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New CLOUD ATLAS Trailer!
Nordling here.
I imagine that this movie is a particularly tough sell for Warner Bros. Multiple story strands and characters with various actors and actresses playing the same character in different times - and that's probably an oversimplification of what CLOUD ATLAS is all about. But for those of us who like challenging films CLOUD ATLAS looks like a seven-course meal. I can't wait to see it. And while this trailer isn't as effective as the extended one we got a few weeks ago, it's got enough new stuff in it to excite and intrigue. Here's the new trailer:
CLOUD ATLAS opens October.
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What more can they show?
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:01 p.m. CST
Rather watch Larry transform into Lana Wachowski in bullet time! :O
by cameron
Dats one fucked up dude-ette
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i love trailers where at the end you are like WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:02 p.m. CST
Reminds me (sorta) of THE FOUNTAIN trailer, only more convoluted.
by TheMcflyFarm
Of course the whole time jumping character concept did wonders for the box office of that movie...
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And the extended trailer got me majorly pumped. However, there's no middle ground here. It's either going to be awesome or awful.
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The less I see/know, the better. And I really dig that Halle Berry car accident shot.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST
I thought the original preview trailer was quite effective. Visually stunning, and more intricately woven than most full-length features. (Only fear afterwards was that the full film might not be as engrossing as its shortened version. I hope such doub
by ChaunceyGardiner
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST
The only meh thing about this flick is that Halle Barry is in it ...
by Judge Briggs
She's annoying. Up there with any of the cast members of Friends and Julia Roberts.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
If anyone from Aintitcool get to interview Lana or Andy W. - Please ask them to re-film Matrix 2 and 3
by Judge Briggs
Cause they blew monkey balls.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
Go retro sci-fi instead http://www.youtube.com/user/OTSOG2012
by Pat Grant
British retro sci-fi coming your way.
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'nuff said.
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transphobia is not cool. This trailer was sort of fun. I'm going to go look for the other one that was mentioned in the article.
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I thought the exact same thing while watching this. Looks like a trailer for The Fountain. The Fountain had only two people in three differant timelines. The very basic themes it contained of death and religion(ala a modernised version of the Frankenstein story), even with the romantic thruline to hold it all together, were too confusing for audiences. I don't see how this, an even busier version of that, can do well.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:18 p.m. CST
The more comparisons this thing gets to The Fountain the more leery I get.
by Wcwlkr
I loathed the Foutain that movie was AWFUL. So I hope this thing really is nothing like that convuluted nonsensical film.
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worked great in the 5 minute trailer
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST
This looks even worse than 'Speed Racer' is that's even possible
by Raptor Jesus
How can you make so many really bad movies and still get to make movies? If I fail I loose my job. When will these clowns loose their jobs?
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I'll give it a shot!
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I'm with you. The Fountain was complete and utter dog shit! I will never get that time back! :o(
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST
Epic, big, great actors.... But Oh MY God The Depressing tone has me ready slit my wrists
by Creative
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
That preview picture looks like an updated 'Buck Rogers' cityscape.
by Darth_Nader
Beedee beedee beedee.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
I liked The Fountain, but I don't need to see it a second time.
by Royston Lodge
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You know why? Because they're different films.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
So, will the Wachowskis actually show up for press interviews and the Premiere?
by Kamaji
For being such visionary filmmakers, they never seem to appear anywhere, which just keeps me thinking they can't possibly exist, but are the Keyser Soze's of these crazy film projects.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST
Not enough science fiction out the, the futuristic city scape bits look amazing, like a live action Akira...
by FreeBeer
...But the other segments? Not convinced. At the moment that story strand is the only one that interests me, but we'll see
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The novel consists of six nested stories that take the reader from the remote South Pacific in the nineteenth century to a distant, post-apocalyptic future. Each tale is revealed to be a story that is read (or observed) by the main character in the next.
