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Warner Brothers To Remove GANGSTER SQUAD Shooting Scene

Published at: July 23, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST by Nordling

Nordling here.

This was a tough call for Warner Brothers to make and I can't blame them in the slightest - GANGSTER SQUAD, which featured a movie theater shootout promiently in the film's trailer, will undergo edits to remove the scene from the film and any subsequent trailers, according to Variety.  The movie will have to undergo quick reshoots to change the movie, as the sequence was important to the story.

It is very likely that this will cause the film to be moved from its September 7th release date, and hopefully the movie will be able to work without the scene.  Ordinarily, I'm not for editing movies in this fashion in reaction to outside events, but in this case, I think it's appropriate.  I'm certain movie audiences at this juncture would not like to be subjected to a scene like this; at the very least, it would be considered in very bad taste.  Whether or not this affects the quality of the movie is of course for audiences and critics to judge upon release, and hopefully Ruben Fleischer's movie won't suffer too greatly due to this new edit.

EDIT: Many talkbackers (and Billy the Kidd) have said that it makes more sense to just move the movie a few months down the road.  That makes sense to me.  I don't think there will ever be a point where people won't be reminded of Aurora when it comes to this sequence, but perhaps when emotions aren't so high, the movie will play better to audiences.  It is a gangster movie, after all; people get shot in gangster movies.

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  • July 23, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST

    ???

    by The Infamous Billy The Kidd

    Why not just put the film on the shelf and push the release back when the wounds aren't so fresh?

  • July 23, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Nordling, I respectfully disagree

    by ultragoregrind

    I'm sorry, but this sort of reaction is in my opinion the worst course of action. Why should we all live in fear/cater to the 0.01% of the population that can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality?

  • July 23, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    You forgot "First" Kidd

    by UGG

  • July 23, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Why not remove every shooting from every film?

    by DOYLE1

  • July 23, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Life imitating art

    by oh_riginal

    I would rather that the release date just be moved a few months or more and the director's vision be maintained, but I understand the choice still. Imagine if this tragedy happened just before the release of Inglourious Basterds....

  • July 23, 2012, 3:19 p.m. CST

    This is "ET" all over again.

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

    One douchbag screws it up for everyone else.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    I hope

    by ultragoregrind

    ..someone manages to leak the original final cut of this film.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Rub out the guns and have the gangsters throw apples..

    by LeonardsBellbottoms

    ..or tomatoes in the 'bloody version'

  • July 23, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST

    I had to kill WB for making a mistake...

    by Dick Jones

    ...and that mistake being a decision like this. Complete and utter bullshit. Overreaction plain and simple.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    A dangerous precedent

    by tomdolan04

    but it's not really a precedent as this has been done before in light of other tragedies. <p> I don't blame WB in the slightest and ultimately, no matter the (often valid) arguments concerned regarding artistic integrity, a scene cut from one movie is small potatoes versus the death of those poor guys. Will cutting the scene help anything? No. Would cutting it stop the argument in some quarters that fictional violence inspires real life violence? Nope. <p> It's about respect. Though pushing the movie as the Kidd states would make more sense. This also seems like a Jan / Feb kinda movie also.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Let's just never make movies again

    by Thomas

    I understand the concern, but still i call bullshit.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    This is dumb

    by SenatorJeffersonSmith

    Talk about bending to pressure. Those pussies at WB shouldn't get to make movies if the second something becomes controversial they piss themselves and change it. Why not pull Inglorious Basterds from Netflix and store shelves? Jesus Christ. People are way too sensitive about this shit. It's a fucking movie. And it deals with gangsters: an arena where shit like this actually happened. Give me a fucking break

  • July 23, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Bullshit

    by smallfry

    I keep hearing reports about the victims along the lines of 'films were his life, he loved the movies' etc. would these people want to see a film reshot in a manner that the director didn't intend? It's insensitive to the people who died to reshoot it. Removing that scene is like trying to pretend it didnt happen which is far more disrespectful to the victims than leaving it in. Another example of the pathetic reactionary would we live in.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    So instead of shooting up a movie theater

    by eric haislar

    they will shoot up something else. Sucks they are doing it but it can't change the film that much.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Lame.

    by Engelhast

    They honestly should just leave it the way it is and put it on the shelf for awhile until things cool down. It’s a period movie…its not like it is going to get dated or anything if they squirrel it away for awhile.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST

    and 3-5 years from now, there will be a movie about this...

    by Darth Saruman

    where a guy shoots up a movie....done in tasteful slow-mo of course.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Good Intentions But Dumb Idea

    by theeternalhipster

    How many people "directly" affected by the tragedy intend to go see a movie like this anyway? I'd say probably very few. Why not take a poll in the city of Aurora? And a poll in a city like.. I dont know some place as far from Colorado as possible. The people least affected by the tragedy should not be punished because of one lunatic. Come on. Most people are just watching this on the news and can handle a little violence and wont be emotionally overcome by gangsters shooting up a movie theater. I understand the gesture but it's an empty gesture that caters to people who won't go see the movie anyway. Plus I'm betting that the good guys win in this movie. And what better way to cleanse our emotions from this terrible tragedy than watching the bad guys get beat.

  • These crimes directly involved the movie theater experience - something that 9/11 or Columbine didn't do. I think WB is correct in assuming that audience members would be uncomfortable in a way that would effect their view of WB as a company and could even negatively effect box office. WB is in a tough spot here - rightly or wrongly, TDKR will always be associated with this event. I'm not sure that I will want to be sitting in a theater in September watching a film with a movie theater massacre depicted in it.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Oh and thank God..

    by theeternalhipster

    Oh and thank God they haven't decided to cut anything out of "The Dark Knight Rises"

  • July 23, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I hope

    by macrat84

    we get to see the original cut on the Blu-Ray release. I understand, but am not supportive of, the "Why"

  • no doubt the theater shootout will be on the dvd. Murders and other sick acts are portrayed in movies that happen and destroy families and communities all the time but never gain national or world wide attention. Filmmakers and studios know this yet continue to show them without alterations.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST

    We live in a nation of pussys...

    by AnarchyWorldsEnd

    Guess what, any of us can die at any moment from a crazy killer or an infected burrito. Americans obsession with feeling safe within a controlled environment has destroyed the pioneering spirit of this country. Lets not do anything dangerous, ever. Let's not be reminded of tragedies by any sounds or imagery. Lets all live in little plastic bubbles of security and banality. Jesus Fucking Christ...

