The Infamous Billy The Kidd Chats With Dominic Monaghan About His New Film THE DAY, The Ending Of LOST, FLASHFORWARD And THE HOBBIT
You probably know Dominic Monaghan in one of two ways - either as Merry Brandybuck, fellow Hobbit and close friend of Frodo Baggins, in Peter Jackson's epic trilogy adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's THE LORD OF THE RINGS, or as Charlie Pace, part-rock star, part-heroin addict and part survivor of Oceanic Flight 815 on ABC's hit television series LOST.
In Doug Aarniokoski's THE DAY, Monaghan shifts from peripheral member of the pack to the leader of it as Rick, the decision maker of a group of friends still managing to survive the odds in a post-apocalyptic world. The role suits Monaghan well, as the take-charge demeanor of his character seems to be a more natural fit for him than just walking around, taking care of a baby on a mysterious island.
I had the opportunity to chat with Dominic recently about THE DAY, and specifically some of the twists and turns that come up along the way regarding his character (so beware spoilers ahead), but we were also able to get into his feelings, or lack thereof, on the ending of LOST, the quick demise of FLASH FORWARD and his potential participation in THE HOBBIT, now that Peter Jackson is extending his two-part approach into a trilogy. Enjoy.
The Infamous Billy The Kidd: Dominic, how are you?
Dominic Monaghan: Good, man. How are you?
The Kidd: I’m doing all right. I’m sure you’re winding down nicely now.
Dominic Monaghan: Oh no, we’re still going. I’m now going to Santa Monica for some interview down there for a couple of hours, so no, we are in the zone.
The Kidd: Okay, well let me start off first... I want to ask you about LOST, because I was a huge fan of the show. You had six seasons of it and watching it kind of live as it went, I think. It was like lost for people who catch up with it on DVD, because you had that week in between to debate what was going on. It had this enormous fan-base that was incredibly devoted to the show. Are you satisfied with how the series ended up and do you think that the destination justified the journey?
Dominic Monaghan: I didn’t see the ending. I was working at the time and obviously I was filmed in it and I know how it ended, but I was working at the time. I was in New York making a film and I didn’t really want to watch the ending, because I didn’t want to get back into that “LOST world” if you pardon the pun, because I was already in a completely different world with a different character. So I didn’t see it.
The Kidd: So to this point are you still in the dark as to how it was received and how people took it along the way?
Dominic Monaghan: No, no... I know how it was received, because people would talk to me about it all of the time and I know what they shot, so I know how they shot the ending. I just didn’t personally expose myself to the ending.
The Kidd: Okay. Along the way with Charlie, when you kind of left the show there was a lull in his character for awhile and then ultimately he got to have this heroic redemption. Was that important for you to wrap up the character that way before you left LOST?
Dominic Monaghan: And that was the only way that I was going to be in any way satisfied with my contribution to that show. I found myself getting a little frustrated with holding the baby and relapsing into different drug situations and I sat down with Damon Lindelof, who is a fantastic writer, and he said “Look, we found a way to have you be in the show a little bit more, but it involves you leaving the show.” It kind of took me down that pathway and I thought “This is going to be the best opportunity that I’m going to get to really leave my mark on that show.” I was happy with how that transpired. It also got be a chance to go off and do stuff. I could never have done WOLVERINE if I hadn’t left LOST. I could never have ben in that Eminem music video if I had never left LOST, so sometimes you think “It would have been nice to stay,” but then if you stay other doors and opportunities close up.
The Kidd: It was a show that many now try to copy the model of. Every year you hear “This might be the next LOST” or “That might be the next LOST” and nobody has been able to duplicate what LOST did. FLASH FORWARD I thought was the closest in terms of this giant puzzle of genre television and it only lasted one season and a lot of people blame it on the scheduling and the hiatus that it had. Do you think the show got a fair shake and that it got enough time to find its footing for something so complex?
Dominic Monaghan: Well no, not really. I think it was written well and I think it at least deserved to have a second season. There were a lot of very mediocre shows on at that point that I don’t think were anywhere near as good or had as good a cast as FLASH FORWARD did, but there was a big shake up at ABC, the network that showed it, and a lot of shows were getting dropped and a lot of new shows were being made and I think that’s something unfortunately we were a casualty of at that particular time. I know a lot of people have a hard time with the fact that it only lasted one season. They wanted to see more and they are constantly asking me when it’s going to be back on TV. So it was a show that lasted a short amount of time, but burned kind of brightly, you know?
