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TrekMovie says they've confirmed the title STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS!
Hey folks, Harry here... there's a chance that this could simply become undone, if a change of mind occurs, but TrekMovie is claiming that the title for the second JJ Abrams Star Trek film will be STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS. Now they say they've confirmed this with multiple sources and I have no doubt of that. But we've seen domain names registered and those titles not end up on the final film. But I'm inclined to trust their story. NOW - do we like it? Some reason, it makes me think that the Daleks are removing all the stars and .... No, sorry... wrong universe. So what do you think "Into Darkness" means, beyond the obvious darkening tones it seems to indicate. Does this mean they'll beam down to a fantasy planey with Tom Cruise and Tim Curry? What does it mean?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:17 a.m. CST
That means that since they aimed Star Wars for 1 they aim Empire Strikes Back for 2
by BEHEM Pascal
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It worked for Nemesis!
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... sort of how Dark of the Moon didn't sit well as a Tranformers title. I think I had enough darkness in Star Trek with Nemesis, I was liking the more comedic and light hearted approach with JJ Abrams' Trek. I'm going to take this as a working title for now.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST
without a : it sounds too much like a weird Wheel of Fortune Scramble.....
by john
or whatever they are called when the answer is "Of Mice and Men in Black" or something like that
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:26 a.m. CST
Sounds like the prospect of this franchise and any imaginitive Sci-Fi under the tent of Abrams-Orc-Kurtzman.
by justmyluck
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:34 a.m. CST
Wait.... Did Harry just make an actual referencce to a Nu-Who episode?
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS
I thought you hadn't watched that show, big guy?
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...it's attached to the most boring prepositional phrase since "of the Fallen."
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Attack of the Clones has to be an all time worst for horrible titles. This one makes a valient effort to be awful as well, but I just dont care anymore. Call the movie whatever your gonna call it, slap hands with your lame brained marketing exec, and focus on the final product. If the movie is good, people will forgive and shitty titles kind of fade away with time anyway. People will make start calling it Star Trek ITD and we will all be happy again.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:53 a.m. CST
DARKNESS = MORE LENS FLARES = more freemasonry mysterybox temple of king solomon garbage. HOLLY-DUMB-DOWN-THE-POPULATION-WOOD by Jar Jar Abrams.
by Darth_Kong
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Its the Star Trek title we deserve, but not the one we need right now!
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That is has some correlation to Joseph Conrad's "Heart o Darkness." There will probably be borrowed themes at work. My hope is that, if my theory is correct, Benedict Cumberbatch will, indeed, be a rogue Starfleet officer rather than a posh, pasty-white, British Khan.
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is the aging over time and devloping of a wonderfully natural rapport between the cast, coupled with the key fact that most were warm interesting characters. This lead to even during shit episodes it was still enjoyable to watch the characters interact and be themselves. Its not just limited time these new guys have - their characters are written quite shallow, limited and purely functional to serving a plot (they do well with what they are given though) <p> Id want to have a drink with the likes of Picard, Mccoy, original Scotty, Geordi, Kirk...As fun and trashy as the new film is this cast will probably do one more to round out a trilogy then jump ship because their luvvy sensibilities 'wont want to be typecast as Trekkies'
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its always cool when they make that connection like oooh the darkness oooh dark knight rises good luck with your movie there
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Perhaps the movie will involve slutty Uhura spreading some nasty space crabs around the ship and only Anton Yelchin can pinpoint-beam them off your body
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Star Trek: Into Darkness <p> Star Trek - Into Darkness <p> But I don't actually care since I have no plan to see it until I can do so for free.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:03 a.m. CST
Why would a movie with the word INTO in the title be known as STD?
by Jaka
I mean, seriously, is that the maturity level around here. It would be STID, unless you're just going to walk around, dragging your arms, talking about it like a monosyllabic neanderthal. <p> Star Trek. Darkness. Ergh.
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Sexually Transmitted Independent School District
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST
Captain Kirk And The Star Tr2k: Star Trekkier Part 1
by Inexplicable_Nuclear_Balls
Might as well cram in as many sequel cliches as possible.
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had to be done
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i've been buying Trek books. Already have 2 or 3 fiction books written (sic) by Shatner, the old Gerrold's (natch), ST 360, two new books on the show, ST FAQ and A Brief Guide to ST, 3 by Peter David (PAD), one being a hardback with the first 4 New Frontier stories (sweet) and two Kahn's By Greg Cox. Oh, and a bunch of St graphic novel collections by IDW. Toying with getting the weird old Gold Key collections. Anyone know if the big Omnibus fiction books are any good?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:30 a.m. CST
The subtext of the title is that they're treking into the darkness. Of unknown space. Or something.
by Al
Anyway, Kkkaaaahhhhnnnnn!!!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:32 a.m. CST
Never been a fan of throwing "Star trek" into a complete sentence. It just works better on it's own. Plus, it sounds more like a TV episode title.
by Mark Jones
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Star Trek To The Shops Star Trek Over There A Bit Star Trek Until It Falls Off Star Trek To The Kitchen And Make Me Some Pie
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:43 a.m. CST
STAR TREK : The darker the subject matter, the more you need the lens flares.
by justmyluck
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STAR TREK - Into Darkness = Sounds Awful.
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I mean....it pretty much wrote itself...
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In This is Spinal Tap when he says 'Tap into America'
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call it trek, give all the characters the same names...but take away the philosophy of the original...and its nothing more than just another space opera today is the 43rd anniversary of trek...way to spit on the celebration
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Please stop it; I'm gonna bust a gut. Remember in that movie? There was lens flare? ha HA! Never gets old! EVER!
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Or maybe they'll only be BRIGHTER, because everything's so DAAARRRKKK!!
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LOL! Lens flare! You are cracking my shit up!
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Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not the Law. Wait a minute, I AM THE LAW!
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Spock gets frozen in carbonite, Kirk loses a hand and Uhura kisses her brother.
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We gonna Star Trek into Darkness!! <BR>YEAH YEAH! <BR>We gonna Star Trek into DARKNESS!! <BR>BAYYYYY-BEE! <BR>Star Trek into DARKNESS!! <BR>*WAAAOOW!! <BR>(guitar solo)
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:26 a.m. CST
So yeah, like Star Trek's totally into darkness now.
by animatronicmojo
woah... <BR>*toooooooooak*
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Just like the total recall remake. Didn't see it, but the trailer was full of that shit. Lens flare was cool like in Close Encounters, but Why the hell would you do it on purpose. Fuck you JJ. I liked your movie, but never watch it on cable, because of your shitty flares. Never will own your shitty movie. Lay off of it, Bitch.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:37 a.m. CST
So... Serious question. How much of this site's news is it's own? I get news faster and more of it by just visiting IMDB's front page.
by happybunni
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:37 a.m. CST
It was like you hired a guy to just randomnly shine a fuckin flashlight at me every few seconds. WTF
by Nichole
Hey watch my movie! If you can. Most annoying film ever. Liked the story, visuals, cast..........AAAGGGHH. Get that flashlight out of my face Asshole!
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They might has well have gone for STAR TREK IS EDGY or STAR TREK IS MODERN NOW.
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would have been less shitty, and that's petty shitty.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST
Here is a funny link from the Cinema Snob about the lens flares in the Total recall remake.
by Nichole
http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/midnight-screening-total-recall-6290443
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Seriously, if you think Maggie Gyllenhall is fugly, you're all bent. All of you.
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They definitely haven't seen Secretary. She is smokin' hot in that film.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 5:01 a.m. CST
New SKYFALL trailer : http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/skyfall/
by justmyluck
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This can't be the actual title. Fuggin' seriously.
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JJ used it, because he wanted to make a future that "the cameras can barely contain, a future that is too bright" You can't record the future fully, just like a guy transported here from the 1800 would be overwhelmed by what he sees. I'm not saying it worked, but it was an artistic choice.
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cause that would be fucking awesome!
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I'm sure there's a lens flare and a camera man with severe alcohol withdrawal in there as well. I won't be sucked in with this Hollywood shit a second time!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 5:24 a.m. CST
He had a lens flare frenzy in SUPER-8, which was supposedly RETRO. I guess the past was too bright to contain, or WHATEVER.
by justmyluck
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Sept. 8, 2012, 5:25 a.m. CST
@lemming I like yours WAY better! Let's go with lemming's!
by tangcameo
Of course now I have the song stuck in my head. The Fiona Apple version.
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Even JJ Admitted he went a little overboard. I can understand an artistic choice, but he even admits it failed. I just hope he has learned, but didn't Super 8 Have a bunch of it? I haven't seen it.
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"Star Trekking Into Darkness", or, "Star Trek In 2 Darkness". It'll probably change in time. Maybe if they revert to the old eighties Marquee: "Star Trek Part II: Into The Darkness". Loved what Abrams did with the series - Although the thought of, Benedict Cucumberpatch playing a villain, doesn't seem that appealing at all.
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Thanks, won't be seeing that one either.
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LENS FLAAAAAAAAAAAAARRREEE!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 5:44 a.m. CST
Could it have to do with more time travel and alternate histories
by tangcameo
Darkness (plus Abrams usual themes) reminds me of that moment at the Guardian of Forever just after Bones steps through and they try to make contact with the ship but space travel has been wiped out by Bones little time travel trip (plus could it have been the start of the mirror universe?).
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Spock fixes the rainbow bridge and starts dating his older self. It's dark in there.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 5:53 a.m. CST
The title, “Attack of the Clones” is no worse than “The Empire Strikes Back”.
by MarAlaTho
You jaded 40-something haters need some perspective or maybe a large brandy.
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The Star Trek Rises
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If anything- Attack of the Clones sounds Bad-Ass. Worst movie title ever...... Nightmare on Elm St. 6: Freddy's Dead Who the fuck wants to see that?
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It doesn't roll off the toungue right. It should be called "Star Trek: Into THE Darkness"
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Since a Stormtrooper says that, are you Han or Luke? I can't frikin remember? I may have had a couple Pabsts. SHHHHHHH, don't tell anyone.
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Any of you morons read? How about a reference to Heart of Darkness? Shatner is fat enough to do Kurtz and no hair piece.
