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Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith get 3-D release dates

Published at: Aug. 26, 2012, 11:50 p.m. CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. At Celebration, Lucasfilm announced release dates for their upcoming 3-D rereleases of Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. The Phantom Menace did okay business, but made less (not even counting inflation or the 3-D surcharge) than even Return of the Jedi did upon its 97 re-release, so there was some question as to whether or not the further Star Wars movies were headed to theaters.

 

 

Now that question can be put to rest. Attack of the Clones 3-D hits movie screens September 20, 2013 and Revenge of the Sith follows it a few weeks later, on October 11th.

Could be my bias against the prequels, but this decision smacks of "get to the good stuff" to me. They were already locked in to the Episodes 1-VI line-up and when Phantom Menace underperformed (both Titanic and Lion King outpaced it) I bet you anything the thought was "let'sget to the ones people want to see quicker" even if nobody would ever say that to Mr. Lucas.

So, instead of a prolonged time between Clones and Sith, we'll get them out of the way quickly and I bet we'll see the original trilogy on the big screen (in fancy 3D) shortly afterwards.

I'll be curious to see if the original Star Wars films can still draw bigger box office than the prequels upon their rereleases, but more from a self-vindication standpoint than anything, really. No matter what, I hope they all perform because I like the nationwide giant re-release platform and want to see more vintage cinema in real deal big outings, not just exclusive one-evening showings. The more money these things make, the more likely we'll see more of it. Now if we can just get the studios comfortable with 2D re-releases...

-Eric Vespe
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  • Aug. 26, 2012, 11:54 p.m. CST

    We'll all go to see 'Empire'

    by Can_I_Get_Any_Of_You_Cunts_A_Drink

    other than that, who gives a fuck. Now, can I get, any of you cunts, a drink?

  • Aug. 26, 2012, 11:55 p.m. CST

    TPM-3D still beat some new stuff like John Carter

    by StarWarsRedux

    At any rate, I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually release all of the OT in 3D all in a several-month timespan, the way the SE's were given in '97. The mistake is in doing one movie a year, not the movies themselves-- ideally, I'd like to see TPM-3D given a brief re-rerun before AOTC and ROTS. One trilogy a year makes sense. <p> <p>But that's just because I'd like to see TPM on a big screen again. I like it that much.

  • Aug. 26, 2012, 11:55 p.m. CST

    First to say I'd like a 3D re-release of Willow

    by Joe

    Underrated classic.

  • Aug. 26, 2012, 11:55 p.m. CST

    skipped Phantom Menace

    by TheMcflyFarm

    was actually thinking about seeing it but missed out. maybe I'll check out Revenge of the Sith, which is up there with the original trilogy IMO.

  • Aug. 26, 2012, 11:56 p.m. CST

    That picture is funny.

    by adeceasedfan

    That is all.

  • Aug. 26, 2012, 11:57 p.m. CST

    I'll give REVENGE OF THE SITH another viewing.

    by Stifler's Mom

    Saw it twice in 2005 and liked it. ATTACK OF THE CLONES is awful.

  • Aug. 26, 2012, 11:57 p.m. CST

    I dunno. I kind of wish they stuck to the one a year thing

    by Proman1984

  • Still made over $100 million in re-release.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Here in Sweden Ep1 was f-ing dubbed to swedish, like the kids movie it is

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    To me that is the ultimate proof what kind of movie that is. Normally mostly/only cartoons get dubbed. Now I wonder what the hell they will do with the real SW movies. There's no way they can dub Empire and sell that as a kids cartoon.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:15 a.m. CST

    All I can think of at this point is

    by Smartacus

    So what?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Speaking of completists...

    by Heartland

    ...the Star Wars Christmas Special seems especially ripe for the 3D treatment! :)

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:20 a.m. CST

    No more money to Lucasfilm until...

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    ....they release unedited, in-cgi'd but remastered versions of Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. The prequels don't fucking exist. The CGI changes since the 90's don't exist. And until they simply remaster the originals without any other fuckery, the chances of Lucasfilm getting any more money from me doesn't exist ether.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Hey George Lucas...

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    I'd totally buy a hugely expensive Star Wars 3D BluRay box set. Although I didn't even buy that last box set. Although I hate 3D and will never ever buy a 3D TV and put those silly glasses on and get a headache at home. But I'll only buy that next box set if you include a decent version of the unaltered classic trilogy in 2D as an extra. It needn't even be a super duper fucking my eyeballs unlike anything I've ever seen before or will again version, just a decent one. Because I actually like some imperfections. Deal?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST

    I never really appreciated one aspect of the mid '80s to the mid 90s

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    when I could go for years without hearing anything about STAR WARS.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST

    vintage cinema?

    by grassh0pperunit

    How can these be "vintage cinema" when Sir Waddle Neck won't release the original versions of Episodes IV-VI in theaters, Blu-ray, or DVD?

  • But I keep giving that asshole more of my $$.

  • ...and ROTS release sped up only 3-4 months TPM was released in Jan/Feb, if I remember correctly. If it were truly "one a year," we'd be getting AOTC in a few months, not over a year from *now.* Maybe they came across some technical issues applying 3D to AOTC and to compensate are bringing forward ROTS. I wouldn't count on the original trilogy coming out any faster, unless GL has come up with some sort of process that he's happy with for applying post-production 3D that speeds up how quickly he can get it out. Just my $.02.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Natalie Portman's toned stomach in 3D

    by darthpigman

    I'm there.

  • Cameron put in the time, money and effort on Titanic's 3D conversion and the result was spectacular. The 3D in TPM, however, was, ironically, flat and lifeless. It just felt like I was watching the 2D with big glasses on. I'll be skipping AOTC and ROTS 3D. I'll await the initial reactions to ANH's conversion.

  • Please tell me this awful CG shot is NOT in the Blu Ray release. Apparently this insertion was done without Spielberg's approval. It's three seconds of a truck going off a cliff but it sticks out like a sore thumb. Horrible.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Might as well just go all the way with it...

    by Chuck

    ...,and do the Holiday Special in 3d too. I would absolutely go to see that.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:24 a.m. CST

    I will DEFINITELY see A New Hope, Empire, and Return in 3D...

    by bubcus

    ... and I am making a party out of it and bringing my friends. Lucas has my money for that, no problem. Even a re-release of Willow in theaters will have my money.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Honestly, not gonna see any of them

    by Steve Lamarre

    Fuck 3D. And Lucas should have surrounded himself with more people who he knew could be honest with him. Fuck Lucas.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:42 a.m. CST

    I saw PHANTOM MENACE 3D and had a fine time.

    by Bob Loblaw Law Blog

    Sure, a lot of the movie is not fantastic. But, the pod race and Darth Maul fight scenes are still pretty bad ass. And it looked great in 3D. I'll definitely see the rest. And, really, we all knew they were going to get to the all six eventually so these can be released in 3D for home viewing in a few years. C'mon.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:51 a.m. CST

