Aug. 6, 2012, 1:23 p.m. CST
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Aug. 6, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
Ha! Got to love Carpenter's honesty. Man don't give a fuck.
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
Still holds up to this day. I rewatch it at least once a year. Great movie.
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST
by No Respectable Gentleman
THE THING was on the cover, sure, but as far as I remember the whole tone was adulatory. I don't remember science fiction fans hating the movie either. There was a lot of love for the flick ... just not at the box office.
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST
by The PimpDragon
It is rather peerless. The only film I've ever thought was better or at least equal to is the original Alien. Both films have great characters who seem like real people. They take the "haunted house" idea and make it work (in a freighter in deep space, you can't simply escape; in the middle of Antarctica you can't simply escape). They create a complete world within the frames of the camera and are very good at establishing the claustrophobia and horror of the situation and making it very relatable as a viewer. Plus, they each have standard-setting chest-related setpieces that still have the power to make you squirm! The Thing is truly an awesome film and, arguably, Carpenter's best overall work. Nice interview, Capone!
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST
by Bouncy X
had no clue the jump to the ceiling was a reverse shot. it does explain how perfectly he lands on the ceiling though but it never crossed my mind thats how it was done. just figured it was a nice and perfect take. lol
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
. Best horror/sci fi - The Thing. Best ending ever - Escape from NY Best Horror - Halloween Aweseome moment - christine rebuilding herself Best crazy-ass movie ever - Big Trouble in Little China. Best alley-fight-over-glasses - They Live. Im sooooo bummed i wont be able to make it to the convention this weekend. Capone and/or someone who is going...do me a favor...google 'fan created alternate They Live dvd cover' and show it to Carpenter this weekend...its genius...i think they should have marketed the blu with a free pair of sunglasses that, when worn, would change the cover art to the alt-fan-art. John Carpenter is an amazing director. One of my favorites (actually he IS my favorite). Thanks for sharing the interview. Peace .n. Im all out of bubblegum 3ToF.
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
Not so much generic studio stories that we've all heard a million times by a thousand different directors. Then again, maybe he has talked at length about the ending and I just missed it, and I'm the typical asshole AICN TBer. I guess I'd like an interviewer one day to play that youtube guy's interpretation of all the events and let JC comment on each 'event' one at a time. That bit about the matte painting guy was intriguing though. I remember JC talking about it quite a bit during the DVDs commentary.
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST
freaking genius http://www.horroryearbook.com/5427003/they-live-collectors-edition
Aug. 6, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST
I've only actually seen him in High Anxiety, but he didn't look like a little arrogant British guy.
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST
by Raptor Jesus
Christ, it was just unwatchable.
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST
That popped up months ago about Keith David's character being infected. An interesting little theory that was shot down by Carpenter himself on twitter.
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST
Really enjoyed it. Great movie. Don't think I ever heard anyone shit on it.
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST
I think it had to do with comparing Mac dumping his scotch into the computer ("cheating bitch") when it beat him at chess, and when he offers Child's the scotch at the end. And in the script, it's written that Mac has a flamethrower ready to to go under his jacket. Something to that effect. I'll see if I can dig up the youtube vid.
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST
by Mr. Giant
Sound like the fans who go apeshit today over "torture porn." It's like if you hit that nerve, people can't take it. Do it well or do it poorly, and you'll get shit on for it.
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST
The real ending stuff starts at about 2:55. http://youtu.be/bgRWMbGSUec
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST
I've met him a few times, and he is one of the most honest people in the business. I personally think that The Thing is his best film, followed by They Live, and Big Trouble in Little China.
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST
That said, I'm shocked about any negative reactions to The Thing as it was and still is one of my all time Horror films as EFNY is my personal favorite Sci Fi flick. They live was the more interesting anti Reagan sentiment i have seen in a Movie and props to carp for having the courage of conviction for making his sentiment toward the Administration so obvious. And as Asi once pointed out, EFLA's President (Played so well courtesy of Cliff Robertson) was a amusingyet unitentional Parody of Bush even before he became the President of the United States. Despite never reaching the acclaim that his old protogege Cameron has, Carpenter is still Legendary and willing to take chances with a few genres. from Elvis to Big Trouble in Little China his previous works shall never be forgotten. Thanks John, now if you can only do one more sequel to Escape but this time, don't self lampoon like you did with EFLA.
