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Black Canary Black Caschmary!! Green Arrow To Bone The Huntress On New CW Series??

I am – Hercules!!

Gorgeous Australian Jessica De Gouw has just been cast as The Huntress on the new CW series “Arrow.” She’s described as a “potential love interest” for Oliver Queen.

Sadly the series is not using the current continuity’s Helena Wayne, the daughter of Earth 2’s Bruce “Batman” Wayne and Selena “Catwoman” Kyle. That Huntress was introduced in a 1977 DC Comics funnybook and served as the superpowered main character in the WB’s short-lived series “Birds of Prey.”

Instead “Arrow” is using the far less interesting 1989 reboot Huntress: Helena Bertinelli, a mobster’s daughter turned vigilante. (The Bertinelli Huntress probably does not exist in current DC continuity, since another DC reboot brought back Earth 2’s Helena Wayne Huntress last year.)

Maybe the series will next dust off Patience Phillips, the Halle Berry version of Catwoman?

If Queen and Bertinelli do commence boning, I wouldn’t expect it to last long. In the comics Queen’s longtime love is fellow superhero The Black Canary, Dinah Lance. Lance is played in “Arrow” by the comely Katie Cassidy.

“Arrow” comes to us from longtime “Dawson’s Creek” showrunner Greg Berlanti, whose prior superhero projects include the screenplay for last year’s awful “Green Lantern” movie. He also created 2010’s purely terrible ABC superhero hourlong “No Ordinary Family.” (There was talk of letting Berlanti write and direct a big screen version of “The Flash,” but happily Warner Bros. no longer appears to be pursuing that notion.)

“Arrow” arrives on the CW Oct. 10.

Find all of James Hibberd’s Entertainment Weekly exclusive on the matter here.

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  • Aug. 22, 2012, 4:22 p.m. CST

    It was awful at times and cheesy...

    by Dick Jones

    ...but I liked Birds of Prey.

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST


    by harrys_site_sucks

    That is all

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 4:46 p.m. CST

    I want to like this show

    by Matthew

    seems at least they are trying with the assorted DC characters cast, should be cool for that alone. Should be the most watchable show on the CW by far.

  • I'm watchin'

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST


    by LethargicJ

    Complaining that this show isn't using Helena Wayne could be the worst fanboy whinge I've ever seen on the internet.

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST


    by Detective_Fingerling

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 5:39 p.m. CST


    by Hercules

    Because the daughter of some generic gangster is just as cool as the spawn of Earth 2's Batman and Catwoman, am I right?

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 5:41 p.m. CST

    I'm all in for this

    by Detective_Fingerling

    Loved Smallville and am really digging the "new 52" Green Arrow. If they base this new show off of that new reboot, I can see this being pretty solid. Can't wait to see Cassidy in the Black Canary outfit, although you know they're going to neuter it.

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Or maybe

    by Kel7alpha

    We get the cool vigilante Huntress from JLU. (also would love for the Question to show up)

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Who's John Barrowman playing?

    by paulrichard

    He's supposed to have a recurring role.

  • I'm not feeling this new Arrow especially coming off the heavily Green Arrow focused Smallville not too long ago.

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 7:36 p.m. CST

    dsmn. Damn.

    by adeceasedfan

  • Aug. 22, 2012, 8:03 p.m. CST

    They didn't bring back Justin Hartley, so I don't care

    by Drath

    He can be fucking Robin's dog for all I care.

  • i didn't really care for Smallville but Hartley was almost always a bright spot in a - let's be honest here - pretty terrible show. I hope the new show is good - but judging by what I've seen and read so far - it's not looking that way.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Earth 2 version.

    by BlueLando

    Yes Herc, because it couldn't possibly be set-up for a future story where she discovers Batman and Catwoman are her parents, but Catwoman put her into adoption to keep her from 'that' life. Probably not, but it's pointless having the reveal in show that those are her parents when neither Bats or Cats is part of the show.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 1:48 a.m. CST

    As for Hartley

    by BlueLando

    He was great... but starting a show with Oliver married, having been fighting crime for seven years, and killed Lex Luthor? That would have no chance of working as a new series.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 7:21 a.m. CST

    As long as its not Chloe, I am fine.

