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FBI profiling chief Jack Crawford – played by Dennis Farina in “Manhunter,” Scott Glenn in “Silence of the Lambs,” and Harvey Keitel in “Red Dragon” – will be played in NBC’s “Hannibal” by “CSI” refugee Laurence Fishburne.

Nobody played Crawford in the 2001 movie version of “Hannibal.”

Denmark native Mads Mikkelson, 46, who was very hard on James Bond’s genitals in “Casino Royale,” will play the cannibalistic psychoanalyst in the midseason series about what Dr. Lecter was up to before his FBI profiler pal, Will Graham, discovered Lecter’s unsavory hobby.

Hugh Dancy (“Our Idiot Brother,” “The Big C”) will play Graham. Graham was the troubled hero of “Red Dragon,” Thomas Harris’ first Lecter novel, which was made into Michael Mann’s excellent 1986 thriller “Manhunter” (starring Brian Cox as Hannibal Lecktor) and Brett Ratner’s rather less accomplished 2002 Anthony Hopkins remake.

The “Red Dragon” novel begins long after Graham captured Lecter. The new series will begin with a pre-incarceration Lecter working with Graham to find other serial killers.

“The Silence of the Lambs,” which depicts (among many other things) Lecter’s escape, was the Graham-free sequel to “Red Dragon.”

NBC has ordered 13 episodes. Bryan Fuller, who also scripted the “Munsters” reboot pilot “Mockingbird Lane” for NBC, wrote the “Hannibal” pilot and serves as the series' creator/showrunner.

Fuller, who wrote for “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine” and “Star Trek: Voyager” before he created “Dead Like Me,” “Wonderfalls” and “Pushing Daisies,” scripted the best episodes of “Heroes’” first season, including the killer Noah Bennet episode “Company Man.”

Martha De Laurentiis, a member of the filmmaking clan behind all five Lecter movies, is producing the series as well.

Fishburne’s prior credits include “Apocalypse Now,” “Pee-wee’s Playhouse,” “Boyz n The Hood,” and “The Matrix.” He’ll be seen next year playing Perry White in “Man of Steel.”

Find the Hollywood Reporter’s story on the matter here.

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  • July 30, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST

    It seems odd to have Fishburne coming back to TV...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    I was under the impression that he was no longer interested in weekly television series work; and that was his reason for leaving CSI.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:19 a.m. CST

    YES! I dig Larry Fishburne!

    by ciroslive

    I think his reason for leaving CSI: was that it was dull and boring procedural television. Hopefully the Graham/Lecter makes it fresh!

  • July 30, 2012, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Good luck, Mads...

    by Skraggo

    I don't envy anyone having to follow Hopkins in the Lecter role.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST

    all for it

    by Balkin Flabgurter

    every week new news makes it seem like this show is really coming together and might be decent, with Fuller writing and the cast they have announced so far it looks pretty good.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST

    I actually thought Red Dragon was Ratner's best movie.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    But it's been years since I've seen it, so maybe it hasn't aged as well.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST

    FOR ONE HUNDRED YEARS

    by martinprince

    WE HAVE PROFILED HANNIBAL LECTER!!!

  • July 30, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST

    Saying Red Dragon was Ratner's best film...

    by Queefer Sutherland

    ...is like smashing nine of your toes with a hammer, then only smashing the last one with a rock and proclaiming that toe the best of the bunch.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST

    As for Fishburne

    by Queefer Sutherland

    This is probably a lot less work than CSI, where he got a lot of screen time. I can't see him getting that much in this show. He can probably just phone it in and collect the paycheck.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Wait, is this news?

    by Grando

    Didn't I read this a week ago on comingsoon?

  • July 30, 2012, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Cash grab, not interested

    by BenBraddock

    This horse is well & truly dead

  • July 30, 2012, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Hercules

    by Tanning Chatum

    You self moderated yourself. I'm impressed. You're maturing big fella. Nice to see.

  • July 30, 2012, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Ratner's Red Dragon

    by Glenn

    This film is still on my worst Top Ten of all time, for studio movies. I remember one shot (and that may be it) where he completes de-villainizes the Villain and, in the process, hangs a great actor out to dry: Ralph Fiennes running around his house naked. The angle, the lens... technically this guy hasn't a clue.

