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Is This An IRON MAN 3 Trailer Description??


Dr. Evil sent us the following message about an IRON MAN 3 trailer he got a look at.  He outlined the circumstances in which he witnessed this material - and it seems highly, highly probable that the information herein is legit, and represents a trailer being considered for Shane Black's forthcoming picture (due in theaters early May 2013).  

Nonetheless, take this with a grain of salt, as Dr. Evil is a first time contributor, and many variations of trailers might be mulled between now  and the time material arrives on computer, television, and theater screens.  

Here's Dr. Evil...

It opens with a voice over of Tony Stark talking about how the events of New York (I’m assuming the Avenger Movie) changed him, and how he’s just not “into it” anymore.   First scene is Iron Man with battle damage,  laying down amid rubble and taking of his faceplate to show a bleeding Stark. Scenes of him arguing with Pepper Potts in the armory  (cool shots of alternative Iron Man suits including the red white and blue one we’ve seen on your site already),  press conferences, Tony looking solemn, Tony talking with someone who looks like a psychiatrist, and a short shot of Don Cheadle in military uniform (no War Machine in the preview).  Also one scene of who I presume is the Mandarin, forcefully landing and cracking the ground.  However, it looked like a silver Iron Man.  I was unable to tell in the brief view who it was  (maybe due to  unfinished CGI).

We then get a voice over from Ben Kingsley, talking about how there there are no heroes and how he will teach everyone, especially Stark, a lesson.  This is over scenes of the alternative Suits getting blown up, Stark going into surgery, and a fleet of helicopters launching missiles which blow Stark’s home up and apart  (the CGI looked nearly finished) and sending Stark and Pepper into the sea below.   Then a close up of Kingsley with no helmet in the Mandarin armor.

It ends with Iron man underwater swimming towards what looks like his “heart reactor thing”.  Then the logo, then stark walking in the snow dragging a large bag, then the logo again.

All and all, a somber trailer, dark and  humorless, which seemed more in tone with  The Dark Knight Rises than with any of the other Iron Man movies or the Avengers.

 This is my first time writing you.  I you use this, call me Dr. Evil.


More as we know more...


Glen Oliver




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  • Aug. 13, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Yes, that's a trailer description.

    by tomandshell

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Sounds promising.

    by Jonathan


  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Sounds better than IM2 already!

    by Stalkeye

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Mandarin armor?

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    What da fuck? C'mon Shane, don't dare let me down with another Armor vs Armor climax.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST

    They're shooting it already?

    by Ricardo

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Sounds like the Skyfall trailer.

    by DOYLE1

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Mandalorian armor???

    by JMoe

    Yeah we need a stand alone Boba Fett movie . . . would be better than more Iron Man

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    I really hope RDJ doesn't get sick of the character.

    by fat_rancor_keeper

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    in tone with DARK KNIGHT RISES?

    by Stifler's Mom

    You mean murky, unsatisfying, and riddled with plot holes?? Nah, I doubt Marvel would mess with the perfect tone struck by IRON MAN 1 and AVENGERS, both of those movies blow DKR out of the water in terms of sheer wit and entertainment.

  • ...if not Iron Man 3, no Iron Man film will ever top the first Iron Man in my lifetime. RDJ gave flesh to the myth, and this will probably be his swan song. I hope it is at least better than TDKR, relative to the other two Iron Man's.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST


    by Eric Brown

    Reserving judgement until I see the actual trailer.

  • It's just the plot and action I'm worried about. And the suit. :(

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Some incarnations of the Mandarin does wear armor

    by Terrence

    Not like Iron Man armor, but just a suit that somewhat resembles the Chinese/Asian themed battle armor that was worn in ancient time.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Ben Kingsley in Armor? GMAB

    by sott68

    Thats so weak. The guy is a fine actor but now he is a bad ass? As dumb as a 75 lb woman kicking 275lb mens asses or believing that 2000 cops could live in the sewers for 5 months.

  • now everything has to all somber and moody

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Isn't the red, white, and blue Iron Man really Green Goblin underneath?

    by Mickster_Island

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    where is kubert memorial? aicn, the nbc of the intenet

    by walt

  • Can't be Osborn since SONY may still have the rights to said character. Oh wellz, there's always UMVC3.

  • Come on you don't have to have the Mandarin in armor. I'm just saying we saw the armor vs armor fights in the first 2. The Avengers shows that Tony can fight a villain outside of armor.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Still pumped to see this

    by Wcwlkr

    Even with my Mandarin armor complaint I'm still beyond pumped to see this!