  • July 23, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Is Spielberg gonna reshoot the final scene in LINCOLN?

    by No Respectable Gentleman

    Damn insensitive if he doesn't.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Not the first time something like this happened.......

    by thelordofhell

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-r7qymfa0Q

  • July 23, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Well I guess the Joker was right...

    by Andrew Coleman

    All you have to do is do something that isn't part of the plan. 12 soldiers die in Afghanistan and people could give a shit. Now this happens and suddenly a movie theater is something people have to walk on egg shells about. That scene in that movie is what sold me! It looked amazing! Now I will boycott this film until the scene is put back in. America has been taken over by fucking pussies. That one stupid movie changes its name from "Neighborhood Watch" to just "The Watch" because some idiot fuck would be like "Is that a comedy about Trevon Martin?".... Why in the fuck do we keep pandering to morons. If you can't watch a movie without freaking out about an event that happened in real life you are a child or a fucking idiot. We need to stop this. I was so pumped to see this movie until now. Pathetic.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST

    It's not appropriate to remove the scene

    by GiggityGoo

    Yes, what happened in CO was an utter tragedy, but "Gangster Squad" had nothing to do with it. This is another emotional, reactionary backpedal that's not in the best interests of the people whose work is being gutted. I guess we should delay releasing Zemeckis' "Flight", seeing as how it's got a plane crash in it, and we don't want to upset the people who've dealt with the aftermath of plane accidents.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    We don't need anti-gun laws...

    by zer0cool2k2

    The mass shooting in Colorado Springs at New Life Church in 2007 was stopped by a citizen hero, Jeanne Assam, because she was armed and shot back — saving hundrds of lives. What we do need is a way to network the ammunition suppliers (like they do with pharmacies), so anyone ordering mass quantities of ammo would set off a flag, even from different vendors. And we need to stop turning these assholes into celebrities. Catch them, drop them in a hole, add gasoline and a match and never mention them again. Keep their names out of the headlines, and don't give them the satisfaction they are seeking.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    B.S.

    by andrew james

    why don't people stop associating movie violence with real world violence? Why don't people instead start worrying about the mental health issues in this country? Why not focus on repealing the 2nd amendment instead???

  • July 23, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Chill out, it's just a movie. Movies get edited. Move on.

    by FilmBuf82

    I totally understand why this has to happen. The majority of the movie-going audience aren't "geeks" like us. We are the minority. We aren't catered too. This transcends "work being gutted." It's not about "work." It's about being emotionally sensitive. And let's be honest, the movie may not even be that good. Wait and see if the rest of the movie is good, then we can complain about it later.

  • This is all stupid.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I don't blame them

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    It's a business decision. They don't want negative publicity referring to their movie as "that film with the movie theater shoot-out" Re-shoot the scene in a different setting, marketing problem solved.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Betcha in 5 years they make a movie about Aurora shootings...

    by truedog67

    Then the producers of this will kick their own ass, especially if it affects the quality of their film. Agree with the kid... let people heal... keep it in the film.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    @ajh688

    by HarveyManfrenjenson

    "Why don't people start worrying about mental health issues?" Your comment would only make sense if the shooter had sought psychiatric treatment (or if someone had sought it on his behalf) and it hadn't been available. As far as I know this wasn't the case. Not clear how "worrying about mental health" would have changed the outcome here.

  • July 23, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Some necessary perspective...

    by Immortal_Fish

    What happened in CO is tragic. There were twice as many deaths this month alone in Chicago at the hands of REAL gangster squads. And that's only so far, as in, this month ain't over yet. Why does what happened in CO one time trump what keeps happening each and every month in IL?

  • July 23, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Delay the film, keep the scene.

    by MovieManStill

    Good grief, have we become this "delicate"? Are we a bunch of "teary-eyed" idiots? Did WW2 and Vietnam stop war movies? Etc. etc. My God, get us all a baby-sitter.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST

    It's Meant Well But Achieves Nothing

    by SonOfChiba

    I never understand this kind of move. Censoring films is not the answer to a tragedy like this. Try tackling how a fucking nut job like Holmes managed to amass a huge armory instead.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST

    No Respectable

    by MovieManStill

    THANK YOU!

  • July 23, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Just ban..

    by MrDark

    everything. No one should ever get to leave their home or you'll be immediately put to death. Also, while you're in your home you cannot read/write/think/use your imagination in the slightest, or you might figure out a way to hurt someone.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    I call BS...

    by R L

    Completely over-reacting crap. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST

    YOU GUTLESS SONS OF BITCHES

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Just push the release date back six months, don't mutilate a director's vision due to circumstances beyond his control. I have a literal FETISH for tommy-gun scenes in movies, and if I'm denied an awesome-looking one due to the Dark Knight incident, I will be fucking INFURIATED. The Blu-Ray better have the intact scene included via seamless branching.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Yet another stupid knee jerk reaction.

    by Saltoner

  • July 23, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Does anyone still remember the end of Inglorious Basterds?

    by Kyle DeMattio

    Where all those Nazi people got shot down in the theater, surrounded by smoke and fire, just before it exploded? Imagine if that film came out next month instead of 3 years earlier. And that particular scene was the climax.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST

    It serves two purposes

    by Travis Hamer

    It's a matter of respect for the victims and their families, and for the community of Aurora, where I live. I appreciate it. I enjoyed the scene in the trailer, before Friday. Now I don't want to see it. Now it makes me sick. I could have been at that theater with my son. I don't want to be reminded of that while trying to be entertained. It's a nice gesture. Also, it makes sense from a marketing sense, as the scene would harm the movie's potential in the current environment. Shelving the movie is another reasonable option. Right now, I'm not sure when I'm going to a movie theater again. Those victims could have been my kids.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST

    WB just push back the release date.

    by adeceasedfan

    And while you're at it, see what Channing's schedule looks like.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Re: kildeer1

    by Chris

    Norway has some of the strictest gun laws in the world, but there was still a massacre there just about a year ago. By definition, gun laws only affect law abiding citizens. A criminal or lunatic will figure out a way to hurt or kill large numbers of people if they want to. I also think WB is overreacting and that in few years there will (not might) be a movie about this horrific crime.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST

    It's gonna get Worse before it gets Better for Warner Bros.

    by Kyle DeMattio

  • John Wilkes Boom.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST

    I DISAGREE...

    by abesapien

    What happened was a terrible tragedy but we need to start seperating fact from fiction no matter how much art imitates life. People get shot and mugged on the streets in the US everyday but this doesn't mean that we should censor that sort of violence in films. Also this sort of behaviour will encourage other thugs- showing them that all they have to do to make a name for themselves is kill a few people at a blockbuster movie and they'll become media sensations with the power to make film studios withdraw their films from release and censor them.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST

    BULLSHIT...

    by Johnny Wrong

    ...fucking knee-jerk bullshit!

