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Tonight, REVOLUTION Will Be Televised!! But Hercules Is Not Yet Electrified By NBC’s New World-Without-Power Saga!!
A new sci-fi series set 15 years after a mysterious event somehow renders all motor vehicles and electrical devices on the planet (even the ones that run on batteries) useless, “Revolution” comes to us from J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot production company (“Fringe,” “Person of Interest”) and writer-producer Eric Kripke (creator of The WB’s “Tarzan” and “Supernatural”).
Basically it’s about a post-modern world in which everybody is forced to live like the Amish – well, except for all that abstaining-from-violence nonsense.
NBC put the pilot on the Internet a while ago, so I’m going to lean into the spoilers pretty hard here.
There’s a mysterious fellow named Sebastian Monroe who oversees a post-electricity regional government called the Monroe Republic. Monroe dispatches a badass named Capt. Tom Neville (Giancarlo Esposito, who used to play Gus Fring on “Breaking Bad”) to find Miles Matheson (Billy Burke, dad from the “Twilight” movies), a former U.S. government employee who may know why the lights went out and, more importantly, may even have some ideas regarding how to get them back on.
Monroe believes if he can get tanks and bombers and flashlights working again he can destroy all the other regional governments and rule the planet. Which he’ll no doubt rename The Planet Monroe.
But here’s the bad news for Monroe. This Miles Matheson guy has grown so good with a sword in the post-iPhone era that he can singlehandedly defeat a whole platoon of Monroe militiamen, even though the militiamen have guns and Matheson doesn’t. (If “Raiders of the Lost Ark” hilariously demonstrated that a guy with a gun can easily defeat a really accomplished swordsman, “Revolution” demonstrates that this Matheson guy can somehow dodge bullets as easily as he can impale loads of riflemen.)
The pilot, directed by Jon Favreau (“Iron Man,” “Cowboys & Aliens”), filled me with questions like these:
* Why are the guys with the guns losing to the guy with the sword? Does it have something to do with that giant staircase?
* There more than 200 million privately owned guns in the United States. What kind of song and dance did the Monroe Republic gin up to get all those dues-paying NRA members to surrender their firearms?
* If electricity is truly no more, how can humans continue to function without the electrical impulses that allow them to think and move?
* Given that Matheson is such a super-high-value target, why do the guys sent to capture Matheson carry what look like old-timey muskets instead of machine guns, or even a nifty modern pistol like the one Esposito’s character utilizes early in the pilot? Didn’t the manufacture of bullets predate electricity?
* Why does Matheson wait around for hours for the Monroe militiamen to return with gun-toting reinforcements, only to explain to them that he doesn’t want a fight?
* Is it not a huge coincidence that Matheson’s fugitive nephew just happens to stumble onto a random farm on which an ornate and seemingly magical electricity-generating thumb-drive resides?
On the upside, some of the post-apocalyptic production design is dang cool. And even if all of the good guys feel undercooked I reatlly kind of liked Esposito’s ruthless/irritable militia captain.
Also? Puffy-lipped 16-year-old Canadian Tracy Spiridakos, who plays Matheson’s bow-toting niece Charlie, is already hot enough, apparently, to pose shirtless for GQ!
By far the most interesting parts of the pilot are the 15-years-earlier bits, which feature powerless jetliners crashing to earth and a little-girl version of Charlie being told, more or less, that she’ll probably never taste ice cream again. (Though I like to imagine a curious passing Amish fellow peering at the ice-cream scene through Charlie’s window, then shrugging and remarking, “I believe I’ll go home and enjoy some ice cream, a confection invented more than a thousand years before the electric freezer.”)
Importantly, “Revolution” is not another show about cops or lawyers. (I was going to add “doctors,” but there is at least one doctor character in the show.)
I got all the way through the increasingly disappointing “The Event,” “Alcatraz” and “Terra Nova” series just because I was more intrigued by their respective premises than anything that was going on with “NCIS Los Angeles.” I’ll probably watch next week’s episode of “Revolution” for the same reason. It’s anybody’s guess how much farther I can coast on a show without power.
... a fairly low-wattage result. … though Esposito and Burke are both excellent — and Kripke and Favreau stage a classic swashbuckling swordfight for Miles that's easily the highlight of the first hour — far too much time is spent on the boring (Charlie) or annoying (Danny) teenagers, once again trying to force youth appeal into a show without bothering to generate characters that viewers of any age will actually care about watching. …
... Will "Revolution" be able to inject its tech-dystopia with real stakes if it's hard to care whether the younger characters live or die? Will it be one of those shows where the Big Concept crowds out the construction of a believable world and compelling relationships? I simply don't know … only time will tell whether this show will finally break the curse of every show from "FlashForward" to "V" to "The Event" and "Invasion" and "Terra Nova" and "V" and a dozen other shows I've spent too much time rewriting in my head. …
… the pilot, at least, is engaging and suspenseful... It’s appealing to people who have no patience for historical fiction (too many plagues, pilgrimages and lute players) or time travel (please), but do hanker for sword fights and the phhhttt of an arrow right through the neck.…
… the characters are fairly stock, the situations familiar and, some nifty digital backgrounds notwithstanding, the production continually felt more like an elaborate game of let's pretend than it did a window into some real other world. I didn't buy a second of it. ... The effect of the permanent blackout has included the partial destruction of the Golden Gate Bridge and the St. Louis Gateway Arch, which I am pretty sure would withstand a simple absence of power and would indeed be harder to destroy without it. (Although gunpowder does seem to still work.) But it does say "post-apocalypse." One might point out as well that humankind led a relatively civilized and technologically complicated existence before electric power and that the Industrial Revolution ran not on electricity but steam. …
... the writing can be a bit corny, the action sequences a tad ridiculous and the plot prone to nit-picking. … The hourlong pilot had a strong start and finish. It was the stuff in the middle that gave me pause. …
... I’m on the fence. In just one episode, “Revolution” feels already too rushed (trying to beat the cancellation clock, no doubt), concerned more with its melodrama and sword fights than easing us into the idea of what it’s like to cope without power. …
The San Francisco Chronicle says:
... a good adventure yarn, but the other reason we're likely to watch future episodes is that it grounds the action in thought-provoking themes. …
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:
... a pretty solid hour of television, setting up the show's premise and in several instances defying TV norms with plot twists viewers won't see coming. So let's hope the following episodes will be as good. …
... One of the most intriguing series of fall … NBC hasn’t had much luck launching a serialized sci-fi show. Both “Heroes” and “The Event” started strong and fizzled. But there’s reason to hope here: Kripke honed “Supernatural’s” mythology and made that show a cult hit. “Revolution” may yet spark your imagination.
