys a very successful hack'. 'Hey, that movie sucked'. 'Hey, they are coasting on past successe's while making movies that are total shit'. Would it kill SS to just tell GL to FUCK OFF YOU NO-TALENT HACK?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST

    What about Excalibur?

    by PCMODEMTCG

    Wouldn't the search for King Arthur's mythical sword be a great macguffin? You have fantastical elements and everything can be a BS story (FYI - Raiders tale wasnt based in any facts at all, but it FELT like it was). I for one think that would be a worthy adventure myself. The sword and the land are one, lady of the lake, and all the trimmings. Can't remember a film where anybody really searched for that - make it happen.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Oh God, someone is sucking off that Plinket character

    by Mugato5150

    How fucking predictable. How does Mr. Cranky weigh in on the subject?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull was good except for the jungle chase

    by Atticus Finch

    Mutt's fencing and vine-swinging was fucking stupid. Other than that the film is pretty damn good and in the spirit of the others. The talentless, boring Kidd could stand to learn a few things from Lucas.

  • and there is no consensus on suckage like Transformers so cram that noiset! I think Indy should go to Asia, the main bad guy is a General in the Chinese army, "Short-Round" all grown-up.

  • NONE of his observations are accurate or even remotely insightful. He's a bitter fuckbag with too much time spent at mommy's computer. He needs to know what the word "PARASITE" means because without Star Wars or Indy, he'd be yet another fat, four-eyed geek with cheeto dust on his Frodo t-shirt typing furiously about his childhood getting buggered.

  • I didn't even fucking like the movie. Way too many characters that I didn't give a shit about. And Raiders is my favorite movie! But even I can see the complete hypocrisy in most of the whining towards the 4th film. Even when I read the reviews for the new Blu-ray set (Which is wonderful BTW. Get off your ass and buy the set so called Indy fans) 99% of the reviews make a point of saying it's not even remotely as bad as some make it out to be. Because it's not. They made a 50s SciFi movie for petes sake. Might I remind you that this is the same fucking site that praised Transformers 3. Do I really have to point out how retarded you guys come off?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST

    You what the funny thing is?

    by drompter

    That if a hypothetical Indy 5 happened and it was centered about the finding of some ancient artifact then the same people bitching about Crystal Skull dealing with aliens would probably bitch about yet another Indy film in which some ancient artifact is involved and would accuse George Lucas of running out of ideas milking the same formula blah blah blah. I'd bet money on that.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:53 p.m. CST

    The Jungle chase needed some better editing...

    by Dan

    but the jokes were as corny as ever, thankfully! (Doom had plenty) and the action solid...and NOTHING, was over-the-top....the nuke the fridge was just as absurd as the raft from the plane, the plane crashing and following them in the tunnel in Last Crusade... stop with the selective memories...

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST

    They WERE NOT ALIENS...pay attention.

    by Dan

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 6:56 p.m. CST

    indy 5

    by mick vance

    should be all about tits and pussy. follow the rocky thing and have the wife die off screen. then indy just fucking runs the train on any piece of tail who crosses his path. it's gonna be tits!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Lucas NEVER wrote any of the Indy films...

    by Dan

    story man, folks...research this shit... Darabont script was far worse...aside from the bi-plane sequence...

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:01 p.m. CST

    temple of Doom is awesome, geez.

    by Dan

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    But first... "Raiders of the Lost Ark: DETOURS!"

    by animatronicmojo

    Wocka-wocka-HEY!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST

    George Lucas is an Academy Award-nominated screenwriter

    by Nem_Wan

    He can do it!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST

    NO more Jurassic Park, or Star Wars, or Indiana Jones

    by chromedome

    Spielberg and Throatsac have already done more harm than good to them with unnnecessary, and crappy, sequels/prequels. Do something entirely NEW, why dontcha? You don't have a built in audience for these anymore because you have betrayed the fans with the crappy follow-on work. Start Fresh, Try Again. Or don't. Neither "Spielberg" nor "Lucas" on a project is the badge of quality that it once was. You've lost our confidence. Earn it back with something new, or don't bother.

  • I notice that the world-at-large tends to think of that film as the least of the four but still quite good. I agree with that, and I also agree that you fanboy nazis sure do like your groupthink!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:16 p.m. CST

    For the sake of the idiot fanboys...

    by Dan

    Lucas should hire some raw talent to do a new trilogy just to say fuck off to them all while taking their money...

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull wasn't Lucas's fault!

    by locater16

    I know, as much as I disliked the prequels it feels weird to say. But Lucas wasn't responsible for "Nuking the fridge" or Indie having a kid! The aliens and communists worked well in adapting to the fifties and that Ford is old, all considered. That's what Lucas was responsible for, the stuff that ruined Crystal Skull was mostly Speilberg's fault!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Crystal Skull was perfectly fine.

    by Dolmes

    Too many sheeple following the herd.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:33 p.m. CST

    I actually enjoyed Crystal Skull...

    by Playkins

    There were a few parts I didn't like- CG Monkeys and ants, the cringe-worthy part with the snake. The ending was.... OK. It would've bothered me much less had we not actually seen the alien or the UFO. I thought Shia did a good job. I thought he was right in line with characters from an Indy movie. I think people that complain about the CG are forgetting some of the absolutely horrible matte shots from the older films.

  • No. Bury the franchise now. Crystal was a painful caricature of blind faith/corporate greed chasing the big dollars.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST

    the HUGE problem with Indy is not Lucas, it's...

    by Detached

    ... that fact that Indy is a one-story character. Every film with him will be some version of Raiders. That can work, I suppose, but only up to a point. Last Crusade was the only post-Raiders Indy film that really worked, and it was just Raiders II. Not to say it can't be done again (maybe the "odd numbered" Indy films will be the ones that work), but it better be JUST the right story. I didn't hate Crystal Skull as much as others did, but had it not been for the success of the previous films, I doubt it would have made any money at all. IOW, it had little to recommend it on its own merits (not the first sequel to end up in that position). The next one better, or they shouldn't bother.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Ιndiana Jones and the Pursuit for a Good Movie.

    by jack

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Just because millions saw Indy 4, doesn't mean they liked it.

    by Gary Makin

    I didn't.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Mutt needs to die.

    by trooper15795

    Mutt is killed while on a mysterious solo adventure in Europe trying to recover the as yet decided MacGuffin, Indy comes out of retirement to investigate...... no space aliens, no CGI monkeys, no ludicrous drops off water falls..... on location filming, get off the sound stage, put the computer away and use actual stuntmen. Keep George away from the dialogue. Force everyone involved to re-watch Raiders. It is still possible to make a great film.

  • George Lucas is not to be trusted and when he says he wants to make sure a script is likable by all, that means that each of his multiple personalities is pleased. Lucas is a raging maniac that should be deemed unfit to carry a pen or operate a word processor as he is dangerous to the movie world and also to childhoods that would prefer to no longer be raped.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Is it time for one of mine 'George raped our childhood' comments?

    by Matt Schlotman

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST

    George... Give Indy to the next generation...

    by Teddy Artery

    There are actually good screenplay writers out there. Hire some of them and let THEM give Indy a new lease on life.

  • pass the torch- you're too old to dig! No more diggin for yoouu..

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST

    locater16 is right.

    by Mugato5150

    Maybe Lucas' alien idea was goofy but ultimately the director is responsible for what goes on the screen. Lucas didn't shoot the Paramount logo dissolving into the hedgehog mound. He didn't direct Shia swinging with the monkeys. If Spielberg tried, he could have even made the nuking fridge work. It's not that outrageous a concept. But everyone shits on Lucas so it's all his fault.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST

    But do not pass it to shit beef

    by UltraTron

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST

    I didnt hate Crystal Skull.

    by Deep Roots

    Liked the Cold War vibe. Liked Blanchet. Liked the greaser deal. Hell, I didn't even mind the aliens. But there are just too many scenes in that movie that didn't work.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones, in his day...

    by Monnie Knapp

    the bitch's bastard.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    The Phantom Menace > The Plastic Skull

    by GravyAkira

    Indy 4 is a complete and udder disgrace to the franchise. Burn all remaining copies!

  • Skull isn't exactly a conclusion. We really need a good end to the series. But Ford's getting old, no doubt about it. Cowboys and Aliens proved he can still ride a horse and shoot a gun, so I say he needs to stick to that sort of action, but leave the heavy lifting action to Shia.

