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A Couple Of Terminators Ready To Count To TEN!!
The Kidd here...
I was in and out of the office yesterday, so this one got lost in the pile on my desk, but I've got to say it's a bit cool to know that a couple of Terminators from the past and the most recent chapters of that franchise might be working together on something else. It would have been a lot cooler had TERMINATOR SALVATION not sucked, but we'll just have to think of what could have been as Variety reports that Sam Worthington is in talks to come on-board David Ayers' TEN, which already has the original T-800, Arnold Schwarzenegger, attached.
The story, penned by Skip Woods, would be a variation of sorts on Agatha Christie's Ten Little Indians, only this time it involves "an elite DEA task force that robs a dangerous drug cartel under the guise of a tactical raid on one of its safe houses. They think they've gotten away with millions in merch, until team members begin getting bumped off one by one."
I haven't really been much of a Worthington guy with the TITANS flicks and AVATAR really not doing much for me, and then you toss the TERMINATOR debacle in the mix, and... well... that's hardly a solid track record. But Arnold back on the screen is enough to have me interested in any of the projects he's involved with, so I guess it's true what they say... absence does make the heart grow fonder. Let's get more Schwarzenegger now.
-Billy Donnelly
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move on,..
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Worthington and Knightley are both pretty decent when the green screens go away and tey actually have to act. Not the best movie ever, but it surprised me.
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But huge minus marks for that no talent Aussie bellwhiff.
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July 25, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST
Cast Robert Patrick as a Deranged Meth Addict and Kristanna Loken as a Three Boobed Prostitute and We Have a Movie
by ass clown
Am I wrong?
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July 25, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST
Ten Little Indians aka And Then There Were None is Christie's greatest mystery
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
as far as I'm concerned. Forget Marple. Forget Poiroit. This book holds up even today in this technological Bayified age from a get your attention perspective. I challenge anyone out there to read this, obviously being aware of the technology limitations of when it was written. Do NOT skip to the end or you may as well throw the book away. I don't think it's more than 150 pages at the most. It's a must read.
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July 25, 2012, 3 p.m. CST
Fuck that's weird! 10 minutes ago I just wrote an email with that title..
by LeonardsBellbottoms
'and then there were none!' ..Very odd indeed.
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Remember when he was supposed to be the next big thing?
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Remember when he was supposed to be the next big thing?
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July 25, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST
kildeer1, nope didn't forget. I just didn't want to fan the flames.
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
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July 25, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
Imagine how even weirder if I had titled my email '10 Little Indians'..
by LeonardsBellbottoms
..but the email was about some visitors I had recently, and now I have none.. None of them were Indians so that would have made no sense. G'night!
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July 25, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
Imagine how even weirder if I had titled my email '10 Little Indians'..
by LeonardsBellbottoms
..but the email was about some visitors I had recently, and now I have none.. None of them were Indians so that would have made no sense. G'night!
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The fucker can't act, and his only believable role was Conan. That accent just goes beyond trying to suspend disbelief. A Terminator with an Austrian accent? No thanks.
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Outside of the opening scene, that was a shitty movie
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July 25, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST
Anyone else reminded of the Renny Harlin flick Mindhunters?
by openthepodbaydoorshal
Although the "10 Little Indians" plot device has been used countless times.
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July 25, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST
Sam Worthington needs to be "in talks" with an acting coach.
by Cletus Van Damme
Wooden bitch.
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This film is officially dead to me until a new writer comes on.
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god why wont that guy go away?
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July 25, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST
It's like Predator but with drugs instead of an alien.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
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Great fucking show. Better then T3 and that Salvation turd put together. Oh yeah: Expendables 3 is a hard R. Where's the talkback?
