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TIFF '12! Anton Sirius Reviews LOOPER And DREDD 3D!

Looper (2012, directed by Rian Johnson)
If there's one thing we've learned about Rian Johnson over his brief career, it's that he has an impeccable sense of genre. Brick understood when to adhere to the beats of the hard-boiled gumshoe film, and when to use it as a springboard for something new. Brothers Bloom, for all its (in my eyes anyway) faults still knew that the most important thing that a con/heist flick has going for it is charm, and that the inner workings of its plot are much less important than the need for the audience to care whether the heroes make it through to the other side.
Which brings us to his latest project, a gritty piece of time travel madness. A successful time travel movie, above all else, needs to keep one thing straight to work: it can't break its own rules. What those rules actually are isn't terribly important. The rules of time travel in 12 Monkeys are very different than the ones in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, or Back To the Future, or Primer, but in every case the movie establishes its rules and sticks to them. Those films don't cheat.
Looper doesn't cheat. Looper, in fact, moves like a beautiful, intricate piece of clockwork, and in doing so joins 12 Monkeys and Bill & Ted's and Back To the Future and Primer on any reasonable list of the greatest time travel movies ever made.
Here's the plot you've got to wrap your head around: it's 2049, and the world's gone mostly to shit. Joe (played with his usual laid-back aplomb by Joseph Gordon-Levitt) is a 'looper', a mob hitman whose targets are people zapped back from 2079 to be offed, because a) forensic technology in 2079 makes it almost impossible to dispose of a body and get away with murder and b) time travel is a one-way trip backwards, and the world of 2079 is even more in the shitter than 2049 and no one has the cash to use the tech other than the mafia, so forget about some university mounting an historical expedition or any of that nonsense. A looper's job is a pretty easy one. Targets arrive at a designated place and time, hooded and handcuffed, and all the killer has to do is pull a trigger and collect the bars of silver strapped to the target's back as payment. Loopers have a limited shelf life though. At some point, just so their future bosses can neatly tie off any loose ends, a looper will find their hit has a bunch of gold strapped to them instead of silver, and they'll realize that they're just killed their future selves. They keep the gold and retire to the good life... for 30 years.
With a setup like that, it's pretty easy to predict what sets the plot in motion. A target arrives, a bit late, on Joe's landing pad and it turns out to be Joe's future self (Bruce Willis in full-on 'grizzled and not joking the fuck around' mode), only he's not hooded or handcuffed and not in the mood to have a hole blown in his chest. Young Joe hesitates, Old Joe gets the drop on him, and all hell breaks loose.
The thing is though, that's all just setup. Once the plot gets going, once those gears start whirring, Looper is simply a work of art in terms of how beautifully all those gear teeth fit together and how well the whole engine just merrily clicks along to a finale that blindsides you until you realize in retrospect that it was totally inevitable.
What really elevates Looper though, beyond an intricate and entirely satisfying plot, is the attention to detail Johnson brings to bear on the material. Biblical allusions abound. Joe(seph) as the prodigal son, his boss Abe(raham) sacrificing his looper 'children' when called on to do so (Abe, by the way, is played by Jeff Daniels, who knocks it out of the park as a guy who never lets his feelings get in the way of the job), the fact that the loopers are paid in silver... those allusions may be little more than window dressing but they add some nice grace notes to the film. The plot also borrows a lot of familiar elements from other time travel stories, and really classic science fiction in general, but Johnson has fit those elements together seamlessly into a movie that, if not what you could call new, is certainly fresh. Even the design of the world is outstanding. This is not a shiny happy glossy future. The homeless can be shot down in the streets without consequences if they seem at all threatening, and there are a lot of homeless both inside and outside of the cities. Most technology is from their recent past (i.e. our present), desperately jury-rigged to make it more environmentally-friendly (there are a lot of rusted-out cars powered by solar panels stapled to their hoods in Looper). In fact, all the tech seems to have a dirty aesthetic somewhere between steampunk and DIY, contributing to the sense of a society held together by little more shoelaces, chewing gum and a quick soldering job.
Really, there just aren't any glaring weak links here. Emily Blunt is sassy, sexy and pretty much perfect as a single mom caught in the crossfire between the Joes, while Paul Dano and Garret Dillahunt both show up and shine as fellow loopers, doing Dano-ish and Dillahunt-ian things. About the only thing that's a little off is the makeup job they give JGL to make him look like a younger Bruce Willis, but you quickly get used to it.