  • Does AICN clear out its posters every few years?

  • It's too fucking late, thanks to Spielberg and Lucas PUTZING AROUND FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS WHEN THEY KNEW TIME WAS OF THE FUCKING ESSENCE. Sorry but DAMN that pisses me off. Georgie boy did WHAT exactly since then? Hmm? Wiped his ass with more Star Wars money? YOU HAD PLENTY OF FUCKING TIME TO WRITE A FUCKING NEW INDY...don't even give me that shit. Indiana Jones is my favorite film character of all time. I even have the exact raiders jacket, from the same people who made ford's, to his exact specifications (good thing we're pretty much exactly the same measurements, as it turns out). So pardon me if i get a little irate about this. GOFUDFJKDLFJDLJFDKLFJDLSFJSDKLFJSDJLF If they filmed right now - RIGHT NOW - Ford MIGHT still do it. I can't speak for George's FUCKING MONKEYS AND CGI RODENTS...but FORD could pull it off. What the fuck is so wrong with an old indy, anyway? What, are we supposed to pretend that life ends just because you get old? Fuck you. When I get old I don't intend to just roll over and give up and die. i'll be having my GREATEST adventures then. you kidding me? Indy is one of the few action/adventure heros who CANT get too old until he can't physically move around anymore - and Ford is in great shape. THE PROBLEM ISN'T HIS AGE...it really is just a number, and everyone ages differently, so one man's 70 is another man's 90 is another man's 55. Some men drop dead at 70. Some are running marathons at 70. It all depends on the individual. The PROBLEM is that these asshats are going to fuck around for so long saying "they have ideas for a script" that FORD HIMSELF will say "guys...I'm too fucking old" - even if WE would still pay to see him do it, FORD is the only one with the real choice here. Harrison Ford is in far better shape at 70 than most of you fucks saying he's too old are RIGHT NOW. At your current age. I'll bet he'd STILL beat your ass. The man staples hats to his head to stop the wind from blowing them off and gets half his chesthair ripped off at once without wincing at all. I'm thinking he can take you. He could play Indiana Jones at 75 if he keeps this up. But he won't WANT to. And you just KNOW jerkoff lucas will want to try and get Shia in there to "replace" him - as if anyone in their right mind wants to watch that twat run around pretending he's half as cool as harrison ford's used condom from 40 years ago. Much less Harrison himself. Shia will never be Indiana Jones. Not even Jr. In no universe could he take up that mantle and be believable. he can play a great bumbling idiot. That's about it. Fuck you, George Lucas. How has your neck fat not stopped your heart cold yet? Go. Away. And leave it all to Spielberg.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Will Shia promote Indy5 like he promoted Indy4?

    by Rtobert

  • If Lucas should take part in any aspect of this film, it should be as producer. How about they bring in some new blood! I bet Darron Aronofsky would be game!

  • That would rock!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST

    I've written an excellent Indy 5 help me get to George!!!

    by Mr95

    It's based on a Lucas idea.. It's way better then Crystal Skull, but then that's not saying much! I've sent an email to the guys who run this site for some help but I dont think they'll reply..anyway it's a rollicking adventure that puts Indy in the perilous, back to the wal situations, we love!!! It sees him up against The Chinese in 1959 in a quest to find the greatest relic of all..The True Cross of Christ..it sees the the emergence of a bad guy that even the Nazis would be proud to call their own.. Anyway it would be great if I could get some help getting it to the powers that be to have a look at it..even if they took just a few ideas!!! Ps there's no Mutt..and by the way Mr Ford is never to old!!!!

  • Most people who saw the movie liked it or really liked it. It's not a fact that it was garbage/embarressment/awful. Most people took it for what it was, a fun summer movie, in the tradition of the earlier ones. They weren't hypersenstive, hypercritical douchebags who let 2 or 3 scenes ruin an entire movie for them, even though the first 3 Indy movies had equally implausible scenes in them. How is the Nuked Fridge any more ridiculous than the Lost Ark burning everyone's faces off, a raft dropping out of a crashing airplane and falling off a cliff, a witchdoctor ripping a still beating heart out a man's chest (who doesn't die from it!), or a 700 year old knight guarding a cup?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST

    New hobbit trailer

    by Pipple

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYz0JWJioOM BOOOM BABY BOOM looks fantastic. Oh INDY 5. i learned my lesson. Leave old franchises alone. It was a mistake to make crystal skull no matter how you slice it. I get more enjoyment watching fucking mummy 1 again than that movie. good grief.

  • The scenes with just Ford were all great, felt just like Indy should...

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    And regarding the infamous nuke the fridge scene...

    by wcolbert

    Really? THAT'S what you didnt like about the film? not Shia and his cgi monkey swinging? Not the terrible fake russian accents? Not the CGI gophers and ants? Not the fucking alien angle... compared to all that, nuking the fridge was downright tame. It's not as if there weren't COMPLETELY unsurvivable moments in the first 3 indy's.... that mine cart chase...so dead.... slamming against the cliff wall when the bridge broke and not dying or falling off... FALLING OUT OF AN AIRPLANE IN A RUBBER RAFT FROM THOUSANDS OF FEET UP AND BEING COMPLETELY FUCKING FINE.... the whole tank scene, the propeller scene, being dragged behind the truck without losing your gonads in the process... yeah but surviving that blast was so different. It's a movie. He's the main character. By default, he survives anything. grenade launcher to the face? He's ok! As for the radiation ...you do realize that nuclear fallout depends on the prevailant wind direction, don't you? There were plenty of people who were VERY close to the hiroshima and nagasaki blasts - close enough to clearly see the mushroom cloud above their heads - and they survived with no radiation illness at all. One man survived BOTH bombs, and wasnt all that far away - just on the outskirts of town - when each went off.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Didn't Crystal Skull rape that corpse hard enough?

    by Heresy

    Please no more

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST

    I fucked your mothers.

    by Metroid_Fetish

    I'm sure this is a relevant comment somehow. You assholes figure it out.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:46 p.m. CST

    HEY creepythinmanlives F#ck Off and shut your f'ing pie hole bitch!

    by Professor_Bedlam

    Its not my favorite but I enjoyed IJ&KOTCS

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Agreed: Crystal Skull > Temple of Doom

    by Prooth

    Bring on Indy 5! I agree about no cgi. I agree about not making it a last huzzah. I think Indy being pulled into an adventure as an older adviser till the young 'un adventurers have no clue what to do, then Indy springs into action is the way to go.

  • WW2; Hitler is getting desperate and he's listening to some crackpot Nazi scientist who convinces him to go after the Necronomicon to help him resurrect the dead while the scientists wants the book to help him become ruler of earth with demons and shit. Indy is fighting in the war and is pulled out by US intelligence to go after the book. Maybe give him a team of people that he works with and make it a Mission: Impossible style espionage flick with subterfuge and a turncoat. The turncoat sets a trap for Indy and the rest of the team once they have the book and all are killed except for Indy and some cute little chick, the team language expert who knows of the Necronomicon and how to read it, and they go after the book and the turncoat. Have the climax take place in some underground ancient city littered with corpses that are brought back to life with the book and the climax has the translator chick invoking the vortex ala Evil Dead 2. Necronomicon gets sucked into the vortex, explosion, bad guys dead and Indy takes the little translator chick home to FUCK……HARD!!! I know there’s a bit of Evil Dead in there and quite a bit of The Mummy but, to be honest, I really like the first Mummy flick and remember seeing it back in 99 and thinking “FUCK ME now this is what an Indiana Jones sequel should have been”.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST

    How about Indiana Bones and the Temple of Poon?

    by Gary Makin

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    JUMP THE SHARK. NUKE THE FRIDGE. PET THE ALIEN SNAKE.

    by Astronut

    Why can't people in Hollywood see how utterly retarded some of this shit is???

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:08 p.m. CST

    pet the alien snake? dafuq?

    by wcolbert

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Up to Lucas? Never mind then.

    by Violator90

    We all know Lucas will never hand over anything that his grubby fat paws control. So I rather just not have any more Indy movies. Until Lucas isn't involved in ANYTHING, it would be ok by me to never see a new Indy ever again. There are still the original 3 Indy movies to keep me happy.