The Kidd: So let me talk to you about THE DAY. One of the scenes that really struck me was the conversation between you and Shawn where you’re just sitting around the table wondering about the people that you used to know and what happened to them. I’m wondering how you felt. Is it that nostalgia and those memories that help drive a person faced with the scenario and the settings of THE DAY to get to a life like that once again?
Dominic Monaghan: Yeah, I mean that’s my favorite thing that I shot in THE DAY. It was a very intimate scene driven by the actor’s performances and the director, Doug, said to Shawn and I “just ask that question at some point. I don’t really mind how you get there or what happens afterwards, but just ask if you think that person, Susan McKunis is still alive.” And Shawn is a great actor and we played off each other well I think. What happens in those survival moments is as long as you feel safe in that moment, as long as you are protected in that moment, you revert back to some of those conversations that you might have at high school or at college or driving to a friend’s house and the director wanted to show that people revert back to those normal questions of “Do you think that girl is still around? What do you think she is doing if she is around? Do you miss her?” Those are questions that normal people ask, even if they face an extraordinary circumstances.
The Kidd: Hope and faith is a very big part of THE DAY and a lot of that is driven by Rick. These are characters that have been faced with circumstances for about ten years, but at what point do you think hope and faith cease to exist when you are seeing these things every day? It’s just a matter of trying to live, because that’s all you know how to do anymore.
Dominic Monaghan: Yeah, I mean faith occurs based around hope. Faith and hope are almost the same thing. I think one of the saddest things is hope and when you believe in something that you are hanging on to, that’s quite sad. Certainly it’s poignant to have hope in something, because it means you’ve invested a certain amount of yourself in it and I think Rick has these seeds symbolizes and I think he kind of keeps the group together. He has this dream that he’s putting out and “sooner or later we will get to a place where we feel safe and we will plant these seeds and we will watch them grow and we will eat nice food and we will be safe and warm. That’s where we are heading to. That’s the thing that keeps us alive. That’s the thing that makes us get up in the morning instead of giving up.” The human spirit and animals in general are great at surviving, great at just continuing on and enduring.
The Kidd: It’s weird, because ultimately the character with the most hope and the most faith is the one who leaves first and I’m wondering if you took that as a subtle message in the story that really there is no place for hope and faith when things get really this bad.
Dominic Monaghan: Well certainly you can argue that for sure and when the directors and producers said to me “We are interested in killing our lead,” it’s almost like in PSYCHO. We want to establish our lead and believe in the film and then kill him at a point where the audience wont expect and I was turned on by that. I like shocking the audience. I like making them feel that anything is possible in this film and as soon as Rick finds himself in that situation, you as an audience are aware that the usual rules of a film don’t apply to this particular movie.
The Kidd: Yeah, and that’s definitely what got me. You mentioned PSYCHO. SCREAM kind of followed the same model of building a recognizable actor and establishing them and then “wham” just kind of hitting you with something and then you realize then what the stakes are. So I know you said that was something that turned you on, but how much work was really put into really establishing this character to then take him away so shockingly I guess?
Dominic Monaghan: The filmmakers and certainly myself were as invested in creating a well-rounded character as the other actors in the film. We wanted to have someone who brought his own positive and negative elements and good things to the group and bad things to the group and a fully fleshed well rounded kind of character you know? Stanislavsky, one of the major teachers in modern day acting said that “there are no small parts, only small actors” and I approach anything I do based on that idea and if someone is only in one scene it doesn’t mean that there’s less to their character, it just means that your audience is seeing them in that one particular scene, but you can make it as real as possible.
The Kidd: There’s also this group mentality where Rick is clearly the leader of the group and I kind of wondered how you approach this group dynamic where clearly there’s leaders and clearly there’s followers even though everyone may have their own ideas on how to survive. I kind of wonder how you approach reconciling that and how these different characters would fit into that group mentality.
Dominic Monaghan: I was a little grumpier than normal. I’m usually quite a sociable person and like to go out and get to know people and party a little bit and I was a little bit more of a curmudgeon on this particular film and I told people I was going to be that way and I didn’t socialize much, I kind of kept to myself and probably wasn’t as approachable as I normally would be and that allowed me to be more of a military like response to people’s reaction and I kind of saw myself a little bit like the sergeant of that group.
The Kidd: Let me ask you really quickly about THE HOBBIT, because now that Peter Jackson is turning the two parts into a trilogy with all kind of talks of approaching the Tolkien appendixes to tie the trilogies together. Have there been any discussions with you about coming back with some of the other LORD OF THE RINGS regulars who were part of the first three movies to try to tie those films together by having Merry be a part of it?