  • July 30, 2012, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Don't forget Nightmare on Elm Street 3!

    by Dataset

    Jus' sayin'.

  • July 30, 2012, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Brian Cox was an awesome Lecter

    by Green

  • July 30, 2012, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Brian Cox was the *best* Lector, IMHO...

    by irishraidersfan

    Articulate, charming and absolutely deadly. Hopkins was good in Lambs, but looking back not very credible as an award winning psychologist. Imagine walking into his office and him trying to treat you? Sheesh... Cox's Lector could seem so 'normal'.

  • July 30, 2012, 3:04 a.m. CST

    rumourd

    by Tanning Chatum

    Can you expand? What were the problems with the lens and angle?

  • July 30, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST

    irishraidersfan

    by WeylandYutani

    Excellent observation. I thought both Cox and Hopkins were great, but Hopkins went into full camp mode for his two follow up films. Cox was not creepy, but he was wickedly charming.

  • July 30, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST

    How the heck are NBC going to up

    by WeylandYutani

  • July 30, 2012, 3:31 a.m. CST

    How the heck is NBC going to pull this off?!

    by WeylandYutani

    The Hannibal series is very violent, gory, sexual and frightening... and let's not forget the cannibalism. I don't see a toned down version working on network TV. HBO, Stars, FX or perhaps Showtime could work, but NBC? Ummmm... Are they getting some kind of nudity/gore/violence exemption from the FCC?

  • Shame HBO (presumably) wasn't given a chance to pick this series up. Something such as this or in the vein of David Fincher's SEVEN would absolutely kill on HBO, and although the comparisons would be made to Showtimes Dexter, aside from being about serial killers, the shows wouldn't be more different.

  • July 30, 2012, 4:36 a.m. CST

    the fbi profiler is a ni(bong)

    by paul burnett

    What did he say? He said the fbi profiler is near..

  • He no longer needs to keep up his "normal" human facade once he's been caught. He even seems to get a kick out of freaking people out by living up to his infamy on the rare occasions he's been allowed visitors. I don't see a problem with that, you see that sort of behaviour in documentaries where serial killers are interviewed. I doubt very much that they behaved in a "look how scary I am" manner when they were trying to pass as normal prior to their capture.

  • July 30, 2012, 6:29 a.m. CST

    Crawford got Nick Fury'd. Boom!

    by Fries Against

  • July 30, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Brian Cox has been, and always will be, the only one

    by thefreshestthing

    to play Hannibal Lektor. Let these weaker dudes have their Lecters.

  • July 30, 2012, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Neither version of Red Dragon is very good...

    by Bullet_time_Facehugger

    ...and Red Dragon is my favorite of the Lector books. I never read Hannibal Rising. I had issues with both movies. Manhunter never really gets into the psyche of Dolarhyde, and there's too much stunt casting in Rattner's Red Dragon.

  • July 30, 2012, 7:56 a.m. CST

    I wonder why Fishburne has so quickly moved to another detective series when

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    he just left CSI. I don't get that. It's not that much of a change of pace. I think he's a good choice. I'm just surprised he jumping back to tv so quickly.

  • July 30, 2012, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Remember when Manhunter came out in the 80's

    by vin_diggler

    And everyone could not stop talking about this Brian Cox guy who played Lector? Remember all the people at work walking around quoting Cox and discussing how creeped out they were by him? Remember how excited everyone got whe they heard how they were making Silence of the Lambs into a feature film because they might get a chance to see Cox reprise is awe inspiring role as Lector one more time? Yea me either! Hopkins is and will always be the better of the two.

  • July 30, 2012, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Pass.

    by DonkeyBalls

  • July 30, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Lecter as Therapist

    by SHADOWPRIME

    I wonder if he was good as a therapist? The books may have dealt with that, but I don't recall. True, he was a psychotic serial killer, but he was also enormously intelligent and perceptive, and he clearly didn't kill all/most of his patients. Was he a good therapist?

  • Herc why do you get so wet over this Heroes episode? Every damn time you post about this Hannibal show you use that line. Get over it Heroes sucked... this too will suck.