  • I admit I might be paraphrasing a little as I haven't seen the film since it was in theaters, but this quote in a nutshell is what killed the movie for me. Not the nuked fridge, not the tarzan sequence, not the tank in the river scene, not the aliens, not the wedding scene, not Shia, not that it came off as more of a Brendan Fraser Mummy film that an Indiana Jones film, it was those idiotic couple of lines of conversation to end the film that really killed this thing for me.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST

    no worries violator...lucas HAS to die soon.

    by wcolbert

    Guy is that fat at his age....frankly I'm amazed he's still kicking. he's in pathetic shape.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:31 p.m. CST

    George Lucas being responsible for the story? NO THANKS.

    by User897

    That frognecked shell of a man is cinema poison. He died in 1996. Nothing good can come of this with him involved.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Indy 5: Beaters of the Dead Horse

    by BubbaDestructo

    In 3-D.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST

    my main problems with crystal skull

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    cinematography and the casting of Mutt. Shia doesn't fit the part and the movie doesn't look right, though I think Spielberg claimed to try and make it like the old ones, it was all Kaminskied out. After that, some of the CG was bad and the monkeys were ridiculous, but those things passed quickly.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Reboot Indiana Jones? Pull a James Bond?

    by D.Vader

    No thank you. No way. Harrison Ford IS Indiana Jones. No one else.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Watching all 4 Indy movies back to back last week...

    by D.Vader

    ... Really made Crystal Skull better. You see that Mutt fits right in with the series, more than you remember, and the film really does follow all the same beats as the previous 3 far the most part. Like I said, Crystal Skull's biggest problems are exposition, confusing backstory, weak villains (I like Cate Blanchett but she and her goons weren't scary enough), a MacGuffin that isn't treated with the same reverence and mystery as the previous MacGuffins, and (as someone else mentioned) Indy never feels like he is truly in danger. But other than that, yep, its an Indiana Jones movie.

  • No. Just back the fuck off of it and leave it alone. So far, karma has yet to strike one of these producers with a bolt of lightning to the temple... so far.

  • I was under the impression Ford and Spielberg agreed to a worse script for Crystall Skull. George wasn't happy, got one more rewrite which was considered better. He only really reluctantly agreed. In any case, they should just higher a bunch of writers to pitch ideas. Instead of waiting for george to have an idea.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST

    DVader

    by RedJester

    I'll take your advice and watch it again. Perhaps I am being overly critical.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST

    I do agree Ford IS Indy.

    by Chief Joseph

    I don't want to see a reboot. I'm saying I don't want a new Indy movie period. By the time Lucas and Spielberg finally get off their lazy asses, Ford will be pushing 80 years old. I have zero faith in George Lucas in turning out a good story. And no, I don't watch any non-Connery Bond movies.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST

    RedJester

    by D.Vader

    I'll have to read your posts and find out where you're being overly critical. Like I said, watching it back to back with the other films without commercial breaks really solidified its relationship with the other films for me. It also made its weaknesses more glaring for me, though, but that's a good thing bc I can pinpoint what makes it a lesser entry to the series. Its certainly not the CG animals or the Nuked fridge (which I love) or Mutt swinging in the jungle. Like I said, its a confusing backstory (told by a character we don't know about characters we don't know doing things we don't know) told in a fairly expositional sequence and a MacGuffin that just isn't treated as mysteriously as it should be (Indy picks it up like any old hunka-junk; previous MacGuffins are ALL shown to be quite special). Anyway, it really does fit with the other films. I think many are being overly critical about it, but I get where they're coming from.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Oh, and that line of dialogue, Red Jester

    by D.Vader

    You did get it twisted a bit. Its not that knowledge is "the greatest treasure of all." Indy is explaining why the myth of the City of Gold when there was no gold to be found anywhere. He explains that an alternate translation of the word could intertwine "gold" and "treasure"; history and myth-makers always used gold, but in reality, it was "treasure" and their treasure was in their knowledge. It does seem a bit repetitive. I think he says something like"Their treasure wasn't gold, it was knowledge. Knowledge was their treasure."

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    dvader...one little extra complaint

    by MCVamp

    During the climax, Indy does next to nothing. Even in Raiders, he makes the conscious decision to not destroy the Ark out of spite, then realizes that if they avoid gazing into the Ark, they might survive. In Crystal Skull, once they get to the ship, almost everything revolves around Cate Blanchett being stupid and "RUN AWAY."

  • The originals will hold up solid for another 30 years at least. The liability on film sets today won't allow for the stunt-work to be equaled, and CGI is world's away from recreating that kind of grit and gravity. Stop this madness. He had a nice run, but Mr. Lucas is tapped.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST

    True, McVamp

    by D.Vader

    That is a confusing sequence for me. I think only in this last screening did I realize that since the Skull spoke to Ox and Indy, it recognized them as good people and truly wanted to reward them. It never spoke to Spalko so it recognized her as a villain and basically destroyed her. But the first few viewings I couldn't wrap my head around it- why would the skull and the aliens kill Indy after returning the skull? Its just pretty confusing. That sequence could have used some clarification as to what was going on. But as for Indy doing nothing, that doesn't bother me too much bc as stated above, he didn't do anything in Raiders either.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST

    For the record I didn't HATE Crystal Skull either...

    by ThulsaBoom

    ...and would even agree with d.vader's assessment that it 'fits'. That said, it was a clear step down and I don't want to see things get any worse.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST

    I also don't like the lack of psychic powers

    by D.Vader

    I get that its left ambiguous bc hey, maybe Spalko is just another fraud that has convinced Stalin that she has psychic powers! But, it seems she really and truly believes the Skull will grant her psychic powers. This is either bc A) her powers are real or B) she is desperate to not be found out to be a fraud by her overlords. But I wish, I wish, I wish they would have said yes or no either way. Yes, she's a fraud or YES, she actually has psychic powers. I actually found the opening sequence to be confusing bc I thought Spalko was going to have real psychic power and so would some of her goons. So in the scene where the Russian steps out at Area 51 and the US guards say "Oh sorry Colonel," I was very confused. First, I thought they were all wearing Russian outfits, not US military wear (the colors threw me off and I didn't see the US pins on their uniforms), so when the US guard calls the Russkie Colonel, I thought it was bc he was using his psychic power to cloak himself. Then we see that only the one Russian got out of the car, but when he steps down to tie his shoe, 4 other Russkies pop out from behind him to gun down the guards. I figured this was bc he had again used his psychic powers to hide the soldiers behind him. Now, of course, I realize he was just wearing an American uniform and Spielberg used some cinematic magic/trickery to surprise us. But it didn't lessen my interest in seeing some psychic action of some sort. Hell, what if Spalko had infected Mutt's mind and convinced him to start attacking Indy? Or what if that's what really happened to Mac? He was under her psychic spell all those times? Certainly would make him more sympathetic in the end. Ah well. One more weakness in my opinion.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Speaking of psychic spells...

    by D.Vader

    When Mac first turns his gun on Indy and the Russkies smile and again point their guns at Indy, I really did think at that moment that Mac had been psychically controlled. Then he talked about needing money and they pay and OY I was disappointed.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST

    How about a movie with Fedora, the guy in Last Crusade who gave Indy his hat?

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    Although Romancing the Stone did that already. :-/

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Shia is not returning because he's too busy fucking

    by doom master

    on camera for money.... I said it. Now go look at his dick.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST

    One final thing....

    by doom master

    NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. INDY 5? You will see it on Ford's tombstone before you see it in films.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Crystal Skull was not that bad

    by Nuck81

    Mediocre Indiana Jones is still better than 90% of movies released through the year....

  • But not that bullshit Lucas spun in the Young Indiana Chronicles, with Indy turned into a doddering old fart with an eyepatch. This way we get Ford as Indy, and a new actor playing young Indy with al the whiz bang action we expect. Indy has to disappear. In the Amazon or Himalaya. And all that's found is his hat. Let Indy die and become a legend. Desperately needs a new director, though. Lucas and Spielberg need to stay away from this one.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:23 a.m. CST

    I keep thinking of Percy Fawcett, how his disappearance became legend.

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    That's how I'd like to see Indy go out. Not as a married old fart blowing a saxophone.

  • So that's that argument blown out of the water. Everything in Indy 4 was a hell of a lot believable and interesting to watch than the clusterfuck of turgid bowel movement that Lindelof shat out and Scott polished to make look good. And I'm saying that as someone who found Indy 4 lacklustre but had moments. The Indy 4 script was something that sounded good but fell short in its execution. Prometheus wouldn't have been made if they'd got even the least qualified person to proof read that script, say a German Shepard. So full of holes you could've used it as a colander.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:07 a.m. CST

    I agree...Let Indy go...

    by hulkiest

    And bring on MANIMAL!!