    TPM 3D was the first time I couldn't tolerate the format

    by Retlaw Kciuq

    Gave me the worst headache and it felt like someone removed my eyeballs and threw them into a vice and started squeezing and the worst part about it is the fact I can still feel them. Anyhow, another negative Prequel article. We're seven years past, no need to make another remark. I thought AICN was about bashing Nolan and kissing Marvel's ass now?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:52 a.m. CST

    I'm all for a TEMPLE OF DOOM in 3D

    by Chris

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Disappointing...

    by RobinP

    I too was expecting to see AOTC in Jan/Feb. But, there ya go. I rewatched the original trilogy last week on DVD for the first time in four years and y'know - despite the Ewoks being a clue to the whimsy of characters like Jar Jar down the line... those three movies are so much more downright fun to watch and entertaining than the prequels.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Yippeeeeeeeeeee!

    by buggerbugger

    NooooooOOOOOOOoooooooo! Fuck you, Darth Vader.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Now we get to see Lucas rape our childhood in 3D

    by leroyspoboys

    Greaaaaaaaaat. Can't wait. Really. Haven't been this excited since I had my toenails pulled out with a rusty spoon.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:27 a.m. CST

    I'd pay to see the original 3 on the bic screen again.

    by Volstaff

    The prequels? no, but a big hell yes to the first three. I'd rather see them done in IMAX rather than 3d, but oh well.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:30 a.m. CST

    3D stands for...

    by T0KY0SEXWHALE

    ...the 3 Don'ts.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:30 a.m. CST

    I meant to write "big" not Bic.

    by Volstaff

    Though come to think of it, the prequels might look better on a small, bic lighter sized screen, to match their feel. Or something.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Empire is my favorite film of all time, so I have to see it.

    by Randy

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Bored now with the Lucas bashing.

    by Gabba-UK

    It's just so very tiring now. Nothing new can be said on the subject. It's the geek equivalent of Godwins Law. Just move on people, there lots of other movies to watch.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:42 a.m. CST

    can't wait for revenge of the sith on IMAX

    by la te ral us

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Stop talking about the original trilogy. It doesn't exist anymore.

    by BEHEM Pascal

    Too many dumb changes over the years, up to that fateful "Nooooooooooooo!!!" in Jedi. hint_of_smegma's post is right on the money. Nothing to add.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Now can we get the originals unaltered on Blu?

    by SithMenace

    Lucas should take a hint from his friend Spielberg, who I think is subtly trying to show him the correct way btw, and release the original films in outstanding hi-def transfers on blu-ray. I know it's coming from mr. double triple dip, but sooner would be much better than later.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 3:11 a.m. CST

    This has to be tasted to be believed

    by Glenn

    Just tried the Turkey Bolognese from Trader Joes. Pretty damn good.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 3:11 a.m. CST

    TV show is a smokescreen

    by Levi Tinker

    Still think, that the live action TV is a smokescreen, and either once we get to the OT 3D releases or after ROTS3D comes out, Lucasfilm will announce production on Star Wars episode VII 3D

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST

    I have not spent money on Star Wars in years

    by SithMenace

    And it will stay that way until Lucas gets his head out of his ass and realizes the prequels are for kids and retards, and that that's only part of his fan base.

  • You guys are getting slow.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Really over 3D.

    by AttackingClone

    I just don't feel it adds anything at all to a movie experience. Big waste of time IMHO. I saw TPM in 3D when it was out and I liked seeing it on a big screen again but the 3D was hardly noticed. I do enjoy the theatre going experience but I may as well sit at home and watch my 45' tv with surround (only 5.1, poor me).

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 3:50 a.m. CST

    I think it will save a lot of time for everyone if I just say....

    by The_All_Dead

    I don't give a FUCK about any of this,then every poster after me can just type "ditto"

  • Jon Stewart asked Lucas for his thoughts on the criticism of the prequels. Lucas said "It's just fiction. You either like it or you don't. It's not something to get so worked up over". And I have to agree. Put things in perspective. They're just movies.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Agree attackingclone, have never understood the appeal of 3D.

    by Todd1700

    Having a few objects seem to bulge to-wards you? And to get this shitty little meaningless effect that adds nothing to the viewing experience of the film I have to pay more than regular admission price and sit there wearing a pair of ridiculous glasses that look like they were cut off the back of a fucking box of breakfast cereal. No thanks. I also have no desire to ever see any of the SW prequels again. God awful movies the lot of them.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 4:52 a.m. CST

    I so give two shits about Lucas' overpimping of his franchise.

    by Stalkeye

    Talk about beating a dead...Tauntaun.

  • Even the original trilogy. Heresy, I know... but let's be real here - if the scripts for the original 3 hadnt been put to film until today, people would have a lukewarm (ha! luke) reception for them at best. They succeeded so wildly because at the time, we'd never seen something quite like that. Dont get me wrong - they were pretty good - but full disclosure? They were never THAT amazing as to incite people to frothing rants if Lucas releases some stinkers. prequels were pretty meh - no qualms there .... but were they really THAT far removed from the first 3? I dont think so - particularly when you think about what lucas would have done to them if hed had todays cgi at his disposal. to that end, the originals were only better because lucas couldnt get his grubby hands on cgi and do whatever the fuck he wanted. they were a product of restricting technology more so than lucas changing. but that's just my view. grain of salt. in the end...it's just movies.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 5:30 a.m. CST

    the question is... was there an episode 7-9???

    by Norman Colson

    I remember lucas mentioning that but never clarifying. I love the future star wars stuff, they need to get past all this prequel shit we've already brought all 3 on blu-ray! why the fuck would i spend my hard earned money on something ive already seen. unless it was a cheaper price like 1/2 the price for an adult ticket i aint paying for this shit.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 6:10 a.m. CST

    No thanks

    by Shawn F.

    Blu-ray pretty much killed any and all chances of me returning to the theaters to watch these films again. Actually, the fact that I would have to sit through "Attack of the Z's" again (and in 3D to boot) was enough to keep me the fuck away from the theater.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 6:27 a.m. CST

    can't wait to see empire in 3d

    by Pipple

    Love star wars, love parts of jedi, fuck the prequels. But empire, maaaan, what a film. It's in my opinion able to stand alongside truly great films that have depth and subtlety etc. I was watching it a few days ago for the fuck of it, and what struck me was how good the acting was, like that part where vader changes the deal with lando, I was actually really impressed by billy d's little head shake as he realized he'd never reason with vader... shit, I was like daamn, that's actually good emoting. yeah...

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 6:28 a.m. CST

    For anyone who says the prequels didn't exist

    by DickButtkiss

    They grossed about two billion bucks worldwide, so yeah they did exist.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Saw the Demo at Star Wars Celebration, HURT MY EYES. TOO DEEP This time.

    by JediChris1138

    HURT MY DAMN EYES! I love 3D movies, but whoever they've got to do these sucks. The first one was FLAT. This one was WAAAAY to deep. I don't get what's up with 3D movies. Some look utterly like crap, very few converted films look any good. Some of ALICE IN WONDERLAND was really good, but that's about all I can think of that I really liked. I heard some of Transformers was converted, but I couldn't spot which scenes were. Anyway, they need to figure it out. I have always, ALWAYS wanted to see Star Wars in 3D. Why does it have to suck?