  • July 23, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST

    The change in the trailer is fine the movie is wrong.

    by spike0037

    Every time there is a big tragedy there is this reaction of what can we do to make everyone fell better. We have to be sensitive. No we should change it, by removing that this ASSHAT will not just be connected to THE DARK KNIGHT RISES but GANGSTER SQUAD. OH WAIT THE DARK KNIGHT RISES has a scene with the BANE character blowing up a stadium we have to change that.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Those of you calling WB cowardly / knee-jerk, etc

    by impetus

    Easy for you to say, speaking from a position of safety. You aren't the ones who'd have to endure the absolute shitstorm that would follow if they did release the movie as-is. But if this really is going back to the editing bay, there are better ways to fix the movie. Like digitally erasing Sean Penn, for example.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Changing it means that asshole wins

    by Papa

    Changing a movie because of that asshole's actions gives him the credence he desired Hemingway’s Foyer – Your Last Place To Be A Man www.hemingwaysfoyer.com

  • This guy will get the death penalty, And if he is ever in general population he will be dead inside of a month. It is terrible what happened.

  • It's a terrible event to be sure, but terrible events happen everyday. We keep going. That's what we do.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Let's remove the gunplay from Expendables 2 as well

    by Logan_1973

    The Kidd nailed it...just shelve the film for a year. It's not like it doesn't happen all time. Cabin in the Woods, anyone?

  • July 23, 2012, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Filmbuf82 (and others)

    by mossad77

    Chill out? Move on? And you call yourself a filmbuff??? It's not being 'emotionally sensitive'.....it's about money for WB, nothing more. And yes, movies get edited, but not normally for stupid reasons like this. This IS a movie website right? Because I'm seeing more and more people acting like they're too cool for school, telling people to 'get a life' almost for using words like 'joy' about films. YEAH, watching films brings us joy! If that's wrong, what 'should' bring us joy..........? Let me guess, you'll bring out trite things like 'having children!' Some of you will mean that, some of you will be saying it because that's what we're led to believe we want out of life. What of people who don't want kids, or who can't have them? My point is, life is short ; and we should live it doing things we LIKE to do. If we like sitting in a darkened theatre, being taken to places we might otherwise never go, who are you (you know who you are) to say we are wasting our time, or that our definition of the word 'joy' is in some way skewed??? Especially on a website devoted to that pastime! So really, if you're too cool for school, you like movies, but you're not 'obsessed' by them as you would label the rest of us......why bother coming here? Sorry for the tangential rant. But there was post after post on the 'please go to a movie this weekend' article that was nothing but the smuggest 'oh get a life movies aren't everything' bullshit. And I say bullshit because we're here to talk MOVIES - not golf, pie, war, the financial crisis, how wonderful babies are, or whatever those TB'ers would rather we discuss! Rant over!

  • July 23, 2012, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Use CGI to turn the guns into flashlights

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

  • on the south side of Chicago murders happen all the time and nobody gives a fuck.

  • Cabin in the Woods is a movie no one wanted to release...until they realized the buzz Joss Whedon got from The Avengers. Collateral Damage had a building blown up by terrorists and Big Trouble had a bomb on a plane. Both were supposed to come out in 2001, after 9/11 but had their release dates moved.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST

    @impetus Wrong Wrong Wrong

    by spike0037

    So just because some ass did something dumb we have to get all sensitive. What happened to this contrary. We would never change they way we live because of some guy like this 20 years ago. Remember 9/11 they changed movies that were filmed in NYC already and digitally removed the towers. Was that right. NO it was not being sensitive it was a screw you to New York it said well the bad guys won. What if they do that with all of the movie filmed in NYC form the past 50 years.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST

    They're actually adding more Tatum.

    by Humie Bubbie

    Looked like an interesting and climactic scene. I get it, but changing the film won't change history and in the time it takes them to round up all the actors and get it done, the film will have been delayed long enough that it'll be acceptable again.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Come on guys, it's unavoidable

    by Blarg Barfington

    There is no way in hell WB will release the movie with that scene intact in theaters. In this year or any other. Your bleeding manginas can relax because I'm sure there will be a director's cut in a couple of yearfs that restores it. Sometimes you geeks have no fucking sensitivity. This would be like a film that features a plane flying into a skyscraper a month after 9/11.

  • July 23, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Mossad77 : You Got To Be Cool To Be Kind

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Oh, I can't take another heartache Though you say oh my friend, I'm at my wit's end You say your movie love is bonafide, but that don't coincide With the things that you do and when I ask you to be nice You say you've got to be... CHORUS: Cool to be kind in the right measure Cool to be kind it's a very good sign Cool to be kind means that I love you Baby, got to be cruel, you got to be cool to be kind Now why the hell did I think of this old song when I read your post? I agree with ya. The joy I got going into that dark theater with Paul Reubens....

  • July 23, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Please, stop all of this pandering BS.

    by Fett8802

    If I were to die in a shootout, or terrorist attack, or whatever, I would NOT WANT MY DEATH to effect anything like this in the slightest. I do not feel like releasing the movie on schedule, as is, is in anyway bad or in bad taste or anything of the sort. Nothing had to do with the shooting besides a deranged individual. Stop all this pandering shit and just release stuff. I have cancer (Leukemia) and I hope that in the event it kills me, that my family doesn't suddenly start hating on everything and everyone that has the slightest to do with cancer or leukemia. For heaven's sakes, thousands and thousands of people of cancer every year and 50/50 still came out. The C Word still plays on Showtime. Why don't we suddenly start pandering to cancer patients? Yes, the event was tragic and I feel for every family member involved, but there's absolutely no reason for all this pandering. Frankly, it's insulting to the survivors and the families of the dead. If I had been killed there, I would be insulted by this move.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    art123guy, but neither Collateral Damage or Big Trouble were EDITED due to 9/11

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    At least to my knowledge, while both films were delayed by half-a-year apiece, neither one had major surgery done to remove/reshoot major sequences. I'd rather wait until next March/April to see the fully untouched Gangster Squad than see it in September with a clumsilly-inserted alternate climax (with actors who barely match how they appear in the rest of the film, due to being yanked off of other movies they're currently shooting). Warner Bros. might get a few PC "brownie points" for removing the movie theater shootout, but they'll LOSE money in the long run by spending a couple additional millions for the reshoots and whipping up a ton of new prints with the alternate scenes. Sad to say, but six months from now, no one aside from those directly affected by the shootings will give a shit...there'll be some other mass shooting or tsunami or other newsworthy disaster to occupy everyone's attention.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    ???

    by omar qadri

    Its really uncomfortable when life starts to replicate art. But yeah just move the film down the road when the wounds have been hopefully healed.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    I hold deep respect for the familys but...

    by Josh

    w/e. that's all, it's a completely different movie it was a key part of the film. What are they going to shoot up now a barn. LMFAO. Just because one tragic event happen has to screw up an entire film well thats what happens always.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Soultion: digitally add Hitler to the crowd

    by daggor

    Killing Hitler is always A-OK.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST

    You've just lost my ticket, WB

    by 11dayempire

    I refuse to see a bowdlerised version of the film.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    BOOOO!!!

    by Raymar

    SHAME, WB.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST

    @xombygodd

    by HarveyManfrenjenson

    For the record, others *were* able to carry guns. Colorado allows concealed-carry permits. But shooting back would have been almost certainly ineffective under these circumstances (shooter had full body armor/helmet/gas mask and had set off a smoke bomb in a crowded theater).

