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Guy Incognito steals a peek at JASON X.... tons of pics
Hey folks, Harry here... With the recent 'Scream' murder in France, it struck me that perhaps these violent films were going to create a culture of homocidal maniacs, just like all those Old West movies influenced those bloodthirsty gunslingers in the 1800's, and sure enough... GUY INCOGNITO wrote in with his... bloodletting set break in. I am... of course... appalled. I mean, I think it's obvious that these JASON movies and the iconic nature and heroism of the monster with the machete has turned Guy Incognito into... I can just barely utter it... A photographer and writer! Yes, It's true... Horror films are a terrible influence on the youth of today. Read below and learn all the details of the mental scars it can leave.
Harry, Guy Incognito here with a hot scoop from the set of 'Jason X', the latest in
the Friday the 13th trilogy. Did I say trilogy? I meant DECology. That's right, over the
past twenty years, Jason Voorhees has terrorized audiences through ten (count 'em) TEN
films. O.K., so he didn't do much in the first one 'cept jump out of a lake all covered in
crud, but I'll bet that one shot inspired thousands if not DOZENS of re-enactments at
friends' cottages all around the world (mainly in the warmer climates, though).
Anyways, you all know Jason is set to hit theatres again later this year and word
on the street is that the script is pretty entertaining and, if handled with just a pinch of salt
grains and a dash of tongue-in-cheek-ness, could spell the return of one of the silver
screen's most feared horror icons. Jason is an original, not just some cheap Michael Myers
ripoff. I mean, their masks are COMPLETELY different! I know a lot of people are
getting psyched for this flick so you can't imagine how excited I am to bring you this
scoop. While visting a buddy of mine in Toronto last week, we managed to sneak onto the
set and take a bunch of pics without arousing suspicion. Security was indeed tight but my
buddy had spent the three previous weeks staking out the set from a grassy knoll in the
parking lot. He got to know the routine: When people arrived. When people left. When
people got drunk and staggered around the parking lot yelling, "Hey look at me, I've got a
'Jason X' security pass!" The poor soul never had a chance and with one pull of the
trigger, that security pass was ours. Hopefully, they won't find the grisly corpse 'til I'm
back in the States. Guilty by association, they say.
The particular set we were on belonged to one of the starships called 'The Grendel'
and they were very cool indeed. Can't wait to see Jason flay people in a sci-fi environment,
that's just too awesome to think about. I gotta say, all you people rooting for Savini to
direct were definitely wasting your breath, filming's almost done on this baby (at least
that's what we heard some guy say). We didn't know what director James Isaac looked
like so we just wandered around taking a few quick snaps of the set before happening
upon the motherlode: life-size replicas of a frozen Jason Voorhees. The pics below don't
do the dummies justice. The frost detailing was absolutely amazing! We really couldn't
believe our luck. Sure, some poor bastard asked WHY we were taking pics, but he was
dealt with. It's amazing: though not sharp, prop machetes CAN be quite deadly if wielded
correctly. We put a few props in the body's hand hoping that whoever found the guy
would just assume it was a dummy corpse from the movie.
We decided it was time to high-tail it outta there before we were forced to kill
again but as we passed by a particularly busy area of the set, we heard the familiar
"Chh-chh-chh-hah-hah-hah" echoing down the vast hall. Well, just like in the movies, we
had to stop and investigate. It was there that we came upon our greatest snapshot yet: Sir
Kane Hodder, in full Jason gear, getting prepped for a shoot. I think my dream of
becoming a photographer for National Geographic came one more step towards being
realized. My GOD this guy is big! We fell to our knees, bowing in awe of this great sight.
We realized that this would look a bit too conspicuous so we just took a loud flash-photo
and left yelling, "We got a fucking picture of Jason!!!!" It was a tough assignment, Harry,
even unnerving at times, but we did it with minimal bloodshed. Anyways, here're the pics,
man, ENJOY!
Harry, here's a list of the pics I sent with a brief description of each one:
- Here's a closeup pic of the Grendel model. This is the ship most of the movie
takes place on I believe. Wish I got a wider pic, it looks pretty cool.
- The frozen Jason dummy on a stretcher.
- Another angle of the frozen Jason.
- And another...
- Here's another frozen Jason. This one's holding a machete.
- Pic of one of the Grendel doorways.
- One of the Grendel hallways.
- This set looked like a lab of some sort.
- This is the man, Kane Hodder, getting suited up for a scene.
- This is a wider shot of that shot with a bit of the camera in the bottom of
frame.
Guy Incognito signing off.
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Even though I may not be too psyched about Friday the 13th #10 (more like, I'm quite cynical about thsi film's quality), I gotta compliment your pics, Guy. I think that "The Grendel" looks kinda lame, though. Looks like a hybrid yellow tool box from the 21st century. This opinion may because you didn't get the whole thing in the frame since you mention you wished you got a wider shot. Anywyas, kudos on the photos.
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Why they kept churning out this tripe shit one after the other is beyond me. Sure as kid, I shit my pants watching Jason hack up poor, stupid kids, but now, watching, I barely manage a wet fart, and that usually comes from the burritos.
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I've been a FT13th fan ever since Kevin Bacon got turned into sausage way back in the beginning. I've suffered through the stinkers (Part V and IX) and basked in the glory of (III and VI) and I must say this will be much better than any Jason VS Freddy crap that gets dropped on our heads.
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Looked on IMDB and James Isaac has worked on Return of the Jedi, Existenz and Naked Lunch.
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I know they wouldn't be making yet another sequel unless the last few before this made money, but who the hell paid to see the last ones in theaters?! They flopped b/c they sucked. Could foreign & video really make that much $ for a piece of shit like this?! They should have just left it with the original, just like the Batman, Jaws, and JP franchises! But money is God, and God is money for the bean counters who don't like risk. (Don't you love when these people get to run studios instead of people with enough balls to make innovaive films)?
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i had heard about Jason X, but by god i never thought it was actually happening...the death of cinema, i say, the death of cinema.
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Jason in space? sounds about as good as leprechaun 4:In space. All of the friday 13 series are poor so why make another?
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Seems like Hellraiser 4, but without the cinnobytes, the back story, or Terry Farrell. Hmmm..to say it another way, I'm betting it sucks. And Phantasm 5, a promising geek fanboy violent awesome droolfest can't get funding while this is being turned out? Just plain sad. But good spy work, fellas.
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Hmmmm. Jason in Space? The tenth in the series? No real reason for his comeback?! A crappy script? A crappy director? Crappy acting? Crappy sets? So what could Jason X possibly have that's any good? Gore. Personally, I'm that sick in the head I can hardly wait...
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Apr 25, 2000 5:24:07 PM CDT
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Oh,the dilemma.I fear this will be just another "Takes Manhattan"...yet....being a horror fan...I can't resist the premise!!!A cyborg Jason!!!!Oooh...I feel skeptical thinking about it too much.It'll probably just be like the previous 8,says my logical side(Damn!!I thought that prick went away years ago).But,then again,I felt the same way afore I witnessed "New Nightmare".The problems with that franchise were more obvious(the lack of Craven,the...shudder... RAP songs);the Friday flicks were just unimaginative and dull.The real problem was there was no real reason to bring him back.The only possibly fun idea was letting him loose in a highly populated area,but he was only there for,what,5 minutes?!?!?This time it's different,though.This is the future,and future folk thaw him out...and he's a cyborg!!!Hee hee..me likee.That one premise might be enough for those ninnies at New Line to put FVSJ in gear!Woo hoo!!!This has been a I Never Knew An Evil Genious To Be So In Touch with His Inner Child Moment w/User ID Indeed!
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looks like jason had sex with the abomidable snowman and this is the result.
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This guy is the biggest Michael Meyers rip-off of all the teen slashers. Oh, so their masks are different. They're both dressed in plain dark clothes, move slow (though Meyers does it slower and better) and slash teens. The Friday the 13 movies are all so dumb and so are all of the Halloweens for that matter (with the exception of the origional of course). Besides, why take Friday the 13th into space? What a dumb idea. Didn't he "die" for real last time? If they were gonna make another one of these crap-fests, why not take it back into the woods, where the area is scary all by itself. Space/sci-fi/visual effects usually do not mix well with horror movies (except Alien and no other). Anyway, Jason is a Meyers rip-off, the movie looks byond awful and what bothers me most is that long after I'm dead and buried, Jason will still be alive in his dumbass movies. At least the Halloween folks had the decency to end it once and for all by chopping off the mother fucker's head, which by the way was the one scene that made H2O worth being made.
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First the Leprechan, now Jason. Is this the beginning of a gradual deporting of all our psychotic mass murderers/monsters? What's next, "Freddie vs. Galvatron"? Or maybe "I know what you did Last Moon Cycle".
Everyone get ready for the "Jason vs. Predator vs. Alien" comic books. But if the first installment made me afraid to go into the woods at night, this one ought to make me scared to travel in a yellow(yellow?) space freighter. Where do I sign? -
I like how you clowns can judge this movie by these behind the scenes pics. The movie will not be any better or worse than the others in the series. I can't wait for it to come out. And Hellraiser 4 was a damn cool movie.
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Come on people! Jason is a tired Michael rip-off(despite the maskes). The 13th movies haven't made money in god knowes how long. Why not Freddy v.s Jason? Freddy is so much cooler and overall he is box-office material! Michael wasn't worth ripping off in the first place. I never liked any of the Jason or Michael films(except: H20, Halloween 4-5). Freddy is at least a villan who tries to be a Bondian villan! Jason in space? Two likenesses:1. Hellraiser 4. 2. Leprecaun in space! I think put together they raised $100 at the box-office. Newline has made a big mistake! Mark my words.
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Congrats on the good photos!! I believe this will be alot better than jason takes manhattan because i heard there gonna explain all types of stuff, like about when Jason uses the bathroom and about him getting erections!!! I'm sure it will at least be better than the last few or at least I hope. Anyway I'll go see it when it comes out!! And to the guy who said Michael is dead, well there making a Halloween 8 supposedly, so we'll see.