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Look how that turned out. Also I need more Mackey in my TV
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July 25, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST
grammaton cleric binks - thanks for the recommendation, I will check it out
by Tim
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One epic sci-fi war film about John Connor, Kyle Reese, and the resistance taking out Skynet for good. Arnold can be another T800 that has been reprogrammed as Connor's bodyguard by the resistance's Tech-Com R&D division. This particular T800 looks old due to his outer organic layer aging as part of the infiltration process (it makes sense as Skynet's infiltrators would be easier to spot if they looked identical and stayed the same age).
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..he had a floppy 80s hairdo goin in, the fire burnt his hair and gave him the "flatop" style that become the terminator look.. How come in T2 and T3, Arnie wasn't sent back with his floppy fuckin hair intact eh? eh? Bullshit!
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the guy has ZERO screen presence.
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The first hour of the film was quite good- then as soon as they hit that awkward fade-to-black covering the deleted sex scene, the movie goes to hell, as we get that pointless diversion with the escape from the Resistance base, etc. Now, I thought the finale was decent enough (once you get past the awful HBC stuff) but that middle really hurt the film.
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I'd rather have TSCC Season 3 as well. That show was absolutely great.
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July 25, 2012, 4:51 p.m. CST
Did anyone really expect Salvation NOT to suck with no real input from Cameron and a music video director named McG? McG for fuck's sake!
by wcolbert
Only mentally challenged 13 year olds would name themselves that. No surprise the guy has virtually no idea how to direct a movie.
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July 25, 2012, 5:01 p.m. CST
If Sam Worthington passed within three feet of most of us in a mall he wouldn't be recognized. He'll sure never be recognized for his acting.
by Artemis Webb
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but I really didn't think Terminator: Salvation was that bad. Does it compare to the first two? Not even close. But it was definitely better than Rise of the Machines IMO.
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TERMINATOR: SALVATION actually had a lot going for it and its a movie I will happily rewatch for the quality of its visuals alone - particularly in the slightly harder Directors Cut. It could (and maybe should) have been an all time classic, but as it is it ended up as the third best film in an iconic franchise.
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July 25, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST
artemis webb - that's because Worthington looks like a good percentage of guys out there
by wcolbert
He just doesnt have a distinctive *look* to him that singles him out. If Christian Bale were sitting across from me at a Starbucks, I would definitely notice. If it were Patrick Stewart, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Will Smith, Jackie Chan, etc...I'd notice. but if Sam Worthington walked by...I honestly think he looks too much like an average Joe to be noticed unless you were actually looking for him. Especially if he puts on a hat and some sunglasses- poof, disappears. I don't think he's a horrible actor, but he did not belong in a Terminator movie. The whole idea for Skynet to have a face (kind of the opposite of what Cameron was GOING for)...and for there to be "human terminators with feelings and junk"...just never sat right with me.
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July 25, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST
In other news, Christian Bale visited the Aurora shooting victims
by wcolbert
Spent around 10 minutes with each person just talking to them, visited the memorial with his wife - VERY cool move on his part. I have all new respect for the man after this - he in no way was obligated to do this, and he did it anyway, and he did it without hesitation, as soon as he could get there. I wasn't a big Bale fan to start off with, but I'm definitely coming around after this, after his humility in the face of the set incident while making Salvation, and of course he even toned down his growl for the Dark Knight Rises - it wasn't nearly as grating on the nerves this time.
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At least it's nice to see a younger guy who's been in some recent, big movies team up with Arnie.
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July 25, 2012, 5:22 p.m. CST
@dude_gimme_tabs, It's okay if you say that word as long as you're black. You know that, right?
by IronEagle74
God bless America.
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MAKING SHIT
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Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
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July 25, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST
I like you Billy, that's why I'm going to kill you last.
by adeceasedfan
Good post Kidd. Great to see some Arnold love around here.
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I want to see a really mediocre one, like whoever was running the shop in Burn After Reading.
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July 25, 2012, 6:29 p.m. CST
Sorry, but Worthington is a black hole in any movie. He's a big, blank hole that sucks the fun out of it.
by AlienFanatic
He just lacks any compelling reason to watch. I'm not trying to be mean--the caption was just an effort to be clever--but Worthington really isn't much of an actor at all. Neither is Schwarzenegger, frankly, but at least he's got loads of charisma.