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Mandarin should be able to turn into a giant dragon.

    by Mickster_Island

    Why not? Then they could play up the whole knight-in-armor thing.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST

    @Titus05 Exactly

    by Wcwlkr

    Look I don't want the Batman & Robin, Daredevil, Elektra days or anything. But come on Comic book movies can be fun like the COMICS themselves with some tweaks here and there as to not make them corny. It can be done as evidenced with the MARVEL films. Batman can be grim and gritty, but even by the 3rd you were like lighten the hell up a bit Nolan damn.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Seems legit.

    by Andrew

    First time contributor, and it's "highly, highly probable"? Uh huh. Sure it is.

  • Oddly enough, IM and Mandarin are probably a better fit for these plot arcs than Batman and Bane were.

  • Fin Fang Foom and wreak havoc all over China and USA? is this so hard to have a non-armored villain? jeez.

  • You guys are such fucking morons when you say shit like "TDKR was so full of plot holes and Marvel would NEVER sink to such a level." Oh really? REALLY? I seem to remember quite a few shitty fucking Marvel movies!!! Nolan did something different, that's a GOOD thing, don't fucking crucify people who do different shit! If you hate new thinking directors, then go see Total Recall and worship at the feet of Len Wiseman you dumb fucking hacks! The Avengers was a fun movie, YES, but it's not the fucking CITIZEn KANE you're all making it out to be, it has a weak villain, a lame Transformers ending, and too has "Plot holes." You know what, I don't give a fuck, it was still fun! SO WAS TDKR!!! Knock it off with that "Avengers is SO much better and it's story is flawless and Whedon is the greatest filmmaker in history and I wanna suck his cock!" FUCK OFF you peons!!!!

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Has there ever been a good third entry in a superhero series?

    by Mickster_Island

    DKR is arguable. Avengers sorta counts as IM's 3rd movie and that was pretty good.

  • So yes!

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Cyborg Hunter: Cold Steel looks intriguing, on ActionMax tonight

    by Clarence_Boddickers_Optometrist

    Let's see...starring Antonio Sabato Jr., Lisa Rinna,Richard Greico and Patrick Muldoon. No synopsis...directed by a T.K. Borgias. Hmmmm I'm not familiar.

  • Personally, I liked it as much as I was made furious by it. With a couple minor editing tweaks, it would be a great movie (ie, it would satisfy my personal standards) Besides those two movies though, I don't think there have been good 3rd entries. Spider-Man 3 Superman 3 Batman Forever even Star Trek 3 and Return of the Jedi are kinda crummy, in their own ways.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but...

    by Jonathan

    Iron Man might have gotten the shitty movie quota out of its systems already with IM2. >_<

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    TDKR was awesome, btw.

    by Jonathan

    The only problem I had was some of the shots/direction of the huge fight between the police and Bane's men. Some of that stuff was quite poor. But loved everything else.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4 p.m. CST

    TDKR was awful. Thank god Nolan left the series.

    by jack

    Now can WB please hire Paul Dini, Bruce Timm and a visionary director who LOVES comics and make the next Batman movie? is it that much to ask?

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST

    As I sit here naked, this news...

    by Scrunchie-Scroochie

    ...made my nuts scrunch up and expunge lashings of ropey white bollock sludge all over my tight sixpack stomach. Oh wait, no it didn't.

  • ...the guy is a master. Who'd of thunk Anthony Hopkins would give arguably the scariest performance of all-time before the Silence of the Lambs? Also, 'House of Sand and Fog,' although Kingsley doesn't play a villain, more a complex human being in a nasty situation, intensity abounds. As much as I would have liked to see someone of Chinese descent play the role, KINGSLEY WILL KILL IT.

  • Sorry, but your request has been denied by the Movie Gods. As a punishment, you will have to watch THE DARK KNIGHT RISES over and over again until your eyes are bleeding.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Even Iron Man 1 is very overrated

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Take Downey out of the equation and what do you have? It was a pretty average superhero movie in all respects save his performance. The villain is wasted, there are no particularly great action sequences, and too much of the film is padded with scenes of Tony tinkering in his garage (instead of a constantly moving and surprising narrative that drives the movie). It's a three star movie (out of five).

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST

    3rd movie

    by lead_sharp

    It's got a chance from all the good will of The Avengers AND the fact that the second movie is considered the weakest of all the MU movies so all it really has to do is be better than that. Not keen on the description though, that better be faked.

  • Knucklehead.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Soooo... Rocky 3?

    by jim loder

    Will the Chinese be rooting for Stark over the Mandarin by the climax of the movie? Oh, that's right, we're not allowed to have a Chinese Mandarin because that would be "racist", so now he's a 90yr old white dude.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST

    These flicks are taking themselves way too seriously

    by nephilim138

    Also, where's the Kubert obit?