  • Get on with it. I mean, how many people will watch Attack of the Shitfest in 3D 11 years after the original release?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Also, are they releasing 2D versions of the movies as well?

    by Ricardo

  • Only time this hasn't been true is with the ends of AVENGERS and TF3, both large-scale citywide battles. I think something about the many layers of depth in those sequences really helps push the 3D illusion.

  • Are you an angel?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:22 a.m. CST

    The originals were available on DVD. I have all three.

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Why didn't you all buy them so you can go and watch them and quit making uninformed fucking idiotic comments on here about them not having been released on DVD? <p> Idiots.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Waaaah but they're not anamorphic!!!!!

    by kwisatzhaderach

    So what? Blow them up to fit your screen, the picture quality is still pretty good and miles ahead of your VHS copies. <p> Fuck's sake.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Incidentally, the 3D viewing of TPM i saw was atrocious.

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Barely and noticeable 3D and the projection light levels were shockingly low. Hopefully there will be an improvement for AOTC.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:27 a.m. CST

    I would rather see Spaceballs 3D at this point

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Dark Helmet's Schwartz in 3D would be AMAZING!

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:27 a.m. CST

    ESB is the only one I'm paying to see in 3DDD

    by ATARI

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:28 a.m. CST

    You mean "Pinch off dates" right?

    by Sodomy_Joe_Shitpants

    Pure loaf, these films, in any D.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:46 a.m. CST

    What hint of smegma said

    by UltraTron

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Attack of the Clones is just awful

    by Jackson

    Way worse than phantom menace

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Not one more dime...

    by Mikey Wood

    ...not one single damned dime will that man make off of me anymore. After the "Special Editions" and then the prequels and then Indy 4... ...nope. Not a dime.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Attack of the Clones is an Ed Wood flick with a budget

    by nephilim138

    Total shit throughout.

  • have to understand the irony of someone like me not owning these films. I have literally a 200 foot screen and 400watt mono-blocks on every speaker etc. It was built for these movies. It's not that I'm making a stance or anything I just don't like being appalled and furious. That's what happens when you watch this ret-conned shit. Everything is going along and you forget and just think you're watching the movie and then some new atrocity change comes on. Like having your rhubarb rubbed noogy style with a cheese grater

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Everyone has (at least) a gripe about this site. Here's mine.

    by kstewandthecuntsman

    Why did I have to find out this morning, (ON THE SHITTER, no less!), that Horshack died a few weeks ago? Were was the dedicated talkback for that piece of business? Where was Harry eulogizing the man? Where was The KIDD vs. Horshack? You bastards dropped the ball, BIG TIME!

  • Didn't TPM 3D give birth to that switching phenomenon?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Walked out halfway thru Clones

    by David Duchovny

    Gave it another shot a few weeks ago. Sat through the whole thing this time. It truly is a horrible movie.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Clones is the affirmative answer to the question...

    by David Duchovny

    Could someone really give a worse performance as Anakin than Jake Lloyd?

  • The studios do need to lower prices on all re-releases, but I do hope we get more of it. I'd love to see Close Encounters on the big screen....

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Revenge of the Sith was awful.

    by Volllllume3

    Such an infuriating script.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Yippee!

    by Pablo

    I would be more willing pay money for these Star Wars flicks if Christopher Lee was given a musical or dance number and routine.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    The 3D conversion for the TPM was a bit soft...

    by Dan

    The pod race popped, as did the Maul duel, but most of it was a bit underwhelming, not horrible, just not innovative. Promethus is still the template for 3D, IMAX too, that movie was a gorgeous.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    My 3D experience was the lousy theater I was in..

    by Dan

    That's most of the problem or the success of 3D, if the light is low, forget about any enjoyment.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 9 a.m. CST

    How did TPM "Underperform?"

    by Dan

    It did over $100 million...not bad for straight profit... the profits will pay for the follow-ups conversions and the rest goes to charity.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST

    *TV show is a smokescreen*

    by DocPazuzu

    *after ROTS3D comes out, Lucasfilm will announce production on Star Wars episode VII 3D* Yep, historian_levi, you're absolutely right. And Sifo-Dyas will be announced as director.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Re: kwistatzhaderach

    by Yukon Cornelius

    kwisatzhaderach said: Why didn't you all buy them so you can go and watch them and quit making uninformed fucking idiotic comments on here about them not having been released on DVD? Kwistatz, I'll give you those bonus theatrical version dvds WERE state of the art... ...in 1993, but in 2006?! In 2012?!? The Definitive Collection was definitely a GREAT laserdisc box set for its time and looked and sounded pretty good on a 20" cathode ray tube tv and surround receiver, but come on man, time marches on and those were ancient, obsolete transfers that were simply slapped on dvd and released 13 years later in a cheap ass move by Lucasfilm to placate us non-SE Original Trilogy fans--in this era of high def blu ray and 60" flat screen hdtvs, they JUST DON'T CUT IT. Star Wars wasn't some low budget MST3K fodder like Laserblast or something, these were some of the biggest films of all time--and yet a B-movie like Laserblast had a better damn dvd release than the original Star Wars trilogy! It's kind of absurd if you ask me. And fans of the originals will continue to bitch and moan until this situation is remedied--either by Lucasfilm itself or some enterprising individual with decent 35mm theatrical prints of the originals, some scanning equipment, and a bit of free time and gumption; I'm not holding my breath for Lucasfilm to do it.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    yeah I guess Prometheus had a few good 3D moments

    by Autodidact

    But I really found it easier to take in in 2D.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    @zodlovesmaud

    by nametaken

    aren't those the only scenes to care about? when on dvd in your home you are going to be fast forwarding through so much of the movie anyhow.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Wake me up for a (Greedo-shot-first-free) ANH & Empire...

    by obijuanmartinez

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Only thing that should've been added to "A New Hope": The Imperial March

    by obijuanmartinez

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Too much to hope for Star Wars & Empire Strikes Back

    by jim

    will be converted to 3D from the original theatrical releases and not the Special Editions or whatever the newest CG tinkered versions are called? Yeah, I'll probably go see them regardless, but still. Another idea: I could also get a second TV, another copy of the original films on VHS, play them side-by-side with home-made stereoscopic glasses.

  • Please tell me you spit in his face.

  • You get what you ask for.

  • But it'll be tacked on distracting 3-D, 2K files, and probably more bizzare additions, no thanks.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    I'll just stay home and watch the VHS widescreen faces tapes I have

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Or even the 2004 version of the special editions released on DVD.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Attack of the Clones is probably the worst film

    by Samuel Fulmer

    To have Lucas behind it. Hell, even Howard the Duck has it's moments.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Other than Fanboys...people are just burned out on Star Wars

    by conspiracy

    With the seemingly hundreds of special releases, reissues, animated spin offs, expanded universes, video games...people are just fucking tired of it, they've milked the cow dry. And yes..Fuck 3D...especially conversions. Why pay $16 to see a film you've probably seen 20 times, at the theater, at home, on your computer, etc...just because it is in 3D?