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But this time the Predator turns out to be one of their own men, so it's also THE THING (Carpenter version)! PRECOGNITIVE SPOILERS! One of the Ten fakes his death early on so he can continue killing the rest. Meanwhile everybody at thinks it's a drug cartel reprisal at first, until Arnie figures out that it's one of their own too late, creating fear and paranoia amongst the survivors Worthington and Arnie don't trust each other and are taken to the edge! Arnie then kills Worthington, only to have the real DEA officer killer reveal himself. Just as Arnie is about to get killed by the killer officer, we see...SURPRISE! Sam Worthington is still alive and saves Arnie. They knew all along it was somebody else and did the fake killing to set up the bad guy. Now together they have to take down their fellow evil DEA officer who was so greedy he wanted to keep all the loot for himself. DUMB DUMB DA DUMB DUMB!
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July 25, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST
In other news, if you want to talk about other news, you should be somewhere else.
by Fries Against
We're trying to talk about how bad McG's Terminator sucked. Keep your current events comments in your butthole.
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A bunch of basement dwelling dickheads commenting negatively on successful people. This place is so full of fail..
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July 25, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST
If they're saying outright that it's based on TEN LITTLE INDIANS, doesn't that give away the ending?
by CountryBoy
Assuming people know the ending, that is. And assuming "a sort of variation on" means "based on."
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July 25, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST
In other news, I loved the helicopter crash and the Harvester/motorcycle chase in T4.
by CountryBoy
I think McG just needs a decent script.
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It might still be the loudest movie I've ever seen.
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Oh yeah, him. I remember, barely. *frrt
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are the most under-rated action movies of all-time. I hate all you haters. I want to piss in your cereal.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None
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Sure it's got some problems. What doesn't thought? However as a big entertaining terminator world set film. I enjoyed it the few times I watched it.
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I am another one who will go back to hiding in a corner . cause I liked it as well. Much better than three.
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July 25, 2012, 9:55 p.m. CST
Salvation respected its source material more than TDKR did
by Humie Bubbie
It had problems, but it was a decent action flick that for the most part respected the previous three flicks and fit in.
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July 25, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST
The problem about Terminator 4 is that every other Terminator movie is about...
by JohnWayneWasGay
John Connor and Skynet,Terminator 4 wanders off on a 2 hour tangent about some dude on death row who was never part of the the history of the series who ends up being made into a human/terminator hybrid.John Connor is in the movie for about 5 fucking minutes.Its a movie about a Terminator.
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July 25, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST
Fine, he's kind of a forgettable actor so maybe he'll be there and make Arnold look good and more charismatic.
by DarthBlart
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The heroine would not turn so soon...like Anakin in SW3. Just bad story telling and stupid turns.
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While T3 and Salvation didn't live up to the greatness of the first two, they are still entertaining and worth owning. They certainly didn't piss on the first two terminator films like say some of the later Apes films and Tim Burton's remake did to the first two Planet of the Apes. T3 and Salvation also felt more consistently alined with T1 and T2 than say Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection did in comparison with Alien and Aliens. The last two Terminator sequels, if anything played it a bit safe in comparison to crazy ballsy *let's kill everyone off* attitude of Alien 3. I am also glad that T3 and Salvation (TS) were nothing like the kick in the nuts that a sequel like Highlander II: The Quickening was. I suppose I'd rank T3 and TS on a similar level to that of the two Jurassic Park sequels. Fun, but also flawed and not the classic that the original film was. T2 was that rare sequel that IMO didn't exactly reach the same level that the original The Terminator did, but at the end of the day is so damn good it is pointless to get worked up about it. The Sarah Connor Chronicles was good too. When I first heard about it I thought it sounded like a shitty idea and direction to take the Terminator series. The show really surprised me though. Lena Headey held her own as a slightly different but still fascinating Sarah Connor. It sucks that they weren't able to finish out the series with a third season, or move to a different network.