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Make way for MANIMAL!

    by hulkiest

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Crystal Skull Hate

    by SuperXY

    It wasn't a good movie. But it wasn't anywhere near as bad as Billy and many of you are making it out to be. There were at least a few moments that every one of you liked if you like Indiana Jones at all. Any of you who bought the box set are eventually gonna watch it multiple times. It was highly flawed. It had way to much corny crap in it. However it was hardly bad enough that it should make anyone think a great Indy movie couldn't be put together. And basing what Lucas can do on Red Tails is like saying Spielberg sucks because of the Transformers movies (almost a valid point though). Lucas didn't write Red Tails or direct it. He shares the blame, but again, it isn't total damnation of his ability. You guys are either incredibly cynical or incredible douchebags. Chill. Be optimistic about seeing another Indy movie instead of deciding that it will automatically suck because you enjoy hating stuff. Fuckin trolls. And Billy, in this case you are one too.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Box Office Failure

    by Jared Bond

    I don't think even today's audiences would fall for it again. Harrison Ford is too old, we don't want to see a a geezer pretending to be a superhero. These senior citizens have no creative spark, only the desire to try to re-validate themselves (failing) and shamelessly cash in on their franchises.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:45 a.m. CST

    d.vader, I completely disagree.

    by DocPazuzu

    I found nothing confusing in KOTCS, least of all in the first sequence of events. It was quite obvious that those were the American uniforms of the era. And even if that wasn't clear -- why would they have nametags with non-cyrillic letters? Why would they be driving around in a U.S. Army vehicle in Soviet uniforms? If they had used psychic powers on the U.S. guards, then they must have done that with the kids in the jalopy as well -- which makes no sense whatsoever. Also, if they're undercover in America, why the hell would they wear Soviet uniforms at all? As for the psychic powers, why would they have to be on a Jean Grey level? I never doubted that Spalko had powers but that they didn't extend much further than being able to read minds. Their whole mission was to retrieve an artifact which could ENHANCE the powers of Soviet mind warriors. There were a lot of things wrong with KOTCS, but the items you mentioned weren't among them.

  • Indy 4 is not cool, people. Not cool at all. I'm still waiting for my Blu Ray box to arrive with the mail, and I'm gonna grab disc 4, snap it in 2, and send it back to Skywalker Ranch.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Gabba-uk - so full of holes...

    by irishraidersfan

    ... You don't mention a single one. Criticism is supposed to be based on building an argument. You don't. You expect us to take your word as fact. An eager scientist who scans the environment for pathogens finds none and takes his helmet off in an oxygen environment. An inquisitive scientist tries to reach out to a creature a la Attenborough with the Gorillas. Where there daft plot points? Sure, but same goes for the classic Alien. If people don't do some stupid things in 'haunted house' movies, the story dies. So full of holes? Tell us.

  • If they want to do another, fine i'll watch it, cut down the cgi, more diverse and menacing bad guys and dont forget the cliffhanger moment missing from the last one. It'd be nice if they could go out on a better Indy than KOTCS, which had a lot of good stuff in it, but also some REALLY misjudged stuff as well. Its clear to see from comments both the beard's have made that the internet negativity surrounding KOTCS and for that matter the prequels have filtered back to them. A guy just starting out in his career presumably would think, "right, i'll give em what they want next time". At this point in Spielberg's career and Lucas being in semi-retirement, i'd probably just think "pfft, fuck it".

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST

    This news fills me with complete apathy

    by albert comin

    To think i lived long enough to feel total desinterest for the news of a new Indiana Jones movie. To think i saw an Indy movie so bad i had to re-check the poster to see if Michael Bay hadn't directed it. And to think i used to rate the Last Crusade as the bad Indy movie! How things change! As the former poster said, "Let it go, Indy! Let it go!"

  • Once and for all, start making movies you truly want to make, and not this fanboy ass-kissing crap (Crystal Skull) or oscar baits crap (War Horse). It would be greatly appreciated. And if the long time fanboys resent your change of direction into a more adult oriented movies like "Munich", fuck them! It's about time, Mr Spielberg, you gain enough courage to say "fuck off" to the fanboys. If the fanboys can't appreciate the fact you have evolved and grew, and can't understand that you are no longer the young man who made "Jaws" or "Raiders", then fuck them, it's their fault for not keeping up. Yours truly, a fan.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 3:40 a.m. CST

    banned_dirty_ape

    by tempurasan

    We basically quarrel over subjective sequences in the movies now, and whether or not you and I qualify them as tension filled then leading into funny and exciting action. You act as if I'm blindly in love with the film even though I found none of such examples you listed. I'm not arguing that Indy 4 is a better film, nor was it the best film of the series. I simply say that the film is in very much the same vein and spirit as the other three, and that most people that hated the film quoted examples that the other three films are just as guilty for. That's my fucking point. but if you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, I will oblige you for a little bit. You listed instances of tension in the first three films and complained that there were none in Indy4, yet you were polite enough to list an example of which in the film. Yes, the quick sand scene was a small example of what you would quantify as tension filled and then lead into exciting and funny action. But the film was also filled with these little moments. I love the whole sequence that starts in the bar after Indy meets Mutt for the first time. The little plot advancement in the scene is interesting enough, but watch what Spielberg is doing with the scene. He could have just have them sit there and talk, but watch the way Mutt interacts with the environments around him. He casually steals beer, nonchalantly dips his comb into other people's drinks and just display a general air of defiance and arrogance about him. It tells so much about the character that most people just simply dismisses. Even the whole set is brilliantly constructed. No extra in the scene acts like an extra. It's a detailed bar with interesting and realistic things happening behind him. Even the way he kicks off the motorcycle scene, which in and of itself a great little chase sequence filled with "exciting and funny action", with having Mutt cold cock a jock then starting a full on bar fight between the jocks and the greasers is natural and witty. Then there is the relentlessness of the jungle chase, filled with great little moments like Mutt fencing between two speeding vehicles and his mother coaching him like he's at a sporting event. There's the great fist fight surrounded by men eating ants. You complained there is no great Indy theme moment in the film, but there is the hat retrieval scene on top of the ant hill. If you deny that's a great moment, it doesn't mean that it isn't a great moment, it just means we disagree on what makes a great Indy moment. But to just list examples of cute moments like these is to miss half what makes a Spielberg movie a great movie. He has great visual touches and visual short hands that he uses to portray character and mood that to list them is break apart the parts that make the sum. In these little moments he tells the story in a much more efficient and entertaining way that most directors working in Hollywood today. And Indy 4 is FILLED with them. Spielberg has amass such vast film vocabulary over his years as a director that he just jam packs them into the film. What makes Spielberg even better is that he doesn't even call attention to these moments, instead he let them play out in such a subtle way they build characters and mood instead of just be "cute" moments. Finally, you complained of no great supporting characters. Mutt is great. No matter how you feel about Shia, either from your dislike of the Transformers films, or that he isn't simply your typical Hollywood straight man, the dude is a great actor. He always put the role ahead of himself, even if it means he puts himself down and sacrifice the "hunk" image. And Mutt is a well written and fleshed out character. He displays a lot of the recklessness and arrogance of Indy himself, and tries to work himself out of a pickle the same way Indy would. Yet he is not a clone of Indy, he is much more spunky and has a big chip on his shoulder. he has a lot of charisma and is fun to watch. When it really comes down to it, no film maker stays the same way, and retains the same sensibility or skill set throughout his career, and Spielberg has had a long and illustrious one. No one makes Schindler's lists, Saving Private Ryan, and Munich and then turn around and just go right back to making fun and light action adventure flicks. A film maker matures. Spielberg decides to go back to make fun and exciting action flicks, and he picked the most fun and exciting action series to pick up from. There's a little learning curve, some offbeat humor (monkeys and gophers) that doesn't entirely work, and a few fumbles, but that doesn't mean it invalidates the whole film. It's a great film, filled with what makes Indiana Jones the great character he is. But he's also a little older, as is Spielberg, so there's a little change in the sensibilities of the character, but nothing that takes away from that character. What makes it so fun is to see the same character after he has experienced life and midlife (the film has a great moment of him lamenting loss and regret), and watch how he brings all that experience to this new adventure that he embarks on. If you still disagree, know that a majority of the critics, same ones geeks so quickly go to to prove their points for Transformers and such, agree with me. As it stands, the film still retains a 77% on rottentomatoes. Don't bother comparing that score to rottentomatoes score for the other films. This system of recording and compiling data was not available back then, therefore to compare it is apples and oranges.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 3:44 a.m. CST