Dominic Monaghan: I talk to Pete a lot. I talk to him about how the film is going and how he is in general and how he is as a human being. I never put any pressure on him to “work with me,” because that’s a relationship that I wouldn’t want to abuse, so I would never ask him myself and up until this point I think Pete has been so focused on telling other elements of the story in THE HOBBIT that I don’t think he has got there, but obviously I love Pete and I love the family that he had around him and the New Zealand world and if he were to ask me to come back I wouldn’t need to think about it for too long.
The Kidd: (Laughs) Okay, thank you very much.
Dominic Monaghan: All right, man, it’s good to talk to you.
The Kidd: Thank you very much.
Dominic Monaghan: See you later.
THE DAY opens in theatres this Wednesday, August 29.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST
Aug. 28, 2012, 2 p.m. CST
who would've thought he'd have the most successful post-LOTR career
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST
by Uncle Pooky
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST
Was boring to fuck!!!!!!
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST
I can forgive most of the movies you obviously get paid to feature. But this one is a real piece of shit that'll cost you whatever credibility you have left.
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST
It's a pint. I'm gonna git me one.
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
Still pissed ... it was awful. Biggest letdowns in terms of endings (in no particular order): 1.) Lost 2.) The Dark Tower 3) BSG Big build-ups and shit landings.
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST
I didn't think that hobbit had a girl's first name...
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:29 p.m. CST
short for Meriadoc. Dude... Seriously?? Turn in your geek card, Kidd.
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST
by Chris Moody
...and "Sam" went to be featured on 50 FIRST DATES as an ignorant steroid user with a lisp. Go figure.
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST
by Patrick Thomas
Who believes this shit?
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:33 p.m. CST
Dominic probably didn't have the best memories of LOST, which is why he didn't want to go there. Didn't he and Matthew Fox hate each other on the show?
And didn't most people hate Matthew Fox on LOST?
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:33 p.m. CST
by Patrick Thomas
It could so easily have been done better.
Aug. 28, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST
by Patrick Thomas
Seasons 1-5 were perfect. Read this whole post before dismissing what I have to say. Season 6 could have slowly revealed the following: Hundreds of years from now, men will have invented a large ship that can travel through time. They activated it, traveled back thousands of years, and it crashed into the ocean. It bobbed there for centuries, slowly accumulating sand and sediment and all that, coming to resemble an island. Survivors of the original crew of the ship lived on top of it, and after generations and generations these became 'the Others.' As the DHARMA initiative came to the island and started digging and drilling around, they were tapping into areas of the ship that were just beneath the centuries of sediment, and that is what was causing the electromagnetic fluctuations. When they actually accessed and hit the time-travel device area, that is when the big problems began (frozen donkey wheel subplot). This would also explain how the Island was able to move, disappear, stay hidden, etc. These are all explainable by force-fields, time-travel, futuristic technology. The "numbers" could have been the ship transmitting its location, an automatic GPS tracking system for the original designers. As many people noticed, the Lost numbers, when used as latitude and longitude, place the item squarely in the south Pacific near Australia. The fact that all the survivors of the 815 crash are 'connected' in some way could have been explained by the fact that the 815 survivors were all the ancestors of the crew of the futuristic spaceship. Their family lineage, their DNA, could have been pulled towards the ship for reasons easily illuminated by a science fiction writer. This alone would have explained a lot of the otherwise unexplainable coincidences and family connections. They are all famiily because, as time goes by, they will all be family. The 'Others' are the actual descendants of the survivors. It would be a classic Lost "flip" on things. Incidentally, the "island as ship" explanation would at least have explained why, at the start of season 6, the island was supposedly at the bottom of the Pacific. Jacob and the Man in Black could have been the last two survivors of the original time-ship crash. In the future, discoveries had been made which allowed people to prolong life for incredibly long durations. The ship may have had a device that delayed the aging process, or accelerated the healing process. This would have explained why Richard never aged, why people healed so quickly from injuries, and why women couldn't get pregnant (if the body considered pregnancy an injury). It would also explain why Rose's cancer went away, why Charlie beat his addiction, why Christian was resurrected, and so on and so forth. Plus, a black smoke monster is easily explainable with future technology too. It could have been the original security system for the time-ship, nanites run amok. So... there you go... Some may have noticed that this plot borrows heavily from the book version of the Michael Crichton novel "Sphere." There is nothing new under the sun. But it gels nicely with Lost. Regardless of what people think of this suggestion for an alternative ending, I don't think anyone will be bold enough to say that the ultimate ending -- a sideways-Purgatory in which people spend some time undoing some pointless events in their lives with strangers they once flew on a plane with -- is somehow better... well, you can't be helped. The ending SUCKED.
