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An Alternate Opening Scene From THE AVENGERS Is Now Online!!
Via Yahoo, Here's a look at an alternate opening from THE AVENGERS - due on Blu-ray/DVD September 25. I dig this, although the sequence definitely sets a markedly different tone for the picture - I'm kinda thinking I like the one they went with more? What do you think?
I'm assuming this is one of the deleted scenes that'll be featured on the home video set. Excited to see what other stuff they've included.
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Nah not feeling this one.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST
Man, Robin Scherbatsky is ridiculously hot in that uniform
by kidicarus
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FUCK YOU STAN LEE
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I can see this scene happening though, typical of bureaucratasses.
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Wise decision to cut this. She doesn't really have much to do in the movie and starting it with her would have been a mistake. Nobody walks away from this movie remembering that character.
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Not a great start to the movie.
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Oh, probably because it sucks.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST
looks like first take. but closer to ultimates where hulk goes nuts
by walt
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And cut right to the Shawarma scene. Then roll credits. At least for a few select audiences just to watch their reaction.
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Boy does she ever suck !
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she really can't act. Every line she delivers in the movie is like she's on sedation. Less of her is more.
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Only not as appealing. This would have set the tone all wrong...
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Love live The Muthafuking King!! *krackle*
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST
She is so terrible of an actress, it's truly criminal that she has a career
by YackBacker
Please recast this piece of driftwood.
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Cap deciding wether or not to contact Peggy Carter after all these Years and the scene focuses more on a man in a different time scenario. There's the scene in which he interacts with that cute waitress. Waitress: "we have open WiFi." Steve rogers: "You mean radiowaves"? Love the extended scene with Ruffalo and harry Dean Stanton HDS: "are you that Big guy who turns into that little fellla or the fella that blows up Orange"? (Nice nods to the other Marvel Characters.) The extended fight between Hawkeye and Black Widow against Loki's Chulati soldiers, hopelessy until outnumbered a certain Red-White and Blue avenger jumps into the fray and saves the day. Great stuff.
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There is a rhythm to the dialogue which reminds me of Dr. Zola's interrogation scene in CAPTAIN AMERICA. I guess that was one of the scenes Whedon punched up?
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST
She is attractive and don't need to act for what i would love to do to her.
by Stalkeye
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This actress however is terrible. The worst part of the movie is when she screams, "GRENEADE!!" Awful.
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But it is so sad that people feel they have to put down Stan, Hallucinating that Kirby created these characters alone? Look at any list of the top100 comic characters. Tons were created by Kirby with Lee. tons were created by Lee without Kirby. Only one was created by Kirby without Lee--Captain America. The man was quite likely the greatest comic artist of all time, but a one man show he was not.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST
Definitely the right call made! Further shows Whedon's effective decision making.
by Wcwlkr
Yeah it's a totally different tone, and totally doesn't vibe with what the movie turned out to be. But I look forward to seeing more of these. But it did seem to capture the antagonist essence of what Maria Hill exhumes from the comics.
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just another forgettable, shitty actress.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST
So are they just gonna leak all the extras online before the release date?
by kindofabigdeal
No need to buy the special edition anymore.
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I'm glad that wasn't used. The film needed to build up to those emotions, not open with them.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST
Stan lee's deleted cameo was better than what was shown in the theaters.
by Stalkeye
After the Waitress walks off in confusion after Steve mentions radiowaves, Lee, who is cast as an patron says to Rogers; "You should have gave her your number, idiot". LMMFAO
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There was a similar one filmed for the end, to bookend the whole tesseract doings
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Stanton asks "are you a big guy who gets little, or a little guy who gets big?" Banner than contemplates the deep philosophical question, before responding that at this point, he isn't sure. It had nothing to do with the Thing or any other Marvel character. At least, that's how I saw it. And, yeah, the Hill opening is bad. Her deleted closing scene is even worse. The Nick Fury final speech is so much more effective - thank goodness they went with that.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:50 p.m. CST
@nephilim138 - Yeah, but I'd still like to balance her taint on my nose like a circus seal.
by Cletus Van Damme
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST
I like it...Joss has often started things with the ending/aftermath...
by Logan_1973
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Aug. 28, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST
you mean we're not getting the 30 mins extra footage yet?
by Righteous Brother
Darn...I was looking forward to getting hold of the Avengers, I wonder if I should wait it out.
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KIDDING!!!! Sorry, had to do it.
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I like the sombre mood but yes, the opening they used was superior to this.
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Looks like an extended cut of the ending sequence. Before Hill asks Fury "what happens next?"
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It's not that it's bad, but it definitely sets a different tone!
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is the one with Cap and Old Peggy. It was the scene Joss said he hated to cut but had to.
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How I Met Your Mother is the only evidence one could possibly need
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so all the Avengers vs Batman nonsense can start back up
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Monday morning quarterbacking aside.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST
I hate it making the Avengers the problem is not the way to go!
by Norm3
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Aug. 28, 2012, 1:11 p.m. CST
Now why the US army couldn't have taken out Bane is another matter.
by Smerdyakov
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I think opening a story with something big happening and then jumping back in time is becoming a huge and cheap story telling cliche. I think it's fair to say Whedon and co. were among the first to do it on Firefly, but these days loads of TV shows open with a main character getting shot or seemingly killed and then they put up a "24 hours earlier" caption and jump back in time. I feel it's become a cheap hook to try and keep people watching a show and it's far too overused now, so I'm pleased they didn't use it for the movie (which I fuckin' adored BTW and I can't wait for the Blu-Ray).
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This doesn't feel like the opening of a film; More like one of those "webisodes" that studios put out prior to the film's release to get people talking about it. I can't imagine how this would be the beginning of the movie, since she is not really a narrative character at all.
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LOL exhumes would be if she was digging up her personality. But you got my point.
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She would be more suited for porn
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Aug. 28, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST
Reminds me of the opening for Big Trouble in Little China. "You leave Jack Burton alone!!!"
by AlienFanatic
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Seems more like a web teaser than the actual opening for a film. If it was considered as an opener, I'm glad they didn't do it. Way too dark compared with the rest of the movie.