... you may find yourself remembering Flash Forward, another show with a brilliant opening scene that was all dumb questions with no smart answers. Not to say it may not have answers. It just needs to provide a few of them, and quickly.
... doesn’t make a lot of sense, but it’s a lot of fun. …
... For every arresting image, there's a lot of wandering around in the overgrown woods, and reason for skepticism as to whether audiences will patiently stick with the show. …
10 p.m. Monday. NBC.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 6:46 a.m. CST
Concept sounds exactly like 'Dies the Fire' by S.M Sterling
by Goon Bighead
there's a whole series of books set in a world like this. Granted, they suck, but he should get some dough from this if he isn't.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 6:58 a.m. CST
Giancarlo Esposito went from Breaking Bad to this shit?!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
He needs to fire his agent, pronto.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 6:58 a.m. CST
And yes, I know Esposito had to leave Breaking Bad. I'm being facetious.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Sept. 17, 2012, 7:02 a.m. CST
Echo that, goon bighead. Abrams must have read the blurb of Dies The Fire.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
If kilt-wearing pagans turn up in Revolution, SM Stirling will have a legal case. Unfortunately, this is similar to Once Upon A Time/Fables -- similar concept, you can bet your grandmother's valuables they ripped the other off, but unfortunately the networks have too much money and loopholes covering their asses to sue them. I might actually ask Stirling if he optioned the rights to his novels to any network/studio. It won't really matter though, Revolution is crap and won't last long. No electricity, but all the women look like models who just stepped out of a hair salon.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 7:05 a.m. CST
Fuck me, Revolutions creators have read Stirling's Dies The Fire. Plagiarism proof -->
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Dies The Fire's main protagonist is an ex-military Mike Havel. One of the people he saves is a teenage girl who is an expert archer. Exactly the same as Revolution's Matheson character and his bow-toting niece Charlie. Blatant plagiarism.
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I refuse to spend another cent or another hour of my entertainment budget on his Bad Robot bullshit. All of it from Lost to Cloverfield to Star Trek Wars sucked out loud. Never again.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 7:24 a.m. CST
Whoever came up with 'Jar Jar Abrams' deserves a Congressional Medal
by Hardboiled Wonderland
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Sept. 17, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST
if this was on HBO at least I could look forward to Tracy Spiridakos getting naked
by Titus05
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thats the short review of it.
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...where everyone looks far too clean and well-nourished. I gave up on Falling Skies this season mainly because everyone looks too goddamn HEALTHY.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST
16?!?!? And GQ sees nothing wrong with having her more than half naked and underage! Next month: 27 year old photos of Traci Lords!
by R Howell
Not that I'm complaining about these shots, mind you. Tracy is smoking hot and looks WAYYYYYYYY older than 16 (which I am still having trouble believing).
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Fuck fucker fucking fucked!
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These kinds of shows seem to start with an extreme "high concept" idea and worry about the logic later. Hence LOST. This idea is obviously silly and any attempt to give it some rational explanation is going to seem silly. Having said that, I'm a sucker for high budget fantasy TV and will give it a chance for an episode or two - even though rag tag bands of survivors are SO fucking cliche. Heck I stuck with LOST for two seasons.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST
I agree with 'nasty': why the hell are all these people clean shaven with coifed hair and clean, new clothes 15 YEARS AFTER THE END OF ELECTRICITY?!?
by R Howell
Say what you want about the Walking Dead, but at least those people look like they've been through hell, and they still have electricity and running water in some places! I don't know what to make of this show, and I hope it turns out to be better than the commercial makes it look (like a cross between Hunger Games and every failed ambitious NBC show of the last decade). I really do hope they explain just why everybody looks like they've only gone 2-3 days without modern conviences, since everyone is WAYYYY to clean, epecially in a world where downtown Chicago not only looks to be relatively empty but completely overgrown with foliage that can grow up the Hancock building. Honestly, the ONLY thing that's keeping me interested in this show is the hope that it will be more Fringe than Fash Forward or the dozens of other high concept shows that manage to get one season before getting canceled. Also, the lead actress is smoking hot (but apparently only 16, which I still can't get my head around given that she looks at least 20).
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It's the tv version of that Talking Heads song.
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So I have no problem drooling over that lovely photo.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST
No one in this universe looked at a steam locomotive at a musem and thought: "that could work"?
by whatevillurks
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It appears that besides the logic issues discussed above, must folks can't get past the tech problems the background has. Making BULLETS, not musket balls is a low-tech thing. You don't need electricity if you got the pieces you need. It was always a curious thing to me about The Road Warrior but at least there were guns, but bullets were like gold. But, they existed. Steam-powered ANYTHING would work fine and dandy (trains, cars, FACTORIES) As spoiled as we Americans can be, I don't think we'd totally forego technology from the 18th century and somehow stumble back to the 16th.
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We don't know that some other people haven't figured out how to steam power things. Or aren't churning out massive amounts of bullets. What struck me as odd, was that the guards outside of Monroe's tent appeared to be holographic sights on their guns. But anyway, we've only seen a small drop of the world as it exists. Yes they could probably do steam powered things but you first have to have the infrastructure and knowledge to build them (parts crap like that) if the show gets picked up into more seasons hopefully they'll get into this a bit more. And as for the gun thing, Monroe probably convinced the solders on the base to follow him and a well armed military team is going to be able to overwhelm a lot of the scattered groups they probably would have come across. And you start hearing stories about these groups getting taken out, and to keep it from happening to your family all you have to do is give them your guns and pay some food taxes every year? I'm sure there are a lot of people that would probably sign up.