Aug. 28, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
and the verdict, judging by the trailer, it looks fucking dumb.
Aug. 28, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
Aug. 28, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
Aug. 28, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST
Well that puts things in perspective. jmoe, I know Dominic used his Twitter account to say that Matthew Fox regularly beats women, so yeah, I'm sure he was ready to leave. ... Never did see a follow-up to that accusation, come to think of it. Anyone know more? I really really do not want to have to go trawling through E! Online or something.
Aug. 28, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST
by la te ral us
and don't at all get the criticism of the finale. sure the 6th season was easily the weakest, but as finales go, it was as perfect a wrap up as i've ever seen. damon and carlton really knocked it out of the park. but as i always suspected, monaghan is a douchbag
Aug. 28, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST
by Norman Colson
Aug. 28, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST
It looks all washed out. Needs more contrast. As it stands, the lack of contrast or vibrancy makes it look like a bad public access television show that happens to have decent actors. All the costumes, make-up, everything looks off and is cheapened. I think if they fixed the color-grading, it'd get a better response.
Aug. 28, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST
Dominic Monaghan was awesome in LOTR, LOST and Flashword.
Aug. 28, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST
Not bad mate - certainly better than what we got. IMO i was happy with the show right until Across the Sea, then it went to shit. And i still think the ending they came up with would have been palletable if what happened on the Island at the end had been more satisfying. By the last episode the Man in Black should have killed just about everyone. In the finale he should have killed Kate and Sawyer leaving just Jack left so their big fight would have really been epic. Having Kate shoot him in the back - AWEFUL! Then have them all escape on the plane was cheesy and made no sense in regards to the Purgatory ending - that only works if everyone dies on this island. It wouldnt have been the most satisfying of conclusions but at least it would have been an epic finale with loads of deaths and then the purgatory thing would matter more than it did. My two cents anyway. Hopefully Breaking Bad wont fuck it up so badly!
Aug. 28, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
and heard someone has naked video of Harry in Vegas and they're threatening to release it!! Dear God, no, I'll pay to stop that from happening!!
Aug. 28, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST
Flashforward is still, probably, the best post-lost grand mystery multi character drama. But that's not saying much, still wasn't really all that great. Got better by seasons end, but wasn't enough in my opinion, deserved to be canned. But it wasn't anywhere near as hideously hilariously awful as The Event was.
Aug. 28, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
Aug. 28, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST
Aug. 28, 2012, 4:52 p.m. CST
A lot of actors claim not to have seen their own films or tv shows when interviewed. I don't know how many of them are bullshitting, but it always makes me cringe. I mean acting is your *work*. Dont you want to see the results? Dont you want that closure? Plus dont you want to see what you did well and what you might have done differently, y'know critique yourself to improve for next time? I do like Monaghan tho - he sounds like a good guy in the LOTR commentary track in particular. However I kinda hope he doesnt return for THE HOBBIT part III. Never so great when actors play a younger version of themselves even tho theyre now ten years older. Yep, I know Christopher Lee is going to be doing just that. But fuck it. He's Christopher Lee.
Aug. 28, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST
I still think the LOTR trilogy needs to be revisited and perfected. ROTK and, to a lesser extent, TTT are a real mess and need recuts. FOTR is pretty much perfect and hopefully an indication for how the first Hobbit movie will play out (except there's no natural emotional ending like with FOTR with those excellent scenes of Boromir's last stand and his death, also Frodo deciding to leave everyone).
Aug. 28, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST
Dominic still has a LOTR hangover imo ... Nothing has come close since and he seems slightly bitter.
Aug. 28, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST
by I am_NOTREAL
particularly - especially - because it was supposedly planned in advance. The show was so freaking good right when it made the turn at the end of Season 3, I was all in... ...planned in advance and the best they could do was some off-camera bullshit about how they all agreed to meet in purgatory and...it's all coming back and I just threw up a little
Aug. 28, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
I had a good day at work today. So thats nice for me!!!
Aug. 28, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST
by Norman Colson
Aug. 29, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST
....was it somewhere in Africa? Whatever. The room was full of high school science skeletons, all in "one piece," so to speak. Idiotic. I never watched another episode.
Aug. 29, 2012, 12:30 a.m. CST
Aug. 29, 2012, 1:32 a.m. CST
No. They didn't have to be on the island to go to the flash-sideways/purgatory. It didn't matter where they died.