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Absolutely terrible in The Avengers. I have no idea how this woman has a career. Anyone who finds her attractive obviously haven't gotten their rocks off in some time.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
holllllllllyyyy shit, I had no idea she was so hated. Granted, I've no interest in watching How I Met Your Mother, but I thought she was reasonably capable in this movie.
by TheSeeker7
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Aug. 28, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
Deazl, what are you basing that on, her brilliant, nuanced performances in How I Met your Mother?
by john
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Perceptive comment and excellent screen name.
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Perceptive comment and excellent screen name.
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Maria hill in marvel is spanish... second she's an effective solder, smar, tough, a little bitchy at times but can look like a fool when she's wrong. Often times she's so stubborn she doesnt listen to others, very pigheaded. She's worse than amanda waller. The actress is playing her wrong... that's all... There are things i do like about maria hill though, she tends to go against the words of the heroes but she'll back them up when it's the right decision. She's only this way because she feels powerless. as an ordinary human in a world full of demigods, monsters, mutants and inventors and mad scientists who can destroy a city block with a snap of their fingers... it's understandable.
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Looks just weird: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57501231-10391698/hbos-the-girl-teaser-trailers-released/
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nothing douchey about it....comedy gold right there.
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striparella dont count
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Does this mean Liam Neeson have a role to play in the Avengers Universe?
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That player sucks ass. Freezes. Terrible quality. Studios need to boycott Yahoo! until they make a better player...
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Aug. 28, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST
Uh, Hipshot allow me to once again remind you that Kirby created The Silver Surfer annnnddd...
by Stalkeye
...The Black panther. As he stated in an videotaped interview; "Why aren't they (Black People) represented? and then there's that interview in which Glactus needed a herald.. ..the rest as we know is history. Kirby may not be an excellent writer, but dammit if he isn't the all time conceptionist in Comicdom. New Gods? OMAC? Eternals? Machine Man? etc? All without Stan. Thank you.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST
OK renetabard we get it, You have waaayy higher standards in beauty.
by Stalkeye
*Rolls Eyes*
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Citation needed.
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...but Colby just isn't up to the task of bracketing this film. Good decision. Wish they could've figured out another way to foreshadow her growing opposition to Fury's methods w/o showcasing her glaring deficiencies as a dramatic actor. She IS very pretty though. Gotta really bring it next time Colby...I'm rooting for you.
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I might not have the highest standards, but they're certainly higher than this walking bag of cottage cheese.
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which is the same scene in which HDS gives banner his old motorcycle in order to get from Jersey to New York. I'll get back to you on that one.
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Isn't that a loaded question? One could argue that a comic book character (specifically, because of the medium) isn't truly created until an artist has drawn him, no matter how much material the artist is given as a guideline Even if ,for example, Lee's version of events concerning the creation of the fantastic 4 is the truth, you can fairly argue that they weren't truly created until Kirby drew them. You can argue it the other way round too: That a drawing of a man in a costume is only a drawing of a man in a costume until a writer gives him a voice
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Aug. 28, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST
If the scene goes on, does she start talking about Keyser Söze?
by elmo
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Aug. 28, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST
and what's with the "name a character lee created solo" -? huh?
by Detached
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to move the damn camera in this interrogation scene? How boring was that? No drama at all. Definitely not a good opening to the film.
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and srsly lacking in the witty banter department.
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Seriously. She's awful.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST
Whoof!! Bullet avoided. Where the fuck were they going with that?! I dub this footage shit on a shingle in everything from concept to execution
by UltraTron
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Have to admit as a viral teaser it would have generated interest. And it did give me chills when Cap's shield sneaks into the frame.
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What was the opening scene? I've already forgotten.
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Smulders is very appealing on How I Met Your Mother. Sometimes it's not all the actor's fault.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST
Just another case of the woMAN tryin' to keep the brotha down
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Bitch.
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I never noticed until you guys mentioned it... a pretty face goes a long way. But yes everything about that scene is wrong and glad they scrapped it.
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There is not sense of Loss. No sense of danger. Look, I enjoyed the film. It was competently done. But it was unfortunately with little to no consequence to anything (or anybody). Fuck, even Independence Day had a sense of loss. You felt for that dad in the end, who flew into the alien space-ship to save his kids. That was some emotional stuff (admit it, you faggots). Terminator 2 was an emotional film, and the great loss was a fucking robot... The only loss in this film was a budget deficit on all the military equipment lost, as well as New York being trashed (and why in the name of Loki's dickhole does it always have to be fucking New York!) I am getting sick of these competently made, yet emotionally dead films. What sense of loss have you felt for the last comic book films? In the Dark Knight even, there was almost no sense of loss. The fact that Katie Holmes was replaced by that FUGLY was a huge mistake! Why? Well, besides the fact that she was hotter, there was an emotional backstory. There was the entire backstory of Bruce and Rachel as kids, being the voice of reason in Batman Begins... How the fuck can we relate to that, when she looks so fucking DISTRACTINGLY different in Dark Knight? I know it can work in some movies (I think Dumbledore's replacement in HP films was marginally successful -- maybe because they got a good fucking actor to replace the late Richard Harris)...It just didn't fucking work in DK. Anyway, the bottom line is: The entire fucking city is trashed, and every fucking cunt seems to jump out of the way. The aliens seem to hit every god damned electron in the city, EXCEPT FOR THE FUCKING PEOPLE! C'mon -- even Steven Spielberg was able to show innocent civilians being killed/gobbled up in Jurrasic Park and War of the Worlds... And isn't he supposed to be a softy? I dunno. Fuck, even Mike Bay tried hard to showcase SOME semblance of a loss in Dark of the Moon. So how fucking pathetic is it, that I am referencing Bay as some example to actually make the audience feel a sense of danger/loss/impact in a sci-fi/fantasy/superhero film? Starship Troopers did it brilliantly. You really felt for those poor grunts getting sliced up by those bugs... There was an emotional attachment there. The violence wasn't just empty, hollow Eli Roth bullshit. It had some meaning and was confrontational and most importantly: effective. They should have shown at least a semblance of this in Avengers. I watched that entire film, admiring the special effects, the budget and effort that must have been invested to get this to the big screen, but I didn't feel anything pretty much the entire movie through. I chuckled a little, here and there, but I felt pretty much nothing! Loki is supposed to be some tragic villian, isn't he? I kinda felt something for him in Thor. Here, he just comes across as an unstable asshole, who doesn't seem to know exactly what the fuck he is doing or what he's fighting for. I dunno. Avengers was hailed as the second coming of satan, and I was just disappointed with the whole thing, because I didn't feel anything when it ended... Fuck, even Revenge of the Sith had tonnes more emotion than this uninspired production. Anybody else agree...?