    @Mr superxy

    by albert comin

    Mayeb you're right, maybe we do overreact and are too severe in regard to Crystal Skull. However, i disagree. The movie deserves the harsh criticism it gets. It's a bad movie on it's own right. But the thing is, this is an Indiana Jones movie, and those are no ordinary movies. An Indiana Jones movie are supposed to be the top of the game. As the tag line once run, adventure has a name and it's Indiana Jones. They are the highmark, and they are what adventure/action movies aspire to be when they grew up. And if a merely mediocre Indy movie will not do, how much worst a truly bad one? Indy movies are supposed to be the top best of the adventure genre. The half-assed stuff we got with Crystal Skull is completly unaceptable. I'm not going to lower my standards just to accept a mediocre movie that wants to be part of the hallowed Indy film series.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 3:46 a.m. CST

    It's up to Lucas to write the script!

    by Volllllume3

    HAHAHAHAHAHA, please don't fucking bother.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Lawrence Kasdan...

    by T0KY0SEXWHALE

    That's what's missing. Lucas is still an ideas man but can't write for shit. Bring in Kasdan to write the script. He's responsible for making Raider's AND Empire fantastic scripts.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Go old school

    by bill

    An Indiana Jones film should be low use of cgi. That (not LeBouf. Transformers aside, he's a good actor) made me cringe in Skulls. Indie movies are about old school movies and movie making; spit'n'sawdust special effects, stunts and camera tricks. I'd like to see an older Indie. Harrison Ford's grizzled old man was The only thing that made Cowboys and Aliens worth watching (made me wish someone would make a remake of The Searchers). And as a long time Indiana Jones fan, I still have one unanswered question: How did Indie lose his eye?

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 4:15 a.m. CST

    lucas and Kasdan fell out...

    by emeraldboy

    a very long time ago. and havent spoken since..

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Have another biblical artefact

    by DexterMorgan

    The stone tablets with the 10 commandments or something. Keep it earth-based at any rate! Keep the CGI to a minimum, and have lots of practical stunts and chases. The best part of KOTC was the motorcycle chase.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 5:23 a.m. CST

    On the up side

    by Thall_Joben

    Thank fuck GL never reads this fucking 'feedback', what a bunch of ungrateful whiny bitches. The last one had it's (mostly cgi) flaws, but it was still lots of fun. Harrison has more old fashioned classic movie star greatness than anyone in Hollywood, he still rocked it in Crystal. Stop moaning you childish pathetic fucks, bring in Indy 5!!

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 5:31 a.m. CST

    one very early draft for INdy four was

    by emeraldboy

    all about a nail with a peace of christ's flesh on it. Indy has to find this priceless artefact before it gets into the wrong hands. the berg nixed that idea. and for a while there was no script...then jeff nathanson came along. the rest is history...

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 6:11 a.m. CST

    fuck a macguffin

    by James

    It's really fucking irritating when you hear them talk about a macguffin and how hard it is to think of one. Just shut the FUCK up, fat neck waddle dickslob.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Red Ape

    by James

    Okay, so he's gotta find the Red Ape. Find that Red Ape, Indy! WHOOOOAAAAHHH!!! He just got launched in the air! tpbpbphhhh

  • You're welcome.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 7:28 a.m. CST

    SQUEAL INDIANA! SQUEAL!!!

    by gruemanlives

    LITTLE PIGGIE!!!

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    tempurasan..you fucking don't have a clue, do you?

    by NightArrows

    The BIGGEST PROBLEM with Indy 4 is almost everything outside of the Aliens themselves. The script is shit, every scene requires exposition and back-fill. It's so fucking tedious at times, and at others it's downright embarrassing (it looks like an Opra reunion show). There is NO SENSE OF DANGER anywhere in that film outside of maybe the motorcycle chase, which is about the only thing that feels "Indy". The waterfall "gag" was fucking cringe inducing. The Ants were laughably bad and fucknut LeBeef sword fighting and getting his nuts hit was too much to take...oh and the monkey vine swinging too. Too many tag-alongs. It's Indy's show, not a fucking caravan of the worthless. The list goes on. That you think the previous 3 films are the same means that you are a fucking mongoloid and should strap on a helmet and go sit in the basement next to Sloth and wait for your daily Baby Ruth bar. Fucking idiot.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Please George - Listen to Indiana´s father Henry Jones

    by Johan

    - Indiana, Indiana. Let it go.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Crystal would have been bearable if Ford didn't look so OLD

    by JGer

    It sucks out loud, don't get me wrong, but my biggest gripe was that Harrison Ford just looked distracting with his puffy, jowly face. If they had made it even 10 or so years earlier, circa Air Force One/What Lies Beneath, I probably would have grinned my way through it. That whole stretch in the late 90s, early 2000s they could have pumped out two or three more Indy films, easy.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Syntax

    by Goon One

    Hey, Kidd, my name is Syntax, a superhero who fixes language where language needs fixing. Remember, one "toes" the company line, one does not "tow" it.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Have Short Round take over the franchise.

    by SkitZo

    Do the story somewhat similar to Last Crusade, where Short Round has to resuce Old-Ass Indy and then they spend of the rest of the movie bickering and hilarity and adventure will ensue.

  • To bad this didn't happen last time...

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    I think George Lucas is a good story-teller.

    by SkitZo

    As long as that story-telling doesn't involve writing or directing.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Crystal Skull was not a debacle.

    by Dreamfasting

    I detest the way this movie gets bullied around. We asked and asked for a movie to revist our nostalgia and catch up with our childhood hero a generation later and we got one that, at least to me, was well worth the price of admission.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:26 a.m. CST

    "We'll never be able to un-see that."

    by phifty2

    You guys act like Crystal Skull was abomination on par with Troll 2. Relax. It really isn't that bad. I'm sure it's better than that sucky vampire movie this site praises.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST

    dreamfasting

    by gruemanlives

    Please keep your opinions to yourself.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:35 a.m. CST

    I agree, Crystal Skull wasn't a debacle.

    by SkitZo

    Compared to the previous three, it was the weakest though. I'll take a half-ass Spielberg movie any day. It just didn't live up to the fans high expectations...not sure if anything would have. It needs to be rebooted with somebody who loves the material and will do it justice. Get it away from the beard and into the hands of somebody who will approach it from a new perspective. Same goes for Star Wars.

  • yes it was. very ridiculous. even more ridiculous than having Batman's broken back fixed with some rope.

  • Stop pissing on Crystal Skull. It was no worse or better than Temple or Crusade. If Raiders never existed, we would have trashed Temple of Doom and the other movies would never have happened.

  • It was a different sequel than the others. Last Crusade and Crystal Skull seemed like they were trying to capture the magic of the first one. Temple of Doom was darker and shed Indy in more of hero type role.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST

    WRAP it UP

    by Dr.007

    there's no getting over Ford is old so use it better than the tired old man has an unexpected child gag. figure out how Indy should go out this time and build the film towards that goal - whatever device is necessary as the maguffin, instead of cobbling a bunch of odd set pieces together without a point. (stopping nazis, freeing enslaved children, saving his Dad - better motivations than cold war blahness) Have the knight from last crusade once again recruit Indy to take over as a guardian of the Grail - but make him hunt for its new location again - shangri la can be employed as the final new location. Indy can revist some old allies along his hunt, fight off evil intending bad guys along the way, and then we leave him at the end in Shangri La; eternal, surrounded by the most revered objects of legend... the fucking end.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST

    For those who say that Crystal Skull wasn't a Debacle... Keep in Mind

    by gruemanlives

    Swinging Monkeys, Ridiculous Fire Ants, Nuking the fridge, Cate Blanchett as a boring villain, years and money for development, practically unlimited film production resources... I'd say it was a debacle.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST

    DocPaz you misunderstand me

    by D.Vader

    Perhaps I wasn't clear enough with that post. I'm certainly not faulting the film for that confusion. I readily admit my confusion over that scene was entirely my fault. Like I said, my expectations of seeing psychic soldiers and the knowledge that they were Russian confused me bc I didn't see the US tags and I was not used to that style of army wear for that period. It's not a fault of the film at all. I was just relaying an anecdote. I did say "another weakness of the film", but I was referring to the lack of psychic stuff there. That may have been what misled you. The lack of psychic stuff is not a weakness. I should have reiterated its just something I would have liked to have seen bc I expected it so much (to the point of confusing me in those scenes).