Aug. 6, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
For me, when he started doing generic "hard rock" soundtracks, as opposed to creepy electronic ones is when the quality started to wane. Compare and contrast the themes for EFNY and EFLA for proof. However, the exception to the rule is "In the Mouth of Madness" which is greatest Lovecraft adaption that has nothing to do with Lovecraft...
Aug. 6, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST
by Samuel Fulmer
Because I sort of think the same with Argento. Even though Opera had it moments, it was sort of the end of his film making powers, and it had that silly death metal music in it.
Aug. 6, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
by Samuel Fulmer
You brought the A game this time.
Aug. 6, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
What nis a perfect mopvie for me? One in wish i can't imagine any way it could make it better. If that is not a definition of perfection, then i don't know what is. THE THING is a movie i love to revisit from time to time. sometimes i also listen to the audio comentary by Carpenter and Kurt Russell It is one of the best and funniest comentary tracks i ever heard in my life on a DVD. Also very informative of the making of the movie and also of their friendship. THE THING, what a winner of a movie. I first saw it in the late 80s on VHS, and i was hooked right from the opening credits. The rest was all pure movie magic. Pure movie magic is a good way to describe this movie. To the end of my days i'll never understand why the movie got such a shellacking back when it was released. Maybe it was because those were the Reagan Years, when everybody was crazy. Only mass madness can explain why this fine movie was not a massive commercial sucess . In a perfect and just universe, this movie (and BLADE RUNNER) would had ET for breakfast. But we don't live in a just universe, alas. It's great to know that time has been kind to THE THING, however, and that it's now heralded as the great classic that it truly is. Yeah, i love, love THE THING, unashamedly so, as it should. And if anybody hates this movie, sucks to be you.
Aug. 6, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST
Hi mate. Thanks for the reference and remembering something i wrote so long ago. Props and kudos. I'm flatered. Carpenter is a legend, pure ans simple. If he never makes another movie ever gain, it will not be a problem. He already gave us many cinematic jewels, more then most filmmakers can boast. a list of his movie's career is like a listing of classics. DARK STAR, ASSAULT ON PRECINT 13, HALLOWEEN, THE FOG, THE THING, CHRISTINE, IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS, THEY LIVE, PRINCE OF DARKNESS. most filmmakers out there would love to boast ONE such movie in their CVs, Carpenter have them all. The man owns nobody nothing anymore, as far i'm concerned. He has payed his dues a long time ago, i can't demand nothing from him. And his latest movie, THE WARD, was pretty nice and quite entertaining too. I quite enjoyed it. It was like a version of SUCKER PUNCH but made by somebody with an actual functioning brain. It laso had quite an interesting female cast. You can't go wrong with Amber Heard and Lyndsey Fonseca (the later is of portuguese descendency), can you?
Aug. 6, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST
Normally when I mention my theory people either look at me with incredulity or laugh, however I think it's pretty valid. I've got nothing against metal in it's many forms, but if it appears on a horror soundtrack and is irrelevant to plot (which is where "Big Trouble..." gets a free pass given it makes sense with Jack being a trucker), to me it just screams "marketing ploy!", and cheapens the art of the movie.
Aug. 6, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST
. its an interesting interpretation. For me the ending is just one of the zillion things about the movie that make it awesome. I LOVE the fact that he doesnt tell us if either of them are infected. I love the open ending. Its a ballsy move to not provide a nice clean resolution at the end of a flick...one that probably pisses off countless viewers...but one that leads more to the movie going experience and discussion/interpretation of movies. Christopher Nolan did this nicely with (spoilers) Inception with the spinning top ambiguous ending. I firmly believe that he would have ended Dark Knight Rises (SPOILERS!) on the shot of alfred looking at the camera...which would have left batmans survival open for interpretation, however it was too mainstream of a movie to leave any ambiguity.
