Aug. 6, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST
Sounds like a cool event. When are we going to finally have a decent Cthulhu movie made though?
Aug. 6, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST
by Yukon Cornelius
HPLHS' "Call of Cthulhu" is, despite its minsicule budget and cardboard & duct tape homebrew spfx probably the most faithful Lovecraft adaptation to date and will probably remain the contender as best Lovecraft film for the indefinite future, unless Del Toro ever gets the complete artistic control and huge budget to finally make his version of "At the Mountains of Madness", with or without James Cameron's financial backing and Tom Cruise's star power. And as much as I want to see a well made, big budget Lovecraft adapatation, I worry that the once unique elements that have been borrowed/stolen by other sci-fi horror films in the past several decades (ie, the Thing From Another World, John Carpenter's The Thing, The Thing prequel/remake, The Thing 2018, etc.) may fail to win over the mainstream movie going audience unfamiliar with the original Lovecraft mythos who may see it as a copycat wannabe (for a recent pulp example, see: Carter, John and various assertions that it "ripped off" several scenes from the Star Wars prequels).
Aug. 6, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST
...that Lovecraft is difficult to translate to film. But I think Whisperer is at least as good as Call of Cthulu, with better effects and that crazy talkie technology going on. I'd love to see on projected in a theater. Lucky Chicago!
Aug. 6, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST
Was pleasantly surprised at the faithful adaption of the material and decent acting of the main characters. Wonderful sets and props. A real throwback film that I'm proud to have in my collections.
Aug. 6, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST
...Lovecraft material itself is. It's not just that conceptual horror that remains "off screen" is central even in his stories. It's also the stories themselves and how they are told, often assembled from various sources (like Call of Cthulu) or even without real main characters. I think Whisperer is one of the more linear Lovecraft stories with a single protagonist that goes through events that qualify as adventure and suspense. Shadow over Innsmouth is another.
Aug. 6, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST
...just has a Lovecraftian element or two. Easier to steal than to adapt his stuff whole hog.
Aug. 6, 2012, 7:25 p.m. CST
It's a movie with a tiny budget, but they GET IT. I preordered the DVD of this, and it's a winner. If you can make it, buy a ticket. This kind of thing needs to be rewarded.
Aug. 6, 2012, 11:06 p.m. CST
I'm curious about the sexual subtext you see in HPL's work. He had a horror of sex. Unless you mean that the fastidious avoidance of anything sexual is itself a sexual subtext? In my view, Geiger's interest in biomechanical sex/rape thing would be HPL's own worst nightmare! The sex between Ripley and Dallas in early scripts, very un-HPL. And, not to pick at you, but the remorseless inhumanity is Lovecraftian on a smaller scale, but usually "Lovecraftian" implies the sort of large-scale uncaring universe, that humanity is a pimple on the ass of the universe about to be annihilated in toto. In that sense, Prometheus is more Lovecraftian than Alien. I don't see Alien as an essentially Lovecraftian movie -- more of a traditional slasher kind of horror with a Lovecraftian monster. And, of course, some Lovecraftian backstory to it, the derelict ship being very HPL...all right, a couple of sizable elements. Your view is not invalid. Carry on.
Aug. 7, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST
I have an idea for you... read a Lovecraft story or two before you start making nonsense.
Aug. 7, 2012, 10 a.m. CST
I see your points about Alien and the derelict ship, and conceded them before you made them, but I'd like specifics about the sexuality stuff from Moore and King. I've been reading HPL all my life, and read his biography by de Camp. If anyone on earth was "against sex", it was HPL. I'm not big on psychoanalyzing authors, but where do you think his problems with his wife came from? He might have been an asexual.
Aug. 7, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST
Let us know if you find any specifics about sexuality in HPL's work, and good luck with that sexuality-as-benevolent-transformation idea in Alien.
Aug. 7, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
Please provide a couple samples in regard to Lovecraft's work referring to sexual subtext... Lovecraft stories; not movies or expanded mythos. I'm curious.
Aug. 7, 2012, 1:27 p.m. CST
Ignoring your rudeness, I'd ask: what specifically in the The Dunwich Horror signifies a sexual subtext?
Aug. 7, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST
Aug. 7, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST
If you ever notice somebody in a TB that posts excessively rude argumentative bullshit ad nauseam and leaves no space between his punctuation marks, you can most assuredly assume that it's that killik cunt. He gets banned like every other day yet keeps coming back. I've noticed him on multiple occasions using several accounts to argue with himself even. He's really that needy for conflict. Somebody's got a trolling problem. I'd say try not to feed him, but the cunt will just go on and feed himself if no one bites. And that's pretty sad.
Aug. 7, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST
...I agree. I post next to never. He had points. Just was increasingly a dick. Anyway, his posts seem to be gone now. Waste of time.
Aug. 7, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST
Especially when most of his stories are told in first person. It seems to cause problems when you start breaking them down to translate them to a visual medium. Hard to keep them truly faithful without having a voiceover running the entire time..which, with the rare exception here and there, just doesn't work on film.
Aug. 7, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST
I've made the mistake myself a couple times. He usually starts out pretty reasonable and becomes nastier and nastier as it goes on. Especially if you're making good points that he can't refute or if you ask him to back up any of his claims.