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Lost City of

    by Ingeld

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST

    I will always have a soft spot for George Lucas

    by badbart43

    in my heart for creating Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Excepting for Episode III, which was pretty damn good, he has lost his edge in film-making. Too be honest, many of the post-Jedi books in the EU are much much better than the prequels. Some of the Indy books are better than Crystal Skull. I was a fan of some of the improvements done to "The Trilogy" but not all of them...see Greedo firing first and the Jabba scene....maybe Lucas needs to understand that he is basically the "idea" guy and let other people write his scripts or at the least flesh them out after he does a barebones draft. He can get upset all he wants at the fans and I heard him say something like these are "my movies" and I can do what I want with them. George, no...these are "our movies" we paid money to see them, to buy them on all the formats, we bought the toys and video games. Stop screwing with our first love!!!

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST

    this site is full of film libs...

    by emeraldboy

    who partake in the culture of blame. blame the director, the writer, blame the studio, blame. the cast and on it goes. hard left socialists do this sort off stuff all the time blame bankers, property developers, speculators, blame the media. after a while it gets boring.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    why do people keep blaming Lucas for Crystal Skull?

    by Titus05

    it was Spielberg that wanted the sci-fi story...Spielberg fucked up the movie not George Lucas

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Gabba-UK, I don't think you know what plot holes are

    by D.Vader

    Like irishraidersfan said, I'd like to hear what you consider plot holes to be. Hey you don't like Prometheus, fine. You want to criticize its weaknesses, fine. But please do it correctly, don't lie in an attempt to make a joke.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    bilboring, you are just flat wrong about Skull being equal to Doom and Crusade

    by SergeantStedenko

    I agree that those films aren't equal to Raiders, but then not many films are. But, Temple of Doom was a hell of a lot of fun, yet didn't insult your intelligence and was very well-crafted. Crusade had great chemistry between Connery and Ford. It's hard to find anything positive to say about Crystal Skull, from Shia Lebouf's lame Junior to mind-numbingly stupid shit that happened. But the most glaring thing was the lack of fun.

  • FUCK OFF!!

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST

    emeraldboy

    by D.Vader

    Leave that shit at the door, please.

  • Old George Lucas and his Empire are just warming over and reheating the ideas of Young George Lucas. It seems that George hasn’t had a new(ish) idea since Willow, and hasn’t had a good one since Raiders. Setting aside the Guaranteed Big Cash Prize of franchises for a moment (let’s pretend that’s not the primary motivation), the occasional prequel or sequel are fine so long as they expand the original concept (see The Godfather: Part II, Aliens, The Road Warrior, and of course The Empire Strikes Back). All of these follow-on Indiana Jones and Star Wars things can’t help but dilute the original visions, which depended on the audience painting in the surrounding details themselves. The reason Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark worked was that we were dropped into the middle of an ongoing adventure and given the slightest bit of exposition to cling to as we held on for the ride and figured it out as we went. We didn’t need to know why Indy was afraid of snakes or who gave him his hat or how Darth Vader got a suit of life support armor (it took THREE MOVIES to get Vader into that helmet? REALLY? I knew he was a badass the moment he emerged from the smoke aboard Leia’s blockade runner. Could’ve given us the whole lava planet duel in a single flashback). Explaining it to us in painfully explicit detail is not only unnecessary, it can’t possibly do justice. When Leia reminded Obi Wan of his service during the Clone Wars, I thought they were something exciting, not a trade dispute between the Naboobies and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………. oh, sorry, where was I? Besides, if these Star Wars and Indy horses have at long last been beaten to death (and flayed, and tanned, and filleted, and made into sausage, and boiled down for gelatin and glue), there as so many other franchise opportunities in George Lucas’ repertoire. Just imagine… “American Graffiti Episode One: The Phantom Mustang” “THX 1139” “The Young Madmartigan Chronicles” “The Captain EO Holiday Special” Just remember, if we buy it, it will come.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Indy goes in search of Geritol.

    by magazoid

    It's done, It's over. Just let it go.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Why does Temple ALWAYS get a pass!?

    by Bartleby T. Scrivener

    You talk about not in the spirit of Indiana Jones movies? He's not even searching for anything - he stumbles across a village that believes in magic rocks and finds a child slave labor camp - Where's the fucking adventure in that?

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    It makes Indy a righteous hero, Bartleby!

    by D.Vader

    How do you not see the adventure in stealing relics from a dangerous cult, fighting Thuggee goons, saving slave children, going on a minecart chase, cutting a rope bridge in two, etc etc etc!

  • And someone is responsible for Crystal Skull and the Prequels sucking shite through a straw. And that person's name begins with a "Luc" and ends with and "as."

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST

    That shot in ironman sucks gigantic shit beef money swing cocks

    by UltraTron

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    that was supposed to read shit beef monkey swing cocks

    by UltraTron

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    All this Indy talk makes me want to play some scum engine Indy action

    by UltraTron

  • All the pathetic slagging of Shia and the computer graphics was shit. Fuck it's far superior a movie to Temple of doom. Look at the shit jump out a plane with a dinghy pish. I want another one.

  • There is just ZERO chance of it being good, let alone great. At least, the one positive thing is that we won't be getting the Adventures of Mutt anytime soon. Because, you know that is what Lucas and Spielberg were totally setting that character up for.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Indy 5 could work

    by Benja the Ninja

    The one thing for me that was working with Indy 4 was Indiana Jones. Harrison Ford handled the road like no time had passed. And for that I would give another movie a chance. Why not? What if they get it right this time. It won't be Raiders, but what if it's another Last Crusade. That's still pretty amazing. Lawrence Kasdan writing would be ideal, but only if his heart is in it. That's the key. If they haven't completely offended him; Frank Darabont should get another try. His screenplay for Indy 4 was 80 times better... Had a little cheese in it, but was still so much stronger.

  • If anything, they completely invalidate it.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Short Jar-Jar Round

    by Bulvai

    If it's up to Lucas, then pass. He'll further destroy another fantastic series

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Do something DARK and GRITTY

    by ScreamingPenis

    It can work. But it means not listening to studio research and studio execs about trying to appeal to a younger audience. It means not having Mutt or a supporting cast of buddies. Just maked it wicked and non-politically correct.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Temple of Doom is a great movie!

    by Dan

    I don't need to slag one in favor of the others...give it a rest...

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    I still hold out hope...

    by bubcus

    I still hold a great deal of admiration for him. I love his interviews and he is a great visionary. I enjoyed Crystal Skull for the most part and it felt consistent with the rest of the series. Sure, I could do without the swinging monkeys and the climax was comparatively weak, but it was great to have Indy back and I would love to see more. I have sat here wondering if there's anything to be done involving writings like the Dead Sea Scrolls or some other religious mystery in the 50s and 60s. Hopefully Lucas comes up with something great. I still have faith in the man.

  • And leave Indy and SW alone.

  • ... imagine explosive diarrhea in 3D. Box office gold I tells ya! >_< Just Sayin...

