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Yay! THE ROCKETEER May Return!
Nordling here.
I hope this is true, because I love love love THE ROCKETEER. I think it's a fantastic movie, and although the original didn't do well at the box office, I think the spirit of all those great serial matinees resides within. Director Joe Johnston may have made CAPTAIN AMERICA, but the movie has THE ROCKETEER in its DNA.
THE ROCKETEER was created by Dave Stevens, who sadly died in 2008 to leukemia. And now Disney may be bringing this character back, if Vulture is correct - the studio will supposedly be meeting with writers very soon. If true, I hope they get writers with a keen sense of the spirit of the original. Although you can tell that there are moments in THE ROCKETEER where they simply didn't have the money to achieve the true vision of the project - I always had an idea that there was an action sequence missing somewhere - there's a real vitality and spunk to the movie that's hard to deny. It's one of my favorite movies of the 1990s and having seen it with an audience recently, it still kills.
If Disney brings back THE ROCKETEER, it's possible with all the Marvel movies in the works that it could get squeezed out. I hope that's not the case. Hell, bring THE ROCKETEER into the Marvel fold! Hell, throw in Howard Stark if they want. That would work for me.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST
The Rocketeer may return, but sadly Jennifer Connolly's tits will not...
by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy
To get a breast reduction when you've been blessed with such a magnificent rack is a crime against nature.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST
CAPTAIN AMERICA ----------ROCKETEER team up please!
by the Green Gargantua
IT COULD HAPPEN
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Aug. 21, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST
The Rocketeer may have it's fans, but those are fans of extremely boring "adventure" films.
by JethroBodine
Read the subject line.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST
I hope they use Bettie Page -- Not the Disneyfied "Jenny Blake"
by robotdevil
I loved the original, but it was watered down from the comic by Disney.
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Wasn't Inception a big hit? Come on people!!!!
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Aug. 21, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST
They could come back if I we put her on a fried chicken diet.
by the Green Gargantua
two weeks
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I don't see how it can be equalled or bettered, it had an atmosphere and a "lightning in a bottle" kind of thing that I can't see happening again, but that said, I'll be cautiously optimistic and watch future development of this project with interest. Now...if you tell me Joe Johnston is going to be involved again....then I'm really gonna get my hopes up.....
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Much like Hollywood, I don't have an original thought either.
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. . . bring as many of the cast back as possible and set it in 1961 or so. Campbell & Connelly have this impetuous, gutys, outsider kid who marches to a different beat. His folks get in big trouble and said kid digs the gear out of the attic or something and hops to it . . . Pierce Brosnan plays the bad guy . . .
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I respect the original to a point, but it does have a ton of flaws; weak leading man, hammy acting (Dalton), bad FX here and there. If they get a RDJ/Stark-type vibe into the remake it could absolutely surpass the original.
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but, I've always loved this movie. It was my introduction to the Rocketeer and to Dave Stevens. It had that earnest energy and derring-do-ness that you don't find in a lot of cinema nowadays. If they do decide to go ahead and make a new one, then by golly they'd better pump that movie full of nostalgia, optimism, patriotism and earnestness. BLAST OFF!!!
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Yes, we are fans of movies that aren't aimed at ADD addled twats.
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Wonder if Rehab can treat him
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Don't you read this site? Harry did an interview with Joe Johnston where he talked about the missing fight scene that went over Hollywood Blvd. between the club scene and the zeppelin scene.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
wanted to like this flick but this flick didn't click with this chick
by Simpsonian
ok, i'm not a chick but I couldn't resist the rhyme
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Aug. 21, 2012, 8:26 p.m. CST
ONLY if they Bring Back John Willi...I mean James Horner's Score!
by hoorayforeric
It was a great score!
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not a remake. No need for the original actors.. that wouldn't make sense at this point. Please just don't make them teen actors. Please.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST
In a Unrealated note..the original opening sequence to the avengers was awesome.
by TheAwareness
so sad that that was cut..brought real gravity to Steve rogers i blame downey.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST
Iron Man is basically a High Tech Rocketeer. May not work, now.
by hoorayforeric
With Iron Man rocketing around at super sonic speeds shooting blasts from his hands...I'm not sure The Rocketeer will be able to compete with audiences, these days. I loved The Rocketeer, though. It was a nice, clean 1940's comic film set vs. Nazis!! What's not to love! Just not sure if it'll capture audiences, these days. So many massive super heroes have soared on screen, since 1991. Seeing a man with a rocket pack may not be enough.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST
I love The Rocketeer so I hope they don't try to make it an Iron Man/Captain America hybrid
by ltgalloway
To me Rocketeer is romantic, and Iron Man is irreverent. Captain America is a soldier, Rocketeer is a flyboy. I could see the studio blurring the line here, seeing only the helmet and jetpack or the period setting and think they are interchangeable characters. It's going to be a very tricky line but I hope they can pull it off. For me Rocketeer had that Disney magic quality that seems increasingly more difficult to find these days. Maybe they aren't even trying. Maybe I'm just stuck in the past, putting this film on a pedestal. This film is a favorite for those who grew up with it. For me it's going to be hard to live up to, but I'll withhold judgement before seeing the final product and I hope they make it work!