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Aug. 28, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST
I know i read she mentioned her ethnic background somewhere
by Norman Colson
I think she mentioned it during a new avengers story but i cannot seem to remember. Either way she's a ballbuster, whether she's white, spanish or black. It's funny in the cartoon emh, she's not white at all... lol.
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Nary a geek's eye was dry during his death scene.
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Asshat.
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the chic is fine as shit, finer than a sand pebble. and she is an amazing actress, with an amazing ass. all those h8rs must be jealous chix, even the ones who happen 2 b dudes and thats the bottom line, coz stone cold gr8schizoid sed so
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Aug. 28, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST
i liked coulson, i felt sad but didnt cry about it. it just didnt hit deep enough for me, we barely knew the guy.
by Norman Colson
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...but your whole argument went to hell in a handbasket when you said STARSHIP TROOPERS did anything "brilliantly". Every character in that was a cartoon and the acting was terrible (except maybe for Clancy Brown, who's good in just about everything). Watching a bunch of cyphers get chopped up by CGI bugs brought a tear to your eye, huh? Whatever, dude. I'll take AVENGERS over that any day.
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Stop being a dumb cunt and explain to me why I, or anybody else, should really care about Agent Coulson. What do we know about him? He is some agent. Woopdie Doo. He seems to be important. Woopdie Doo. Big fucking deal. How have we (the audience) established some emotional connection with him? Get the fuck out of here, and learn film making 101, you dumb douche. Just because you're some die-hard fanatic, doesn't mean a casual audience is going to give a fuck about some Agent... I just recently watched Starship Trooper Invasion. It was fucking animation, for god's sake. I cared more about pretty much every death in that film, than in Avengers. And that was a fucking cartoon, basically. Have you seen Ninja Scroll? That was anime. In the end, when the ninja girl dies, that's fucking devastating... How the fuck is anything in this film devastating? Nothing happens, besides a bunch of aliens being thrown around a city, safely hitting walls and windows, where in the last moment the civilian population can just hurry out of the way in the nick of time. What the fuck is this cartoony farce? If you keep doing that shit, you lose the connection with the audience, and it doesn't feel real anymore. How the hell didn't a single alien manage to take the life of a civilian? Every time an alien swoops down, you just don't feel any tension, because you know in the last moment the hulk, or thor, or some other faggot in a costume is going to come in-between would-be-dead civilian and the alien/wall/window If you keep doing this, you suck out all the tension and excitement from a film. If you cannot see this, you're a dumb fucking cunt, and should fuck off and stop wasting my time with your fanboy antics. Troll.
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Not every film has to be cookie cutter with "a sense of loss" or whatever contrivance of plot device you need to care about the story. The Avengers was lots of fun...far from a perfect movie, but SO much right in there. I loved it and people criticize me on here for "hating everything" ....because they have low standards themselves.
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Starship Troopers is one of the finest sci-fi films of the nineties. If you cannot see this, then your comments from here on in, are absolutely irrelevant. So shush.
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You fired the first salvo calling us all faggots. Just sending it back to ya. Coulson was an instumental part of bringing the team together. His scenes were short in every prior film but we got to know him gradually and when he dies there's most definitely an impact. You may not have cared but others did to the point that they want the actor to return as the Vision. Doesn't that speak volumes of the fan base for this character? Call me whatev, but like chaburchak pointed out, Starship Troopers was just a video game with subtext about propagandist WWII. Asshat go home.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST
Every film needs to establish an emotional connection with the Audience -- Superhero film or not.
by Emperor
If I see aliens swooping down, blowing every fucking electron up besides their actual targets, I am taken out of the movie, and just start looking at explosions, rather than events taking place. And this is how most people will be feeling. They say "it's fun..." Yeah, it was a fun flick. I am not denying that. I didn't turn it off midway through. But it was a hollow, empty, consequence-less kind of fun. You went there to see shit blow up and the hulk trash the place. Yeah, that's kinda fun. But it's also empty and meaningless. It didn't have to biblical, but there had to be some tension in it. And please, all you dumb fuckers who keep talking about Agent Coulson -- shut the fuck up. Agent Coulson's death (even if he were, hypothetically speak, a pivotal character, which he wasn't, even if we truly loved him/cared about him, which we did not) had no bearing/relevance whatsoever to the fact that tension was missing. Coulson didn't magically inject tension into the final confrontation between Avengers and Aliens. So, my point is: Coulsons' death is completely and utterly beside the point. One of the basic rules of film making is: add some form of tension in every scene -- even if it's comedy. Tension doesn't always have to be tragedy. It can be something as simple as sexual tension. Every great story teller can do this. In this film, tension was lacking, and therefore, it's a major flaw. And whatever you say or do, ain't gonna change that. If you have issue with it, take it up with Whedon, not with me. He wrote and directed it.
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That actress is HORRIBLE! She was completely unbelievable.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST
Everybody here cared about the character of Coulson except you
by rev_skarekroe
Stop trying to pretend your opinion is fact.