    by shutupfanboy

    If you didn't see the JLU episode with Huntress/Question vs. Arrow/Canary then you will know that this is a better move. How the hell are you going to explain Batman and Catwoman having a 20 something year old daughter let along get the rights to that. Smallville was on 10 years and they only mentioned Bruce once.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST


    by MrD

    This is a show by WB for the WB co-owned network. Getting the rights to Batman and Catwoman would be easy. But it wouldn't make it right. Green Arrow is Batman's peer. He's not a Teen Titan.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Rights to Batman and Catwoman would be easy

    by BlueLando

    Um, no. Smallville couldn't get them in ten years. Batman wasn't available before or during Nolan's Batman films, and it's likely he won't be available now. Heck, him not being available is WHY we have a Green Arrow TV show. They wanted Batman for Smallville, but got Green Arrow instead. So they wrote Green Arrow like he was Batman, and he became popular enough to justify a new TV show.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    It just hit me that this is the worst possible way for Warner to be making money off these characters. The CW? For teenage girls? Did *anyone* watch Smallville? I mean, beyond the usual weirdos that watched Roswell and Andromeda? You could write a thesis comparing DC and Marvel entertainment properties of the past ten years.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST

    @lethargicj i agree

    by qwsdqwedq sdbcjhdwiuvdh

    i dont think only the hardcore comic readers will b watchin. i also hope they dont use Huntress's goofy costume, and go with something more practical. i always felt that they dressed her up as a female insecure about her sexuality, and felt compelled to reveal as much as possible to re-assure herself (i know its true of most superheroines

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Hell, for that matter...

    by zer0cool2k2

    They wanted to do a "Young Bruce Wayne Chronicles", but had to settle for Smallville (which probably turned out better for all in the long run). I get they wanted to do a show from the beginning of GA's career, but they could have done that with Hartley. The best thing about Birds of Prey was the flashback scene showing Batman battling the Joker, and dina Meyer in the Batgirl suit

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    bluelando, I was thinking the same thing. Rights Issue

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    It's a TV show. They're generally going to go with the cheapest option. 99% of the public doesn't hear Huntress and think "Batman's daughter!" anyway.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Helena Bertinelli was retconned into an alias...

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    IIRC, she had been a real person but sometime after her death Helena Wayne from Earth 2 had assumed her identity. And Green Arrow #89, from the mid90s Crossroads arc, is a subversive riff on Hard-Travelling Heroes.

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST


    by Norman Colson

    shes so damn hot in that uniform. im hoping other b list superheroes make cameos

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    *shakes fist*

  • Aug. 23, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Did you really expect Batman's daughter?

    by BizarroJerry

    And c'mon, I know you're (we're) old schoolers and all, but the "new" Huntress has been around for almost 25 years!

  • Aug. 24, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST

    No point in overcomplicating a brand-new series...

    by DarkHawke

    Bringing Bats and Catwoman in to the Green Arrow series is too much of an intrusion of what are extraneous characters to this show. GA doesn't get enough respect as it is. Why bring the Bat in, even in so tangential a manner? Suddenly Arrow's second-stringing in his own show, 'cause everyone wants to know the skinny about Huntress and her far more famous parents. 'Sides, we already did this in Birds of Prey and despite the smoking hot title characters, it crashed and burned most spectacularly. I'm not sold on the looks of this actress. Hollywood's Hollywood and all that, but she looks like Michelle Tractenburg's little sister. I'd rather it not look like GA's robbing the cradle. We don't need Green Pedo! More important than this development is that Berlanti is running this shindig. Not the kiss of death that is Brannon Braga, but Berlanti's last two efforts have been half-baked at best. If there's something we can take from the blinding success of Marvel Comics movies, it's that the more authentic, the better. You can make *some

  • Aug. 24, 2012, 2:30 a.m. CST


    by DarkHawke

    You can make *some* logical concessions on the look and/or origins of the character for the sake of live-action believability, but in the end, Iron Man looked like Iron Man, Cap was Cap, etc. Green Arrow had BEST look like Green FUCKING Arrow or there'll be hell to pay. I'm okay with ditching the Errol Flynn Robin Hood look, and I guess him not being a blonde with a goatee can pass, but that should be as far as it goes. I'm not saying boxing glove arrows or bust, but the further we go afield from the version that gave them a reason to make this series, the less motivation there will be for the core fanbase to watch, which is who they need to get this show on its feet.