  • July 30, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Rob0729

    Just because Silence of the Lambs was a huge box office success and Manhunter wasn't, it doesn't mean that Hopkins' performance was better than Cox's. No one was quoting Cox because Manhunter was a box office failure. Not because it sucked, but because it was relatively low budget and marketed as a cheesy B-Movie. Back then, Michael Mann was just a TV producer not the critically acclaimed director he became, William Peterson was a stage actor with little movie experience, Bryan Cox was an actor on British TV, and Joan Allen was a young no one. Also, Cox's performance didn't lend to quotable sound bites. His portrayal of Lector (or Lecktor as it was in the movie) was very different than Hopkins. Cox's performance made Lector more human without grandious dialog ("I ate his liver with a fine Chiante and favre beans"). Hopkins portrayed Lector more of a monster who was not human. Besides, how much of the quotable dialog has to do with the script and not the actors. You can make a strong case for that because Hopkins was comical delivering the weak dialog in Red Dragon. I think both Cox and Hopkins did a brilliant job portraying Lector (at least Hopkins' first pass at it). They just portrayed him very differently. In fact, if you didn't know they were the same character, you would never have guessed it in a million years.

  • July 30, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Hopkins.

    by Fries Against

  • July 30, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    The Fishburne/Peterson connection continues..

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    first CSI, now Harris' character.

  • July 30, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Good choice

    by Keith Small

  • It was dull, then Ted Danson came in and totally revitalized the show. Fishburne's character on CSI had a serial killer nemesis who played cat-and-mouse games with him. I'd guess if anyone wants to see the extent of violence and gore, and how a network might handle this kind of subject, check out Fishburne's final few episodes on CSI.

  • July 30, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    big jim..

    by paul burnett

    Well said, Danson has been a major revalation on CSI,though i must admit to being a CSI junkie and have never found it boring (NY can be a bit dry at times and least said about Miami the better). As for violence/gore or horror, the SQUEEGAL episode of CSI freaks me out to this day.

  • July 30, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Puff The Magic Dragon

    by B Arnold Quizzling

    What's up with the puffiness? Him, Brenden Fraiser, Val Kilmer? Is that an age thing?

  • Of course that's my opinion, but one I'm very comfortable with. Everything since Manhunter and Lambs has been unnecessary nonsense. Good cast, I really like Mikkelson and hope he gets tons of work (and can't wait to see what they do with him in Thor 2), but I just can't see this working as a series. The premise is too repetitive, and the source material is played out.

  • July 30, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    NBC doesn't Deserve a show like this

    by Kyle DeMattio

    Hell, All broadcast networks don't deserve this. This would be better off on AMC or HBO or Showtime, probably FX. If it was on ABC or CBS or Fox, that would be bad enough, but NBC??? This will end up being like Firefly, a great show that got cancelled before its time.

  • is pretty damn impressive.

  • July 30, 2012, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Saying that somebody scripted the best episodes of Heroes...

    by Queefer Sutherland

    ...is like smashing nine of your toes with a hammer, then only smashing the last one with a rock and proclaiming that toe the best of the bunch. Heroes was crap. Pushing Daisies was crap, and mostly ripped off the style of Amelie. Wonderfalls was stupid. Voyager was crap. DS9 was great, but I don't know if Fuller was involved in any of the good episodes. Dead Like Me, however, was a great series. But Fuller seems to have lost it since then. We'll see, I suppose.

  • July 30, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST

    rob0729

    by vin_diggler

    I never meant to suggest that Cox's performance "sucked". I am simply disputing the many talkbackers that always insist that Cox's version of Lector is superior to Hopkins'. Yes a lot of the credit for the memorable quotes goes to the writing but good dialog is meaningless if the delivery is shit. By your suggestion even Nicholas Cage could have been great as Lector in SOTL because the writing was so good. I must disagree. Hopkins took a good script and made it great. Now be honest, when you misquoted Lector's favre bean statement in your last post you heard Hopkins' voice in your head while typing it.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:06 p.m. CST

    He's playing Perry White?

    by Mugato5150

    That's pretty funny.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    He's playing Perry White?

    by Mugato5150

    That's pretty funny.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:11 p.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Rob0729

    Silence of the Lambs grossed $130.7 million domestically. Manhunter grossed $8.6 million domestically. In fact, Silence made more its opening weekend ($13.7 million) than Manhunter made its entire run. A huge reason why people are more likely to quote Hopkins over Cox is because more people saw Hopkins' version of Lecter the opening weekend of Silence than people saw Cox the entire theater run of Manhunter.