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You dumb ass -- Nobody here is talking about Coulson... Even if the entire world and the entire universe cared about Coulson -- what's your point? Explain this to me, numbnuts. How does the lacking of tension in the entire god damned movie, have anything to do with somebody's death scene? Are you dumb, or just pretending to be? Think about this for a few minutes. Agent Coulson is completely irrelevant. I didn't even mention him, until some moron said "but what about Coulson's death?" As if that makes a shred of a difference to my argument. It's like saying "revenge of the sith is fucking shitty, but man, what about Padme's death in the end??? OMG!!! That just makes the entire film so emotional!!!!" Don't be a Jar Jar, okay? There's one Jar Jar too many in this Cosmos, and he is loathed by everybody in it.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST
THAT ALT OPENER IS BETTER THAN ALL THOSE SHITTY NOLAN BATMAN MOVIES COMBINED
by TAINTOLAY
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I think people are bring up Coulson because you said: -Little to no consequence to anything (or anybody)- They are bringing up Coulson as an example of consequences, which is a good one. There are, however, precious few others, I agree with you there.
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Leaving seen some of his other comments haha, I probably wouldn't agree on a lot, but I have no problem saying he's speaking a lot of truth on Avengers. I enjoyed the movie, and was impressed Whedon made an Avengers movie that didn't become a mess. The movie was fun, and I'll probably grab on Blu, but sorry guys, he's right, the threat was quite blasé. And my emotional Attachment wasn't there in this movie. Just wasn't. Fun but not a masterpiece. A simply fun blockbuster popcorn flick.
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the street scene looked like a set.
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what a fucking prick. so sick of his smarmy quickfire quipping bullshit. almost completely ruins the film the way every scene had to be about him, someone talking about him or saying "coulson's trading cards" "how about that cellist" every time he's not on screen it's like "where's phil?" "has anybody seen agent coulson?" etc. fuck off faggot, glad you're dead. i like tony stark and firefly (never bothered with the vampire shit whedon did) even though they're borderline annoying but fuck me i loved to see coulson die. best bit in a great film.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST
For me the most emotionally grabbing scene was Cap and Fury in the gym.
by whatevillurks
I enjoyed Rogers line about everything the country had lost since victory in WWII. Hopefully that is expanded on in Winter Soldier.
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Do you want to see the Avengers and New Yorkers getting killed by the aliens in realistic way like in the D-Day invasion in Saving Private Ryan? Is that what you want? You want to freak out young kids so that they'll have nightmares for months and give grandparents heart attacks? This is not that kind of movie. It's summer blockbuster 101. Get over yourself you pretentious douche. Asshat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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because he thought Coulson was a Jew.
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Besides the fact that it is a completely unhinged, uncompromising critique of our modern world and it's retarded society (you dumb asses who think it's just some WW2 context, are officially lobotomized squirrels), there's one word I'd like to use for this film: T E N S I O N. This film exudes tension from Start to finish. The very first scene, we have sexual tension, between a chick who's into rico, and rico who's into Carmen (and both deserve to have their assholes eaten with a spoon!) I mean, it just moves from one tension to another. You have the triangle between rico and those 2 babes (and there's actually real chemistry between all three), then you have the tension between rico and some dude who fancies carmen... You have the always imminent and looming threat of violent, homocidal bugs ripping anybody and everybody apart. Nobody is immune to getting their asses handed to them. All main characters (and side characters) have their asses handed to them in some form or another. There's always a looming threat of sudden death or departure of one of our favorite characters. There is actual character build-up and an arc for all of them. Tension basically abounds the entire movie. And it's genuine tension, not fake, contrived, unemotional tension that you see in a bunch of Hollywood films. Like when one of the officers says "If you run away, I'll shoot you myself" you know it's real, and you know it's a fight to the death. And this all, whilst maintaining a sense of awe and wonder. You really do imagine what it would be like to live in that world. It's organic and feels real, despite being set in the pretty distant future. Besides the fact that it's ingenious social satire, it's a very well made film, precisely because the Tension element is ever-present and it's extremely well developed. And there's not a single ounce of this in Avengers.
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It's cool. We all have those things that get us off. I like sheer nylons on hot chicks myself. But hey, whatever works, right? We all gotta use something to clean those pipes.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 4:54 p.m. CST
theflyingwasp I was thinking the same thing...probably cut for the 9/11 tone than anything else..
by K-Gin
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Listen you retarded boarish half-wit: Jurassic Park ring any bells? That movie was for kids too, and it had tension basically from start to finish! Guess what!? You can FUCK OFF NOW, mongoloid. You've just been destroyed. You want more kid flicks that have tension from start to finish? Okay... Lion King Titanic Star Wars IV-VI Aladdin etc. Fucked off yet, moron?
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Aug. 28, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST
and emperor...Startship Troopers was absolute crap that had some cool alien CG which is why people went to see it..
by K-Gin
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Starship Troopers is worth more than your entire family and friends. It's also worth more than your unborn children. Okay?
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Aug. 28, 2012, 5 p.m. CST
Ah, Emp, I love reading your posts whilst doing my Christopher Lee impersonation
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
It just fits. Hahahaha! TITANIC!!!! Lord have mercy, you crack me up more than Louis C.K.
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He's trolling. That's why he's hurling out insults.
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C'mon don't be shy.
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It was a pretty bad way to open the movie, so I'm glad that it's gone. It felt like the intro to a television show, like Law and Order. Bad acting too.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 5:16 p.m. CST
LOL at the idiot who invoked Agent Coulson as engendering a sense of loss. Fuck that ugly idiot, he better never come back even in a flashback.
by golden tribw
Only total idiots gave one percent of a shit about Coulson, ever. Fact.
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I'll try to be gentle.
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People who use it are cool....
