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The next Behind the Mask film lands a familiar face and needs some help from viewers like you!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a nice little bit of casting for the upcoming Behind the Mask prequel/reboot/Idon'tknowwhat, currently titled Before the Mask: The Return of Leslie Vernon.

Director Scott Glosserman is hard at work trying to raise funds for the movie to make it independently. I don’t post a lot about Kickstarter projects for a few reasons, the main of which is that a whole lot of them are unworthy, but I have to admit that I also fear the deluge of young filmmakers who mail in asking for a post on their no-budget Kickstarter in the few instances I’ve posted about one. It’s not a comfortable position being in, ignoring one filmmaker’s plea in favor of another and since I don’t want AICN to turn into Ain’t Kickstarters Cool News it means we have to be very choosy on what we pick to spotlight.

I personally love the concept of genre filmmakers pre-selling their films to their own audiences. Having seen the horrors of low budget genre money-begging first hand I can totally get behind these guys who already have a known and liked property trying to get it funded outside of even the low budget studio system.



Over at the Before the Mask Kickstarter they have a few various levels of support, from a bumper sticker to buying your way into an on-screen death in the film, but the one that fascinates me the most is the DVD/Blu/Digital Download pre-order. It’s essentially asking everybody who likes the franchise to pre-buy the DVD. If the Kickstarter isn’t met and the film isn’t made you get your money back, but if it does reach its goal then those who would have bought a ticket or a DVD anyway have helped make it happen.

That takes the whole raising money thing out of the concept phase, with investors trying to figure out how many people will buy a ticket or a DVD and giving a budget based on that, and into a hard numbers realm.

I want this Kickstarter to work and not just because I’m a big fan of Behind the Mask and want to see more, but because if it does that opens the door for other filmmakers to use the same approach. Maybe we can finally see Don Coscarelli’s Phantasm V that way. Or maybe John Carpenter can do something low budget and awesome again (The Ward can not be his last film). I bet Joe Dante has something awesome he can do (his Kickstarter for Trailers From Hell did very well, too).

Yes, there’s some actual news buried in this Kickstarter rant. It was assumed that most of the cast would return for the next Behind the Mask, but I can tell you folks that Robert Englund has officially attached himself in a “substantially” bigger role. He was more of a cameo in the first film, but it was strongly hinted at that he was the Loomis to Leslie Vernon’s Michael Myers.



Englund was great in his bit and I think having him be a more central part to a Leslie Vernon story would really kick some ass.

Apparently Englund’s reps insist on only putting his name on fully greenlighted projects, but he loves this franchise enough to break that rule.

Also confirmed returning are Kane Hodder and Scott Wilson, hot off his great work as Hershel in The Walking Dead.

So, if you want to support genre and take part in a surely trendsetting experiment (for good or ill) visit the Before the Mask Kickstarter and put some money down.

Here are some words from Scott Glosserman on the Kickstarter and the return of Robert Englund:

"I'm thrilled to officially have Robert Englund back for BEFORE THE MASK and I'm humbled that he and his team have agreed to make a rare exception to their policy of not formally associating with a project without a green light. That dedication to our movie speaks volumes about Robert's character and our cause. Robert is not only a horror icon that brings validation and gravitas to what we're doing, but he is also our Vince Lombardi. We all love being around him because we learn so much. Robert's got his work cut out for him this time. I don't want to give anything away, but let's just say he's got a bit more to do on this picture."
"I am also blown away by the support we've received thus far. Having raised over $100,000.00 with only 500 backers is tremendous. Although we've still got a mountain to climb, I believe we can do this because our B4TM Facebook community alone has over 14 thousand people. If we can get 10 thousand pre-order commitments for our Supporter's Edition DVD ($32) which is less than 2 1/2% of the number of BEHIND THE MASK DVD's that were originally sold, we will eclipse our goal. Daunting? Yes. But, when viewed from 80 thousand feet, I know it's doable."

It should also be noted that Glosserman has an investor that will match the Kickstarter funds dollar for dollar should it meet or exceed its goal, so it won’t just have a budget of $450,000.

It’s a very interesting time to be a movie fan. More and more the power seems to be shifting into our hands. We fans already had a voice after years of neglect and now that voice seems to be growing ever louder. This being a success would be a huge step towards eliminating the bean-counters from low budget genre filmmaking.



-Eric Vespe
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  • July 28, 2012, 3:53 a.m. CST

    I really dug the shit out of the first film.

    by Nichole

    Definitely one of the best horror films in recent memory.

  • July 28, 2012, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Did people actually like this movie?

    by JackDeth

    Because I thought it was terrible. I can't believe anybody actually wants to see another one of these.

  • July 28, 2012, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Nice nod to The Mutilator in that poster.

    by Nichole

  • July 28, 2012, 4:01 a.m. CST

    jackdeth, really?

    by Nichole

    By your name, I assume you like Trancers though? Just want to hear your thoughts WHY you didn't like it. Just Wonderin'.

  • July 28, 2012, 5:15 a.m. CST

    by Nichole

    Random If anyone cares, someone uploaded by phantomcreepsreturns The Killing of America on youtube. Just type in the title and uncut. Trippy real life footage. Seems like early COPS episodes mixed with faces of death. Interesting footage, because it is from 1982. Shows 42nd street, showing Shogun Assassin on the marquee.