  • and that is because Lucas had so very little to do with it.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Don't get the hate for AOTC

    by darthflagg

    It's far closer in quality to ROTS and the OT than TPM. Really, the only major things wrong with it are the love story and Anakin's constant whining. The story and action is great. Especially the last 40 minutes, which for me is as spectacular and enjoyable as sci-fi action cinema gets.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    attackingclone, Kudos to you for having a

    by Clark Kunt

    attackingclone, Kudos to you for having a TV at home that measures 45 feet (because you wrote 45', which means 45 feet. 45" means 45 inches). Congrats! Do you get that at Best Buy?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Darren Aranofsky or James Gunn for EPISODE VII...

    by SeXX ED

    ... THERE'S your shot in the arm, folks \,/ (>_<) \,,/

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:24 p.m. CST

    SAMUEL FULMER...

    by SeXX ED

    ... I totally agree, brother.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Attack of the Clones issues

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Zero memorable characters, Horrilbe early HD cam cinematrography, Severe John Williams score hack job in the last act, Video Gamey action sequences that have no sense of jeopardy and go on forever, terrible plot, total squandering of Christopher Lee, horrible acting (other than Ewan Macgreagor), terrible 3rd grade level dialogue, stupid C-3PO loses his head sub-plot that wouldn't even cut it in a 1986 Star Comics Droids comic book, and that Yoda flying all over the place "fight" at the end.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Does this mean you guys won't be watching Star Wars Detours when it airs?

    by kindofabigdeal

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    At least Phantom Menace had a good score

    by Samuel Fulmer

    And was shot on film. Okay that's two good things, but that's two more good things than Clones.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    EXACTLY! I'm still puzzled by Eddie Furlong's casting in T2

    by Ricardo

    He had no acting experience before, and obviously didn't have a natural talent for it. He was cast in what I like to call "Paedo-casting" - when you cast pre pubescent kids/teens based on their looks. I think I recall hearing on "Arlington Road" commentary track how they had discussions about casting a kid as Jeff Bridge's son without being oversexualizing the part - which creeps me out so deeply, I wonder what happens in Hollywood these days.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST

    SAMUEL FULMER...

    by SeXX ED

    ... amen. Wouldn't it have been cold-blooded to see Yoda own Dooku whilst his little green feet never leave the ground? AND how about a camera angle that didn't have the dueling characters COMPLETELY OBSCURED by a massive digital backdrop?

  • Clean up the matte work/lines and add the two action sequences that were filmed but taken out so it could get a PG (the two armies fighting near the crossroads, and when Willow fights a fish monster after picking up Fin Raziel on the island).

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Lightsaber duels in the old films

    by Samuel Fulmer

    It seemed like two medieval knights fighting, in the prequels it was two ninjas fighting. Granted two ninjas fighting may look cool, but it also can look silly too.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Elderly woman ruins Ecce Homo painting by attempting to restore it.

    by Read and Shut Up

    Suck on that, George.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    The Problem with the Prequels

    by A G

    Around 7 AND A HALF HOURS of movie and roughly 9-10 minutes of good Star Wars feeling scenes. The rest is mind bogglingly bad. None of us can step back and properly appreciate how bad it is because of our childhoods. Episode 2 has aged so badly in 10 years that it is completely unwatchable from start to finish.

  • Are you people fucking retarded? If you think Lucas had little to do with Empire, than you are fucking nuts. The discrediting of Lucas has become such a pathetic joke. Even when you have Kershner on film, who's done nothing of worth before or after Empire mind you, credits Lucas with an abundance of ideas seen in the film. And Lucas has done the same for him at every instance. It's called a collaboration. But deny, deny. Live in a fucking fantasy. And now people are bashing A New Hope and Jedi, saying Empire is the only great one? You guys fully deserve all you whine about. Whatever Lucas has done, you guys have been just as worse.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Just watched Episode 2 recently...again...on blu...

    by Dan

    Still holds up... saw it opening night when the crowd went ape shit during Yoda's duel- just an awesome experience.

  • But Kershner actually was the one to draw good perfomances out of the actors. I think there's even a famous Mark Hamill anecdote where Kershener said a take came out great and Hamill asked him if it was the effects or the acting and Kershner said he would only say something came out great if it was the acting. Much of the dialogue was rewritten/ad libbed too on set. And apparently Lucas wasn't on the set as much as he was on Jedi with Marquand (which word is Lucas did preaty much "ghost" direct) because Kershner was a mentor of Lucas' from his USC days.

  • however, you'll make it all back on the original trilogy! damn!

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Stop kidding yourself

    by RodMan

    There are bad moments in the prequels to be sure, and I am one of the more vocal ones at that. However, there are also great moments. Those that do not see that are simply "bandwagoneers" or "gravy-train riders" that simply follow the company line just do be hip with the rest. ROTS has an 80% approval on rottentomatoes...that's pretty good, folks.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST

    The Rotten Tomatoes Sith arguement

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I doubt once the 3-D release is out it'll still be at 80%. I know PM went from fresh to rotten once the 3-D one came out this year.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    I love me some Star Wars.

    by Yelsaeb

    I'll be first in line to see all of these.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    SITH argument

    by RodMan

    So, even if it drops a couple percent, that wont matter. It would still be a damn good 78%. Either way, 7.2 overall rating. Again, very solid movie, folks. Just saying.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Not one fucking penny. Not one cent. Not ever. Not TILL I DIE.

    by Raptor Jesus

    That's how much money I'll spend on GL crap. Star Wars is dead to me.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Love these movies.

    by Dranem

    I just look at the prequels of the stage setter and the original trilogy as the awesome personal story of a bunch of friends kicking some ass. And yes, I am old enough to have seen the originals in the theaters. I think Clones and Sith would look awesome in 3D, especially the Battle over Coruscant in Sith. I don't care that other people don't enjoy all the movies like I do, just getting REALLY tired of all the cheap jabs in what should be a news story on this site. I still contend that overall Sith>Jedi save for the last few moments. That Luke and Vader stuff is powerful, especially when Luke goes apeshit as the camera tracks him swinging at Vader with that chorus rising. Damn thats probably my favorite scene in the whole saga.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    The ONLY great Star Wars film was EMPIRE