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I will explain to you how to create tension for Avengers. And don't come back and say "but in the comic books...." I don't give a fuck about the comic books. Don't tell me the comic books lacked tension also. I am talking from a film maker's and screenwriter's perspective. So I will tell you how to make it with tension (some points): 1) Have the aliens more powerful. In the film, they were little more than pushovers. There needed to be the lowly alien grunts, of course, but some officers and superior bad-ass type aliens, who could give one of the superheroes a run for his money. You cannot establish tension if the enemy is too weak (case in point: droids in Star Wars prequels) 2) Instead of having the invasion localized, it had to be planetary. That's one of the things that Independence Day got right. Besides the fact that ID4 had more tension to it than Avengers, it actually was a reasonably well thought out film, from the perspective of how to invade an actual planet. Yes, of course there were stupid things too, but you did (as an audience) feel the sense of scale and sense of scope of this invasion. In Avengers, it's just some tensionless local skirmish. Yawn. 3) Have the villian (Loki) be something other than a lame, directionless, uneven boxing bag for the superheroes. Look at T2. That villian was fucking awesome and menacing. He really infused every scene he was in with tension, and he wasn't wearing fancy clothes, making sweeping speeches about controlling the galaxy, or have magical powers. He was just a fucking bad-ass on a mission, and nothing was gonna get in his way (and you felt that as an audience). You don't need Loki to be T1000, but he needs to be menacing enough to be taken seriously. There's nothing about him that's interesting. He doesn't seem powerful enough, nor does he seem menacing or dangerous enough for the audience to take him too seriously. And this is a huge problem! This is not a comedy. It's supposed to be superhero fun, but not a fucking parody! 4) There is a bit of tension between the superheroes, granted, but not nearly enough. Real tension is not throwing each other around and cracking a few one-liners in-between. Real tension would be something like one of the Avengers quits. One of them turns on another (or even joins Loki -- yes this does happen, but it's because he's brainwashed. What if he voluntarily joined Loki because he believed in Loki's cause, and didn't believe in the Avengers anymore?) This is a good example of why having a weak villian destroys prospects of developing characters. If the villian were strong, (I am not talking physical strength here), and persuasive/manipulative, we would have tension everywhere. What if, say, the Hulk temporarily joined Loki, because Loki took him seriously (rather than just looking at him as a freak, like humans do), and offered him the greatest research lab in the universe, with all the energy he could possibly wish for? He could then save everybody in need... That would be a compelling reason to perhaps join Loki. Loki just needs to tell him how he was betrayed by everybody in his life (and Bruce might be able to relate to that)... Imagine having a broken, crumbling avengers, who have been betrayed by the hulk. And once again: Don't fucking tell me that this wasn't in the comic books. I don't give a fuck, you stupid fucks. Not everything has to be line-for-line comic books cutouts. The screenplay needs to serve the story and characters. The plot needs to feel organic and natural. We need to know that betrayel, death (and fuck off with Agent Coulson already), sacrifice, loss, etc, are all realities in this universe, despite the fact that there are explosions and God battles. 5) The protagonists (superheroes) are reasonably well done, but they come across more like jokers, who like to save the world, whilst having fun, rather than serious, committed individuals, who ocasionally like to joke to lighten the tension. Case in Point: ID4 wasn't really a serious film. I mean, it had Will Smith in it. But it still knew when to be serious and take time to address serious issues. It's the fucking world we're talking about here, not the parking lot of Stark's mansion. This whole "saving the world" thing, is just a bit of a joke to these people... They all seem to do it, because it's the right thing. The film should have cut down on the super hero skirmishes, and focused on the gravity of them coming to a decision to go to war against an unknown enemy. It's like another day at the office for them. What happened to sitting down, seriously thinking about this, planning this in minute detail, only to find out later that the plan's gone to shit? How can we take this film seriously, when the superheroes don't? Yes, Captain America seems to take it a bit more seriously than others, but it's not good enough. All of this and more, sucks tension out of the film. In this case: Tension about the willingness to commit to an unknown cause and whether or not there's hope of victory. Case in point: America's involvement in WW2. There was a huge debate and conflict as to whether or not America should intervene. They were attacked and they eventually did. Now don't tell me that Agent Coulson's death was all it took for them to gear up and work together. Fuck off. All of this and more, is what made this film a lifeless, tensionless exercise of big-budget but empty, soulless mayhem. I am glad I didn't pay money to see it (and I mean that. I didn't pay a single cent to see this film. )
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Im glad its not, i hate when movies start with the end and then rewind days before. I find it hard to imagine this opening the movie, but this seems like a very short clip of an entire scene taken out of context.
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...it's a poorly written scene. Didn't fit at all.
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I mean just horribly bad opinions and statements. Stan Lee versus Jack Kirby, Avengers versus Dark Knight Rises, who cares they are all great. Colbie Smothers a terrible actress? It is a deleted scene! Who the hell thinks Nolan's batman movies are shitty? The hell with all you trolls! So I am being a troll against trolls I guess. If You don't like don't fucking watch it, and watch something you do like. Star Ship fucking Troopers? I like that movie but go fuck yourself saying it is better than Avengers, jesus H christ! I think a few talk backers are in a looney bin with crazy opinions just for the sake of having a different opinion. Everyone loves Avengers, I have to be the one that pokes holes in it. Maybe I am the crazy one
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You are giving this way too much thought for someone who has absolutely zero influence on how they are going to make these movies.
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Yes Caulson's death meaning much of anything was the biggest flaw in a mostly kick-ass, great movie. No one cared and the Avengers wouldn't care either that much, considering the ENTIRE FUCKING EARTH was being threatened. And they barely knew that guy and he was just some dude that they worked with very rarely. Maybe they sort of liked him but they didn't need his death to inspire him to SAVE THE FUCKING WORLD. Whedon must have been high the day he wrote those scenes. Again, he's a genius and the movie is excellent and mostly thanks to him but just saying that part was dumb.
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these talkbacks are art obscene and occasionally stupid, but art it's what makes the sight great, and shitty as well Who could ask for more?
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Aug. 28, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST
Y'know Emp, you're right about Starship Troopers...