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Star Trek of the Penguins?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:01 a.m. CST
They've been trying to make these dark ever since First Contact...
by Laughing Boy
... which was the only one that pulled it off. I won't count Abrams' first film as that's not a Star Trek movie, despite being set in outer space and weirdly sharing its characters' names with Star Trek.
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It was Han, some imperial officer says it on Endor, in the movie that goes three for three in showing Leia to have the best blaster ERA in the universe. When she gets a blaster, Shit starts getting fucked up, yo.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:07 a.m. CST
Whatever you do, don't clench up.... it only makes it hurt more...
by James Robinson
>_< Just sayin'
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Boldly cashing in where everyone has gone before....
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Short and simple.
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a teaser trailer is right around the corner! And by the way, Star Trek: Generations is better than most people give it credit for (IMO).
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:13 a.m. CST
TDKR was a hard title to accept at first, but it eventually took...
by BoyNamedSue
I kind of like "Trek" as a verb in the title. It's creative and never been done before. Now I'm starting to think some "Heart of Darkness" "Apocalypse Now" business:)
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Come on Harry.... it's only the biggest, boldest and most fantastic Sci-fi series of all time... tell us more about your introduction to it! Are you up to speed with it? Did you start with Eccleston, Tennant or Smith?? Or earlier?????
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and Doctor Who isnt sci fi then the original series of Star Trek is a western, and the first Star Wars film is a western, and the new Star Trek film was an action movie.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:51 a.m. CST
If Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who are not Sci-Fi, then the genre..
by Seph_J
...is still waiting for it's first entry!! How exciting! I wonder what the first Sci-fi series of all time will be!!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:55 a.m. CST
You're All Astronauts On Some Kind Of Star Trek
by Inexplicable_Nuclear_Balls
See what I did there.
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Damn, I must have missed that.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:16 a.m. CST
Yeah so the doctor who episode where they eventually discover that a medical ship crashed in the past and the nanite med-bots tried to fix the damaged people and ended up
by UltraTron
turning them into fucked up pink Floyd the wall looking shit- that wasn't sci-fi? Or the episode where.. Oh hey wait a minute. Dr. Who IS sci-fi. Gosh what was I thinking. Oh no hey wait a minute I remember now. I'm not a fucking moron so I already knew that.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST
I'd stamp out a dwarf for a scene with the kirk/Spock stick combat music. Theme all polished and amped up.
by UltraTron
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...longest running sci-fi series of all time.
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You are confusing the 2-parter story 'The Empty Child' & 'The Doctor Dances' with 'The Girl in the Fireplace', I believe. <p> you're welcome
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:25 a.m. CST
But yeah didn't I say that? They tried to put em back together but didn't have the whole picture of what they were supposed to be so they ended up pink Floyd heads.
by UltraTron
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I get the impression that to even begin to discuss individual episodes of Doctor Who with you, I am going to have to first recap the entire story of each episode to you first. Tiresome.
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The Empty Child & The Doctor Dances or The Girl in the Fireplace?
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That bugs my inner Grammar Nazi most, TBH. Maybe it's an accidental absence at this point, but if not...I kind of want to smack someone over it. Without it, the title just comes off as unnecessarily hip or deliberately "Yeah, look at us, we're all dark and stuff." (And if Abrams and his goddamn lens flares are still in full effect in this movie...does that count as irony?)
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST
Love the Sherlock Downey Jr. character but in another universe it was a series of doctor who movies instead.
by UltraTron
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Can't say I'm a fan of this title
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:43 a.m. CST
All this should be building up to marvel vs startrek and then marvel zombies vs zombie startrek
by UltraTron
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:43 a.m. CST
Zombie Kirk and Spock. Tell me mr owl. Has this ever been done?
by UltraTron
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST
In actuality, 2001 is indeed a series. There's two movies and 4 books.
by albert comin
Movies are "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "2010: The Year We Made Contact", and the books are "2001: A Space Odyssey", "2010: Odyssey Two", "2061: Odyssey Three" and "300: The Final Odyssey1". I don't think i'm forgetting any. You're welcome.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST
If there hasn't then get on that. I will not rest until everything is zombie'd
by UltraTron
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST
It's like disney making another dumbo attraction. Nobody even knows what dumbo is anymore. You have to attach themes to current properties to maximize their potential. Mix trek with marvel and you breath life into trek for several more generations. It can
by UltraTron
then split off from marvel again after a couple movies and it will live with new fire and fury in the minds of the public.
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And I steadfastly oppose using trek as a verb in this context. It's too TREK INTO SAVINGS for me. BY GRABTHAR'S HAMMER I NOW WILL TREK INTO DARKNESS. Fuck that shit.
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It sets itself apart from the previous titles. Its progression instead of a retread. Clever, and they can play with it in future movies.
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Q: "What was the message of that episode (The Girl in the Fireplace)? What was the theme that it explored? What was the commentary? What was the allegory? What did we the viewers, learn from an episode where nanites repair a ship using human organs?" <p> <p> A: There were no nanites in the episode. There were, however, a number of messages in the episode. The main impact however came from the emotional thread of the Doctor appearing at later and later stages in Renette's life. You could read into the dangers of technology (time travel) affecting the natural course of life, and how advancements like that could lead to very unnatural situations (stem cell research is an example of powerful science 'interfering' in nature). Or you can read into the fact that she dies of tuberculosis in 1764 - and surely, had the Doctor known this, he could have prevented it? SHOULD he have prevented it? A big, moral question, which the show has dealt with on a number of occasions. The dangers of artificial intelligence are explored. If you give a spaceship sentience but not ethics, then it will simply follow logic and repair itself with whatever it can, regardless of the loss of human life (in this case, the crew). There are certainly other 'commentaries' and 'allegories' in the story - but the best thing about it, was by far the quality and intelligence of the writing - (playing with history AND time travel - exactly what the show was designed for in 1963) and the emotion of the script. Particularly for a character like the Doctor, which up until that point had not really had much to do with romance. <p> <p> I wish that Doctortom - a better man than me - were here to explain.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:55 a.m. CST
I call on you all to reject all titles that play on the multiple lexical categories for the word Trek
by FluffyUnbound
We must stop this now or puns will follow. Puns. Do you seriously want to take a chance that these motherfuckers will one day escalate to puns?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:57 a.m. CST
star trek to spock in charge of thousands of lives decides to go pout and give up command in the face of eminent danger and let punk stowaway criminal kirk have the ship
by vulturess
after spock already tried to murder kirk by abandoning him on an ice planet. star trek into star fleet throws the book @ spock and puts him in jail. or better- star trek into kirk prime shows up and puts spocks ass back on genesis.
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The colons in the titles are actually of importance, and apparently, Generations is actually called 'Star Trek Generations', while Nemesis is 'Star Trek Nemesis'. Even thought they're just fuckin 'Stark Trek: Generations' and 'Star Trek: Nemesis'. My two cents re this title though? I love it.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST
Vulturess sure it's implausible but this is a Vulcan we're talking about.
by FluffyUnbound
The entire history of Star Trek strongly implies that Vulcans are pussies. They're stronger than humans, smarter than humans, and live much longer than humans. They got warp drive before humans. By all lights, Vulcans should rule and we should be an apprentice race in their empire of logic. (Sort of like the political setup to ENTERPRISE, but much, much worse, and forever.) We can deduce from the fact that Vulcans don't rule humans that Vulcans are pussies. And one way in which they are pussies is that they are suckers for the old Landrieu Computer / VGer gambit: you can trick them into acting against their own interest with trite logic tricks. So basically everything we know about Trek tells us that Spock would lose that ship to a determined Kirk.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST
DARKNESS!!!! Cocaine is a very powerful drug, Charlie Murphy...
by obijuanmartinez
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Maybe with another font? Star Trek: Clear Sulu & Pike Out of Toys R Us might be a good title too
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST
So, does anyone above the age of 12 actually think that is a good title?
by Son of a Butch
"It has the word DARKNESS in it, which makes it COOL"... lol
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Star Trek Into Spinal Tap
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I don't think it's worth worrying about something that may or may not, be the title. It fits with that Gary Marshall stuff the film is / isn't about. With the leaving the galaxy thing - 'into darkness'. But the film isn't going to be all "dark" Chris Pine confirmed that they aren't doing a batman / Dark Knight thing, because Star Trek doesn't need that (Unless we're going to do a Deep Space 9 film, which is very much requiring darkness.)
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that's all, just wanted to say that
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ON THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE UNDER CAPTAIN KIRK! STAR TREKKIN ACROSS THE UNIVERSE! BOLDLY GOING FORWARD 'CAUSE WE CAN'T FIND REVERSE! Ok, corny and predictable, but you all know you LOVE THAT SONG, DON'T YOU? everybody sing along! THERE'S KLINGONS ON THE STARBOARD BOW, STARBOARD BOW, STARBOARD BOW, THERE'S KLINGONS ON THE STARBOARD BOW, STARBOARD BOW, JIM! J.J. Abrahams should put this musical number somewhere in the film! Box office gold, i tell ya!
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disease and danger wrapped in DARKNESS and silence. At least they got that right.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST
2009 Star Trek is already better than all the Star Wars movies combined
by vini77
So enough with the comparisons.
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One of the things I liked best about the first one was that, despite all the grit and conflict, it was also return to a style of unabashed optimism. "Into Darkness" is a strange title to use if that's a tone they wish to continue.
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That's what the doctor who gave me my colonoscopy meanacingly whispered in my ear before the sedative overwhelmed me. He's married to his work.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:17 a.m. CST
Enough with the fucking lens flares already...
by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi
Jeezus, so many of you jagoffs whine and whine and whine about fucking lens flares. For Christ sakes, I'm assuming you're fans of the original Star Trek TV series - have you watched it lately? The effects on that show were amateurish even for the time, even for TV. Some of them were Ed Wood-level. For that matter, have you seen the first season of TNG lately? That was done in the '90's, and some of the FX were nearly as bad as the original show. So, J.J. Abrams has some fucking lens flares - that's just carrying on Star Trek's proud tradition of shitty FX. What you're really pissed off about is that Abrams had changed the tone of the series from cerebral, intellectual fare to popcorn-fantasy territory - the new Trek now bears more of a resemblance the Star Wars franchise than it does the original series. Fine. If that bothers you, fair cop. But own up to what's really pissing you off instead of hiding behind this lens flares crap, 'cause all that does is make you look like idiots.
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or an uncharted part of space. Sounds more likely than the tone of the film being showcased in the title.
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But its definitely a bad title.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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That, "Star Trek Into The Unknown Darkness, Where No Human, In Their Right Mind, Has Bothered To Go Before", was just to long a title! In this new episode, Kirk, finds a discarded, Geoff Peterson, & upgrades him, & puts him on the Bridge where, Geoff, then adds ad-libs & insults to what is going on! Which Results in a battle of wits between Bones & Geoff, with Spock caught in the middle & now in pon far, who then proceeds to solve the problem, by fucking them both up the ass!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST
This Summer, Karl Urban, Chris Pine, and Ice Cube are... STAR TREKIN'
by ChaunceyGardiner
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST
You're all a bunch o Trulanes. Only you have no power. Some of you have a crew of men to play with I'm certain.
by UltraTron
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What it means is that fussy little bitchboys like yourselves will yell and scream about it until Mommy decides it's time to put you down for a nap. I hope none of you ever get what you want for the rest of your lives.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST
The first TV SF show aired at least in the USa might had been "Captain Video and His Video Rangers" in 1949
by albert comin
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST
First TV depiction of TV SF geek: Art Carney in "Honeymooners"
by kabong
Ed Norton, the sewer-worker neighbor of Ralph Kramden, was a big fan of Captain Video. <p> To him is owed so much.
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just saying >.>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Video_and_His_Video_Rangers
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST
The first Star Trek movie made by JJ Abrams looks like the result of a dare.
by albert comin
Somebody dared JJ Abrams to make a movie with almost no Star Trek in it, make it from refences to other movies (Star Wars, Top Gun, etc), but still called it Star Trek and try to get away with it.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST
Ten to one this is the name of the big budget Star Trek 360/ps3 console game due out next year...
by Stegman84
Just saying.
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that reminds me of the Dark Knight. I hope this Star Trek is grounded into a realistic and gritty, tension filled atmospheric world. I bet it would make a billion dollars that way. Is there going to be a cg animated Heath Ledger in this one? Maybe he could play Khan.
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...the Van Dam film kicked ass. Quick editing and choppy cuts. Ahead of Nolan.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST
Be interesting to see "Star Trek Into Darkness" action figures at ToysRUS
by matineer
Hey Paramount, how's the ancillary marketing on this reboot doing anyway?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST
I think it supposed to be read as one phrase. Not Star Trek (pause) Into Darkness, just Star Trek Into Darkness. Like A Walk To Remember
by FreeBeer
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I don't know, it's cute to use Trek as a verb now but it still feels like they think they're smarter than they are and that they are "fixing" Trek for people that don't know shit about what wasn't broken with it in the first place. Berman's TNG movies were bad, even First Contact, and that's what was wrong. Abrams' Trek movies....have a lot more lens flares but still miss out on what the simple joy of Trek was. The Apple Store they called a bridge, that hair-dryer redsign of the Enterprise, the heartless destruction of Vulcan and characters who were never supposed to die, alternate fucking realities....sorry, this is still an ill-conceived experiment that I'm ready to be done with and want a good Trek show back on TV, thanks a fucking lot.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST
just give us a f..cking trailer.Should be ready by now
by Richard L. Rhodes
ENGAGE!!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST
Sounds like a big screen version of 'Where No Man Has Gone Before'.
by Royston Lodge
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thats the pitfall of movies versus a series. such a limited time frame in a movie you'll never get the sprawling story line. or even that waiting week to week between episodes where your mind fills in gaps.
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So, this is just like when The Internet "confirmed" that Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan, and this was going to be a remake of Wrath of Khan? Have we learned nothing?? Aren't we jumping the gun a little bit here?
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Almost.
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What will they call the gay black porn version of it? Star Trek 10: "Darkness Into Star Trek"?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
happybunni - Here's how it works. The SPEEDINESS of the news is what you're talking about? Yeah it cloud be on VHS quality. And when I say VHS quality I mean EP or SLP quality.
by Darth_Kong
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Seriously, a colon between Trek and Into makes it not look quite as stupid while still allowing people to read it as a sentence by ignoring the colon if they want. They could even pretend it's 'clever' that way.
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You wanna bet that's the plot of this movie?
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But this is the internet. Who is sci-fi fantasy, just like Star Wars is sci-fi fantasy, but that's still part of sci-fi. Like Alien is sci-fi horror and Aliens is sci-fi action. It's still all sci-fi.
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He said 'We're not making 'Batman' here'.
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...this name just sucks.
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Remember: HANCOCK was originally entitled HE COMES. PIRATE RADIO was THE BOAT THAT ROCKED. WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING was COMA GUY. THE 13th WARRIOR was EATERS OF THE DEAD. SCREAM was (ironically) SCARY MOVIE. GOODFELLAS was WISE GUY. PRETTY WOMAN was 3000. ROCKY was THE CONTENDER. HITCH was THE LAST FIRST KISS. UNFORGIVEN was WHORE'S GOLD. BIG was WHEN I GROW UP. THE VILLAGE was THE WOODS. REALITY BITES was THE REAL WORLD. LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA was MEN FROM MARS. SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER was THE TRIBAL RITES OF THE NEW SATURDAY NIGHT. TOMORROW NEVER DIES was TOMORROW NEVER LIES. THE AVENGERS was MARVEL AVENGERS ASSEMBLE. I suspect that this film will NOT be called STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS; however, the word "darkness" might be a plot point or eventually find its way into the final title.
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...cool for you (see how easy it is to be nice). She's not my idea of beautiful. But if she IS your idea of beautiful, cool, we won't have to fight over her in a bar.
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Star Trek movie I *WON'T* be seeing in the theatres.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST
Third movie will be STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS AND BACK OUT AGAIN INTO LIGHTNESS
by MrSandwich
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Sept. 8, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST
We need more NASA-style space optimism, not gritty, dark sci-fi where the future sucks ass. Completely contrary to the original vision.
by kidicarus
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at least according to the gals that run his fan club.
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Gene Roddenberry was a hack who was difficult to work with. He originally presented his vision of STAR TREK to the studios as "WAGON TRAIN TO THE STARS." There is nothing "visionary" about that. The guy was making a sci fi television series in which he wanted to MAKE MONEY. As popular media sentiment during the 60s shifted more and more to the "Age of Aquarius," Roddenberry shifted his vision too. It was not simply pokey, corny and cheesy, but it also presented an oversimplified view on life. It came full circle when he realized that the Klingons were the most popular part of the show because of the CONFLICT. The universe, it seems, was not all rainbows and unicorns. The first motion picture was difficult to sit through. It reflected Roddenberry's own audacious and egotistical view of "self importance." Remember the scene in which Kirk is going to the refit ENTERPRISE and flies by for what seems like 15 minutes? From what actors, directors, producers and writers said, Gene Roddenberry was difficult to work with. He wanted FULL CONTROL of everything and would write, rewrite and ultimately revert back to what others suggested. When ST:TMP was a critical failure, the studios realized that they needed to get Roddenberry out of the creative process. He was just BORING. And, of course, BORING doesn't sell tickets. There has to be conflict -- and not just internal -- to perk the interest of the audience. Roddenberry hated this. He hated losing control. He hated that Leonard Nimoy and Nicholas Meyer had more say into the "vibe" of the show than he had. So, the "original vision" is a myth. While Roddenberry did (for a time) embrace the hippie philosophy of "flower power," he didn't have any end-points or meaningful "can't we all just get along" philosophy that would sell the show to studios or the audience.
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It's means everyone in the marketing department is going to start shooting themselves trying to sell a title JJ or someone close to him thinks is cool but really sounds like something an intern would write down when asked by an exec to think up a bunch of possible titles to submit in a meeting knowing they would all get thrown out but at least his or her ass was covered. (Uh, got that?) A previous post was right... at least add a colon in the middle - Star Trek: Into Darkness.
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or Start Trek with a Vengeance or A Good Day to Star Trek (C'mon you know some Fox exec was a Trek fan when they came up with the 5th Die Hard film, might as well return the favor) or Star Trek with Mint Frosting or Star Trek I Object, I am not a Merry MAN!!! or Star Trek If you were any other man I would KILL YOU where you stand!
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....their homeworld is wiped out...there are only a few thousand of them left.....I bet some of those remaining Vulcans say "Fuck Logic....look where that got us!" and become terrorists.
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I truly stand in awe of all of you talentless hand jobbers and your amazing wit and creative ideas. No wonder there are people who make movies, write books and songs and actually create art, and then there are shit-for-brains dickless wonders who criticize them. Ha ha! STD! I get it...It's a reference to sex (which 90% of the posters here can only imagine). Ha ha! Lens Flare! It's because Abrams uses lens flare as a creative choice! Funny! Ha ha! Star Trek 2: Trek Harder....I get it! It's like Die Hard! What a bunch of HILARIOUS GENIUSES! Here's a thought. Watch the goddamn movie and judge it on it's merits rather than your own junior high sense of humor you fuck-tards.
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I am a TREK fan and have read/watched quite a bit about Roddenberry. These tidbits about him are found in many voices. Hell, you can "read between the lines" of the TWOK DVD commentary.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST
Here's how the RELIGIOUS MARKETING from Hollywood works...
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST
Now look at the Enterprise on the first ONE-SHEET bathed in white light. Kirk is Christian, Spock is Jewish. You all know where that comes from right? Kirk means Church...
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST
So naturally if you have this Mystery Box MOVIE RELIGION which is modeled after King Solomon's Temple and Freemasonry(Solomon's Temple is the Female Box)...
by Darth_Kong
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Google is your friend. Look this stuff up for yourself.
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You're a genius. Wow...how you saw all that symbolism and ... wait a minute. Nope, you're just a dumbfuck.
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Not sure how thinking the movie would have been better without the lens flares isn't fair criticism of a movie. Whether it was a creative choice or not, Abrams misfired badly with that one in my opinion. And I enjoyed the movie overall.
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Other than the names, it bears no resemblace to the Trek I liked. All flash, no substance.
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In case nobody answered. Also I agree.
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I'm overthinking it, probably.
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the brewery the Enterprise interior is filmed in has made a special beer called "Dark Matter" and the whole crew is shitfaced during the filming of the movie.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST
Now Damon Lindelof is Jewish, as far as I can tell, and he put, with Ridley's help, JEWISH FREEMASONRY symbols in Prometheus. It's their movie not mine. WHERE'S SHADOW 19!?
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST
Now I'm not making any jokes and I call murder MURDER but I also call a spade a SPADE. You think Star Trek and JJ Abrams are above RELIGIOUS SYMBOLISM?
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
I'd like to thank the Academy, Jar Jar Abrams, and the Captain of the USS Kabbalah, shatners hairpiece aka MR. HELPER.
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST
Wow, glad I came on here to learn Gene Roddenberry was a hack; the B-17 piloting, the cop experience, the writing in TV's golden age, the creation of Star Trek itself...
by matineer
... that's just nothing. Roddenberry is the hack. Yup. Boot up and get edukayted.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST
But adding a colon would acknowledge the existence of the TNG movies
by SuperTrekkie
And no highly paid marketing exec who wants to keep his job is going to do that.
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In Europe and the rest of the world, the movie is known as "The Boat That Rocked". It was renamed "Pirate Radio" only for the american market.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST
Why, the last one was already a trip into darkness...
by RocketScientist
...compared to what the franchise once stood for...
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST
Calling Gene Roddenberry a hack is so wrong on so many levels.
by albert comin
If even Roddenberry can be called an hack, what what that makes JJ Abrams? I was once in a IMDB forum and this guy was making a furious defense of Michael Bay, claiming the best director ever, and comparing him to Martin Scorsese and saying the latter was an untalented hack. Putting down a truly great filmmaker for the sake of an hack. You can imagine how that made me feel (very fucking pissed off). So, whenever i see somebody praises sky high JJ Abrams by putting down Roddenberry, the very creator of Star Trek and from which JJ Abrams is now getting sweet rewards, i can't help but feel revolt for the disrespect. Gene Roddenberry created Star Trek, the least we can do is show him respect for that. Can any of you even consider a world without Star Trek, without Roddenberry's creation? No you can. So show some respect, will you?
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Are you having us all on or are you being serious? I haven't seen your posts before so forgive me if I've missed out on what must be some sort of bizarre performance art. If you ARE being serious, then why don't you drop the coy act and just come out with what you think the actual PURPOSE of all that is?
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The goal is to create a world without trekkies.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:40 p.m. CST
docpazuzu - Yes I'm SERIOUS. The PURPOSE is to let you know who's in charge of the world, who controls all the money, who makes all the decisions, you getting this?
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST
docpazuzu - When one is SYMBOLICALLY LITERATE you're going to see stuff all over. Trust me. It's everywhere and a Sci-Fi nerd should be SYMBOLICALLY LITERATE.
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST
docpazuzu - If you don't trust me go look at all the comparisons I've laid out and compare them on your own and make a decision on your own. I can see it.
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST
docpazuzu - One last thing, JACHIN means FIRM and BOAZ means EAGER. I don't know what the hell is HOLY about that. Sounds like SEX WORSHIP to me.
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST
Star Trek Returns (Drected by Tim Burton) would be a better title
by War1980
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Okay, so you're a loony then. Here's some basics for you. In order for a symbol to have an effect, the person viewing it has to know what it signifies. If the mass of movie viewers around the world are symbol-illiterates, how would your preposterous conspiracy actually work? And even if symbols WERE borrowed from terrestrial mythologies, why does that automatically mean the people using them are in sinister cahoots rather than using stuff because it looks or sounds cool? ' Sex worship ' , that's hilarious.
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My guess is you're not getting any. With humans, that is. You're starting to sound like that utter retard, media_messiah, and his claim that the Jet Propulsion Laboratory is a secret sex cult and that the porn industry is run by a satanist cabal. I notice, by the way, that you failed to address a single one of my points. Is that all your theories are worth? Pretty lame, chief.
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Don't tell ME to get over the lens flares! It is an annoying tactic that make no sense. Fuck Lens flares, JJ even said he put them there On purpose, and he MAY HAVE WENT A LITTLE OVERBOARD, then he chuckled. Fuck you, and fuck him. If the 2nd Star Trek REBOOT trailer has lens flares, I am Not attending Sir. If you made a movie, let alone, a Star Trek Movie, Would you add Lens Flare all over the fucking place for no reason? Dumbest shit ever, fuck JJ.
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Into What Now?
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But just about every single person from John D.F. Black, to Bob Justman, to Alexander Courage that he worked with on Star Trek have extremely unkind things to say about him as a boss an co-worker. For one he wrote in a "mixed-so-low-as to be inaudible" lyrical track to the Trek theme so he could collect half of Courage's song-writing royalties. During the last couple of years he was disinterested in the daily production of the show beyond "Casting" the female guest roles in his locked office. He came up with some great TV show ideas... but man he was a greasy low-life as a person.
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Fuck you, and, well....fuck ya......and................ What were we talking about? Oh Yeah! Stupid Fucking Lens Flares, Put in a movie on Purpose! To Annoy Viewers, For NO reason. Fuck New Star Trek.
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Creative people who are imposing and anoying to work with? That just describes half of all the creative people that ever lived. And that's because the other half lives secluded lifes. Compared to such creative guys like Otto Preminger and Stanley Kubrick, Roddenberry looked like a kitten. And you can find as many people praise the hell out of him as detractors. So there. So Gene Roddenberry rubbed some people the wrong way? So what? We do that in here as well. Welcome to the human race. What's undeniable is that Gene Roddenberry created something that even his detractor who got a paycheck out of it profited from. We all profited from Roddenberry creation, be those who worked on it or people like us who had fun watching it. That's what i mean about respect. And if there is something that truly rubs me the wrong way is people who feel the need to piss on the name of Roddenberry just so they can support their love for either Abram's Star Trek or Star Trek 2, just because those two ovies conflict with Roddenberry's vision. That is a whole piece of bull cake. If people feel so insecure about their enjoyment of those movies they feel the need to bring down Roddenberry and his vision of Star Trek, then there's something wrong with then. No Roddenberry, no Abrams' Trek, simple as that. So show some fucking respect!
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Can we at least agree that Roddenberry had incredible taste in women? I mean, ALL the chicks in Star Trek are unbelievably hot, even by today's very high porn-ified standards. If you can't beat off to Marla McGivers or Uhura or Rand or any one of Mudd's women or all the rest, maybe you should spend more time in WeHo. That show is seriously filled with a LOT of bosomy hotties.
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Are you seriously suggesting that people having kids who can't afford them are being subliminally influenced by a Jewish film conspiracy? By God, it all makes sense now! Because, as we all know, poor people started having more kids than they could afford at roughly the same time that motion pictures were invented. Being insane is bad enough, but being insane and stupid? Time to put the corrective helmet back on, darth, because the tinfoil one you've been using hasn't protected your head enough when walking into those glass doors every day.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST
The last line is directed to everybody, not you in particular, Mr dougmckenzie
by albert comin
I never saw people pissing on Bob Kane and Bill Finger to support any movie version of Batman. I love the nolan's movies and never felt the need to piss on the names ofBob Kane and Bill Finger. Without them, there would be none of the Nolan's Batman movies i so enjoy. So why is it that the fanboys of both tjhe 2009's Star Trek and Wrath Of Khan need to piss on Roddenberry to justify their love for those movies? I never understood that mindset, and it sure pisses me off that shameless disrespect. I guess i better never go to a SW thread, then.
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Sorry, if I told you to fuck off. or anyone. I just don't see the purpose of adding bright lights to movies, that make the viewer turn their head and Not look at the film. Ad Nauseaum. It kind of defeats the Purpose. And for the Record Darth Kong, I have a cool Book about symbols relating to even the make- up of Sea shells and how society reflects these in Archeticture and normal life. Cool stuff. Fuck you JJ and your Lens Flares. Does Super 8 really have added lens flare? What a douche.
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Oh yeah! I occasionally rewatch the od show, and i can't beleive how many great looking women that show had. Gorgeaus 1960s women who would still look amazingly sexy even in today's fashion. If not more so. I believe Uhura/Nichelle Nicol's sex appeal did more to bring closer the races then all of Martin Luther King's speeches. How many whiteboys got their first hard-on on account of Uhura? Who says sex is not a positive influence on society?
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Does Super 8 really have added lens flare
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"Does Super 8 really have added lens flare", you asked. It does indeed. The lens flares were added diligitally in post-production. Today's film camera lens are made in such way they no longer create the lens flares effect they did in the past. So, whenever you see a Holywood movie with a good budget that has lens flares in it, they were created digitally in post. "Super 8" is a perfect example of that, as was "Star Trek", and most recently the "Total Recall" remake.
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Thank you.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:07 p.m. CST
I've got it! Jar Jar is doing a Trek remake of Apocalypse Now
by victor82
Cumberbatch is playing the Trek version of Colonel Kurtz. JJ can't help himself, he's totally derivative of everything that Spielberg has done, but now he wants to try and go Steven one better by ripping off Coppolla. Shatner will get his cameo as the Colonel Kilgore character, leading a posse of shuttlcraft in an attack on a peaceful Hulkan village to the tune of "Ride of the Hairpieces". Naturally, Spock and Kirk will play the two sides of Captain Willard.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST
Total Recall? You think this is the real Darth Kong? It is!
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST
STAR TREK ME ONCE: YOU CAN'T GET FOOLED AGAIN
by This_is_the_Zodiac_speaking
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST
STAR TREK A BLUNT GREASY POLE THROUGH THE ANUS AND OUT OF THE MOUTH
by This_is_the_Zodiac_speaking
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST
STAR TREK A BLUNT GREASY POLE THROUGH THE ANUS AND OUT OF THE MOUTH
by This_is_the_Zodiac_speaking
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:29 p.m. CST
Kinda glad it has a sucky title - match the movie probably
by trevanian
maybe they can save good titles like BORNE ON WINGS OF STEEL -- y'know, something actually evocative of how you would REALLY feel being on a starship instead of being some goof who 'enlists' in Starfleet -- or maybe something Shakesperian for when somebody else has the franchise and are doing good movies. The lens flare thing seems like deliberate self-sabotage to me, but the fact that audiences worldwide didn't just walk out kind of vindicates this Abrams guy -- you can put any crap up on screen and people will lap it up. Abrams 09 is only tangentially TREK, but it is so bad on whatever levels it tries to operate on ... except maybe it would be a marginal STAR WARS movie (actually those have all been marginal at best since Gary Kurtz departed.) I'm so glad I didn't see it in the theater, cuz I know that I would have had to walk out -- enduring the flares would be like sitting in a theater for 2hr watching somebody do endless rack-focuses or with every shot a jerky zoom from wide-angle to telephoto and back again. You do that when your 8 year old plays with a camera for the first week, but you sure as hell don't PAY to see it!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST
m6y: if Roddenberry is/was Russ Meyer, what does that make Bill Theiss?
by Bill C.
I mean, hell, you're absolutely right about the hotness quota...but someone had to design the outfits that enhanced the hotness. GIVE HIM HIS DUE!
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Yes, you are a complete nutcase. And a moron.
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I hate....aw fuck it, you know how i feel. It was so cool in Close Encounters of the First Kind, when the ships came over the hill and the three lights created that natural lens flare. Looks great. Why you would add it to every 20 seconds of your film digitally is beyond my comprehension.
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That has to be the lamest criticism of anything ever. I barely noticed them, and I'm willing to bet that most of the bitchers didn't either, they've just fooled themselves into thinking they did in some desperate and misguided attempt to appear hip or knowing. Lens flares are a flourish, nothing more, and if that's the first thing you can criticize, you're a fucking moron.
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If you did, you'd perhaps realize that clarity in the image is part of the appeal (hence why 80s movies with all that post-ET smoke looks so shit now ... didn't look too hot then either.Have a feeling a lot of the monochrome DIs of the last decade or 15 years post 3 KINGS are not going to age well either. ) How you could watch the movie and NOT be totally distracted by the lens flares is the real question. The flare nonsense helped with the movie in one way: after awhile, I started watching the DVD sideways out the corner of my eye, that way my wife and I could make jokes about what we were HEARING onscreen, which was even more godawful. IF the movie had actually been engaging to any degree, I think it would have been wrecked by the flares, but a shit movie probably deserves shit cinematography and equally poor contributions from other key departments. I remember interviewing the production designer (another Abrams regular) about 3 months before the movie came out and being flabbergasted about the level of his ignorance regarding what had been done in past SF movies. THE GUY DIDN'T THINK REFLECTIONS HAD BEEN USED IN ANY SPACE MOVIES BEFORE! Christ, can you say 2001? 2010? Or ST-TMP, or ST-TFF, or probably almost every other space movie. I guess it is too much to hope for that somebody might do research on what had gone before, but then again, we're talking about a movie where the bridge -- where you need to be able to see things clearly -- is GLARE CITY, a locale you'd probably need sunglasses just to be able to see through all the reflections and bright lights to your actual instrumentation. It's like going to a TARGET store and being in the aisle for cosmetics, just white-on-white glare that is hard on the eyes, on the mind, and on any decent aesthetic. You can do that sort of thing for an effect on occasion, especially if you have strong contrasting elements, but LIVING THERE?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST
Wow, so many buddies here always chat about Star Trek movies, or the hobbit movies about midgets walking in the forest
by ajit maholtra
They cant stop chatting about it!!!!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:15 p.m. CST
if you want to see flares as flourishes or grace notes, watch DIE HARD. McT did it right!
by trevanian
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I know you're a cretin, but you don't have to be so fucking obtuse. The obvious symbolism of Alien is a far cry from your deranged ranting about Jewish conspiracies to make poor people have children by watching movies. You have yet to address any of my points with any vigor or substance. All I'm seeing so far is a disjointed argumentation of feeble and paranoid fantasies.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:19 p.m. CST
STAR TREK INTO A LARGE DANK ANAL CAVITY WITH NO FRESH AIR OR HOPE OF ESCAPE
by ScoobySnack
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push-up bras... genius!
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duh.
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You're attributing highly sinister motives to practitioners of certain religions and implying that there's a conspiracy afoot in this regard. You're claiming utterly outrageous things and don't have the balls or intellectual capacity to defend them properly. You're an idiot and a lunatic.
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i am_notreal, you may not be real, but you are unobservant and blind. Watch it again and get a clicker counter for lens flares. Just click your thumb, everytime you see one. I would assume you would reach over 1000 easy. AND, I wrote Close Encounters of the FIRST Kind. My bad, what a fuckhead I am.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST
By the way Ajit, I am still banging that girl with the Tramp Stamp :)
by Nichole
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Sept. 8, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST
docpazuzu - See, that's the MAGIC of LIFE. You. What makes YOU unique. Not what you belong to. Belong to yourself. People want to OWN EVERYTHING. Even your mind.
by Darth_Kong
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How are you? Im happy youre still having sex with the gal with the tattoo above her bum. But always wear condom. Those gals can be dangerous!
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No condoms here, might marry her. She is gorgeous and almost 40. Milf to the max, but I'm 36.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
Harry forgive me, I'M SO GODDAMN SICK OF THIS RELIGIOUS-POLITICALLY CORRECT MINEFIELD WE LIVE IN TODAY WHERE NO ONE CAN ASK AN HONEST INTELLECTUAL QUESTION. BULL SHIT!
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 8, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST
As David Lynch said, BULLSHIT. THAT's HOW I FEEL. TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT.
by Darth_Kong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
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I like older women too. Its like dating a school teacher, or one of your older brother's classmates! Ive never dated one, but they often give me a bonner.
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How's the east coast, that is where you are at right? New Jersey? I'll just say fuck lens flares. Do you enjoy lens flares Ajit?
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There are a lot of black gals here. They tend to like me because I have brown skin but Im lighter than most blacks and they often tell me Im cute. But most of them or fat :( I dont know what lens flares are. I like ladies. Im drunk tonight and very horny so Im probably going to watch a porno and rub my lulla later. But the thing I dont like about pornos is that most of those gals are sluts. I want a nice gal.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9 p.m. CST
My Dream is to have a sex with a gal while listening to Duran Duran
by ajit maholtra
Girls on film, hungry like a wolf, and view to a kill playing in the background while I pull my lulla in and out of her phuddi!!!
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are you serious? Really??? I'm going to take a counter or clicker or whateverthefuck with me to the movies, and count LENS FLARES?? I'm going to compare Abrams' Star Trek to Die Hard? I'm THAT FUCKING GODDAM INSANE???? No. Sorry. Lens flares. you
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and don't worry about trivial shit like LENS FLARES
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I had my own problems with Trek...point is, I can focus on something more significant than FUCKING LENS FLARES, for Christ's sake. That's all.
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Watch the total recall piece of crap remake trailer, and notice the unnecessary lens flare. Star trek remake was the same. C'mon man.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST
The greatest feeling in the world is when you squirt your semmen in some gals phuddi but you use birth control to prevent the baby from coming
by ajit maholtra
The gal wants your lulla because she wants a baby but then you give your lulla without the baby coming. Thag way it is like you are stealing the pleasure without the many years of headache of having the baby. You steal the pleasure. Like a thief. You remove the semmen in the condom like a special sac that the burglar carries.
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I wouldn't waste my time with the Total Recall remake. Or its trailer! LENS FLARES SUCK is a cry of the loser. Come up with some legitimate criticism and we'll talk (and keep in mind...I didn't love Abrams' Trek...it was OK, nothing more) Until then....see you next talkback...
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:29 p.m. CST
By the way my buddies, never post in the talkbacks of Nordling. That guy is a real madarchod
by ajit maholtra
He told me to suck on the entire length of Scott Weinberg's pennis. Gay!!!!
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And fuck them big fat Black girls with a condom. Have some fun, bro!
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This guy you speak of, this madarchod, you may be on to something! ;) Stay cool.
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I liked Star Trek Reboot, but the Lens Flares ruin it for further watching. I suggest you watch it again, it will stick out like a sore thumb. Especially on the Bridge of the Enterprise. It's pointless and added in, for what? I swear I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how can you not see it.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:37 p.m. CST
*Does this mean they'll beam down to a fantasy planey with Tom Cruise and Tim Curry? What does it mean?*
by lv_426
Legend. Great flick. Star Trek + Legend done up as a good old fashioned style sword and planet romp could be fun. Or course, as you know Harry, John Carter having a disappointing box office adventure probably kills that idea.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST
darth kong, together we will eliminate the tyrannic rule of this gay at AICN so we can be free to flirt with ladies without this gay trying to feel our pennis!!!!
by ajit maholtra
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Carpenter's Halloween was exactly the same...but it had LENS FLARES or Alien...or Aliens...was the same frame by frame...but there were LENS FLARES or Lawrence of Arabia...same movie, but David Lean put in a few LENS FLARES or 2001. But Kubrick added LENS FLARES No, I'm not getting it. Because THERE IS NOTHING TO GET. LENS FLARES IS LAME CRITICISM. FOCUS ON SOMETHING REAL ABOUT THE FILM. Some real criticism. That was the only point of my original post.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST
ajit_maholtra - Nordling has a TRIGGER FINGER on the BLACKLIST USER BUTTON aka THE BAN-HAMMER. I won't post in his columns.
by Darth_Kong
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The cast get high while listening to the Beatles and start hallucinating. Meanwhile, they unintentionally start a war with the Klingons. Or they could call it STAR TREK: WHERE NO ONE HAS GONE BEFORE. I still like the idea of them doing the (second) pilot and see Cumberpatch as Gary Mitchell. We shall see. And I think someone already made this point, but...um... DarthKong? You know you can type your screed in the COMMENT box below the SUBJECT line, right? And say hi to Madonna for me won't you?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
Today all I posted was Sho Kosugi!!! in his lame article about samurais and he deleted it
by ajit maholtra
I think Nordling has sword envy.
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But I still say dont post in his talkbacks. Hes very angry about something and hes looking to punish us for it!!!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST
Hes like the wimpy kid who was picked on and then becomes a cop and abuses everyone to take revenge for everything wrong in his life
by ajit maholtra
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:05 p.m. CST
But enough about the madarchods. Lets stay positive my buddies
by ajit maholtra
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST
When Im drunk I often fantasize about the ugly gals who flirted with me, and I start to wish that I fucked them
by ajit maholtra
Like a charity service. Make a wish. i'll make their dreams come true. If one of those ugly gals was in my bed right now Id bang their phuddi with my lulla!!!
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:11 p.m. CST
Ugly gals need love too. And the fat ones. If you drink enough beer you can pretend they are Natalie Portman!
by ajit maholtra
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Honestly, all I want is news about a CRITTERS remake and SHADOW 19 and I hope he NEVER reports on them. Because honestly I'll never post in his talkbacks. Funny that other people have had bad dealings with him. Why am I NOT surprised?
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST
Fat gals have big boobs, or fat boobs. So just stare at their boobs while you fuck them and pretend it is Anna Nicole Smith!!
by ajit maholtra
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Comparing what we are rightly discussing to Halloween, Alien, and Lawrence of Arabia. Fuck that is a dumb analogy. You are a thick headed son of a bitch.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST
Jason Voorhes was an angry virgin who killed anyone who had sex because he was too gross to meet any lady other than his mother
by ajit maholtra
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You said this: You steal the pleasure. Like a thief. You remove the semmen in the condom like a special sac that the burglar carries. That is the funniest fucking thing I've read all day. LMFAO!! You're the best.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST
Some gal with pubic lice lived close to a nuclear power plant, and then she got critters. And that gal was Jennifer Aniston
by ajit maholtra
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too much of anything, even lens flares, isn't necessarily a good thing
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How are you? Welcome to the party pal.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST
I'm good. I've been around here too much today really.
by adeceasedfan
The more you post the better my evening gets.
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In all sincerity, the buddies who post at this site are some of my best buddies in the world.
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You know as raunchy as the new Piranha movies were your idea is perfect. Infecting pubic lice with space rabies and they mutate into Critters. I wouldn't change the design of the Critters too much but cgi could do some stuff puppets couldn't. I would still stick mostly with puppets though. This remake with a new sexual spin could be HUGE. Huge potential. I'd cast Jennifer Aniston in it.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 10:51 p.m. CST
Cheers. At the end of my night, I will go to pornhub dotcom
by ajit maholtra
I usually check the main page first to see which are the top rated pornos of the day to hopefully discover a new good one. One time i found this one gal who was very hot, and had a very high rated porno, but then I saw something gross. She had a tail! Im serious. She was very hot and cute, but she had a tail. I was looking to find it so I could post and share the link but I havent found it yet.
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All the way, JJ.
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That's a new one. Well enjoy your rubhub buddy.
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Sept. 8, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
Thanks! I'll see if I can find it and Ill post the link here
by ajit maholtra
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Well, Insurrection was supposed to have a darker tone, where Picard was sent to hunt down an old friend... DATA. Similar to Apocalypse Now in a way... The studio shot the idea down. So, maybe the new E crew has to hunt down an old friend... Mitchell who has gone renegade based on his hidden esp powers he stumbles upon...? Seems logical?! Giez
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Sept. 9, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST
I cant find the one with the gal who has a tail but if I ever do I'll post it
by ajit maholtra
But I did find lost of other nice pornos. Sometimes its hard to find good ones and its mostly dirty gals, but tonight they are so many good ones! wowowowowowowowowowowowowowow I already rubbed. Now its time to sleep LOL
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Sept. 9, 2012, 12:48 a.m. CST
It's Nothing Title. I'm surprised they've never called one, "To Boldy Go"
by Charlie
To Boldy Go
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Sept. 9, 2012, 1:15 a.m. CST
I think maybe they should have titled these new Star Trek films like this
by lv_426
Star Trek (2009) should have been titled STARFLEET. Seeing as it was an origina story and all. That way with this upcoming sequel and a likely third Abrams film with this cast we'd have a trilogy with the following titles: 1) STARFLEET 2) THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE 3) STAR TREK
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There should of been a million hilarious joke titles in this thread. Instead we got this symbolism bullshit. What happened to all the old timers who used to actually post funny shit. Now it's just dumb bullshit written by people who just sound really confused by the tv shows and movies they watch.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 2:33 a.m. CST
JJ should have fired Orci and Kurtzman and used Paul Kinsey's Trek spec THE NEGRON COMPLEX
by lv_426
How's that for ya don_drapers_acid_trip?
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A good title for the second film of a trilogy.
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Yes Clint Howard. Runs the transporter room on the USS Jism. Shows up to work hung-over. Thinks he knows a hill of beans about astro-physics and cosmology. Naw, he's full of shit.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 3:10 a.m. CST
But instead we get these super serious Trek adventures where they use Beastie Boys music and awww fuck it I'm already tired talking about this hack shit.
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 9, 2012, 3:18 a.m. CST
JJ Abrams Star Trek is the most predictable hogwash I've ever seen. Kirk's dad dies. Kirk steals a car. Pounds booze. Tell him about his dead dad and he gets all serious.
by Darth_Kong
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Sept. 9, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST
And the fucking characters have about as much conviction as an eight year old kid who had his Kenner Luke Skywalker action figure stolen out of his knapsack during recess.
by Darth_Kong
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that has always been the case with the kids of today and not the old weasels that still roam the earth like you guys
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Sept. 9, 2012, 3:54 a.m. CST
I'm in no way defending over-rated hack, Abrams but, people complaining about lens flare -
by Fortunesfool
Go watch Die Hard again. It's lens flare city in that movie. Even gets its own sound effects at times.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 3:59 a.m. CST
In Star Trek: Into the Dark , Sulu discovers Nu-old Spock is somehow his father and they both have a swordfight on the edge of a steel platform overlooking an artificial chasm...
by Balkin Flabgurter
there going for something here..
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Sept. 9, 2012, 4:28 a.m. CST
Also, is Earth the center of the universe in this one? aHaHaahaaaHaha!
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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Sept. 9, 2012, 4:32 a.m. CST
Abrams put in lens flares (and chase cam) because
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
he desperately wanted to be like Whedon on Firefly. Whedon specifically discusses those elements in the Firefly commentary.
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To me, the mirror universe has always represented the best way for Star Trek to do some really dark, twisted, epic shit. I've read on this site and others the rumblings of plans to shoot a two-parter... so could you imagine a cliffhanger with an older Tiberius/Shatner showing up demanding the Enterprise to surrender or be destroyed, like in Shatner's novels? It would be the perfect way to incorporate the time travel element from the reboot and add a jaw-droppingly awesome moment from Trek literature. Now if Shatner could lose some damn weight.
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There are close encounters of the first kind in the movie "Close encounters Of The Third" kind. The movie shows all the gammut of close encounters, and in the climax it has a close encounter OF THE FOURTH KIND! Actually, the movie's title is a bit of a misnomer. So, technically, you are not incorrect, only unexact.
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I watched JJ Abrams movie called "StarTrek", i watched it both as a Star Trek movie and as a movie on it's own, and in both account i found the movie wanting. To put it lightly. And yes the absurd use of lens flares throughout the movie was one element that made it suck. One bad thing alone is not enough to ruin a movie, yes, but many bad things working together only make each bad thing pop out and emphasis it's wrongness. And Abrams' idea behind the use of the lens flares (cameras catching a glorious future) are quite idiotic, and i suspect it's a rationalization he made after the fact. Because that's a movie that looks entirely made using rule of cool and without much actual though put into anything. It's a collage of stuff that Abrams and his collaborators think is cool. No other considration was put in to the making of that movie. Now if that suffices for you, fine. But it hardly pass mustard for me or anybody who feels the movies should adequatedly reward the ticket price you payed. And "Super 8" is even worst. I find "Star Trek" comedic in it's misguideness, but "Super 8" insulted me.
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I watched JJ Abrams movie called "StarTrek", i watched it both as a Star Trek movie and as a movie on it's own, and in both account i found the movie wanting. To put it lightly. And yes the absurd use of lens flares throughout the movie was one element that made it suck. One bad thing alone is not enough to ruin a movie, yes, but many bad things working together only make each bad thing pop out and emphasis it's wrongness. And Abrams' idea behind the use of the lens flares (cameras catching a glorious future) are quite idiotic, and i suspect it's a rationalization he made after the fact. Because that's a movie that looks entirely made using rule of cool and without much actual though put into anything. It's a collage of stuff that Abrams and his collaborators think is cool. No other considration was put in to the making of that movie. Now if that suffices for you, fine. But it hardly pass mustard for me or anybody who feels the movies should adequatedly reward the ticket price you payed. And "Super 8" is even worst. I find "Star Trek" comedic in it's misguideness, but "Super 8" insulted me.
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While very poetic and a reference to oe of my favorite Beatles' song, using "Across The Universe" in the title would be absurd because in-universe the Federation people in star Trek had barely explored 1/10th of the galaxy in The Next Generation time, much less during Kirk's time. But hat would be using the rules established in classci Star Trek. But in JJ Abrams Star Trek, all rules were shot to hell. I wouldn't be suprised if in that continium they could jump from galaxy to galaxy with complete gay abandon.
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The idea of making a Star Trek version of "Heart Of Darkness" (which inspired the brillant movie "Apocalypse Now"), is a good idea. I just seriously doubt this is the crew to pull it off (and by that i mean i'm totally convinced they can't). If that is the plot for this movie, of course. And now that Damon Lindelof is on screenwriting duties too, you bet there will be cod simpleton religious references as well, and faith will be a major element in the story, just like did (to ruin) "Prometheus". God gives me strenghs!
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Appologies.
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The problem is this movie is still 'directed' by JJ Abrams and 'written' by Kurtzman, Orci and Lindelof. <p> This is a huge fucking problem.
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I'm still a dumb-ass for getting THAT name wrong:) I'm watching From Beyond on VHS right now. I hope that puts some of my credibility back.
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This new Trek is aimed at mall-dwellers. No wonder the last one's gross outside the States was so low.
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I never saw "From Beyond". Any good? Recomended?
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Yeah I said it.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe that quadrants in the ST universe do not mean 1/4th of galaxy. I could be wrong, of course. But i do seem to recall Picard once comenting that they have only explored 1/10th of the galaxy as that time. Anyway, at Kirk's time, there really was a hell of a lot of galaxy to know, the known portion was quite small, which was the whole point of the show. Even the Federation wa smade of many races and made of thousand of in habited colonies or home systems, the galactic space yet to be know was much bigger. The sense of unknown was quite palpable.
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As is all Stuart Gordon films. Re-animator and such. Shoot, he is the only filmmaker that does H.P. Lovecraft Justice. It has Ken Forree in it. Check em' all out you will dig them.
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The opinions about Abrams's "Star Trek" outside the USA is quite curious. The few who watched it, most of them have positive opinions. but one thing i found common in thme: they seem to know very little about classic Star Trek besides the major character's name and what is known of the show from cultural osmosis. The very positive attitude toward Abrams' "Star Trek" in UK is particularly puzzling, with many professional writers of film and SF magazines professing great love for it, with only the discordant voices coming fom the readership. It's strange. That movie really casted a spell on the professional reviewers. It's good i'm not a professional writer/reviewer for a SF magazine, or else i would found myself a pariah.
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My VHS tapes for Re-aniimator and From Beyond have HPS' name on the cover. There is also Dagon. Which is a Sea Creature from Cthulu. There is more.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 6:57 a.m. CST
Ok, I added "From Beyond" to my to-watch list. Thanks for the recomendation.
by albert comin
I like Stuart Gordon. He's a good director. I enjoyed "Re-Animator" a lot, and "Dagon" is underrated in my opinion. It's also endearing his dedication H.P. Lovecraft. I believe his entire career is made of nothing but adaptations of Lovecraft's works. Talk about dedication, he really does it for the art.
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Am i Trippin, or did he do that film Stuck? The true story of the guy in the Windshield? I think he did a Masters of Horror episode as well. He is awesome.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST
Stargate as a concept is much more emotionally captivating than vanilla athiest wet dream trek
by dioxholsters_scion
You watch the stargate movie and ten minutes in you begin to tear up and by the time of the climax you already holding your breath with your heart racing, hoping and wishing that you could do anything to help the heroes on screen before its too late. And when it ends you go from panic to sanguine as it dawns on you that the threat is over and everything is well in the world
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Here I am debating whether or not to upgrade Re-Animator on blu-ray from my already twice bought DVD versions and you're still plugging along with the VHS?! I envy you sir. I was just staring at my wall of DVD's upon waking and wondering if I need all this crap. I've really got to scale back. I'm such a consumer. Damn.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST
It I missed all the good stuff. I thought that wierd shit in Prometheus was supposed to symbolize shit in the actual movie. Here I was trying figure it out within the confines of the narrative and what I didn't realize was
by UltraTron
it was actually the first set if survival instructions to direct me to the Denver airport to read the rest of the instructions on the murals there and hope I can somehow get past the guy in the airport armed with a machine gun(true fact there seems to be a machine gunned guard there). So I guess Prometheus was designed completely as a new world order survival brochure. Right?
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST
What's the symbolism in Abraham's trek? I want a breakdown of the warp nacelles and how they look like filopean tubes of the old ones
by UltraTron
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST
lv_426: rather liked that idea. Starfleet. Great! Woulda shoulda coulda
by UltraTron
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST
The symbolism in JJ Abrams's "Star Trek"? The victory of advertizement over content.
by albert comin
Probably the reason why it's the only Star Trek movie ever made that has product placement in a story set in the 23rd century.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST
Startrek Eternal Darkness. That's basically what we have now. No star trek on the tv. Nothing but mindless shit I can't turn on.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
Oh no we can't put anything on the tv that might inspire someone or show them a positive future to aspire to
by UltraTron
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST
I love the fuck out of star trek and want it to live damn you. Damn you all to hell.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 9, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST
Here I was watching 24p blu-ray at 200 inches and all I really needed was creepythin's beta porn collection to be happy. Warm,fuzzy nostalgia goggles and no concerns about
by UltraTron
quality in any way shape or form would have saved me serious bank on my system. Hey baby let's go watch my beta collection. What's that? Oh it's this amazing technology that showcases a lot of Swedish erotica porn from the late 70s. It's a date! Oh wait he doesn't even have the miracle clarity of beta just VHS. Well so much for that fantasy date.
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Guess that title would have been too obvious
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Sept. 9, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST
star trek is as bland a concept can get, its vanilla sci-fi only made anew with lens flares
by dioxholsters_scion
you guys are a running gag on this site. what do you want? shit. thats what you want. Dont fault me for having better tastes, as a creative person, I know bullshit when i see it and these hollywood summer movies are bullshit
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
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Sept. 9, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST
The Stargate TV shows were just a military-industrial complex version of Star Trek...
by Gary Makin
And ripped off every story and idea Trek ever did.
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One? Maybe two?
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Sept. 9, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST
Remember that song Push it by Salt and Pepper? When i first heard that song I couldnt believe they were allowed to say those things and it made me really horny
by ajit maholtra
Then when I saw the pictures of Salt and Pepper they were sort of ugly and it wasnt as good.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST
It should have been called "Star Trek Avenge the Darkness"
by RedBull_Werewolf
That way idiot Americas are reminded of both avengers and dark knight, that means they will by tickets or is Paramount wanted more money they could call it Avastar Trek Avenge the Deathly Hallows of Darkness 3D
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Sept. 9, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST
I love it when the tin-foil hat-wearing crowd highjacks a talkback
by Chewbacca_Khan
As for the movie: I'll see it in the theaters. Saw the first one there, liked it except for blowing up Vulcan. Saw it again at home and the lens flares bugged the hell out of me. My guess on the title is either Where No Man has Gone Before (into darkness at the edge of the galaxy?) or Mirror Universe...guess we'll see.
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Loved hearing the Beastie Boys in the first one now to hear that the second film will slowly filter into a Darkness music video has made my day.. I'm placing my bets on the 'I Believe In A Thing Called Love' video having been a pilot for this film..
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Sept. 9, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST
I'd love to see another Star Trek TV series on, or more Battlestar Galactica, or Stargate on TV
by lv_426
Or heaven forbid a new space opera TV series or one adapted from a book or something. Actually, the game Homeworld would make for a pretty cool BSG/Stargate Universe type of space opera show. Or maybe EVE Online. I was poking around their site recently and they seem to have some cool world building going on with the various factions and technology. I could see that being built on for a TV show. Actually what I'd love to see in terms of a space opera TV show would be sort of a fusion of Star Trek's pioneering spirit of interstellar exploration mixed with more of a true hard sci-fi mentality and some of the darkness and Lovecraftian horror of Alien. It wouldn't have to be as dirty and depressing as the Alien films, but not so squeaky clean like a lot of Trek has been. I suppose we sort of got there with BSG, Firefly, and a bit with SGU... but besides Stargate we don't meet truly strange mindfucking aliens along the way. I'd like to see a dark space opera series that made it a strict rule to never default to the old humanoid aliens with rubber vaginas glued to their foreheads standing in for extraterrestrial lifeforms.
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That's all I got.
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... Anyway. Nope. Don't dig the title. But whatevers. Sure the film will be moderately fun, like everything JJ does.
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and there are LENS FLARES in it!! Holy shit, this movie must suck!!!!
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The wacky is overcompensated by the real elements, which is why its the perfect blend of sci-fi. Trek doesnt have the same luxuary as its set in the future and that setting forces the premise to focus on down to earth familar cliched scenarios.
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Bunch of pretentious dickwads. That planet was just one giant starbucks.
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That of course is not clever. <p> But it was my clever spin on JJ not being clever. <p> It was doubly clever by not being clever itself. <p> Hey, I'm a genius like JJ.
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JJ is like a supreme intelligence.
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Sept. 9, 2012, 10:31 p.m. CST
Loser alt universe characters that hopefully get rebooted back normal someday.
by UltraTron
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKFOjfwlprM
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Sept. 10, 2012, 12:20 a.m. CST
Now with 45% less intelligence, character building or anything promoting the awe and wonder of scientific discovery!
by Mephisto the Great
Let's be honest - Gene Roddenberry saw Star Trek as a forum to blow stuff up, shoot cool things, yell at each other a lot (and call it drama), and otherwise run from point A to point B anywhere on the ship. Glad to see these films understand his vision. ;)
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No more time travel nonsense! No more parallel universe chicanery! Let stick to space and aliens.
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... of the original series were "The Devil in the Darkness" and "The Galileo Seven."
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Sept. 10, 2012, 3:59 a.m. CST
In classic Star Trek, the enterprise crew wouldn't rest until they remedied the time naormaly that caused their alt universe, save Vulcan and prevent destruction of Romulus
by albert comin
In Classic Star Trek, they would do everything in their power and beyond to repair the time break caused by Nero's reckelessness, they would prevent the destruction of Vulcan by time travel if possible, they would save the destruction of Romulus by also preventing the mega-supernova from reaching critical by putting the red matter in the safe oistanc eof the past, and they would even help Nero understand the error of his ways and help him achieve redemption. In Nu Star Trek, the heroes just resigned to their fate, and do the equivalent of patching up the problem by trying to kill the poor misguided soul who never truly understood what was really happening (the villain Nero). They never once atempt to adress the real causes and go for the souce of the problem, like the Classic Star Trek fellas would. In Nu Star Trek, the characters are some of the most passive characters i ever seen in the Star Trek universe. And that includes Spock Prime, who's supposed to be the same Spock from Classic Star Trek. What nonsense. The movie might be called Star Trek, but i saw little to no real Star Trek in it. The people who call it Star Trek In Name Only are right. You bet your sweet Jesus this is not my daddy's Star Trek. Nor it is mine either.
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...the writer's have obviously been at the Cake and are now suffering from 'Czech neck'... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SyurgZ8GaQ ...shit title.