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I guess you could say this one has grown on me over the years. When I first saw it I thought it was okay, fun but not as great as it should have been. The ending makes up for a lot of the film's missteps in getting there. T3 definitely felt like a retread in some ways of T2. Sort of like a T2 Greatest Hits album really. The T-X was a formidable ally, but maybe a bit too much like a supervillain (even her sexy red skin-tight outfit feels like something out of a superhero comic book). The third film also felt a bit too light, literally, as a lot of it took place in bright daylight in comparison to the darker and moodier style of the first two films. This bright light daytime setting also added to T3's comic book movie quality. Then of course you have a good deal of comic relief and one-liners for Arnold. Not that those are bad, but when the film is already a bit on the bright and fluffy side for a Terminator movie, it does grate a bit. It isn't the end of the world, no pun intended, but it is very noticeable in comparison to the other two. Still though, T3 had some damn good action set pieces, and it was a lot of fun seeing Arnold back in his iconic role again after a series of lesser action films during the 90's after True Lies. The T-X/Terminatrix was played well by Kristanna Loken. She played it a bit colder than Robert Patrick's T1000. I think that is interesting as she wasn't so much a chameleon like the T1000, even though she had some similar abilities. The future war scene at the beginning was great up until the truly awful old man John Connor make up on Nick Stahl. If you ever need to see some old man makeup that is even worse than the old man Weyland we saw in Prometheus, this opening scene to Terminator 3 is that scene. Thankfully it is over quickly and we get into the meat of the story.
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This one is an odd bird. On one hand I think I like it better than Terminator 3, as it wasn't specifically a T2 Greatest Hits movie (although the main plot points are very similar to the previous three films' to an almost formulaic level). So while I appreciate that they tried to make a Terminator film set in the future after Judgment Day, and didn't rely on Arnold starring in it as a crutch, there are points along the way that make me wonder if McG and his crew really understand the whole Terminator series much at all. The focus on Sam Worthington's Marcus wasn't a massive mistake, but I can't help but feel it was the first big misstep that this film made. Now, I actually don't have a problem with Worthington. No, my problem is that we finally get to the point where we can have a John Connor and Kyle Reese awkward father-son story amidst a dark sci-fi war backdrop. What we get instead is pretty much another Terminator on the run protecting a kid (this time a young Kyle instead of young John), with the standard terminator chase movie structure. Connor is not really explored all that much for the marketing making such a big deal about Christian Bale playing him. I even remember hearing that John Connor wasn't even much of a part of the story until Bale came onboard and they beefed up his role. Oh, and John Connor is not even really that much of anything beyond a grunt in the resistance. I know that might be more realistic, but it robs the character of a lot of his mythic status as the first guy who rose up and showed all the survivors not only that it was possible to fight back, he also showed them how to do it. Remember, John actually had knowledge and experience in dealing with terminators. Not only that, but he did get some military training before Judgment Day and the war. Sarah also prepared stuff and showed him how to get ready for the apocalyptic years to come. I'm not saying John Connor becomes leader of humanity overnight, but just that he should have been one of the first guys to lead any sort of organized force against the machines of Skynet. Not be some browbeat little soldier who has to go through the standard hero's journey formula that Hollywood throws at every action or sci-fi film. The crux and also tragedy of John Connor is that he was never allowed to be regular kid. His fate wouldn't allow it. Okay, so I'll stop bitching about the film's main problems. There was stuff I really liked about this film too. The opening assault on the secret underground Skynet lab by Connor was good action. Especially his tangling with a determined T700 I believe. That was a good scene that brought back the feel of the terminator as a knife wielding monster originally envisioned by Cameron when he created The Terminator as a low budget almost exploitative horror movie concept. The ending action sequence was a lot of fun. Yeah, that T800 trying to kill Connor was a bit too tough even for a terminator, but I can live with that. They did a good job with the Arnold cameo that lead into the man versus terminator fight. Anton Yelchin also really surprised me with