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  • July 30, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    rob0729

    by vin_diggler

    "A huge reason why people are more likely to quote Hopkins over Cox is because more people saw Hopkins' version of Lecter" Really? That's why nobody quotes Cox? I have seen Manhunter many times since it came out and I can't come up with one quote from Cox. I tell you what, why don't you give me one memorable quote that Cox delivered in Manhunter without doing a google search. No I take that back, go ahead and do a search if it helps. I would be interested to see what you find that can stand up to the more than a dozen Hopkins' Lector quotes I could throw at you right now off the top of my head.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    This show will last a season, then they will pull the plug on it.

    by hank henshaw

  • July 30, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Rob0729

    I admit I can remember many exact quotes, but unlike Silence of the Lambs I haven't heard any quotes quoted to me hundreds of time by people I know and on TV. Memorable quotes are usually that because so many people quote them. That's why hugely successful films produce memorable quotes. I mean I can quote hundreds of lines from Arnold from Commando. Now that was a bad film and Arnold can't act. But people have quoted that movie over the years. Does that mean Arnold is a better actor than Cox? Based on your criteria, it is. Some movies are just more quotable for many different reasons. Some are just really successful that lend to people quoting them. Some just have really memorable lines. Some are just memorable performances. To say that Hopkins' performance was better just because he has more memorable lines is silly. Cox didn't talk about having a census taker that he ate his liver with a Chiante and favre beans. His dialog was not that over the top. His dialog was more subtile. If Hopkins had his dialog, he would have far less memorable quotes. If Silence did Manhunter's box office, Hopkins would have far less memorable quotes.

  • July 30, 2012, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Again

    by Rob0729

    Personally, I cannot choose between Cox and Hopkins because although they were playing the same character, their portrayal of them were very different. Jonathan Demme had Lector has as this amoral monster who was refined yet vicious. He put himself above everyone he interacted with and his respect was earned. I think either Demme or Hopkins described his eyes of being a shark because there was so much coldness and ruthlessness behind them. Michael Mann made him more of an adversary for Wil. Cox portrayed him with more realism than Hopkins. Cox said he based his performance on real life serial killer Peter Manuel. So his performance was far more subtile than Hopkins'.

  • ... except that it was on Showtime and it was good. Good ol' NBC. Still trying to get network audiences to buy in to rip-offs of cable shows. Dear NBC: Stick to sitcoms, reality shows, and sports. The More You Know...

  • Will there be a crossover ep with "Elementary"? <p> It's like I'm a genius producer. More coke!

  • July 30, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST

    You can quote hundreds of lines from Commando!

    by vin_diggler

    I just...I don't know how to respond to that. I now understand who I am trying to reason with and I graciouosly step away from this debate.

  • He was miles better than Scott Glenn and Harvey Keitel. Farina's Crawford was a man of action and a leader of men, and it was easy to see how people would respect and follow him. Scott Glenn's depiction was lifeless and stiff and showed me no reason for Starling (and others) to put him on the pedestal they did. Keitel was okay, but mostly just a warmed over rehash of Farina. If they were smart, they'd hire Dennis again for this TV show, age be damned...

  • July 30, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Rob0729

    Remember when I would kill you last? I lied.

  • Seriously, you are going to start one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard that one actor had more quotable lines so he was better and coward out when i give you an example of a very quotable crappy movie.... and then insult me to boot. I love it when people with limited intelligence think they are intellectually superior to others.

  • July 30, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST

    ugh you really want me to continue this?

    by vin_diggler

    Ok first off I never said he was a better Lecter because he was more quotable. I just said he had more memorable quotes. At no point did I say this was the reason he was a better version of Lecter. Second you're the one who seems more obsessed with the whole quote issue. you're the one who came up with the ludicrous argument that Commando had many memorable quotes so it is equal to TSOTL. 100 memorable quotes! gee exagerate much? Besides Arnold was known through out the 80's and 90's for delivering cringe worthy cheesy quote's. It think it was in his contract to have at least one per film. "you shouldn't drink and bake" - Raw Deal, "stick around" - Predator, "I need a vacation"- T2. They were meant to be memorable due to the cheese factor. Hopkins' lines are memorable not for the cheesiness but for the way he delivered them.