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There was a poignant interview with, Lana,(formerly known as Larry) about his struggle with being a boy - and knowing that the only alternative for him instead of facing his family about it, would be to take his own life. She now has unanimous support from his friends and loved ones, and feels comfortable within herself...Good luck to the girl. As for the, "Cloud Atlas": It could be another philisophical meditation on life, a'la, "The Tree Of Life", or another example of their ingenious attempts with sci-fi. I for one had no love for, "The Matrix", but loved the hell out of, "The Matrix Reloaded" - a sci-fi masterpiece. Don't get me started on that freeway scene.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST
One for Ebert's movie cliches...the car crash seen from the interior of the vehicle...the trailer has TWO crashes..
by openthepodbaydoorshal
just how many movies and tv shows have used this, now, visual cliche? Just saw it in Safe the other night. I think the Bourne series has at least one per film. It may have started with HBO's Six Feet Under when the father's car was hit broadside by a bus....anyone have an idea?
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Sept. 6, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST
the novel was amazing. I doubt this film will do it justice.
by aramis2112
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but shame on you for attempting to spoil.
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I love the Matrix, But I enjoy Reloaded even more. Reason being- Most of it takes place in the Matrix, which is what the ending of the first alluded to. I don't hate Revolutions, but most of it happens outside the Matrix, which was disappointing. Don't get me started on the Freeway scene. Put that part on, crank up the sound. Fucking brilliant stuff. And I applaud Lana, for doing her thing. Especially, in a spotlight. Fuck everyone else, live your life!
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Cronenbergs' Crash?
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Sept. 6, 2012, 2:19 p.m. CST
@openthepodbaydoorshal i believe you are right about the crash cliche
by bs9999
If i recall i think Six Feet Under was the first to introduce it. I had a few other movie possibilities but after investigation i found they were made later.
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that's because you're gay
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This movie is just all over the place. I don't think is going to transition well into a movie - it seems like it is all over the place.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 2:35 p.m. CST
Does anyone know if it follows the same structure as the books?
by theGoldbergV
SPOILERS Will it have half of each story first, then the full post apocalyptic one, then the second half of each story, ending where it started in the South Pacific? I would how so, because cutting between all the stories would be craziness. Of all of them it's Somni-451 that I'm most looking forward to.
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Obviously
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Cronenbergs' Crash?
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but this just feels like it's going to end up being some virtual reality simulation in varying timelines so the two hearts can get together, or it's purgatory - but not as terrible as what dreams may come
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Only simpletons would think it is.
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Speed Racer was fantastic. The matrix sequels are flawed but there's nothing else quite like them. Show me another summer film as smart as Matrix Reloaded. Cloud Atlas was no cake walk to make or get funding for. They continue to take risks as film makers who want to blend entertainment with deeper philosophical ideas. And their script for V for Vendetta was fantastic.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST
phantom - you may be right, but its been forever since I've seen Crash.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
Hell, Spader was even thin. Okay, that was mean.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 3:25 p.m. CST
Will Lana become a Lesbo for a minute then change back into a man a la Mr. Garrison?
by kindofabigdeal
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Sept. 6, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST
Woooo- still get chills when that wachowskis credit pops up. I say 3 wachowskis are better than 2 anyways.
by UltraTron
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So far only Speed Racer bombed, and fuck you that film was awesome! I'm always down with the Wachowski Brothers. And yes, they will always be Brothers. 'Sex changes' don't change your sex nor the reality of who you are. This is the real world, not the Matrix. You don't have the power of creation at your disposal. I do feel sorry for anyone who has a psychological problem accepting their gender. Hope and pray Larry gets himself back together again. That's the support he needs, but many are too lazy to do things that way because it's more difficult and that requires some actual work and effort in dealing with people and the fact is that we increasingly don't care about people enough to put up with it as we live comfortably with our own faults knowing backhandedly that there's always someone more screwed up than we are, as if that gives us any cover. Anyway, now that we have all got our social worldviews out of the way, this film looks awesome, and I liked the Fountain. The Wachowskis are also in that Side by Side documentary by Keanu Reeves alongside Cameron and Scorcese and other filmakers talking about the future of film. Looks like interesting stuff.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST
For better or for worse, this film's NOTHING like The Fountain
by Winston Smith
It's a lot like... well, have you read the book? It's also not too serious, in fact my main problem with it is some of the humor (especially in the modern day sequence) is very slapstick and out of place with the tone of other sections of the film. Parts of Cloud Atlas really reminded me of Waking Ned Devine, as well. I doubt the film's a hit, but it would be great if it is... not even that it's a perfect masterpiece, but just, big idea films like this that take a lot of chances deserve to be rewarded. There's a lot of great character moments, some wonderful editing, some amazing shots, and as a whole I think Cloud Atlas will have a lot of rewatchability.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST
Bicentennial Man was supposed to be epic. Remember how that one worked out?