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Greeeaaat film, great concept, great little adventure that deserved a sequel. One of the most underrated movies ever made. Still better than that mediocre captain america movie. What? I have standards.
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Fans should absolutely check out The Rocketeer Adventures, which are comics from a bunch of great writers and artists celebrating the character. There's a terrific sale going right now on ComiXology. The old Dave Stevens comics are on there too. (I'm not a salesperson for ComiXology or anything, I just really think everyone should be reading these). http://www.comixology.com/Rocketeer-Adventures-Sale/comics-collection/577
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I saw this movie in the theater when I was a kid and this was a great moment. The Mobsters shooting back at the Nazis and looking over to see the Feds shooting right along with them. I remember it got big laughs in the theater. Great scene!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V7CD13Nxro
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Aug. 21, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST
Another Alan Arkin superhero movie that is just...interesting....is.....
by DementedCaver
The Return of Captain Invincible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8W2fkhfFPc
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What Pixar could do with it. http://vimeo.com/25088498#at=0
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Aug. 21, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST
The Rocketeer embodies ingenuity and high adventure of times past
by wcolbert
Definitely Johnston's finest endeavor to date. I didn't find Jumanji all that entertaining, was entirely disgusted by Jurassic Park 3 (did he phone that in from the toilet?) and Captain America was ok...just not inspiring in the capacity that The Rocketeer was. I actually narrowly missed meeting Johnston back in '04 when I was on a dig - he was out there with Jack Horner, who was behind our dig as well. I did get to hunt dinos with Homer Hickam, though - the man who wrote Rocket Boys (based on his life, and the book October Sky was based on) - which obviously Johnston also directed. So I got to ask him a bit about the man. This was, mind you, a time when I wasnt too fond of him after JPIII...so I mostly wanted to know if he was going to return to kick the corpse. :P When I was little, that movie inspired me to invent, to explore, to research rocketry and dream of building my own jet pack. It's films like that which I think are true examples of what the medium is all about. Inspiration.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST
I hope that rumor of Cap picking up thors hammer and handing it 2 thor at the end of the forrest fight(deleted scene) is real as well.
by TheAwareness
the look on Thors face would be priceless. Common Fiegie..why push Cap to the background?..he's such a great character.Like batman and superman combined..and worthy of just as much prestige and success.Cap certainly would be riding a little higher in the minds of the movie-going public after his first sincere, big screen effort if it wasn't treated like a after thought (needed to be released during Christmas,,more production time always helps),understand, i love cap:first avenger for what it,but the film needed a "Real" director at the helm and not just a gun for hire that you can push around and play fetch with like joe johnson..i wonder why nick casavetties was passed up?
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I did have the framed poster, for years, though. Nice Deco art. Damn, whom to I give that to?
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Aug. 21, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST
Problem with Captain America...many other countries don't much like us
by wcolbert
So I'm wondering how popular a character he is overseas with a name like that. Can you imagine a captain Russia during the cold war? Wouldnt go over too well here. And that's about how much we're hated today. good thing I dont plan on living here forever. Especially if Romney wins. Then I'm out.
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With my 9 year old son the other night. I'd forgotten how much I loved it. Looks great on blu ray. Another Rocketeer movie would be sweet.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 9:14 p.m. CST
This movie was mentioned on an episode of Married with Children once
by Kyle DeMattio
It was on the episode where Kelly gets her own public access show. Matt LeBlanc comes onto the show, makes a joke about some dude looking like the Rocketeer, and then says that the film was dead at the box office. That film got made fun of a lot back in the day. I don't think its necessary to relive that.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 9:18 p.m. CST
I may not make an honest buck, but I'm a hundred-percent American!
by Odkin
Take that, ya Nazi rat! A classic line performed perfectly by Paul Sorvino.
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I know you are but what am I? :-P
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This is one of my all-time favorite films - VERY underappreciated. Disney stupidly expected it to be another Batman, and was turned off by its box office. Hardly anyone had even heard of the character! The Cap film had some of the same elements: nostalgia, a touching sweetness at times, a rah-rah Up With America spirit, and rousing music. Great jobs by Johnston. A reboot/sequel is long overdue. Go for it!