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
Damn the Academy for not giving it best picture. It deserves it beyond anything that had come before or since. The greatest of thespians, Casper Van Dien was robbed, I tell you, ROBBED! Not even Robert Deniro's performance in Raging Bull has come close to matching the complexity and the humanity of the character of Rico. I doubt we'll ever see that kind of magic on the screen again. And the impeccable nuanced performaces of the rest of the cast — my GOD! Could there EVER be a better emsemble of talented actors? Charlie Sheen's Ex (when she was bangable) and Doogie Howser alone would have been enough talent for one film that would be a classic throughout the ages. And let us not forget Michael Ironside. Not since the screen death of Vito Corleone, have I been so moved as when he met his demise. "DO IT RICO!" I shed tears when play that scene in my mind's eye. But, none of that compares to the sublime BRAIN BUG. when Doogie placed his hand on it's face to sense its thoughts telepathically; "It's AFRAID!" Chilling work there. Only "Rosebud" comes close. Like Apocalypse Now, it truly depicted the horrors of war as it sent us down it's river of carnage and destruction, culminating in an ending that's just as powerful if not more so. I was so emotionally drained by the end of it but also grateful for feelings and ideas that it invoked and inspired in me, personally. In short, it made me a better human being. I think in the years to come it will be regarded in the same way that we now regard Citizen Kane or Casablanca.
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She was like Simon Pegg in Star Trek. The glaring mistake in an otherwise stellar cast. Would that all of her scenes were in the deleted section. I fervently hope she will not be in the sequel.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 6:02 p.m. CST
Blanket-Man, wrongo Boyo. Stanton was refering about GiANT-Man and The Thing in deleted scene.
by Stalkeye
See for yourself in 27 Days. :P
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that is all. seriously, that fucking douche is worth no more than that. anyone trying to carry on a discussion with that Starship Troopers obsessed weirdo is doing nothing more than feeding the troll.
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_emporer_ was motherfucking PWNED. Still, the troll has been fed. Probably jacking off at all the responses he's getting on here.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 6:16 p.m. CST
I think emperor was a grip on T2 and Starship Troopers.
by kindofabigdeal
Or possibly catering.
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I loved the movie, but I'm glad that scene to dropped. It feels so typical of a "very special" tv episode that is told in retrospect.
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The longer version of this scene ended with Maria giving the council the proverbial finger because SHIELD had recorded them authorising a nuke on New York.
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Starship Troopers is a sci-fi film. You don't compare that film to dramas like Citizen Kane or Godfather. They are completely different genres and completely different tones. Now, Starship Troopers isn't exactly the same thing as a conventional superhero film, but my point was to discuss its presence of tension, from start to finish, rather than give the film a review. The issue here, once again, isn't Starship Troopers. The issue here, is the fact that tension was completely lacking in Avengers. And without tension, you basically have no story. And that's the problem. "Saving the Earth" doesn't cut it as a story. You're an idiot. You cannot argue on level terms, so you try to change the subject. I bring up several kid films that demonstrate tension from start to finish, you bring up titanic. You're a dumb cunt. I bring up the lack of tension, you say that Avengers is just a tame kid's film that's supposed to be fun. Once again, so is Indiana Jones, but it did have tension in it. So, you're an empty bag. You have nothing to argue, so you create irrelevant arguments out of your ass, to convince yourself you've made some sort of point. You haven't made a point, dumb ass. I say there were no stakes and no real sense of danger/loss in the film, you bring up Agent Coulson. You are a complete and utter retard. Go crawl back into your hole now, you lightweight.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 6:33 p.m. CST
The Contessa would've been a livelier choice than Maria Hill.
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
And a classic one.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 6:38 p.m. CST
Also, girl under the car -- Whedon can't resist putting a skinny, plain-faced
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
girl in every scene of everything. And what is that yellow dashed building in NYC?
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That's your problem, you know, too much tension. You ask for it in your movies and you're tense in real life. Firstly, start drinking decaf. Secondly, get laid. Works wonders. And lastly, read this book: Chicken Soup For The Starship Troopers Obsessed Troll. Now, kindly fuck off, asshat.
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Glad it was cut.
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Regarding point 2: You can show a world-wide scale invasion, without losing focus of our heroes. It's not that hard. Think of a WW2 movie (where basically the entire planet is at war), but you focus on a group of soldiers. For example, remember in Private Ryan, where we always got glimpses of the scale and scope of this invasion of Normandy despite not losing focus of our main characters' individual struggles? Spielberg did this very well. He cut between large scale battles back to the smaller, local battles, where we can continue seeing our protagonists fighting, without forgetting that this was in the end a large-scale struggle and they were just a few heroes in the midst of many others... So, in Avengers, you can easily spend 2 or 3 minutes showing large-scale battles between the different nations of the world, but cutting back to our heroes fighting the aliens. If you're a good film maker, you will know how to do this. You can, for example, have the Avengers focus on the more challenging tasks, such as neutralizing the alien commanders and defeating Loki himself. You can have the humans fighting it out with the alien grunts, but cutting back to the struggles of our heroes. You need to give the audience the impression that this is a world-wide struggle, and the Avengers are merely playing their part -- albeit a very pivotal part, without which the world may well have been lost. If you show that without the Avengers, humanity would have been defeated, then you take nothing away from the humans who still manage to score a couple of smaller victories here and there in France, or Russia, or Africa, or wherever! Ultimately, it was a poorly strategized attack by Loki, and it's painfully obvious. He had to attack Earth at multiple spots. How stupid could he be, attacking at one place, just so we can have our heroes get together and have their tensionless action sequences!? If he had attacked the Earth basically in thousands of places simultaneously, then we would see that this required the co-operation of the Avengers, as well as much of the world's military might. This doesn't take focus away from the Avengers at all. We can spend just as much time on the Avengers, as Whedon spent in the film, but he had to show the struggles everywhere else. The film did a half-decent job at getting these heroes to co-operate, but it could have been done much better. The Avengers had to spread out at one point (not just throughout the city, but world-wide)... Thor had to try to defend Paris (for example), and Iron Man perhaps some Nuclear Facility in Russia (as an example). You get Hulk maybe to start smashing all those Alien ships, and have Captain America try to infiltrate one of the Command Ships in space (isn't that what he does best?) This would have been much more effective, and shown just how much was at stake and how desperate the struggle was. As of now, it was just a dull skirmish in New York somewhere... Dull, not because the special effects were poor. But because there didn't seem to be any danger or threat of defeat...
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emp is angry because a Jew dared look at him on the street, in broad day light.