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Kidd- a sorry excuse of a writer for a now sorry excuse for a movie site.

    by vetepalapinga

    Lucas NEVER wrote a IJ script, you ignorant twat. He comes up with the stories and produces. This isn't news. This is more talkback bait for idiots like creepyman to bitch about irrelevant shit like other people's opinions and counter factuals.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:10 a.m. CST

    darabont's crystal skull script

    by JAMF

    was SO MUCH better i can't believe it. even with the same story elements, it's just a better read. none of that shit with the son and indy's gf, it's just good.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Saying it doesn't make it so.

    by tailhook

    I still am flabberghasted at the faux 'love' for Temple of Doom. Lets face it.. Crystal Skull wasn't much better, but both movies were a hot mess. Basically.. what were you.. 3-8 when you first saw it? The dingy jump must have blown your mind! OMG DID YOU HIDE YOUR EYES WHEN HEARTS WERE RIPPED FROM THE CHEST! Did Mommy comfort you and tell you it would be allright! There are some films that when you first see them when you were very young just have a completely different feel then seeing them when you are older. Temple of Doom is one of those. Its still a fairly bad film and far closer to Crystal Skull than the other two films than people want to admit.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Senior Citizen Discount at Denny's

    by SergeantStedenko

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Adding an allcaps "FACT!" to the end of your opinion doesn't make it a fact. FACT!

    by Randall Luttenberg

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST

    I hope he meant George Costanza!!!!

    by The_Maxx

    Now thats a script I would pay to see

  • It was a boys own adventure that existed in a time and place when it was relevant. With the way console games have evolved it is hard for charcaters like Indiana Jones to take kids on that thrill ride he took us on in the early 80s. Lucas has more than shit on his own work with the star wars prequals, and Crystral Skull. He's only doing damage to his legacy by continually revisiting his glory days. Let Indiana Jones stay where he is in retirement. We don't need the brand watered down even further. Lucas hasn't shown a single sign that he can add to the mythology of any of his previous work.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Give the series an ending

    by mattbenzing

    We don't need a reboot. Have old Indy come out of retirement for one last adventure. Let him die at the end, give him a heroic death. All the old heroes of legend died and their deaths are important to their stories: Achilles, Samson, King David, King Arthur, Robin Hood, even Sherlock Holmes...why do our heroes just go on forever rebooting? Set it in the world of Greek mythology this time, give it some of the pulpy terror of "The Great God Pan". What a great movie this could be.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST

    indy 5

    by aaron cassese

    crystal skull was a great movie that had a few scenes that tainted it, most of which had shia front and center. I think if it can be done in a timely manner with lucas coming up with the story and handing it off to someone good to write the screenplay we could have another great Indy movie

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST

    As many have said..Nobody wants to see

    by conspiracy

    ...a geriatric Indiana Jones. And moving Indy into the Jet age was a mistake...Indy exists in some mythical time after WW1 but before WW2...when a scientist might also be a rugged adventurer exploring cannibal lands in South America and the South Pacific...swilling manly drinks and wooing feisty dangerous women in far off foreign cities that it took days if not weeks to get too,...and for the typical human was as reachable and familiar as Mars. Moving Indy into the harsh realities of the modern era...where Singapore is a fairly luxurious 12hr flight away to just about anyone with a grand or two laying around is a mistake...there is no mystery to the Nuclear/Jet age, and certainly no place for a hard drinking, two fisted, womanizing, lolita chasing professor. Put Indy back in his time...a time of the British Empire, Indian Raja's, rugged individuals who wrote their own rules, unexplored Jungles and mysterious mist shrouded temples..that's where he belongs. I say...Animate it....it's the only way.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Harrison Ford is dead!

    by RichieRich

    When it comes to any new roles that is. Don't get me wrong.. Ford used to be the mother fuckin man when it came to Indiana Jones and his other action roles. But when you watch him in interviews, movies, etc... man, he just seems like a grumpy old man now. Not charismatic, not into it, and just plain disinterested. It's sad to see. It's like he's a different person now, mumbling and stumbling about. Bad acting, etc. Some other old guys still manage to keep their head in the game so I'm not sure what happened to Ford. He's got my respect but let's just end it. Get someone else and come up with a new adventure franchise...

  • Go back the the OT and its Macguffins. Use state of the art science and speculation and, while not revisiting the ark, revisit the world it came from.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    the macguffin should be a lightsaber

    by Stephen

    and it turns out the Jones family line is descended from Han Solo. And have Tom Selleck as evil Indy from a parallel dimension yesssssssssss.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:41 p.m. CST

    There's a difference between film lovers....

    by tempurasan

    .... and film watchers. A film lover is one that when he/she watches a movie, he/she looks at all aspects of the film. From the cinematography, to the editing, to story telling and acting. He/she watches for subtext and subtlety as well as the big moments, and consider how everything is working together to present an experience, and if all the parts add up to a greater sum. Then there's the film watchers. Basically these folks just want a story told to them, like how their parents told them a bed time story. They don't care about anything but the most surface of all things. Except a film lover grows out of this face and develop an appreciation for the medium, and a film watcher just grows up to be insufferable fuckwads that can't let any inconsistency in the story go. They don't care about anything else in the film. That's okay, you don't have to be a film lover and still be a good person. But if you insist on calling yourself a film lover, get a fucking clue.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Pirates 4 was a decent indie-like adventure

    by gaygoonie

    Very similar in structure to Raiders. Too bad it used the Fountain of Youth idea. I think the alien thing in 4 was pointless. The '30s style characters didn't mesh well with the '50s story. And Shia was just miscast - I like him but not here.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Indiana....Indiana....

    by IWasInJuniorHighDickhead

    let it go.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Pirates 4 does not exist in this dojo

    by ScreamingPenis

  • "Dead Concepts" don't make close to a Billion Dollars...

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE TALKBACK OF BITCHY MANCHILDREN

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE FANBOY DOGPILE

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE HYPERBOLIC KNOW-IT-ALLS

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Sorry George, time has passed you by....

    by Han Cholo

    I never thought I would say it but Lucas is done as far as being a creative force. The man has become the very thing he fought against all those years ago when he was trying to put Star Wars together - a Corporation. <p> I guarantee Lucas never thought Star Wars would have made as much as it did but he went on to make billions of dollars, which change the way most people think and do things. <p> I think the money went to his head and he lost the creative edge most people have when money is an issue. There have only been a few directors who haven't let the influx of cash interfere with their creative process. <p> Money = bad for creativity.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST

    you know what needs a reboot?

    by Stephen

    Star Wars.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST

    SW prequels need....

    by Benja the Ninja

    a reboot... Not the classic films.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE APOLOGETIC FANBOYS FOR LUCAS

    by SergeantStedenko

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND ONE FINAL CASH GRAB

    by SergeantStedenko

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE GHOSTS OF RAPED CHILDHOODS PAST

    by SergeantStedenko

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Confuse cinematic art with the movie business we must not…

    by Randall Luttenberg

    Creative thinking and chance-taking cinematic art depends on. Risk-free asses in seats the movie business rewards. If pay for shit we will, squat and push will the studio hacks. Whine not. Buy, or buy not. There is no whine.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    INDY IV was okay, not great, but okay

    by Gorgomel

    I liked the beginning, the cold war setting, Indy in Nuketown and the ending was perfect. the hideous CGI and the "aliens" are the only problems I have with this picture.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Stupidest line in the story above...

    by TheApostle

    ...it's once again reopened the debate as to whether we need or even want another Indy movie.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Wahhhhhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhh

    by Darr Furr

    George is laughing at all of you chimps. If he releases Indy V, you very same monkeys will be lining up. George won.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Will never happen..we hurt George's feelings last time...

    by Darth Macchio

    He even said it himself when asked if he'd revisit the main characters from Star Wars... Something along the lines of "No..not a chance..people just get mad and hate it no matter what you do" (yes, very paraphrased). So, no, not gonna happen until we apologize to George. All of us. And then we have to touch a poodle's butt with our bare hands as punishment. George has to take photos of us doing that so he can show the world that he was right all along and all the haters are really weirdo's who love touching the butt's of poodles with our bare hands. I mean how seriously can you take the opinion of someone who's poking a poodle in the ass with their finger? Not very seriously at all, thank you very much.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 6:27 p.m. CST

    by ken James

    I agree with a few of the Crystal Skull supporters here... It is just like the other three... except that those that are bitchin' and moaning over how terrible the last film was remember the first three films through rose-tainted pleasing memories of long ago. If they were to honestly analyze/critique each film objectively, they would find that all four films are outlandish tales of rousing adventure... pure and simple. Then, again... haters.... especially anonymous ones... will always hate!