by sweeneydave
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No, it intercuts between them for the whole of the film. But it works. It never cuts in the "middle" of a scene, so to speak. It has a scene that pushes the plot forward, then the next scene, and as it builds up we get some great montage moments that connect everything together. The editing is a high-light of the film, I'd say. It completely works, and the feel and tone of the editing is not unlike the extended trailer. If you liked the extended trailer you should love the movie. If you hated it, well, depends why you hated it. If it's cause you weren't sure what was going on, the feature doesn't have that problem. It's all very clear when you get to the end what happened and who is who. If you hated the tone or visual look or the music, well, then I doubt you'll like the finished film. But if you're on AICN, that means you like ambitious big budget film projects, right? You should like Cloud Atlas. I would be SHOCKED if this doesn't get mixed reviews, though. Seems like it'll be a love it or hate it movie, less like The Fountain and more like, say, Boyle's Sunshine.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST
re: "And yes, they will always be Brothers. 'Sex changes' don't change your sex nor the reality of who you are."
by buggerbugger
How utterly fucking ignorant.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST
knowthyself, are you kidding?! Matrix Reloaded was mind-numbing dreck. A part of me died while watching that park fight scene. I'm glad you like it, but why?
by The Krypton Kid
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I thought it was one of the few redeeming scenes in the film and granted I haven't watched reloaded in years I think it stands. Other then your penchent for hyperbole I'd like to know why you hate it so.
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...or an interpretation/re-imagining of reincarnation along with a dose of karmic debt despite the inherent shortcomings in the concept of karma. Still gonna see it. Looks like it'll be an interesting flick. Yeah, I may disagree philosophically, but I will still see this movie.....damn, that shit rhymed a LOT. I need a drink. mt
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I'm never driving on a bridge again. My stomach literally sank during that shot, it felt so real. Scary stuff. The Wachowski's have always been great with the visuals tho. Let's see if they can hold a comprehensive narrative together for the first time in a while.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
..Just looks like a lot of eye-popping shots and overly-sentimental moments that don't tie together and culminate to one of those "you decide what it means."
by Ali Kerim Bey
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I'm all for cerebral film, but something about this is so heavy handed I'm feeling put off. And blonde Tom Hanks looks silly.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST
phategod, becuase it had no emotion. It was just stiff choreography that was over-long and ultimately redundant.
by The Krypton Kid
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Of course I mean, the real one; not the one they just shoved down the delegates' throats yesterday.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST
I think what johnno meant to say is "they will always be siblings, sex changes may change the body not the reality of who you are."
by openthepodbaydoorshal
Of course, we're getting into the area of what defines gender. Is it based on equipment or genes...
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It's absolute ignorance like that that makes people like LANA feel that suicide is the only escape. Having a sex change doesn't change who you really are? You're right, it allows people to BE who they actually are. And no, I'm not transgender, just a die hard supporter of anyone trying to live up to their full potential and survive this shithole of a planet we find ourselves on. Cloud Atlas - looks fantastic, can't wait!
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I love "The Matrix" and am happy the Wachowskis exist in the world. They bring a thoughtful, kinetic, risk-taking approach to any material they handle. Haven't read "Cloud Atlas," but that trailer got my attention. Plus, Tom Tykwer is directing it? Fuck, yeah! Love that guy's work. This could a pretty damn good film.
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Wachowskis I think have shown that they can handle multiple, complex storylines pretty well. They did this with huge emotional force in V for Vendetta, Speed Racer and the first two Matrix movies. As long as they can manage all of them well enough and keep the tone that we're seeing in the trailers, it'll be an awesome movie.
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I think most of that movie was about effect, fight choreography, and stunts more then action but The Matrix franchise didn't fall apart for me, till half way though the 3rd act in Reloaded the instant we meet the Colonel Sanders look a like the the franchise falls apart.
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Let me Repeat what you Said: phategod, becuase it had no emotion. It was just stiff choreography that was over-long and ultimately redundant. by the krypton kid Bullshit. That is one of the best cgi scenes ever made, and most definetlely reperesents what the Matrix is all about. Did you not see the first film? All of the things MorPheus says to Neo? Neo Flying off at the end of the movie, Like Superman? That scene fully represents what the Matrix IS. Stiff Choreography? NO. Redundant? NO. You sir, are full of doo-doo.