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The Rocketeer is a favorite from my teens (I think it opened on my 17th birthday), but the idea of a sequel or remake kind of fills me with dread. A sequel with the original cast, and you'll have a frail, anorexic shadow of Jennifer Connelly's 1991-era hotness, and a remake would probably be tagged as an Iron Man clone and ignored by audiences. When Joe Johnston made Captain America, I kept hoping for a Rocketter reference, like soldiers mentioning sightings of a "flying man" or Connelly painted onto the side of a B-17 bomber or something. I just don't see a modern-day version of the story capturing the gee-whiz corniness that made the original so endearing. Plus, Timothy Dalton was great (I'm *still* pissed he never got to do a few more 007 films in the early 90's...he would be remember more fondly today n the role if he did more than two), James Horner's score is superb (compare to Ramen Noodles' score to Iron Man...what drek) and a pre-lost Terry O'Quinn as Howard Hughes ("That son of a bitch *will* fly"...a line they always edited when they showed the movie on the Disney Channel). Shame the recent Blu-Ray had no extras and will likely NEVER come down in price like all of Disney's Blus.
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It's like RIGHT STUFF and THE NATURAL fused together in a terrible telepod accident, with only the folksiness coming through afterward. Typical Horner, steal from the best, then steal from yourself to seam over the rest. Even my wife can't understand why EVERYBODY let him get away with wholesale REPEAT theft of other filmmusic ... there' s a piece during the jog-round-the-centrifuge in 2001 that he pinched -- even the arrangement is the same, near as I can tell -- for ALIENS, CLEAR & PRESENT, and I think PATRIOT GAMES.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST
The cartoon in the movie promises a nazi air battle that never happens. The
by UltraTron
Rocketeer never fights king kong like the comics or battles a flying army. Should have a team up with sky captain and steamboy. Call it Rocket Steam Captain and the Earth of Yesterday. Black and white with an animated steam boat willy type sidekick. Then this happens: http://www.google.com/search?q=funny+olympic+pics&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#biv=i|0;d|0QZqvQGb9rpNmM:
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It's funny you mention that. I have the distinct memory (when I was about 7) of wanting to see Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead, which was out at the same time. I'm so glad my Mom talked me into seeing The Rocketeer.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST
The Rocketeer is GREAT, just like Condorman, Dick Tracy, Howard the Duck, and etc.,...
by JethroBodine
Good stuff!
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It was repeated on cable so many times when I was a kid, I think that I memorized all of the lines.
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With Disney / Marvel running the show, I can see the Rocketeer being incorporated into the Marvel Universe. Cap with Rocketeer as part of the Invaders on the big screen. Make it happen. Excelsior!
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pixar would be a great idea. in fact, i think that may be the only way to make the rocketeer interesting again. in 3-D? oh hell yes.
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I like the Rocketeer. I do think the movie was a good idea that wasn't fully realized. I don't think the script was strong enough. I think another Rocketeer movie would be cool, but it's obvious they'll do a remake and I don't want to see the origin of the Rocketeer again. Just to throw it out there. Christopher Gorham as The Rocketeer, Emily Blunt as Jenny, and Benadict Cumberbatch as Neville.
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Does Disney flat-out own the rights now and forever to THE ROCKETEER? Or does Dave Stevens estate still get a cut? And will Disney be classy and donate a share of the profits to fight leukemia? Basically if Marvel flat-out owns THE ROCKETEER,theres nothing to stop them from folding him over into the Marvel universe. I hope whomever is attached to this realizes what big shoes they have to fill...or better yet,I hope Disney buries the hatchet and hires back Joe Johnston and lets him make the movie he wanted to make all those years ago. BTW,IDW Comics is producing some AMAZING Rocketeer comics....they are quite awesome,and feature a TON of talented writers and artists all paying tribute to the character. I urge any Rocketeer fans to pick them up....they're only like .99 cents through IDW's digital store....GIVE THEM A CHANCE!!!!
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Sorry, just watched "The Thing." Fucking great movie!!!
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Dave Stevens drew pinup women. Vargas would have envied his renderings of the female figure. They had the perfect actress, and they held her back. Don't make that mistake a second time!
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Aug. 21, 2012, 9:56 p.m. CST
I saw it on theaters. I don't remember a single frame from this movie.
by Ricardo
It's the movie I have forgotten the most. Maybe I hit my head after seeing it.
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Are you fucking nuts?
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Hype for stupid remakes/reboots is why the studios "reward" us with so many of them, mostly of the shitty variety. So when you guys start complaining about the shitty Jack Ryan prequel or Crow remake, and the literally hundreds of unadapted comic properties, novels, series, and screenplays, you can thank articles like this one.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
So, ROCKETEER is a "fantastic" movie, but you'll all for a remake???
by Linguo_IS_Dead
Isn't that the opposite of what makes sense?
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Hilarious! There are several films I wish I could forget.
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Oh, right, for the benjamins.<br> <br> <br>
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Captain America wasn't on a par with Rocketeer, but it showed Joe's still got the chops for it!