  • July 23, 2012, 5:16 p.m. CST

    When will people learn that movies is a business. It's not art.

    by Executor

    There is no "director's vision" for Gangster Squad, it's a movie whose goal for WB is one thing: to make money. People were scrambling to digitally erase the Twin Towers from movie skylines after 911...you don't think a movie massacre isn't going to change a movie massacre scene? By keeping that scene in, the studio risks alienating potential viewers because of the content as well as (and probably more importantly) because of the bad press they will get when the movie comes out and reviewers/bloggers comment endlessly on the comparisons between that scene and Aurora. Plus by tweaking the movie, they get endless positive PR by everyone reporting on this change. (p.s. I personally think it's much ado over nothing...especially considering the movie looks like a warmed over Untouchables/Mulholland Falls baby and is probably going to fall flat either way.)

  • July 23, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Just CGI bright orange tips on the gun nozzles.

    by otm shank

    That way they can't be mistaken for real guns.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Wrong, wrong, wrong!

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Stop being so scared, America! Those cunts win every time you do something reactionary like this.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Ok WB, this is getting out of control!

    by Darth_Kaos

    I understand, out of respect of the victims of Aurora (BTW- I was raised in Aurora, CO) for TDKR (Nixing premires, promotion, trailers), but come on! This movie has no association at all to the tragedy. I think WB and the industry is getting a little to PC regarding this issue. For fuck sake, TDKR (or WB) was the reason that fuckhead did what he did. If it wasn't TDKR, it would have been something else. Can we be adults here, for once. Fuck!

  • July 23, 2012, 5:21 p.m. CST

    ooops, I meant to say "was not the reason"

    by Darth_Kaos

  • July 23, 2012, 5:21 p.m. CST

    blarg_barfington

    by mossad77

    Nonsense. 'You geeks have no sensitivity'.........so, you don't consider yourself a geek? How is this like 9/11? I mean, I hate to be insensitive, but as horrible as this is, it's one town in America. When the Beslan siege went horribly wrong in Russia, do you think any Americans were or would have been horrified by scenes in movies that were remotely similar? Were you so upset? Did you even know? Did 24 suddenly shy away from anything that might remind people of it? Please! When Gone Baby Gone came out, it was delayed for 6 months in the UK because of a child that had gone missing, and so the whole film was in some way deemed too upsetting.....nevertheless it WAS released. Yet you suggest people will 'never' be up to watching this scene. What about Tarantinos Basterds? Is that unwatchable now? Spare me your armchair sentiment, your piety.

  • Even though they aren't.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST

    CALLED IT!

    by Jarrete Barnett

    Knew they would pull it. But I agree, it would be better to just push the release date back rather than alter the movie in any way. Everybody has this Holmes prick to thank for ruining not only lives, but peoples' movie-going experience, in everyway.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Here's the answer....

    by zastrow

    Digitally replace the guns with walkie talkies!

  • July 23, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST

    No No No NO No NO no No

    by MainMan2001

    This should not happen! Guess who wins?

  • because they both had guns and trenchcoats? I think Matrix came out early 1999 and Columbine happened RIGHT after (within a few weeks I think).

  • July 23, 2012, 5:26 p.m. CST

    nasty in the pasty, I agree with you...my comment

    by art123guy

    was really only for logan_1973's post. Instead of: The Kidd nailed it...just shelve the film for a year. It's not like it doesn't happen all time. Cabin in the Woods, anyone? My thought was he should have said: The Kidd nailed it...just shelve the film for a year. It's not like it doesn't happen all time. Collateral Damage and Big Trouble, anyone? More recently, Neighborhood Watch was changed to The Watch. Anyone remember when people were offended by the title, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers and wanted it changed because of 9/11? Didn't Idle Hands get a later release because of Columbine? In the end, I agree it shouldn't be edited. It's a knee jerk reaction. Now, if it was a scene where a maniac shoots up a movie theater full of innocent people set in the present, then I'd understand.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST

    99.99% of us can deal with a shootout scene...

    by Erik Radvon

    and not commit murder. Why is WB spending millions of dollars to appease the 0.01% of fucktards like the Ronald McDonald looking shooter kid? If I was the director of Gangster Squad, I would be pissed beyond belief. Why should a fictional story be changed because of some bullshit that is currently bubbling up in the 24 hour news cycle? People get shot everyday. 12 people probably died in Afghanistan while I was typing this. The Aurora event had nothing to do with Batman, movies, violence, Halo 3, or the fucking trailer for Gangster Squad. It had to do with a nutjob being a nut, and that's the extent of it. What do people think, that if Gangster Squad got released with that scene, the world would suddenly end? Armed gunmen would storm every movie theater in the world? It's just pathetic to see how our society "copes" with disasters.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Whatever happened to test screenings?...

    by Terry Powell

    ...y'know, for some of you demanding that Warners not do this as if it's your right to see the scene, fuck you, you didn't finance the movie, it's Warners to do what they want with it. But whatever happend to test screenings? Have some groups watch the movie and see if the scene offends or bothers anyone. they can do it right here(I live in Aurora Co, about two miles from the theater, if fact yesterday I had to go to Jared's to pick up a wedding band, it's across from the aurora mall and all the media vans are STILL there!). Y'know, they have altered films for years based on screenings, so why not? If nothing else, if I were Warners, I'd have a screening and fudge the results so It would look like I were only doing the wishes of the audience. As I said, I live here, and I don't have a problem with it. Of course, I wasn't in that theater, didn't have any friends or loved ones hurt or killed. What does piss me off is whenever I read or heard some asshole saying that if only someone was armed, things would be very different. How the fuck do you know? The concealed weapon holder could be a chickenshit, or just could freeze up, you don't know. If you've ever fired a handgun(since I assume that you're not talking about a rifle) and having been in the military, I have, then you know that it is very hard to be accurate with one. Add to that, loud action movie, gas bombs going off, people screaming and running in your way, and a lunatic firing weapons into the crownd(and at you), yet people seem to think they would be like BruceWillis if they were there. Yes, it is possible that if someone had been armed that they could have taken the scumbag out. But it is more likely that they would have killed someone else, someone who may have survived if it had not been for the concealed weapon holder. So quit bringing this up as if it were a fact.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST

    @radvon4realz

    by Jarrete Barnett

    Exactly. Unless they're directly involved with this incident, they "can't cope". People prefer to think they have no realistic coping mechanisms. Just my thoughts.