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Fuck off with that revisionist bullshit. There were TWO great Star Wars films: Empire AND the original. It seems that disgruntled Lucas-hating fanboys have to go to through perverse contortions to write the man out of his own legacy. It certainly has little to do with any kind of objective reality and is mostly down to their own bloated egos. Ditto for the pervasive, and utterly inaccurate, perception that Lucas had little to do with Empire. He had PLENTY to do with it. Most of the screenplay drafts were written by him. He dictated the dark tone and the unpredictable structure. And he was on-set for a good portion of the production. Lucas is the figure responsible for the core reasons that Empire was so great. It certainly wasn't the director of Robocop 2 and Never Say Never Again.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Two things that totally kill Sith for me

    by Samuel Fulmer

    The explanation for why Anakin decides to join Palpatine, and the poor acting job by Christenson. The Vader/Obi Wan/Palpatine dynamic is what is driving the story, yet it's just not pulled off, and everything comes off as too rushed with prequel no.3. You get two movies that are backstory to the backstory, and then when you get to the actual backstory, there ain't much to it. Plus you get all these Jedis' getting killed there in the middle, and there's like zero emotion to what's going on on-screen because you have nothing invested in the dude who has cucumbers hanging from his head, or the phallic looking dude with the beard. And then when you do have a sequence that is at least coming off somewhat competantly (the transformation into Vader) you get that comical over the top NOOOOOOOOOOOO scene that just kills it. To me there's one really good scene in that film, and it's the opening dog fight over Coruscant. It's the only time in the prequels that a space fight comes close to the excitement and scope of the OT.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Plus it was shot HD

    by Samuel Fulmer

    So like Clones a lot of it looks like made for BBC garbage, but at least it does look more professional than the ghastly Clones.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Lucas wrote the treatment/outline to Empire

    by Samuel Fulmer

    He didn't write a draft. Leigh Bracket took the first crack at a script based on a Lucas story treatment, Brackets draft was basically unuseable, Lucas wrote a further treatment/outline, Kasden came in and wrote the actual screenplay, and even then much of the dialogue that he wrote was re-written/ad libbed on set. Read the Making of Empire book that came out a few years back that was actually made by Lucas and you'll find out as much. Sure Lucas deserves a shitload of credit when it comes to the plot, the visual look of the universe (but maybe not so much the actual cinematography by Peter Suschitzky which I assume was more in collaboration with Kershner), and the fact that he chose Kershner, but from all accounts he was the least hands on with that film as any of the Star Wars films. He was in America for much of the shoot because he was trying to keep his eyes on what was happening with ILM as well as getting his ranch built in Marin County.

  • So he recut it to 90 minutes, it was awful, and the two hour cut was kept.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Also, despite the egos of Quint and others, the OT isn't going to do any significant re-release business

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    and certainly nothing distinct from the prequels. In fact, I predict that there'll be a trend of rapidly diminishing box office returns. No one - certainly not the general public - gives too much of a fuck about Star Wars anymore. The teat has been milked dry. Other pop culture sci fi/ fantasy franchises - some good, some awful - have taken the shine off it in terms of far-reaching impact: Harry Potter, LOTR/ The Hobbit, Twilight, Pirates of the Caribbean, Hunger Games, the Marvel movies, even franchises to be like Avatar. Star Wars just isn't as special or unique as it once was. Lucas is only partly to blame for this. A good deal of the blame can be laid at the feet of its fanbase, surely the most pathetic in all pop culture outside of Robert Pattinson-worshipping tween girls and middle-aged housewives. THEY took all the fun out of it, tainting even the existing good SW films with their incessant complaining, death threats against Lucas, their constant anal retentiveness and off-putting solemnity over what is essentially a family-friendly sci-fi/ fantasy series. And I believe this has trickled down even to the mass public, who now regard Star Wars and its fans with all the disgusted askance once afforded Trekkies. Star Wars was once at the cutting edge of pop culture in the 70's and early 80's. In the 90's it was revived and was tremendously hip and cool once again. Now it is en passant to all but a sub-group of die-hards who loathe the films yet, at the very same time, are ironically utterly obsessed with them.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    REVENGE OF THE SITH > THE DARK KNIGHT RISES

    by deathbird

    Lucas managed to helm a more elegant, operatic, dynamic trilogy capper than Nolan.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    The 1997 re-release of Star Wars had a lot going for it

    by Samuel Fulmer

    It came out at a time where the whole build up to the prequels was taking off, there were new scenes added, most people who grew up with it as a video staple never got to see it on the big screen, the extended universe stuff was still hot, new Kenner toys were out, etc.....Sure a 3-D release of the "real" Star Wars will probably be the highest grossing of the 6 films, but I doubt it'll break 100 million domestic. That said though, what film could you re-release and even say that about?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    samuel fulmer, you are misinformed

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Lucas wrote not just an outline, but THREE full drafts of Empire, as well as their intermediate revisions. This is detailed in several books that have discussed the development of the Star Wars screenplays at length. Also, as an aside, the Making of Empire book also serves to puncture the mis-appropriation of credit afforded to Gary Kurtz by the Lucas bashers. It reveals that he was, in fact a retcient and overall pretty useless producer, and certainly no creative force.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST

    That should read: 'reticent and, overall, pretty useless producer'

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Preaty sure Lucas didn't write 3 full drafts of Empire

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Don't have the making of Empire book at hand right now, but I'm preaty sure it said he just did long treatments. If three full drafts actually existied, I'd love to read them, because I doubt they actually have much real dialogue in there. And Kurtz was the fall guy for Kershner's going over budget on Empire, even though in retrospective if they didnt', what film would we have? Something closer to Jedi and the prequels I would suspect where there are definite times when you can see Lucas penny penching on full display.

  • And those of you whom suckle at the tip of Georges wrinkled, speckled cock need to think about this... When he had the Full crew, people who could control him and say NO like Gary Kurtz and Marcia Lucas, we got American Graffiti, Star Wars and Empire... When it was JUST George and his hand picked line up of Yes men, we got Ewoks, "Yippee", recycled plots, Interstellar Step n Fetchit, and "Hold me like you did by the Lake on Naboo" Face it..the man has great ideas...but without someone to make them come to life, write the dialog, and say NO to his occasional idiocy he is lost.The man hasn't made a decent fucking film since Empire...even ROTJ was a step down from that high point.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Lucas hates us almost as much as he hates...himself?

    by Darth Macchio

    Like most geeks, I'd shovel out the heavy coin for an uncut original trilogy on blu-ray (with the Blade Runner, Aliens, & Jaws remastering team). I'd probably do it again (or all at once) for 3d versions and I'm not even that psyched on 3d so far. Not sure why he doesn't cash in here - most of us would gladly pay big $$$ for uncut and unedited but quality remastered hi-def versions of the original trilogy. 3d or not. But no...we hurt his feelings when we didn't do clown-suited cartwheels in the streets for how super-dooper awesome and brilliantly written and directed the prequels were. We got mad about midi-chlorians! I mean..do we even have any idea how long it took Lucas to come up with a practical explanation on how the force worked? Hours, at least. Probably more than 5! 5 hours plus! Plus!! Eternity!! Were we really happy with Yoda's explanation from Empire? That whole "binds the galaxy together" mumbo-jumbo? Of course we weren't and Lucas only wanted to make us happy and then after he gift wraps it up for us with a new trilogy, what do we do? We took a giant shit on his tuna-fish-salad-sandwich and told him to bugger off. What assholes we are, eh? (ok, easy target here, i'll admit it....like throwing pies at blind kids who have no arms...kinda makes you feel bad actually)

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST

    conspiracy, you're spot on about everything in your post.

    by one9deuce

    Except for the amount of influence George had on THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. His fingerprints are all over that movie. He steered that screenplay to the eventual perfection it ended up becoming. Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan contributed a lot to the story, but it was George's vision. He also ghost directed a lot of EMPIRE, and even more of RETURN OF THE JEDI. TESB just had the perfect storm of Lucas at his creative peak before he was a studio executive/toy merchandiser. George directed a lot of the action and all of the special effects shots, and Irvin Kershner directed all of the dialogue and dramatic sequences which is why the acting and character work in TESB is so top notch. It's really a shame that Kershner didn't return for ROTJ, because it would have been just as great as EMPIRE. George ghost directed more of ROTJ because Richard Marquand wasn't the force of nature that Kershner was and didn't push the actors like they had been pushed to excellence in TESB. Perfect example: the scene in Cloud City where Han and Leia are discussing what Han plans to do after they leave Bespin was filmed and in the can, but Kershner felt it could be done better and pushed hard to be able to re-film it. He got his way, re-filmed the scene, and made it significantly better. George didn't like spending more budget and so much more time on the characterization and acting, which is one of the big reasons Kershner didn't come back for JEDI.