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but the show is obviously lacking any plausible sci-fi tropes and that is usually an indication that the writers are in love with the concept and end-result, and have completely no fucking idea how things got to where they are.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 11 a.m. CST
So government collapes because everyone's iPods quit working?
by Lukes Lost Hand
The entire concept of the show is retarded. It's only been 15 years since power no longer works? So that means libraries should still be around and I'm pretty sure every engineer on the planet didn't just cease to exist. Suddenly the U.S. reverts to it's early 19th century self where, as has been pointed out, steam is king. Manufacturing, logistics, and the economy move on. As a matter of fact unemployment rates would PLUMMET because factories full of robots are gone. And the ridiculous shots of Chicago with building overgrown with plants...JESUS! Oh no how ever were cities maintained before electricity? Fuck sakes this show isn't getting one second of my viewership.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST
It's just a boring show. The characters are good actors/actresses, they just fall flat.. Not interesting or exciting enough. The story is also pretty boring, Jerico was far better.
by happybunni
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i wondered that myself
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what kind of idiot military leader puts his camp in a valley or depression. rule number one, take the high ground. and why are they in tents?
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That what looks to be a really lame show about the lights going out's coming at roughly the same time as the lights are going out on just about every single show that I watch new episodes of - Breaking Bad, The Office, 30 Rock, and (sometimes) Community. =(
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Sept. 17, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST
Is it me, or are some of those names the least-subtle I Am Legend references ever?
by memento108
I still may check the show out...
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Agreed, Jerico was a similar but far better show and it barely got a season and a half. With JJ's name on it, this one will probably get at least two full seasons before it dies. And I immediately thought of Sterling's novels when I heard the concept. They probably changed it just enough not to get sued. How can companies get away with stuff like this yet Disney can keep getting the patent laws changed to keep Mickey Mouse FOREVER?
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Really. What does a half-naked shot of an underage actress have to do with this show? Typical. Can't imagine why people think AICN readers are mostly pubescent young boys. Clearly, Herc is.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST
Since the early days of 24 and "Naked Mandy" comments in every damn episode post...
by memento108
...clearly Herc has not changed a bit.
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It suffers from Terra Nova syndrome, as in everyone if beautiful, stylish, and well fed and groomed for the post apocalypse. Lame teenage angst instead of proper conflict. And ultimately, the premise is mucho silly. Even Flashforward had a better premise than this. Shame, as I want to get into another sci ish show. I'll try a couple more, but I dont think it will go anywhere.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST
I'm watching this just to get a good laugh. But like all who noticed the whole thing with the characters who look like well groomed fresh out of the gap look. The best probable "look" has to be The Road and if your post apocalyptic show can't pull even th
by Cedric Ford
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Sept. 17, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST
And if JJ thought this was a great idea please get in touch with me! I got better treatments! Way better!
by Cedric Ford
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Sept. 17, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST
Keep reading around the net that she's actually older than 16.
by K3nn3th
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Sept. 17, 2012, 12:41 p.m. CST
One day people will finally realise that JJ Abrams is very overrated
by albert comin
One day.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST
What really would happen if the power went out forever:
by FluffyUnbound
We'd lose refrigerated rail cars, and we'd lose most of the rolling stock of our existing car and truck fleet. That would cause starvation and anarchy, up to and including cannibalism, that would wipe out around 95% of the current population. Maybe more. It would be worst in the cities, because they would have the highest ratio of people to available stored food, but anywhere a mob could walk or ride bicycles would not do too well either. BUT - that's the first two years after shit does down. What would it look like in 15 years? As other posters have pointed out, the libraries would still be there. The first generation's engineering knowledge would still exist. After the initial hell ended, life would probably actually be pretty good for the survivors. You could still apply hydropower directly to mechanical work (like the first mills) instead of to electrical generation. You could still use steam power. You'd essentially have a very small population with access to the entire continent to feed itself, so we wouldn't need the outsized yields we currently have per acre in agriculture - the yields we could achieve using modern varieties and re-tooled non-internal-combustion-engine methods would do us just fine. Most people would probably live like successful 19th century gentleman farmers.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 1 p.m. CST
It would be almost as good as a partial plague apocalypse.
by FluffyUnbound
If there was ever a plague scenario, where 90% of the population bit the dust, but everything else still worked, the survivors would probably live in paradise 15 years after the last plague victim died. That's how my OMEGA MAN script would work: Everybody dies, survivors suddenly have continent of resouces and small population, everybody is really happy and secretly glad plague happened. The end. Assuming the survivors got a handle on the nuke plant problem, of course. You need a nuclear winter scenario, or something silly like this no electricity shit, to even give western man a challenge in a post-apocalyptic milieu. Our level of knowledge lets us support BILLIONS; if all at once we only had to support millions, to our level of technical ability that's a fucking joke.
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"the pilot, at least, is engaging and suspenseful... " My ass. But JJ IS one of them and they stick together to stick it to you.
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Cool posts. And you're right. There are some interesting accounts from the time of the first great plague in the 1400's. Europe lost about 75% of its population over about 5 years. Its what ended the Dark Ages, and the feudal lords system, and gave woman the right to own property, as there were not enough peasants left to work the land for the gentry, and there were loads of ladies, who's husbands died without heirs, that the land would have reverted to the common folk if they couldnt inherit it. And the next age that came was the Renaissance. And there are some great accounts of people drinking and fucking and partying for a few years after, as there was so much land, property, and provisions around. The world seems to come on in big jumps after a major population decline. Interesting *strokes chin*
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Christ, this looks awful. WTF are people thinking?
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This just wrong- in Stirlings Fire/change Series- we lose gunpowder and Steam- because there are basic changes in Pressure laws, gas expansion as well as changes in conductivity that allows life forms to function but not any metallic-normal conductors maybe silly but a viable SCI FI concept with no guns or anyway to travel faster than bikes and horses yes governments all fall- but Rome, Britain China and India various Empires all seemed to work with no electric-yes there would be a mess- but our varied armed forces/police have something like 3-5 billion small arms rounds laying let alone every other american family- my brother alone kept 5-10K rounds loaded himself and had 10-12 mil-spec weapons...(legal, he had a gunsmith class 3 license xmil kid)
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This such a DTF copy but with guns...guns and steam engines allowed us to get to global empires- cities very well could fall apart- plagues could wipe out large amounts of people but all in medical care will be much better than 19th Century- many effective meds do not need refrigeration (plus you can rig refrigeration from certain large low pressure steam engines) NYC is toast yeah Chicago but if guns still worked- you've got Jericho more the Borgias
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Sept. 17, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST
Do thunderstorms still produce lightning in this electricity free world?...
by redtom
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if the landmarks were seen burned down instead of covered in vines. No electricity = people light candles for light, and fires for heat. Fires get out of control due to accidents, negligence, or stupidity. I don't get this show's premise so don't know how much today's firefighters would be hampered by no power. Regardless, they'd be working more than normal and, I guess, modern buildings' fire suppression systems wouldn't work. Also take away people's twitter and youtube and microwave pizzas = riots. And with riots come fires. Firefighters aren't keen on going into a riot zones to put out fires so they'll tend to burn unchallenged.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST
This Tracy Spiridakos could play Helen Of Troy easily.
by albert comin
She's even greek to begin with.
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Will not be televised! A great song!!! Gil Scott Heron rocks! Sadly, I remember when that came out. Esposito alone "Do The Right Thing," "Homicide," and of course, "Breaking bad" warrants watching this show. Count me in.
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I don't get all the drama in this world and concept. If this happened, besides no internet, TV, power etc. people would still live in their houses, and lots of people would still have businesses and jobs. There's no reason for example why a typical suburb would look any different after this except for no lights and cars.
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Very clever slipping in some anti-semetic conspiracy bullshit without using any of the buzz words. You doofuses are usually not so subtle. Are you a next generation David Icke wacko? ConspiracyNut.0?
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To be fair, the pilot episode of Jericho sucked. It wasn't until episode 5 or so that things started getting interesting. I wouldn't dismiss Revolution based solely on what happens tonight; it still has time to improve or sufficiently differentiate itself from other post-apocalyptic TV shows.
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Guns are illegal in the Monroe Republic!
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There is a gun for every 2 people in the United States. Fifteen years after electricity goes, we forget how to make gunpowder? Yeah...
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Its the general laziness of everything else. The characters, the dialogue, the set design (why would the buildings and houses they live in and use be overrun by plants?). I could figure the sloppiness of the stupid premise if ANYTHING else about it was compelling, but its clear Abrams is fine just coming up with an idea, lazily sketching out some filler, and ending each episode with a cliffhanger to propel things forward (because moving forward using story/character development takes some actual talent).
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the difference is people would be more fitter at having to physically work - food would be more organic and less manufactured. People would be smarter at having to read for entertainment and join live theater groups, learn to play music. Plus people would still be able to brew their own liquor, grow their own weed. Kids would still be able to skate board and bike and hang out to do kid shit. Women would be able to do arts & crafts & yoga n shit, while men bbq-ed and played sports & watch organized community games.
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I'm Occupy Wall Street
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The lack of free current flow through a conductor is not the same thing as the lack of electricity. Yes, if there were no potential differences or exchange of charge, chemical processes, guns, and life would not work. However, if the macguffin is that current no longer flows freely through semiconductors or conductors, due to quantum eddy currents or some other handwavium, you'd get all these effects without ending life, lightning, or the mighty power of the gun. I haven't seen the pilot yet, and don't know if this is the route they went, but just because you don't understand the mystery process they used to get their tale does not mean the mystery process is invalid. I choose to have faith and enjoy it for what it is (or might be).
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Sept. 17, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST
Saw it- it was not thought out very well, lacks verisimilitude, is rife with clues to bigger mysteries (seen that all before) but is somehow still entertaining and watchable- dumb trying to be smart show - oh well- did anyone expect really anything differ
by Michael Lunney
dumb trying to be smart show - oh well- did anyone really expect anything different?
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Sept. 17, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST
amaysingstories - but the details surrounding the premise are not very smartly executed
by Michael Lunney
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For your intelligent defense of Revolution's premise, but more importantly for introducing me to the word "handwavium."
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Sept. 17, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST
So, was this released early to give the producers and writers tiume to explain away all the dumbness, for example, that Herc sees???
by Michael Lunney
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KtAgAMzaeg
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Who come up with these ideas that seem designed to alienate the people who might otherwise watch it?
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They'd roam the countryside taking up all the women folk and have themselves a time! They'd use and abuse both the women AND men, and most certainly the young-in's that need to learn early on how unfair this new "gentlemen farmers" world really is! So protect your women, children, and buttholes! Hell; they'll screw the farm animals!
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Sept. 17, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
NBC was great when there were these things called.."sitcoms" and real series shows...
by DARKJEDI
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Sept. 17, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST
JJ Abrahams IS overrated, but every now and then he helps create an incredible product (Lost, Fringe) and then steps back IMMEDIATELY to let it flourish!
by R Howell
It's what I am hoping Joss Whedon will now be doing, if the networks FINALLY get their shit together. But in the case of Joss, I would hope he could get his brother and sister-in-law there own ORIGINAL show and not just the new SHIELD program (though I am glad it will be in good hands with them). Dollhouse is HANDS DOWN the most UNDERRATED show of the last few years. It took a whole half-season to get REALLY good, but the entire second season was EPIC and brought an incredible amount of closure to the story. That was mostly due to Zak and Mara, who are fast proving they are worthy torchbearers of the Whedon style.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 6:07 p.m. CST
the answer to the big mystery of Revoltion? of course..
by Michael Lunney
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Sept. 17, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST
theobserver - do you think it would be cool to have Whedon's new series set in the late 60's with the original Fury, now in his mid 50's, and call it, NICK FURY, AGENT OF S.H.I.E.L.D?
by Michael Lunney
I imagine now he could do whatever he wants....like something FANS. And WE want something different than the same old shit, over and over and over... Oh well, a boy can dream, can't he??????
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Sept. 17, 2012, 6:25 p.m. CST
th is too weird - speaking of Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D, there is a new show on called Alien Deep... and get this kids:
by Michael Lunney
I walk into the living room, where I am recording Alien Deep, a new 5 part series on NatGeo, and the narrator says: 8,000 feet deep, on the ocean floor, lives a newly discovered species of blind, hairy crustaceans, named the Hoff Crab, NAMED AFFECTIONATELY AFTER HAIRY CHESTED ACTOR DAVID HASSELHOFF!!!! I shit you not... look it up!!!! too fucking weird...