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I didn't think the acting was all that terrible there, and I thought she was bad in the movie. The actual scene doesn't work as an opener to that film. It wouldn't have worked with the greatest acting ever put to film. I'm not sure it works anywhere in the film because of the difference in tone. The last thing that movie needed was more scenes about Shield with little or no Avengers.
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Emp doesn't realize it but all this time I've been trying to help him. It's called 'tough love.' Sometimes you need to be harsh so that someone can really come to grips with reality and change their life for good. It works with drug addicts. In this case, someone obsessed with Starship Troopers as being the end all movie to be compared with. I have no real desire to whip Emp's ass on this talkback. Hell, I hardly ever talkback — I'm mostly just a spectator here, trying to get a few yucks in now in then to keep me sane during the workday. God love Harry for bringing us together. Why did I decide to make Emp my personal cause? He called us all faggots here on his first post. Yes, he hates faggots and like you say, probably Jews. I say we have enough hate in this world. It's time to make a stand and move past those shackles that have kept us as humankind fearful of each other. But I think today, Emp has a made a real breakthrough. He just doesn't realize it yet. I'm pulling for ya big guy, I really am.
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no probably about it he went on a big Jew rant recently.
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Mostly because Smulder's performance is terri-fuckin-ble.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST
thank god they didnt go with that abortion.. this feminazation of hollywood is such a problem. glad they went with something less forced and more cool...
by Creative
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Aug. 28, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST
whiney woman why does hollywood think thats good or cool.... its just annoying and ruins movies...
by Creative
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Aug. 28, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST
wake up call evil dead remake... hope you see the error of your whinney woman lead ways
by Creative
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I like how everyone trashing Coulson is an outrageous asshole. I also enjoy how emperor finished his first year of film school and is now lecturing us on film. That's cute.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST
rashoman welcome to pg13 in this world mediocre always wins...
by Creative
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Aug. 28, 2012, 8:05 p.m. CST
I'll just put my Blu Ray copy of the film in my machine and watch this right now then, ay.
by deanbarry
It got released today in Australia. nanananananana.
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Aug. 28, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST
pvt ryan rated R and should havr one best picture over shakespear in love.... thats how you know hollywood is rigged
by Creative
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Vacumous delivery. What is she even doing in an otherwise cast of decent to great actors?
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Aug. 28, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST
They put a character on screen that act nothing like the character in the comics
by chien_sale
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But not acting.
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I just re-watched the Stanton/Ruffalo deleted scene, and here's what Stanton asks Banner: "Are you a big guy that gets all little, or a little guy that sometimes blows up large?" Now you could see a sly nod to Ant-Man/Giant-Man in there, but since Stanton actually saw Banner when he was big and green, I think even that's a reach. But where's the Thing reference? He definitely says "blows up large" not "blows up orange."
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Aug. 28, 2012, 9:47 p.m. CST
This actually makes the me want to take the events of the movie seriously.
by Nico Toscani
It's a shame the movie didn't carry through with this tone. I would have liked to have felt like there was real danger and, therefore, something at stake. As it was, it was all "wink wink, nudge, nudge" foolishness.
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Checkout the clip here www.strangeobsession.com
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Aug. 28, 2012, 10:40 p.m. CST
...and Barney pokes his head in - "legen - wait for it - -- dary"
by cozy
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I'm betting a lot of her scenes ended up on the cutting room floor, not a terribly convincing actress that one... Plus the whole deal with teasing the end at the beginning THEN starting the movie is derivative and lazy. Good call all around.
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Good thing they didn't go with this.
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And you guys are still playing along? Haven't figure it out yet?
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...that you guys have to wait so long for your copy. I live in New Zealand and am going to pick up my Avengers bluray tomorrow. ;)
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Aug. 29, 2012, 5:54 a.m. CST
That one street in NY looks fairly messed up after that city-wide alien invasion.
by buggerbugger
Fuck, that woman's acting is terrible in that clip. The clip itself looks like something from a by-the-numbers US television series.
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That scene blew chunks! It's no surprise that Whedon cut it from the final film.
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Not one character created by Kirby without Lee is on those "100 greatest" lists. Many that Lee created without Kirby are. The Marvel Bullpen was a collaborative environment, and either all those artists were lying their asses off, or Stan was sitting at the center of that web, working with and directing, creating and collaborating. It isn't about which characters you personally like: I tried to check out Kirby's work away from Marvel, and found the art wonderful, and the writing utterly "blah"--and I was a Kirby fan. But look at the combined voting of fandom for which characters they love. Kirby didn't create anything away from Stan on those lists. Stan did create things separate from Kirby on those lists. Kirby is the greatest comic artist in history. Stop trying to make him more of a god than he actually is--it cheapens his memory.
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As i mentioned earlier, Kirby may not be the greatest writer, but he had contributed alot when it came to concepts during the Lee Kirby era. I hate it when Lee makes it all about him to an extent of saying on TV "I created The Black Panther" (originally called The Coal Tiger) when that's contrary to the evidence. Sure he may have given some input about said character but it's not all his idea as he made it out to be. Nothing that anyone can say or do would cheapen Jack's memory.However, there's still that grave injustice in regards to how he was treated by Marvel at the end. And it's about time those fuckers made amends by giving some of their profits to the (Kirby) estate. Also what has Lee done or created after Kirby left Marvel? Those rinky dink cartoon characters like Mosaic,Striperella were sorely lacking in vision and dynamic and can't touch Kirby's original creations. (Post Lee/Marvel) I really don't have too much to say about Stan, he's a nice guy as I have met him in person but he has to live with the "guilt" via past attrocities. Thanks to the internet, more and more Comic fans are aware of Marvel's shady past and mistreatment of contributors like Kirby,Ditko,Wein,Cockrum,etc. Share the Wealth, Marvel!
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His "15 minutes" are long overdue.
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Aug. 29, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST
My bad, Blanket, I guess I need to get the Wax outta my ears. LOL
by Stalkeye
Harry Dean's voice was off kilter a bit.