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Aug. 21, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST
I think a re-boot, as they typically tend to, will suck ungodly balls...however
by wcolbert
The Rocketeer is one of those somewhat obscure films, as 90's films go, that hasn't really had much staying power in the minds of the general public. It was a good movie - it's just largely forgotten now - it has been 20 years, after all, and there hasn't been a peep about a continuation or a remake in quite a long time. So it kind of faded away. In that sense, I think an update to the film might just reawaken that film for many people - particularly in this age of high gas prices and attenuating freedoms, when people might actually love the idea of that kind of absolute freedom. There's always been a human fascination with flight, from the time the earliest people looked at the birds in the sky and felt envy settle into their stomach like a stone. Many thousands of generations later, we have machines that can take us to the sky and even allow us to leave the Earth altogether...but there's never been any comparison to the desire to be utterly free of gravity's shackles, to take to the sky on a whim, and never look back. That's what the appeal of the personal jetpack is. Back in the 60's, we envisioned a future, not to long off, in which we would all have flying cars or jet packs or anti-gravity belts. A few prototypes were even developed back then, but abandoned by the military due to the noise they created. It's a feasible technology - just not particularly practical for the everyday man, unfortunately. Still. A man must dream or he's already good as dead.
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Weirdly enough, both had Timothy Dalton, who raises the bar considerably making the weak lead look even worse
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Aug. 21, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST
Crimson Dynamo you talk filth. You lie. Your words are LIES you filthy fuc***
by Hint_of_Smegma
Bland leading men my foot. Sam Jones and Billy Campbell were both superb in their roles, anyone saying different either hasn't seen the films they're talking about and just parroting idiotic criticisms they've seen written elsewhere, or are just fucking tasteless idiots. There isn't a bad word to be said about either Flash Gordon or Rocketeer - anyone disagreeing is wrong on every level. End of story.
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Until there is nothing left to remake. Then do it all over again. And again. The current studio regimes are the worst in history.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST
The film would work far better as a period piece, perhaps the 1930's or 40's
by wcolbert
In fact the early 40's, during the war, would be perfect - it was the grand era of invention, and the first long-range rockets were being designed and used by the Germans. If it took place today, it wouldn't have the same impact on the people in the film - we've seen working jet packs. Granted, they are not the daily means of travel we expected them to be by now, for practical and public safety reasons, but in the late 30's this would have been something the whole world would sit up and take notice of. The design of the pack itself, of course, needs to be retooled a bit. The way it was in the film, the guy's ass would have been torched to cinders in seconds - so, unfortunately, as much as I like the look of the pack, for the sake of being practical in the eyes of modern audiences, the flames can't be shooting out inches from his legs. The prototypes of the 60's had the thrusters set out to the sides. Also...I didnt know John Locke was in this :P To think I'd seen him many years before LOST, and didn't even realize it!
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What?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??????? HUH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?????????
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Aug. 21, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST
Not to mention there's no way the pack in the movie would allow for any real control during flight
by wcolbert
Damn you, physics. Making fun designs impractical. You jerk.
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People who make out Jones was shit are seriously overstating it. He wasn't the best actor in the world, but he was a decent enough lead and his performance grounded a lot of the more colorful stuff going on around him. Jumping on the bizarre bandwagon of people claiming he was crap does you no credit, young lady.
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If they can sequelize Tron, they can do the same to Rocketeer.. not a problem.
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Or at least release it on Blu Ray. Michael Crawford's gotta eat!
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Aug. 21, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
A thought: we're all remakes. Our atoms have cycled through countless people, animals, even stars and planets. Perhaps this Universe is a remake of another
by wcolbert
You pale immitations of the versions of you in the prime universe! God must have run out of ideas! That hack.
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I remember his name being tossed around for Captain America. He'd make a better Cliff Secord.
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... use Nova or Cannonball!
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I know they develop their own stuff and it wouldn't be an original character and story — but just imagine how fucking cool that movie would be?
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No silly tech updates like they did in Captain America, machinery did not look true 40's style.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 11:43 p.m. CST
The Rocketeer is fantastic. I have very fond memories of it.
by Andrew
It's too bad Captain America couldn't have been this good. Before people freak out, let me say that the first half of CA was good, but the second half makes no sense. It's all kinds of stupid.
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no joke, was just working on parts of my Rocketeer costume for this Halloween. I love this Movie, Does NOT need a remake.
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I agree. Really art deco the hell out of it like those recent Superman Classic shorts by Robb Pratt. Billy Campbell was a weak lead. Sam Jones was complete shit as Flash.
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Aug. 21, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST
"mising?" Also, great score for this flick and that's about it.
by Pixelsmack
Spell check, spell check, spell check.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 12:06 a.m. CST
No Marvel crossover!!! Bettie Page needs to be better represented in this one!
by yeah i'm a jerk!
Marvel's characters have no business with the Rocketeer. But this time please secure the rights to use Bettie's name and likeness. It's what Dave Stevens intended.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST
The Rocketeer Is The Greatest Super Hero Film Of All-Time!!!
by Media Messiah
Loved it!!! It is like Raiders of The Lost Ark meets, the first 35 minutes of Superman, and its last 30 minutes. Just a thoughtful, romantic, smart, humorous, and swashbuckling filled film, one with great class and epic adventure.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST
The Rocketeer Deserves A Faithful Sequel, Not A Remake
by Media Messiah
What a beautiful and rich film it was, and it deserves a similar take, with a seamless sequel.