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Nicely Said. Kudos to You. And by Kudos, I'm referring to the Dreamcast game Metropolis Street Racer. The precursor to Project Gotham Racing :)
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Better known as the Burlyman sequence. This has probably been beat to death but, in a nutshell, it served no purpose within the structure of the movie. It was one of those "wouldn't it be cool if we did this" type scenes. In the first draft of the screenplay(before it was split into two movies) the fight had a purpose. Smith was trying to stop Neo from getting access to the architect. That purpose got lost in the subsequent re-writes and the scene was kept soley for its cool factor. Agent Smith approaches Neo, for no particular reason, and starts a fight with him. Then, Neo, for no particular reason, fights him--until he(and the audience) gets bored and flies away. The fight was presented in very dodgy and unconvincing CGI. Nuff said about that. Now you might say that this was simply a learning experience for Neo wherein he gained the knowledge that 100 Smiths could not defeat him. Two glaring problems with that premise. You have just affectively nullified any real threat that Agent Smith presented to Neo halfway thru the trilogy. Secondly, this "lesson" was rendered meaningless by the climactic battle at the end of the third movie--where Neo fights one Agent Smith and loses. Not only was this a shite scene that served no structural purpose in the story being told, it actually damaged what little integrity the movie as a whole had.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST
Re-incarnation must be a thing, because I feel like I've seen this movie before about a thousand times.
by Joey Stars
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it will be remarkable. But I worry that the subtleties of the book's themes will be lost. There are allusions to reincarnation, yes, but it's as much or more about fate, free will, synchronicity, evolution, imperialism -- and that's just for starters. I hope all that doesn't get steamrolled by Hollywood stars in a succession of elaborate wigs. And I join with openthepodbaydoorshal and others in calling for a movie moratorium on the whole car-gets-t-boned-spinny-POV-shot thing. Been done to death and not at all interesting or startling anymore. That said, the movie looks ambitious, and I hope it lives up to it's origins.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST
The Wachowskis should be given Justice League
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
They will certainly be able to pull off better action sequences than Nolan.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST
This is tyhe kind of thing the most elitist among you always say you want...
by Playkins
So you god damned better go see it. And no, I'm not saying you want this exact plot, or actors, or setting.. I'm saying you all gripe about nothing original and everything being lame "Bay" or "Bruchheimer" movies. So if this doesn't do well, you can suckit. Asimovlives, I'm looking at you.
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Both his and yours are based on opinion but at the time that fight sequence was a technical acheivement. It during the time of "puppet CGI" it was the best example and was groundbreaking at the time. As far as the purpose of the scene I think it was more about Agent Smith showing that he's still around, he has new abilities and is a definate threat to Neo, as no-one actually "won" the fight and by the time of the Rematch in revolutions, Smith had consumed The oracle, and theoretically, Col. Sanders, The merovingian and every program, and person in the Matrix, which is the reason he was variably stronger in the second fight. I believe it was Col Sanders (I cant remember the obligatory name of the character) and his revelation that this had all happend before and will happen again, is what destroyed the franchise. Was Neo a clone? how many times? Why does "The One" always look the same? What happens If I kill you and the oracle? a ton of plotholes all opened in one fell monolouge.
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That was the first time I ever saw the "Car crash from inside the car" type scene.
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Because last trailer was what, 80 minutes long?
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If you pay Attention, that scene is where Agent Smith starts to duplicate himself. Now this happens with other programs, but this is the first time that his own program is duplicated this many times. Other programs can become and copy other people in the Matrix, but they have never been self-aware and duplicate themselves. He doesn't know his own strength, as the same with his duplicates, at this point. Just as Neo. This is where he realizes that Neo is Stronger than him. Even other Agents change, as in the Freeway chase scene and others, but Smith becomes an Anomoly, just like Neo. IN the last movie, he has learned and incorporated all of these duplicates and made himself smarter and stronger in the end fight. The others are just back-up because he is afraid that this human Neo is going to defeat him. He literally has streets full of replicas as back up now, but he and Neo are both more powerful. We are talking human brain against a computer program. The park scene is a crux of the entire trilogy. You did watch all the Matrix films?