Aug. 6, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST
after sitting through TDKR's on sat, my back was killing me, as usual. so my cure, triple feature of carpenter & russell commentary special. escapeNY, big trouble, & topping it off with the thing. those two sitting & shooting the shit just absolutely makes you feel like you're sitting in the room with them. you can tell they are TRUE friends & colleagues. sooo entertaining! (I listen to EVERY commentary track on every flic I watch). I've listened to these 3 commentaries many times, they NEVER get old. for those of you that don't take the time for commentaries, I highly suggest these. cheers Capone! p.s mr. carpenter, please stop smoking, we need you around for many more years!
Aug. 6, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST
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Aug. 6, 2012, 4:50 p.m. CST
by david starling
In fact its stupidly criminal. Forget some of those other directors out there full of pomposity about their movies, John Carpenter made genre flicks for his audience, and he knew who his audience was. No pretention, no sellout, you knew what you were getting - and yet, even then he surprized you. Yes, he may have floundered in recent years (I will make exceptions for Vampires, but Ghosts of Mars was shambolic - haven't seen The Ward yet though) but dammit, when you have as many classics sitting there as he has, I think you're allowed one or two bad movies!! I'd love to see a special Blu-Ray of Prince of Darkness (I love that movie!!), but I'm equally thrilled in the knowledge that They Live is coming out soon in a special edition!!
Aug. 6, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST
Somebody needs to ask him that at the Q&A. He always talks about how they were one of his favorite genres. And while they were definitely on the way out when he started directing, they've never gone away completely. They were still making Westerns in the 80's and 90's, when Carpenter was still somewhat bankable. Obviously his friend and colleague Kurt Russell made one of the more memorable ones of that era with TOMBSTONE. Did Carpenter ever TRY to get a Western together? Every few years someone tries to bring them back.
Aug. 6, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST
That story has been told, but for those who don't know it, goes like this... The original director of Tombstone dropped out for whatever reason and Kurt Russell stepped in as the standby director to keep the film alive so the studio wouldn't pull the plug. The rest of the cast supported Kurt and they kept the movie alive and in production. Kurt personally asked John Carpenter to come in and finish the movie and John almost said yes. It's not clear what ultimately led to Carpenter passing on the deal, but they brought in George Cosmatos instead. All turned out well in the end.
Aug. 6, 2012, 6:02 p.m. CST
The original writer/director of Tombstone was the late Kevin Jarre (writer of The Mummy, Rambo II, Glory, etc...) He was apparently fired from the film by the studio. One crew member wrote the following message on Jarre's IMDB board... 'And I can add conclusively that Kurt Russell did NOT direct a single shot on Tombstone. I worked on the set from mid-may until production finished on Sept. 2nd of 1993. I am shocked that Russell has put this rumor out there and I can assure you he could not back up the claim from anyone who worked in production. Jarre was fired because he failed to give the editors usable footage. He was essentially attempting to shoot it 'low angle' with a lot of wide shots, like John Ford. He had us running all over the desert reshooting scenes that he'd neglected to pick up when he had ample chance to do so. The 2-3 weeks he worked on the film were the most physically and mentally difficult period of my entire life.' We may never know if this is true or what really happened, but if Kevin Jarre, Kurt Russell and George P. Cosmatos all contributed to what is now the finished product called TOMBSTONE... then I guess they did a good job because it's a pretty good flick. It was a great script and that credit goes to Kevin Jarre. I'm sure Carpenter would have done a fine job as well, but that's the story anyway.
Aug. 6, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST
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Aug. 6, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST
that MacReady's Hat would be a great name for a band.
Aug. 6, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST
And whoever said They Live sucks. Die.
Aug. 6, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST
Your enthusiastic post made me Lol and I wholeheartingly agree.
Aug. 6, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST
If you are using the remake/prequel to answer questions about JC's The Thing.... go ahead and hang your head in shame.
Aug. 6, 2012, 7:18 p.m. CST
Carpenter himself told the story in LA for the 25 year anniversary at The Egyptian. That was an epic showing!
Aug. 6, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST
"Once I thought of the final shot [of TDKR], I knew I wanted to make the movie." The actual final shot is nice, but your idea would be a lot more powerful. I wonder if that was the shot he first thought of?
Aug. 6, 2012, 8:18 p.m. CST
Aug. 6, 2012, 8:43 p.m. CST
Man, between Carpenter and DePalma, being a kid in the 80's was a good time to be alive.