  • Wo ye hen gaoxing renshi........ni

  • Wo ye hen gaoxing renshi........ni

  • And it doesn't involve one ounce of CGI monkey, ant, or Shia, gophers,etc. The natural era to set this in would be the early 60's - the cold war is on, and Kruschev (the soviet leader) gets wind of the existence of the staff of sun wu kong, the Monkey King of Chinese legend (no, still no cgi monkies, george, it's just a title). The staff is said to have weighed 10,000 pounds and, in this iteration, the staff is also said to have the ability to call forth an army of wu kong's immortal warriors - hundreds of thousands, even millions of them - so whichever nation weilded the staff would win any battle with these immortals - this idea is tempting to all sides, as it is a natural deterrent and an alternative to the dirtier side, all out nuclear war. So, Kruschev, the Americans, and the Chinese are all out to find the thing. A secret Nazi faction, operating in shadows and planning to resurrect Hitler's ideals in a 1000 year 4th reich, also have their eyes set on it. In fact...Hitler himself has his eyes on it. That's right. It's 1961, and Adolf Hitler is still alive. It's NOT exactly an unthinkable occurence - many swore up and down that they saw him in Argentina, a real body was never found, and the skull fragment said to be his was a woman's. Bruno Ganz, of course, plays Hitler. Indy of course seeks the staff for safekeeping in a museum. Arriving in Beijing, he's perusing the library in search of texts on the legend, and a man's voice behind him says "Renshi ni hen gaoxing....Dr. Jones." (Nice to meet you in Mandarin)

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Ok now part II of the Indy V idea:

    by wcolbert

    Wo ye hen gaoxing renshi........ni

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST

    I WILL KILL YOU AICN...one more try for part II

    by wcolbert

    Wo ye hen gaoxing renshi........ni

  • "Wo ye hen gaoxing renshi....ni?" says Indy as he turns around and recognizes the man...it's Shortround! Now grown, of course, and still played by the same man. Shorty, or as he insists on being called his real name, Cheng Wei, is now an archeologist at the university in Beijing. He'd heard of Indy's arrival through an old friend in India, who Indy visited on the way in (and did not eat the cuisine). He's also been studying the legend - and he knows Indy'll need his help in his old age. So he insists...and begrudgingly...Indy lets him come. Their trek starts in Beijing, and criss-crosses the ancient hills of China on the trail of the staff's location. There are run-ins with 4th Reich officers...and Hitler himself, who has set up a base of operations deep in the hilly forests. Eventually, their journey leads them to the final resting place of the staff - a cave high in the Himalayan mountain range - once the ornate mountaintop palace of the monkey king. The Germans, the Soviets, and the Americans are closing in, but the Germans and Soviets beat the Americans to the punch, and are already there when Indy and Shortround arrive. A battle of sorts ensues. There is, of course, an oversized muscular henchman for Indy to fight. Shorty shows off his now more developed Kung fu skills (now that he's an adult, his kicks hurt a lot more). Indy uses the line "It's not the mileage....it's the years." At least once in the film. Perhaps a short voiceover by Sean Connery (Indy could have a "memory" moment while thinking of dear old dad). What greater way to end Indy's adventures than wiping the taste of Crystal Skull from our mouths and getting rid of all needles CGI and Shia? He's been to Europe, the middle East, to West Asia, to africa...it's time his adventures took him to the far East! China is ripe with storytelling and artifact possibilities. That's why I think it is the perfect setting. Do it down and dirty, with NO cgi if you can help it - the way you used to. Film it like you filmed Last Crusade. Use real film. There's no need to get flashy effects in there (other than for the use of the staff)....and NO need for an entourage of actors. Especially Shia. If they made THIS movie, I guarantee people would like it a whole HELL of a lot more than Crystal Skull. George Lucas....you have my permission to use it. I don't even need credit or pay. Just keep the cgi and shia and your cutesy animals away. This is harrison's movie - NOT shia's - that's the mistake Crystal Skull made above all others. We don't care that he's 70. He's still way cooler than Shia could ever hope to be.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST

    nathan fillion or nobody.

    by Arcadian

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Only odd numbered IJ films are any good

    by BBSloth

    Raiders = good Temple = bad Crusade = good Skull = bad IJ5 = good...?

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST

    How about Indiana Jones and the Curse of the Camel's Toe?

    by Gary Makin

    No?

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST

    wcolbert, the quotation marks are your downfall

    by D.Vader

    Always best to copy what you type before you paste. I've had to get into that habit bc this two year old "temporary" talkback code still fucking sucks.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:18 p.m. CST

    hmm...should've noticed that. Thanks d.vader :)

    by wcolbert

    I do try to copy whenever I can with this site for that reason - I never picked up on it being caused by the quotation marks, though.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:25 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE LOST TIME MACHINE

    by Ye Not Guilty

    It's the only way to re-boot. While Harrison Ford may have one more Indiana Jones film left in him, it would be the last chance to re-boot and pass the torch on to a younger actor. Here's my idea - somebody finds the Ark in that government warehouse and destroys Washington DC with it. Indiana Jones has to travel through time to keep himself from finding the Ark in the first place, yet keep it from the Nazis at the same time. In the process, he accidentally creates a new timeline that continues on after he travels back to his own timeline. This way we can enjoy Indiana Jones fighting Nazis one more time, as it should be. All Indiana Jones needs is some red matter to power the time machine . . .

  • everybody involved in making Indy 4 had high hopes. it was exciting to bring the old team together again. they didn't go into it thinking, "hey, let's make a bad movie." Even Pitof, the director of "Catwoman," didn't go into production thinking, "hey, let's make a movie worthy of MST3K!"

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:36 p.m. CST

    wcolbert, i think you're onto something there. that's a respectable pitch.

    by Buck Turgidson

    the nazi stuff is iffy, but what would indy be without nazis? and the China tie-in is beautiful-- music to hollywoods ear nowadays (falling over themselves trying to find ways to capitalize on a Chinese populace hungry for cinema). I know nothing about the mythology you refer to, but your pitch makes want to learn more. I like it. Kudos to you.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Yoni/Lingam

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    I'm pretty sure this might be Lucas's formula for the MacGuffins. Yoni = Vagina Lingam = Phallus RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK - Yoni/Ark TEMPLE OF DOOM - Lingam/Stones THE LAST CRUSADE - Yoni/Grail KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL - Lingam/Skull INDY V - Yoni/?

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST

    ye not guilty, the time machine idea's cool too

    by Buck Turgidson

    the ark of the convenant screams to be revisited. And the notion of mixing Indy with the first genuine, great science fiction story--that, arguably, has yet to have a successful cinematic treatment--is intriguing.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 12:07 a.m. CST

    tempurasan

    by Cadillac Jones

    Preach it, brother!

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 12:15 a.m. CST

    VADERS OF THE BOSSK GUNDARK

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    Just some meaningless word play. Move along.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Indy vs. Cthulhu is the best idea ever.

    by frank

    It would work better with a younger Indy of course, but it could still be cool with an old one. They should have done that instead of Temple of Doom. Would have been a much cooler cult. Any new Indiana Jones movie should feature a grown-up Short Round. He and Indy could discover the Plateau of Leng. If Shia LeBouf has to be in it, he should be the one to go insane from existential terror at the end.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Really should copy the City Slickers formula

    by viks

    Have an aging badass (Indy) helping a group of new characters on a grand adventure... Start the movie at Marion's funeral. Have Mutt leave, never to return, or heck use him and his friends as the group, i don't mind mutt as long as he's not swinging from vines.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Reboot it.

    by Amity75

    With Bradley Cooper as Indy. Either that or wait till mo cap is at an advanced enough level so they can make photo realistic people then just churn out a shitload of Indy movies using Fords image.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Hated first 3 if seen in theaters??

    by stethlenon

    I saw all three of the good Indy films in the theater. Crystal Skull still sucked donkey dick. Jones didn't do a fucking thing except follow his nutty friend around. He could have given the Russians the crystal skull and then gone home and soaked in a bubble bath doing crossword puzzles and the ending of the film would have been exactly the same. They'd have put the head on the fucking stupid alien and then would have all died and the spaceship would have gone bye-byes. Waste of two hours for a story Indiana Jones didn't even need to involve himself in.

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    I don't understand the hate for Indie IV

    by Michael Morning

    I really enjoyed Crystal Skull. Yes, I thought the CGI and various sets that really LOOKED like sets were over used, but the story and characters I thought were great. And the end was terrific...his hat blowing over to his son, but him retrieving it at the last minute. Very symbolic and had me smiling on the way out of the theater. </p> <p> And yes, I liked the son angle and, yes, I liked the aliens (they especially fit really well with the timeline of the movie). The only bummer, I thought, was that Indie's father wasn't in it (but not their fault that Sean Connery retired).

  • Nov. 9, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Thomas Jane as Indiana Jones

    by Mightyman

    Well I have the perfect person to play Indiana Jones: Thomas Jane He fits the role perfectly, is about the right ag,e and is young enough to make at least 3-4 sequels. My Bet Thomas Jane.

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