  • The amount of bullshit that one has to read here is both astonishing and paranoid. That Empire is good because Lucas had little involvement in it, HAAAA HAAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA!!! REALLY?? Lucas had little involvement to the sequel of his creation which at that moment was the most successful movie of all time?? MAYOR BULLCRAP. How can you fucking know? Were you at the sets or something?

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST

    obijuanmartinez, adding The Imperial March to STAR WARS...

    by one9deuce

    is the worst idea. Ever. The score for STAR WARS might just be the most perfect score ever created for a film. It's not just excellent, it's perfect. Can't be improved, even with a great theme like The Imperial March. It doesn't make sense thematically anyway. Darth Vader is a different character in TESB than he is in SW, and the forboding feeling that The Imperial March gives you is perfect for the recently unleashed, totally obsessed with finding Luke, and completely ruthless Vader that emerges in THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. You love the theme. That's great, it's an awesome theme and I love it too. But don't you see that adding it to STAR WARS would take away it's power? Hearing it in EMPIRE for the first time causes goosebumps. Putting it in SW would ruin experiencing it the way it's supposed to be experienced. It's like what George did to his Original Trilogy. He ruined it. Not just with the crappy Prequel Trilogy and the HORRIBLE changes to the OT, but with destroying so many surprises and character moments in the Original Trilogy. Why the fuck is Jabba the Hutt in THE PHANTOM MENACE and the Special Edition of STAR WARS?? One of the most anticipated things of the Original Trilogy was who or what was Jabba the Hutt. As kids we couldn't WAIT to see him finally. And he didn't disappoint, what a great and memorable character, and worth the wait of two movies and 6 years. Anyone watching the films I to VI wouldn't be anticipating him at all! They would have already seen him in a pointless cameo in TPM, and in a completely pointless, repetitive, and terrible scene needlessly added into STAR WARS. Not as egregious, but still annoying is how George handled Boba Fett, Chewbacca, Yoda, Anakin, and The Emperor in the Prequels. Their appearance in the PT totally messes up their first appearance in the OT.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Darthflagg, I agree about AOTC

    by SithMenace

    The best of the prequels (not saying much). Aside from Anakin and Padme it actually felt like an ot SW film. My only other complaint is that Jango actually should have been a young shiny Boba, and not have anything to do with clones.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Drompter, you are correct...

    by Dan

    Most here either lie or spread them when comes to satisfy their fix of bashing Lucas, it's now sport for the tubby, no life man-children who had childhoods raped... very sad...and scary. As for the midi-chlorians- they ARE NOT THE FORCE! Mere messengers of it... Why is this so hard to understand?????? READ THIS NOW..... And if you would pay attention and actually listen with ears your so your eyes can see, that Yoda was warning Luke, he gave reverence to the Force he used a "religious" example, kind of vague; a religious explanation to instill caution and perhaps fear that he wouldn't abuse the force... like his Daddy... What both movies say ARE CORRECT. Yes, it's a biology thing, but it also is religious thing as it's an importat part that "binds the galaxy together..." Make sense? thought so.... For the Jedis, the Force was a biology of sorts... it was what it was...no big deal...No reverence needed nor implied... Notice how Anakin was not given the same speech because they didn't feel that way and bad things had yet to happen. Yoda of course changed his mind, as did Obi Wan when it came time to teach Luke the PROPER way to use the Force..... see the difference?

  • they all make Trekkies look dignified and sophisticated.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Re: The Original Unaltered Trilogy On Blu-Ray (Or Any Other Format)

    by ArmageddonProductions

    You guys realize that Lucas wouldn't even give decent prints of the original, unaltered trilogy to the National Film Preservation Foundation, an organization he's A FUCKING MEMBER OF, right? The best they could get out of him until very recently were some fucked-up original release prints that were deemed unusable for remastering or preservation. After a bit of badgering, he insisted on giving them the Special Editions (not sure whether they were the '97 theatrical versions, the further-altered DVD versions or the most recent and even FURTHER-altered Blu-Ray versions), which they wouldn't accept. To date, if these negatives even exist for remastering (remember, back in '97, Lucas claimed the whole "Special Edition" thing started because the original negatives had deteriorated to the point where it was "now or never"), Lucas ain't relinquishing them even for prestigious posterity via an organization dedicated to the preservation of film classics, let alone so you guys can beat off to bad rotoscoping and Han shooting first on a Blu-Ray player. Granted, I'm on your side here. It's basically watching one of the most successful and (until 1997) revered filmmakers of all time trying to reverse their own accomplishments and sculpt their legacy into a giant mountain of shit. Maybe he hates people liking him or anything he does? Maybe he's got some kind of horrific brain damage, only he's too powerful for anyone to force him to get checked out by a doctor? Who knows? But, to answer your two-fold question about why the unaltered original trilogy has not yet been released on Blu-Ray, or why the versions that were released on DVD were both unanamorphic and looked suspiciously like the versions Fox put out on VHS and laserdisc shortly before the Special Editions: there is likely NO ORIGINAL NEGATIVE TO EVEN GO BACK TO.</p><p> Incidentally, you guys can argue the validity of Lucas being allowed to continually alter his movies however he wants, but please allow me to present the best counter-argument ever. Ladies and gentlemen, George Lucas, speaking before Congress regarding film preservation laws, March 3rd, 1988: "My name is George Lucas. I am a writer, director, and producer of motion pictures and Chairman of the Board of Lucasfilm Ltd., a multi-faceted entertainment corporation.</p><p> I am not here today as a writer-director, or as a producer, or as the chairman of a corporation. I've come as a citizen of what I believe to be a great society that is in need of a moral anchor to help define and protect its intellectual and cultural heritage. It is not being protected. The destruction of our film heritage, which is the focus of concern today, is only the tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their lifework distorted, and their reputation ruined. If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created.</p><p> A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.</p><p> People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as "when life begins" or "when it should be appropriately terminated," but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race. These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tommorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with "fresher faces," or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved.</p><p> In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.</p><p> There is nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to a foreign entity or egotistical gangsters and having them change our cultural heritage to suit their personal taste.</p><p> I accuse the companies and groups, who say that American law is sufficient, of misleading the Congress and the People for their own economic self-interest.</p><p> I accuse the corporations, who oppose the moral rights of the artist, of being dishonest and insensitive to American cultural heritage and of being interested only in their quarterly bottom line, and not in the long-term interest of the Nation.</p><p> The public's interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests. And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work.</p><p> There are those who say American law is sufficient. That's an outrage! It's not sufficient! If it were sufficient, why would I be here? Why would John Houston have been so studiously ignored when he protested the colorization of "The Maltese Falcon?" Why are films cut up and butchered?</p><p> Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself.</p><p> I hope you have the courage to lead America in acknowledging the importance of American art to the human race, and accord the proper protection for the creators of that art--as it is accorded them in much of the rest of the world communities."</p><p> Look it up, guys. That's his actual fucking speech, verbatim, a mere nine years before Greedo shot first.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    ROTS should have new scenes added