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I just never knew what people saw in the Rocketeer. Except Jennifer Connelly, of course.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 12:17 a.m. CST
bullshit that movie sucked then and it continues to suck to this very day
by raptorman
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There is only one move I want to see a remake of and that is The Last Starfighter. I love the setup for that movie. They tried to do CGI spaceships well before they should have and the second part of the movie was pretty weak. Which make it the perfect candidate for remaking. Instead of remaking good movies, why not remake something that could be great with modern CGI and a little more time spent on the script? I realy want to see a Last Starfighter remake.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 1:11 a.m. CST
I dug the Movie back in the day but if they remake it they will have to explain why his pants dont burst in flames.
by The_All_Dead
hahahahhhaaaaaa look at it!!! the fire is directly on his ass!!...ooooh fun.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 1:16 a.m. CST
The original had real style and a fantastic James Horner score...
by KEVIN_COSTNERS_RECYCLED_PISS
I'd love to see a sequel/remake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdrVdpFLzvQ
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Aug. 22, 2012, 1:45 a.m. CST
This seems like a great idea, audiences are clamouring for more ROCKETEER action.
by brokentusk
It's early, I'm at work and exhausted. Sarcasm seemed like the only option.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 1:56 a.m. CST
Remakes just smack of laziness. But in this case I'm willing to overlook that.
by i_got_worms
Just don't cast Shia in the lead.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 2:18 a.m. CST
The Rocketeer is more Raiders than Crystal Skull
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
Love that film! For a remake I'd prefer a Pixar animated movie.
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In the sense of recasting the actors but doing a direct sequel to the previous film. As opposed to an overlong, over-reverent film in which the hero lifts heavy things for two and a half hours. Oh, and Joe Johnston MUST direct it. I want to see Rocketeer battling Nazi Rocket-Men!
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Aug. 22, 2012, 2:28 a.m. CST
Billy Campbell read for Riker, but Gene wanted a 'big guy'
by Raptor Jesus
So it could be yet another GR alter-ego on the show. A shame, Campbell would have been what the hell better than Frakes, a nice guy but doesn't bring much to the acting table.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 2:31 a.m. CST
Saw this in the pictures when it came out, loved it then and since....
by Ciderman
It's just such a wonderful period piece, and Terry O'Quinn completely nails it as Howard Hughes.
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Nordling, what on Earth are you talking about? The Rocketeer had charm and style, whilst Captain America was a by-the-numbers adventure flick that could have been directed by a monkey. The only common denominator is the Nazi connection. Rocketeer is a good movie adaption of a great comic book but since that flick John Johnston has redefined the term journeyman director.
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Still have it, and play it! Fantastic Art Deco art in it, one of the most original Horner compositions too, you know how you never forget that something is by him, it's got his signatures all over it? Well this is better than that. Also some lovely songs from the night club scenes as well. Probably my favourite film of the 90's that one. I see what you mean about missing an action sequence, now you mention it....
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The original was an excellent film but the punk kids today would never buy into a guy with a jet pack on his back.
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I fucking love Rocketeer. It's a perfect Indiana Jones style matinee adventure. It's just pure escapist fun.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 2:55 a.m. CST
One of the greatest score of all time. I'd settle for a decent bluryay edition.
by Fortunesfool
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it really was a great movie, had a really great cast, and actually pretty good wholesome family fare. and it had the perfect art deco style poster. Yeah i wouldn't mind this.
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I dont want to see a remake or reboote of it. The only way it could even hope to match the greatness of the original is if Joe Johnston returned to helm, and that probably isnt in the cards. I might be interested in a movie that felt more along the lines of a semi sequel than one that just retreads the origin story. But I just cant picture anyone from today in the age range of Billy Campbell and Jennifer Connelly that could even measure up to them. If it gets made though it gets made, it doesnt take away from the great memories i have of the original and still my all time favorite movie.
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It's a giant budget remake of the Dennis Quaid movie DREAMSCAPE. you guys bitch about remakes and sequels like they're something new. Learn the tiniest bit of film history and you'll find they started remaking films in the 1930s!
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The please find a way to incorperate the Rocketeer fight/rescue at the Grauman's Chinese that Johnston originally wanted to shoot and feature in the movie, but was cut due to budget issues.
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Screened in Hollywood this year in a big restored showing set up by Disney and Creature Features, and it fucking kicked ass in the theater. Buried a lot of recent shit for fun and thrills.
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I saw it on TV a few years ago, my god she was stacked before she starved herself to become a 'serious' actress. movie was ok nothing special.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 4:09 a.m. CST
Let's hope Dave Stevens' family make some money out of it. Marvel and DC usually piss on theirs creators' rights.
by batfunk
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Jennifer Lynn Connelly...
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Bill Campbell still looks good, he could be passing the torch/rocket pack on to the next generation. It would have to be set in the 50s which could work really well. C'mon Disney, we want a sequel not a reboot!
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Should've been more like the flashback sequences in Bru/Epting Cap.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 6:04 a.m. CST
Since it's Disney, can they tie it into the Marvel/Avengers universe?
by Rebel Scumb
I know the comics aren't connected to Marvel, but as a movie property is there any reason they can't do this? Sort of like how Nintendo now owns sonic the hedgehog
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There was just something about it that strongly appealed to my 12 year old self. Even today I'll watch it if I see it on TV.
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What does his family have to do with Stevens' "creator's rights"? They didn't create the character, they didn't draw or write him, Stevens did. Why should THEY keep getting paid for something he did?
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I loved the idea that Doc Savage was the actual inventor of the thing in the comic version. If only they could come up with some way to explain that Hughes hadn't really invented it after all, it was Doc all along, or that Hughes had invented it, but it took Doc to get it to work in a practical manner. Too, it would be great fun if a sequel could be set about fifteen years later and Cliff came out of retirement to help out King (title character from KING OF THE ROCKETMEN) in a particularly difficult mission.
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The year of the Rocketeer (and Costner's Robin Hood), the cementment of Seattle alterna-grunge in the Top 40 charts, and the year I started junior college. Altogether, a very good year for me.
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Absolutley barnstorming performance. Pointless remaking it, they'll never top the original. One of James Horner's very best scores too.
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Sadly - one day I noticed the same thing in a movie. Suddenly she was almost Flat and Scarecrow thin. I figured she had turned 30 and fell for the Skeleton = Youth propaganda someone from her Agency probably sold her. What a shame!
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Actually they started remaking movies at about the same time they started MAKING movies. Edwin S Porter’s The Great Train Robbery (1903) was remade in 1904 by Siegmund Lubin – and then in 1905, Porter himself released The Little Train Robbery, a parody of the first film with kids taking the place of the bandits.
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Without them, she looks like just another clothes hanger for designers.
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If it's a sequel, they have to recast. The comics and original film are an homage to 1930s pulp adventures. Having the film take place 15 years later so as to use the original actors wouldn't work for the same reason that Crystal Skull didn't work – pulp tastes had changed and evolved by the 1950s, and the heroes of the '30s feel out of place in that setting. No, give us a sequel with Nazi Rocket-Men and Johnston directing. And NOT A FUCKING REBOOT.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST
1992 is the first year I can think of within my lifetime that has no OMG I LOVE DAT movies for me
by Autodidact
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Aug. 22, 2012, 7:13 a.m. CST
Yeah I thought this was 1991... I remember seeing the trailer before CAREER OPPORTUNITIES also featuring Jennifer Connely's luscious bobbling tits
by Autodidact
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*funnier if you've seen the movie*
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The original is one of those films that is just about perfect, and is as good now as when it was released. Why bother remaking it? You wouldn't remake Back to the Future, or Roger Rabbit, would you?
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Aug. 22, 2012, 7:32 a.m. CST
Disney should crossover Guardians of the Galaxy with John Carter!
by bat725
That would be awesome!
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There is a whole, new generation of CGI characters to add to the mix. Plus, the voice of Roger could probably use the work.
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It is a completely average movie. I was in college when it came out and it just struck me as silly. I thought it would make me feel better to crap on someone else's favorite film like so many people do on this site. It doesn't... I still feel empty inside.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST
Rocketeer is a rousing action adventure with almost no action
by Autodidact
The coolest part of the whole thing is the 90 seconds of animation in the middle.
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Billy Campbell and Jennifer Connelly have both aged very gracefully. Heck, I wish there was some story way that you could bring back Timothy Dalton!
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Do it!
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Aug. 22, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST
and get Christina Hendricks in there as the love interest
by Spandau Belly
that's how you top Connolly.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 8:12 a.m. CST
Yeah, it definitely needed one more flying sequence. Jared Padalecki'd be a good Cliff.
by Mr Nicholas
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and nobody else named Taylor in any other movie
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Aug. 22, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST
I'd love to see The Rocketeer return, not sure many others would
by amrisharmpit
I always liked The Rocketeer, but the concept doesn't have enough sizzle to attract mainstream audiences. I remember showing it to my dad, a fan of the era in which the movie took place, and he was thoroughly bored watching it. The original came out during the Tim Burton Batman era and sadly, I think, suffered unfairly by comparison. Doing a sequel or remake would be even more difficult now that audiences have been exposed to so many big superhero movies.
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TRUE STORY.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
Kitsch as Rocketeer, Jessica Biel as Jenny/Bettie...
by StatelyWayneManor
...3 people in audience.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 8:31 a.m. CST
Hulk Vs Dracula. Dracula is a dc and marvel character so it could be complicated getting the rights?
by UltraTron
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It's been proven time and time again - the kids (the majority of the movie-going audience) just don't want to see these characters. The Shadow, The Phantom, The Spirit, John Carter - the kids don't care. Most Marvel and DC characters have been around a long time but have remained relevant with the younger generations. I'm not saying The Rocketeer couldn't be good (although the movies listed above aren't, as far as I'm concerned), but I can't see it making money. If they make it "modern", it really isn't The Rocketeer anymore. If they don't, it flops. Don't bother making The Rocketeer again, don't make Doc Savage and don't make Solomon Kane (oops, too late). I would love to see "Challengers of the Unknown", though (so it can rip out my heart the way "The Spirit" did...)
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We all mention her for everything, and she hasn't even had the chance at a blockbuster. She's not getting any younger...
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That movie was freaking fantastic. I remember seeing as a kid and still love it now. I'd love to see this done again, with more money to put to it!
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www.kingbossdesign.com
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A straight up live action sequel would be cool too. I love the original movie. If they do a live action reboot it needs to be set in the 30's or 40's... Maybe 50's. Nazi's or Soviets need to be baddies. How in the hell could you set the movie now? Who would the bad guys be? Lets say a young guy builds or finds the suit... What would the plot be based around? The suit would be dated technology so who would want it? Maybe just have the guys from American Pickers go insane and hunt him down but that is the only option.
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I mean the original movie has a cult following but not big enough to where you could get away with a sequel after an almost 2 decade layoff. I'm not a fan of Hollywood's recent obsession with remakes and reboots but it makes more sense in this case than bringing back an aging cast.
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Good call on The Spirit. What a total piece of shit. Frank Miller showed no respect for Eisner in that pile of excrement.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST
People that don't love The Rocketeer should be strapped to a rocket pack with a leaky fuel cell. ; )
by Dogmatic
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and Mark Waid is about to come out with a mini-series that I'm sure will be fantastic, so there's no shortage of ideas to spur on a new movie. Please, please let this happen.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST
We all wanted to like it. We all wanted it to succeed.
by Mickster_Island
Some of us just decided to like it, no matter what. The rest of us couldn't escape its bizarre boringness.
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it was a great movie when I was 8. Had dreams about flying that entire year. It also got me into WWII-era technology and had me obsessed over bombers and planes from that era (and rekindled that obsessive spirit within my Dad). He would buy me models of those planes just so I could make 'em and appreciate the craftsmanship...either that or he thought they were cool too. probably both. We rented the entire Rocket-Man serial and watched it in one night (remember them watching it in "Avalon"?) Hope this one happens! Rest In Peace, Dave Stevens.
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A Roger Rabbit sequel with the classic toons facing off against the new CGI generation is a fucking AWESOME idea.
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Someone on Twitter suggested that, and I could see it working. He's clean-cut and wholesome enough to play a '30s adventure hero.
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What the fuck is his power again?
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Yeah. Unlike that three hour snooze test I sat thought waiting for Batman to rise...
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You motherfuckers don't have patience anymore. You scream that the movies have no "story" -- and you scream at the movies with a slow, elegant set up of the story as "boring" God, no wonder movies suck these days Trying to please you guys is like trying to find an honest politian -- theoretically possible -- just highly unlikely.
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The Rocketeer was lame, lame lame!!!
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So many things were done so right in The Rocketeer. The feel, the look, the characters, the writing even W.C. Fields, for Pete's sake. And that "captured" Nazi film perfectly reproduced that Fleisher studios late 1930's animation look.
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I'd pay to see a Rocketeer/Cap team up! Of course the Rocketeer fights actual Nazis, so that might be a problem. Of course I'd love to see Jack Sparrow and Barbossa shoehorned into the marvel universe too! (yeah I'm probably the only one) All it would take is a little time-travel courtesy of a time-cube or infinity gem or a Sorcerer Supreme or suchlike. I picture Stark (stranded sans armor) and Sparrow having to cobble together a steampunk type mcguffin to stop some Kang/Barbossa shenanigans. Maybe throw in a subplot where Stark makes a suit of armor out of pirate-era components. Cross-promotion FTW!
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I, too, mourn the passing of Connelly's rack.
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And I will never ever have a problem watching Jennifer Connoly in anything...but Rocketeer was just limp to me...boring. That's probably blasphemy around here but it is what it is... I'll try again one day maybe...
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Take the same idea and put it in a modern setting with new characters. And I bet this time they'll use kids, since that's really the audience Disney is after. And if they do a story and characters not based on Stevens' work, they have more creative freedom and won't piss off the fans of the comics or the first movie (or, they'll piss them off to a lesser degree). :) Maybe (as a small tip of the hat) it's Cliff's 10-year-old grandson or great-grandson and the kid finds the jetpack in Grandpa's attic or something. Make it like a Goonies adventure.
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they would make more cost vs. revenue with a full press marketing push (not the typical half assed effort given for any revival) for the one they have in the can than a remake. The 1991 Johnston film remains in the top tier of comic book movies ever made. It deserves an expanded audience.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST
I'll bet you that those who think The Rocketeer is boring is because of the lead. Billy Campbell has become a fine actor in a lot of projects, but back then
by openthepodbaydoorshal
he was a bit "gee whiz" bland, but the character was a "gee whiz" character. If Indiana Jones wasn't created, and Harrison Ford played the role exactly scene-for-scene, it would be hailed as a classic.
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It's typical of 1990's-era superhero movies (e.g., The Phantom, The Shadow)... too much talking and not enough action. But for what it is, I love it.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST
Campbell was alright as the Okona in TNG. If he coulda brought some of that zip to the Rocketeer, it might've been better
by Mickster_Island
But I think, ultimately, the film's failure is its nostalgia. Period flicks work if they're not always drawing attention to the time they're set in. As I recall, this movie felt like it was being held back somehow. Like it was a TV movie.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST
I have only seen this movie in different bits and pieces, but EVERYTHING I have seen looked cheap and was BORING as hell!
by R Howell
I never saw it as a kid, and never felt like I was missing anything, which was confirmed when I actually started watching it in the mid-90's when Jennifer Connelly rocked my teenage world harder then ANYONE but Kathy Ireland (who is about to become the HOTTEST 50 year old EVER)! Sorry to spoil your childhood, Rocketeer fans, but this movie was SLOW AND PREDICABLE! I have never been that big a fan of anything "pulp" in that style so that may have something to do with it, but I think its mainy because of what I've seen failed to grab me or get me to stay on the channel.
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Excellent! http://www.ebay.com/itm/320968187109?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_500wt_1014
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...care to guess what they are?
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Aug. 22, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST
The Rocketeer is not a superhero...he's not meant to have powers or fight super powered villains - he's a guy who found a rocket pack - just an old-fashioned 1940's serial style hero
by wcolbert
I dont get why people keep making Avengers comments or comparing him to Marvel superheroes. He's not a genius billionair philanthropist. He's not the world's greatest detective. He's not faster than a speeding bullet (even with that rocket pack)...he's just a guy with some guts and some neat hardware.
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Development of a jet-pack wasn't stopped because of noise, it was stopped because you could only fly for about 20 seconds. They couldn't develop a fuel that was lighter or more compact than what they used(hydrogen peroxide).
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I was lucky enough to watch Rocketeer on the big screen when it first came out and it hooked me right in. I love that movie so damn much and I don't want to know anyone who says otherwise. Not too keen on a reboot/remake as it'll just end up not living in the memory for long, be insipid and bland and stuffed with useless CGI effects. I say leave well alone!
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he asked for (drum roll please) The rocketeer anyone know why?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIjL20rM4Fw
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Aug. 22, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
You guys really need to decide if you think remakes are good or not
by Blarg Barfington
Because I'm fucking confused.
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Aug. 22, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST
you guys are crazy, when thinking of reboots this is a movie that comes to mind..
by Balkin Flabgurter
not jurassic park, judge dredd, dumb and dumber, total recall etc. super hero properties and spy movies should be the only legal reboots.
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Now there's some original superhero action. He influenced so many other costumed detective superheroes.
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Aug. 23, 2012, 3:02 a.m. CST
90 percent of The Rocketeer is spent wondering when the hell Cliff will actually strap the damn rocket on and do something.
by TheyPeedOnYourFuckingRug
If they're willing to put some actual rocketeering into it this time, they may have something.
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That's a GREAT idea. Make it so. But in case Disney are reading this, I reiterate, SEQUEL! With Bill Campbell, set in the 50s. Also you could bring back Terry O'Quinn as a slightly older, slightly crazier Howard Hughes! And passing the rocket pack (suped-up, atomic age style!) to a new hero that younger audiences can identify with. Maybe his son with Betty? Yeah, a next generation Secord. Hey, this is writing itself!
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Aug. 23, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST
I skipped through this movie on Youtube yesterday for a refresher. It is BORING AS SHIT
by Autodidact
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Aug. 23, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST
Leave this stuff be. It from another age, and done with vigour in an age when they took a chance and still made original stuff
by papabendi
Now they will turn it into a hollow, cynical, by the numbers, commercial for toys. You know I'm right.
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It's one of the last pure balls-out '80s live action Disney flicks. I mean come on... can you see this movie being made in say 1998 going up against Crapzilla and Patch Adams?
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Aug. 23, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST
For the sequel get Billy Campbell back and set it in the mid-70s...
by Darth_Inedible
You could have a middle-aged Rocketeer sporting a greying mullet and muttonchops. The '70s economy sucks so to eat the Rocketeer is reduced to hitting the road as a traveling stunt act competing with the likes of Evel Knievel. Then an embattled President Nixon lures the Rocketeer back to service after Nazi's are discovered in Argentina working with the Soviets to turn all of South America into a totalitarian superstate!
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