  • July 23, 2012, 5:39 p.m. CST

    A perfect example of why a streaming-only future is dangerous..

    by Lao_Che_Air_Freight

    One copycat, and whoosh, there goes a movie, courtesy of your local nutcase and some yellow studio execs.

  • Fuck political correctness. I guess Hollywood should just take all scenes of anyone being shot out of all movies.

  • July 23, 2012, 6 p.m. CST

    What happened was an awful tragedy, but...

    by DrMurdock

    This just seems like a bit of a knee jerk reaction. The movie was made before what happened at the weekend. By the same logic any film with a rape scene in it should be re edited and shot because that has also happened in the real world. A friend of mine isn't keen on seeing violence in films, especially the gratuitous kind. After seeing The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, we had a conversation where he felt the rape scene wasn't necessary, at least not necessary in how graphic it was. But my argument is that rape happens, it's a horrible, unforgivable act, and why should that be tackled any less than any other subject in cinema. Now I'm not suggesting for a second that these are correlating subject matters, they are not, but Aurora aside, people get shot, people get murdered, injured, mugged, assaulted this all happens in the real world and all SHOULD be tackled in cinema and literature. It doesn't mean you have to accept a quasi responsibility for the actions of one unhinged individual. Unrelated matters, delay its release by 6 months if necessary. Sorry if this comes off as insensitive in anyway to anyone, it's not my intention. I was horrified by what happened, but it feels like blame is being put in the wrong places with all of this.

  • July 23, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST

    I'm sure it will be put on the BLU RAY

    by Jake Pantlin

    I can't blame them for this. This is a wise call. it could really upset people to see this scene right now, especially on a WB movie. They will probably put it on the BLU RAy as an extra or something.

  • July 23, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Knee jerking pansies

    by Paul Paradis

    Nothing worse than the time out generation, or the Obama stooges.

  • July 23, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    So...we're back in the 90's/early 2000's again?

    by Lord Elric

    Seriously. you don't screw your art because of real life. If it's THAT bad, and I haven't heard a peep about anyone calling for the movie to be banned or anything, then just push back the release. Doing something like this only brings more attention and exacerbates everything. You never let the bad guys in the world win. Never.

  • July 23, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST

    no better then the tsa

    by Creative

  • July 23, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST

    ***comes

    by Creative

  • July 23, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST

    fascism plain and simple

    by Creative

  • July 23, 2012, 6:45 p.m. CST

    that's retarded

    by highlander2sucks

    Yeah to edit a movie due to this tragedy is comprising the artistic creativity, yeah I'm thinking this movie will bomb

  • July 23, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST

    art123guy RE Cabin

    by Logan_1973

    Cabin in the Woods was held up because of the MGM bankruptcy. Either way, my point was, Cabin AND and the films you mentioned all still enjoyed decent success even after the shelving. So shelving Gangster Squad for a while isn't exactly a death sentence.

  • Anyone remember the first season premiere of 24? With the plane blowing up right in the beginning? And it was supposed to debut less than two months after 9/11 when the WHOLE COUNTRY was still on edge? They delayed it one week: from Oct. 30th to Nov. 6th and it was no big deal. That was much worse than this.

  • Some of you live in such a tiny bubble of elitism.

  • July 23, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Business is business

    by John Fasano

    I would imagine right now Warner Brothers has more concerned than that TDKR didn't beat the Avengers -- think f every survivor of that screening (and the people in the next theater ho has rounds come through the wall) SUING Warner Brothers. FOr what, you ask? What did WB have to do with it? Nothing. But this is the country where they INVENTED the frivolous lawsuit. There are SO MANY lawyers (almost enough to have one for each family in the country) that you could find any number that would LOVE to take this lawsuit for 1/3 percent of the settlement. Its a fact that a movie company can't release a film with an active suit against it -- that means no Blu-Ray for Christmas if anyone is suing them over TDKR. So they'll be settling -- tossing out cash to anyone who sues them -- any victim family member. This event is going to cost them far more than any profit they would have seen from the film (remember - the studio only get 1/2 the worldwide gross, and then has to pay the stars and directors bonuses first) And the suits SHOULD be filed -- against the theater AND WB -- and let the courts decide if they had any culpability. One lesson: the more you make something an "event" the more people want to be linked to it -- from the kids showing up in costume to this sick fuck shooter.

  • July 23, 2012, 7:09 p.m. CST

    And for those crying about "artistic creativity"...

    by Executor

    Don't you think the studio has given a million notes along the way? Do you think this script was filmed and edited just as the initial script pages popped out of the computer? No. Compromises and impositions are made every step of the way before shooting. Then the movie is screened for execs and more editing is needed. More tweaks. Sometimes entire scenes and subplots are excised (see: The Amazing Spider-Man). So just because they've decided to edit one more scene is not a slap in the face of a "director's vision" that does not exist, nor is it a sad day for America. It's just another decision by a company (that you have nothing to do with) for their product. Deal with it. Any while you're doing that, maybe watch the news and gain some empathy for what happened in Aurora and invest some energy in that instead of just crying about some tweaking of some shitty little movie that nobody will ever remember.

  • July 23, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Not sure I can agree with this move

    by Lucky13

    Get it out of the trailers, sure.... but this feels too artificial to me. Like suits sitting around a fancy conference table talking about the PR backlash vs ability to spin it. On the other hand, leaving it in would be crazy given the circumstances... I don't know... the timing on this must be one in a trillion. I'm glad I don't have to make the decision. There probably isn't a 'right' one.

  • July 23, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST

    fucking stupid

    by Waka_Flocka

  • July 23, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST

    killer_instinct : me don't think you know what fascism means

    by Obi Wanna Cannoli

    Oh what a minute! Sorry you are right. I just looked up the definition.... A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition by editing out scenes from movies. Those bastards!!!

  • July 23, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST

    This is a stupid idea and here's why...

    by vettebro

    Despite the senseless shooting that occurred last Friday, I decided to go and see TDKR last Saturday night anyway. My family and I agreed not to give into fear and live our lives. Obviously WB decided to continue to show TDKR as well. Here is my point. One of the shooting witnesses had described the exact moment in the film when that asswipe started shooting. While I was watching the film, that scene came up (there is plenty of shooting in the film) and it did have a impact on me. A chill ran down my spine. Despite this, WB continues to play the movie. So their decision to remove other scenes from other movies doesn't make any logical sense. Does it? If they are going to do that, why not remove the TDKR from the theaters too?

  • I could see where they would want to put cameras outside the fire exit doors, but I would think they would do that anyways in some cases to monitor if anyone is sneaking in.