  • were one of the best part in the whole movie but they are also quintessential for his character. It's like the have been taken from an 80s Iron Man comic. And despite its flaws, Iron Marn remains one of the best super-hero comic-book movies. Not only Favreau turned a 2nd tier comic-book super-hero character with limited fanbase, into one of the most beloved and successful movie super-heroes but he also set the ground for the whole Marvel cinematic universe which led to the massive success of the Avengers movie.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Mandarin gets armor now too, eh?

    by D.Vader

  • What a sad, sad world we live in.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Kingsley as Mandarin is a bit inspired

    by D.Vader

    I'm looking forward to that performance. I hope the script is there to match his intensity.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 4:43 p.m. CST

    creepy well written and thoughtful post, well done.

    by jack

    and you are probably right, RDJ is behind the failure of IM2 and it is not a coincidence that Shane Black was hired for IM3. But like you i have faith on Shane so i am hoping for a better sequel than the IM2 turd.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5 p.m. CST

    Is the Mandarin a fruit inspired villain?

    by jellypop

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Trailer description

    by jellypop

    Four wheels on a square frame complete with tow bar for coupling.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Mmm orange Julius man! Make it so.

    by UltraTron

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    I could make up a better description than this

    by ATARI

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST


    by 3D-Man

    This talkback is indicative of the sad, sad world we live in? Not random mass killings, natural disasters that wipe out thousands, and the pain and suffering of those unfortunate souls struggling with some form of disease? Thanks for enlightening us.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Harry is working on the Joe Kubert piece now

    by Russell

    Kubert was Harry's Godfather and i'm sure he is very distraught right now and in mourning. Give him time.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight spoiled future movies? It's a trailer.

    by Larry Sellers

    1) It's a description of a trailer that may not even exist or be released. 2) Trailers themselves can be edited to whatever tone the editor is told to convey. Easy example: The lighter trailers for TDKR. And that movie was anything but. 3) Try to remember allllll the way back to May. Remember that fun ensemble superhero flick? Yeah, Batman Begins really ruined that genre. 4) It's Shane Black. Gritty? I guess. Grim and humorless? Nope. 5) I'm just going to say what I usually say in trailer articles. The trailer is maybe 2 minutes long, comprised of 1-2 second excerpts from a 2+ hour film. Weigh your generalization against that and Marvel's tendency towards dark, humorless movies (there is no tendency, is my point).

  • Uh, yeah. That's not really Nolan's fault. That's the moron studio heads who LIKE that gritty realistic vibe Nolan did and want to incorporate that vibe into their franchises. And it NEVER works. THE REASON it works for Batman is because Batman is gritty in nature. A gritty feel does NOT work for most comic book characters because they are typically colorful and fun. This is why Marc Webb's "The Amazing Spider-Man" was such a colossal failure. It was too dark and gritty for a movie about a teenager with spider abilities fighting a lizard monster in NYC. Sam Raimi got that tone correct...Marc Webb, not so much.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST

    ... by mickster_island

    by Dilox Esp

    Aug 13, 2012 3:30:17 PM CDT Mandarin should be able to turn into a giant dragon. by mickster_island Why can't we get this type of simple originality going in Marvelwood? And why the fu.. would Stark be depressed anyhow? ...and by the way, a somber iron-man movie without the Tony acoholic storyline? And right after the drumk scene in IM2? This story should be building on IM2 and Avengers. By the time Avengers 2 rolls around, we should be seeing an intergalactic war as a primary plotline using characters that have grown since last time they met. How's that for Simple?!

  • What I was agreeing in regards to Nolan's Batman films. Is this new need to totally GROUND Super-hero movies in reality. When the facts are they're already so far beyond any possible reality. I just know the writer of Lethal Weapon, The Long Kiss Goodnight, and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Is going to have a gritty action packed and even hilarious movie for us to enjoy!

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST

    I want Godzilla to squish all these superweirdos!!

    by cameron

    Give me MONSTERS!!! Pacific Rim and Godzilla plz I've had enough of men in tights.. Roll on The Hobbit and Skyfall. Bilbo and Bond will save us from those flying faries :O

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST

    @neonfrisbee - A sad, sad world

    by Gabe Athouse

    You're sad we're curious about a movie about which we have genuine enthusiasm. Understandable. We're sad you're a fucking douchelord troll. Unfortunately, only you can do something about this, and this seems unlikely. Also sad.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST

    who cares?

    by D o o d

    not me!

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    It will be an 'Extremis' rewrite...

    by zinc_chameleon

    which is one of most humorless, dark web comics out there. Tony can't compete with the Mandarin unless he does the ultimate upgrade; that is, to use unteste nanotechnology to fuse his body to the Iron man suit. I'm sure it will take this tack, because Thor and his crew are going to explore the dark energy / sorcery thing, which Black and RDJ have stayed away from.

  • It's not like he's the friggin hulk or something.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 6:30 p.m. CST

    off topic but...Joe Kubert RIP. And fuck you, Harry for lack of obit.

    by BooBoosDaddy

    Joe Kubert passed away yesterday. Yet AICN has shown once again that you guys are fucking fuckheads. Where is his obit and retrospective?

  • OMG didnt see that one coming. -and its the very first scene of the trailer!

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 6:45 p.m. CST

    I just saw "Dark Knight Rises"

    by Beebop

    ....for the first time, at an IMAX theater (a REAL one, with the 70mm screen and everything). All I can say is, people who call it "awful" must be truly mentally deficient.

  • really? this is what passes for news now? this viral marketing? a description of an advertisement?

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Sir Ben Kingsly

    by Matthew

    maybe he is like Ra's Al Ghul in Begins and isn't really the Mandarin, the real Mandarin is like Henry Ducard and a Chinese guy like in the comics. I know this is a stupid comment

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 7:07 p.m. CST

    I'm a bit bummed to hear they're admiring Kingsley

    by smudgewhat

    I was hoping the introduction of magic via Thor and Avengers would push them further and have them go for mystic rings. Or something stranger than two armored guys CGI-ing each other to death. But otherwise I like what we're hearing about the tone of it and Tony carrying over the Avengers experience with some doubts. I'm ok with a darker Iron Man movie b/c Downey can go dark with conviction and it would be another twist.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    "admiring" should be "armor-ing". Fucking spellczech

    by smudgewhat

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 7:16 p.m. CST

    DKR ruined future movies?

    by seanpb

    Couldn't an argument be made that The Avengers will ruin future movies? Think about it. In the mind of the laymen, casual theatre goer, how do individual Marvel films possibly match the scale and stakes of the Avengers? How can a stand alone Iron Man, Thor, Captain America movie possibly carry the same weight when the only way they could beat a previous threat was to band together? If they can handle it on their own it's hardly as pressing or demanding a foe, is it?

  • I want all movies to be exactly the same. Schmucks.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Sounds awful

    by shutupfanboy

    I don't want to see Iron Man Rising. Let him have fun with it. Really hope they don't use this as the trailer. Also, what is wrong with IM2? Better villains, good action sequences and ton of Avengers lead in. Probably the same people that didn't like DKR.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 7:34 p.m. CST

    I think a Batman movie should be lighthearted family fun

    by Michael Katz

    Because then it would be true to the character

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 7:35 p.m. CST

    We had a Bruce Timm movie, it was called Mask of the Phantasm.

    by shutupfanboy

    And no one went to see it. Great movie, though, but it did nothing to get animated DC characters on the big screen.

  • Because movies like Spider-Man and Superman are so depressingly serious that I need a Zanax.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Take Downey out of the equation and what do you have?

    by dengreg31

    umm.. you can't do that because he's in the film.. he's the reason its a highly enjoyable movie.. God I hate skiplogic like this...

  • What a tale for the ages.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 8:12 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry but Mask of the Phantasm is overrated

    by Autodidact

    The story is decent, but it's basically "Full Circle", the follow-up to Batman Year One, with really bad animation.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST

    @ turd

    by nametaken

    take RDJ out of the iron man movie and you have nothing.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 8:20 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry but KISS Phantom of the Park was overrated

    by nametaken

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by adeceasedfan

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 8:47 p.m. CST

    I saw it in theatres just after Xmas in 1993. It's overrated!

    by Autodidact

  • Particularly how in the first film and the beginning of the second he was adamantly against giving the military or any governmment agency his tech just to be used for their own purposes, only to turn around and let Rhodes steal a suit and join a Blackwateresque private military faction (S.H.I.E.L.D.)? From what I've read, that red, white, and blue suit is actually the new "War Machine" suit. Which means the U.S. Military is using Tony's tech as blatent propoganda. Will Tony be against this? How is he and Rhodes still friends after what Rhodes has turned Tony's own private property into? Does Tony have any memory about how much like SHIT Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. has treated him; specifically, have they given him ANYTHING for, like, almost getting killed doing THEIR work for them defending the world from an alien invasion? Prediction: None of these questions will be answered.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Is this an IRON MAN³ trailer description ? YES !!

    by jazzdownunder

    The real question is, does it describe an actual trailer for an actual movie. An alternative IRON MAN³ trailer description might go something like this: 40ft long, kingsize bed in master suite, wooden cabinetry, flat screen TV, large mini-bar and "ROBERT DOWNEY JR" name plate on the door.

