ScoreKeeper Turns Replicant And Enjoys BSX Records' New BLADE RUNNER Soundtrack!
Greetings! ScoreKeeper here hunting for replicants in my spinner and I'm hot on the trail of one that is particularly remarkable. If you're a fan of film music and have collected soundtracks over the years, chances are you have a copy (or five) of BLADE RUNNER (1982) in your collection. Over the years there have been plenty of different versions released; however, for a variety of reasons, none of them have been christened by fans as being the "definitive" edition.
There is an album featuring composer Vangelis' improvised arrangements of music from the film, a version featuring orchestral arrangements performed by the New American Orchestra, and even a 25th Anniversary edition featuring a whole glob of music of 3CDs, none of it really indicative of the original film cues as heard in the film. The history behind all the BLADE RUNNER soundtracks is a fairly muddled mess and because of that, fans have not positively responded in a manner deserving of this classic 80s score.
The good folks at BSX Records, spearheaded by producer Ford A. Thaxton, have taken it upon themselves to enter the BLADE RUNNER arena yet again and attempt a release far more "definitive" than previous versions. Ironically, Vangelis himself had nothing to do with this album (other than writing the original material) which could explain the album's faithfulness to the film.
BSX Records' release of BLADE RUNNER was produced and performed by Edgar Rothermich. Their source was the film itself. Rothermich reversed engineered the synth programming and faithfully recreated (miraculously I might add) the original score tracks as heard in the film. For those who have been unsatisfied with all the previous BLADE RUNNER editions, this has a good chance of winning you over. The album is extremely well done and most importantly, respectful to the original material. If you're a fan of the previous albums, this one may still be worth your attention as there is currently nothing like it on the market. As producer Thaxton quips, "Listen to the previous albums, then listen to ours and decide for yourself."
BSX Records has been releasing re-recordings of famous scores and individual cues for several years. I admit, I was not on board at first but a few key releases have turned me around. I loved their re-creation of Ennio Morricone's THE THING (1982) arranged and performed by Alan Howarth and even their modern re-imaging of Tangerine Dream's LEGEND (1985) is a welcomed addition to my collection. I'm a fairly staunch "original recording" sort of film music connoisseur so it's been a growing experience for me turning my ears toward these albums. The bottom line is they're quite good and as film music collectors, they're worth our attention.
"BLADE RUNNER is the most difficult kind of score to deconstruct," said BSX producer Ford A. Thaxton. "Symphonic music can usually be determined because the instrumental palette is known. But the 1970s-era electronic technology and the improvisational style in which Vangelis created the score made it especially difficult. But we feel Edgar's made a very close replication of what the score sounded like in the film. He's true to the sound the original but he's brought it into today's world."
"The objective from the very beginning was to be as close as possible to the original score as heard in the film," Rothermich said. "It was never a case of my interpreting the soundtrack. It was essentially a re-recording of the soundtrack music."
'm still an "original recording" kind of collector but as long as BSX continues to fill the holes of the market with quality recreations, I'll be an interested patron.
For more information regarding this release including audio samples check out BSX Records.
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Sept. 7, 2012, 9:44 p.m. CST
Sept. 7, 2012, 9:45 p.m. CST
Uh, yeah....unless it's by the original composer...as in performed by or conducted by....I'm not interested. It NEVER sounds the same to me. Pass.
Sept. 7, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST
Ah, well...almost anyway.
Sept. 7, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
Normally I would agree with you, but in this case THIS version sounds more like the real deal than any of the Vangelis produced albums.
Sept. 7, 2012, 9:58 p.m. CST
It's funny how that first Bladerunner soundtrack, sounds normal to me even though it's not the same as the film. Just played it so damn much!
Sept. 7, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
Dammit!! If you're going to reverse engineer a soundtrack.......do one that hasn't already been released at least 4 times!!
Sept. 7, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
by Keith Johnston
Hello all, I thought you Bladerunner fans would like to see how I re-edited a scene from Bladerunner. I do not make money off this, so give me a break and just check it out http://stoolsandgravy.tumblr.com/page/2
its right between christopher walken and john lithgow, where I wished to god I was.
Sept. 7, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST
by Bill C.
...and I kind of like it, at least as applied here to BR and _Legend_ (minus 'Is Your Love Strong Enough,' which just...no). Dammit, what's with AICN making me spend money this week? Stop it!
Sept. 7, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST
Sept. 7, 2012, 11:20 p.m. CST
I have the original Tangerine Dream "Legend" soundtrack on tape. Heard some samples from Buysountrax. Please do yourself a favor and stick to the original soundtrack.
This new stuff sound like crap. And the singer chosen to redo Bryan Ferry's "Is your Love strong enough?" is so bad it's laugable. Ugh! She has none of the pathos of Ferry's original vocals.
Sept. 7, 2012, 11:24 p.m. CST
*New American Orchestra* all over again. Will the rights issues ever resolve and give us an isolated scrore track? Maybe in 50, 60, 75 years?
Every soundtrack release is simply NOT the original soundtrack. Ludicrous.
Sept. 7, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST
by ames prather
A many years ago a friend of mine gave me a bootlegged copy of a recording of the soundtrack from Bladerunner from South America. I don't know if you've heard this or not, Scorekeeper, but it's pretty damn faithful to the original movie. There are torrents out there, find it and enjoy. ??Pseudo?? Out.
Sept. 8, 2012, 12:05 a.m. CST
The BR OST bootlegs cleverly say they are from all over the place. The best is the 'Gongo' release from (ahem) Romania. Someone really needs to grab Warner licensing by the gonads and finally crack this release (and THE SHINING, too).
Sept. 8, 2012, 12:35 a.m. CST
Coming from an OST purist standpoint as well.
Sept. 8, 2012, 1:15 a.m. CST
it's the subtle differences that pull me right out. i've got Off-World Records 20th anniversary "bootleg", and that's enough for me.
Sept. 8, 2012, 3:29 a.m. CST
by Righteous Brother
Mind you, I did have the *New American Orchestra* version on vinyl when I was a kid.
Sept. 8, 2012, 5 a.m. CST
What self respecting Blade Runner fan would buy a re-recording of someone else playing the music? Didn't We already..
by Baron Von Penguin
go through this with that awful symphonic New American Orchestra piece of shit in the 80s? If you're that desperate for more cues from the film just down load the Esper Edition of the soundtrack its got everything on it and its widely available on the net. I'm a huge John Barry fan and alot of his soundtracks were not available in the 1990s but Silva Screen released a load them that were re-constructed/re-recorded by other musicians. Although the intentions are well meant its just not the same and they always end up lacking bite and punch. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-Beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser gate. All those moments will be lost the second I hear some skonky reworking of a classic soundtrack by some fucker who had nothing to do with the original. Time to die.
Sept. 8, 2012, 5:24 a.m. CST
It's either Vangeis, or nothing. How about releasing the complete "Original" score, and be gone with all these limp-ass imitations. The score was a vital component to the atmosphere of the film, and this version just makes a mockery of such an innovative piece of synthetic greatness. No wonder Vangelis retired to the Greek hills...I would too if i listened to that
Sept. 8, 2012, 6:52 a.m. CST
sailing away to a certain bay...
Sept. 8, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST
by Bill C.
...normally the vast majority of those "new recordings" are utter crap (God, I think I have the New American Orchestra version somewhere <shiver> ). This at least is deliberately meant to sound as close to the original score as possible, which at least for me pushes it into interesting/curiosity territory rather than "Jesus help me make the pain stop!" territory. And that said, like aquanaut I thought I noticed a couple of fairly subtle/nitpicky differences in the samples as well. The good still outweighs the bad, though just watch--the full soundtrack will have some sort of singular quirk that'll put me right off it...
Sept. 8, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
Sept. 8, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST
by Anthony Rodriguez
OK, being a huge fan of the movie and the soundtrack, without Vangelis' involvement, this is neither definitive nor original. It's somebody's attempt to cash in on somebody else's work. Other than that, this whole piece reads more like a commercial and less like a piece of fan news. Two thumbs down.
Sept. 8, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST
@redshirt_24: I take your point. I shouldn't judge it till I've heard more than the samples provided.
by Baron Von Penguin
Sept. 8, 2012, 12:06 p.m. CST
I think it was the last Digital CD release of TOS. Think I'll listen to it this weekend.
Sept. 8, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST
Sept. 8, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST
This score has more boots than a shoe shop. I am surprised Vangelis hasn't released a definitive score release. I am talking the 7 and a half minute end credits and stuff like that...I know he released a 2 disc set a few years ago but I am talking no more extra discs with revised and new material...
Sept. 8, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST
to the original Vangelis! you must be deaf. I am passing this too.
Sept. 8, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST
He does... he doesn't give a rat's ass what fans of the BR score want. Twice he has had the opportunity to release a proper comprehensive score and twice he's fucked it up, mixing in dialogue and music not from the film itself. So don't say "Vangelis or nothing at all". Because Vangelis doesn't give a shit about what fans of his music want. It IS possible that one of the soundtrack labels may be able to negotiate with Warner and release the actual complete film score. It may be one of the last Film Score Monthly releases. Or LaLaLand works with many WB properties. But Warner's has Watertower Music now and they've been very clearly particular on what titles they'll license out these days. Or Vangelis himself may still be able to pull the plug on it. Much like Edgar Froese still seems to be able to deter the release of Tangerine Dream scores. So, kudos to BSX for trying to get the score back into the public's hands, even if it IS a rerecording. Their version of Carpenter & Morricone's The Thing was outstanding
Sept. 8, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST
That would be entertaining. JMS could do a running commentary on the soundtrack detailing points of musical interest that may have inspired key moments in Babylon 5, while Ford could claim that JMS is a liar and should be drawn and quartered for simply existing.
Sept. 8, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
Of disappointment. Tears in the rain and all that.
Sept. 9, 2012, 1:58 a.m. CST
...saved my money. Maybe he should have listened to the original on headphones while he was playing it. The timing of the notes is way off. Makes me grind my teeth together.
Sept. 9, 2012, 5:17 a.m. CST
Where you've heard the original so many times that a recreation of the music that's even slightly off is even weirder than a full-on orchestral interpretation...
Sept. 9, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST
I appreciate this post, the respect for the original and willingness to re-create a great soundtrack but I'll probably just go with the original.
by Mel Garga
iTunes is littered with re-recordings by entities such as the Prague Orchestra covering great soundtracks. They're close, but the fans, myself humbly included, can always detect the subtle differences. It's different from classical music in that we're not really looking for another conductor's interpretation. Just give us the stuff upon which is written, "from the original motion picutre soundtrack." Thanks
Sept. 9, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST
by Raptor Jesus
I'm just not buying re-do's with standard cd 16/44 anymore. Oh, and this score? It's good but not great.
Sept. 9, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST
The Esper edition (easily found online) is the most complete and definitive version of the soundtrack. What else do you want?
Sept. 10, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST
by Kain Michael Wyatt II
Sept. 10, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST
by Teddy Artery
I compared it to the movie and it falls short. The performance is different is subtle, but noticeable ways and the synths don't sound exactly like Vangelis'... also, the engineering sucks. Reverb and ambient sounds are wrong. Nope, I don't like it.
Sept. 24, 2012, 5:03 p.m. CST
Sounds incredibly good.
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