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I think Disney should give a gift of one million dollars to the Kirby family. But I NEVER heard Stan speak of Jack as less than a genius. The fact that Stan played company politics better is a simple fact, and perhaps he could have been a better friend. But I was reading Marvel at the Bullpen's peak. Jack was the King, but there were many other artists who worked there at the same time, and the flow of characters and plots was simply astounding. No comic writer "creates" a character without an artist, so asking "what Stan created alone" is just the wrong question. The regrettable "Stripperella" type stuff happened after Stan was 60 years old, for Christ's sake, long after his peak creative period. Jack Kirby was a comic god. Period. Anyone who says less hasn't looked at the fantastic output. But man...unless EVERYONE at the time was lying, so is Stan. He's old now. Let's concentrate on getting Jack's family what they deserve, not attacking a 90 year old man.
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Aug. 29, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST
For those knocking her acting chops, she actually shows great comedic timing on HIMYM
by kidicarus
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Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking aliens on this motherfucking planet!
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Aug. 29, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST
Well, we now know thing about thing about Maria Hill: She's a backstabber.
by Mr. Pricklepants
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i know people didnt really like him but his death really got to me, also sabretooth in age of apocalypse
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I remember one of the first things I said to the people I saw this movie with when we got in the car was "and damn, how hot was that SHIELD girl" I've never seen her in anything else, don't even know her name, but she is absolutely smoking
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Aug. 29, 2012, 2:09 p.m. CST
Well, we now know one thing about Maria Hill: She's a backstabber.
by Mr. Pricklepants
This website seriously needs an Edit function.
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Aug. 29, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST
Good thing we can all agree that Lee & Kirby are both absolute geniuses and the most iconic and important creators in the history of comics
by kevred
There's simply no competition. Arguing over them individually is like John vs. Paul - there's no point. They're the best, they contributed to the best creations ever in complementary ways, and everything else is splitting hairs.
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Aug. 29, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST
@nametaken - the street scene looked like a set because it was a set, at least partially.
by kevred
It always bugged me, from the trailers to the film, how "small" that scene felt, despite the large amount of stuff in the shots. Then I saw the behind-the-scenes joke reel, and realized that there was a lot of green-screen stuff with digital "sets". If I could change one thing about this film (that I enjoyed immensely), it would be to add some visual gravity to it. I know you have to use CG to pull off such big fantasy battles, but it's almost like nobody involved seemed to be in a real space. It took away the gravity of everything that was happening. Somewhere in there may be part of the motivation to move the Marvel stuff into the cosmic area.
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Aug. 29, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST
i don't understand the Cobie hate so what if you think she phoned in the part, but to call her unattractive is lowering the Bar.
by Stalkeye
Anyone who is honest enuff would "Hit dat". unless of course: A.) You have a harem of Gorgeous Ladies B.) You're Gay C.) Asexual D.) Married...well that's somewhat close to "C" I wouldn't kick her out of my Bed, as oppossed to some Women I actually did.
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The Avengers was good but let's be honest here, it's overrated. The only reason it gave you man children multiple orgasms is because it surprisingly didn't suck and it wasn't a disappointment like so many other recent blockbusters.
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Aug. 29, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST
"And Fury has a dick the size of a tootsie roll....junior".
by Smerdyakov
Maria Hill tells all.
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you're not crazy. its some of the inmates here are taking over the asylum.
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Aug. 29, 2012, 11:07 p.m. CST
I cant wait to see Thor and "extremis" Iron Man fighting foes in space
by Balkin Flabgurter
im almost sad, there is no way phase 2 can live up to what i am now expecting because of avengers, Avengers gave me hope i did not have before and i am afraid i am probably going to be let down. But again, that's what me and every other homo said about Avengers so....
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Glad it was cut
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Aug. 30, 2012, 12:22 a.m. CST
it surprisingly didn't suck and it wasn't a disappointment
by Larry Sellers
Yes. Yes, that would be why people like it.
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Aug. 30, 2012, 1:32 a.m. CST
This scene doesn't make ANY sense in the context of the film.
by TheMcflyFarm
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Could have easily gone in front of the opening sequence that they did use. Might have been even more effective, foreshadowing the aftermath of the climactic battle as it does. And Cobie Smulders (or Cobie *Smolders*, as I call that particular sexy wench!) does just fine. She's being debriefed (and not in the fun way) by either those stick-up-the-ass bastards that nearly nuked NYC or the SHIELD equivalent of Internal Affairs immediately after hell almost literally broke loose and the Avengers stopped it. She SHOULD seem a little wooden in that situation!
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SUPERFLY!
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Aug. 30, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
There should have been a delted scene in which Harry Dean Staton reprises his lines from Red Dawn.
by Stalkeye
"Avenge me..." AVENGE ME"!!
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I was afraid Hawkeye was going to get offed at any point in the movie. He was just that character. The fact that the one character who could keep the team from melting and being torn apart was a massive green hulk. Again, the tension of the fact that two humans were fighting with the avengers vs aliens. Stan Lee's cameo. You assumed Hulk's death. The cool characters always die in these hero squad movies. See Scott summer in X:2 or Darwin in X-men: First Class. Jazz in Transformers.
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Bring something like this to the screen http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/830672/star-wars-the-clone-wars-season-5-trailer-2.jhtml#id=1656980 Untouchable, SCI-FI entertainment of the highest levels.
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Aug. 30, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST
Ugh, yeah, it's a terrible scene. Wrong tone, badly written, badly shot, and really badly acted. Making saving the world a "mistake"?
by kevred
Kind of hard to believe they even shot this, it's so out of joint with the tone of the end of the film. Glad they decided that in the end, getting a bunch of superheroes together was fun and successful, not some kind of brooding disaster.
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Her acting in the movie was terribe. She's extremely pretty, and very likable on that TV show, but she was way out of her element and her league in this movie. It's a good movie, but people have seemed to really overrate it. It was fun, very exciting for the final 45 minutes, amusing at times (most especially Hulk vs. Loki), and did a good job of setting up all of these superheroes who have had their own movies to this point. But it was also formulaic, had almost no tension, and was predictable. That doesn't make it bad; it just makes it a well-made summer popcorn movie.
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