  • Heck, The Iron Giant was a bomb, and that one wasn't quite as boy-centric as a Batman movie. Even Disney attempts like Atlantis or Treasure Planet failed miserably at the box office. What about Titan A.E.? Movies like The Incredibles avoided that fate because computer animation is a completely different ballgame. People from all ages will go check anything Pixar or Dreamworks release.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Mask of the Orgasm was underrated

    by smudgewhat

    They pegged it as an R, but it was really an NC17.

  • And because the studio forced Bluth to turn every second scene into a music video for some of the worst music ever made.

  • and I'm there. Bitch could be the most annoying , condescending, self-important person in the entire planet, but she looks fucking amazing as Pepper Potts.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 9:32 p.m. CST


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  • Aug. 13, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST

    dr. evil plaigiarizes

    by vosborne951

    [Movies] Iron Man 3 Trailer Description Hits The Net (SPOILERS) Posted by Jeremy Thomas on 08.13.2012 See what the first trailer will be like… AICN has reportedly seen the trailer for Iron Man 3. The site has the following trailer description which, it is important to note, has not been confirmed by Disney. When asked about it the studio had no comment. The film stars Robert Downey Jr., Ben Kingsley and Gwyneth Paltrow and opens in May of next year. The trailer description is below: "It opens with a voice over of Tony Stark talking about how the events of New York (I'm assuming the Avenger Movie) changed him, and how he's just not 'into it' anymore. First scene is Iron Man with battle damage, laying down amid rubble and taking [off] his faceplate to show a bleeding Stark. Scenes of him arguing with Pepper Potts in the armory (cool shots of alternative Iron Man suits including the red white and blue one we've seen already), press conferences, Tony looking solemn, Tony talking with someone who looks like a psychiatrist, and a short shot of Don Cheadle in military uniform (no War Machine in the preview). Also one scene of who I presume is the Mandarin, forcefully landing and cracking the ground. However, it looked like a silver Iron Man. I was unable to tell in the brief view who it was (maybe due to unfinished CGI). We then get a voice over from Ben Kingsley, talking about how there there are no heroes and how he will teach everyone, especially Stark, a lesson. This is over scenes of the alternative Suits getting blown up, Stark going into surgery, and a fleet of helicopters launching missiles which blow Stark's home up and apart (the CGI looked nearly finished) and sending Stark and Pepper into the sea below. Then a close up of Kingsley with no helmet in the Mandarin armor. It ends with Iron man underwater swimming towards what looks like his 'heart reactor thing.' Then the logo, then Stark walking in the snow dragging a large bag, then the logo again. All and all, a somber trailer, dark and humorless, which seemed more in tone with The Dark Knight Rises than with any of the other Iron Man movies or the Avengers." Read more at

  • It's studio heads who think they know what people want and just mimic popular movies.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Also I think I get where they are coming from with Iron Man 3...

    by Andrew Coleman

    So after the Avengers Tony will be pretty puffed up ego wise. So have him meltdown personally. Have Iron Patriot come in and basically be a bad ass. Then Mandarin shows up and destroys him. Stark needs to step up and fight Mandarin and what not. I like this because otherwise it's just Iron Man running around again not giving a shit about anything.

  • Maybe in 20 years a reboot would work but not in the amount of time WB wants to do the reboot, like in two years. Fuck that shit. And a JLA film--FUCK THAT! And Man of Steel--it looks to good to be true just like Superman Returns. And we all know how that turned out. What's more, The Avengers is going to be the highlight of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Whedon won't be able to deliver a second time just like Favreau wasn't able to deliver a great sequel to Iron Man. And its a moot point anyway. TDKR just put the death nail in for comic book/superhero films. Iron Man 3 IS NOT going to bring in the same amount of boxoffice that TDKR did let alone The Avengers. This shit is done kids.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST

    did i imagine joe kubert passing away yesterday

    by jon pertwee

    and all this site has to offer today is a description of a fucking movie trailer?

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Could someone point me to a "I hate TDKR" site, please

    by deathbird

    I truly hate THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. This is my PHANTOM MENACE, and I need a proper outlet to vent my anger.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Mask of the Phantasm overrated?

    by Jobacca

    Quit sniffing glue and licking Nolans sack fanboys. MOTP didnt do well at the theaters because it had a limited run and was released Xmas day....I know because I blew off Xmas with the family to go see it. After it hit video,Siskel and Ebert reviewed it and said it was the best Batman movie ever made...and that still stands. Nolans trilogy never even came close to topping even the worst episode of the animated series. Bring on the reboot,and maybe this time put someone in charge who's actually READ a Batman comic-book and isnt ashamed of the character or the medium he comes from...or else we can see the continued adventures of John-Blake-Robin as Batman as played by the kid from Third Rock from the Sun...assuming he doesnt get tied up turning that Bike Messenger movie into a franchise.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Deathbird, stfu.

    by Smarty_Feldman

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Sounds more like IRON MAN RISES...

    by Lord Elric

    We'll see. it DOES have the Mandarin. But I'm not getting the bit where Stark isn't into it anymore. especially AFTER New York. Makes as much sense as Bruce Wayne retiring and letting his life spiral down.

  • Aug. 13, 2012, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Maybe Tony Stark gets hurt and recovers thanks to a magic rope?

    by Jobacca

    Or else he winds up back in the cave from the first movie,only this time it has clear-as-day satellite TV.

  • And he leaves Stark Tower and the Iron Man armor to some random cop he meets in the beginning of the film. And also...there are orphans. Sooooo many orphans.

  • And he leaves Stark Tower and the Iron Man armor to some random cop he meets in the beginning of the film. Also-there are orphans. Soooo many orphans.....

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 12:04 a.m. CST


    by mr teaspoon

    I'd never defend Iron Man 2 as a masterpiece, but I do think it gets shit on a bit too much. You said "Particularly how in the first film and the beginning of the second he was adamantly against giving the military or any governmment agency his tech just to be used for their own purposes, only to turn around and let Rhodes steal a suit and join a Blackwateresque private military faction (S.H.I.E.L.D.)?" Tony didn't LET Rhodey take anything - that's what stealing is. And it's Congress that is trying to steal Tony's armor, not SHIELD.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 12:05 a.m. CST

    also, please god make Downey sign for Avengers 2

    by mr teaspoon

    I think he will. I hope he will. Seems to genuinely care about and like the character, Marvel has all the money in the world and seems happy to hand it over to him.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST


    by yourSTEPDADDY

    my opinion is that im mad that everyone else liked ___ more than I

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST

    When did people stop liking ROTJ?

    by Rick Webb

    I thought I was cynical. Holy shit.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST


    by Larry Sellers


  • Aug. 14, 2012, 5 a.m. CST

    creepythinman Agree with your assessment, but

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    I'm still curious why, before the IM2 debuted, RDJ was giving all sorts of interviews insinuating that it was his worst experience filming ever, and he was extremely dissatisfied with the rush, and the production? He never directly named the movie, but it was obvious. Unless he'd seen early bits of it and was trying to distance/save face, or if he was tiring of the whole genre movie thing, thinking he'd go back to "respectable" drama?

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Hiring a white guy as Mandarin

    by Hipshot

    Isn't about not wishing to be "racist." What bullshit. It is the epitome of racism, the reluctance to give a non-white a substantive role. You think Dr. No, Fu Manchu, Mr. Moto, Chalie Chan, Kwai Chang Kane, Chuin, and so forth were about "being sensitive to racism"? What a huge, bleeding crock of shit. There are barely any roles for Asian actors, and when a good one comes up, they give it to Ben Kingsley. This is why, when a white character is recast as something else, I laugh at the fanboy whining.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Holy shit, Hipshot, Ben Kingsley is half-INDIAN

    by D.Vader

    He's half-Asian and he's playing a character who is Asian in the comics. He's as white as Barack Obama is. Please give this argument a rest.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Holy shit, Hipshot, Ben Kingsley is half-INDIAN

    by D.Vader

    He's a half-Asian man playing a character who was Asian in the comics. He's as white as Barack Obama is. Please give this argument a rest.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Damn you AICN for the double post.

    by D.Vader

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 7:13 a.m. CST

    There are really people who hated TDKR?

    by Orbots Commander

    Really? I thought the film was superb. From what I'm getting from the criticisms though, is, that some are rankled that Nolan's Batman isn't the comics version of Batman. And that's totally fine. How many artist/writer incarnations of Batman have there been in the comic anyway? Countless. What's the point of having a great director like Nolan on board if he's not going to offer up his own take on the character. If people just wanted the comics version, you could just have some furniture-mover-TV-director make a Batman film. It'd be terrible, of course, and closer to the Schumacher films.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 7:17 a.m. CST

    If anything, my next dream director for a Batman film:

    by Orbots Commander

    Jonathan Demme. It'd have the same somber, dark tone as Nolan's films, but Demme would have a different take on the characters, I think.

  • notice the difference?

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Spider-Man 2 a near masterpiece? hell no.

    by jack

    that movie is even more overrated than TDK.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 7:37 a.m. CST


    by nyjman8028

    Well said. It's possible to like both movies everyone.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 7:54 a.m. CST

    What's in the bag?" "What's in the bag?

    by StatelyWayneManor

    *Brad Pitt voice*

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Mandarin must not have witnessed Stark kicking

    by My best friend

    So much ass in the Avengers. He ought to build Stark a new house ASAP!!

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 8:15 a.m. CST

    BTW, I thought TDKR was better than TDK

    by My best friend

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Nah, not just this talkback, 3d-man.

    by NeonFrisbee

    I'm just adding it to the long list of sad things in addition to all the totally obvious stuff you childishly mentioned. (You're right! Mass murder is worse than a talkback! Congratulations for your keen deduction skills!) This talkback is more indicative of the sad state of current aesthetic values vis a vis -- obese middle aged virgins spooging all over themselves because of anecdotal reports about a motherfucking advertisement for what will no doubt be another big empty explosion of boring cgi and diminishing narrative returns.

  • Enjoy your commercials! I'm sure they more than compensate for the lonely, senseless vortex that is your very own Mother's Basement of the Soul.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Fin Fang Foom!

    by StatelyWayneManor

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Not "Into it" anymore? How is that possible for this character?

    by conspiracy

    Savior of the world, admired, loved and fawned over by billions; you just fought creatures from other parts of the galaxy, you are suddenly aware of alien races and all kinds of potential scientific discoveries...and you're fucking Pepper Potts and any other piece of ass you desire. Now explain how a character...a character whose primary traits are genius level intellect, hyper type A drive and an extreme case of narcissism could ever be not "into it" given those conditions? If this isn't a bogus report...if this is really where they are taking Iron Man...into psychiatric care and apathy...then Fuck this film...fuck it Serbian style.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Some guy with no cartilage left. Great. He's totally beat to s.

    by UltraTron

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST

    I agree. I love the TDKR happy ending for Bats.

    by smudgewhat

    Didn't see it coming. A pleasant surprise. I really thought they killed him. They successfully duped me.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST

    The ending to TDKR is fantastic

    by D.Vader

    They totally got me too.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Iron Man 3 isn't exciting to me at all

    by Cruizer Dave

    This is the downside of Avengers. Iron Man on his own will never live up to Avengers. Plus the second one sucked sour frog ass. As for TDKR, I thought it was good. I loved the ending, but it wasn't as solid as TDK. I felt like it needed more Batman, and that the eight-year gap was kinda unnecessary. However, Avengers had some things I didn't like as well. Overall, both films did great things for comic book cinema.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Don Murphy pwns teh suk.

    by Ben

    'Tis true, bitches. So sayeth the Man of Stool. My hibernation is over. I shall dodge harry's ban-hammer. Oh yeah, and FUCK HOSTEL! Because HOSTEL is still a thing, right? Right???

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Krishna Pandit Bhanji as the Mandarin?

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Shut up, cunt. You louse. You got some fuckin' neck ain't you. Retired? Fuck off, you're revolting. Look at your suntan, it's leather, it's like leather man, your skin. We could make a fucking suitcase out of you. Like a crocodile, fat crocodile, fat bastard. You look like fucking Idi Amin, you know what I mean? Stay here? You should be ashamed of yourself. Who do you think you are? King of the castle? Cock of the walk?

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Fucking wankstain AICN tb

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    I posted loads more than that, and thought I had avoided the dreaded quotation marks!! Anyway, watch Sexy Beast. Ben Kingsley is hands down the hardest cunt in a heist film starring Ray Winstone and Ian McShane.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST

    McWeenie got a hold of the Robocop reboot script


    And found it somewhat lacking. It sounds fucking atrocious. <p>

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 2:31 p.m. CST

    not a swan song

    by oisin5199

    Iron Man will be in Avengers 2. Guarantee it. But you really do need a villain in Iron Man 3 that will bring him down and make him really fight for his life at the core of who he is. Thus (hopefully) the Extremis idea, which forces Stark to take his fucked up biology to the next level. Of course, the comics storyline from a few years ago where Stark literally had to dumb himself down to survive, uploading parts of himself to an external hard drive in order to keep crucial info away from Osborn, would be an excellent one to adapt as that takes away all of what Stark is and forces him to rebuild from the ground up. And wasn't it Stark that first raised the question about what SHIELD was really doing in the Avengers movie? So not a 180.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Mandarin armor?

    by Yelsaeb

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Now THIS is the kinda TB I signed up for!

    by HongKongCavalier

    There's absolutely nothing funnier than reading posts explaining how a few tweaks here & there would've made a movie better ... the comedy gold of course is when they go into detail about what they would've done to make it better thanks for the consistent comedy goldmines!

  • Why does it annoy you that people might find this kind of news interesting? And you call ME childish? Bah.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 8:22 p.m. CST

    notcher: Avengers VS Dark Knight Rises

    by Aaron Cale

    Hundress of critics and hundreds of thousands of fans surveyed by Rotten Tomatoes would support the theory that, while both movies were well recieved, The Avengers is the more beloved of the two. You seem to take personal issue based on your preference for dark material, but the fact remains, MOST people would agree The Avengers is a better film. Although the two films attempted to reach different cinematic goals, MOST people would say The Avengers did a better job of surpassing them. I concur.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST

    DKR complaints

    by Aaron Cale

    While everyone is chiming in on DKR, and since some wanker is complaining about people who'd like to make their own adjustments to it, I think I'd like to do just that. How to turn DKR from a good/great movie into a near-perfect one: Do not comment on politics or the occupy movement: Batman has never been a platform for any type of politics... his brand of justice should appeal equally to either side of the aisle. Restore Bane's born-in-a-prison origin. Remove Bane's debilitating Darth Vader thing and make him addicted to a new, extreme performance enhancement drug (street-name: Venom). Seriously, why was this altered? It's something true to the comics that would easily fit into Nolan's realistic batverse. Restore Talia to her femme fatale glory. Even after Rachel Dawes' demise we are stuck with a regular looking girl in an underwhelming role. Talia should be drop-dead beautiful and her martial arts should be as deadly as Batman's or Ra's' (and on FULL display). Talia should not be Bane's love interest. Where did this come from? It should have at least been mentioned that Batman, having defeated Ra's, is the only worthy suitor for Talia. This is something central to the essence of her character's position in the Batman mythology. And, finally, insinuate that Batman was active during the 8-year gap, we just didn't see it on screen. The concept of Batman taking a vacation from crime betrays the essence of the character. It seems like a lot of stuff, but really these are minor and practical changes that would make this last Dark Knight film seem less of an out-of-left-field Elseworlds story and more of a definitive Batman experience. Perhaps I was just spoiled growing up on the terrific material in Batman: The Animated Series.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: Even after Rachel Dawes' demise we are stuck with a regular looking girl in an underwhelming role. Talia should be drop-dead beautiful... Uh, when it comes to Marion Cotillard, you clearly suffer from a lack of proper heterosexual instinct and observatory skill. Jackassery, sir.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST


    by Aaron Cale

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 9:22 p.m. CST

    mr. nice gaius

    by Aaron Cale

    Wow, I was so drunk I believed I was logging in while typing the subject line above... But in retort, I would qualify Cotillard as more of a half-step up from Holmes and Gyllenhaal. An improvement, sure, but not quite there...

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 10:28 p.m. CST

    couldn't they find a real Chinese guy for this?

    by chien_sale

    Instead of the "actor who plays all foreign baddies" root with Kinsley. Stupid Shane Black.

  • Aug. 14, 2012, 11:19 p.m. CST

    BATMAN '89 plays beautifully after TDKR

    by deathbird

    Seriously, after enduring Nolan's dour, pretentious, overplotted shitfest, take in the elegant simplicity, indelible dialogue, and breathtaking imagery offered up in Burton's criminally underrated BATMAN '89. Note that Keaton's Batman doesn't sound like a constipated Cookie Monster.

  • Aug. 15, 2012, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Batman 89 is blaaahh, The Dark Knight Rises is great.

    by UMAGA

    Doens't surprise me that people would rather talk about TDKR than ANOTHER god damn Marvel movie. The bulb is burning out on the Marvel universe. At least Nolan went out the way he wanted.

  • Aug. 15, 2012, 3:28 a.m. CST

    As tiresome as it's becoming the Iron Man villain has to wear armor.

    by ganymede3010

    He can't fight anyone who is purely flesh and bone unless they're highly adept magic users. With that being said, it's apparent that the Iron Man films prefers It's adversaries to mechanized in some sort of way.

  • That to me is the biggest indictment of the movie: The people who say they enjoyed it need to mount a defense to show why, as opposed to a movie like The Avengers. TDKR was good, but heavily flawed. It is the Prometheus of comic book movies.

  • Aug. 15, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Here's A Description of Someone Describing A Trailer

    by Buzz Maverik

    Movies are news. Trailers are advertising. Descriptions of advertising are ... get a grip, AICN.