    by NinjaChampion

    For me AOTC is the worst of the 6 and an easy pass. But here's hoping that they use this chance to add a few scenes to ROTS, like Liam Neeson's force ghost. But I know they won't change a thing with the prequels, but I guarantee that George will tinker with the OT a little more for the 3-D versions.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST

    HIS MOVIES-HIS PROPERTY!

    by Dan

    CAn I take your car from you? Since I want it, I deserve what I want...

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Nobody wants this shit.

    by PorkChopXpress

    Seriously, Lucas...nobody wants your converted 3D obvious cash grab. Stop, already. You've flogged this dead stallion enough.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Re: zodlovesmaude

    by ArmageddonProductions

    I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and assume you're some kind of troll, hoping to drum up lots of attention by saying whatever you feel will cause the most commotion. Hey, that's cool, no big deal, whatever gets you through the night. However, the speech I quoted wasn't mine ... it was George Lucas's. That was HIS view on movies and whether or not they should be preserved in their original form, as well as cautioning against advances in technology that would someday alter them to suit the whims of whoever held the copyright. If you want to argue with somebody about it, build a goddamn time machine, go back to 1988 and tell 1988 George Lucas to go fuck himself because movies belong to whoever holds the copyright. All I did was quote him.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    P.S.

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Just in case anyone doubts said speech transpired in its entirety, Lucas's statement comes from pp.482-490 of a document bearing the title "The Berne Convention: Hearings Before the Subcomittee on Patents, Copyrights and Trademarks of the Committee on the Judiciary United States Senate. One Hundreth Congress. Second session on s.1301 and s.1971. February 18 and March 3, 1988." Google it!

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST

    In the 90s it was revived, tremendously hip and cool again

    by Georgepeppard

    HAHAHAHAHA

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST

    ck36542 - in ref to my 45' tv...

    by AttackingClone

    SHUDDAP!

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    armageddonproductions

    by Dan

    i know all that... I've read it. The man can do with his own property what he wants, like it or lump it... life is too short, deal with it.

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST

    meesa unimpressed

    by Jeremy Jar Binks

    And just to make sure all the bases are covered.. Noooooooo! Han shot first! Only Han shot! Lucas raped my childhood! Gungan porn! Racist bug men! But Master! Obi-Wan is holding me back! Red leader standing by! Gay robots! Jawa porn! Fuck it all!!!!!!

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST

    150K for basic blu-ray from IP. Sell 7K copies to break even

    by Georgepeppard

    At 20 bucks each. (Fright Night '85 limited to 3000 copies, sold out.)

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST

    The OT are more than "just movies."

    by GeorgieBoy

    Shatner may say, "Get a life" and Lucas may say, "They're just movies" but I say they are childhood defining moments. To try and take that away is just... wrong.

  • myself included... it's a drug we can't quit!

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Keep Firing, Assholes!!

    by txtone04

  • Aug. 27, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Re: zodlovesmaude/Is AICN Editing Posts Now?

    by ArmageddonProductions

    I actually don't think you DID read it. According to the man himself in 1988, before a Congressional hearing to help enact the Berne Film Preservation Law, which theoretically was meant to help preserve significant films in their original iterations as a "responsibility to the public and historical culture" and protect them from the very tampering he would then go on and do, almost exactly as he warned Congress would happen to classic films once the technology caught up nine years later, "these films belong to the public". Again, I didn't say that, and I certainly didn't say that before a Congressional hearing. HE did.</p><p> See, you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not arguing about whether or not he has the right to alter his own work. In fact, all I said was "Here's a counter-argument ... by George Lucas himself." In 1988, he went to bat not only for his own work, but for the work of filmmakers like John Huston. According to you, not only should he have not cared about THE MALTESE FALCON, but it's okay that these movies get colorized or CGI space monsters get added without worrying what the writer or director have to say about it, because it's all up to the copyright holders, the guys who technically OWN THE MOVIE. Half of his argument was that the films, as they were originally released, should be preserved for the ages, because technology would eventually make it possible to allow someone to alter these films and then present them as "the original negative" to suit their whims. In other words, he was railing against rewriting history without having a responsible organization around to keep those unaltered versions safe and available for presentation. Whether this is some bizarre demonstration/protest to prove out the basis of his speech, or whether he's just that big of a con artist, we may never know, but by virtue of a) claiming that the current (and, we must assume, future) editions of the Original Trilogy are the only ones and that b) he has, to date, failed to provide the National Film Preservation Foundation -- a foundation he is a member of and, as you can see from his speech, staunch supporter of -- with a decent negative of his '77 version of STAR WARS pretty much renders everything he said before Congress in '88 superfluous. I can see that probably doesn't bother you. Oh, well.</p><p> On an unrelated note, I see a pretty good chunk of my first post, actually, part of Lucas's speech, has suddenly gone missing. Is AICN now editing posts? Maybe I should count my lucky stars that it was just edited, instead of me getting banned? Well, until it gets edited out from this post, you can actually read the whole thing, plus a few other jaw-dropping tidbits, here:</p><p> http://savestarwars.com/lucasspeechagainstspecialedition.html

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Lucas

    by ObiBen

    read a lot of Valerian and Laureline comic books in the 70s.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 7:39 a.m. CST

    I'm assuming Smell-o-vision is next...

    by StatelyWayneManor

    ...and some of you will buy it as soon as it comes out.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST

    armageddonproductions

    by Dan

    Dude, I think your post was edited? Not sure why I continue to come here with stuff like that going on.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    georgieboy - How can memories be robbed, genius?

    by Dan

    Do they reach inside your bullet head and tear out the gray matter? Don't be melodramatic and dumb.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST

    We ALL know that George's Ex-Wife and Kuntz Created Star Wars

    by Darr Furr

    Also, every human on the planet created SW save GL. The pathetic drivel that continues to come out of supposed SW fans baffles me. Fuck off already.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST

    @ zodlovesmaude : Amen

    by Darr Furr

    The funny thing is that a lot of children rank the prequel movies ahead of the holy OT. Not that I necessarily agree with them.... But these movies are pop corn flicks....