  • Based on Hollywood's recent track record, this will probably amount to nothing more than slicing the dingleberry off a piece of shit. This has nothing to do with WB pussying out or cowtowing to political correctness and everything to do with minimizing potential bad publicity and maximizing prophets. Instead of bitching about the cut it in a geek echo chamber, why don't you picket the movie outside a theater when it comes out. Grow the fuck up. By the way, save your flaming retorts. It's clear you are all in agreement here so there's no point in the pile on.

  • And as far as "It's only 1 town in Colorado", 9/11 was only 2 buildings in New York. I'm sorry but NO STUDIO would release a scene of people getting blown away in a fucking movie theater right after people got blown away in a movie theater! Kinda falls into the FUCKING DUH catagory! And I said you pricks were being insensitive because you are putting artistic integrity of a film none of you have fucking seen ahead of the interespect for people that fucking DIED and their families! The world does exist outside your head you know.

  • July 23, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Pussies!!

    by Fries Against

    And why is it when AICN mentions the screenwriter of Gangster Squad they say it like we're supposed to give a shit?

  • July 23, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST

    theobserver...

    by vettebro

    I read an article this morning about just that...and how ticket prices would go up due to additional security measures. (Scanners, live bag checks etc...) Kiss freedom good bye. Let's all continue to embrace the soft tyranny of modern American life. Yayyyyyy!

  • July 23, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST

    And one other thing you people seem to be missing...

    by Blarg Barfington

    The studio doesn't want to appear to be PROFITING OFF THE VICTIMS! They don't want it to look like they are capitalizing on the event to make money off the controvercy. I mean, do you not have a fucking brain stalk?

  • July 23, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST

    I can already tell this guy is going to stink up the Justice League.

    by Fries Against

  • July 23, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST

    obiwanna

    by Blarg Barfington

    That was fucking classic dude, HA HA HA!

  • July 23, 2012, 7:31 p.m. CST

    I've seen the theater shootout scene...

    by TheyPeedOnYourFuckingRug

    ...and I'm not interested in seeing Gangster Squad without it. It's too important to the story, it's too damn cool a scene to drop, and it's too gutless of WB to do this.

  • July 23, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Uncut on bluray coming soon...

    by Kid Dynamite

    I can wait.... I don't go to the theaters as much as I should anyways...

  • July 23, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Utterly irrational response.

    by max

    People die by car accident every day,by gun shot,by war,by bombs,by knife,by bare hands,heart attacks,disease.If we proceed by this logic most movies need to be edited for sensitivity.But if u do feel this way in the u.s. please immeduately renounce your citizenship,proceed to your nearest airport,pick the country you most like and fly away.

  • July 23, 2012, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Let's just digitally alter Bane's face...

    by zer0cool2k2

    and have this asshat murderer's face in it's place when he gets the smack down put on him. (And that's not a spoiler the way I wrote it, does anyone expect TDKR to end with Bane winning?)

  • July 23, 2012, 7:46 p.m. CST

    uhhhhhhhh.

    by max

    they had no problem profitting of ledger's death.ROFL

  • Is it just me, or has Sean Penn gone full circle? His character in this film reminds me of the over-the-top surfer Jeff Spicolli from Fast Times At Ridgemont High. Penn should do a sequel/biopic on Spicolli. They could do a CGI'd young Spicolli using the same method that Tron Legacy used to de-age Jeff Bridges.

  • Exceptions might be something based on a long ago war, like a serious-minded World War II film, or something where it is humans blasting extraterrestrials or monsters, something like Aliens or Battle LA. Nothing like an Inception or Expendables type film though. It is just stupid from a business sense to pitch that kind of material for probably a few years.

  • July 23, 2012, 8 p.m. CST

    This is sooooooooo stupid

    by ajit maholtra

    If someone is too sensitive to see this scene, then they should just not watch the movie.

  • Stupid.

  • In addition to Superman and Avengers type fare, think stuff like Star Wars, Star Trek, Flash Gordon, old school Battlestar Galactica, and Halo. Maybe another go at Dune. Ridley Scott could do and awesome Dune, but it would probably mean he'd have to ditch his Blade Runner sequel (which is a shit idea to begin with if we are being honest here). The bottom line is we could use as much of the old big larger than life swashbuckling heroes fighting inhuman bad guys against an epic and colorfully fantastical backdrop.

  • July 23, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Oh please

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I have all the sympathy in the world for the victims in Aurora, and hope the worst for Holmes, but this is ridiculous.

  • So I say let the artists and storytellers of the world be not so much as strictly censored, but to rise to the occasion and try to think of new ways to thrill audiences without resorting to the cacophony of machine guns and grenades. We have been on this *make it gritty* kick for more than a decade. Films like Avatar and The Avengers show that we don't need everything to be gritty to be exciting.

  • Kinda like in Demolition Man where all their radio stations just played old commercial jingles but no real music. Unfortunately, my dream didn't reveal the true nature of the three sea shells.

  • July 23, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Boycotting this one.

    by Michael Thompson

    I was pleasantly surprised by the initial trailers. The studio folding due to some asshole evil actions and changing scenes of the film because it's seems the PC thing to do insults me. Fuck this film.

  • July 23, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST

    lv_426 you're being ridiculous

    by Queefer Sutherland

    There's room for every kind of movie. You don't stop making gangster films because some loony shot up a theater. That's just ludicrous. Instead you want us to remake a bunch of old films, and what, have thirty or forty Avatar sequels. By the way, Avatar had a bunch of shooting and dying, in case you didn't notice. Ditto the Avengers.

  • July 23, 2012, 8:35 p.m. CST

    They're changing the location to a daycare center.

    by Crooooooow

  • What I am saying is that the reality of Hollywood is that they will censor what kinds of films can be made (at least in terms of action, horror, sci-fi, comic book related stuff). All it will take is one big shot producer like a Bruckheimer to pitch some action flick to all the studios, where he is turned down because it has shootouts in it and the studio execs say they don't want to put that kind of imagery on screen. This news would then spread to all the other big shots and not so big shots trying to get films green lit in H-wood. The word would then be, *don't pitch contemporary action/adventure films or gritty sci-fi/action with violent shoot outs in them.* I'm not saying it is right, but it is probably the reality that writers and filmmakers are going to be facing in the coming year or so. All I am saying is that these limitations should be looked at as a reason for filmmakers to be more creative. Come up with new and inventive ways to excite and thrill audiences. It doesn't mean the censorship is right, but it won't change due to the people in power who hold all the money and control all the distribution channels for entertainment and storytelling getting to set those limitations.

  • July 23, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST

    i would be curious to hear what the filmmakers think about this

    by antonphd

    if they feel okay with keeping the sequence, then i think waiting on the release is probably the best idea but if they feel like the idea of shooting people in a theater is just too awful to have in a film that they have made after what happened, then i support their decision to remove it as for myself... i don't think i could watch the scene... i would wait to watch the movie at home and fast forward

  • July 23, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Was on the fence with this flick ...

    by DrMorbius

    but this decision 'seals the deal.' No thanks WB!!!