Aug. 6, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST
by rakesh patel
not his best work. and for the life of me i cant understand why the fuck jamie lee curtis was in that movie. i mean ok, she has a one night stand , but god damm it, after a wone night stand you leave, dont hang around to go on a fishing boat and finding a dead body and then hang out in the morgue. what the fuck?!?! I kept thinking, maybe tom atkins should now kinda say. hey, you know that was fun yeah,, but get the fuck out and hitch hike your ass outta here! A minor blip on his resume. the thing was superb. And they life resonates with even more with me today then it did when i first saw it. Nice interview Capone.
Aug. 6, 2012, 9:01 p.m. CST
during its opening week. About 15 min. into the movie an usher calls out in the theater: Does anyone here drive and blue and white suburban, license #......? That was my car! I went out and a woman had run into it in the parking lot! Ripped off my back bumper. I could live with that, but damn I missed part of the movie. Naturally, I saw it a couple of more times that week.
Aug. 6, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST
... even as a kid I could sense that the basic plot and characters didn't quite compel and grip like those in Carpenter's other movies from Halloween to Escape from New York. There could be a number of reasons for this. It's a difficult thing to pinpoint. I think people sensed this, and it was definitely compared to 1979's ALIEN unfavorably at the time of release. Of course, these days it seems just fine. And the effects were real ART. Truly a game changer that is influential through movies today.
Aug. 6, 2012, 9:35 p.m. CST
a room full of scientists get in over there heads, meet forces they had not even ever dreamed of and their hubris hobbles them and leaves them open to the unimaginable terror ahead of them. That said, I really love the chaotic free-for-all that "Prince of Darkness" is and feel that it tells that story best (and with a lot cheaper effects).
Aug. 6, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST
Some interesting stuff. He really doesn't seem to want to "work" anymore, or do much that requires effort. Also had some stuff to say about Roth, Aronofsky and Cronenberg. Worth checking out. Once you start there, plenty of other Carpenter interviews on YT to keep you busy...
Aug. 6, 2012, 10 p.m. CST
Crazy homage to Lovecraft...Sam Neil in that closing shot - WHOOO boy. LOVE it Also a fan of the usual Carpenter stuff: The Thing is a masterpiece, Halloween, Escape from New York, and Starman (he directed Jeff Bridges to an Oscar nom)
Aug. 6, 2012, 11:22 p.m. CST
by illegal alien vs sexual predator
Ghosts of Mars was shooting in a gypsum mine near my house in Jemez Springs,NM and everyday going to and from work I'd pass numerous location signs with G.O.M. stenciled on them. I was so excited Carpenter was was filming his new movie in my hood that I would try to psych myself into stealing a sign. When I finally did, a cop pulled up behind me after getting into my car and took my license and registration. He didnt notice the sign in the front seat but did notice that I failed to pay a fine months back and hauled my ass to jail for the night and impounded my car! To make matters worse Ghosts of Mars sucked.
Aug. 6, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST
Aug. 7, 2012, 12:16 a.m. CST
Santa Claus the Movie.<p> Wrote a darker version of the myths that had been saccharine by time much like the original Grimm tales.<p> Much as I like the Polish guys interpretation, this seems like cinematic gold that never was. Imagine, John Carpenter's Christmas movie.....1985 style.
Aug. 7, 2012, 12:20 a.m. CST
Damn autocorrect.<p> I notice he tactfully sidestepped Capone's quote about remakes being a strange violation of sorts. <p> The remakes of Fog, Thing and especially that overrated, overhyped piece of shit from the rock star formerly known as Gen. Robert Cummings masquerading as a legitimate filmmaker are all textbook examples of what NOT to do when referencing the original source material.<p> But I digress.....
Aug. 7, 2012, 1:05 a.m. CST
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Aug. 7, 2012, 1:08 a.m. CST
Check out the above mentioned John Carpenter Choice Cuts interview at the 12 minute mark where he throws his head back and rolls his eyes when asked about the current crop of Halloween movies and what the Akkads have done to the franchise.<p> Still think he gave Rob Zombie his blessing little boy.<p> We'll replace the SCHWING with a pwned.