  • July 30, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Cox was superior

    by nicegoogly

    No. You had disadvantages.

  • July 30, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Rob0729

    Apparently, reading comprehension is not your friend. First, I never compared Commando to Silence of the Lambs. I compared it to Manhunter. I said it is a more quotable movie even though it is a shit movie. Second, I was making the point that quotable movies do not mean it is good. You help to prove that. Third, there are thousands of great performances that don't have quotable lines. All you have to do is go through the best actor winners over the years. Name one quotable line from Colin Firth in the King's Speech. How Jeff Bridges in Crazy Heart? Or Sean Penn in Milk? Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood? Or Forrest Whittaker in The Last king of Scottland? Or Adriene Brody in the Pianist? Or Denzel Washington in Training Day? Those are the Oscar winners for best actor over the last decade minus the last one who was in a silent movie. Between all those Oscar winning performances, you probably can't think of a single quote without looking it up. By your moronic definition, they all gave shitty performances because they didn't give quotable lines. Sorry, your premise is moronic. Some movies produce quotes and other don't. It speaks nothing to their quality in most cases. You are more likely to produce quotes from a crappy action flick than you are from an excellent drama or thriller.

  • July 30, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Quotes

    by vin_diggler

    I drink your milkshake- there will be blood Two men can't make a baby. No but we keep trying anyway- milk King conga ain't got nothing on me- training day No I did not look them up

  • July 30, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST

    King kong

    by vin_diggler

  • July 30, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Besides you're the one still obsessed with the quote issue

    by vin_diggler

  • July 30, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Quotes

    by Rob0729

    Congrats! Ten best actor winners you came up with three quote. All three quote that most people wouldn't know. I'll ask you in 20 years to give me those quotes and you will be stumped. I am not obsessed with the quote thing. I just think it is a stupid argument.

  • July 30, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Oh your one of those types

    by vin_diggler

    Can't even gimme credit for veering your little challenge. Whatever, I've played your game long enough. You turned my simple point that hopkins' was a better lectern into a colossal wate of time. In or debating which film is better. Not which film is more quotable. Not how many films I can quote. I'm just comparing actors. Now please get on with your life.

  • July 30, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Beating not veering

    by vin_diggler

  • July 30, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Fuck auto-correct!

    by vin_diggler

  • July 30, 2012, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Larry has been in a rut since the original Matrix ... A fat rut.

    by GINGE_MUPPET

  • July 30, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Only idiots argue who was the better Lecter

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Because the whole issue is subjective. There is no way to prove who is the best. I LOVE Anthony Hopkins but think that Lecter was never his better performance. If you want to see Hopkins at his best, watch The Elephant Man, Remains of the Day, Shadowlands, The World's Fastest Indian or The Bounty. The real standout in Silence of the Lambs was Ted Levine. Now THAT was a performance. Yet he never gets mentioned. As far as I'm concerned, he stole the show from Hopkins and Foster.

  • July 30, 2012, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Remember what happens to Crawford in the books? SPOILERS

    by Flippadippa

    He dies of a heart attack sitting on a fucking bench after Starling and Lecter elope to Argentina. What a crock. Fuck you, Harris. And Cox owns as Lecktor.

  • July 30, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Manhunter quotes

    by alan_poon

    Would you like to leave your home phone number?

  • July 30, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    alan_poon, whose number are you asking for?

    by Queefer Sutherland

  • July 30, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Is this set in 2012 or in the past?

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • July 30, 2012, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Ted Levine ... Was indeed incredible in Silence ...

    by GINGE_MUPPET

  • July 30, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Cox was great...

    by Mike

    ...but saying he was better than Hopkins' once-in-a-lifetime Academy Award winning turn is an interesting contrarian view.

  • July 30, 2012, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Yes I am one of those types

    by Rob0729

    I enjoy arguing with idiots. I have never heard a dumber argument. Anthony Hopkins is the best because he is more quotable. There are plenty of legitimate reasons why to argue Hopkins is better, but arguing that he is better because it was written in the script "a census taker once tried to test me and I ate his liver with a some favre beans and nice chiante isn't" one of them. I credit Ted Tally for a lot of those quotable lines. Because he, unlike Michael Mann who wrote Manhunter, veered from the dialog in the book to make Hannibal Lector more of a menacing character. Mann stuck to the dialog and the flavor of the book which didn't give Cox as much play with. This why comparing the two are apples and oranges. Both gave great performances, but Ted Tally made Lector a focal point of the script, along with the fact Thomas Harris made him a bigger part of Silence of the Lambs than he did in the Red Dragon because he didn't know Lector would be so popular, than Mann did. One thing is for sure is that Hopkins sucked in the Red Dragon, but I think he was mailing in the part by that point. In fact, so did Ted Tally with a fairly weak script (or possibly a butcher job of a good script by Brett Ratner).