  • People booed, and some were like, "have some respect!" and shit like that. Probably in their best interest at this point.

  • July 23, 2012, 9:01 p.m. CST

    They took the twin towers out of the first Spider-Man film as well

    by I Max U Mini

    Sometimes good taste and civility win out over profits.

  • July 23, 2012, 9:03 p.m. CST

    THIS CHANGE STINKS OF REACTIONARY BULLSHIT

    by Mullah Omar

    Pushing back the release date makes more sense to me. This scene will get talked up and some people won't want to see it for now. Changing the entire plot and vision of the film to account for real-life events is stupid, however. Every weekend, there are new movies released hat feature scenes of violence and hate that mirror real-life events. What makes those less terrible for viewers than this particular event? There will likely be another awful event happening any day now that distracts everyone from this one. Eventually something much worse will happen and this story will end up in the back pages of the paper. You can't hide from awful events. The best solution I have is to build up a thick skin, simply keep living your life, and especially don't get dragged down by other peoples' problems. Back to films, has anyone ever heard of one of these reactionary changes actually improving the film? Is there evidence that the box office take ends up being better than if they'd left the film as its coherent original vision? Somehow I doubt that this sort of move ever succeeds on an artistic or financial level, but I'm interested in knowing if there is data for a counterargument.

  • July 23, 2012, 9:14 p.m. CST

    lv_426, I see what you mean, but I don't buy the premise

    by Queefer Sutherland

    If it will make money, they'll film it. Violent action films have been extremely popular, and I don't see that changing. Nothing changed radically after the Columbine killings. As soon as memory fades, we go back to our same old ways. I don't think it will ever happen the way you postulate. If I'm wrong, I'll eat the flesh off my left hand while it's still attached.

  • -- One Shot (book synopsis from Wikipedia): *In an innocent heartland city, five murders with six shots are done by an expert sniper. The police quickly identify and arrest a suspect, and build a slam-dunk case with iron-clad evidence. But the accused man claims he's innocent and says "Get Jack Reacher.". Reacher himself sees the news report and turns up in the city. The defense is immensely relieved; but Reacher has come to bury the guy. Shocked at the accused's request, Reacher sets out to confirm for himself the absolute certainty of the man's guilt, but comes up with more than he bargained for.* Jack Reacher is still currently set to release this coming December, but I will be surprised if it isn't pushed back.

  • July 23, 2012, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Not agreeing with this change but I understand it

    by YackBacker

    Yes, filmmaking is "art" but it's also show business. If the studio believes that scene will hurt its multi-million dollar investment, then they have the right to make this business decision. It's ridiculous that we can't watch that scene as a country without connecting it to current events (the media has nothing better to do than report on this shooting? okay...) but WB is skipping all of that and playing the PR angle in their short-term favor. If they replace it with a scene of the very fat Nick Nolte eating a live bear, I will be satisfied.

  • July 23, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST

    How about the scene in God Bless America?

    by Anthony Torchia

    maybe that film with its cinema killing inspired the whole thing dunno, Warner can do what it wants

  • July 23, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST

    yackbacker -- they could do a little homage to HEAT

    by lv_426

    Nick Nolte and Sean Penn sitting down for a cup of coffee.

  • July 23, 2012, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Lame

    by Nice Marmot

    First conclusion I jump to is that they're kind of using this tragedy as a marketing tool. Maybe I'm thinking too much . . .

  • July 23, 2012, 9:41 p.m. CST

    so essentially...terrorists will always win

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    blow up buildings, force little kids to be groped by tsa shoot a kid, change the title of a upcoming movie shoot up a theater, stop future movie theater shooting scenes from being shown... so... yay terrorism?

  • July 23, 2012, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Use CGI to change the guns to finger guns.

    by F-18

    Bullets shooting out of someone's finger. But seriously, editing out the scene is a stupid, knee-jerk reaction. I read about a car wreck that happened Sunday in Texas that killed 14 people. I guess studios are going to edit out car wrecks out of movies, too. You know, since people apparently can't separate real-life from fiction anymore.

  • July 23, 2012, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Stupid red-haired idiot is ruining film.

    by Bigdada

  • July 23, 2012, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Hang this fucker

    by Jimbo Jones

    We talk big, but if we were still hanging fuckers right after they do stuff like this? It wouldn't seem quite so glamorous. Now we see this asshat in court looking all spacy and you can already tell he's not going to get what is coming to him. And can we at least all agree to stop using the word alleged when a person obviously did it. Seriously. Rope. Tree. Gravity's a bitch.

  • Violent actions like the shooting massacre should be condemned, but not to the point that they ruin overwise good art.

  • July 23, 2012, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Suggestion

    by LethargicJ

    Instead of banning fake violence, why not ban the real violence? How is this scene in the movie worst than the news constantly keeping this guy's picture splattered all over every TV, paper, website, magazine, etc? All these knee jerk reactionary douche bags yank all this violence off, but yet they play that youtube video of people running out screaming, covered in blood a MILLION times. We are STUPID society. It's times like these that I'm very happy watching this country sink into the toilet. Burn this place down already and let's get it over with.

  • July 23, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    And....

    by LethargicJ

    There will never be a time that this scene won't remind people of Aurora?? I'd bet the vast majority of people would watch that movie TODAY and not care in the least. Most people aren't so stupid or hypersensitive to equate a 1940's gangster movie with some asshole with orange hair shooting a baby in real life. This is utter non-sense. It's only the minority who loses their shit over idiocy like this and for some reason it's always the rest of us who have to bend over backwards to satisfy their ridiculous complaints.

  • July 23, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST

    lv_426- How many movies have these two co-starred in? Yowzer!

    by YackBacker

    I think in some states Nolte and Penn are legally married.

  • July 23, 2012, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Why not edit the scene in TDK where Heath Ledger's body is in a bodybag?

    by Kyle DeMattio

  • July 23, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST

    If Jack Reacher is delayed because of this shooting, I'll eat my own dick.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I'll have to make two meals of it, due to its size. Unless one of you wants to join me?

  • July 23, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Not that I'd care. It's a terribly miscast film, and Cruise is a stupid midget.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    .

  • July 23, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST

    wyomingsonsabitches - hanging is too fast.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    They need to skin him alive, every last inch, and roll him in salt and cayenne pepper, then wrap him in barbed wire and roll him down a long, steep hill. If he survives that, they need to rape him with a wire brush until they pull his vital organs out of his ragged asshole.

  • July 23, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Really?! WTF!

    by skellington26

    Sadly, I was expecting that they do this. It's a fucking movie. Fiction. Personally, I do not see the need to censors films. They should be viewed as originally intended. If someone can't handle the edited scene or any other scene, film, show, etc., then simply don't watch or expose yourself to it. We should all be trusted to make our own choice rather than have one made for us.