Aug. 7, 2012, 1:13 a.m. CST
Might have been a review in a non-THE THING issue. I also have the Fangoria's which cover THE THING - that quote isn't in those, either. Both Cinefantastique and Fangoria covered the FX work extensively and, really, that's what we were most interested in at the time. The Cinefantastique on THE THING is a real gem with many storyboards...their SFX/VFX journalism in the early years rivaled Cinefex.
Aug. 7, 2012, 7:57 a.m. CST
Thanks for the rec, awesome interview. I honestly don't think most people who've never tried to make a feature (hell, even a short) or written a feature length script, or several, know or understand how much it takes out of you. Hell, any creative endeavor that you actually complete... and to do it the way he did it for as long as he did with that kind of run just fucking destroyed him. I don't think it was a Coppola thing, where one movie broke him, I think he just got worn out over time and the fight left him. I honestly can't say I blame him... cause if he were turning out one piece of shit that sullied his name after another, everyone would be saying, "Call it quits, already!" Instead, everyone is like, "Do you have ONE more in you? Come on, keep going, don't you wanna keep directing?" I admire him for just being like, 'FUCK NO, I wanna play XBOX.' Unlike most people, he's earned it. However, I DO think sometimes that he doesn't realize or fights his own legacy. But at the same time, he's willing to say, "Yeah, most movies today are corporate shit." It reminds me of John Lennon... shit all over the Beatles throughout the 70's but woe betide anyone else who questioned their legacy. Myself, I think it's kind of a protective reaction rooted in the fear of getting hurt in some way. Or it can be that you're in another place and are just sick to death of discussing it and it's a way of dealing with that. Being a cranky old fuck about the stuff you once did that everyone loves. I get it, though. One other thing I wanted to say - I don't think Halloween gets nearly enough love. That movie is so fucking awesome that I can't believe it's mentioned as if it's on the same level as The Fog or other works of his, when I think, as a piece of pop culture mythology, it goes way past The Thing, even if the film itself doesn't surpass it. I don't know, man... John Carpenter just had one of those magical, inexplicable runs and you can see it in those old BTS videos on youtube on The Thing. Anytime you're seeing an artist at the peak of their powers in the thick of it, they ALL have sort of the same demeanor: quiet knowingness. I guess it's 'The Zone', they know their shit, they know they know their shit, and they're almost meditative about it. The first time I ever noticed it was watching something on Michael Jackson during Thriller and then I noticed it with George Lucas on the set of Raiders and Empire, Coppola on Godfather 2, The Beatles during Sgt. Pepper and The White Album (though that was also drugs) and DEFINITELY Carpenter on The Thing. See, he's fucking up there man and I don't know how much he realizes it.
Aug. 7, 2012, 8:30 a.m. CST
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Aug. 7, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST
Aug. 7, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST
Ha-ha. Don't mention it as I remeber quite a few of your (In)famous posts/quotes which I concur with. One being that JC has this Punk ass attitude (Punk as in rebellious toward the Hollywood "establishment") when making his movies and not neccesarly comprimising. I haven't seen the Ward yet, but i take your word that it can't be worse than Snyder's Sucker Punch. It's unfortunate that the prick Mods banned you just for being honest as oppossed to being some kind of lemming that agrees with everything and everyone else. It's OK to be somewhat of a contrairian and have your own opinion regardless of who agrees or not. What's your take on Nolan's final chapter of the Batman opus? The reviews/opinions form amny were a bit polarizing.However, I enjoyed the Film immensely despite a few minor flaws. Anyway, don't let the fuckers discourage you from coming onto the Talkbacks as i have seen far negative comments from Tbers who have yet to receive the Ban-Hammer. to quote Snake as he slaps Surfer dude peter Fonda five, (EFLA) "Later"!
Aug. 7, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST
Aug. 7, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST
when I wrote that last post. I was kind of like, "I didn't see him mention Aronofsky yet, maybe I missed something." Then I saw the end, about those 'horror dinners' or whatever the fuck and holy shit... I can't believe he said that about Cronenberg, Aronofsky, and Roth (his Hollywood hair!). Wow... I loved him before, but now Carpenter is my hero for life.