  • Aug. 24, 2012, 5:35 a.m. CST

    Barrowman will probably be playing Capt. Jack

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    under a different name.

  • Aug. 24, 2012, 6:52 a.m. CST

    I bet it's because they don't want to use characters with powers

    by steverogers5

    I keep hearing statements about how they don't want it to seem like a super-hero show..(Sigh!) So I bet the real reason they're not using Black Canary is because they don't want to shatter their supposed air of believability, by having a character with super powered sonic screams. Huntress, as much as I love her, has no powers, and thus is an easy substitute. This is probably a legacy of the nolan bat films..(which I do love, even if the last two were slightly overated) But it's the wrong lesson to take from said films.. Believability doesn't have anything to do with whether you have super-powered characters in your show, it's how you write said characters and the world they live in. Why do so many tv and film producers not get that?

  • Aug. 24, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    It's a shame....

    by tjrmusic

    That they won't call a show about Green Arrow, "Green Arrow".

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4 p.m. CST


    by BloodiedFox

    Ah, so he'll have fucked every other major character by the mid-season break then.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Nevermind. I already posted two months ago.

    by adeceasedfan

    WTF Herc?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    I have been liking the show so far.

    by Andrew

    Although, if Smallville couldn't get the rights to have Bruce Wayne show up, this show probably isn't getting them for this character. I suspect they'll make their version work fine. I was on the fence about the show too, but it has been surprisingly better than expected. And Herc, you might want to try just delivering the news, without putting such a negative slant on it. It sounds like you're crapping on the whole show, rather than just expressing disappointment about this move. Being objective is good journalism. Just saying.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST

    it is what it is.

    by rakesh patel

    look this show isn't lost, 24, buffy etc etc etc. its perfect for smallville fans. i.e folks who can watch this in the background, occasionally pay attention and then get back to what they're doing and watch this in their peripheral vision. I could bag on how fucking terrible it is, but it doesn't pretend to have illusions about being the next walking dead. it's nice to have a regular comic book show on. thats it. if it improves ( hey falling skies did it!) then i'll hold it to another standard. As for Green Lantern a fucking wasted opportunity. A potential star wars like franchise we could have enjoyed, instead we get fucked in the ass. even if we get 10 years of green arrow, i'll never forgive or forget green lantern i could have shown i saw deathstroke in the previews.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST

    I'm really enjoying Arrow, so far.

    by Imagikafan

    I couldn't care less which version of Huntress they use in the show. Oh, and those of you crying about Hartley...get over it. His version of the character was a wimp. Go watch the terrible Emily Owens M.D. if you want to see him that bad.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Just noticed Herc's response from August, haha

    by LethargicJ

    Because the daughter of some generic gangster is just as cool as the spawn of Earth 2's Batman and Catwoman, am I right?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Barrowman was on this week...

    by Ninja Nerd

    This plays on Hulu Plus next day after air, so that's how I watch it. JB shows up near the end of this weeks episode; big reveal...yada, yada. I actually dig this show. This is more 'Death Wish meets Batman' than I was expecting and I applaud it for even trying. No, it's not great but it doesn't suck. The flashback bits may get old but Dream On and Lost got away with it as a primary pillar, so who knows? Kind of cool to see Harry Dresden (Paul Blackthorne) doing something; love the books...just wish SyFy hadn't hosed it up so bad.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 4:46 p.m. CST

    I watch Arrow. But I don't enjoy it. It's just a soap opera.

    by happybunni

    Even though they have an arching story... It's seeming a bit too soap-operay for me. The daughter/sister doing drugs and partying. The ex-lover who has been doing his best friend, but is still in love with him. Also she's currently doing his best friend it seems, and she's just going to switch back to him? After he cheated on her and killed her sister? I didn't enjoy Ringer for the same reasons, the dialogue and various scenarios and key story points that come up were very much a soap opera. I didn't feel that way about BSG, which many called a soap opera in space.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST

    drath ......slayme

    by DrMorbius

    Don't know if Justin Hartley was available. HE IS currently on EMILY OWENS M.D.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST

    herc, come on....