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If your attention span is short that you get your panties in a wad over a 5 minute trailer, then your opinions matter very little on movies. Go watch Bayformers if you have a hard time paying attention to something thought provoking, you can laugh at how the transformers have balls even though their machines. The first Cloud Atlas trailer is one of the best trailers I have ever seen. I hope the movie lives up to how good the trailer was.
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It's a glitch in the Cloud Matrix! Seriously though, this looks pretty cool. The long trailer was too much, so I stopped halfway through for fear of the whole damn plot being shown. This shorter trailer is pretty darn effective though. If anything, while the story could turn out to be convoluted, the visuals that Tom Tykwer and the Wachowskis can bring to a movie are reason enough to see this. Also, the futuristic cityscape stuff reminds me of some of the cityscape imagery in The Animatrix. Mainly the parts in The Second Renaissance, before the humans and machines go to war. Also, part of the fun of this is going to be seeing Tom Hanks in a (sort of) sci-fi film. Not a lof of people know that Hanks is a big fan of the science fiction genre, and has tried to get other sci-fi film projects going in the past (Arthur C. Clarke's 3001 for instance). Which doesn't surprise me as I recently read in an interview that Hanks' favorite film is 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST
Liked the longer trailer better, but this trailer was for ADD Americans
by Jt
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I can't speak for others, but I was turned off the 5 minute trailer because I didn't want to know too much about the film's plot before actually seeing the damn thing in the theater. Plenty of 1.5 to 2 minute trailers give away a film's entire plot these days. A 5 minute trailer seems excessive unless the filmmakers are trying to give us a Cliff Notes version of the whole movie. To me, less is more with trailers. Hell, for anticipated sequels, I prefer a good teaser trailer that barely shows anything of a film's plot. I'll probably check out the 5 minute Cloud Atlas trailer after I see the film though.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
you make a good point lv_426, but the subject matter with this movie...
by Jt
is much deeper than your average movie. So the long trailer really may not be giving too much away. The problem with trailers that give to much away is not the trailer running time, but what they show. To many trailers show pivotal climatic scenes in the trailer, so that takes away from the enjoyment when you see the movie because it's already been shown to you. The purpose of a trailer is show you enough to make you want to see the movie, not know the whole entire plot summed up in the trailer
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Sept. 6, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST
who the fuck thought Bicentennial Man was going to be epic? If you did your the biggest dumbass ever
by Jt
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Sept. 6, 2012, 8:15 p.m. CST
phantomcreepsreturns, count me as a guy who doesn't like cold, emotionless, robotic, over-choreographed action, despite how appropriate it might be to the tone of the film. Reel Steel had robot combatants, but the fights had grit and emotion. And don't
by The Krypton Kid
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Sept. 6, 2012, 8:15 p.m. CST
And don't take that as me saying Real Steel is a great film. Though it is a fun one.
by The Krypton Kid
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I think it maybe goes on too long, but in and of itself it is a fun scene. I like the first film the best, but I do like the sequels as well. Actually, I'm a bit more fond of Revolutions than Reloaded. Both are really just one big Matrix sequel though. If anything, The Matrix Trilogy is The Matrix (cyberpunk superhero origin story), Reloaded and Revolutions (apocalyptic cyberpunk epic), and The Animatrix (anime prequel anthology film). Back to the burlyman stuff in Reloaded... The thing about that scene that holds it together, along with what you say, is that Agent Smith has become a virus. This ties back to the first film, where he taunts the captured Morpheus: *I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.* Now, Smith and the agents are supposed to be un-emotional and deadly efficient minions of order who do the bidding of the machine overlords that control the matrix. As the first film progresses, Smith starts to become more human. He gets angry, he spouts his own philosophies, and revels in beating the crap out of Morpheus. In the film's final act Smith is cocky about how he will defeat Neo. This is another reflection on Smith in that he underestimates Neo, and thus maks another human assumption/mistake in his job as an agent. So in a sense Smith, who earlier in his Morpheus taunting monologue says *he hates this place* in reference to the matrix, becomes human and thus what he hates. Then in the sequels he copies and pastes himself all over the place inside the matrix, like a virus. Smith has become the human virus that he states is something he despises in the first film. Not only that, but the shape of the lenses of Smith's sunglasses in the sequels were supposedly designed to look like a viral cell. At this point I'm rambling a bit, but I think Smith is a fascinating character. In a way, he is one of those great villains in a suit, like a cyberpunk Gordon Gekko that punches stuff (sorry, Wall Street has been on a lot lately). Speaking of Wall Street, the one big trick they missed in the Matrix sequels was not showing a glitch in the matrix where all the green text stock market ticker displays switched to the code of the matrix or something along those lines. That and maybe showing Neo in the matrix doing his superhero stuff, followed by the reactions of the average people still plugged into the system. So yeah, the Matrix sequels aren't perfect, but there are lots of cool things about them that gel in the grand scheme of the saga when you think about them. I think maybe the Wachowskis went a bit overboard and made the sequels a bit too dense. Still though, they are fun and better than a lot of sequels and trilogies end up turning out.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 8:55 p.m. CST