Aug. 7, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST
LMMFAO@ Russel's testimonial quote; "If you think he's just some little White guy who you can walk over, think again". No doubt, he's one of my favorite Directors thanks to more original high concept thrillers and not to mention that his works were often duplicated. director-writer-producer-composer yeah some of you guys can call Cameron King, but JC's a fucking legend!
Aug. 7, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST
You were banned? For what?
Aug. 7, 2012, 12:03 p.m. CST
I believe, though i have no prove to back it up, that i got banned because i pissed too much on Team Abrams' parade in here. A big no-no.
Aug. 7, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST
I loved THE DARK KNIGHT RISES to bits. I see no minor flaws in it, all i see is exquite and smart filmmaking on all departments, from acting to script to the technical side, the whole lot. In Capone's review of TOTAL RECALL i posted my thoughs on the movie (in my usual broken english), so if you can be bothered with, you can check it out if you will. I think that TDKR is a fantastic final chapter to Nolan's THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY. And Harry's review of the movie has to be one of the most baffling things i ever read from him. It's as if he hadn't actually seen the movie, or was so distracted he missed out all the things that explain or justify the things he thinks the movie is at fault with.
Aug. 7, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST
Just go to such countries like UK, France and Germany and wait for the answer. In those countries, specially France, Carpenter is a God. Not just a respected filmmaker, but a GOD.
Aug. 7, 2012, 1:18 p.m. CST
I must have missed that one... would be really interested to see/hear that one.
Aug. 7, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST
...Bruce was informed by his Psysician, that he has lost cartiledge in his knee and was forced to equip himself with some mechanical leg brace. Now after bane defeats him and sends him off into some Gulag, how the hell did Wayne manage to climb out of that Hole/prison pit since he has been stripped of the Knee brace? doing push ups is one thing, but being able to run and stand straight is totally unusual. Did i miss something?!? Also the slugfest between bats and bane came off a bit like some streetfight and we all know that Batman is capable of various martial arts Moves and not just some guy trading punches. bane getting killed off that way was unexpected and should have been done much better. After bats defeats him, Bane stubbornly tries something devious like pulling out some hidden weapon only then to be blasted by catwoman. wether or not you agree, i think there should have been a better way to close bane's chapter. However, I rate TDKR as my second favorite movie. (Guess which earned top praise?) Great plot wists, character development and closure more than made it clear that Nolan knocked this one out the park. (i was the very first to applaud as the credits began to roll.) Still have no fucking clue what Harry was bitching about other than his slefish sense of Geek entitlement. but he's in the minority on this one.
Aug. 7, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
I can't say I "hate" TDKR, but it was waaay too long and kind of rambled on. I liked elements of it, but it had no sense of pace and had it's fair share of plot issues.
Aug. 7, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST
Google what fliphole36 said, "Choice Cuts Carpenter Inteview", or just search it on youtube. It's about 25 minutes long and very laid back, but he's pretty open about everything, as usual. Asi: I think I've always been united in my hatred of Abrams with you, though I did like some things about Super 8 and I must confess, I didn't hate his ST as much the first time as I did on further viewings. His may just be the most empty cinema of all... it's worse than cotton candy. I can't believe the nepotistic little 'magic mystery box' douche and his minions regularly gets a pass while people will bitch about TDKR and District 9. I posted something that you might appreciate in the talkback about Lindelof being off of the Prometheus sequel. It goes directly back to Abrams 'magic box' bullshit and I think the problem itself has its roots in everything he's ever done, including the marketing campaign for Cloverfield. The title was, "Let's stop being clever in movies..." by that, I mean this FUCKING RIDICULOUS OBSESSION with not only trying to stay one step ahead of the audience, but to have multiple 'turns' in a movie where everything needs to be a revelation or flipped on its head or call into question everything else you've seen prior? What happened to just building to a satisfying climax and enjoying time spent with great characters testing themselves along the way? (i.e. - Jaws, Die Hard, Raiders... fucking ALIEN anyone?!). I mean, Close Encounters doesn't end with the humans who made humans getting out of the ship. It would be fucking silly and stupid and would be EXACTLY what they'd worry about today, rather than, you know, making Roy and Lacombe and the rest great and satisfying characters BEFORE you worry about coming up with some revelatory ending. The ending of Jaws would be that it was all a video game or a dream or purgatory or some other fucking bullshit... what happened to just testing your limits, throwing Hanz out a fucking window and blowing the shark up? What happened to the Ark opens up and kills everyone except our heros? We love it because we've been dealing with the evil fucking Nazi's and the french asshole for two hours and it's great to see them get their comeuppance. What's in the Ark never really mattered in order for the movie to be satisfying. Sure, the Ark puts on a great show, but nothing about what's inside tells us anything we didn't already know or were aware of. Because what makes the movie great are the GREAT, WELL ACTED PARTS. If Lindeloff, or Orci, or Abrams made the movie, it would all have to turn in on itself like a pretzel, violating everything that's come before, make no sense at all, and all just to get one dumb fuck in the audience to go, "Whoooooooa...." for a MILLISECOND before they leave the theater and start thinking about how what they just saw doesn't add up or make ANY FUCKING SENSE. Ok, rant over.