Looper is, quite simply, an astounding piece of work: a fantastically entertaining film and an airtight, engaging puzzle that lets you think you're one step ahead of it while it remains two steps ahead of you.
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Dredd 3D (2012, directed by Peter Travis)
This is probably the single most faithful comic book adaptation to ever hit the big screen.
Now, let me be clear here: I don't think it's the greatest comic book movie ever made. That title is clearly reserved for either Dark Knight or Scott Pilgrim, or possibly A History of Violence, and there are a bunch of others (X2, for instance) I'd stack above Dredd too, but in terms of being true to its origins nothing adapted so far has come within a mile of Dredd. This film is exactly what a movie based on your old 2000AD issues should be, and I genuinely can't conceive of a Judge Dredd movie ever being any better than this.
The quick and dirty for anyone unfamiliar with the character (and by 'unfamiliar' I mean 'have only seen that abortion of a Stallone movie'): in a future America mostly destroyed by nuclear war, a small part of the Eastern Seaboard is still inhabited, with the people living in one giant metropolitan area called Mega City One. This being a dystopia, the city is a chaotic cesspool of crime and sin, and the law is represented by Judges who have the authority to arrest, try and convict criminals on the spot. The baddest of these badasses is Judge Dredd, which makes sense given his name.
In short, Dredd the character is a fascist wet dream. And what makes Dredd 3D so nearly perfect is that it embraces that idea down to its very core. The film saddles him with a psychic rookie Judge (played by a spunky and steely Olivia Thirly) who's in danger of washing out of the force, and by seeing Dredd through her eyes while he teaches her how to be an 'effective' Judge the movie effortlessly sucks you into its worldview. It quickly becomes very easy to root for Dredd, even though by any rational standard his very existence should be horrific. Dredd, as a character, is a wrong house drug raid that kills your dog and trashes your stuff taken to its logical extreme. Dredd is the living embodiment of the bureaucratic nightmare that's the real villain in Brazil, and yet you cheer for him because he wears cool gear, has an awesome gun and has good tough-guy lines, and because Karl Urban (the man behind the face shield) knows what makes him tick and does a great near-Clint Eastwood impression for Dredd's voice. In fact based on his work here, Urban's now joined my Preacher dream cast as the Saint of Killers.
Plot-wise there's little here you haven't seen before, and recently. Once you get past the setup the movie is essentially a sci-fi version of the Raid, right down to the architecture of the building. But you know what? It doesn't really matter whether this is another case of 'parallel projects intersecting' or whether Alex Garland saw a good idea he could run with. Dredd still feels like its own thing, still feels like it was ripped out of those 2000AD back issues, and that's what matters here. Dredd and the rookie get called in to a megablock to investigate three drug-related murders, the gang in control of the block lock the whole thing down so they can't escape with a prisoner who knows too much, and the two Judges have to fight their way up to escape. Cue the ultraviolence. Lots and lots of ultraviolence.
There's almost nothing bad I can say about this movie. The effects are great, the slo-mo camera work on the drug trips is great (they didn't bring in Antichrist's DoP for nothing), Lena Headey is terrifically vicious as the gang leader, the 3D is effective, Dredd doesn't talk too much and has no romantic interest whatsoever in his cute rookie partner... it gets everything right. My only nitpick is that the aerial establishing shots of Mega City One look too much like modern highways and traffic patterns just cobbled together. That's literally the only thing I found to complain about.
Having said all that... Dredd still isn't a great film. It's just about perfect, but its ambitions are small and limited by that same source material it gets so, so right. I mean, let's be honest here. I like Judge Dredd, but he's not exactly one of the greatest or most complex characters in comics history. But that's fine. No one's going to walk into Dredd expecting an Oscar winner. They're going to walk in expecting a guy to shoot and blow up a fuckload of skeevs and wastoids, and see only the lower half of his face while he does it, that's exactly what they're going to get.
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I thought it was pretty cool, a little bit too much walking slowly through corridors at times though
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Sounds fantastic, I'll definitely be there opening night.
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I pray! With a story adapted straight from the comic! Which won't matter to the masses- unaware of the source material- but would be an utter delight to long time fans. Come on, we all wanna see Judge Death! With a humorous side story featuring the miracle plastic BOING! ;-)
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Really? LOOPER "and" DREDD and damn near perfect? With the exception of: (1) right of the premise, how can LOOPER even exist? If things are shit in 2049, how in the hell does anyone come up with time travel 30 years later, much LESS promote that "only the mafia" has control over it? What, as opposed to the government? Because politicians would never see a good (evil) use for time travel, even with the limits LOOPER imposes on it. (2) the second premise: a hooded figure is sent back with gold to indicate you are killing YOURSELF. I guess nobody thought of the possibility that if you are psycho enough to kill yourself (from the future) that you might be psycho enough to release your future self and go on a planned psychotic rampage (like giving your future self the access necessary to kill.. I don't know.. your boss?) (3) DREDD is perfect.. except for the production design. Really guys? Because we can't design a better fibreglass shell to slap onto the honda motorcycles we call lawmasters. And we can't slap some shit on the vans and school buses, knock out the front windows and change them with something like the front end of the end truck from FORTRESS or even give them a Mobeius/BLADE RUNNER paint job. Hell, even the Lawgiver is small. Now the movie itself may still lift itself OUT of it's production design, but DREDD is in no way perfect by a long shot. Just go to youtube and look up the fan film JUDGE MINTY to see what a micro-budget can produce (the acting and editing are pretty low rate SCY FY, but the "look" is spot-on).
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Been hearing VERY good things about LOOPER and DREDD doesnt sound half bad either... Sounds like a sci-fi double bill waiting to happen, bring it on!!!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST
Cant get over Levitt's face in Looper, it's sickening. He looks like he's had a facelift
by FreeBeer
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST
Love Willis, but they should have gotten someone less iconic. We all remember what Willis looked like as a young man, that's why we can't buy Levitt in the part.
by FreeBeer
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST
Dredd had finished shooting before The Raid even started shooting...
by Stegman84
And was actually written years prior to production. As has been pointed out many, many times now. Just because one film reaches screens before another that doesn't automatically mean that it is the originator, or even that it was made first, as you would think denizens of film geek central might realise. And in fact it has been strongly suggested by people in the know that Gareth Evans of The Raid is known to have seen the Dredd script (they may even have been courting him at one point), and as such had clearly taken, let's be kind and say inpiration, from it for his own film when he made The Raid: Redemption. For some reason AICN's crew keeps repeating the whole Dredd stole The Raid's plot meme though, despite the facts of the matter having been pointed out over and over again, and despite that any research into the subject would soon uncover the fact that no matter how you cut it, Dredd in no way stole from The Raid. Like one film over the other all you want, but can we please kill this idiotic and blatantly untrue Dredd ripped off The Raid meme once and for all? Anyway, personally I'm very much looking forward to both Dredd and Looper. And I sincerely hope that Dredd is a success, as where Garland and co want to go for the proposed second and third Dredd films sound awesome...
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:43 a.m. CST
The anount good word of mouth about Dredd is simply staggering.
by Gabba-UK
Im seeing it tomorrow night. This child hood reader of Tharg's greatest can't really be about to see a near spot on version of Judge Dredd, surely? Life isn't that good.
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A lot of people rushing to criticise the 1995 movie seem to have forgotten (or had no idea in the first place) that the Dredd strip was black comedy first, right-wing satire second, and dystopian prediction a distand third. Judging from the Dredd 2012 trailer, Stallone/De Souza's movie, lame as it was, actually turned out more accurate than Garland's.
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..the Van Dam film kicked ass. Quick editing and choppy cuts. Ahead of Nolan.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST
@monroville - you read my mind about Looper. But if a film obeys its OWN rules, then i guess its okay.
by gk1
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Also loved how the megacity in that movie looked. It's too bad the movie was an overall campy POS. But I really love seeing JGL and Karl Urban headlining movies. I just wish they weren't in the September dumping ground and were actually big releases.
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The 95 movie has the more accurate vision, for all it's shitty content. But this new movie looks to have much to applaud....Marry the tone of new DREDD with the style of the 95 movie and you'd have the perfect match! I hope- with a bigger budget- they go truer to the comics for the sequels...
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would be "Sin City" without a doubt. Which was in fact so faithful they seem to have forgotten they were making a movie, not a slideshow.
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Really looking forward to Looper-it opens in a couple of weeks time in the UK. As for Dredd. Well today was the third time I've seen it and it still holds up. It really is a fantastic achievement and like the reviewer said, as close an adaption of the character as fans could of hoped for. And I intend to see it more times yet, as there are new details I keep spotting. Definitely in the top five of my all time favourite comic book movies!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST
Brick was one of the most pretentiously dreadful films Ive ever seen. Was gonna walk out.
by MainMan2001
That being said I wanna see looper cause looper looks cool
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Shit I must of missed that. Oh hold on, there wasn't any. Not what I'd define as black comedy anyway. Unless, by your definition, you mean Rob Schneider doing his excruciating Saturday Night Live shtick in the 95' movie? There is far more black humour in Dredd 3D believe me.