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You want to bet that thnaks to the direct involvement of Damon Lindelof in the script of the new Nu Star Trek, the wonder of scientific discovery from Classic Star Trek will be replaced by the wonder of faith? You want to bet with me on that? I'm so certain we will get another thrust of faith for dummies in the next Nu Star Trek movie. Damon Lindelof just can't help but shove his obsessions about faith in every movie he's involved. It's as if he's addicted to it, it's as if he's a faith junkie. I think it's very sad that the newer generations cannot understand the wonders that science can provide, about the discovery of how the universe really is, and to construct fiction based on that. I'm from the generation that was inspired by "Cosmos", and Classic Star Trek matched that type of sense of wonder. Nu Star Trek is made for a generation who is inspired by shit blowing up and idiotic simplistic superticious interpretations of the subject of faith. Oh great!
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Sept. 10, 2012, 5:03 a.m. CST
@gmakin You might want to re-watch it, once more, with attention.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
Search for the term "flare" in these articles about Firefly: www.theasc.com/magazine/feb03/firefly/index.html www.examiner.com/article/defending-the-space-western-joss-whedon-s-firefly-as-slipstream-art-part-3
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Sept. 10, 2012, 5:04 a.m. CST
@gmakin You might want to re-watch it, once more, with attention.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
Search for the term "flare" in these articles about Firefly: theasc.com/magazine/feb03/firefly/index.html examiner.com/article/defending-the-space-western-joss-whedon-s-firefly-as-slipstream-art-part-3
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Sept. 10, 2012, 5:05 a.m. CST
Abrams obviously wanted to copy elements of
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
of the cinematography of Firefly.
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Those are every fine episodes indeed. Very good choice, sir. Personally i have a soft spot for "Ballance Of Terror" (probably my favorite) and "The Enemy Within". "City On The Edge Of Forever" is also extremely good. And there are many others which i could easily call favorites. The original pilot "The Cage" and the two part episode that inspired it ("The Menagerie") is also remarkable, and i really liked the official pilot episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before". There's some episodes of the much maligned 3rd series, like "All Our Yesterdays", "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" and "Is There in Truth No Beauty?", that i really like a lot. There's very little original Star Trek episodes i don't enjoy, really.
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Sept. 10, 2012, 6:34 a.m. CST
Put the trek back in. Trek somewhere we haven't seen. No romulans. No klingons. No Borg. No hortas. No tribbles. No blue antenna guys. No pig nose guys. No Kahn. Trek somewhere
by UltraTron
MOTHERFUCKER.
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It was just a western literally a western but in space. Thus devoid of originalty and any intellectual uniqueness about humanity in space as all there is a rehash of western themes superimposed into space milieu. Stargate is the opposite of that, it is intellectual honesty
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I think the tin foil he has wrapped around his head has cut off the circulation to his brain.
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Ever noticed how all the lame Star Trek movies lately (including parts from the new one) have all been shadowy this and dark that? Compare these movies to Khan and you don't need shadows and that sort of thing.
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Sept. 10, 2012, 7:07 a.m. CST
speaking of Into the Dark, i bet thats what every man has thought pre intercourse with Pam Grier
by Kain Michael Wyatt II
yes off topic, ban me if you have to.
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And what's more ironic is that tin foil is no longer made of tin (the name remained out of cultural inertia).
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I'd say those ST movies were half-dark. Not too dark. They didn't had the balls to truly go dark. And no, cinematography with lots of shadows and chiaroescuro light paterns alone do not a dark movie make.
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Why not just go for ultimate hack titling and call it RISE OF THE DARKNESS
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I enjoyed the last movie, but I'm slowly inching towards dislike from straying too far from real Trek. I still want a new one with TNG back in the game. They were given a shit deal with Nemesis and need one more at least.
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Read it, know it, live it. Doctor Who would be sci-fi Firefly/Serenity is sci-fi Just because Star Wars has spaceships doesn't make it sci-fi. It has no sci-fi McGuffin integral to the stories. ANH could be told as a western and still work... Star Wars is more of a western than anything.
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Uh no. TPM actually makes sense for a title, that is if you pay attention. The Sith were the "hidden" (phantom) menace (hidden/unknown threat).... dumb ass.
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cramming all of your comments into the title space...it looks dumb.
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Sept. 10, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST
Zod... Nemesis is now 10 years old. TNG ship has sailed.
by Autodidact
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Its just not as superfluous as Trek's archaic way of introducing scientific thinking like a PBS show lecture. Star Wars puts the story upfront with science being the ratlines. Thats why star wars has more depth to it and its far from being a western, its actually a combination of themes that lent it to become one of the most original looking movies we will ever see. Trek should be a documentary not a movie
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Sept. 10, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST
darthkong, remember Occam's Razor, and remember that religion echoes certain universals about the human condition...
by kidicarus
So if you see something that smacks of hidden religious symbolism, it'll usually be because the writers unconsciously did so, and because religious iconography is easy to communicate across a wide audience because of its universal themes.
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Not even George Lucas, the creator of SW, would agree with you. Don't try to fight a war you are bound to lose. It's like fighting gravity, it's an exercise in futillity. Sw is fantasy with some SF elemements. ST is SF through and through, one of it's purest examples. And by ST i mean Classic Star Trek, because i don't know what to call the Nu movie released in 2009.
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I have to agree with you on that. And added depth in SW was actually given by the much detested prequels and by the related tie-ins, books and games. The holy trinity of the original movie,s however, are blissfully depid of depth. Which is possibly one reason for it's smashing populatiry, a simple manichaeist story of pure hearted good versus total evil.
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Sept. 10, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST
Isn't Orci like the Candyman, where you need to say his name five times to summon him up?
by albert comin
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It seemed so obvious
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Sept. 10, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST
Star Wars has science, it just doesnt explain them
by dioxholsters_scion
And why does one need to explain how something works?? absolutly unnecessary. Its all about suspension of disbelief, and star wars does it masterfully
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If you take away the science from Star Wars he story can still be told. Take away science from Star Trek and there would be no Star Trek. That's the main distinction between SF and fantasy with SF elements stuff like SW.
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This week on a very special Star Trek Into The Darkness, Kirk finds a new hobby, and Spock rekindles an old love with Sulu...
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Take out the science part and its the same story. Take out Trek's sci-fi bits and it changes everything. Star Trek: TMP, III, 4, 5...could not be told without the sci-fi mcguffins... Star Wars has already been told in one form or another without the sci-fi bits as its based on archetypes and many familar forms of storytelling.
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Gadgets alone do not make a science-fiction movie, it's themes, motifs, statements...
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Give them a good story and watch the magic happen....the same was said before The Motion Picture was made so I don't buy that crap-ola.
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We have to wait every 3-4 years for a JJ movie that will likely stop at a trilogy anyways:/
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Sept. 10, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
Insurrection is on Netflix instant guys let's watch! Ok but I'm not that into star trek. Will it be queer as fuck? No waay! Star trek is about all kinds of manly shit. It'll be great..
by UltraTron
I wonder what kind of white wine might go with these chrysanthemums! Come out, come out wherever you arrre Mr Data..
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And JJ Abrams movie is not even proper Star trek, to make matters worst.
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Sept. 10, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST
By the gods man. Insurrection is so fucking horrible Abrams gets a life pass. Officially you can't bitch about his movie at all. Just take what they give you.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 10, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST
"Insurrection is so fucking horrible Abrams gets a life pass." No, because two wrongs do not make right.
by albert comin
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Sept. 10, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST
Oh no, was Chuck Norris right? Is there 1000 years of darkness in the future?
by kevred
Only in imaginary worlds like the one in his head, you say? Whew, thank goodness.
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that's pretty dark
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Sept. 10, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST
Look at it this way. Cameron is said to be a 33rd degree Freemason. And they love their TRIOM GODS. Look at the title of his first film. XENOGENESIS. Xeno Genes of Isis. Triom.
by Darth_Kong
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AND NOT TREKKY ENOUGH!!
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Nothing else matters.
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"XENOGENESIS. Xeno Genes of Isis. Triom." That's going too far. You just are wrong about that there, fella. "Xenogenesis" is composed of two greek words "xeno" and "genesis". together in one word it means "birth/origin of strange/foreign", with foreign substituted with "alien" as in the definition it as "extraterrestrial". I did happen to watch "Xenogenesis" and it's just a simple silly story about a couple who travel to a strange alien planet, they visit this alien structure and they meet a huge alien monster that wants to kill them and they fight it off. The movie has an earlier apearence of what would later be the powerload vs alien queen fight from "Aliens". The movie is heavily inspired by the "Heavy Metal" comics, to the point the earlier monts in the movie are in fact paintings done by Cameron himself because he had no budget to represent the earlier moments of the story otherwise. Yes, you can go hunting for hidden symbology in sl many thing sin life, but most often those symbology are there more out of rule of cool (they look cool) then deliberate mind control crap from some obscure mystical hidden millenarian conspiracy group.
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Sept. 11, 2012, 5:58 a.m. CST
Might as well call it "Return to Orci" for all I care. It's gonna suck
by Larry_Sanders
And no, Mr. Lens Flare does not get a pass just cuz Insurrection sucked. He gets a pass when he makes a movie anywhere near the best of Star Trek, and I just don't see that happening. ESPECIALLY with Robert "Lowest Common Denominator" Orci and Alex "Just In It For the Money" Kurtzmann.
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Sept. 11, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST
scirocco - I'm going to go a lot farther. Stay tuned. ;)
by Darth_Kong
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You forgot to mention Damon "Destroyer of The Alien Franchise" Lindelof, who is also a writer for the next Nu Star Trek movie, which means there will be an irrational obsession with shoving themes of faith in a story that has no need for.
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Sept. 11, 2012, 1:36 p.m. CST
You mean Benedict Cumberbatch is playing CHUCK NORRIS?!? O_o
by MrMysteryGuest
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ViggoM. as Dr. Strange in Thor 2 ????
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It sounds like they're leading the Trek franchise "into darkness"... which isn't a good thing. How could anyone involved in this film not see that immediately when this title was suggested? If brings to mind visions of the entire franchise being led into shitty scripts and production values. It's like naming your kid something that rhymes with an insult (i.e. why, in this day and age, would anyone name their kid "Dick"? You're just asking for him to be ridiculed his entire life). Same thing here. The title might as well be "Star Trek is Going to Suck From Now On". I'm *not* saying it *will* suck just because of the title, but certainly they should've and could've thought up something else. Bad decision (one of many for this sequel--I'm trying to stay optimistic but this film team has been making it very difficult). I hope this isn't true.
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