  • July 28, 2012, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Scott G

    by Jason Walsh

    Ill contribute if I get that cool poster. I'm here or jasonwalsh79@hotmail or jasonwalsh79 on twitter.

  • July 28, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Behind the Mask was good fun.

    by future help

    that movie and Severence was my 2 favorite horror/comedies that year

  • July 28, 2012, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Behind the Mask worked to a point

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    It's a novel idea approaching a horror film from the opposite end of what you normally see. They deadpan the humor behind it enough that it works but what I didn't like about it was the pacing. I felt like a lot of it was masturbatory padding material on the filmmaker's part, a kind of "yeah, we know this shit so we're including it whether it interrupts the flow of our film or not" thing. That's the only real gripe I had with it though. If some of it had gone through a trim, it would be a pretty perfect lower budget and actually INTERESTING (since there are seemingly less and less of those these days) horror-comedy hybrid. The title of this film however, with the upfront caveat that I haven't hit play on the video or read up on anything about the plot, seems weirdly contradictory - not from a story sense but from a logic sense. "Before" and a "return" - how does that work exactly? We get a prequel crammed into a sequel? A presequel? The mind boggles at the thought.

  • July 28, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    The reasons I didn't like Leslie Vernon....

    by JackDeth

    ....are too numerous to list, but it all basically boils down to the painfully awkward performances (which I think the director should take most of the blame for) and the terribly unfunny jokes. Well, it was really one joke, and they just riffed on it for 80 minutes. I really can't believe I didn't walk out on this movie. But I almost never do that. I only ever walked out on Dreamcatcher and one other movie I can't remember. I would elaborate further, but I've got to go to bed after a 12-hour night shift....... and then go see Batman in IMAX tomorrow!!!

  • July 28, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST

    I'll probably pre-buy this DVD, because...

    by heks

    1) I did mostly like the first one, and more importantly 2) Because I just really want to support this type of model. Genre fans are in this position where we often aren't large enough for studios to really care about us but plenty large enough to fund the stuff we really like and want more of if we band together; and for not much more than we'd normally spend to buy the DVD/Blu-Ray anyways.

  • July 28, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Totally forgot about that movie...

    by DigitalBeachWar

    It was boring, unfunny and ill performed.

  • July 28, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST


    by dr geek

    The first one ruled. I am not seeing how they can pull off a prequel, but I am ready to be surprised.

  • But if it's close before the deadline of August 9, I might pitch in $100.

  • July 28, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST

    My lady and I met Nathan Baesel at a wedding two years ago...

    by ThulsaBoom

    ...really nice guy, and he was pretty sure the movie would get made back then. I'm surprised it's taken this long to get off the ground, because the first one is great.

  • ...before I met him.

  • July 28, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST

    I like Scott Glosserman and hope for his success, but...

    by Ken Shaw

    ...I really didn't enjoy the original movie. What he was trying to do was said and done with "Man Bites Dog". I know there is a different pathology at work in the main characters of both films and it's tongue-in-cheek, but the format seemed like a familiar path. I am more interested in his documentary work even though I love horror movies.

  • July 28, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    i pre-ordered the bluray/dvd cuz i loved the 1st movie

    by Matt Szczerba

    it's on netflix streaming now, but i saw it on dvd years ago and loved the hell out of it. i tell people that love horror about it. i don't see how they'll raise all that money in 9 days.

  • July 28, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Ya know what cheesed me out?

    by macheesmo3

    The constant reference to famous horror film icons with shortened nicknames "J,Chuck,Fred and Mike......." it was retarded andmade it sound like they all met up at Chili's for Margaritas after work or something. That being said, there WAS some good stuff at work there. But I found the delivery a bit much and some of the writing strained and cloying.

  • July 28, 2012, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Shifting the "power" into the hands of the fanboys...

    by Knuckleduster

    ... is probably the worst thing the film industry could do.

  • July 28, 2012, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Before the Return...

    by Immortal_Fish

    ...Back to the Future!

  • July 28, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    The Poster

    by Munro Kelly

    Great job on the poster, it looks and feels like it's straight from the 70's/80's.

  • If a studio doesn't believe in my movie enough to put up some money, or if I can't do it myself, I simply won't make it and I'll move onto another project. I use the money I make from previous movies to fund future projects, that's all there is to it.

  • July 29, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST

    What no Jim Carrey?

    by Eric

  • July 29, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST

    I don't get it.

    by KonkBob

  • July 29, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST

    I liked Behind the Mask better when it was called Man Bites Dog

    by Blarg Barfington

    I can appreciaqte that it was made by a guy with no money pursuing his dream. I can get behind that and raise a glass towards him....but if you're going to do that....why not do something a little more original? Plus, frankly, I thought it was a pretty lame movie anyway.

  • July 30, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST

    You can watch the screenwriter's story on the doc, Dreams on Spec

    by SergeantStedenko

    It's really funny watching him and the director, Glosserman, interact and how the writer deals with the changes Glosserman makes to his script and also how the writer tries to interject his two cents on set when Glosserman is trying to make the movie.