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Sept. 17, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST
Nuclear Winter wouldn't affect the entire world, not currently
by Dandelion.
There's some cool maps around the internets showing where all the nuclear power plants in the US are, and what would happen if they all suddenly failed. Bottom line? The east coast is fucked, but the bulk of the west would be just fine.
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i disagree that there would be mass starvation and madness also disagree that centralized government would collapse immediately we would be shoved back to 19th century life, and that could cause some strife, but here are things that would happen just like during ww2, people would create victory gardens/farms my grandmother still had hers till the day she died....her entire backyard in oakland california was a mini farm collectives would form steam power will be used candle makers will become rich mitt romney will be a pauper western states may make militias to keep out the riff raff as many will try to leave colder states all migrant workers will leave people will gravitate back to their religions...atheism will be a thing of the pass rush limbaugh will be forced to eat his own fat ass i dont think it would be such a horror
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Sept. 17, 2012, 7:07 p.m. CST
mcgootoo - honestly, not as a main setting, but DEFINTELY lots of flashback/time travel potential to tell cool stories from that era!
by R Howell
I would like this show to be a launching pad for lesser known Marvel characters who may get a spin off of their own. Why ABC hasn't greenlit AKA Jessica Jones (that I believe was to feature Luke Cage and Iron Fist) is beyond me! Marvel needs to take that next logical leap to the small screen where they could EASILY have 2-4 shows on at a time in a few years. I'm shocked that they haven't done so already.
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http://simplisticreviews.blogspot.com/2012/09/revolution.html
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Fuck your ice.
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Sponging off of mommy and daddy for your silly little urban camping trips, take a shower and stop thinking you matter(you don't you're an imbecile) you fucking cowardly fat ass puke.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST
It's not the premise that's the problem with Revolution...
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Despite it being blatant plagiarism. The main problem is the boring, cliched, annoying characters and boring, cliched, annoying story. Revolution is like going to a fancy restaurant and being served soggy cardboard, it's that uninteresting.
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... someone on AICN reviewed Game of Thrones and wrote it was about time Sansa had sex, or something similar. Apologies if it wasn't Herc, but someone else.
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15 years after the lights go out people can't make cartridge ammunition that could be manufactured in the 1800's but Underarmour and hair conditioner are apparently readily available. Ok then.
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Sept. 17, 2012, 9:31 p.m. CST
30 minutes in...it sucks. I'm getting Terra Nova flashbacks.
by DrPain
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Obviously the studio didn't want to pay him for the rights, so like Cheap ass Click Club Hollywood Good Ole Boy Groupies they are, they altered a few of his concepts in attempt to bypass him, dumbing down the script, cliche characters, etc. and turning a 5 star concept into a 2 star dud. Stirling should sue them big time. His books, especially the first three should have been turned into a series or movies, they would just be expensive.
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Spiridakos, who's in her early 20s but has already adopted the old actors' attitude that exact age should be a closely guarded secret, said she knew very early in life that she wanted to be a performer.
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http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/entertainment/TV/no-trick-all-treat-64901022.html
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Has potential if they do it right. Not hopeful, but will give it time to develop.
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The woman with the secret working computer speaking to an unknown entity via MSDOS is right from season one of Jericho.
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I didn't really realize how implausible it all was until I read all the talkbacks. But it definitely feels like Jericho without the decent characters.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 12:33 a.m. CST
On the Oak Park High School web site, they congratulate her for getting the part on the show. Thanks for the link, severianx1.
by L.H.Puttgrass
The Oak Park High School site also refers to Tracy as a member of the Class of 2000. Do the math. That would put her age around 28 - 30 years old. Not 16, 18, or her early 20s. Of course, she may have graduated at an earlier age. She would've had to skip several years to be in her early 20s. If I had to guess, I'd say she's about 22-23. Who knows? One article says she wants to keep her real age a mystery. I think her character on the show was 4 when the power goes out. Add the '15 years later' and Charlie is 19. I guess this is par for the course on TV these days. Actors who are pushing 30 are playing characters that are pushing 20. Oh, well...
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Sept. 18, 2012, 12:52 a.m. CST
just watched the NON-EPIC STAIRCASE SWORDFIGHT SCENE and it totally sucked... F-
by uberfreak
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Its the only thing that looks good among all of the new shows. Interesting thing back when I saw it at Comic-Con they had Harper from Lost (the Other psycologist married to Goodwin that he cheated on with Juliet) was originally the Mom/wife, and she was actually very nice. But I guess that audiences or big wigs ddn't like her performance so it looks like she was replace with Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet)
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I'm not sure about this show, but someone mentioned Once Upon A Time/Fables, thats totally wrong. The creator of Fables said in this site that he had spoken quite a bit with the creators of OUAT and its all coincidence.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 1 a.m. CST
The lady in the farm house was Walt's Mother Michael's ex-wife on Lost.
by Paul
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As written in previous posts, how hard would it be to adapt steam engines? Early 20th century, the steam car was sold right along side the internal combustion engine, Jay Leno owns one. If this happened in the real world, I agree, the first few years would be hell on earth, but human beings adapt. Steam locomotives, steam cars, steam powered factories. And the Chicago streets flooded? Did everyone become lazy- how did pre-electricity civilizations pump out water?
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Sept. 18, 2012, 1:29 a.m. CST
If Revolution was good, less people would care about the ice cream and stolen scenes.
by happybunni
Too bad it's not good....
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I think 1 hour wasn't enough time to set up the story, the situations, and the characters. The result is too much convenience in the plot. The kid escapes the militia, is cared for by a woman, the militia comes and takes him back, then the woman unlocks a big door and goes in and fires up her secret computer with her own special thumbdrive. She tells someone about the militia visit on the computer. All that to tell us there are people with working computers in the middle of nowhere for God knows what reason. The kid was pretty lucky he did his face-plant on her front doorstep. Not so lucky to get caught. No change for him. A 2 hour pilot would have given more time for filling in the thin areas and maybe fewer convenient coincidences in the plot. I'll tune in next week and see where it goes.