his excellent portrayal of a young Kyle Reese. Just as I thought no one could fill the shows of Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor before Lena Headey came along, so did I feel about someone replacing Michael Biehn as Reese. While Yelchin didn't surpass the original Biehn Reese, he did a great job and it just worked in the film. I didn't have any problems with Sam Worthington's Marcus, besides the fact that he was a bit too much of the focus instead of John and Kyle. The idea of a hybrid human/terminator as a more effective infiltration unit was a cool idea.I just didn't like that they gave him the goofy subplot with the Helena Bonham Carter character that then shows up later as a human face for Skynet. Not only is putting a human face on Skynet a bad idea IMO, it is a really lame move to do so to a character like Marcus, who is just a one-film character and that's it. If they were to ever show any humans getting into Skynet's inner sanctum and speaking or interacting with it like that, then that type of reveal should be saved for when John Connor finally breaches the Skynet HQ and goes into the innermost chamber to shut the while thing down. Overall though, I can't say it was a waste or a shitting on the franchise. I mean one does have to temper their expectations here. This is afterall a McG Terminator sequel. It isn't something on the same level of geekgasm as say Spielberg making an Indiana Jones sequel, or Sir Ridley returning to the Alienverse with Prometheus.
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July 26, 2012, 3:47 a.m. CST
Really,umm Sam Worthington wasn't really a Terminator,he never killed a human when he was machined up
by frank
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Sorry I actually enjoyed that movie. I don't get the rage and hate for it other then because of who directed it more so then the movie actually sucking. It was more entertaining then T3.
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July 26, 2012, 5:29 a.m. CST
How does Sam Worthington get work? He's a terrible actor! Worse than any action star of the 80's.
by V'Shael
He must suck unbelievably good cock.
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Will be interesting to see the Austrian Oak back on the big screen with "The Expendables 2" looming, and "The Tomb", but we shall see if this will be a crash and burn moment for the man. As for Mr. Worthington: I find him as about as appealing as the old-tart the afformentioned Schwarzenegger shacked up with. No appeal whatsoever. From the day he was heralded as the next Russell Crowe has now been producing nonsense like, "Man On A Ledge", and those god-awful "Titans" movies. Maybe one day he will find a director to give him a kick up the rectum, but until that happens, he will be mostly known as that guy who played the over-sized smurf, and contributed to plagarizing movies with the implementation of 3-D. Good luck, Sam.
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they were the two most recent adaptations of Ten Little "Indians", although of course as we all know "Indians" was not in the original title, a rather different word was. well, you lot all seemed to like Sam Worthington in that film with the blue people, Smurfs In Space or something, so perhaps he will work out just fine in this one.
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July 26, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST
countryboy, good point. As far as Identity yes and no.
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Without giving it away, I thought the idea of the patient's condition, and the ensuing deaths was original. Also, this movie had a great cast.
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Is almost like a spin-off movie. It includes John Connor and the Future War, but the movie focuses a lot on Worthington's character arc. They do a lot of one-off comics that give lesser characters their moment in the spot light. I think TS would have been better received if it was sold to the fans in this way. Yes, it forwards the main story arc some, but the main character is not John Connor. That would have set the stage for a series of movies set in the Future War era, each focusing on peripheral events as much as focusing on John Connor's story. They could still make this into a successful trilogy.
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Sure, it wasn't great, but in my eyes, no Terminator movie ever really was. The first one slightly brushes great, but I still can't understand whats so hot about T2. I mean, killer Cyborg gets nice and has a smart mouthed teenage sidekick. If that movie came out today, people would destroy it! Rightfully so.
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July 26, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST
Salvation failed because they gave us the Future ... Just not the future Cameron teased ... and thats what we wanted.
by GINGE_MUPPET
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