    by johnny h. utah

    The Helena Bertinelli version of The Huntress was a great character who was interesting because of her flaws and those flaws can be used to juxtapose her idea of justice opposite Oliver Queen's on the show. Helena Wayne is just Batman and Catwoman's daughter. Nothing else to add depthwise there.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST

    why not bring Hartley back?

    by oisin5199

    Because Queen in the Arrow pilot was far more interesting and played with more depth than Hartley did on several seasons of Smallville. Granted, introducing the Green Arrow character pulled Smallville out of a major rut and introduced the Justice League element to the show and giving Clark a much needed confidante and best friend (though we all know he was a stand-in for Bruce Wayne). But Arrow is a much different show. Amell's portrayal is waaay more nuanced than anything Hartley could have come up with.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:47 p.m. CST

    plus, could Hartley do the ladder rung exercise?

    by oisin5199

    I doubt it. Amell probably also actually knows how to use a bow and arrow.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Well said, oisen5199.

    by Imagikafan

    I completely agree.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST

    I like Arrow

    by Matthew

    something to watch that I will continue to watch. It could be better but I still enjoy the show. I would like to see him wear a fake goatee as the green arrow to disguise his face better and look like the comic more. The arrow is like batman, except he has killed which is interesting but Arrow needs more cool gadgets like Batman, maybe a car?

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Sorry about misspelling your name, oisin5199.

    by Imagikafan

    An edit button would be helpful.

  • Always this hating, moaning and bitching.... not every series is a Game of thrones. And about this DC continuity... who cares? There are some many comic reboots at the moment... I really lost track....

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST

    I have no idea what you are talking about

    by ATARI

  • If he is indeed to be the main antagonist, I am ABSOLUTELY fine with that! But both the casting and the portrayal of the character are CRUCIAL to getting the fans on board for the long haul, and the must not blow the opportunity for something truly awesome like they did with the baffling Deadshot actor. Floyd Lawton is one of the funniest and coolest characters in the old DC Universe, as anyone who read Gail Simone's masterpiece the Secret Six can attest to, and his signature move was casually shooting someone point blank in the face with his wrist guns! The could have at least given him his cool suit instead of the terrible giant red monocle! But Deathstroke is one of the ultimate badasses of the DC Universe, and is pretty much considered the premiere fighter that can go toe-to-toe with literally any other hero, including Batman and Superman. THEY MUST NOT FUCK HIM UP!!! But they seem intent on including and expanding the DC Universe aspect of the show MUCH earlier than Smallville, which is a promising thing that has yielded mixed results this far (Deadshot, a barely used White China), and the "mobster of the week" storyline will get real old real fast over the long haul, so it would be wise to break that up as often as possible (next weeks ep certainly looks like a good step in that direction). While it is all but certain that Ollie will take on a few sidekicks (his sister being one, apparently) but I think they will get a CW young'un to play Roy Harper at some point, hopefully sooner than later. But it would BEHOOVE them to add other heroes like Ted Kord, who could help him develop new trick arrows like net arrows and boxing gloves!

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST

    The hair & mask scream...

    by Sean1701

    Anne Hathaway's Selena Kyle. If it were the daughter o Wayne and Kyle, that would be a cool link to Nolan's bat-universe.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:33 p.m. CST

    This show is actually really good.

    by Steve Rogers

    Solid action and plotting so far. Also the lead is a million times better than the dude from Smallville. The whole show is a million times better than Smallville. This show is actually too good for the CW, should be getting more attention on a better network.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Herc you are being awfully condescending.

    by eric haislar

    Arrow is a great show and keeps getting better every episode.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    Why are you reusing a old talkback? I thought you just wrote all this today.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST

    The mask and hair scream...

    by Sean1701

    Anne Hathaway's Selena Kyle

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 7 p.m. CST

    Hasn't this been canceled already?

    by tylerzero

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 8:17 p.m. CST

    I personally don't care which Huntress they use

    by Rob0729

    It isn't about her parentage. It is how they make her character. The premise of the show makes more sense that she would be a gangster's daughter rather than Bruce Wayne's. The show is following theGreen Arrow: Year One Storyline (loosely) and gives him his motive that he is out to right the wrongs of the Star City elite who prey on the innocent. It would make more sense to make the Huntress the daughter of one of those villans than Batman and Catwoman. And by the unlikely chance that they actually bring Bruce Wayne or Selina Kyle on the show for an appearance, do you want a couple of 40 or 50 something Batman and Catwoman or 30 something ones? Giving them a 20 something daughter in season one pretty much writes the writers into a box if they do secure the rights to show either character.

  • The original, not Renee Montoya.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST

    She's got the legs for the job, I'll say that.

    by tom

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Good show, hope it sticks around a while!

    by Charlie

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Bertinelli's better

    by MattDomville

    Rather that than another child Wayne's name is slapped on, despite Bruce failing to raise 'em.

  • Seriously, kill the middle class hired thugs, let the rich assholes live another day? That's not Ollie Queen! On another note, anyone suggesting we introduce a 50-year-old Batman to the Arrow continuity needs to be cockslapped. Please, please, please let that joke stopped being funny post-Birds of Prey. Nolan's Batman was the least interesting part of Batman once you get past Batman Begins. Admit it, he was only in the movie taking up space while everyone else was busy being awesome. Hell, even Bruce Wayne was ten times more interesting out of costume than in it. I wanted him to stay crippled I was so tired of Nolan's attempts at a vigilante not named Selena Kyle. Also, while we're on the subject of Batman being shitty and Arrow not being shitty, anyone notice how much Arrow's costume voice doesn't sound like throat cancer with a dash of gargled razor blades and splooge? Imagine that...I don't laugh when Green Arrow talks.

  • Nov. 2, 2012, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Loved Smallville, but Clark Kent/Superman is a

    by DavidBanner

    much more interesting character than most superheroes. There are a lot of story possibilities. And Ollie was well written and performed by Hartley. I am enjoying Arrow, but it's still stumbling over some stilted dialogue and corniness. Smallville had a much better handle on the characters and the cast was solid. That said I'm sticking with Arrow and looking forward to Deathstroke and Huntress.

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST

    For a Batman and Lost ripoff, Green Arrow...

    by tailhook

    actually isn't that bad. It isn't exactly high-genre art yet, but it certainly hasn't shit the bed. And the fanbois with cum-stained comics and a laundry list of retardo-notes about how everything 'must be' can go fuck themselves. I could care less about comic book canon so long as they keep to a compelling storyline. Whatever makes for a good story is fine with me. They do need to find a way to break from the token-rich-fucker-of-the-week whose name is in my book getting-his schtick. The Deadshot episode was a decent start.

  • It's called the Batembargo. They don't want a live action batman on tv diluting movie Batman. They don't seem to mind using Batman characters though, I kinda like to see how far that goes. While I doubt they'd use the joker would they be open to harley quinn? Might we even get Nightwing or oracle?

  • And that is EXACTLY why fanboys should never write tv shows or movies! Let's make things REALLY accessible to newcomers, eh?

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 5:54 a.m. CST

    I tried...I bailed

    by DrFever

    Sorry Arrow

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 6:39 a.m. CST


    by batjac

    Wonder how many of the fanboy whiners have ever seen a minute of this show? ANYWAY- one of the very first shots in the plot episode as the camera pans to the beach for the first time. Look! It's the Deathstroke mask on a stick. There's a Jeff Dunham joke in that somewhere... and to recap--Oliver is currently in quite a pickle after having his grab the costume from a trashcan bit caught on film. Maybe he needs a costume of nanobytes--nah, no one would come up with something that stupid.

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 6:41 a.m. CST


    by batjac

    pilot episode... oh and did anyone catch the reference to Bludhaven and Keystone last week?

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 7:29 a.m. CST

    How many dicks can you fit in your mouth, Herc

    by Anal Inflictor

    Why don't you go find out and leave this show alone. Arrow has been surprisingly good among a wasteland of crapola. It's light years ahead of Smallville and we are actually seeing some cool characters, albeit in the Marvel way of formatting them for the screen. But so what. DC might finally be learning its lesson. And oh yeah, go suck some dicks, Herc.

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Lets see.....

    by jarhead_h

    Green Arrow was a standin for Batman on Smallville, and he still is in this. Arrowis a mix of LOST, Batman Begins, and Smallville. Very surprisingingly, it's working. Not sure why Mia had to be changed to "Thea" or why Dinah goes by Laurel but whatever. Speedy works as GA's little sis and looking forward to seeing what they do with Deathstroke, which means we can probably add Teen Titans to the list above. The no super-powers thing is probably more to distance it from Smallville and keep the CGI budget down.