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will watch a few more to see if it gets better or crumbles under its own weight. Hell, I made it through Jericho and Falling Skies, and they turned out to be quite watchable if you turn off half your brain. But, Mondays are looking dreary right now. Guys like Esposito and Zelko Ivanek deserve better vehicles for their talent.
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From the Eagle comic in the 1980's. It had a similar premise.
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So yeah, I watched "Revolution" last night... I thought it had some huge plot holes... an EMP that takes out the entire world within seconds?... the people have resorted to using muskets? If they can make muskets then they would definitely have more modern firearms. Gunsmithing is a very alive art/craft... and with all cheap reloading presses gun enthusiasts can buy... ammo wouldn't be that much of a problem... at least not for awhile. Revolution" had so much potential... but the story was lacking... I didn't really see a concrete "ongoing quest" that would keep me coming back.
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Enjoy your ice cream! You'll never have it again! Uhmm, you can make ice cream without electricity.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 6:32 a.m. CST
Maybe if this doesn't bomb someone will plagiarize ISLAND IN THE SEA OF TIME next.
by FluffyUnbound
That would be frickin' sweet. And then the Draka. Once the suits start stealing from a given writer, they don't stop until they steal every last thing, so this is not an insane idea. Here's my idea for plagiarizing the Draka: You have somebody get bonked on the head and they move back and forth between different realities, like the Mirror Universe in Trek. One reality is ours, the other reality is *Evil America* where they have a Draka-style society. And the person going back and forth decides to try to lead a revolution in the Mirror Universe. But meanwhile, in this reality, the people he turns to for help are secretly pumping him for information about the Evil America's slave control technologies to try to lead a coup HERE.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST
They're all in the Matrix, and Twilight Dad is the "Neo"
by Mikeyeieio
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Sept. 18, 2012, 8:01 a.m. CST
I'm kidding, between my DVR and HBO GO, I haven't watched a "live" show in some time
by Mikeyeieio
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To clarify my point - This is what you get when you fuck a monkey in Africa for the fun of it, then come back to the United States and fuck as many dudes in the asshole as possible. Wait three years, then die a painful, pitiful death. Revolution is EXACTLY like that.
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It isn't about the power going out, it is about the characters!
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I'd like to start a petition. Send 20 tons of nuts to NBC so they promise to cancel this show sooner rather than later. Save us the agony...this premiere was nowhere near as intriguing as "The Event", and that's not exactly a compliment. "Jericho" had more heart and soul, more cool characters, and a better premise. A very strange mixture of "Jericho" and "The Hunger Games", I laughed at all the wrong moments and mocked the characters too much for this to have a chance for me. The biggest surprise was the pedigree behind this episode; how did they miss the mark so badly? (How quickly did those characters get over the death of the father? The best friend, the "new Mom" and the daughter may as well have tripped over dear ol' Dad's body as they hurried off on their quest!)
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Shitty paint-by-numbers characters. Must we have another obese, sarcastic, depressed pseudo-techie character? Was the douchebag on SGU not obnoxious enough?
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all these shows looks and feel the same. Terra Nova, Walking Dead, Falling skies and now this one. TV is dead!
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...like I did with Falling Skies, Terra Nova, Jericho, and Dollhouse... ...before realizing that I don't give a fuck about any of the characters, and could care less about how it all turns out.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 9:30 a.m. CST
Got a boring Hunger Games vibe from it. It wasn't good.
by mistergreen
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Actually - she is only 16. http://www.buddytv.com/info/tracy-spiridakos-info.aspx
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Being on a Big Three moves up the timetable, but I have faith that Kripke can and will get this show up to snuff. Not that Herc would know, since he loves to hate on Supernatural for some stupid reason...
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I am also a lesbian trapped in a man's body. Let's just say I get away with a lot of things. Supernatural is a lot of fun by the way and more people should check it out on Netflix. In contrast this show looks like crud.
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What was this creative team thinking? I certainly expected more from the behind the camera talent. This was an amazing bad kick-off to a series. The list of problems is simply too long to detail. Anyway, I would not get worked up over this trash as it will be cancelled after 1 year. You will NEVER know the answer of why the stupid lights went out. RIP
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You know, when it was a cartoon called Visionaries: Knights of Magical Light.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST
Two thoughts: it does look like Hunger Games and Trout Pout
by SergeantStedenko
It's pretty obvious someone said to Abrams, 'Can you make a show to capture the popularity of Hunger Games. Just like they did with Lost asking for a narrative show based on Survivor. Also, I don't know why young women do that to their lips. It never looks good. She ruined a perfectly pretty face. For life.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 12:30 p.m. CST
All it needed was zombies. That would have saved it.
by ToughGuyRizzo
I'll give it another week or so, but I'm not sold so far.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 12:30 p.m. CST
@ hardboiled wonderland , not sure if this is what you are referring to
by jim
There was a contest for the Game of Thrones PC game (or possibly the Bluray) where, to win, one had to write what their first order of business would be if they were named Hand of the King. One winner wrote his first order would be to have Sansa strip naked and give him a lap dance (or something in a similar vein). Many questioned the appropriateness of this winning entry, seeing as how the actress who plays Sansa is 16 while the character she plays is around 13.
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I'm no rocket scientist, or even a jet engine scientist, but I do know that jet engines aren't anti-gravity machines. Just because the engine no longer works doesn't meant the plane will suddenly drop straight down to the ground. Wouldn't they, eventually, go into a dive and crash nose-first, instead of suddenly going into a flat spin?
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Population of Chicago is several million people. And not one, in 15 years, thought to raid the airport? Sure, in a "World Without People" you would find an airplane with unopened baggage; however, in a world without power, with people, apparently, leaving the big cities, you'd have scavengers rooting through every bag and taking anything of use, leaving the rest where they dropped it. That's the thing about this show. Everything looks like there have been no people for 15 years, instead of looking like the results of a dwindling but desperate population scavenging and ransacking for the past 15 years.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST
Walking Dead minus Zombies, Hunger Games without Games
by letsfightinglove
This show was so damn stupid and boring. Sci-fi for retards.
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Seemed to me like they all just assume she's dead, that she went out and never came back. I'm guessing the recasting of Elizabeth Mitchell in the role means we'll be seeing mom again.