Aug. 29, 2012, 2:26 a.m. CST
But surely 5/6 characters escaping and carrying on their lives off the island for another 50 years completely negates the fact that they all met up in purgatory as present selves at the end. You are right that in theory it doesnt matter, but dramatically that ending would be far more powerful if noone had got off the island.
Aug. 29, 2012, 3:02 a.m. CST
The reason they all looked like the way they did when they left the island is because that's how they looked during their time on the island. Which was the most important time in their lives.
Aug. 29, 2012, 3:40 a.m. CST
What now? What the fuck are you smoking Monaghan?
Aug. 29, 2012, 5:27 a.m. CST
Never forget. *sniff*
Aug. 29, 2012, 5:57 a.m. CST
by John Kenny
He offeres to answer their questions but then just gives sarcastic answers. Here are some examples: “@chrisnicksteve: @DomsWildThings I desperately want to play Lord of the Rings Risk with you.” Have grander goals. “@Jake_Sutton: @DomsWildThings who is your favorite character on lost? I feel like this has been asked already...” You think? “@fstiglich: @DomsWildThings what are your real greatest hits?” Translation: divulge your ultimate life moments to a stranger. Hi there!
Aug. 29, 2012, 7:01 a.m. CST
Reporter: "So Viggo/Sean/Dom, has Peter asked you to come back for The Hobbit?" Viggo/Sean/Dom: "No, because my character is too young/not born yet/not involved in the fucking story".
Aug. 29, 2012, 7:15 a.m. CST
How can you say it was the most important time in their lives when they could have all lived for another 40/50 years - in which case it would be a traumatic experience you woudl rather forget!
Aug. 29, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST
the more you realize how clueless and immature they are. I mean for fuck's sake, get a grip. Case in point: spotmund. I mean, dude are you just trolling or are you actually just this dumb? It was the most important time in their lives, because when they were on the island each in their own way contributed to SAVING THE FUCKING WORLD, whether literally or metaphorically by not ultimately giving in to their demons and/or making emotional connections with one another. The desperation to discredit Lost and its ending reeks of self-loathing and flat-out ignorance.
Aug. 29, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST
And some of you dolts need to think outside the box a bit. The sideways world was "purgatorial" in the sense that it was a holding point for the characters before "moving on" but it didn't necessarily have to be Purgatory in the Biblical/Christian sense. THEY created that world, not some vengeful or judgemental deity. And "moving on" can be whatever you want it to mean. Hell, I consider myself an atheist, or at the very least agnostic, and I found the ending perfectly fulfilling and consistent with my beliefs. If you're devout Christian, you can be satisfied by it as well. That's the beauty of it.
Aug. 29, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST
by Martin Hogg
No. no. no. no. no. no. no. Just no.
Aug. 29, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST
Aug. 29, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST
I like some of your ideas, but in light of your ending, I'm glad not everything was explained. There'd be even more people complaining about the finale.
Aug. 29, 2012, 1:01 p.m. CST
Are you just trolling here for the hell of it? Did you even watch the finale?
Aug. 29, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST
makes me really glad you weren't a writer on LOST.
Aug. 30, 2012, 12:39 a.m. CST
Aug. 30, 2012, 12:41 a.m. CST
...refuting and arguing against the points you're making. But I'm not going to because I've already broken my word by saying ANYTHING. What I will say is that people like you who think they have it all figured out and therefore feel justified in belittling and berating anyone who hates the ending are just as bad as the haters. The WORLD widely accepts the fact that the last season of Lost and the finale in particular DID NOT measure up with everything that came before.
Aug. 30, 2012, 12:52 a.m. CST
Aug. 30, 2012, 12:52 a.m. CST
It wasn't a christian church. It represented all of their faiths.
Aug. 30, 2012, 2:37 a.m. CST
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
the Benny Hill theme.
Aug. 31, 2012, 7:36 a.m. CST
by albert comin
There was no plan, just desperate atempts to squeeze one more season out of a show which should had lasted 3 seasons at most. And it's obvious in the first season ther whole thing was supposed to have a heavy SF element to it, and the ending hanging on such heavy religious metaphor is claerly the case of Damon Lindelof's recent convertion to christianity influencing the direction of the show. And contrary to that Dominic Monaghan claim, Lindelof is not a great writer. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out. "Lost" was captivating due to their constant use of cliffhangers and constant throwing of mysteries with delayed answers. But it was not a great show. It's too gimmickly for that. The mechanism behind the storytelling was always obvious and transparent. You want a truly brillant TV show, watch "Breaking Bad". It's not the genre that's in cause, but the claim to greatness.
Sept. 5, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST
Really...Noone mentions his best role ever???
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