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST

    I have to say

    by PlayerHater_of_the_year

    This show is actually pretty good and exceeding my expectations. I think they screwed up though having him actually kill people right from the start. That means Green Arrow will always be wanted for murder for as long as the show runs and you know he's guilty of, at the very least, justifiable manslaughter. That makes him more Punisher than Batman. So is Deadshot dead after only one appearance?

  • Like in one episode he killed like 5 guards then turned over their boss to the cops. Like WTF, the low end employees get slaughtered and he leaves the big bad to the justice system.

  • Okay, uh, if we just change a little bit here and there, flatten the ears a bit, ah-hah! Huntress. Saved ourselves about 50 bucks right there!

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST

    I just noticed the Aug talkbacks.

    by Andrew

    Was that a screw up on Herc's part? Or just laziness? The article shows it being posted on Nov. 2nd, so who knows. I've also noticed articles in the Top Stories column sometimes get re-posted with current dates on them, as though they are new. Strange.

  • It was simpley that DC/Warner Brothers just didnt want the character showing up on Smallville or any other TV show. They could had used him if they wanted to. There's been articles on it. They can have him pop up anywhere they wanted. Me personally do not want to see Bats show up on Arrow or at least anytime soon. Let Arrow have his time to shine.

  • Nov. 3, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST


    by migmog

    Yeah but putting Batman in as a cameo may just give this series longevity so it can 'tell it's story'

  • Nov. 4, 2012, 12:37 a.m. CST

    This is all superhero 90210 shit.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Smallville, Arrow, Birds of Prey and the rest of the superhero shit they've put on TV is just awful. So many of you lower your standards and don't ask for quality when it comes to comics on TV. So many fanboys are willing to settle for crap rather than nothing at all. There have been a lot of comic book movies that I've really liked, but when it comes to TV, it is always shit. There isn't a single comic book TV series I own on DVD, but I have a dozen or so movies. Why is that? Why can they never do it right as a series? I just don't get it. Stupid fucks.

  • Nov. 4, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Huntress is minor prob compared to Oliver arrested,

    by kabong

    secret identity quickly dissolving. <p> As for the island, that's moving too slowly to explain how in five years Oliver became some sort of ninja in the Russian crime army.

  • Nov. 4, 2012, 2:36 p.m. CST

    thelostbat - not renewed

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    Picked up for a full season order. It could still face cancellation, much in line with how No Ordinary Family did a nosedive right into the cancellation can.

  • Nov. 4, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    re: Batman/Bruce Wayne on Smallville

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    There were plans to work Bruce into an episode but DC creatives DID veto it due to the fact that Nolan's films were picking up steam and otherwise interfere with plans they'd had for the character outside of animation. The whole episode idea that was set to introduce him into that universe can be dredged up with a little effort and Google. In place of Bruce, they slapped a crappy knock-off running around Metropolis who just happened to be female (and non-bat themed, though it's obvious what they drew inspiration off of). One of the more boring episodes of that particular season (the 5th season, if I recall accurately).

  • Most movies, despite having 150, 200 or 300 million dollars, and a lot more time to work with for pre-production, filming and post, struggle to do justice to the comics' scope.

  • Nov. 4, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST

    hank henshaw, I know this is part of the problem.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    And thank you for mentioning that. But still, the stories, the acting, they also aren't on par with the films. The TV producers seem to think that it they don't have the budget, they can't do anything but light, often stupid, pablum. You don't have to have a bigger budget to ramp up the drama and tone, and take away the stupid frivolity.

  • Nov. 4, 2012, 9:23 p.m. CST

    The most interesting part of Birds of Prey, for instance...

    by Queefer Sutherland

    ...was the Joker, Batgirl, Batman story, and that was told in several brief flashbacks. I suppose they couldn't use Batman and Joker because of the movies, but why show us that at all then? It was a terrible tease, showing us what COULD be, then wrapping it in a half-hearted production. If the girls weren't so gorgeous I'd have never finished the whole series.

  • Nov. 5, 2012, 6:39 a.m. CST

    The Shows for little girls

    by DamianVonBarone

    Its like the Lifetime channel made a superhero show