  • The ..... emotion...... is....... too much....!

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Lucas's dog created Star Wars and Indiana Jones

    by VoiceOfSaruman

    Search your feelings, you know it to be true

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Re: Lucas Creating STAR WARS

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Now, while I can't get behind anything Lucas has done post-1997 (or even RADIOLAND MURDERS or much of "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles"), he WAS the central creative force behind STAR WARS. However, his original ideas were insanely out-there, and even by the time he had a shootable script, a lot of it was gobbledygook. Kurz's contribution was mainly to shoot down the ultra-crazy shit and basically run the show so Lucas could get his movie done ('75 Lucas was essentially a joke behind the camera). Marcia Lucas was one of the greatest editors in Hollywood at the time, so it was fortuitous that she was around to help shape STAR WARS into a watchable film. Many other people also contributed: Matthew Robbins, Brian de Palma, Francis Ford Coppola, Gloria and Willard Hyuck polished the script as much as possible (they would be later rewarded with HOWARD THE DUCK), even Spielberg allegedly pitched in. But for better or for worse, it was Lucas's movie -- EMPIRE was Lucas being hands-off (and it shows) and RETURN was Lucas's first flirtation with megalomania (firing Kurz, hiring a puppet director, etc.). I don't even fault him for getting rich off of merchandising or by holding onto the rights to STAR WARS; that was Fox's fault for not having the foresight to hold onto those things themselves, and Lucas was richly rewarded for being a canny businessman.</p><p> The only thing I fault him for now is for running counter to everything he used to champion. He makes movies without the objectivity to know when he's wrong, justifying those decisions by pointing to box office receipts, and revises all of his earlier work without the ability to know whether he's making things better or worse. As zodlovesmaude keeps pointing out: they're HIS movies, so he technically has the right to do whatever he wants with them ... the only part that upsets/fascinates me is that it's so entirely opposite of what he once stated he believed in. If you ask my opinion, I think STAR WARS really did a colossal number on his head.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Bile-spewing prequel haters are fucking pathetic.

    by seymour_scagnetti

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I made the mistake of buying a ticket for TPM in 3D

    by kidicarus

    God, oh God, why?

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST

    @ armageddonproductions : GL created SW Period...

    by Darr Furr

    Please.... None of this major creative force BS that serves to diminish his accomplishments. Kurz did Dark Crystal after SW...... and that is it.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Some Would Have Us Believe that SW was created in Spite of GL....

    by Darr Furr

    George likes yes men........ George fired all the good people....... George depended on Gary this, or Martha that..... George read a lot of comics.... Harrison Ford groaned at the dialogue..... After all of that..... How is this guy a so successful?

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST

    * After all of that..... How is this guy a so successful?*

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    The merchandising! Best thing he ever did was getting the merchandising rights.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Re: darfurontherox

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Re-read what I said carefully. I stated that George Lucas was the main creative force behind STAR WARS (though, technically, he was out to make "Flash Gordon" for Universal; Coppola was the one who made him come up with his own thing once King Syndicate refused to give Lucas the rights). However, do a quick Google of "THE STAR WARS: THE JOURNAL OF THE WHILLS", a.k.a. "What STAR WARS Was Originally Called" and you'll understand why Universal refused to get involved (he was under a two-picture contract to them and "THE STAR WARS" was gonna be movie #2 after AMERICAN GRAFFITI) and allowed Lucas to look for another studio to finance it. A LOT of fucking people actually helped whip that abortion into something resembling a grown man's screenplay, including and especially Gloria and Willard Hyuck, who'd previously written AMERICAN GRAFFITI for him. Exactly what did they originally have to work with? You can read that for yourself, but let's just say, it makes THE PHANTOM MENACE look like GOODFELLAS by comparison. Some of the ideas were definitely one-hundred percent Lucas's, but, after reading what he originally planned on doing, you'll at least have to agree that we wouldn't be talking about that movie today, except as some great cinematic joke along the lines of HEARTBEEPS or THE NUDE BOMB.</p><p> As for Kurtz, I'm not sure what you read into my post, but I already acknowledged that he was the producer. However, by that, I mean, he basically stood behind Lucas and ran interference with the crew (particularly in Great Britain), who basically thought Lucas was a huge joke and would pretty much stop in the middle of production to take tea or whatever. When production finished, they came back to the States and discovered that the newly-formed ILM had spent an entire year fucking off and had produced exactly ONE SHOT. Once again, Kurtz had to take charge and get them to start working again, this time against a super-tight deadline. On EMPIRE, he fought Lucas tooth and nail for Irvin Kerschner to make the movie as good and as stylish as it could possibly be ... Lucas fired him because the movie went over budget (mainly on things like "dollies" and "decent lighting"). The thanks for helping make the best movie of the six was, he fired Kurtz and replaced him with a "yes man" on RETURN OF THE JEDI, Howard Kazanjian (who, incidentally, went on to produce DEMOLITION MAN and a few episodes of "JAG").</p><p> Why is Lucas so successful? Not because he's such an incredible filmmaker, but because he's a savvy businessman and happened to luck out when signing the paperwork on STAR WARS. He financed EMPIRE, RETURN OF THE JEDI and the prequels out of his own pocket. He also retained the merchandising rights to the STAR WARS franchise, something completely unheard of in 1975. And instead of plowing that cash into a lavish lifestyle, he put it back into his companies. For a long time, ILM was the de facto special effects company in Hollywood, and that was completely financed originally out of the budget for STAR WARS, so all he had to do was keep investing profits into it. Same goes for THX, Skywalker Sound, Lucas Digital, etc. No one's discrediting his business acumen, that's for sure.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST

    wow, I've been de-black-listed!!!!!

    by lv_426

    WTF talkbackers!!! Looks like I'm back in the asylum.

  • Aug. 28, 2012, 10:42 p.m. CST

    I'll definitely see III through VI in 3D

    by pikazerox

    Skipped Episode I, which I don't dislike all that much, just the Blu-ray had come out pretty recently and looked great. II is abysmal and a true clusterfuck of logic, it's a trial of mental anguish when I watch it. So I will absolutely skip that. III is fine and I'd love to see the OT in theaters again, changes don't bug me.

  • Aug. 29, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST

    This isn't for us

    by SgtHowie

    Us being old jaded geeks who can recite Star Wars dialogue and know the names of the FX guys. Every 7-10 years there is a whole new generation of kids who are coming to Star Wars fresh, no preconceptions and prejudices. And they love it. Even Jar-Jar. It's the approach Disney used to have, reissuing the same old movies every 7 years as if they were new, and finding a whole new audience. If the pure unaltered 77-83 movies are your thing, just stop there. Why torture yourself (and everyone else :-) ) by twisting the knife every time a new spin on Star Wars comes along? Because they are going to keep coming, that's for sure....

  • Sept. 2, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Underperformed?

    by Homerific

    The TPM rerelease earned $43M domestic, which was a bit underwhelming. The 100M proman1984 was talking about was the international take. Nothing really to brag about. TPM's 3D take is going to be crushed by the originals.