  • July 30, 2012, 6:47 p.m. CST

    queefer sutherland

    by Rob0729

    It puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again

  • July 30, 2012, 6:48 p.m. CST

    queefer sutherland

    by Rob0729

    I agree that Levine has one of the most underrated performances in film history. And he has the best lines: It puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again PUT THE FUCKIN LOTION IN THE BASKET!

  • July 30, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Again with the quotes?

    by vin_diggler

    Well if you enjoy arguing with idiots then you must enjoy arguing with yourself. Once again I must point out that you are the one making a big deal about the quotes. At no point did I say hopkins is better because he is more quotable. So right there your point is invalid. Besides once you start name calling to try to prove your point then you lose all credibility. Have a good night.

  • July 30, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST

    vin_diggler

    by Rob0729

    You are the one who said: - Remember all the people at work walking around quoting Cox and discussing how creeped out they were by him? No one one was quoting him because Manhunter was a bomb at the box office and no one saw the movie in the theaters. I will address the other lines of your moronic argument: You Wrote: And everyone could not stop talking about this Brian Cox guy who played Lector? Again, the movie was a box office bomb. So few saw his performance. Not his fault. Another stupid argument. You wrote: Remember how excited everyone got whe they heard how they were making Silence of the Lambs into a feature film because they might get a chance to see Cox reprise is awe inspiring role as Lector one more time? First, many people who did see Manhunter did want to see Cox reprise his role. But again, the movie literally made $8 million at the box office. No one saw the movie. It is a little unfair to blame Cox for that since he was British TV actor when he made that movie. I chose to focus on one of your many stupid arguments. Manhunter was a movie that probably came out at the wrong time. Michael Mann was not taken seriously as a director (he was just the producer of Miami Vice back then) and people weren't into serial killers. Plus there were no known actors attached to it like Jodie Foster was attached to Silence of the Lambs. People don't talk about Cox because the movie wasn't successful. Not because his performance wasn't memorable. Everyone I know who saw Manhunter thinks his performance was outstanding. Come up with a legitimate argument for once and we will talk. So far your, no one saw Manhunter so no one quotes Cox or were creeped out by him is a ridiculous argument.

  • July 30, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST

    BTW

    by Rob0729

    You were the one starting with the insults> I just responded in kind.

  • July 30, 2012, 7:18 p.m. CST

    rob0729, it wasn't just his lines, but how he said them.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Truly one of the creepiest performances ever.

  • July 30, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Hopkins and Cox were both excellent

    by Queefer Sutherland

    And while I maintain it is far from Hopkins' best performances, his take on the character was, I think, a much more thoughtful one. The unblinking eyes, the tone of his voice, the facial expressions. It's certainly not a bad performance. The worst I cold say about it was that it was a bit cartoony. Cox, on the other hand, underplayed the role, and didn't really ooze much menace in my opinion. Hopkin's Lecter would probably have eaten Cox's Lecter. But neither Manhunter nor Red Dragon were great films in my estimation.

  • July 30, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Fine we'll do it your way

    by vin_diggler

    Manhunter was a bomb at the box office so no one saw his performance. So it's not his fault. Well let me point out another box office bomb called Ed Wood. It grossed only 5 million( which is less tha manhunter) and very few people saw it either. Yet somehow a certain Martin Landau not only was nominated for best actor in this film but he won it as well. How can this be? No one went to see and it bombed. His performance should have been totally overlooked. Maybe it's because mr landau put on such a strong performance that he shined bright enough to still get recognition for a mostly unseen film. If cox was so great then I am sure someone would have noticed. Maybe not an Oscar nod but at least an honorable mention from someone. For many people who did see manhunter did want to see cox reprise his role. Many people? Wait didn't you just say no one saw it. Which is it? You can't have it both ways. Pick an argument and stick with it.