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Very cheap looking. If you've ever read 2000AD's Judge Dredd (by Wagner/Grant) you'll realize there's more to Judge Dredd's world than the hero walking around grimy corridors and slummy small rooms. Dredd 3D is 1 percent of Judge Dredd's world and the plot is threadbare. Anyone thinking this is proper Judge Dredd - even with a 45 mill budget - is deluding themselves. But hey, I applaud the filmmakers for getting it made. But just don't expect much cos there ain't much in this film but the very basics. A proper Judge Dredd film this ain't!
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Why not send the targets back in time to the bottom of the marianas trench, or the himalayas naked, or from a hole into a plot not dug out yet in the past? No hitmen, no mess?
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No-one said the f word. No-one drove modern cars. The villains weren't hookers. The stories were set across the city, not in just one block. The blocks looked futuristic. None of which applies to Dredd 3D. And there's no such comic book character as DREDD. It's JUDGE DREDD. I doubt Warner Bros will reboot the Batman franchise and name the next film BAT How about someone making a proper JUDGE DREDD FILM, ya know, with an actual PLOT from the comic book? I'm sure someone can find one from 35 years of back story.* (*sarcasm intended)
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It drags like a motherfuck in the middle, but has a crazy kick-ass ending to make up for it. I guess I'll see for myself. I enjoyed Brick, but let's face it, it was Miller's Crossing in high school (and I seriously doubted the director knew most of Miller's Crossing was cribbed from The Glass Key). I really couldn't stand Brothers Bloom. Wasn't half as cute or clever as it thought it was.
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<TROLLFACE>
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It one of the best looking, shot, edited films I've seen in a long time, and considering the budget, its a small miracle it looks as good as it does. I don't know what TV Movies your watching, but at least name a few in your comparison. Maybe you seen it in a shitty theatre or bugged it wasn't the Judge Dredd film you want (I loved it) I seen on a big ass screen digitally and in 3D and the Slo Mo sequences alone where jaw dropping.....
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f7^king enter button...Anyway, if dredd is as good as I hear, we need to see judge Death, and the only man on the planet to play him is Doug Jones. the thought of what he could do with the character...my god...
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Dark violent SciFi at its best. Sets up the world perfectly.
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Fuck off Scott.
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In the future it's easier to disrupt the space time fabric of the universe and send someone to the past than to secretly dispose of a dead body (ie. Bag of meat and mostly water)?
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No really.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA. Way to invalidate your opinion out of the gate there pal. Scott Pilgrim is an interesting cult movie in the same vein as a Rocky Horror or Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.. but nobody confuses any of those movies with being the greatest movies in their respective genres except for someone who has lost all critical perspective in pursuit of the mighty hyperbole.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST
DREDD was in production while the Raid was still in development.
by DickBallsworth
Please give credit where credit is due.
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1) I haven't looked into The Raid/Dredd's production histories because I didn't care whether one ripped the other off or not. They both work, which is all that matters to me. 2) Scott Pilgrim is a work of genius. Also I forgot American Splendor on the list. 3) Trust me, there is nothing spoilery about that Looper review.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST
How can Dredd be derivative of "The Raid" when Dredd was doing the mega block thing thirty years ago?
by Smerdyakov
Does movie time not equate with Comic Book time?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST
Dredd's a very good film. Let's see Robohunter or Ace Garp films now.
by dalcross
Sam Slade's the name. That's S-L-A-Y-E-D to you.
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Opinion and hyperbole aren't the same thing... I happen to agree that Scott Pilgrim is one of the best comic book to movie adaptations out there. I also think rocky horror picture show is one of the best in the... cross-dressing genre?
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My review here http://www.playmountain.net/featured/dredd/
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Dredd's script - Peach Trees - was available online over two years ago. Evans, the writer and director of The Raid has admitted seeing it. The Dredd movie was in actual production before Evans even finished writing The Raid and funnily enough that's the frigging reason theyre similar, because he stole whole fucking scenes and general concept for a low budget foreign film he evidently thought not too many westerners would see when he fucking did it. Garland is NOT ripping off Evans film for fucks sake, it was the other way around and Evans only beat Garland to the screen in timing due to the quick turnaround of Evans filming abroad and the time Dredd has sat in post production. If you're going to fucking use an accusation of one film ripping off another then at least get your fucking facts straight first.
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as I was born with 3 thumbs.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST
ive read a lot of positive reviews about looper but i cant get past jgl and willis being the same guy.
by undead_uncle_ben
already a distraction before ive even seen it.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST
I've heard enough about both films that I think I'll actually go see them.
by AlienFanatic
Excellent reviews. Very worthy.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST
SIRIOUS .....if you didn't look into the production history of both films...
by Hint_of_Smegma
.....then maybe you shouldn't have suggested that Dredd copied The Raid as you did in your fucking review. If you have no fucking idea who copied who, then why make the bloody suggestion that it was one party in particular, which is what you did. Suggest an edit rather than some weak explanation that doesn't excuse you at all.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 5:55 p.m. CST
It doesn't matter how many times we point out the facts, the AICN crew seem determined to say the opposite in each review that gets posted...
by Stegman84
It would be nice if the wider geek community would at least wake up to the fact that Dredd was ripped off by Evans' The Raid, and not the other way around though. Otherwise Dredd is always going to be damned for an offence that was actually committed against it. And that shit just aint right.
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Especially in and around Detroit. It's gotten so bad there...only a fool ventures into some of the neighborhoods any more.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:06 p.m. CST
Stegman. Fully agreed. Sirius, you should edit your review.
by Hint_of_Smegma
If you honestly didn't look into the productions and which came first, then it makes it ridiculous for you to use that as a defense when you've suggested Garland was the one doing the plagiarising. You're doing a film you gave an otherwise good review to a great disservice by suggesting it, and considering you're a writer for a film geek website it might not be a bad idea if before you did write up a movie and suggest something like that, that you actually looked into whether that was the case or not.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:07 p.m. CST
Someone above obviously hasn't heard of the Constitution.
by Gary Makin
Like Obama.
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I like your Dredd review but it's clear from it that you haven't actually read much Judge Dredd. The only reason why it doesn't have more ambition is due to budget restrictions, simple as. Dredd is one of the most complex characters in comic books, if you'd read it over the past 3 decades you'd know that. He ages in real-time and has been fleshed-out into a full 3 dimensional character in a way that comic characters like Superman, batman or Spiderman have failed to do as their stories just get re-hashed and re-told every few years or so. Mega City One is also the most expansive environment in comics for stories, you'd know that too if you'd read more Dredd.
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Don't stop. Don't ever stop!
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The whole system will crash cause the government can't take care of everyone.
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Especially disconcerting due to the director having done a couple episodes of Breaking Bad, which had a pretty grim but clever way of disposing of bodies. So yeah, disposing of bodies is impossible but time travel is no big deal, only the mafia can find a use for it? Hell, if the future is so bad, wouldn't you have people both rich and poor trying to get inside a time machine and be thrown back to a more pleasant era? Also, if the government has such problems and are shooting people in the streets wily nilly in this dystopian future, why such a fuss to go to such lengths just to dispose of bodies from mob hits?
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WTF??
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:59 p.m. CST
But If Dredd is so good, put these guys on a Punisher movie
by chien_sale
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That being said. Looper was in my top 3 most anticipated movies of the year, and I can't wait to see it. As for Dredd...the movie looks awesome and I look forward to it as well.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:46 p.m. CST
Urban's now joined my Preacher dream cast as the Saint of Killers.
by PatientZer0
YOU ARE A FUCKING GENIUS.
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WORD
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Sept. 9, 2012, 1:20 a.m. CST
batfunk -- yes, we're retarded, stop making fun of us with your witty britty logic
by lv_426
Transformers, Bayhem, football, tits, applesauce, and freedom fries!!!!!!! WHOOOOOO!!!!!!! UH-MERICA!!!!!!!!!
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Hah After repeated announcements over on IMDB that you would NEVER see Dredd because it disgusted you so much. You really are a cunt Scott
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Sept. 9, 2012, 4:03 a.m. CST
Dredd is very good. yes, it's low budget, but that's the price you pay to do it right.
by Fortunesfool
http://fortunesfool73.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/dredd-3d.html
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Clancy Brown That is all
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Sept. 9, 2012, 5:52 a.m. CST
Ok, so Alex Garland and the producers ripped off Indonesian Action film The Raid.
by lcworld
Right down to the architecture of the building. Low budget Indonesian film has a tough time already and is being ripped off.
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Alex Garland must have jumped forward in time to rip-off the Raid them jump back to write his own DREDD script because the facts all say DREDD was written and filmed before the Raid even started shooting. The script for DREDD was written around 2007/2008 and leaked online in 2010 before the Raid.
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There is nothing limiting about the judge dredd comics...
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Went in expecting nothing, turned out to be excellent. Almost like a great 80s genre flick a la John Carpenter. Great stuff. Hopefully somebody stateside will go and see it so we can get a sequel from the same team.
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Seeing it in 4 hrs and really looking forward to even more now.
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Fucking keyboard Anyway Dredd rules,enjoyed it way more than Dark Knight Rises. ''COOLFAN123' your trolling is getting real old now you bitter fuck.You need fucking help.
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You will love it ;)
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Can't wait.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST
Emily Blunt is sassy, sexy and pretty much perfect as a single mom.
by HollywoodHellraiser
As much as I like Emily Blunt, unnecessary characters like this is what kills parts of movies for me. You know there going to be a scene where A)Willis/Jospeh character is going to talk with Emily's kid and it changes them some how. Or B)Emily character is going to be tough for the sake of her kid and get the drop on Joseph/Willis character. Either way she'll most likely outsmart the killers and experience hitmen with "single mom-fu". Guarantee one of those scene is in the movie. I'll be surprise if it not. Anyways, Looper does sound intriguing and been on my radar for awhile. I hope its good.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST
I sentence you to deeeeeeeeeeeaaathh!!! Bring on the dark judgment
by UltraTron
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
Dredd was great - its dark ,gritty, violent and true to the spirit of the comic. Very zarjaz.
by Father
I really hope it does well at the box office, because if this modestly budgeted movie is anything to go by,then bigger budgeted sequels featuring bad guys like judge death and the angel family would be mindblowing.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST
God, politics. @Batfunk There IS NO SUCH THING as "free healthcare" Only that the costs are shared across more people
by AlienFanatic
In other words, the sick live off the well and costs are no longer tied to means but continue to escalate. Nothing in life is free, and hiding it behind massive government programs doesn't make your fantasies a reality, or haven't you notice that Europeans pay more for almost EVERYTHING than Americans do? God, that mindset is so far removed from economic reality we may as well be using Monopoly money.
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1. Its the opposite of Stallone Judge Dredd. (Punisher War Zone vs. Thomas Jane Punisher) 2. Looks like the helmet will stay on, hopefully throughout the movie. 3. NO FUCKING ROB SCHNEIDER!!!!!!! What the hell were they thinking?!?!
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They lost the best ending the film could have by ignoring the comic's ending. Throw in your standard Cronenberg "art porn" and a jokey William Hurt and it's nowhere near the film it could have been. The comic is amazing- also by John Wagner, Dredd's creator. The end is a punch in the guts not old "Comedy Willie" at the end.
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And is indeed badass.Want a replica on my shelf ASAP!
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Could never get around Stallone showing his mug but I understand it is Sly so thats that! and NO Rob fucking Schneider is a good thing!
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I've just returned from seeing it and it does indeed deserve all the praise it's receiving. In my opinion, it's the best comicbook adaptation this year. I haven't seen The Avengers, but I have seen The Amazing Spider-Man, The Dark Knight Rises and Men In Black 3.# Dredd is far superior and the Slo-Mo effects are fucking fantastic in 3D. I think it's great that, for once, somebody has tried something different with the medium and the pay-off is superb. Also, Urban, Thirlby and the ever-reliable Lena Headey carry their roles well and the violence is probably the best in a sci-fi since Robocop. All-in-all, I can't recommend Dredd enough. I hope enough Americans get off their arses and go and watch it. We need a sequel.
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I loved all the little Easter Eggs for long-time readers of 2000A.D.
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The lawmasters in DREDD are real motorbikes, unlike TRON. The lawmaster in 2000ad would be impossible to turn, there is a distinct difference between real world physics and ink and paper physics. Dredd's premise was to ground it in the real world hence the practical design
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shouldn't that be Umpty Candy for long-time readers of 2000AD
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Umpty....
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Well played, sir.
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Plagarism was the other way around...
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I have some issues with some of the design choices, but understand them from a budgetary point of view. The storyline is OK, it's like a fairly unremarkable 2 issue Dredd story, but it's a pretty good introduction, and a better choice that trying to do an epic story on a low budget. I just hope it makes enough money to merit a sequel with a bigger budget that can look at wider aspects of Dredd's world.
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Yeah, the little treats for long term readers were great.... Chopper graffiti, Kenny Who, Sternhammer Block, etc..
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Anyone thinking this is proper Judge Dredd - even with a 45 mill budget - is deluding themselves.
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Just seen it. Helmet says on, violence is wanton and almost beautiful to watch. Loads of Easter eggs for the 2000AD faithful. Olivia Thirlby is insanely hot in the judge gear, maybe needed longer blond hair to be faithful to the comic. Urban fucking nails it with a 6 inch nail and a sledgehammer. Everyone in the US with even a slight love of comics needs to see this so the deserved sequels gets the budget to be able to pull off the Necropolis story arc. That would be amazing to see. And to those who say this isn't Dredd..... which comic were you reading that's its precisely the Dredd I read and grew up with!! Top film! Get your ass' to the multiplex on the 21st you perps, or it's the iso-cubes for 5 years for you. The sentence is having no taste.
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So the following (to name a few) are all deluded? Rebellion who own 2000ad, John Wagner who created Dredd, Jock Dredd artist, PJHolden Dredd Artist, Andy Diggle 2000ad writer, Si Spurrier 2000ad writer, Henry Flint Dredd Artist (who also has a block in the film named after him) Simon Fraser ditto to the above unlike your subjective opinion
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There was also a Fatty sat eating cereal. Lots of little nods thrown in. There was even the little nod to Robocop.
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Yeah, the Yanks really need to see this. They'll love it.
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Anderson had shorter hair when she was drawn by Brett Ewins in the 1980's. Also, the helmet looked rather similar to Ewins' design; he drew it as large and bulky, to give the impression that it was armoured underneath. However, long hair or short, Thirlby was a great Anderson.
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...I don't know what this fucking site did with the rest of my post, but that portion of it was in quotation marks, and was a quote from coolfan123's post. I was stating exactly what you are, that the people in the know (myself included) love the film. This site is clearly fucked and needs some drastic attention, as well as an edit facility.
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As well as the cereal eating Fatty I'm pretty sure that the first victim gunned down by the perp from the van in the film opening had a belly wheel on the ground next to him.......
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Then apologies my friend, you are a man of taste. And I apply the said same statements to coolfan123
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Indeed there was a belly wheel lying next to the corpulent corpse
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Sept. 9, 2012, 4:21 p.m. CST
Saw Dredd today. It's the most fun I've had with a comic book adaption all year.
by batfunk
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I thoght that was a Fatty that got killed in that scene but I wasn't too sure so I didn't mention it. At least you and maneatingfish were more eagle-eyed than myself. I'll pay more attention when I see it again on Wednesday.
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It's definitely one of the best and most faithful comic book adaptations out there. No dumb love interest or character arcs. A really solid script. Uncompromising in it's portrayal of violence and a society turning to shit. I must admit I had some doubts about Urban's look from publicity stills... But he pulls it off, the chin fits, some shots are really iconic and straight out of the comic book. My only complaint is perhaps with the Lawmaster design. Also the soundtrack at points veers towards a dated Matrix feel (looped breaks with metal guitars). If you get the chance listen to the recently released "Drokk" soundtrack... you'll probably figure out from the track listing what it is. I hope the sequels go ahead as long as a bigger budget doesn't replace the quality of script.
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Considering Dredd was written and started production before The Raid, it's more likely just a coincidence that the two films are similar in premise... and The Raid won out because it was able to be released first and it's the most un-Hollywood of the two.
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by allowing old Biff to return to the same version of the future that he left after he has already changed the past with the Almanac.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:54 p.m. CST
Emily Blunt is an insurance policy that Jeff Daniels has because of what happens in Looper
by Russell
that's the major twist in the movie and what she does is unbelievable. This does not really spoil anything.
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When old griff gets to the future, he almost immediately fades out of existence. Even though that scene doesn't make it to the final film, aside from that, Marty and Doc also being timetravelers already in that timeline. They have short term immunity to a changed timestream. They remember the original timeline, and Marty has several weeks in 1985 to set things right before he fades out of existence. BttF allows timetravelers a little leeway to correct the course of history before wiping them out, it's pretty consistent on that. (And why it allows fluctuations like photos from the future fading in the past and such.) It is very consistent in that Marty and Doc never interact with their past selves in any way the past selves are aware of hat would slow down or mess up the path that got them to where they were.
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I have seen that deleted scene but I never really considered that the same kind of thing happened in the first BttF - you've opened my eyes on that one and now I can enjoy the film a little more (I already love all of them but a little extra love won't hurt).
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Twelve Monkeys - excellent; tenseless single timeline with loops The Terminator - excellent; also single timeline T2 - different rule set from The Terminator (branching timelines); incompatible with it. J J Star Trek - perfectly fine branching model, although Trek in general is inconsistent and uses at least three incompatible models at different times (single timeline with loops, branching timelines, rewritable timelines). Actually, one potential problem with JJ Trek is why there is only one new branch generated with the Romulans and Spock in it, instead of the Romulans and Spock each creating new separate branches. Back To The Future - inconsistent; again, uses at least three different models. It absolutely does cheat, but, hey, it's a comedy. Bill and Ted's - seems consistent; seemingly a single timeline model Donnie Darko - total mess Timecop - rewritable; bit of a mess (most rewritable timeline stories are) Primer - may be consistent; brutally hard to analyze
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Sept. 10, 2012, 3:33 a.m. CST
It's what genre movies look like when you don't have a studio dumbing everything down for mall dwelling morons.
by Fortunesfool
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But, the production design sucks. It needed more Blade Runner and less Mad Maxx. Also, I hope people get used to 4 more years of Obama because not only is he starting to pull away in the polls, but the one advantage Romney had - fundraising - is also toast. Just announced hat Obama out raised Romney in August. So all the folks hoping Romney could just blow Obama away with bullshit TV ads are going to be sorely disappointed. I suggest the Koch brothers find a nice tropical island with no extradition treaty with the United States to live on.
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If 'Loopers' are all eventually killed off in the future by sending them to be dispatched by their past selves ... ... why not send them to a different Looper instead of their past selves who might understandably be reluctant to commit virtual suicide? Or can only one Looper be employed at a time?
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Definately worth it. It actually works better than it is and not like a bladerunner clone. Just been confirmed no1 in the uk box office too!
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Sept. 10, 2012, 6:40 a.m. CST
Ok there's a belly wheel in the movie. I'm now completely onboard. I know all of you want belly wheels too.
by UltraTron
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...in what was basically a bilingual puff piece for 'Dredd,' complete with a badge pin for one of the co-hosts. The only truly memorable bits were Karl saying that the film was "a day in the life of Judge Dredd," which just about everybody who has seen the film has said thus far, and the following line: "Dredd is like Batman, only without the Bruce Wayne."
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...sequels ahoy!
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Sept. 10, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST
greatest comic book movie ever made. That title is clearly reserved for either Dark Knight or Scott Pilgrim,
by knowthyself
SCOTT PILGRIM? Are you fucking high?
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http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/08/pl_motor_jafm/
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Sept. 10, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST
Sin City was the single most faithful adaptation.. It was near literal translation of 3 story arcs...
by darthSaul666
That being said I'll check out Dredd..
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Want to see the new flick... Looper looks good too... American's can't do free healthcare because we are too large and our government has proven to be too wasteful and stupid with tax money. You can make it cheap, but FREE is childish and unrealistic at this point. Besides, I'm not using my tax money to give the rotten, stupid smokers healthcare to treat their lung diseases, teeth problems and bad diets due to their lousy life choices.
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Entertainment Film Distributors have announced that Dredd 3D is the UK’s box office number 1 having taken over a million pounds on its opening weekend beating the competition including Anna Karenina, Lawless and Total Recall. More significantly, it is also the first 18 certificate film to be number 1 since 2010!
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and we all have had the misfortune of observing for two hours. Obnoxious as fuck does not even come close to describe that shitheap.
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FUCK RIGHT OFF.
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I'm really pleased that Dredd is Number One at the U.K. Box Office! It's better than I'd hoped! I'll add more to it's success when I go and rewatch it on Wednesday and Sunday. Because it's that fucking good. Also: Dredd overrated? I certainly don't think so. Zodlvesmaude knows fuck all.
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Thereby cementing its position as lake of awesome sauce. if the Daily Fail hates something it's very, very good. The other way round? It's to be avoided like a rabid dog.
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Sept. 11, 2012, 4:24 a.m. CST
From James Cameron, director of ALIENS, T2 and AVATAR
by Motoko Kusanagi
Comes the next-gen eyeballfucker: AVATAR 2. Summer 2014. Nothing else matters.
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...so dissapointed. Loved the rest on the movie. They have to make a sequel and get them right. Loved the little nod to Chopper. I wanna see Supersurf contests!!
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Oct. 6, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST
DREDD 3D rocked my balls off and exceeded expectations. LOOPER tickled my balls slightly and pretty much met my expectations (i.e. I knew it was overrated)
by Autodidact
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