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First off: that was one of the coolest pieces of reporting I've seen in a while. Unforunately the report is hurt by it's subject: the Jason movies sucked. The entire series was a lame attempt to jump on the halloween and nightmare bandwagon in the same way disturbing behavior and I know what u did last summer and urban legend (and its upcoming sequel) did when scream hit the market.I hope however that the film manages to be better than its predicessors and is better than pervious horror in space adventures (critters 4 or 5 and leprechaun 3)
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Jason sucks. Do we need a tenth one at all? What the hell? Jason sucks. Michael Myers could kick his ass anyday. And they shouldn't make Freddy vs. Jason. How would that work? Its like King Kong vs. Godzilla. King Kong climbs the Empire State building, Godzilla smashes it and somehow they are the same size in that movie. Again, what the hell? Freddy invades dreams, right? Does Jason even sleep. And if he did, he stands no chance against Kruger. If they are going to make something like that, they need Myers vs. Vorhees. Am I right? At least there would be a fight. They should just forget about it all. Holloween: H2K, Jason X and Freddy vs. Jason shouldn't be allowed to be made.
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Apr 25, 2000 10:14:06 PM CDT
Nice report, but it looks like a cheesy Roger Corman movie from
by uncapie
Isn't this being shot in Canada to save money? What a heap of ship this will be! And somebody take an axe handle to user id indeed's colon before I do!
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To compare Jason to Michael Myers is simply crazy!
And the Halloween sequels may not be oscar contenders, but they are entertaining. I wish I could say that about The Friday the 13th sequels.
Jason X. . .zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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Check out Mad T.V.'s Apollo the 13th.
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Check out Mad T.V.'s Apollo the 13th.
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When i was 11, and I saw the poster for Friday the 13th Part 8, Jason takes Manhattan, it looked like the scariest thing that had ever been made.. 11 years old, looking at a poster of a giant psychotic holding a huge knife reaching down over a the darkened skyline. I thought, imagined a dark horror of the stylings that would have driven me into psychosis. I wanted to see, but I thought I knew it would scare me the likes that hadn't been done since seeing The Hitcher when i was 6 years old. Fast forward to 1998. I see the movie.. What an utter piece of crap.. all those years of stewing over what might have been, and it just turns into a light hearted chase Scott Reeves through a tunnel for no reason while ignoring everyone else.. uggghhh!! Fuck I want this to redeem the franchise, and i want it to be great.. but it just seems so fucking lame and cheesy.
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Not a bad report, but it still left me with some questions.
1)Does Paramount still own the copywright to Jason?
2)Who's Producing the movie Paramount or New Line Cinema?
3)Didn't they kill him in the Last one for GOOD, or is this a prequel to "Jason Goes to Hell"?
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OK, it seems as if people here are judging this movie for what the last parts of the series have been and now this. I remember seeing every part of this series and this was not a series made to win Oscars. It was made to entertain people and parties, ect.
Now there are alot of people who have come in here to say that Jason is a rip off of Michael Meyers. The only resemblence would be the walking style. Michael didn't always kill teens seeing as how he was a pussy and tried to attack 7 year olds (Part V) and try to run them over with cars. Now, I'm not sure how he's going to make a sequel seeing as how a woman chopped his head off. An OLD woman. Jamie Lee (shudders) Curtis.
Now onto the subject of people not wanting a FvsJ movie. It would be a great idea seeing as how both a horror movie icons and most people would recognize a hockey mask and the striped shirt. I would pay to see them fight anyday.
And one more thing, why are poeple going to trash talk Jason when I bet every one of you have seen his movies. If he sucked so bad, why did you watch most if not all of the sequels. You know why. Because they are fun. Michael Myers can go kill grammar school kids somewhere but i'm going to pay to see teens getting killed having sex (something Halloween never had;nudity). See ya and keep watching horror. -
Does anyone rememeber the Simpsons episode where Selma marries Troy McClure? And his house is some cheezy seventies place on the side of a mountain, and she says "It's so modern... like living in the not-too-distant future". That's what this ship's interiors remind me of. Is that formica?
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Friday The 13th Vs Nightmare On Elmstreet: Victims Of Evil, where they bring back Kevin Bacon (who got butchered in FT13.1) and Johnny Depp (who died well and gloriously in NOE.1 (im shure as hell that Dirtfish has watched that again & again)) to duke it out at re-animated zombies that somhow have the traits of their killers..can we make some money on that? please? Ill sell you the 2 page script for a dollar? God, i better stop smoking crack soon... AND WHOEVER WROTE JASON X BETTER JOIN ME! Jason in space? Jesus Christ! No - Jason vs. The Spice Girls, now THERES a promising franchise! NUXX OUT.
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I like both Freddy Kruger and Jason Vorhees. All my mates say that they enjoyed most of the friday the 13th sequels because they knew what it was the were going to see:a daft but cool horror flick. This film may turn out to have a bad plot or whatever but me and my mates and most of the people i know will just watch it at the cinema to have a fun night out. As long as it's gory with inventive deaths scenes i'll be happy. The scream movies was okay but they would have been better if there were more gore. I watch sci-fi to be see sci-fi, i watch a comedy to have a laugh, i watch horror movies to have fun and see some cool characters. Horror films are flicks that can easily be taken apart by critics, but people seem to miss the point. Anyway it only seems that American complain about any film just sit back have fun watch movies a nd seey them your way! Freddy Vs. Jason will rock, and if you can't think of plots of how freddy can battle Jason then you are seriously dumb or have no imagination. Plus if people who complain about films had to make one themselves i bet they'd get criticised?! A british critic made a movie Virtual Sexuality and his movie got called shit and everything. Do you see my point or do I gave to simplify everything?!
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I will go see the new Jason movie. I saw the original three Friday the 13ths for the first time all in a row when I was a kid and I was hooked from there. Yes, the movies after IV (with the exception of VI) suck. Yes, the acting's bad. Yes, the Friday the 13th series started out as a rip-off of Halloween and Psycho. I didn't care. As each sequel progressed deeper into the shitter, I still sat in the theaters, popcorn in hand, and watched. I will be there this fall watching the new Jason movie. It is utter bullshit that they don't even call it Friday the 13th anymore. I hear humor will be played up in this one. Oh joy. Horror played straight is the best way to serve horror. Humor should be a way to break up the tension that the horror creates. There shouldn't be scenes where we laugh at Jason, except for those of us who chuckle when Jason makes an especially grusome kill. I hear that Jason urinates and actually has an erection in this film. Please God, let this be false. Everything points to the fact that I will be disappointed with this film, but I can't help it. I'll be there with all of you. To the makers of this movie:Suprise me people. Make it good. Prove me wrong.
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If you're a machete-wielding monster, why do you give a shit if people see your face?? Is Jason worried about acne? That, to me, is the most ridiculous part of the whole franchise, that Jason gives a shit about his face.
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Apr 26, 2000 8:17:23 AM CDT
MalwynO2k, ten miles into the sky is only 52,000+/- feet. Jason
by uncapie
You must have meant a hundred miles into the sky. Anyway you slice it, the movie will bite.
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Apr 26, 2000 8:56:55 AM CDT
COMPARISONS to LEPRECHAUN AND HELLRAISER??!?! LAME ARGUMENT!!
by jvoorhees
What makes a good movie?? A great script and crew to pull it off. JASON X has received many great script reviews. Saying that this movie will suck because of other movies sucked is IDIOTIC!!! Is that the best you can do?? If you're going to make a comment on how good a movie will be, BACK IT UP! People who love the series and don't care for it say the script is great. If they can pull it off, it will still suck because Leprechaun sucked?!? Gimme a break! You know nothing about the film. If this isn't your type of film, why are you wasting our time posting?? The filmmakers realized that there would be some reaction like this. But they loved the script so much, that they had to make the film. So until you have seen the film, you can't say that it will suck. ANd PLEASE, no more comparisons to other films. It's moronic.
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How do you not compare films to other films?? Isn't that why we have genres? Plus when you make 9 sequels, you're askin' for some comparison, aren't you?
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How do you not compare films to other films?? Isn't that why we have genres? Plus when you make 9 sequels, you're askin' for some comparison, aren't you?
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Apr 26, 2000 10:26:00 AM CDT
JASON BOARD VOYAGER KILLS ALL MEMBERS ENDS CRAPPY SHOW!!!
by fried samurai
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Apr 26, 2000 10:47:57 AM CDT
THAT's a spaceship!?! It looks more like a space-age boombox!
by hammer2fall
Fortunately, that is my only gripe at this point. Pretty cool pics, especially of the frozen Jason. I'd hate to be near that sumbitch when he thaws!
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What is it titled again? Jason X: Hyperspace to Video.
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Since the talkback seems to be fucked up still, I am numbering my posts. It seems to be the only way for there to be any logical way of interaction in the talkbacks until Harry gets his head out of his ass and fixes the posts. Anyway, jvoorhees, I hope your post is true and the rumors I heard about the urination and erection scenes are not in the film. I want this to be a good movie. I think all Friday fans wish for the day when a F13 movie can be well made. I have been more terrified by the writing and directing in the last few movies than anything Jason has done. I think that every F13 movie has one or two extremely cool parts and that is what makes us come back for more. So I pose this question to you all, let's make this talkback interesting: What is your favorite F13 moment or kill? Yes, we know people think this movie will suck and that the F13 movies in general are sub-par cinema, but you read this story or posted on this page because you have watched the movies. So what is it? My personal favorite is a tie between the whole mobile home sequence in VI and the part in VII when Jason smashes the girl in the sleeping bag against the tree. Classic horror cinema indeed. C'mon you sick bastards. Give it up.
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Don woo . i believe you stated something like this in your post "The entire series was a lame attempt to jump on the halloween and nightmare bandwagon"
I would just like to ask you how stupid you actually are?... Do you not realize that Friday the 13th was up to part 3 by the time the first Nightmare came out?1.. HOW THE HELL COULD IT COPY A MOVIE THAT HADNT EVEN CAME OUT YET?!?!.. and even if the first Friday is a copy of Halloween, Halloween is actually copying Friday .. Friday was up to part 2 or 3.. i forget... when Halloween 2 came out.. Halloween went on to make sequels because they saw that Friday the 13th was doing good with their sequels... it doesnt matter what Friday copied because it is actually the movie that started it all no matter what Halloween fans say.... BTW Im not saying i dont like halloween .. i love it.. but Friday is just as good if not better... and i cant wait for Jason X! -
In the last few "Friday" films, Jason`s head behind the mask looked all mutated and decayed and stuff. In these pics, the head looks normal, even with what looks like a hairline.
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We'd like to meet the dimwit who thought this one up.
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I was reading all of the talkbacks about this movie. Everybody has been comparing Jason to Holloween, but only one person mentioned Psycho. How could we all forget Psycho, the king of slasher movies?! Without it there would be no Holloween (which the director said is an homage to Psycho, even Dr. Loomis is named after the boyfriend) and without Holloween there would be no Friday the 13th (which is fine with me). And jvoorhees, you are an idiot. You say that we can't judge it because it may be better than the other sequels? Name one franchise that made crappy sequels and then a good one all of a sudden. There is none, either the sequels all sucked or they were all good. Or the second one was good and the third and fourth sucked. Whatever. The only other franchise with enough movies to campare to Ft13th is James Bond, and when a Bond movie sucked, the next one was good. Wait, even that doesn't count, because until Licence to Kill they were all based on novels. It doesn't matter, Jason X will suck no matter what.
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Damn, it's good to see Kane Hodder behind the mask again ! After some initial doubts, I'm beginning to think that although waaaaay derivative, this could be an entertaining diversion for an evening !The only thing is, where do they go from here ?
And to the poster who wanted to know why Jason needs a mask....for the same reason Superman needs his "S" logo !
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You beat me to the sleeping bag death. Runner up: In part 3, when the guy walking on his hands gets hacked in the crotch. The big titted chick in part 5 who gets her eyes scooped out after the usual coitus interruptus in the woodus. Horshack from Welcome Back Kotter, making his Drew Barrymore 'Scream' comeback in part 6-with a shovel through the gut. Greatness.
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Here's a review from somebody not associated with New Line Cinema. They gave this script to be reivewed by the webmaster to crush rumors and calm any worries about the idea of the film.
hree words have struck fear in the hearts of many Friday the 13th fans: "Jason in space." Visions of
Hellraiser: Bloodline and Leprechaun 4 floated through many fans' minds, prompting some to post things such
as "JASON X IS GONNA SUCK" on the Message Board. Always count on your friendly, neighborhood
webmaster to get to the bottom of things - and put those fears to rest. Everyone from Sean Cunningham to
Michael DeLuca to Kane Hodder to Harry Manfredini has loved the script - and rightfully so. The script rocks.
If it scares you, don't just think "Jason in space." Think Final Chapter or Jason Lives in space. I don't mean
that it's just a rehash of previous films in a new location. But it strikes the same balance between gore, humor
and frisky teenagers best shown in 4 and VI. What, you thought there would be no pre-marital sex in 2455?
No over-the-top gore to tick off the MPAA? Well there's plenty.
Now for the script - it's the best of any of the Friday the 13th films. I have no hesitation saying that. Does that
mean it will be the best of the series? Well, that's the thing - Jason X will be a different kind of Friday. It
contains sci-fi elements that, despite the well-written script, may turn off those with a "horror and only horror"
sort of mentality. But this isn't Star Trek folks - no boring technobabble, ridiculous aliens or uplifting morals
here. This isn't a sterile future - it's one that, despite 400 years of advances in technology, also bears the grit
and grime of 400 more years of humankind.
I don't want to spoil it for you, so I'm not going to provide a breakdown. I know that even for fans who want to
see the film cold, it's hard to stay away from that info when we've been waiting for a new Friday for SEVEN
YEARS. But naturally I know I'm going to have to share a few bits to get you interested. So:
The film opens with a montage in which we'll (hopefully) see scenes from the earlier films.
The beginning of the film takes place in the "Crystal Lake Research Facility."
Don't worry, the future still has very, very sharp things for Jason to play with...
This film certainly has more action than any other Friday the 13th. Probably more than two of the
previous films combined...
The script reveals two very interesting things obsessed fans have wondered about for a while (no, I
won't tell you what, but one is so frickin' funny...NOT URINATION OR ERECTION)
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Thats all I need to say
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Too much pointless negativity on these talk backs, whether it's the X-Men, or Jason X. All you psychics out there who just KNOW a movie is going to be bad should instead put your considerable talents to winning your state lotteries.
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I agree. If you're gonna freak, don't drag Jesus into this.
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Markensons right on. I am tired of people claiming that a movie sucks before it comes out. And comparing a movie to others when you know very little is just dumb. As for my screen name, I just chose it to respond to this talkback. Some people have constructive things to say, but there are many who have NO point and whine ALL the time. I have nothing invested in this movie.
"This movie will suck no matter what" is a reason why I posted. If there were a 100 bad Fridays before, it doesn't mean this one will be bad. NEVER has a Friday the 13th had even a slightly good script review. New Line greenlighted this as soon as they read it. People who don't even Fridays loved it, as well as long time fans. So to trash it at this point is wrong. Give it a chance, or go on to the next talkback. Personally, I'm tired of the Teeny bopper horror, and I'm hoping to see an 80's style horror movie with an upgrade. But it may suck..who knows. -
Since you seem to be the only one still on this talkback, I will address you personally. I really hope this movie surpasses any previous Friday film. I have not read the script yet, but I have tried to follow every report and critique of the film to date. My main concern about the film is that there is no real need to change the location of the series. If Blair Witch Project did anything, it proved that being stalked in the woods alone is still pretty scary if it is done right. Moving Jason from Crystal Lake was a huge mistake in Part VIII and was immediately ignored in the next movie. I know I am taking this too seriously, but like you, I would like to see a Jason film that is done right. Humor used in IV and VI went with the horror and made the movie more than gory kills. I would much rather see humorous horror along the lines of Return of the Living Dead. After last years Sixth Sense and the Blair Witch Project, horror moved up a notch. It was respected as a force at the box office and that means that more horror films will be given a chance to be made. I don't want horror to fall back into the direct to video and poor production categories after it had such a great run last year. I don't blame the other posters for being cynical about the film. History has proven with the Hellraiser and Leprechaun series that taking the horror into space was a wrong move. Those franchises were on their way into the shitter already though. I'm not saying that it can't be done, but the odds are against Jason X given those two failures. Another question is where do we go from here after the series jumps into the future. Will Jason read that necrinomicon on the desk in Jason Goes to Hell and go back in time to the persent? THey have sort of painted themselves into a corner if this film doesn't work out. Oh well, I have already said I will be there when this film comes out, giving it the benefit of the doubt. I really want to be suprised with this film.
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Since the government obviously knows about Jason now (see the beginning of Friday #9), this is something they could do with the storyline that would be pretty slick... Have the government capture Jason and use him as a weapon to handle dangerous situations for them. For example, if they had the location for a group of terrorists, they could fly Jason in, drop him (literally - you know he'll survive pretty much any fall) onto the building the terrorists are in, and let Jason clean up. I think something along these premises would be kick-butt. I don't have an entire plot worked out, obviously, but there could be some cool twists thrown in. This type of movie would break the Jason formula that plagues most of the others, and would be a new direction for the franchise... Whaddaya think?
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Apr 27, 2000 4:08:08 PM CDT
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by jvoorhees
I agree with ya..Your worries are definately warranted. But some of these people are just trashing it without knowing anything about it. The movie can easily fail, but everything is falling into place. It's dark, very bloody and violent. All the elements of the early fridays.
As for where to go from here?? Well, if it does well, there's EARTH 2. Maybe a new camp on that planet. Remember this ship is rocketing back to EARTH 2. Also, if it bombs, then they can pick up right after Jason Goes to Hell. After all, Freddy vs Jason will take place during our time. They can have sequels after that.
By the way, Kane Hodder says that the teaser will be out in MAY along with tons of official pics. -
First off, Halloween 4 was one of the better sequals. Halloween 2 sucked. 3 was...shit. 5 was Ok. 6 was neat. h20 was bitchin.
Second, Michael didnt get his f'ing head chopped off. When he was being loaded into the ambulence, he switched clothes with one of the people inside the ambulence. Michael was actually in someone else clothes. So when the ambulence lands on "myers", and he reaches his hand out, he is REALLY trying to get help. Since its a REAL person, not myers. They will probably continue the movie from that, and Myers will try and kill Curtis again.
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I agree w/ someone who said they'd like to see a Friday the 13th film done right. This would include CALLING it FRIDAY THE 13TH.
I mean, just take a second and SAY that to yourself. Doesn't that just sound bad-fuckin-ass?? I mean, just saying that sounds scary as all hell! ooooh...Jason X, yeah, that sounds real scary. It sounds like some Denzel Washington movie. I'm not saying much here that hasn't already been said, but I just HAVE to speak my piece. 8 was stupid. Why? Cuz it didn't take place in Crystal Lake. What happened in the next film? It ignored the previous. It sucked too, and that's why this next piece of garbage is going to ignore THAT one...so on and so forth. Remember when sequels had to do with each other? Like someone else said, The Blair Witch Project proved that being stalked in the woods can still be scary if it's done right. Whether there's blood and gore (which I'm sure the MPAA will keep to a minimum) and even if there are times when my girlfriend jumps because there was a startling scare in the movie, the idea is STILL WACKY!! IT STILL SUCKS!! I want Jason in Crystal Lake where he damned well belongs. Not in New York, not in space, not on FUCKING ELM STREET, CRYSTAL LAKE! There's something mysterious about the lake. It's almost a character itself. Having Jason without Crystal Lake is like having Jason in a movie that's not called "Friday the 13th". -Oh, wait...heh...Hollywood...whatever.
Some other things I wanted to say... The idea that someone came up with about why Jason has to wear a mask. I thought of that too. That would be a cool idea. It's REAL cheesy how he keeps finding these masks conveniently placed somewhere soon after he "comes to life" because the writers of the last movie DESTROYED IT! Anyway, I've rambled on a lot here and you guys are probably tired of reading it..that is, if you even still ARE reading it.....post a feed back or email me....later.
-THESLANDEROUSC
Oh, just for the record: MY list of Fridays from best to worst is as follows...
6,4,7,1,2,3,5,9,8...(X?) -
has anyone seen leperchaun in the hood??
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Actually, there is continuity in the Friday movies. Do we need to see Jason get walk from Manhattan to Crystal Lake? Of course he would go back there. The mask is no longer a physical thing. It's just part of him. It appears with him. At Crystal Lake again?? That's more far fetched than any other idea. Who in the hell would ever go back there?? With almost 200 killed there, it is absurd to have anybody else wonder into the woods. ALTHOUGH, you are right. Jason's element is in the woods. I LOVE the setting. Unfortunately, they had to branch out. PART 8 didn't work because of a poor script, horrible acting, bad score, and bad direction. They decided to send Jason to Manhattan then wrote the script..it was a gimmick. THIS time, the setting serves to further the story.
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talk some sense into the talkbackers... yet again. Man I get bored of this. Firstly I'd like to answer a couple of things in one... New Line Cinema only have the copyright rights to Jason the character. Paramount still own the friday the 13th name. That's why it was Jason Goes to Hell and that's why it's going to be Jason X instead of Friday the Thirteenth 10 or whatever... we happy now? Also there was a question about naming a franchise that suddenly got good. Easy... the childs play serious... I mean that was dumb right from the start... ah a scary doll... no I think not, but take a different spin on it... and wham... excellent film. I think that film probably conviced some of the studios out there that the old hands could come back succesfully. Jason X, well the idea is so dumb that the fact the script is getting such good word means that there MUST be something special about it. I mean, the people reviewing it probably didn't wet themselves with glee at the thought of setting it in space. Also bear in mind that this isn't no cheap straight to video affair, but the highest budgeted Friday yet. On the whole set in space 'issue' that some of you seem to have... bloodlines was gut wrenchingly awful... sure... but was it bad BECAUSE it was set in space? I mean did the space bits suck any more than the other two thirds of that film? I don't think so. Bloodlines sucked because Dimension raped the film. Leprechaun... well come on... did anyone think that leprechaun 4 had potential? I think not. This film looks like it puts new breath into the whole slasher movement... like it or not. It's taking a huge risk with it's setting and I seriously doubt that it would have got the budget to be made if the script wasn't there. So we got bummed before hey sue me. I mean I'm not the biggest fan of the series even... six piqued my interest, I've not seen 2 through to 5 to be honest, and I'm one of the few people out there who enjoyed the ninth one. Maybe because I don't hold jason with some really high regard I don't know. But just as Bride of Chucky made me want to check out a serious of films I'd thrown away, so does this. Lets give it a chance at least shall we? And like I said, this film must have at least the right script or it would never have got the budget. That's not to say that a good script guarantees a good film of course...
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If New Line knew what was good for them, they'd SCOOP up my FREDDY vs JASON script...I'll give you all a taste(minus the battles & plot twists & there are PLENTY!) If my prayers were answered, I wouldn't want the whole thing on The Net & spoil the movie...Here goes:
Opening Credits appear over EXTREME close-ups of The Freddy Glove
alternating with Jason's Mask. Flames Fade in and Out as Newspaper
Clippings MONTAGE over one another tracing Freddy and Jason's
Respective Histories.
WE Open On a College Lecture Hall. Students are waiting impatiently on
their Philosophy Professor. Among them are CRAIG, his girlfriend
ELIZABETH, and her African-American friend BINGHAM. They are
soon joined by Craig's Richboy/Slightly Geeky roommate VERDY. They
sit for a while, then start to leave, but Elizabeth starts to get one of her
"feelings". The Prof is about to come in the door.
JUST THEN, The Door Opens and in walks DR. NEIL GORDON
(Craig Wasson from ELM ST. 3: Dream Warriors). He apologizes for
being late and starts class.
He lectures on The COLLECTIVE EVIL theory, which states that
Mankind's Own Evils and sins, from smallest to Largest, gather together
and are returned to Earth in various forms.
He issues a group assignment to the class to deliver a report on The
Nature of Evil. During Class, Elizabeth looks out a class window and see
a little boy staring at her intently. She looks away for a second and the
boy is gone.
CRAIG, ELIZABETH (or Beth), BINGHAM and VERDY stay after
class to talk to him. Dr Gordon looks Haggard and tired, but Pleasant.
As he explains more about the assignment, a picture falls out of his folder.
The pic lands face up on the floor. It's a Picture of NANCY
THOMPSON (Heather Langenkamp from Elm St's 1, 3, and New
Nightmare). Beth bends to pick it up, touches it and another "feeling"
washes over her; she feels cold. She asks Dr. Gordon about the woman in
the picture. He just says regretfully, "Someone that I cared a lot about
who, uh... died." He excuses himself and walks out leaving The four
students bewildered, except for Beth who gets a very unnerving feeling.
LATER, at Dr. Gordon's house, He drinks and listens to some classical
music while staring at Nancy's Picture. He stares for a long while then
goes to his study. His desk is cluttered with papers, books, etc., on
Dreams, Serial Killers, Ancient Folklore and FREDDY KRUEGER.
He looks at the Clipping, which has a picture of Freddy as he leaves The
Springwood County Courthouse. The caption underneath explains that
Krueger was freed on a technicality. Freddy's cold stare is looking right at
the camera. He has an eerie smirk on his face.
Dr. Gordon holds up Nancy's pic and looks back and forth from it to the
Clipping of Freddy. He then lights a candle and sets the Freddy clipping on
fire. He watches it burn and says, "Soon, and very soon, you son of a
bitch". WE SEE an EXTREME close-up of the clipping as it's burning.
The last thing we see is Freddy's eyes staring right at US.
CRAIG, BETH, VERDY and BINGHAM are discussing their
assignment. BETH talks about her "feeling" when touching the photo of
Nancy Thompson. Bingham and the guys roll their eyes and make friendly
fun of her for her emphatic and extrasensory gifts. Beth warns them that
something VERY strange is going on with Dr. Gordon. They all agree to
start their research the next day.
CUT TO: The Crystal-Lake County Registrer's Office.
HERBERT, the old county clerk, receives a phone call. We don't hear or
see who he's talking to, but by his answers we know he's heard something
rather disturbing. He calls SHERIFF MEEKER's Office. Sheriff Meeker
nods a few times and hangs up. He also has a concerned look on his face.
We follow his car as it makes its way out to the area that was CAMP
CRYSTAL LAKE. He pulls up to the shore of the Lake. Out in the
middle of the lake is a MAN in a canoe, fishing. Meeker waves for him to
come in. He comes in. It is TOMMY JARVIS (from F13 4, 5, & 6).
Meeker tells Tommy that some development company has just bought
Crystal Lake and that he will have to vacate the land. Tommy tells him
that he has to stay in case Jason's evil returns.
MEEKER: Look Tommy, I've never had a problem with you staying on
the camp grounds the last few years (after the events in JASON Goes to
Hell) because you're quiet and I never had any trouble from you. Besides,
I knew your Mother and I know you had some problems growing up, but
the fact is you don't own the land. Some big-shot Development Co. Up
north does now. They'll be up in a week so you have to be gone.
TOMMY protests, but SHERIFF MEEKER tells him he's better be gone
in a week. Tommy reluctantly nods. Meeker drives away, but as he's
driving away, he looks in his rear view to see Tommy glaring at the car as
it pulls away. Tommy goes to the cabin he's been staying in and looks
around. It looks like a Jason Museum: clippings, sketches, Old Hockey
mask. He also sees pictures of his Mother and sister. He shakes his head
violently and cries and starts to trash the place. He finally calms down.
He holds up the Hockey mask and stares at it. WE SEE TOMMY's
FACE in One of the Circles in the Hockey Mask.
THAT NIGHT at BETH & BINGHAM's CAMPUS APPARTMENT:
Beth is tossing and turning in her sleep. WE ENTER HER DREAM as
She finds herself staring at The Old Elm Street House. The wind starts to
blow; lightly at first and then gusting. The Door to the House Opens. The
wind picks her up and sucks her toward the open door.
BUT... Just as she's about to go through the Door, the Air around her
CHANGES and starts to RIPPLE like WATER - SPLASH!
Suddenly she finds herself Underwater. She flails around completely
panicked and disorientated. She struggles to come to the surface. A
SMALL ARM reaches out and grabs hers and pulls up toward the
surface. She makes her way out of the water to the shore. She sees an
old wooden sign half buried. She makes out the words: CAMP
CRYSTAL LAKE. While looking at the sign, she notices out of the
corner of her eyes THE SAME LITTLE BOY who was staring at her
through the Lecture Hall window. Now The little boy is wearing only
swimming trunks and is soaking wet. She tries to talk to the little boy, but
he runs into the forest. She chases him but loses him in a clearing. She
stops. RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER IS A STORE: The Sign above says
THE SHOPPE: Antiques & Rarities.
She yells for anyone. Nobody. She walks up to the door of the SHOPPE
and is about to open it when A HAND grabs her shoulder from behind!
She screams... AND WAKES UP. CRAIG's hand is On her shoulder as
he tries to Calm her down.
CRAIG tries to CALM ELIZABETH down, but she still can't get her
dream (?) out of her head. She also can't explain why her nightgown is
soaking wet.
The next morning, CRAIG, ELIZABETH (Beth), VERDY, and
BINGHAM are walking to a coffee house when Beth spots the same
storefront she saw in her dream: THE SHOPPE: Rarities & Antiques.
Despite the others' protests, she drags them into the store. Everything is
Old, Dusty, and Spooky. We see all kinds of things.
All four of the college kids look around the store. FROM BEHIND A
CURTAIN (POV shot) SOMEONE/THING IS WATCHING them.
Beth gets another "feeling". She turns toward the curtain.
BETH: HELLO?
The Curtain opens and out steps AN OLD MAN.
He is Disturbingly Gentle-Looking.
OLD MAN: Why Hello There. Welcome to The Shoppe. What can I do
for you?
BETH: We were - uh - just looking around, Mr--
OLD MAN: Folks just call me THE SHOPPEKEEPER.
CRAIG: I never noticed this store before. Are you new here?
THE SHOPPEKEEPER smiles at him.
THE SHOPPEKEEPER: I've Always Been Here.
They look around the store some more. VERDY asks what's behind the
curtain/door. The Keeper tells them that The SHOPPE is also a "Gallery"
of sorts. He escorts them to them back to the room.
INSIDE the room are Dozens of Display Cases. Many different weird
things: A CHAINSAW, A PUZZLEBOX, A DOLL, A WHITE MASK,
BOOK WHICH LOOKS TO BE MADE OF HUMAN FLESH, ETC.
VERDY comes to TWO COVERED UP display cases on the end and
asks about them. The 'keeper says they are New Arrivals which he
"hasn't properly prepped for display yet". The Four kids plead with the
Keeper to see them. He pulls off the cover to reveal A familiar
RAZORED GLOVE in a Glass Dome and an equally familiar
HOCKEY-MASK and MACHETE in another.
EVERYONE is silent. Then SUDDENLY VERDY starts to laugh. Then
CRAIG starts to laugh, followed by BINGHAM. Everyone is laughing
except BETH and THE SHOPPEKEEPER. VERDY makes a joke about
the two items, apparently not knowing their significance.
The KEEPER starts to explain some of the history behind the objects. We
start to flashback to clips of both series, highlighting significant
developments, such as both characters' "Deaths" in NOES 6 and JASON
GOES TO HELL)
A BELL IS HEARD OFF SCREEN. Somebody has entered the store up
front. The KEEPER excuses himself and goes up front to help the
customer. BINGHAM comments that she heard something about JASON
a long time ago. VERDY suggests that they do their project on Freddy
and Jason. All Agree, Except BETH who is still silent. CRAIG asks
what's wrong. Without speaking, BETH takes the Glass Cylinder off the
Pedastal and PICKS UP THE GLOVE. She gets a WILD FLASH in her
mind and FAINTS. The others help her up and bring her to. Her eyes are
wide and crying. She tries to describe what she saw. BINGHAM and
CRAIG say they should leave, Beth disagrees. They put the glove back.
BETH reaches for the HOCKEY MASK. She feels another terrible
shock, but inside her mind, SHE HEARS A YOUNG BOY SCREAM.
She puts the mask back just as the Shoppekeeper returns. VERDY (a
rich kid) offers to buy both objects. The Shoppekeeper refuses. Bingham
asks how he acquired them. The Keeper says they were sent
ANONYMOUSLY with a card that just said: A GIFT. VERDY makes
several offers, one higher than the next, but The Keeper still refuses.
As the four (CRAIG, BETH, BINGHAM, and VERDY) walk
back to campus, they talk about what they saw.
BETH: When I touched the glove, I got this.. this... feeling of pure evil.
All I saw next were flames and somebody standing behind them. He - It
was laughing. And then for some strange reason, I saw the picture of that
girl (Nancy Thompson) that Dr. Gordon had.. the friend of his that he said
died...
VERDY: What did the man look like?
CRAIG: What man?
VERDY: He... She said HE was standing behind the flames. What did he
look like?
BETH: I'm not sure. He was sort of silhouetted behind the fire. All I could
make out was the Razored Glove and a hat. He had on a hat.
BINGHAM: Maybe it was that Krueger Dude the old Shoppe Guy was
talking about?
VERDY: Are you serious Bing?! C'mon, You're the LAST person I
thought would believe in spooky kids' stories and old town legends.
BINGHAM: Have you ever heard the saying, "Behind every Legend,
there's some truth?"
VERDY: Yeah, but please - Dreamstalkers killing people in their sleep.
Serial killing Hockey Players? I don't think so.
BINGHAM: How do you explain BETH'S gift?
VERDY: I don't know. All I know is--
Verdy's Beeper Goes Off. He checks it.
VERDY: It's my Father. Oh Lord, What now?
They pass The Local Library. Craig suggests that they go look up some
info on Freddy and Jason. Verdy goes to use the phone to call his father.
A LITTLE LATER...
Craig, Bingham, and Beth are pouring over stacks of Bound Newspaper
Clippings and Books. Bingham reads aloud some of Freddy's known
exploits while Craig reads aloud the adventures of Crystal Lake's favorite
son.
CRAIG: These guys have done some heinous shit. This stuff can't be
true.
BETH: What if it is?
CRAIG: Baby, I'm with Verdy on this one - some of this stuff--
BINGHAM: Some of this stuff is actually Documented! We're sitting
here reading it! Eye witness accounts--
CRAIG: Look, How many nuts have you seen on those tabloid shows
babbling about seeing space ships or ghosts.
As Craig and Bingham's Verbal Debate Fades into the background,
BETH is staring at an article about young Jason Voorhees drowning when
she looks up and sees the SAME LITTLE BOY she saw in her dream
and outside the Lecture Hall window. He is standing there LOOKING
DIRECTLY AT HER...
BETH is frozen. She stares right back at the boy who hasn't moved at all.
She gets up from her chair and walks toward the boy. Just before she
reaches him, a LIBRARY AIDE pushing a big carted stack of books
crosses between she & Jason. When he passes, the Boy is GONE.
BETH looks all around. On the floor in front of her is a BOOK. She picks
it up and look at the title: THE CRYSTAL LAKE MURDERS by Jenny
Fields (the only survivor played by Amy Steel from Friday The 13th Part
2). She flips through some of the pages, some of which have pictures of
Crystal Lake & some Early Family Photos of Pamela Voorhees, Jason,
but on the page that had the pic of Elias Voorhees (Jason's Father). The
top half with his face on it has been torn out. BETH closes the book and
looks around Uneasily.
MEANWHILE: IN SPRINGWOOD, A DEAL has just been made to
buy and renovate the Springwood BoilerWorks.
BETH looks at the inside of the Crystal Lake book and gets the
publisher's phone number. BETH tries to get a hold of Jenny Fields about
her Crystal Lake book, only to find out that Jenny was found DEAD a
few days ago. She goes back to CRAIG & BINGHAM who are still at
the library table arguing. She tells them about seeing Young Jason and
finding the Book on the floor. Just then VERDY comes back and says his
father is ill and his family wants him to hop on the first plane home. They
check out the Jenny Fields book and all the other Freddy/Jason documents
from the library.
THAT NIGHT: CRAIG, BETH, and BINGHAM are pouring over all the
information while making notes. BINGHAM thinks a while and offers a
suggestion: WHAT IF THE THEORY OF THE COLLECTIVE EVIL
(which in the first installment said that all of mankind's own evils are in a
sense "recycled" & sent back to Earth to torment him) IS TRUE? Just
then there is a KNOCK at the door...BETH goes to answer it. It is DR.
NEIL GORDON(NOES part3), their Professor who gave them the
assignment about the nature of evil. His clothes are disheveled and he's
partially Drunk.
BETH: Dr. GORDON?
Dr. GORDON looks at her, a faraway look in his eyes.
DR.GORDON: Oh Nancy...
(He starts Crying)
can't:...Nancy I'm sorry I couldn't save you...
He caresses BETH's Cheek. She is scared. CRAIG comes and shakes
him.
CRAIG: Dr. GORDON... DR. GORDON!
Dr. GORDON snaps back to himself...A FEW HOURS LATER, after a
few pots of coffee, GORDON tells about Nancy, his encounter with
Freddy, and the news that the Springfield Boilerworks have been bought.
He turns to BETH.
DR.GORDON: I know about your psychic abilities. I wanted a chance to
work with you and help you develop them. I had some students... patients
at one time... Freddy killed them...
CRAIG: You mean this whole Dream Killer thing is TRUE?
BINGHAM: What does that have to do with Beth?
Dr. GORDON looks at BETH.
DR.GORDON: You're the only way I can enter the Dream Realm...I
need to find out if he's coming back.
CRAIG: You want Beth to go look for this guy?!? No F*ckin' way, Doc!
DR.GORDON: There's absolutely no danger, If she even starts to twitch,
I can bring her out of it...
CRAIG: No way!
BETH: I'll do it...
CRAIG: What?!? Beth, NO!!!
BETH: I have to...I have to save him.
DR.GORDON: Who?
BETH: The Boy.
BINGHAM: What boy? Jason? Beth, Jason's not a little boy...He's a
monster...Besides...He's dead now. So is Krueger. Some of the
documents we found said that Krueger's real daughter was said to have
actually killed him.
DR. GORDON: She's dead.
BETH: What?
DR GORDON: Her name was Katherine Krueger(from FREDDY's DEAD). I met her a while back & stayed in contact with her over the last few years. I only found out recently that she'd been murdered. So was Alice-
BINGHAM- Wait, we found some info on an Alice...Who was she?
Dr. GORDON: She was the last link to my original students. She absorbed the memories of Kristin Parker, one of my students...Kristin had psychic abilities...much l;ike I suspect Beth has.
BETH: Let's do it.
AN HOUR LATER in the campus psychology research lab...Beth is lying on a bed with wires taped to her head and fingers. The wires are attached to a series of machine. DR. GORDON, with BINGHAM & CRAIG behind him, sits on the edge of the bed and starts to put Beth in a hypnotic sleep.
She starts to go under.
In BETH's mind, we see vague images at first...She sees The Springwood Boilerworks...she sees men bringing equipment...directing them she sees a figure that seems familiar but can't make it out...
She takes a step toward the figure, but she VANISHES.
The next thing she sees are TREES...She adjusts her site & looks around. She recognizes the place from her dream. She's at CRYSTAL LAKE again. She looks through the trees at a CEMETARY.
She sees men bringing in equipment just like at the boilerworks. Out of the corner of her eye, she sees someone also watching from behind the trees.
It's TOMMY JARVIS.
Tommy also notices her. They start toward one another, but then BETH VANISHES AGAIN...
BETH IS STANDING AT A DOOR. She stares up at the sign. She's in front of THE SHOPPE. She enters & calls for The Shoppekeeper. No answer.
She walks in back to The Gallery.
It's been wrecked.
She sees The Shoppekeeper on the ground, coming to consciousness. She helps him to his feet. He tells her that he went to complete the display for the Freddy Glove & Jason Mask when someone hit him over the head. They go to the display.
BACK IN THE LAB, DR. GORDON & THE OTHERS wait...
BETH bolts up violently. The others restrain her & try & calm her, but Beth is frantic.
DR. GORDON: BETH! It's alright...it's alright..Now focus...What happened?
BETH(almost babbling): Someone's bringing him back...He's coming back... Resurrection...Hell on Earth...
DR GORDON: Who? Which one? Freddy?
CRAIG: Jason?
FLASHBACK TO THE SHOPPE A MINUTE AGO IN BETH'S MIND. She and The Shoppekeeper approach the display. Beth gasps.
THE SHOPPEKEEPER: Oh no...
BOTH THE MASK & GLOVE are GONE...
BACK IN THE LAB
BETH(wide eyed): OH MY GOD...BOTH OF THEM...
****TO BE CONTINUED!****
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Wonder if new line are paying us fans any attentione here... :P okay so this is my take on what I feel the f vs j angle should go. Firstly there are a couple of similarities between my idea and the above one... but I've e-mailed samwash a copy of this... and I hope you'll agree that I've not ripped him off. This isn't the full idea, because that doesn't really exist... just the plot. As is, there aren't really any wham bang set pieces... but there's room for them, and I think the idea is creepy as is...
Okay my idea... well some of this will probably ring familiar but hopefully not enough that this is boring.
The opening of the film revolves around mainly around one guy... John Stoker. A young psych student who is writing a paper of the phenomenom of 'Perceived Psychopath Reincarnation', which he feels to be a brilliant title as it lets him analyse the minds of the psychopaths and the victims families they left behind. It focuses mainly on what John believes to be the modern myths of Jason, the killer that wouldn't die, and Freddy, the killer that came back in a different plane. He has all the facts... and interviews some of the survivors... this would be a moment where new line could try and get some crowd pleasing cameo's in place natch.
My opinion of the whole Fred Krueger angle is that he is only dangerous if you believe he is. For example, at the beginning of the first nightmare, when he tries to kill the blonde girl... all that occurs is a few scratch marks left on her dress. But after they realise they are dreaming about the same guy... she begins to believe she really is in danger. That's why she invites her friends over. And that's why she dies. Of course... this in turn sets off belief in Nancy and the others. Another small but possibly irrelavant theory revolving around this is freddy was always after the parents, but couldn't get to them. As for explaining Fred not sleeping with the fishes, that seems to me rather simple, as I never bought this bring him into the real world and kill him there schtick. After all, killing him in the real world is pretty much what put him in the dream world right?
They knew he was dead because they killed him. The children didn't know he was dead, and in there minds at least... he was still out there.
As John starts building together his information... he begins to believe some of it himself and as he begins to believe, he begins to have nightmares about Krueger while visiting Springwood. A combination of his own belief and his proximity to freddy's heritage being the culprit. He rejects his initial idea that Freddy never died in the first place, his belief being that once they torched the steel works, the parents didn't hang around to watch him burn.
Freddy get's into his dreams, but he doesn't believe enough... yet... to be at major risk. So he continues on researching his psychology paper, visiting crystal lake to interview the locals there, and is surprised to find that a few Jason esque murders await his arrival. His theory with jason was that jason hadn't drowned in the lake, but nearly had. Somehow he returned home where is mother kept him locked up at home as he grew up, when Mrs Vorheese died, there was noone to keep jason and checked, and if not unhinged before, unhinged now by the death of the only person who seemingly cared for him, Jason began his psychopathic stint. After a long series of murders Jason was killed, and John believed the rest to be down to copy cat killers, or every single murder in the area being pinned on jason.
The death rates are spectacularly high though, so again John wonders if the rumours and constant fear for life that goes on in crystal lake hasn't pushed more people over the edge. John convinces a couple of locals who claim to know where jason is buried (the spot where he was pulled down) and they go out there and excavate the spot. There is no body, just a hockey mask. A maskless, and much alive Jason, arrives to reclaim his mask.
When John see's Jason in his true rotted glory he can't doubt his eyes. Only John makes it back safe, alive, with the mask and when asked what the hell is wrong with him, instead of the probably expected 'I just saw a ghost' nonsense he comes out with... 'If he's real... then what about the other fucking one?'. The guy who asked the question says nothing and John goes to his room.
Jason, still looking for his mask, is advancing on John, who is trying to stay awake, and not being as successful as he could hope for, falling asleep in front of the tv as Jason get's ever nearer. Johns dreams, naturally, turn to Freddy, the house... although freddy isn't wise cracking or being stupid... just pissed after being out of the game for so long. Jason enters Johns room, and just as john is stabbed in the dream by freddy, he is also stabbed by jason in real life.
Jason, finds himself torn into the dream world, and a distracted and bemused freddy tries, unsuccesfully, to kill him recognising him as another force of reckoning. John's injuries have put him into a strange walking coma, unable to distuingish between reality and dream... never being fully awake at any time, and instead of taking this oppurtunity to kill him, freddy holds back... realising that he is not only stuck in John's mind as john is the only one who believes anymore, all those others who faced him believing him dead, or being dead themselves, but... losing John could mean being consined to nothingness oncemore, one victim wouldn't rise much belief to get more.
John is hospitalised, and... as freddy uses John's coma state... to attempt to branch out into John's family and friends, spreading his power, John finds himself trapped in a weird limbo where he is aware of his real surroundings, but at the same time, they lie putty like in freddy's hands for his bidding to stretch them and bend them as he chooses.
This ads a weird and what I think would be a cool odd three way balance. Firstly, Jason is still set about trying to dispatch of John, not understanding that he is no longer in the real world, but similarly trapped in John's coma, while Freddy is trying to keep john safe... for the mean time... while trying to use him as a pawn so that he can finally kill John, and then move onto his family and hopefully onto other victims past them... John of course is trying to keep himself alive, but also his friends and relatives safe.
Freddy is working john well, getting him to come out with all sorts of shit about being afraid of a killer with knives for fingers and a dirty red and green striped sweater while his family are around, even seeing to it that they find his work. Jason makes an attempt on John, and Freddy realises that not only does he seem unable to kill Jason, but he cannot twist dream reality around him like he can others. Jason is unstoppable, but Freddy has to stop him, realising that only his physical strength combined with his intelligence, can even begin to slow him down long enough. Only by managing to get some of Jason's past out of the knowledge in John's head, is freddy able to stop him. Tormenting Jason with his memories... his mother... being bullied... nearly drowning... and his many deaths.
Through a combination of mutilation and mental torture... freddy manages to begin slipping into a few of John's friends and relatives, and finally kills John, hoping to leave Jason behind as he does so. Killing John releases Jason into the hospital... where he adds a few more notches to his belt. But Jason is still getting in Freddy's way, by getting to Freddy's victims before freddy does, limiting those that he has to gain more. He finds himself down to one, but again, he resorts to his cunning, using this last victim to do what he doesn't seem able to do... fight jason, by convincing them that he means them no harm, and that Jason is the real problem... pointing to the fact that Jason was sighted almost instantly after John's death.
The final victim gives in to freddy, ala freddy's revenge... and becomes like an extentension of freddy in the real world. Yet as he is waging his war on jason, his final victim, still knocking around inside psychologically... is fighting freddy internally, having realised by there possesion that freddy was not the innocent he made out to be.
As he kills Jason, seemingly the victor, he drops his guard allowing his final victim to face him down, facing down there own fear, and reclaiming there body. They leave believing freddy finally vanquished forever, no one believing anymore, and Jason dead, dismembered by freddy's knives.
Obviously... the idea would need a lot of fleshing out. I mean I've only really expanded three of the characters, but... as long as realistic characters as opposed to the usual sub standard horror fare were used, probably drawing on documented human reactions to a loved one losing there mind and dying for realism, to make characters we actually care about, then this I think would work. I mean, there are other good ideas out there... yours sounded promising... it's hard to comment fully not knowing the whole thing... but as this probably shows... I want something that not only lives up to the premise freddy vs jason... but is also scary. I mean freddy and jason have a fight and one or more die. Why am I scared again? I also think psychiatry is a good way to go, partly from the strength of the third nightmare, but more from the fact that freddy is based in dreams...
Again it pits freddy and jason head to head without pissing on the characters too, like it doesn't make jason good or any crap like that. I read a draft of the script that had a character shouting 'STOP' at jason, and him doing just that. Oh so he wouldn't have killed all those other people if they'd just asked him to stop? Come on. I know that, I change a little of the krueger mythos with my idea that it is only with the belief has to be with the person for them to be able to be one of freddy's victim, but that idea does sit with the history of the films as far as I can see.
so that's it. And if you read all of that... thanks :)
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I don't care what everybody's saying about how Jason X will suck. It's a new Jason movie and I just wanna see a new Jason movie. I'm tired to see everybody comparing it with Hellraiser or Leprechaun.
Jason isn't Pinhead. He won't kill people with some magic tricks. He will kill them with the same old machete or something like that. That will rock!!
I'm a fan of the four "SLASHERS KINGS " (Jason, Freddy, Michael and Pinhead). I loved almost every movie of these slashers (the only one I hated is Halloween 3). I can't wait to see Jason X, FvsJ, Hellraiser 5 and H2K. I will see all of them, and I will love them.
For everybody who's saying that Jason X will suck,
WHY DON'T YOU JUST GIVE IT A FUCKING CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Quebec.
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i am an complete nut when it comes to horror films, jason is the best slasher, he is the most prolific killer with over one hundered stabs,chops,cuts and breaks. i enjoy all the horror films, but to me the rest of the killers in the slasher genre seem to be a bunch of pussies with meager death counts. so michael myers,freddy kruger, leatherface, pinhead,norman bates etc,are all pretty crap, i am not saying i don't like them, i love em, but i personally think they are a bunch of pussies, but that is just my opinion, and as they say opinions mean shit because they are like arseholes.... everyones got one
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First Of All, Jason X is going to be a great movie. Didn't you ever here the famous saying Don't Judge a Book By It's Cover. Just because Jason is in Space doen't mean itz a bad movie. I think it is a great movie. I mean we are going to be in space someday, arent we? For some reason, Everyone forget about the Sci-Fi Horror Series Alien all the way through Alien Resurrection. It was in Space, though everyone loved it. I think you people are just not used to Jason being in Space. I mean Blair Witch Project must of been the lowest budget film ever made only $10,000. It grossed over $100,000,000. That is why Blair Witch 2 is coming out. I think if Jason was more Satanic, you wouldnt give a crap if he was in space or not. You dont appreciate anything. I have long awaited this sequel and 7 years in the making doesn't suck. If you think it sucks go see Titanic again. Now on Jason Vs. Freddy, this is what i think the plot is. Jason & Freddy both want to kill the same girl/boy, and they end up in the same place. Only Freddy haunts dreams, so Jason falls asleep (How Stupid is that?) and wakes up in Freddy's Dreamworld. He sees's freddy and they start to fight over the girl. The mom wakes the girl/boy up, and the girl/boy explains what happened. The mom turns out to be one of the counselrs at Camp Crystal. Its something like she ran away, when he came out of the lake and she never came back. From there, things go haywire. The girl falls asleep, the mom goes after her. Freddy & jason team up. In the end, they get pushed into a hole or a volcano or something. Thats the ending. Now Wouane Let Me Say Something, Pinhead is dead, and Hellraiser aint coming back. I never heard about h2k either. So stop making up movies and shut up.
Thank You,
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If you don't trust me about Hellraiser 5 and H2K, just go to
www.upcominghorrormovies.com or members.xoom.com/forevrhorror/Menu.html
and see by yourself.
Thank you
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look i can remember seeing my first friday film and was shiting my pants with fear that was when i was 10 (granted i was a pussy) and now im 18 and enjoy those films with the same careless fear (minus the shiting)and amazment to this day i've been a jason fan for this long and im sure after jasonx i'll still be one so eat my big smelly nuts.
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Jason is not a micheal myers rip off , hell he did not come but 6 months after halloween was made and the guy was probably writing the script and not giving a damn about any micheal myers..besides who are you to say anything about jason being a micheal myers rip off you arent making the money or the script or even heard you're nobody so you wouldnt know anything about it ...and if michael myers is so much better than jason how come he got his head cut off by his sister!!!!
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Why dont all you whining babies shut your mouth and watch the damn movie when it comes out instead of crying over how bad its going to be..besides how do you know..if you dont like the movie then nobody even wants to hear your nobody ass saying anything about it..why even waste your time talking about it if you dont like it shouldnt you have something better to do..like watch winney the poo or some shit..get off our case for liking the movie and leave us the hell alone..we grew up on this movie and we're trying to talk to other fans and have a good time while you rejects pull words out your ass to see how bad you can wreck the movie before it even comes out.well leave us the hell alone jason X is going to be a great movie because im just as psychic as you bitches...
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Okay. Number one if you dont like the movies or the genre what the hell are you doing on a message board for it?! Number two that moron who said this movie is the death of the cinema is full of crap. Number three if you haent even seen the movie, if in fact the movie isn't even out yet, how in the hell do you know if it sucks or not? I havnt seen the movie, or read the scripts so I don't know if it is gonna suck or not, but at least I am keeping an open mind. All of those who are compaing Jason to Michale Myres are ignorant. So they are both unstopable monsters, does that automaticly make one a rip off of the other? They had totaly different motives, locations, and, yes, masks. In fact Jason started out with a potato sack with an eye hole in it over his head. Myres motive was he was totally insane, Jason wanted revenge. Meyers was in a small town, Jason was at a summer camp. The only thing in common was they were both mosters and both had several succesfull movies. And that is all I got to say.
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Jason. V
A young boy drounds in camp crystal lake.
A mother who is destroyed mentaly after her sons death reeks havoc,
and revenge on the young teens who
she belived were responsible for Jasons death.
When it all started was it based at all on endless murder.
I think not.
The best story structure which was shown through friday 1-4 was revenge not carnage
with the viewer almost understanding the torture and anger of both mother and son.
where is jason now but a vehicle of mass evil.
why didnt they return Jason to his orgins of wrath and maybe closing the door on his carnage.
After all isn't he just a man a like any of us. maybe more than that now as it seems but i want to know were his simle humanity went.
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Jason and Michael
abviously products of bad families
(kidding)
Jason... WOW just a killing machine no motive these days just pure evil. That does freek ya a bit. But like (TheSlanderousC)
stated Jasons power is that lake its were it all started, its were he found his evil.
The same as Michael Myers he needs his town of Haddonfield.
Dont get me wrong I loved the idea of Karie Tates methadone crazed x hubby as the copy cat killer in H20 (WERE DID THEE HORROR MAN LEARN THIS?)
Micheal is smart but not drivin enough to search FBI files to find his believed deceased sister.
Jason in space BRING IT ON. but stop changing your mind about how things left off in the previous installments
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OK, i have seen some of the dumbest most moronic people on this page that i have ever seen. I hate when people get up on these pages and start talking crap, when they have no idea what they are talking about. I love Jason, and i am looking forward to Jason X as much as the next Jason fan, but cmon guys, Jason blatently copied off Michael Myers. For those of you that dont think so, check your resources and Sean S. Cunningham AND Steve Miner will FULLY ADMIT that they copied off the idea of Michael Myers to create Jason. I also agree with not trashing the Jason X movie, till it has a chance to have its time on the big screen. But if its anything like that pathetic attempt of a horror film "Jason Goes To Hell" i will say it sucks. Jason is best seen in his full outfit, not this body switching crap. Jason is very cool, and so is Freddy, but sorry to say guys, Myers takes the cake. But i saw one intelligent person who made reference to Psycho, who we should all give credit to, because if it wasnt for that, none of these great characters would exist. My point: Think before you speak, and just dont speak if you have no idea what you are talking about.
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WHATS YOU FAVORITE WEAPON JASON EVER USED IN HIS MOVIES
MINE WAS THE AXE ALL WAYS THE AXE IT WAS GREAT CANT WAIT FOR THE NEW ONE!!! JASON 10 -
I think how they should've ended part 5 was have tommy go to jason's grave and try to burn him then. When he gets struck by lightning tommy runs away. Now everyone would obviously know that the other jason was a fake, then cut to the end sequence setup where tommy was going to get waxed by the fake jason, but the real jason kills the fake one, and tommy runs away with the camera locked on the real jason. THAT would've been a better setup for 6. As for 8 and 9, they should've called part 9, firday the 13th part 9, jason goes to hell. Also, the turning into a boy part in 8 was stupid, at least they could've ended it with jason back in crystal lake with an ambush awaiting. More logical sequencing would've been nice.
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No matter how you shake a stick at it, New Line Cinema bought Jason and screwed him. You say,"Watch it first". I got them pegged man! They took a horror icon and turned him into what did NOT attract him fan fare. They turned him into Sci-Fi. They screwed up. MORONS!! Nobody cares about a horror character in space. This is ten times worse than sending him to Manhatten. I also propose that they will, like juveniles, not accent on Jasons direct prequel, Jason Goes To Hell. People will say,"i'm not buying a ticket, first he goes to hell, then he gets out of hell and ends up in space. Not!" NLC, of course will not explain how. No one cares about cybering up a horror icon. That's foolish. There's also no turning back!! You can't go back and make him the legend of the woods even if you try!! Forget about it. You should have done it before. All you wanted to do was stick a hatchet in the borgs hand. Give Mr. Gazoo a knife. Give chills throughout the enterprise, with sounds of chee chee haa haa. MORONS!! If you like Sci-Fi, deal in Sci-Fi. Don't take Jason From the Horror fans and JOB him out to sci-fi fans. It's wrong!! I have no doubt, that in time, you will pay the stupid tax, New Line Cinema.
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Hello to all you horror movie fans out there. I have read almost all of the reveiws on this page and I feel that a few of them were excellent. First of all...the Halloween Series...The first two Halloween movies were genuine, except for a number of flaws the idea and setting were imaculate for the horror film industry as a whole. The idea of a white faced, jumpsuit wearing killer with no emotion, expression, or voice was just BAD-ASS! Part 3 was a terrible mistake...Parts 4&5 I feel were also very good...they fit the pattern and idea of the series (negating part 3) well, and although Michaels mask sucked ass in both movies... the end of part 5 gave us something to look foward too in part 6. I feel part 6 was the best Halloween movie made...the original was great too, but Micheal was the most dominating and bad ass in 6...However, 6 had some flaws in it too, like the age of Jamie Lloyd...now H20 was a disgrace to the series because it didnot follow the pattern. It certainly did not pick up from where part 6 left off and the idea that Jamie Strode would keep her son of 17 years (Josh Harnett) and give up her other child of almost the same age (Jamie Lloyd) just does not make sense...I feel Halloween 8 should pick up from where part 6 left off, otherwise this should have happened: 1) Part 8 should start off with Jamie Lee Curtis (after having chopped off Michael's Head) wakes up from a "day dream" of what she see's happening and she is in the van still driving with Michael in the back..then he somehow escapes or something..or 2) Michael switched his identity with some one after Jamie Lee Curtis and LL Cool J walked away from him when he was laying on the concrete. He knocked them out, taped up their mouth and mask on somehow so they didn't have the opportunity to reveal themselves...which would make sense too..These are the only ways of getting around the death of MM...
Now as for Jason and the Friday the 13th series...the idea of going to space is kind of risky...I mean the whole series does not have much dignity left anyway, so it can't hurt it anymore...however someone had a good point of capturing Jason and using him as a defense weapon...now that would make for some interesting entertainment...having him take out the bad guys for a change...
One final note is something I thought up for myself...it is a game that someone could create where you do a virtual reality simulation of Friday the 13th or Halloween...You would be in a forest and if you could survive Jason for like 10-20 minutes then you win...or in Haddonfield you would have to protect Laurie Strode for an hour or something...something like this would be one hell of an amusement and could probably rake in the cash...I know I would give it a shot...Thanks for your time.
The Horror God
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Although I have given some criticism to the Friday the 13th movies...I still think they are freaking awesome....I mean if anything you will start to laugh at some of the gay shit that happens in them...and god knows that when Jason X and Halloween 8 come out in theatres, I will be one of the first ones in line waiting...gay as they may be they are still part of the series and everyone here who criticizes Jason X, will most likely pay the $8 it costs to go see the movie anyway, so why dis it? Why are you at this site in the first place if you don't like the movies? Or have some interest in them? Just admit that they are somewhat entertaining, if anything. The Horror God.
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I never really thought of Jason being a rip-off of Michael. We don't know if they copied or not. The first Friday the 13th didn't even have Jason in it as the killer and that was a great movie. Maybe they did copy but who cares? Everyone copies off of someone! Jason is way scarier than Michael too. And Jason is scary with his mask off. In a Jason Vs. Michael situation, Jason would most definitely win. He's bigger and stronger.
By the way..Michael is not dead. Halloween 8 is starting filming in the spring. It turns out that it wasn't the real Michael in H20.
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I read that someone said that Halloween 2 was not as good as
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i think who ever critizes Friday the 13th movies suck hardcore because i think that Jason Voorhees Is the best homicidal maniac out of all the classical horror movies from the 70's to today!!!!It Doesn't matter who was first to start the horror movie jason had the goriest murders and thats all that counts and to hear about JASON X I will be counting on it to RULE so that is that And I think that Halloween H20 was a kick ass movie TOO!! and I been waiting to See Freddy vs Jason because that will be the BEST Fighting movie EVER!!!! and i recomend everyone to see all these movies that r just coming out to theatre!!!
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Okay, I am a huge fan of the Halloween movie series, but also love Friday the 13th. Paramount was THE company for F13. JGTH sucked(thanks to New Line Cinema).
Now, critics and the MPAA have called Jason X a great effort, but I have a feeling it will betray the die hard F13 fans, like me. New Line wil botch another F13 movie.
Speaking of New Line's F13 movies, what the hell is the deal with not having "Friday the 13th" in the title. That just pisses me off. They're money grubs, who know that the name "Jason" registers better with non-fans, than the name "Friday the 13th." (New Line released "Jason goes to Hell, and is releasing Jason X. Prior to JGTH, Paramount released all F13 movies, with "Friday the 13th" in the title.)
Anyways, I don't think us die hard F13 fans will be pleased by Jason X. Then, they'll have to figure out a way to get Jason back to modern day Crystal Lake in Friday the 13th XI, or as those cash cows at New Line will probably call it, Jason XI, or some shit with "Jason" in the title.
The only way to bring Jason back to modern Crystal Lake would be a time machine. Don't you think that's a cheesy? Well, it isn't any cheeser than body switching, now is it?
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HEY MONKEYS,ya freddy vs jason is gonna come out also along with Jason X and if u think thats gonna be dumb freddy vs jason?its in hell,remember freddy pulled jasons mask under at the end of jason goes to hell?ya its a team-up not a fight....they get out of hell and one kills in dreams and the other in real life at the same place!!!!duh you monkeys!
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OK, I know I'm gonna get crucified for this but just here me out. 1. I'm a huge fan of the F13 series. They're my fave out of my horror collection. 2. The Hellraiser franchise may have gone to hell, but "Inferno" saved it. Inferno's an excellent flick.
So here I go. Everyone's all like "F10 will suck. It's in space! Space sucks...blah blah blah and so forth" Here's where I stand. Y'all just keep quiet. F13 isn't exactly known for it's incredibly moving plot or characters. They are slasher flicks made purely for entertainment and that's all. There was no deeper meaning to it. I'm happy as hell that they're bring the king back for more carnage and all you fans should be too. I'm anxious to see how this'll work and regardless, plot or no, I can say I will enjoy this film just because it is a Jason flick. So there, cruxify me if you will but at least I got to say my part. This is the Violent Messiah signing off -
well, ive been a friday the 13th fan for a long time and i have to admit that the sequels have gone a little over board but im looking foward to Jason X and freddy verses Jason. even though some of the acting has gotten corney i still enjoy watching and own all of the friday the 13th films. ive prob seen them all at least a few hundred times each and love them all in there own way. i hope for the best for new and exciteing things for Friday the 13th
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Jason: died originally. Came back as a walking zombie to kill again. Ok.
Micheal: a child who was never killed but has been shot, stabed, burned, blown up, run over, chopped up, drown, beaten, bashed, kicked, punched, and anything else you can do to these guys. He keeps coming back. ?????
Am I the only one that notices that there is a problem here?
I love the Halloween movies, but it seems to be kind of stupid..in a laugh at it way. But, I have also noticed that any horror movie series has that 1 crappy movie.
Friday the 13th: Part 8.
Halloween: Part 3
Nightmare on Elm Street:...not sure, maybe 5. How the hell does he just bring himself back?
Hellraiser: Part 3
Childs Play: Pick one.
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First of all look back to all the F13 films and Halloween and as you can remember, Jason never killed his family, unlike Myers jason was killing because the counselors killed his mom myers killed his family because of his curse by the thorn!! OK i might be wrong but i saw part three and i saw that NEW LINE CINEMA work on that movie and the i saw f13 PRT.6 and it had NEW LINE CINEMA in the begining of it too! and i do not see how you people hated Jason goes to hell because that was the best looking jason of all films the worst film of F13 was part 8, now that movie sucked ass... at the end when he gets his face melted it looked like a clay figure from celebrity death match... but, other than that all of the films were good and i can barely wait for
Jason X to come out because the newer the horror films are going to be the better type of graphics they will have!!!! JASONRULEsS MYERS is TIGHT and FrEdDy BloWS -
I DONT see the reason you ask why does Jason wear a mask and not asking why does michael wear a mask well an answer i think might fit into this question will be maybe Michael and Jason wear masks because you notice in the Halloween F13 movies people dont realise its a DEFORMED Face (jason/michael) under the mask and will just think its someone playing a trick... like in part one of halloween when laurie sees michael but just thought it was some guy getting ready for halloween so she doesnt care.. and in F13:6 when jason stands out infront of the Slug bug with the two teens inside and the teens just thought it was a guy wearing a mask to scare them!!! but you can never actually know what the real deal is with the mask...
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i hate the fact that this movie is coming out with the same shit such as women kicking jason's ass once again, what is he a FAG or something?. i think we all know lexa doig is gonna kill him (if that is the case, i am really disappointed at kane hodder for taking this role)
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I don't care what anyone says even if the Jason x and jvsf movies suck Kane Hodder will always be my favortie actor/stunt man,
YOU ROCK KANE
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does anyone know what studio in toronto JASON X is being shot @
plz e mail me shortys98@hotmail.com
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In halloweenH20 michael myers gets his head choped off by his sister,but is he realy dead?After being burnt,stabed, shot and every thing els michael must be able to come back somehow,right?if he does come back he must have his head back! or maybe someone else will be the killer.I just hope it doesent tack a plot like the stupid halloween3 did,then halloween8 (wich is in development)would realy be a sucky movie!
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I just wanted to say that anyone who doesn't like jason shouldn't even respond.They can make 10 more shitty jasons and I would go see every one of them.By the way SHAVENMONKEY there is no way Myers could kick jason's ass with that bullshit knive.There are 6 million ways to die and jason has thought of them all!
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Does anybody have any idea WHEN the new film is going to be released? I for one am sick of waiting.
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by jasonvsfreddy
Hi people!Ok ok I have to admit I'm a Jason and Freddy fan.Stop booing!I am a sucker I have to admit I like ALL I reapeat ALL friday the 13th movies and a nightmare on elm street movies...Yes I even like jason goes to hell!Ok now to my point.Firstly Jason X.Well this movie is looking to be a box office hit and I know its not the same if jason aint at crystal lake but does it matter I mean HES GONNA KILL THEM ANYWAY DOES IT MATTER WHERE?I must say though this is a new and original plot for jason.The special affects on this movie are gonna be sweet.I also heard that theres gonna be a guest appearance-someone coming back from the past?Thats all I can say about that.Now Jason vs Freddy.This movie will be eqaully as great (in my oppinion) to Jason X.I have to admit it is confusing cos' some people are saying there teaming up together and killing but,I have also heard there is gonna be 2(yes 2) different endings,one in which freddy ones and the other jason wins so your gonna see this film twice(if your a fan of either or both of these killers).There is also a cast that I found from a website it is really wierd.
Jason:Kane Hodder
Freddy Krugeur:Robert Enguland
Lisa Wilcox:Alice Johnson
Kari Keegan:Jessica Kimble
Whitby Hertford:JacobJohnson
Erin Gray:Diana Kimble
Heather Langenkamp:Nancy Thompson's Ghost
Well decide for yourself.Also I have seen the rejected script and its pretty damn good.It was rejected because of script problems and they are rewriting a new and improved script,if its improving from the rejected one its gonna be a AMAZING film.On a further note,Halloween 8 well I will try and find some info for all you micheal myers fans but its weird how he comes back after his head was chopped off it could be his spirit or one of his relatives who knows we will found out soon.Also stop arguing!Just cos people like certain films dont mean u have to ADMIT the films are crap!Can't all us horror fans live in peace?
If you want the Jason VS Freddy script email me at hiphoprulez3030@hotmail.com -
i have to admit this Jason stuff has really been drawn out but Jason just rocks. He may not be my favorite killer i a movie (Pennywise the Clown) but I'm not gonna be one to judge it before i see it. Also,I would like to see some more doll killing in Child's Play 5. hurry up!!
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First off, I'm wondering why the heck they took so long. Second, this one better not suck. From what I've heard, itll be pretty cool, but you never know. I've seeb more horror films theb I can count, and none of them really had enough gore to satisfy me. Well, with any luck, this one might be different.
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ALL YOU PEAPLE TALK IS SHIT MYERS RULS JSON WALKS LIKE HE IS A BAD MAN BUT A RIGHT PRICK MICHAL IS SKILLED AND NOT STUPID HE HAS KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN JASON FREDDY IS A WANKER THAT I HATE THE MOVIE IS CRAP FREDDY VS JASO AND HALLOWEEN NO FUCK UPS JUST PRPER KILLINGS I VE SEEN 1 2 3 4 5 6 H2O (H2K RESSURECTION)I AM WAITING 4 THENNEXT ONE TO CUM OUT COS RESSURECTION MYERS WAS NOT KILLED TILL THEY FIND A WAY TO KILL HIM THEY WILL HAVE TO CARRY ONMAKING THAT IS THE GOOD PART ANY WAY MYERS IS THE BEST PYCOPATHIC KILLER THERE IS NOT MERCIFUL JUST PURE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE FUCKIN RULES THAT IS THAT OK
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