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didn't think about the plot holes, yep the quick " dads dead, lets trek to Chicago!" was ridiculous as well as the swashbuckling swordfight. i agree with others, probably needed a half an hour more to explain the ridiculousness. so, the dude from the cape is the villain well played. Nice to know you can get on a US base with just a tattoo. a tattoo with your own name as a logo no less! i'll give it a couple more eps to see it it lands upright or tanks completely, none of the actors at the moment stand out.
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Yeah I was thinking that also since they replaced the Others shrink Harper with Juliet, I bet about half way in we get a flashback of Elizabeth Mitchell falling down a hole or being dragged off somewhere and then she suddenly shows up in real time tougher because of the journey that she went through to find her family.
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as the farm woman with the other power necklace if Walt was the dead son and he was the whole cause of the power going out, or something to do with not pushing the button. LOL
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And I guess I'm more forgiving / less jaded than you lot, but I liked it. My guess is they are doing something along the lines of a cessation of current flow universally, but which can be locally fixed if you have the triangle dongle thingy. The characters are just beginning, so I'll cut them some slack. The only thing I didn't like were the coincidences: Miles being best buds with SGT/GEN Monroe and the woman the kid just happens to run into randomly being a key conspirator that happens to possess. That busted it up for me, but I'll stick with it. After all, there's not a whole lot of new sci-fi to choose from on the tube right now.
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I'm sorry buddy, but the first time is was called Thundarr the Barbarian.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST
'Revolution' premieres high, 'The Voice' wins night for NBC on Monday
by Paul
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s204/revolution/news/a406753/revolution-premieres-high-the-voice-wins-night-for-nbc-on-monday.html
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I haven't seen the episode yet, but have had Rocket Scientist and Avionics Engineer at various times on my business card, so in answer to your question. Planes just dont fall out of the air, a plane with the loss of all electronics (EMP maybe) can still glide and land if it can find a place to put it down. The easiest example that everyone on here can probably remember is Flight 1549 that was set down in the Hudson after a bird strike took out both engines of the plane. The plane stayed in the air 204 seconds after the strike before setting down in the Hudson River and its highest altitude was just over 3000 feet, a plane at cruising altitude can glide for alot longer.
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What about a full system shut down? Can flaps be manipulated on commercial aircraft without power? Regardless, I'd assume the planes, even being powerless and rudderless, would, like you said, glide, at least for a little while. The planes on the show seemed to drop like Yeager's at the end of "The Right Stuff", as soon as the blackout begins.
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Can flaps be manipulated on commercial aircraft without power? Usually they can. If the RAT (Ram Air Turbine) supplies hydraulic power, then you are going to have hydraulics powering your controls, it flies alot like your car without power steering, but you can make it happen. Some newer systems the RAT runs a generator only, if that happens and the electronics are shot, a plane is a big glider without alot of steering, but it still doesnt really fall out of the air. The same principles of flight still apply if you lose power, you just don't have the engines allowing you to adjust your speed without loss of altitude.
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Some interesting comments about lack of food vs high population impact. But has anyone considered how prior to food problems you would have water problems? People would be dying from lack of water way before lack of food. Homes require electricity for their pumps to work, towns and cities also. The loss of food, water, easy mobility and even heat (in winter areas) would cause massive population losses. At least in heavily industrialized nations. Also examples like the Black Plague or the Spanish Flu don't really compare. While both resulted in massive deaths, they were not world wide, did not happen almost at once and did not affect social structure in a massive, total and immediate way. No electricity would mean no central government, due to no long distant communication. No Navy, no Airforce and no real Army. You would have chaos in short order. It would take years to re-balance food production and distribution to population levels. Other power sources, to use steam or even water power would require an infrastructure which would no longer be there. Although small jury-rigged set-ups might work here or there. Everyone would be back to a black smith base. It would take decades to restate anything. So fewer people but more natural resources, yes. But better or easier life, you got to be kidding me. For the strong maybe. Some might say, hey we got along fine without it and had big civilizations. Well, yes we did. BUT, they we built up over long periods of time. Current civilization is complex and if suddenly broken would not likely survive long enough to be repaired or be able to be re-created in a similar mold. Oh..big question, how much of an impact would third world countries see? They might actually most retain their basic societies!
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First of all, Dies the Fire and all the books that followed were not about what would happen if the power went out but what makes a myth and a legend. The event that happened in that series was not created by man, but rather by something else. Alien Space Bats, to be exact. Revolution is not based on that, the only similarity is that all of the lights go out. That's all. Oh, and for those bitching about the sword fight against the gun wielders, bear in mind that they were using what amounted to breach-loading rifles, not repeaters, which meant that they had to fire, reload and fire again. A quick man, or someone with military training, could succeed. All of this is to say, Bellisarios' Maxim does apply here people. Sit back, relax and try not to look to close at it, because it is just a TV show.
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Sept. 18, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST
J.J. Abram's "Bad Reboot" production company
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
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It was like watching Stven Boyett's novels about "the change" except without magic, mystery, decent charicterization, deeper meanings, or any interesting thing at all. I've been waiting for Ariel to be filmed for decades.
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Great comments. Reminds me of James Burke's old documentary series. Argrarian fantasies are fun until you realize that if 200 people want the same turnip there's gonna be trouble. Civilization is tissue paper thin.
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dude says the same thing. we'll all be fucked when the oil runs out.
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Sept. 19, 2012, 6:38 a.m. CST
It's precisely the severity of the initial collapse that makes me hopeful about year 15
by FluffyUnbound
Things would be so extreme in the first two years that death rates would be in the 95% range. But that's actually GOOD for the survivors after year 3, because it sets the breakeven rate for food and energy production so low. The worst possible outcome for the survivors would be a 40 or 50% survival rate. We're not talking about a nuclear war. The entire physical infrastructure of the nation would still be there. As well as a huge amount of "stuff". Zero time would be consumed making things like tools or clothes for YEARS. Lots would be lost during the violent struggles to survive of the first two years, but lots would remain. The water power infrastructure is mainly already there. There are 5 places within 10 miles of my house where there used to be paper mills, and where the dams are still there. And there's a pretty big steam power hobbyist culture out there. There's at least one store within biking distance of my house that sells equipment to build hobby steam engines, and I live in frickin' Vermont.
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Sept. 19, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST
Hey, you know-it-alls "everthing would convert to steam powered, life would still be almost normal...etc"
by MoneyGrabSequel
If the power did suddenly go out for good there would be an extended period of chaos - people starving, looting on a national level, killing in the streets, mass panic - all leading to a huge die off. Most of the engineers and people with needed skills would be gone, police and military forces would abandon their posts to take care of their own struggling families. Governments would be powerless. Infrastructure would crumble fairly quickly without maintenance and cities would soon look like they did in the show. Once the smoke cleared, say two years, the survivors would live pretty much like the show depicted. All that said - the show was nothing great.
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GQ photos aside, not too pleasant a person. My wife was asking "Who the hell does this kid think she is? She walks around like she is entitled to something". Gotta agree. Had to drag my wife kicking to it, even though she is a believer in the coming "apocalpyse/ Meltdown". Like "Terra Nova" I will probably suffer through it to see what happens. But from the start (Minus the boring,irritating 2 kids) it is far ahead of Terra Nova.
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Was about to stop and delete but the fight scene won me over. Will watch next episode to see if it holds my interest
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Sept. 19, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST
Its hard to swallow that Monroe can't find enough semi-automatic weapons lying around to supply his men.
by whatevillurks
Mass graves and a feeling from the characters that death has been their only companion for fifteen years would help as well. The militia seems to be getting around on Hummers since they caught up to the good guys so fast.
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Sept. 19, 2012, 2:37 p.m. CST
I will watch this based on Abrams' impeccable track record:
by SergeantStedenko
What about Brian Six Degrees Undercovers Alcatraz Anatomy of Hope
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Sept. 19, 2012, 2:41 p.m. CST
Okay, I am STILL confused on both the character age and real life age of Tracy DSL! The little girl who played her in the opening scene "15 years earlier" looked AT LEAST to be 3-4 years old, making "Charlie" (ugh, I fucking HATE when shows like this give
by R Howell
And I STILL haven't been able to find out how old she is in real life, because there is NO WAY she is 16.
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Sept. 19, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
theobserver, if she does turn out to be 16, what does DSL stand for?
by SergeantStedenko
Digital Subscriber Line?
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I went to high school with her. She is 30. Her character is 20ish. Do some research before you make weird accusations
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I know it's probably been hashed over, but she's 24, from Winnipeg, and it's safe to fantasize.
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and due to the hotness of Tracy Spiridakos (who was born in 1988), I will watch one more episode. But I'm not giving it much hope to last even a full season.
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I guess some guys like kissing Muddy Mudskipper.
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She has quite a pair of them! Imagine your cock going in and out for hours as she gags on it! At least then she couldn't open her mouth and bore us with her crappy acting!!! Then I'd stick it up her butt!
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15 years without power? Come on. Ridiculous. They should have STARTED the series with the power going out, and then play it out from there - to show the various ways people cope with that problem. It's more interesting to show a society coming apart at the seams than some fully formed post-apocalyptic world that has been done before and better elsewhere.
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The pilots for Lost and Alias were like great movies...This looked like cheap TV from scene one. Moving on.
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My biggest problem (among many) with this show is the boring, one-dimensional premise. All the electricity on Earth goes off and... eyelids lowering... yawn! God, that's fucking boring. Did anyone who actually enjoys science fiction help make this show? I wonder. My other major (MAJOR!!) problem with the show is the fact that if electricity DID actually go out, all life on Earth would die out in, like, five minutes. Because all plant and animal nervous systems run on electricity. As do all animal brains. As does.. well, you get the idea. The entire premise for the show is utterly stupid. At least "Lost" presented a compelling beginning before it descended into silly, ret-conned sludge. Hey JJ... stop with all the half-assed, slickster efforts you've been feeding us as "cool," okay? Enough with this crap. Besides "Star Trek," which was okay, in my opinion, you haven't given us anything truly great since the first two seasons of "Alias." And that's like, a long time ago now. Enough with this braindead, pretend science fiction where even the show's writers don't know why anything's actually happening. Take some time off or something to get your head straight because you're falling and I'm starting to wonder if you'll ever get back up. I hope you will.
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Sept. 22, 2012, 1:23 a.m. CST
Actually, Tracy is 16. She was born in Canada in 1996. It's like Bill Clinton said, "do the math!"
by I Max U Mini
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... http://www.theafronews.ca/2011/07/26/7309/
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A week before the official start of the season, we have the first big debut of fall 2012. It goes to NBC’s Revolution, the network’s first big scripted premiere in quite awhile. JJ Abrams and Eric Kripke’s post-apocalyptic drama opened with a 4.1/11 in adults 18-49 and 11.7 million viewers at 10 PM last night. In 18-49, Revolution was the top drama premiere on NBC in five years, since the ill-fated Bionic Woman in September 2007 (5.7); the top drama debut on any network in three years, since ABC’s V in October 2009 (5.2); and the highest-rated 10 PM premiere in five years, since ABC’s Big Shots in September 2007 (4.5). It eclipsed the debut of NBC’s Smash in the slot last season, which aired on the highly promoted night after the Super Bowl with a bigger lead-in from a Super Bowl-boosted The Voice. This is the highest-rated 10 PM drama telecast on any network in almost three years, since a January 2010 episode of ABC’s Private Practice. The only element of concern in Revolution’s big opening is the 14% drop-off between the first and the second half-hour, but this is an issue a lot of 10 PM shows face.
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Sept. 22, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST
Audience takes an hour to figure out what the show's really like, quits watching.
by Nintendarth
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...why did he have the last bottle of whisky in the world? SURELY they'd still make whisky. They made it before electricity. Or am I missing something?
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First of all, you are all overanalyzing this. No one is really going to be thinking about all these questions you're asking. The show is drama filled and action pact. Me and my family have watched this show since the beginning and we love it. It involves all ages going from teenagers to adults. Does it really matter if they wanted trains and engines to not work? This show can not please everyone for everyone has there own opinions and are entitled to them so just because these newspapers and magazines give it a bad review and you all can not speak for yourselves and say the same things they say does not mean it is a bad show. The acting is good, the setting is good, and the plot is good so watch the show. (:
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