  • July 30, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Well I'm glad we could entertain someone.

    by vin_diggler

  • July 30, 2012, 8:16 p.m. CST

    You are, vin, you are. Keep it up. I want to see who has the last word.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I'm betting with some of my friends right now. Not going to tell you who my money is on.

  • July 30, 2012, 9:58 p.m. CST

    WAS SHE A GREAT BIG FAT PERSON?

    by MCVamp

  • July 30, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Commando was a great movie

    by slone13

    This is not up for discussion.

  • July 30, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST

    stuntcock mike I'm not drinking any fucking Kool-Aid

    by Queefer Sutherland

    It was merely a competent movie and should have been much better, considering the cast. Sorry if you're too pedestrian to see that.

  • I hope not. It's far past time for Mr. Harris to branch out. He's a great writer, but he's supped at this particular teat for far too long.

  • People weren't "into" serial killers in 1986? When did they become popular then? 1991-ish? Was Hopkins riding some sort of public-hungry serial killer wave in 'Silence of the Lambs' or did his noteworthy performance **create** it? If people got "into" movie serial killers sometime after 1986, it's chiefly because Anthony Hopkins's Lecter fascinated and repelled them in a way that Brian Cox's Lecter didn't. Cox was "just some guy in a cell", because 'Manhunter' belonged to Tom Noonan's utterly horrifying Tooth Fairy. And yet, even in a movie where Hopkins wasn't the central character, he was mesmerising to the point where most people who saw 'Silence of the Lambs' have probably forgotten that he wasn't even the "main" serial killer of the movie. Somehow, a middle-aged guy in a cell caught the interest of the general public much more than an at-large, cross-dressing serial killer who was skinning women and making a lady-suit out of their remains. It takes one hell of a memorable performance to achieve that.

  • ...in the UK. I'd actually seen it at the flicks six times and by that time it was one of my faves (still the best Lektor movie by far). He was a lovely bloke and very forthcoming about acting techniques. How he wasn't prominent on Harry's list of cult British film actors was a bit of a joke (but I forgive you big fella!)

  • July 31, 2012, 10 a.m. CST

    scratchmonkey, Hopkins performance was legendary indeed

    by SergeantStedenko

    but I think it was the chemistry between him and Foster that made the film work. Take away Foster as Starling's reactions to Lecter's eccentricities and the performance falls apart, imo.

  • July 31, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    daveryfirst

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Yeah, I've never seen that much effort from Fishburne, except for the physical effort in the Matrix. Not so much with the next two. Never seen that much acting effort.

  • July 31, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Is this where I write FIRST?

    by Papa

    Hemingway’s Foyer – Your Last Place To Be A Man www.hemingwaysfoyer.com

  • Aug. 1, 2012, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Get over it people "Manhunter" sucked balls and as for red dragon...

    by ShakaLaka Lambo

    it was actually quite good, and certainly better than the shitfest that was "Hannibal" or "Hannibal rising". Norton walking through the Leed's home talking to his recorder was great but the movie would have been better had Demme returned and Scott Glenn returned. Hannibal talking to his "dinner" guests was creepy as hell considering what we already knew about the main course. Manhunter was shit, it's still shit, and this show will be shit. Now thats a fact of life that you just gonna have to get realistic about, because this world is full of unrealistic motherfuckers. (thanks Marcellus Wallace). I get so tired of hearing pretentious kids brag about shit movies cause they think it makes them look mature. Kids it doesn't help when you pick shit movies like Manhunter or that travesty that was X-men first class (God that movie made my head feel like it was going to explode , the way they raped the canon). NBC sucks guys, the only thing they have going for them is Sunday Night Football which is easily the best thing on Network TV followed closely by whatever games are on during the day. By the way before you morons try to argue remember I'm the one who told you that Amazing Spider-Man would rip The Dark Knight Rises a new one, and we all know I was right on that one. Maybe this time you'll listen...yeah I know your idiots, it comes from upbringing, your parents are probably Obama loving idiots too.

  • Aug. 1, 2012, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Come on Mads go back to Thor as Hogun

    by chien_sale

  • Aug. 1, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Shakawahatever...

    by Flippadippa

    Forget it, I was going to piss on your comment but I couldn't be bothered to read that wall of drivel. Thanks for coming out, though.

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