Hope the karma of the Wachowski's personal stuff hasn't pushed them over the line thematically
by even9
I like the sentimentality of their previous Matrix's & Speed but they were very close or maybe just a tad bit polemic but never enough to seriously detract from their general thematics That is perhaps assuming they would be fortunate enough to receive instant karma, which is a slightly less gratifying notion relating to karma lol Yeah, the Matrix reloaded, while not quite the same instant gratification of The Matrix, that film's a dozy - starts off with a dream and ends with the architect......F@%K!!!
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A cold and robotic fight, yes. Which is funny, because that's kind of what it's supposed to be. Overconfident Neo versus frighteningly overconfident, viral Smith, inside the cold computer world of The Matrix, duking it out to destroy each other. I somewhat agree with you, krypton kid, about the scene's lack of emotional force. The first few times I saw it, as the fight intensified I wanted Neo or Smith to clench their teeth, bellow, and "go dirty." Sort of like John Murdoch versus Mr. Book did at the end of "Dark City." But thinking about it, that fight's just the opening round of a much larger scenario. So if the fight DID go jaw-clenching dirty, it might have set up a less harrowing final showdown. I don't know. I'm pretty much in agreement with lv_426 about The Matrix sequels not being as good as the first movie, but I still enjoy watching them once in a while.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST
I think the Wachowski's would do a great dark Han's Christian type children's fairytale film or series
by even9
just saying
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Perhaps it might have been a good movie.
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Give today's audiences lots of eye candy and merely a vague plot description and you'll get lots of asses occupying seats opening weekend. How the movie fares after that will depend on the movie itself, how well done it is, etc.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST
I would have shit a perfect cube if they had made Tron legends or whatever the fuck
by UltraTron
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Also Transformers.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 9:17 p.m. CST
The music in the fight intensifies in perfect rhythm with the fight intensity. It's the greatest superhero battle yet done.
by UltraTron
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Hot damn they had their work cut out for them with this film adaptation. Anecdotally, I don't think they're going to have any trouble filling seats; I was reading the book while I was on a jury selection, and two other jurors asked me if I was going to see the movie. So, awareness is out there.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 9:25 p.m. CST
So any critique you have goes out the window right away because you don't have an example of better to point too. Show me the better R rated sci-fi trilogy where
by UltraTron
mankind battles for his fate against machines with everything at his disposal. Increasing his knowledge to that of a machine in order to accomplish this. Fighting at the height of human psysical motion through every combat style. Show me this. Show me something that is yards better. I'd love to see it. Been waiting since morons first started in on reloaded. Ow you didn't like the architect? Well you look like a bucket of shit. Did you know that? That's because normal healthy people have normal fucking opinions and know what the fuck is going on. No offense to disabled people I'm talking about you deliberately fat smoking, sweaty- just soaking into the cushions with sweat and..
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What a pair of sanctimonious, self-serious actors. Hanks made "Thomas Crowne," which should've been a fun romp, into a chore to sit through.
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The book, at any rate, was about as far from sentimental as a book can get till one ventures into Chuck Palahniuk territory. It is brutally depressing, with sharp and uncomfortable observations about the human condition alongside humans behaving very badly towards one another. Thematically, the book is a riff on many ideas in Nietzsche's corpus. Especially eternal return/eternal recurrence, the Will to Power, suffering (phenomenological) vs. sin (metaphysical), predation and revolution. Given the Wachowskis' predilection for philosophy, I don't doubt most of it will end up in the film, so you best read up on your Nietzsche, boys and girls.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 9:29 p.m. CST
funny how prophetic The Matrix seems a dozen years later...
by sonnyhooper
.....the only thing they got wrong was the idea that the machines would turn on us and enslave us. turns out the human race was all too willing to jump in the pod and plug themselves in all by themselves. <p> just think how much the world would go to pieces if our virtual reality of facebbok and twatter and all that other shit was taken away from us?