Aug. 7, 2012, 2:33 p.m. CST
I give Nolan credit for trying to shoehorn as much plot arcs as possible without making TDKR a total mess. What I liked is how the Movie focused on the Man behind the Cowl which gave us further insight of Wayne's stuggles and vulnerabilities. I liked the little plot twist involving Bane's "origin" and the Bomb plot came off as your typical MCGuffin Device scenario but it was significant to the last few Minutes of the Film. people often griped on how in the hell could bruce could have survived that blast, and in turn all I can say is..."he's fucking Batman, dammit"!! it's a trivial response but it's also self explanitory. (especially to those who are aware of Bats' background.) By no means is TDKR bad especially compared to other third acts like Spiderman,X-men and Star wars. (Return of the jedi needed serious tweaks IMO.) Harry was just nitpicking due to his unsupassed expectations.
Aug. 7, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST
bane getting killed off that way was unexpected and should have been done much better
Aug. 7, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST
Aug. 8, 2012, 6:42 a.m. CST
Hery, a fellow Brit! For some reason I always presume everyone on here but me is in the States! Hope you manage to score a copy, bud :)
Aug. 9, 2012, 4:48 a.m. CST
Guys I love all of Carpenter's stuff pre-1988. But this love for him that everyone gives without calling him out on a career that just plunged needs to be addressed. He had a great run from 1976 - 1988 and then he just fell into the pit. Even if we give In The Mouth Of Madness a pass <and I am not a big fan of it>. Look at all of his shit! MEMOIRS OF AN INVISIBLE MAN - Awful BODY BAGS - Carpenter's lame attempt at ripping off Tales From The Crypt IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS - Gets a pass VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED - Good, shitty film at the time. But watch it now and it looks like a SyFy Channel film. ESCAPE FROM LA - A fucking embarassment. A Xeroxed copy of the original with some White Out used. Not one piece of originality in it. I was told by several who worked on the film that Carpenter was falling asleep every night working on the set. It shows because this film was a pure act of laziness. Only props go to Kurt Russell for committing career suicide for his friend VAMPIRES - Good James Woods wasted in a shitty fucking vampire film GHOSTS OF MARS - Seriously, what the fuck was this film? It reminds me of a guy like Landis. A great run and then you get Beverly Hills Cop III, The Stupids and Blues Brothers 2000 and has never recovered. The other thing that bothers me is him pissing on Albert Whitlock and the memory of him like that. The man was a legendary artist and he was old school. You had to have tea with him. Big fucking deal. Carpenter was probably pissed off that he had to stop smoking for 30 minutes. Talk about an addict. Ever listen to his commentaries? His lighter is going off every 10-15 mins.
Aug. 10, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST
by Quake II
Carpenter notoriously doesn't give a fuck about his own movies and will gladly let you remake any of his films for a bottle of whisky and a producer credit. The Thing, Halloween, The Fog and Assault On Precinct 13 are all fantastic movies remade into shitty films. Just waiting for the sure to be terrible Escape From New York remake.......
Aug. 10, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST
As for the Carp, why doesn't he do a real western?! And stop comparing/blaming E.T. for The Thing's failure. Two different beasts at work, differently and beautifully in their own styles.
Aug. 10, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST