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Updated With Alternative Endings!! "Home Is Now Behind You, The World Is Ahead" - It's The New Trailer For THE HOBBIT!!

Published at: Sept. 19, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST

The Kidd here...

A picture is worth a thousand words... this latest trailer for THE HOBBIT looks to be worth a lot more than that. Peter Jackson appears to have done it again, as AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY is giving off some epic vibes.

See for yourself...

I'd also recommend watching it in full HD on iTunes to see it in all of its glory. 

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UPDATE: The above isn't the only way to watch the new trailer. While that cut features an ending full of dwarves, there are actually four alternative endings you can choose from, creating your own version of the trailer over at THE HOBBIT official page. They're just a few brief moments after the title card, but extra footage is extra footage.

 

-Billy Donnelly

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  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Gimme

    by UltraTron

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Hell Yes!!!

    by Josh Kenney

    Can't wait for December, please don't let us down Peter!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Man I would like to see Jackson handle Morcock like this.

    by UltraTron

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Still can't get past Thorin's short beard

    by rev_skarekroe

    Why would the king of the dwarves keep his beard trimmed? It doesn't work. Interesting choice for Radagast's design. I like his hedgehog.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Jackson Is The Master!

    by Jeff Grewal

    Is it December yet. Can't wait.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Now that's what I'm talking about!

    by Fah-Cue

    Bitches.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Was this whole thing shot

    by adzigjo

    on green screen? LOTR felt like it was a real world, everything here looked fake... that being said, my ass will be in a seat during the midnight showing

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Oh yes

    by MustGoFaster

    Oh yes

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Cockney dwarves - I thought it was orcs that were cockney?

    by i_got_worms

    Cor blimey, it's 'urting my noggin'!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST

    does seem like more green screen was used

    by sunwukong86

    and Gollum looks more cartoony then he used to

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST

    3....Long....Movies...

    by gruemanlives

    Let's just add in more sweeping landscape shots as filler. The sucker audiences are going to pay to see it anyway.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    BITCHES LEAVE....

    by Ultron ver 2.0

    ....the Dwarves are here.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST

    looks more creatively directed...but at the same time a little gamey

    by zom-bot.com

    ...better shots or angles than lord of the rings, but also a bit green screeny. also lots more flying camera. not saying that's all bad. just an observation from a trailer.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST

    HELL YES BABY!!!!!!

    by BilboRing

    I cannot wait!!! This is going to be amazing!!!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST

    BRING IT HOBBITSES!!!!

    by notcher

    Something great to look forward to for the next three years! Awesome, getting that tingly feeling again!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST

    I think it's because Jackson shot this for 3-D video

    by rev_skarekroe

    So it looks like a soap opera from the '70s instead of an actual film. But hey, it's brand new eyeball fucking resolution! So what if the sets all resemble day-glo papier-mache from a carnival dark ride! Yeah yeah, I know. I'll be seeing it anyway.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST

    good shit

    by VoiceOfSaruman

    Yeah, that shot of the first dwarves arriving at Bag End felt particularly green-screeny, and the Galadriel stuff already seems to feel tacked on, like "look here's Cate Blanchett playing that character again for no reason!" But so much else looks spot on. Captures the tone of the earlier films, with a lighter more comedic touch, which is utterly appropriate. Bilbo's casting is perfect. I think Gollum looks as great as ever. This is going to make an ocean full of money. Audiences are going to love Bilbo and be right there with him, stumbling through this crazy adventure. Still unsure about the three film bit, but optimistic. Speaking of which, I'm hoping this indeed is just a trailer for ONLY the first film; it's looking like this first installment is going to take us up to the escape from the Wargs after the Misty Mountains stretch. Decent ending. Second film opens with Beorn? Christ, I'm a geek.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    I will add the excessive green screen shots concern me as well.

    by notcher

    Hrm.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Christ

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    People on this site will find any small detail to bitch about. Do you really fucking doubt that Peter Jackson is gonna fail to bring it on a massive epic level? Thank quitcherbithcin

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Sold.

    by jack

    December can't be here soon enough.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Norn Irish dwarves FTW.

    by loafroaster

    Thank fuck James Nesbitt is bringing the Nordie accent. Yeooow!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Looks awesome!!

    by Cruzboy

    fo real.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to this

    by skycrapper

    Wonder how the talking eagles will be handled?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    In 20 years, Neal Moritz's "ORIGINAL FILM" will reboot it

    by Joe

    ORIGINAL FILM have specialized in making original films, like remakes and reboots such as Prom Night, 21 Jump Street, Total Recall and the forthcoming Highlander, not to mention six Fast and the Furious movies, three I Know What You Did's, two XXX's (a third on the way), three The Skulls' and three Cruel Intentions'.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    i'm somewhat assured

    by gerry derboven

    The first trailer left me a bit "meh" and all this talk about expanding the story into a trilogy, the 48fps debate and the excessive use of cgi and green screen didn't bode well. but, blimey, gov. ... this is one impressive trailer and i am aching so badly to get to middle earth again. I still have faith in Peter and his crew so, yeah, roll on December.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST

    STING!!!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    That was awesome sauce! I can't effin' wait; I'm so looking forward to this.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Los Angeles is before you, watch out for the Smaug.

    by Smerdyakov

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Haters can suck on it!!

    by ATARI

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Dammit...at work...can't watch yet!

    by kidicarus

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST

    FOOOOOOOK YES, that was GREAT!

    by D.Vader

  • "spoofs" based on it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    The Hobbit TV Show - HBO this Fall

    by Kain_Bloodstone

    Tell me that doesn't look like made for tv. Too much green screen = lazy film making. Gollum looks more like a toon than he did 10 years ago. Jackson is aiming squarely for 8 - 14 year olds. This is Phantom Menace all over again.

  • in her elf outfit and makeup?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    VoiceofSaruman, no, Beorn has gotta be in this

    by D.Vader

    He was in that art banner released months ago, the one that showed many scenes from the movie. They've gotta get to the spiders in this movie so that Bilbo has an arc. He goes from goofy Hobbit out of his element to a hero by the end, killing monsters (the spiders) and saving the Dwarves.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    kain_bloodstone - that is the dumbest thing I have read today...

    by Uncle Pooky

    and I read a ton of dumb shit.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Love the desolation near Dol Guldur

    by D.Vader

  • That's cool too.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST

    um- Gollum looks 'toonier' because he's a bit younger...

    by zom-bot.com

    ..this is, um, the past. even if the movie is ten years older. I have no probs with Gollum at all

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    judenw- not alone,

    by zom-bot.com

    but i liked her look in crystal skull too. she pulls off sugar and spice.

  • That goblin he's dueling has long, ape like arms and his face is displaying a wide range of expression, particularly his wide toothy mouth! Nice work.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Definitely too green-screeny

    by Beebop

    I read that they didn't use Bigatures this time around and everything's digital, which is really disappointing to me - the combination of actual outdoor locations, outstanding models and sets, and digital effects is what makes LOTR so well done. All digital=Star Wars prequels. It just doesn't feel right. (Also, whoever said that Gollum seems more cartoony is right - but maybe that's because he still has the ring and hasn't really devolved into the creepy nutjob without it) (Double also: judenw, Cate Blanchett looks amazing in that getup and you are definitely not the only one who would like do it elfystyle with her)

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST

    zombot i am with you.

    by jack

    loved her look in KOTCS.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Glad to see the Wargs look more wolfish now too

    by D.Vader

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10 a.m. CST

    How shit was Prometheus...

    by Jaymie69

    Seriously...how shit was that film.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST

    I'm still thinking Dwalin may be my favorite Dwarf

    by D.Vader

    Looks like a badass take-no-shit brawler. But he also plays the fiddle!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST

    judenw, me too!

    by Islandboltfan

    Nope, you're not alone. I'd bang her like a screen door in a hurricane. Then make her breakfast in the morning.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    I guess that's the dead Goblin King at the end?

    by D.Vader

    Looks like he has a crown. I guess Gandalf doesn't run him through with Glamdring in this one.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Hey Kain_Bloodstone

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    You know this is based on a book, right? I just... well... I wanted to check that you knew that.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Me likey...

    by Bill C.

    ...admitted, I thought it was a bit more whimsical compared to what I was expecting (deliberately so, I imagine, since the second film now has that damn ominous subtitle 'The Desolation of Smaug'), but I really liked it. And the line starts behind me, judenw.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    THE HOBBIT!!

    by breixo

    this film is realy amazing now, I wouldn´t imagine in HD in a real Cinema.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST

    If Gollum looks "cartoonier", its bc of his big wide eyes

    by D.Vader

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Acceptable? Acceptable

    by johndalf greymane

    An adaptation with the feel of LotR is going to be difficult. The LotR story wasnt in Tolkein's head when he wrote the Hobbit and he did go back and tweak the manuscript and backstory to connect them. I always saw the dwarves as kind of bumbling and I hope PJ keeps the strong flavor of a country tale writ large. There are definately epic parts of the tale, but I dont want it to come across like the South Park episode where the kids get the ninja weapons and are all animated as buffed out samurai/ninja warriors. If anyone can do it, its PJ.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Too green-screeny... That's one of the dumbest things I've read

    by D.Vader

    It looks like so much of the way LOTR looks. And even if they used Bigatures in LOTR, they STILL composited them and had the actors stand in front of green screens!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Good idea, guys, let's criticize F/X on a trailer

    by IAmLegolas

    for a movie that's still a few months out. This looks awesome.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    best image from KOTCS:

    by zom-bot.com

    http://www.afterellen.com/sites/www.afterellen.com/files/images/indy-cate.jpg though I swear there used to be a larger HD version that wasn't cropped and showed more squat..lol

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST

    @zombot RE: Gollum

    by johndalf greymane

    Exactly what I was going to say. Gollum is younger, but more to the point since hes been under the mountain for more than 500 years, the ring has not abandoned him and he has not yet crossed half the world, suffering depredation and torture in search of his Precious.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Shatnerd says, and I quote, "MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    by shatnerd

    ......so good. My eyeballs are dancing like sugar plums in my head. My eyeballs will fill this film completely and utterly. At the first showing, my eyeballs will expand to fill the screening room, much to the dismay of my fellow theater-goers, as they realize (too late) that, yes, this is really happening. Their lives are being forever changed by the pointless tragedy of my eyeballs enveloping all forms of life which found themselves unequal to the task of fleeing my two rapidly expanding beautiful brown orbs before they were entrapped by those self-same implausibly swollen, ponderous globes of hawk-like acuity. Oooohh, yeaahhhh...."

  • And that is awesome.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Not completely digging this trailer

    by RedJester

    Because: I always pictured Gollum interaction with Bilbo as a much darker, scarier, morbidly funny, hidden in the shadows type of affair. and what is with that goblin landing on them at the end? That better not be the goblin king. If they're going to go with the every scene needs a laugh formula it appears they indeed are going for, this film is going to be the most disappointing film of the year.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Looks great but...

    by Darkness

    this won't win Jacko his second batch of oscars - not by a longshot; it stressed the Academy to hand out the golden statuettes to a fantasy flick last time round. Still wish he would have stuck to the text and made one big epic movie, but i'm sure wiser minds prevailed. Still can't believe it's been almost 10 years since the last trip to middle earth - The worlds in such a hurry.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure that is the Goblin King

    by D.Vader

    He's morbidly obese. And he has a crown. That's the one thing I didn't like about the trailer- the joke in the credits. But at least that shows the film has a sense of humor in line with the "fun" inherent in the story; something that most talkbackers have decried the upcoming films for ignoring.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Very nice

    by KelseysNuts

    And freakin' Hugo Weaving too!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    d.vader re: Beorn

    by ghost_matt

    Beorn will not be in the first movie. If you go to the official site (www.thehobbit.com) they've changed the scroll since changing it into three movies. The last scene on the scroll is now the dwarves getting rescued by the Eagles.

  • Its very difficult to tell...

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Could care less about the Hobbit

    by Snookeroo

    but the fantastic job that Jackson does translating the source material to the big screen once again makes me wish he was directing Man of Steel. At least then maybe Supes would have his red shorts.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST

    CGI hedgehogs? Its CGI gophers all over again!

    by D.Vader

    DAMN YOU GEORGE LUCAS!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Some complain because they like to read themselves

    by iluvsyfy

    Gollum looks the same to me, except I prefer a darker tone, hiding in the shadows (like in the book). I didn't notice it being to greenie, visuals looked great to me, the feel quite the same as LOTR. ............................................................ MY big complaint is too much humor and lighter tone, than the LOTR trailers, hopefully this doesn't carry over into the films. I believe it should match the seriousness of LOTR, but with a touch more humor, after all we have all these dwarfs together. .......................................................... I hope Galadriel has a bigger part than what is shown in trailer, because Kate rocks and I would love to see more of her.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST

    I can't get excited. I still wish somebody else directed

    by MJDeViant

    I wasn't a fan of the LOTR trilogy. Yeah, boo me and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. It's okay, I'm used to it. Anyways, I love the books and the cartoon of The Hobbit so I had mixed feelings about this. I mean, on the one hand, it has to employ some of what I loved about the cartoon/books. It has Martin Freeman. It has benedict Cumberbatch involved in TWO capacities. I'm not worried about the acting of anyone in these films. However... ... it is directed by the same guy who directed King Kong and the LOTR trilogy , of which I (I'm all too reminded many others disagree) see as a negative. I liked The Frighteners far more than any of his later movies. I'm already not looking forward to long dramatic pauses with background music every 5 minutes to imply importance or feeling. Or feeling the actual length of the journey because it feels like about 30% could have been edited out. I was looking forward to Del Toro much more. There are other directors I would have liked to see take a crack at it as well on a wishlist, like Gilliam (not likely) or let Pixar take a crack it it. Those are wishes, not likely or even probably possible, but still. Yeah, it is selfish as someone who didn't like the three LOTR movies to say "Make changes!" but I still think we all would have been better off, not just me. What's weird is I wouldn't mind Jackson doing a movie set of The Dark Rises sequence of books by Susan Cooper. That way he could make three films to cover all the books OR make shorter movies of each book because they aren't really long enough to warrant 3 hours a book. But, I'd also rather have the directors I previously mentioned before him...I just wouldn't mind him. I'd rather have Jackson do a new original project.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Gandalf using his rock splitting trick from the Balrog!

    by D.Vader

    Ah cool! So that's how they'll make it appear that Gandalf "made the sun rise" and turn the Trolls into stone! He'll use his same trick from the Bridge of Khazad-Dum and split the boulder he's standing on in half, thus spilling sunlight into the glen which otherwise would have taken a bit longer to show.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Some say Collider is a good one

    by Mikeyeieio

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    That's some cool synchronicity.

    by D.Vader

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Spot on redjester

    by one9deuce

    I don't think Peter Jackson has much imagination on how to shoot a scene creatively. His set-ups feel like they're for television. And anyone who mentions sweeping vistas and flyovers can STFU immediately, that is not creativity it's the opposite. But yeah, the scene with Gollum shouldn't be medium two shots and close-ups where they're both easily seen. Fucking dull. It reminds me of how incredibly pedestrian he shot the scene with Shelob in LOTR. It's just a fight with a big CGI spider in his movie. Almost as though it was more about showing what WETA could accomplish. The scene in the book has a nightmare/dream feel to it and I never felt like Samwise EVER got a truly good look at her.

  • ...and at the end of the day Randall was right; it really is just a bunch of dudes walking. Three films of a bunch of guys fuckin' walkin.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    That looks freaking fantastic.

    by Playkins

    Many of you continue to sound like jaded assholes.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Brief shot of the Eagles flying behind Gandalf on his tree

    by D.Vader

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST

    remcycle they didn't have cars in their world

    by jack

    and horses were too expensive. they were the Ferrari of their time.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Oh really, ghost matt?

    by D.Vader

    That's funny. I originally thought that's where they'd end the first movie, the rescue by the Eagles. But then I thought it made more sense to end on a cliffhanger with the fight with the spiders and then getting captured by the Elves. Interesting that they took Beorn off the scroll... Hmmm....

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST

    What about the barrels, Ghost Matt?

    by D.Vader

    Are those still on the scroll? Bc if they are, then maybe the movie still ends with them escaping to Lake Town (which personally I think should open the second movie).

  • New character moments to replace the Goblin King gag at the end of this trailer, moments with Gollum, Gandalf, Bilbo opening the contract, Elrond naming Sting, etc etc... It lets you "make your own ending to the trailer".

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    not really jaded...just seen and heard it all before "precious"

    by future help

    more...dull

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Episode 1 all over again...wow

    by Fico

    Can't believe they're going to fool everyone with this shit AGAIN

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Yep, that banner has erased a few images.

    by D.Vader

    SPOILERS Looks like the banner erased the images of Beorn and the Company floating down river in barrels. I guess all that will be in the second movie, along with the spider-attack. The banner now ends with the warg escape up the trees and eagle rescue.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Was that Radagast?

    by Nuck81

    On a sleigh driven by Rabbits? WTF?

  • Like the Star Wars trilogy, the first two LOTR movies (Fellowship/Two Towers) are masterpiece's while the third (Return of the King/Jedi) is sloppy. Now Jackson is making a prequel trilogy out of a very thin book that didn't need to be more than one movie. There is NO REASON that Jackson couldn't have done The Hobbit in 3 to 3 1/2 hours. He's simply doing this to milk it as much as he can after The Lovely Bones fucking tanked and King Kong dropped ape shit everywhere. FACT!!!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST

    OH AND I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE MY CABIN IN THE WOODS BLU-RAY!!!FACT!!!

    by CreepyThinMan

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Looks pretty awesome to me.

    by Andres

  • Then again, I guess it could have been worse.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Looks good

    by ThaWhiteShadow

    Although I wasn't a fan of the shot of Radagast driving a sleigh pulled by giant bunnies.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST

    another boring cgfest. surprise.

    by JAMF

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Gollum shouldn't be comic relief!

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST

    I think it's the same character responding to himself.

    by idonotseekabanning

    I guess that's just the way Jackson dwarves talk. You don't toss 'em.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Sylvester McCoy!

    by Mark Williams

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST

    @ultratron - I'd like to see my wife handle Moorcock too...BA-DUMP-DUMP!

    by obijuanmartinez

    But seriously folks, bonzer trailer. Looking forward to these!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    I've just re-read Riddles in the Dark chapter

    by Kain_Bloodstone

    The sense if fear in that chapter is astonishing. Gollum is FUCKING SCARY. Not some big blue eyed toon designed to sell toys for Christmas time. Seriously, FUCK THIS SHIT. FUCK IT.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST

    From the Contract ending, it sounds like Smaug is pronounced...

    by D.Vader

    Smooowg.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    I wants to see this now. Yessssus

    by angry kitty

    Looks fantastic. And holy crap gollum looked positively adorable. Which is weird.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    here's the revised scroll for anyone else who hasn't seen it

    by ghost_matt

    http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/thehobbit/app/thcc_thescroll.jpg I too thought them getting captured by the elves or escaping in the barrels would have been the perfect ending to the first movie. My concern with where it ends now is that it's not far enough into the story. You pretty much have the trolls, Rivendell, the Misty Mountains/Gollum, and the warg attack. But from this new trailer maybe they've got a lot of stuff with Dol Goldur and the Misty Mountains have been expanded a lot more. It think it will be awesome. And, d.vader, I read on theonering.net that the actor playing Beorn is one of the people who got asked to come back for more filming, so we're probably getting a lot more Beorn now than we would have.

  • Still looking forward to this.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Movies for kids

    by doccywoo

    Del Toro would have been a much better fit for this than Jackson. Looks like a very silly movie for kids, and not a tale of desperate and rather obsessive behaviour.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Moorcock should be only every be handled by del Toro

    by -Halfscan-

    ... and I say that as a non-fan of a majority of Guillermo's work, but seriously, NO ONE else comes close to getting the vibe as he does.

  • I'm pretty sure Tolkien wrote that, they're expert hiders and have been hiding from us today.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Tonal irregularity

    by doccywoo

    The tone of this seems way off, too light and jocular, and bilbo did not run off from bag-end delighted at the thought of having an adventure. Freeman is a very bad choice for Bilbo, too young and comedic.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Am I the only one who got an oldschool Terry Gilliam vibe?

    by Randy

    Something about this feels like Time Bandits to me, like it's mix of humor with creative fantasy visuals. Maybe it's better if Jackson takes a different approach here, like having more fun instead of being so serious all the time.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Well which is it doccywoo?

    by D.Vader

    Do you want something light-hearted like the children's book that is The Hobbit? Or do you want something more serious and in line with the previous movies? Or do you think a combination of both is the best idea? Because I tell you, NO ONE here can agree what is the best approach. Half the people in here act pissed off that this is "epic" and not the small, light-hearted kids story. And now we've got people complaining about the light-hearted tone and some of the jokes. Sheesh.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:05 p.m. CST

    AICN....the homeworld of Hackson apologists

    by shane peterson

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Well that could have been worse

    by Dreamfasting

    ( someone had to quote it :) ) The extra ten years of experience and technology for moulding New Zealand into Middle Earth really shows ... it looks dazzling and the characters look as iconic as they should. It's a given that they'll get my dollars, so I'm just enjoying the ride leading up to it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Epic.

    by Gabba-UK

    nuf said.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST

    That was AWFUL

    by brobdingnag

    The first trailer was quite good but this is VERY disheartening. Its the Star Wars prequels all over again. Ridiculous dialog, wrong tone. This will destroy Jackson's rep just like the SW prequels did to Lucas.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Hmmmmm

    by doccywoo

    Not sure I was clear. I meant that it looks like a kids film, silly and light hearted whilst the book, while written for children, is not really like that. It's not war and peace, but it is serious in a way that really doesn't come through in this admittedly short trailer. I think Jackson just doesn't really understand the source material. I would say the same about his adaptation of LOTR. Some things he just didn't get, and they look a bit dated. I would like an epic film, but not an epic kids film.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST

    AICN ...the homeworld of jaded cynical assholes

    by Etienne72772

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    For someone who has never read The Hobbit...

    by tailhook

    the trailer does an absolutely horrible job at conferring what the movie is actually about, besides dudes going on an adventure... to somewhere.. because there is some darkness in the world. Um.. ok. As opposed to LoTR: Gotta journey to a volcano to destroy a ring to kill the big bad. Pretty easy premise to wrap your head around. Hobbit.. not so much.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    And another thing......

    by doccywoo

    The look of the dwarves is rather wrong. They are vagabonds, or else they made their living working iron for money. They have been disposessed of all they held dear, but here thay all look rather clean and polished, just wrong. I wish this had been made in a time when even a book for kids could be taken seriously. Books for kids from the time the hobbit was written were very different from the tripe that is manufactured for kids these days. The silliness of the book isn't something that will really come across very well in film, because silly scenarios are very hard to do without looking simply stupid. I was really chuffed when I heard del Toro was going to direct this, but really lost a lot of interest when he dropped out.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Looks incredible

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Haven't been this jazzed about a blockbuster movie since Avatar.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Thorin really does look like a Dwarf in that scene with Elrond

    by performingmonkey

    I agree this looks a little too much 'made-for-TV' from Jackson. The trailer's poorly paced, and you've got to wonder whether the split to 3 movies has messed up the flow of the first. At least 45 minutes has been cut and moved to the 2nd film. The Fellowship of the Ring trailer is a thousand times better! On the positives, Martin Freeman seems PERFECT as Bilbo, and Goblin Town looks exactly as it should. People have been visualizing Goblin Town for years and now it's here, for real!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Kain Bloodstone "Aimed at 8-14 year olds"

    by Johnathan newport

    Hey, dumb ass, who do you think TOLKIEN was aiming for? You know he wrote The Hobbit for his son, right? Right?

  • Based on some images, I think Bifur, the one with the axe-blade embedded in his head, is going to have a few, ah, "moments" and that maybe he'll be a bit slow to the uptake, if you get me, as a result of his injury. Played up for laughs, I'm sure. I base this on two moments: 1. At :37 seconds, we see a group of Dwarves at the dinner table listening to Thorin. All stare at the same point offscreen, blinking or gulping or straining to listen- all *moving*. Bifur, on the left side of the screen, however, seems to be staring down at his plate. His eyeline doesn't match the others, and not only that, he seems to be frozen. He's completely still, statuesque, as if the injury to his brain gives him these stuck in the moment, ah, moments. 2. At 2:00, Bofur and Kili seem to be laughing hysterically at a joke while Bofur sits on the right side of frame looking at them both, not comprehending what they're laughing at, as he sits frozen with a handful of vegetables above a fire. He doesn't appear frozen in this moment as his eyes look around, but he definitely appears to not get the joke. 3. At 2:02, the Dwarves are all seen laughing around the table with Gandalf. All the dwarves, that is, except for Bofur, who appears to be moving and swaying like a Chuck E Cheese robot. Not smiling either, I might add.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST

    And to the idiots comparing this to Episode 1

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    There's a big difference: this movie is based off of first-rate source material, while Menace was entirely predicated on a story that Lucas had to make up himself (which was beyond his skill level). Unless Jackson SEVERELY fucks up, or his filmmaking skills have entirely deserted him in he last three years, this is still going to be a good film. If he's at his Fellowship of the Ring best, it will be a GREAT film.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Oops, I meant Bifur in some of those points

    by D.Vader

    Its Bifur on the right side in number 2, not Bofur. Its Bifur, not Bofur, in number 3.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    The SW prequels all over again- give me a fucking break

    by D.Vader

    What a useless and lazy insult.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Tailhook, I guess you missed the beginning of the trailer

    by D.Vader

    The beginning where Gandalf proclaims "THE DWARVES ARE DETERMINED TO RECLAIM THEIR HOMELAND!" Or the moment when Gandalf says he's found the 14th member that Thorin wanted for the journey? And the part when Gandalf explains Hobbits can get into places without being seen? Or the moment when Thorin, at the table, declares "We must seize this chance to TAKE BACK EREBOR!" I guess all those moments eluded you so you didn't get anything other than a sense that they're going on an "adventure... somewhere..."

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST

    "Made for tv" or a "tv mini-series" Another lazy insult

    by D.Vader

    Can anyone really back up or qualify those claims? Nothing in this looks like anything I'd see on tv.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Agree with Tailhook

    by Johnathan newport

    Trailers do NOTHING to excite any but the choir. So far I don't see anythign that doesn't look like excised footage from LOTR, and I'm not buyin some of the dwarf designs, though that's just me. That said, am glad it's The Hobbit: a more "jovial" tone, Will give kids a chance to enjoy a really well-shot, fun movie experience. And yes, Im sure I'll take my daughters to see it, and will probably enjoy it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1 p.m. CST

    I'm not really feeling it

    by disfigurehead

    but i will see it anyway.

  • So before they watch it they already have a cynical jaded point of view and are looking to hate on it. That's fine. It doesn't bother me. It's what I think that matters the most because I like everyone else lives inside my brain.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    @xenopants

    by Kain_Bloodstone

    You do understand that some of the best "children's" movies can also appeal well to adults, right? Raiders, ESB even Jackson's FotR to name a few. This looks catered exclusively for kiddies because that's (apparently) where the most moolah is. And if you've read The Hobbit you'll know it's not a typical children's book. chapters like riddles in the dark - scary shit. This looks like the polar opposite of scary.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Yeeeaaah not gonna see it. Not gonna see it.

    by Ricardo

    Noooot... gonna see it. Nope. Not gonna.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Kain Bloodstone

    by D.Vader

    Not buying that argument. Nothing here looks exclusively "kiddie" to me.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Most torrented movie of 2013. You heard it here first.

    by SUPERJIM

    People will; Go see it in the cinema, probably once because of the high prices and generally shit experience. Torrent a shitty CAM version a couple of weeks later. Torrent a R5 or screener a little later. Torrent a DVD/Blu rip months later. Buy the extended edition on Blu Ray late 2013, IF they aren't sick of seeing it by then. Of course they could get around steps 2-4 by just releasing the extended edition on Blu as soon as it is done in the theatre, ensuring they make more money from step 5. The market has changed and business models need to change too. People hate waiting months and months for a release, and they can't afford to double dip either. Also, cinema chains, make more money from step 1 by kicking out the little bastards, the twats on phones and reduce your prices. Thank you!

  • News at 11.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    I recall the first few FOTR trailers being underwhelming, too

    by Logan_1973

    Not that I think this is, of course. But if some of you wankers aren't feeling it, what Jackson has done with JRRs material thus far should earn plenty of faith.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    woah that's a lotta of cg

    by CT1

    gettin a little George Lucasy there yikes

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    To those who think this film looks like garbage...

    by Sam_Jay_Jick_Donutly_Dildoclip

    ...GO FUCK YOURSELVES WITH AN ORC COCK!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST

    The Yaoi fangirls on Tumblr are going to have a field day...

    by Tacom

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Too GreenScreeny? Fuck off

    by Humie Bubbie

    I'm going to bet the lot of you saying that haven't a clue what goes into a visual effects shot. If you've seen any snippet of the behind the scenes stuff, a lot of the foreground elements are practical sets. There are a lot of flying camera rigs, and that might be what you've decided is "green screeny", but I reckon Jackson is filming this way to take advantage of the 3D aspect. If any of it looks the way Spielberg's chase scenes in Tintin did because of the moving camera, then I will gladly take that over the "realism" of boring boring LOTR.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    @superjim

    by Handiana Jolo

    So, you expect large corporations that run these theaters to not only eliminate a large portion of their paying audience, especially during matinee times, but also reduce prices and reduce any incentive for people to go back and see a movie in the theater a second time, and expect them to be *more* profitable? Whatever online fuckwit business school you got your degree from, man, I hope you ask for your money back.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I think it looks amazing

    by SUPERJIM

    I can't wait to see it. I was surprised at the negative comments here, but then I remembered it was AICN and everything was ok with the world again.

  • Looks like typical Jackson: weak script, overly-long CGI setpieces, badly-shot close combat, bunch of extraneous crap invented by his script girls that's out of place in the actual story.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST

    relax

    by Handiana Jolo

    Whomever said that some people want the big sweeping epic, and some people think that this should be a kiddie film, was right on. Now we got both camps bitching and it's annoying to hear. Also, when will you retards learn? When complex CGI is shown this early in the preview process, IT"S USUALLY NOT DONE. How many movies have we been through that same exact point before on? Goddamn some of the lives you lead must be painfully depressing.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST

    this.looks.bad.

    by Waka_Flocka

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    this movie had me at the first trailer

    by angry kitty

    with the haunting melody of the Dwarves' Misty Mountain song. That's enough for me to have confidence in Jackson's ability to balance humor and pathos. Everything else is just icing on the cake. I'll be first in line to see this one.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    d.vader

    by Kain_Bloodstone

    "Nothing looks kiddie to me". Not even a sleigh being pulled by giant bunny rabbits? C'mon man, I really like reading your posts but let's call it as we see it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST

    As long as we don't get Freeman Baggins...

    by Tyrion's Tyrannical Todger

    ...I'm down. Phantom Menace comparisons? Please. What did you want? Dark, end of the world stuff? Been there, done that, enjoyed the shit out of it. I'm well up for a lighter take on the material, and it isn't all going to be gags. Only worry is that we get Martin Freeman, and not Bilbo. There were some nice Bilbo-isms in there, but my homeland is famous for producing actors that play themselves. I refer the jury to exhibits Sean Connery, Michael Caine and Danny Dyer. Don't look Danny in the eye tho'. He's well 'ard.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2 p.m. CST

    @so-crates

    by SUPERJIM

    No, I expect them to improve the cinema experience by policing the place to stop groups of 12 year olds talking all the way through and to stop people talking on their phone. I once watched a movie where someone behind me talked on the phone practically from start to finish. I've been to LOADS of movies where a group of kids is there to just throw popcorn at each other and spoil it for the rest of the people in there. I hardly ever go to the cinema now and I used to love it. Whenever I do go its mostly empty apart from the groups of people I was just talking about. I would to A LOT more often if they sorted it out and I am sure many more people would too. And the price is ridiculous, surely you agree with that? I'm don't know where you live but here in the UK it's an expensive couple of hours going to watch a movie. I wanted to watch Avengers a 2nd time but couldn't justify the price for me and my son to go back. I bet they get far fewer repeat viewings now the prices are so high. There's a recession on, nobody has any money. Releasing the Blu Ray shortly after its done in theatres won't discourage repeat viewings, if that's what you meant. Waiting months and months DOES encourage piracy though.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Liked the first trailer more.

    by MoistMuskyCamelToe

    Agree w/ angry kitty, first trailer had a more ominous tone which I liked. I have no doubt these will be great though- nothing wrong with levity added in. It was done well in LoTR through moments like Gandalf hitting his head in Bilbo's house. I do hope Smaug is utterly terrifying. I was very excited for Shelob and felt that entire scene was just terrible. The dragon better be fucking terrifying.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Kain

    by D.Vader

    Well I said "exclusively kiddie" which was using your own words from a previous post. This movie doesn't look like its made just for kids, which is what that implies. Radagast is a character who was more concerned and interested in birds and animals rather than people and the ways and politics of the world. Peter Jackson has chosen to play that up to differentiate Radagast from the other wizards like Saruman who was more interested in knowledge and power and Gandalf who was more interested in people and living and interacting with them. Giving Radagast an entourage of animals makes sense to me, so the idea of him traveling by animal (large bunnies in a fantasy world already populated by large wolves and large elephants) doesn't seem that far-fetched. Sure, kids may like it, but that's not to suggest adults will hate it or have an aversion to it. And please note I'm not calling names or anything, I just disagree with that idea that this seems to have been made only for kids.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST

    And Kain

    by D.Vader

    I appreciate yours posts too. Its good when people can debate over these things without getting too worked up!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Kain, "Kids, scary shit"

    by Johnathan newport

    Yeah, I get that, and appreciate your point. My point was that the comparison to Lucas' Prequels is unjust, as those are poorly WRITTEN, poorly DIRECTED uninspired pieces of commercilIZED crap parading in the guise of "targeted for kids". I don't see that in The Hobbit; that said there's nothing wrong with a film being "lighthearted," after works like Harry Potter (fantastic) etc, kids could use some more lightheartedness, god knows they're growing up faster ie more cynical than generations before them. If The Hobbit provides a sense of wonder for a new generation, fantastic. Hopefully it'll get more kids to READ the Hobiit, becuase as much as I enjoyed Rowlings Potter, Tolkien, even The Hobbit, is far more challlenging.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST

    looks like more of the same....and thats fine with me!

    by FleshMachine

    yep

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Hobbit I: Rising Into Darkness

    by animatronicmojo

    Yo! I don't rap about bitches and hoes, I rap about <BR>witches and trolls <BR>Just passing on the words of the Elven king, <BR>Wisdom to all <BR>Bilbo! Don't wear the ring! <BR>Bilbo, don't wear the ring! <BR>The magical bling bling <BR>You'll never be the Lord of the Rings!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Man this looks perfectly awesome!

    by Paul

    finished reading The Hobbit to my sons and know I'm reading Fellowship of the Ring and this looks perfect!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST

    what the fuck

    by dagwood

    is with that banner for

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST

    lets try that again...

    by dagwood

    What the fuck is with that banner for Breaking bad that sits on the bottom of the frame for the last minute of the trailer???

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    @superjim

    by Handiana Jolo

    Why wouldn't it discourage repeat viewings in the theater? If there's a market for viewing the movie without paying the exorbitant movie theater prices very shortly after it releases to theaters (which is the implication that the tendency towards piracy makes), then why wouldn't it be shrunk by an official release of the movie on blu-ray immediately thereafter? The demand might not be as significant as I think, but it's almost certainly more Anyways, the implication in your first post was that they banned from the theaters. As annoying as I find those people as well, and the lack of policing around it, the fact of the matter remains that geeks like us who love the theater experience for what it is and love movies for what they are, are in the minority of moviegoers. Most of them don't give two shits about the experience, I agree, but kicking them all out of theaters is taking a huge amount of the market away, and no amount of repeat viewings by us would make that difference up early. The sad fact of the matter is movie going has proven to be more price inelastic than we would like to think. Until we vote with our wallets, and not our mouths, movie theaters right now have very little reason to change. They make very good margins on pretty much everything they sell, and more than market share or anything else, that's what the execs are looking at, and that's what'll determine distribution strategies in the future. Look, I'd have liked a blu ray to see the Avengers right after the 2nd time in the theater. But I didn't get it, so I turned to crappy rips for a while, and I didn't go back to the theater as a result. I can sure as shit guarantee you there's no way in hell I would've gone back if I could've bought a legit copy two weeks (or months) after the initial release. Shit, if they did that with movies, there are many which I wouldn't go to at all, and just wait for the sooner blu ray. The reviewing cost there would be zilch, while the re-viewing cost at a theater would still be the insane amount that it is now. I apologize for the harsh tone of my earlier post; I was getting fed up with the other responses I was seeing on this talkback which had nothing to do with you. Clearly on your reply you displayed a level-headedness and sense of rationality that most talkbackers find anathema to their existence, and for that, my fault.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Looks pretty darn good.

    by AzulTool

  • has clearly never read The Hobbit. Let's not forget that The Hobbit is a childrens book.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST

    youre all too easily pleased.

    by allouttabubblegum

    That looked like shit.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    d vader

    by Kain_Bloodstone

    No worries. Nice to have a civilized conversation here once in a while ;)

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    @d.vader

    by tailhook

    The beginning where Gandalf proclaims "THE DWARVES ARE DETERMINED TO RECLAIM THEIR HOMELAND!" Or the moment when Gandalf says he's found the 14th member that Thorin wanted for the journey? And the part when Gandalf explains Hobbits can get into places without being seen? Or the moment when Thorin, at the table, declares "We must seize this chance to TAKE BACK EREBOR!" I guess all those moments eluded you so you didn't get anything other than a sense that they're going on an "adventure... somewhere..." -------- Its not that they eluded me.. its that I don't really have a context within which to place them. The trailer is slanted to some nutjob with a dog-eared copy of the book in his backpocket. Erebor? Really? A non-fan is expected to know that? 14 members just makes me think 13 is a real unlucky number. So if the purpose of the movie is that an evil has setup shop in the dwarf caves and our plucky heroes are off to dispose of it(but didn't they do that in the first film?), um.. say that in a way that someone who isn't familiar with the universe would understand it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Looks great - can't wait

    by Matt Schlotman

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST

    RADAGAST!

    by Baralatar

    Love the look of Radagast, and, yeah, the sleigh pulled by rabbits is wonderfully goofy. Brilliant!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    So-crates

    by SUPERJIM

    You're right. I already miss most of the movies I want to see in the cinema because of the shitty experience of it all and I'd probably give the few things I do see a miss if I could pick up the Blu Ray 6 weeks after later. It'd hurt the cinema industry. But it would surely help DVD/Blu Ray sales. In that gap between a movie leaving the cinema and the DVD release the only way to see it is illegal downloading and by the time you can buy it most people have already seen a pirate copy. I wonder how many people would buy it instead of downloading if it was available legally. I do think there is a huge amount of custom being lost through lack of policing, probably more than they are gaining by leaving the idiots to do whatever they want. Where I live the local screens are almost full on the opening weekend of a big movie. If you go any time after that weekend they are almost empty and most people in there are the idiots who spoil the experience. That looks to me like the die hard fans are going opening weekend and the general movie going public are giving it a miss altogether. I think this has to be either the price, the fact they know some dick will spoil the movie or a combination of both.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Well you're on the right track, Tailhook

    by D.Vader

    "14 members just makes me think 13 is a real unlucky number. " Which I believe is precisely the reason Thorin wanted Gandalf to find a 14th person, bc 13 was unlucky. So nice work! "So if the purpose of the movie is that an evil has setup shop in the dwarf caves and our plucky heroes are off to dispose of it" Yeah you got that too, good! So you may not know what Erebor is, but I doubt you( or others unfamiliar with LOTR) knew what Middle-Earth was in the first trailers for FOTR. Or what Sauron was, or Mordor for that matter. They didn't come right out and say that they're reclaiming their land from a dragon. But they did show you a map when speaking of their specific place and show a dragon above it. They did imply it was dangerous. They did say the dwarves needed to reclaim their homeland, and that's about the story in a nutshell. Dwarves want to reclaim land and need Bilbo to help. All together they go on an adventure. I don't think they needed to get into details specifically in just this first real trailer, but if they did, I don't think it would have hurt. But it seems like you have figured out the basic premise regardless.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Starring Jamie Kennedy as Bilbo Baggins!

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    Can't wait! Yessah!

  • That way there is more room for me in the theater and I don't have to be surrounded by a bunch of whining fuck-wits that complain about a movie when you know damned well they will be there on opening day. Hypocritical ballsacks, the lot of you.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Fact: GoT looks better than this shit.

    by Drew

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    LOWLY DOGS!!!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I can't believe the amount of negativity and cynicism that I'm seeing here. Fucking internet nerds! I hate you all! May your souls be consumed in the HELL OF THE OILY DRAGON!!!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Hobbit was a book for kids

    by terry1978

    The movie should have more humor than LOTR. Tolkien put it in there. That whole exchange between Gollum and Bilbo looks exactly how it was probably played out in in his mind.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4 p.m. CST

    YES! this looks great!

    by The_guy_in_the_rated_R_movie

    I know some are bitchin' about this being turned into 3 films, but count me in.

  • .......I mean, its rife everywhere on this site? And what is more amazing is that no doubt some of you deal the same shit on other talkbacks!! Its not good at all, but what do you really expect? Anyway. Trailer looks alright, and this time I don't have to trek halfway across bloody England to make it to a cinema (there's a Vue, in my town now!! Ten minutes from me!!).

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    And why all the comparisons between this and Game of Thrones?

    by david starling

    They may have fantasy origins, but they are far removed from one another.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Oh, and just as long as Thorin doesn't sing about gold!!

    by david starling

    Thorin sings about gold

  • GOT is a lavishly intricate ADULT drama, that has an appropriately limited dose of sfx. It is a drama that plays with the hint of fantasy. Sure you’ve got dragons, direwolves and shadow beasts, but you’ve also got sex, backstabbing (literally) and intrigue. The characters could easily be dropped into any time, place and there stories would be just as gripping. The Hobbit on the other hand, is a richly layered FANTASY, with clear distinction of good vs. evil. The characters and their stories live and breathe in Middle Earth, and wouldn’t exist as readily in any other setting. Middle Earth itself is a character, and the fantasy elements are crucial to the story. It’s not a fair comparison.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    grammar is optional for me today-

    by angry kitty

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    there' should be 'their

    by angry kitty

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Wow, look at all the webtards.

    by DocPazuzu

    I knew there would be an asshat or two in here stirring shit up, but the sheer amount of fuckery is startling, even for AICN. I know what your deal is, though. It's the same with all the dumbest talkbackers. You want to be the first to have called it if a movie sucks. You'll scream and yell about ephemeral, miniscule shit with the hope that if the movie sucks, you'll be able to cash in your talkback cred and be a minor online celebrity (at AICN) for a day. And if the movie is awesome? Why, you'll just fuck off and come back under a new nickname in order to set your sights on the next high profile target. Sooner or later you'll be right, and then -- look out world! Seriously, just step back and look at your aspirations for a moment. See anything wrong? This trailer looks fantastic, for what it's worth. Does this mean the movie will conquer all? No. Not at all. However, why prepare for its failure when it's so much more fun to actually have something to look forward to, which this trailer actually seems to promise? Then again, look who I'm talking to here -- the worst of the forum bottom feeders.

  • Still though, I think this looks good. It captures the feel of the LOTR films and doesn't feel too advanced like the SW prequels did compared to the OT, or how Prometheus felt a little too clean and high tech compared to Alien. Anyways, it isn't that it feels too green screeny to me, but that the colors and grading of the image seems to be a bit more exaggerated and storybook in their look. That might work just fine for The Hobbit though. From this trailer it also feels like they filmed more on sets than in as many real locations like LOTR. So I guess there would be some green screens for digitally composited set extensions and all that stuff. Gollum looked fine to me. He might seem a bit dated to some because let's face it, we were introduced to him a decade ago. Even if he is done with more detail and realism for these films, the fact remains that we first saw him as state of the art a decade ago. That is bound to make us feel a bit less blown away by his appearance now.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Velvet_Sloane - Wounded?!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Don't get saucy with me, Bearnaise!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Hobbit does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Wow, that trailer was great to see... Lots of cool images and promises of epic action. If I'm being totally honest I would say that I preferred the first trailer. The many comments about this looking a bit green screen.. There is some truth in that. From the trailer the visuals don't look to have quite such a motion picture patina as LOTR - just a wee bit shinier and more artificial looking to my eyes. But that may not translate to the finished film after final grading, etc is complete. I am also rather worried that the goblin seen in close shot sword fighting bilbo is all cg. The orcs and uruks in close shot in LOTR were beautiful practical make up jobs and that added a lot of grounding to the film. Just hope the hobbit doesn't feel too toon like. Still 95percent positive and 5percent worried is a good equation for a trailer to achieve!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold.

    by VoiceOfSaruman

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Yes, Thorin does sing about gold!!

    by david starling

    Sorry - I have the Spectrum game in my head, great game (seriously, even now, its that good!!), but every time you pause and think, there Thorin goes.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:06 p.m. CST

    velvet_sloane

    by VoiceOfSaruman

    Yep, had it for PCJr. Pretty legendary. Came with the paperback, which I already had.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST

    RE: docpazuzu

    by doccywoo

    I think you don't understand what some people think about this film. I don't think anyone criticising this film is hoping, or thinking, it will fail. I think that people who have read the book and understood it and its context were expecting something slightly more sophisticated from someone who is supposed to "get" the literature upon which the film is based. Tolkien dealt with great themes and ideas in his works, even if they aren't apparent to most of the people who read them or watch the adaptations. Tolkien was a man of immense learning and scholarly discipline, and it was this that enabled him to write a story for his kids. if someone is going to make a film based upon his writings then it would only be fitting that this be understood. I have loved this book since I was seven years old(nearly thirty years ago) and it is painful to look at and watch an adaptation that falls so far short of what could be. Even though it is a book meant for kids it is still a serious work of literature, and unfortunately, this is what peter jackson, in my opinion, has missed, and indeed missed when adapting LOTR for the big screen.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:16 p.m. CST

    doccywoo well said

    by jack

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    UNLOCK DOOR WITH CURIOUS KEY

    by VoiceOfSaruman

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST

    The Snow White and the Huntsman dwarves looked much more convincing

    by David Duchovny

    As a huge fan of LOTR, I must say that this looks fucking goofy, and Bilbo was horribly miscast.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST

    SAY TO ELROND "HELLO"

    by VoiceOfSaruman

    SMASH TRAP DOOR I'm done, thanks.

  • How is that possible? It's been 10 years. Buy a new computer.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Fucking iTunes Apple bullshit

    by Mr Lucas

    I detest Apple and their environmental-unsound , cult of control-freak fascism. Can we have this somewhere else? Even YouTube (slightly less fascistic). I click on 1080p download...fuck all happens. Apple cunts can fuck themselves sideways with a shitty stick.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST

    The Orges look like the Cave Trolls?

    by _SnakePlissken_

    been a while since i read the hobbit.. but weren't the 3 big dudes that try and cook bilbo Ogres who can actually speak?? It looks like Jackson has just used the cave trolls who don't talk for the 3 Ogres that turn into stone when the sun comes up

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Hobbit looks awesome. Would love a hard R Elric series

    by curseofyig

    I want me some Moorcock!

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Oh you

    by GreenGeezer

    dirty dirty dirty man....I don't know if he could handle Morcock.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Cant wait

    by SQUIDDLY

    After a few meh films and the awesome Dredd I can not wait for this but not looking forward to the year wait inbetween again.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:52 p.m. CST

    The first trailer was better..

    by darthwaz1

    this one is still pretty awesome however..

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST

    _snakeplissken_

    by Nice Marmot

    No, they were definitely trolls.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Really disappointing that Freeman is being Freeman

    by moonlightdrive

    as he mostly falls foul of. That was my biggest fear with him being cast (not a fan anyway but that goes along with not being a fan of samey actors, especially samey in the way that they are the same off camera). I thought because of the weight of this work and the already huge fan base he might have put more effort into a performance that wasn't like himself but doesn't appear that way from his scenes in the trailer.

  • My biggest pet peeve in the abundance of CGI effects these days is spotting them easily. When they stick out in just short clips during a trailer it doesn't bode well for a whole movie. Personally, it just takes me out of a movie. One of the things I loved about LOTR and that made it more real and believable for me was that they used so much tangible stuff like sets and costumes/make-up etc. (like the Urak-Hai who looked awesome), they used CGI as well but it going by the two trailers so far and the behind the scenes production videos (yes granted that isn't a whole movie) it looks like they have gone the opposite direction this time and that could be to their detriment but it will remain the be seen. Maybe they did this for time or budget constraints or maybe it was simply laziness but I'm not sold on some of the cartoonish shots in the trailer; very disappointed and with the advancement in effects since the LOTR movies I don't why they can't look any better than Legolas being picked up onto an animal during battle and sliding/surfing around on it.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Bilbo fighting the Goblin..

    by darthwaz1

    It looks like the goblins are cgi this time, maybe the differentiate them from the other ones in LOTR. That one he's fighting doesn't seem to have correct human proportion, shorter legs/longer arms and shorter in stature than a human/than the orcs were in LOTR.. maybe that's why they went the cgi rout..?

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Yeah snakeplissken, they were Hill Trolls

    by D.Vader

    Which are presumably smarter than Cave trolls.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Liked It

    by Jeff

    The moment when Thorin pumps his fist and snarls, "We will seize this chance to TAKE BACK EREBOR!" got me feeling it. Damn, I actually really dug that. The actor playing Thorin seems to have grabbed the core of this classic warrior-leader by the throat. Excellent job by him! As for Bilbo Baggins, I don't have the misgivings others have described about Martin Freeman. I think he delivers an entertaining, straight-forward, fish-out-of-water take on Bilbo. And that's just from the trailer. Overall, I'm very happy with what we're seeing.

  • Sept. 19, 2012, 9:54 p.m. CST

    moonlightdrive, do you have examples?

    by D.Vader

    Examples of what looks like an "abundance of CGI effects" that are different from what we saw in LOTR?

  • But there are parts that I like. Hope they outnumber those that I don't.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Why don't people wait

    by Charinger

    To make a review until they see the whole fucking movie. *whiny voice* "It looks tooo cartoony" , well waaah. Tough shit, you didn't make the movie. To claim that it takes you out of the movie, again wait till it's done so you can view it as a cohesive whole. All of you so called "Tolkien Scholars" who are complaining, why don't you scan a picture of your "Official Expert on everything Tolkien" certificate so your points are validated. Jeez people, so judgmental on something that they haven't even seen. This movie looks bloody awesome by the way!

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Dear Peter Jackson and Crew

    by Tim Hendon

    Hope you have a plan on what to do with all of this money. You deserve it.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Hey...guys...guys...

    by Lakewater

    ..who would win in a battle between Smaug and the Balrog? heh heh hurrrrrrr. *adolescent torture*

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Dwarves' make up looks silly

    by hulkiest

    Might as well have them wearing plastic Halloween masks. Looks as fake and computery as the previous three epic snooze fests.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:30 a.m. CST

    I adored Lord of the Rings

    by umbral_shadow_

    The first two are amongst my favorite movies of all time. But this trailer...i'm baffled. Truly baffled. The CG looks more artificial than it did ten years ago. Why? There was an almost seamless integration between CG and models and real practical sets. Now it just looks shiny and well lit and so obviously made on computers. The dwarf prosthetics just look...off. The wigs look too clean and artificial. I mean Thorin's hair is shampooed and blow dried. What gives? When Gollum says to Bilbo he'll eat him, why does it come off funny? Why is Martin Freeman so wooden and unbelievable? Does he always act like this? And before people start shouting "troll" let me say I was really looking forward to this. I'm devastated this looks so half-assed and played for cheap laughs.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST

    doccywoo

    by DocPazuzu

    Wrong. People have been bitching from day one when they found out PJ was doing The Hobbit. They whined about his sensibilities being wrong and that LOTR was too dark and that the Hobbit is much more of a lighthearted, child-friendly, twee affair and not at all suited to PJ's aesthetics. Well, by the looks of the material so far, PJ has captured the EXACT right tone for this. And guess what? Now people like you are bitching that PJ has overlooked the deep, profound, embedded themes of this Great Classic Of Literature. You can't have it both ways -- even if you are a talkbacker.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Just saw the second trailer...

    by RedJester

    This looks, dare I say it, absolutely terrible! Between Freeman's acting or lack thereof and Gollum's lack of resemblance to Gollum in the novel, this is looking like the biggest disappointment since Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 4:07 a.m. CST

    redjester

    by DocPazuzu

    *Gollum's lack of resemblance to Gollum in the novel* Are you being serious? From wikipedia: In the first edition of The Hobbit Tolkien made no reference to Gollum's size, leading several illustrators to portray him as being very large. Tolkien realized the omission, and clarified in later editions that he was of average Hobbit size. The Lord of the Rings characterizes him as slightly larger than Sam. Tolkien describes Gollum as either dark, bone-white or sallow (pale yellow); at one point the Men of Ithilien mistake his silhouette (seen from a distance) for a tailless black squirrel. In a manuscript written to guide illustrators to the appearance of his characters, Tolkien explained this by saying that Gollum had pale skin, but wore dark clothes and was often seen in poor light. The Hobbit states he has pockets, in which he keeps a tooth-sharpening-rock, goblin teeth, wet shells, and a scrap of bat wing. The Hobbit describes him as thin, with only six teeth sharpened into points. Comparing him to Shelob, one of the Orcs describes him as "rather like a spider himself, or perhaps like a starved frog." Gollum is described as "a small slimy creature" (in The Hobbit), and emaciated and gaunt, but possessing a vicious, wiry strength.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 4:36 a.m. CST

    Looks half-great, half-terrible

    by kwisatzhaderach

    kind of like the LOTR films. Sylvester McCoy as Radagast looks amazing though.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Jfc morons... Gollum is

    by cory

    Younger and hasnt spent decades searching for precious and being tortured in mordor. As for the tone, the hobbit is a childrens book, so it is appropriate. Del Toro's would have been much more cartoonish. Dont fuckin doubt jackson, his worst sperm know more about middle earth than anyone else alive.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Dear Haters, Fuck You and Fuck Off. Sincerely, Bilboring

    by BilboRing

    The trailer looks amazing. Everything looks amazing. Nothing looks bad in any way. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Fuck off already. Fuck you and your mother.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9 a.m. CST

    @bilboring

    by TheMachinist

    You realize we'll complain over the smallest, most infinitesimal detail, right?

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST

    even if it's bad it will still be awesome

    by IndianaPeach

    martin freeman should be fatter, however. and i hope they built at least one practical spider with some real, non-cg fangs and goo. Del Toro would have.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    drew7526, do you have any examples?

    by D.Vader

    Any specific examples that look like extensive Prequel CGI?

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Freeman does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Im talking Martin not Morgan. moonlightdrive, I do agree that Martin Freeman plays a similar character every role (actually so does Morgan Freeman too come to think of it!)... but I quite like his regular Joe style. Plus hes one of those actors you can see *thinking* so he makes a very good connector to the audience, and is quite convincing at playing someone who seems out of his depth. Im thinking Gandalf will be the Sherlock to his Watson!

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    No Evangeline Lily in the trailer?

    by pumaman

    Where is she precious??????

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    No Evangeline Lily in this trailer bc she's been moved

    by D.Vader

    No longer will she be in this movie. Bc of the 3rd movie's creation, she's now been moved to the 2nd one.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Not sure that is a sword, more of a letter-opener

    by MoaKaka

    Is this type of humor in the book? There's something "off" about them . . . too modern or too flippant or too something. I'm just an ignoramus, never read Tolkien.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST

    To you doubters, its only a trailer

    by david starling

    And it was impressive. You rate a movie on a trailer? Foolish. Wait for the movie, I think!!

  • You know, as in NOT INSIDE? Come up for air every now and again. The large, warm, round object in the sky is the SUN. That blue stuff surrounding it is the SKY. Those large non-moving green haired monsters are ENTS...er...TREES. For heaven's sake have you forgotten what real stuff looks like? It all looks CG to you, doesn't it? Search your feelings. You know this is going to be epically good. You know that you are probably going to cry at the end of the third movie when you realize that it's all done and there won't be any more (hell, I know I will). This is pretty much the best thing coming down the pike cinematically. And you choose to shit on it before you see it. You have allowed your inner child to die for no good reason other than to appear to be a hipster to people who don't know you or care about you. I suspect that your life is ruled by negativity and that you find your life to be one that lacks the joy you desire. It's not too late. Resuscitate your inner child. Live for wonder and expectation instead of sarcasm and negativity. And return to that kid who saw that one great movie all those years ago that made you dream of the magic in the theater. Get back your hope.

  • Sept. 20, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST

    STFU Nerds, we are getting a Hobbit movie

    by SlickyVonBoner

    just quit your bitching and enjoy.

  • Your treatise on the minor celebrity of the aicn naysayer may be the quote of the decade. Well done sir, you absolutely nailed the proto-intellectual wannabe desires of the average aicn expert in a way which I have been unable.<p> Again, I say, well done.....

  • Sept. 21, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Docpazuz

    by krylite

    Exactly right. PJ and crew incorporated much of the wording from the book right into the dialog. If they had every scene in the book done, they would have to have made six movies instead of three for LOTR , maybe even nine. Jackson and crew covered the themes very well, and it's apparent even through subtlety which a movie can do in visuals without having to spell it all out like a documentary. Like the first 15 hobbiton minutes of FOTR you get an intro in the hobbit people crammed with all kinds of detail. The actors weren't Tolkien fans or scholars but Jackson and his team read over his materials several times while Lucas finally crammed up a crappy script for TPM. Hardly the time he had to "borrow" ideas from LOTR, lensman and japanese movies in the couple of years he wrote the script for Star Wars. Vader is very much a Ringwraith and a former powerful warrior. Death Star is fortressed Mordor and the exhaust port is hard to reach crack of Doom. Lucas' great original idea was the trench racing because he was a wannabe desert racer in Modesto. ROTK like Return of the Jedi? What nonsense, only the one of three movies to win the most oscars in the all time history of movies. Take that electric prod to the butt, ewok-brains.

  • Sept. 25, 2012, 4:14 a.m. CST

    I really love this trailer, but I wish we were getting 2 films, not 3

    by Winston Smith

    And I have a feeling when we're at 2014, I'll be saying, these Hobbit films are good, but they didn't need to be 3 films. There'll either be a lot of padding, or a major case of blueballs. 2 films was the perfect idea. Each at 2 and a half to 3 hours. Perfect. Quality over quantity, please. King Kong was all quantity and thus it was a mix of great scenes and absolute shit.