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http://truthaboutmatrix.com/
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....that there was a trial going on and she sued Companies for their stealing of her own material.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/matrix.asp
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Sept. 6, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
I just found the article by accident...Jesus Christ crucify me right now!!
by barry_lyndon
:) This internet is a funny thing. One link leads to another... what's the fuss about?
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The 6-minute trailer *was* awesome, and really you need that time to sell a story this convoluted, but the reason they gave us this pared-down version of what we saw last month is because, per MPAA guidelines, any trailer longer than 2 minutes and 30 seconds cannot be played in a theater: http://www.soundtrack.net/trailers/ ...so you may want to dial back the "ADD American retards" rhetoric a bit.
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...look like Minority Report, Total Recall-remake, Blade Runner... ....and mostly METROPOLIS.....why get in a fuss over a woman?!?!
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Sept. 6, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST
First trailer seemed about humanity as a huge social Rube Goldberg device
by pax256
This one seems to be about reincarnation... maybe its both?
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....DARK CITY which shits diarrhea on The Matrix. :D :D Far more sophisticated films have been made about reincarnation. RED VILOIN and THE FOUNTAIN Both films have been shitted on, but they are intelligent, superior and mature.
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Sept. 6, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST
Didn't Robin Williams make a movie like this? Where he lived in different time periods?
by Orionsangels
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Sept. 7, 2012, 2:27 a.m. CST
The Fountain and Cloud Atlas seem to have similarities in the theme of reincarnation (although I haven't read the book so I might be wrong)
by lv_426
Still though, it is going to be hard to top one of my favorite flicks that tackles death, reincarnation, immortality, etc... ZARDOZ
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Tom Tykwer directed half of the film. Perfume was really good and is imo an underrated gem of a film. Tykwer's german films are mostly great as well. Anyway, really looking forward to this and it's one of my most anticipated films this year along with the Hobbit and Skyfall.
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... back in March at a test screening. Wasn't sure what to expect having not then read the novel, but understood it to be pretty complex. I was fully engaged throughout its runtime... it's completely bonkers and not anything like anything I'd seen before and when it was done I knew I'd liked it... even my girlfriend remained awake which is a testament to how intriguing the movie was. We found ourselves still discussing the movie up to 2 weeks later in some depth, so it really stuck with us. In the end, I really can't wait to go back and see it again. it works. I'm reading the book now and although it's about 90% there in the movie, it treats it differently. That first trailer, all the inter-cutting, different narrations over different stories, all intermixed... that's your movie right there. Hope you all enjoy it!
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Only just found out the UK won't get this til March 2013. That sucks.
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Sept. 7, 2012, 5:53 a.m. CST
creepythinman! You have almost been acting like a smart respectable person lately. Is that really you? I've missed you.
by Nichole
All Kidding aside, I really need to watch Crash again. Haven't seen it since renting on VHS. I love you, Creepythinman. Member, that time we purposely got banned? Good Times. Cloud Atlas looks pimp.
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Was it such an early screening that you think they might change things? Or, were there things you thought they should change?
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Sept. 7, 2012, 6:15 a.m. CST
I'm sure there are things they could probably change, but...
by David Franklin
...I'd rather they didn't cut a frame. And going by the expected runtime it sounds like it'll remain intact. Post-production was pretty complete too as far as I could see, all but one VFX shot was complete, the music was all there too... and seeing Halle Berry as a white woman, Hugo Weaving as a woman and Tom Hanks as a cockney... bwughargh!!! Brain broken!
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...here's the theme for the film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFDeHRc3agY
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I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that this doesn't hit me with loads of groan moments, because so far the trailers look pretty great.
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Tom hanks is just Tom Hanks.. not the person he is playing. And I hate Halle Berry.
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hopeless. let that be a lesson to you all.
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Sept. 7, 2012, 7:36 a.m. CST
This shit-ass site needs a message forum with the ability to filter out anal fissures like Ultratron
by ScriptCunt
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I think I get the general premise, though. If this movie was connected in any way to reality, it might help me explain that eerie sense of deja vu I experience almost daily. Best get reading, then.
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...the visuals, especially of that future city (including the chase sequence), do not look convincing, let alone overwhelming. After the dismal SPEED RACER and the underwhelming MATRIX sequels, I lost all faith in the Wachowskis...
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Sept. 7, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST
motoko, I think the city scape doe's look pretty amazing. Cleary CG, of course, but the design is beautiful
by FreeBeer
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Sept. 7, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST
As a sci-fi fan, it's strange how unappealing this movie looks
by 2soon2eat
Maybe I prefer a strong central character. I dunno...this film looks pretentious and painfully self aware.
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Sept. 7, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST
Hopefully you're still in a position to turn it around. Get a treadmill and quit smoking. Learn how to eat a healthy diet. Not rocket science.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 7, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST
Liked Crash. Took a date. Read the protest from coppola before going in. Coppola was being a little bitch.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 7, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST
Also scriptcunt- you don't need a treadmill. Just do some Gillian Micheals 20 minute fat burn stuff. Try some high knees and stuff.
by UltraTron
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tron vs grand canyon....... this movie is going to suck and blow.... this just in rednecks drink budweiser then puke on themselves.
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Sept. 7, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST
Being human was the robin Williams one with torturro. Hope this is better.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 7, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST
The fountain is a masterpiece. No screen character has loved that obsessively since Dracula banged reincarnated Mina
by UltraTron
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Spoiler, I guess --- We can blame the trailer and ads, I suppose, but I fail to see how anyone viewing the full movie can think it is about immortality or reincarnation or anything similar. It's a fairly straight-forward tragic love story. The immortality thread is strictly from the wife's writings, and presented to convey a message about life and love. I assume the hatred of The Fountain is largely based on false expectations and miscomprehension. I found it a very moving and skillfully made film, myself.
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Sept. 7, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST
Fountain is the best sci/fi love story since Vger mated with Decker.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 7, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST
I love you so much bitch that on the day I discovered immortality you died and I saved your DNA in the hopes I could
by UltraTron
bring it to a nebula to rebirth it. Course I'll have to live countless centuries first. Until such time as I have a space-ship bubble to bring your preserved hybrid/immortality tree DNA to said nebula in the hopes that a supernova can reignite it. I'll pass the centuries away marking them down in tattoo rings like the rings of a tree you bitch.
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Sept. 7, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST
At the end of all things I'm possibly the last man alive in my bubble ship of galactus level technology. All because of you.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 7, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
Oh believe me they have to shave like you wouldn't believe just to get down to that muff level.
by UltraTron
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Sept. 7, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
Well we had to. In my case I shaved completely clean 3 days prior.
by UltraTron
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This was one confusing trailer, so let's just add the Dark Knight theme to familiarize it!
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Sept. 7, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST
Why does everyone forget that SF/sci-fi is all about great ideas and not just spaceships and robots?
by foles
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Sept. 7, 2012, 11:50 p.m. CST
Ok so anyone paying attention. The site deleted creepy thin's post that I responded to about the muff thing. Yeah. Yeah it's pretty strange actually.
by UltraTron
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Have you read the book? The story set in a futuristic Korea is shameless imitation of Blade Runner. Complete biologically engineered human-like androids named... now wait for it... Fabricants!
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Sept. 7, 2012, 11:52 p.m. CST
I guess it's in an effort to stay on topic. I just get really freaked out with selective censorship.
by UltraTron
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For the past year I've been working on a fan edit of "The Matrix Reloaded," which combines scenes from the theatrical film, the video game, and the Animatrix shorts. Plus it incorporates a non-linear structure. You can view a clip on YouTube here: http://youtu.be/lufVSaGEh6Y
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But from what I see in this trailer, I'm stoked.
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This looks extremely good - looking forward to it :) However, the Matrix sequels were so bad they made me want to eat my own feet. They should have given us a heads up and called them: The Matrix 2: The Quickening & The Matrix 3: The Quickening 2
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I'm intrigued by your comments about the screenplay for the original one-part Matrix sequel. Any chance you could post a link?
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