  • maybe i should burn a building down with a zippo that i throw into the gasoline so i wont have to see that cliche ever again? hell, lets commit some reboot/remake crimes too and something criminal involving fox and mutant powers/sony and spider powers come on fellas! we have an oppurtunity to change hollywood!

  • July 23, 2012, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Another win for the terrorist(s).

    by onezeroone

    BTW, why is he not being called a terrorist? Would the reactions be same if he were a Muslim, or different race?

  • July 23, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST

    onezeroone, apparently you have to blow something up. Or kill more than a dozen.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Tim McVeigh was called a terrorist. That's if you're white. But yeah, if you're Muslim, you're a terrorist if you breathe.

  • I mean a film like this excites precisely because it is violent and crazy and sensational, which is exactly the qualities that drew the entire country to the story. 12 people die everyday. When it's a gun wielding maniac that does it, people perk up. I can understand that it is poor taste to remind people of this event so soon after, or seem to be profiting from it, but really we all seem a bit silly after a move like this, don't we? I mean we no longer feel it's ok to watch a part of simulated violence because that violent conceit actually came real; whereas other violent acts that we delight in seeing are ok, only because they haven't happened recently in our collective memory. Makes the whole genre feel like something dirty, which I think it is not. They should have had the balls to roll with the original shoot. People would've understood. It's a movie. You don't let's the terrorists win. You don't change a piece of entertainment to reflect shifting sensibilities. You stick to your guns. Because it's a gangster film. And it's supposed to be goddamn violent and immoral and a reflection of the crazy modern world we've created.

  • July 23, 2012, 11:40 p.m. CST

    @queefer sutherland

    by Bigdada

    If that asshat, orange haired retard, fucked up Christopher McQuarrie's next film, I will gladly buy that pepper for you.

  • July 23, 2012, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Colombine memories

    by John Fasano

    When the shooting at Colombine happened, the studios sent all the movie posters that had guns on them back to the marketing department and removed the guns. I had a Pilot script at Fox that was picked up -- it was basically a neighborhood version of the ATeam -- boom! No one would touch anything "violent" for the rest of the year. You couldn't even pitch an idea that sounded violent. Some films were delayed, but no films that I know of had scenes removed. They should move it, not edit it.

  • July 24, 2012, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Hypocrits

    by Soulpower

    They will also take all the shooting scenes out of their war films

  • If they are that worried, then delay the release date by six months or something, but censorship is not the answer. It doesn't stop tragedy or discourage crazy people. Forcing reactionary changes on films helps nobody, and ultimately only risks diminishing the film in question. If Warners wants to do something, how about covering the hospital and funeral costs of all those involved, take that particular financial worry away from those dealing with the true fallout of this tragic event. But playing film censorist, tgat's just the illusion of sensitivity, without actually doing anything meaningful, helpful, or constructive.

  • WHO GIVES A SHIT, NOW? There were people back then who actually said "nobody will ever be able to blow up a building or show terrorists in a movie ever again". You can't even begin to count how many movies have done both in the last eleven years, and nobody cares.

  • July 24, 2012, 12:50 a.m. CST

    How about NOT making a movie that glorifies gangsters?

    by TopHat

    These people murdered human beings for profit.

  • July 24, 2012, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Yes, great idea, let's pretend like bad people don't exist...

    by Stegman84

    That's clearly the answer to everything. And I'm sure that if we did that all the crazies and criminals would just disappear, as if by magic...

  • July 24, 2012, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Once again, AICN talkbacks prove to be the most idiotic place on the internet

    by seymour_scagnetti

  • July 24, 2012, 1:36 a.m. CST

    you nailed it were surrounded by pussies

    by ryan freiling

  • July 24, 2012, 1:47 a.m. CST

    ummm....was bobcat's movie edited too?

    by walt

    very important theater shooting scene in that this is stoopid

  • July 24, 2012, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Bullshit

    by aceldama

    This is a chickenshit move. Fucking disgusting.

  • July 24, 2012, 2:24 a.m. CST

    I had no interest in this film in the first place, but...

    by Daniel_S_Duvall

    ...I must agree with those who say this alteration is a mistake by WB. You're empowering Holmes (and those who might imitate him) by allowing his actions to affect a piece of art.

  • July 24, 2012, 2:33 a.m. CST

    Bobcat Goldthwait's GOD BLESS AMERICA is a fantastic satire

    by Daniel_S_Duvall

    ...that includes a scene in which the protagonist and his accomplice open fire on rude movie theater patrons. Should all home video copies of this film be recalled so that the auteur's vision can be altered in the name of political correctness? Of course not. I'm relieved that GOD BLESS AMERICA is not controlled by WB. Bobcat and those who produced GBA have balls and my utmost respect. Cheers to artists who don't pander to the lowest common denominator.

  • July 24, 2012, 2:36 a.m. CST

    People would have forgotten

    by obriensg1

    Actually, people would have never known. In time, years, or decade from now, nobody would know about this shooting. I wish they didn't have to censor the film. I'm for editing it in such a way where a cop says in voice over 'Everyone made it out O.K.!', but everything from scenes of car crashes, old dads dying of cancer, and sons/brothers being murdered and showing the grieving parents/siblings is hard to watch. I know because my grandfather was the middle example, and my brother the latter. My father can barely watch a character who has his first name. Still, that doesn't mean we stop making movies.

  • July 24, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Gunlaw does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Remove a scene from an upcoming action flick or remove automatic weapons from shop shelves... Hmm, I wonder which would reduce gun deaths? Rifles for hunting.. keep them. Pistols for target ranges... keep them. Assault rifles and automatic weapons - they have one purpose and one purpose only, to kill other PEOPLE. No way they should be on sale to the public. No way. Will banning automatic weapons stop all future gun crime. No. Will it stop some of it. Yes. Good enough for me.

  • July 24, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST

    fucking felch slurper!

    by mossad77

    FFS, funny how a guy tries to take to moral high ground but he can't wait to reach for personal insults. Yeah, I know there's a world outside there. But you just keep ignoring everything I and all the rest of us have said. Because we DO have and ARE showing respect towards the dead.....but this AINT a conversation about what happened. Is it? NOOOOOOOOOO. Bloody hell. And I made a point you didn't pick up on, which kind of proved my point. I mentioned Beslan, I could have mentioned the theatre siege in Moscow, you wouldn't have known what I was talking about. Because generally speaking, things like this only matter when they happen in the USA right? Do you think the American media bends over backwards not to upset people with violent images when there's a shooting in a Russian school? No, probably not eh? But as I said before this is a forum about movies. Save your holier than thou bullshit for the wife, or whoever you normally use to feel superior to......hmm...probably no-one. All we're doing is complaining about a movie, on a movie based website. We have that right, no? Oh, and 'Executor' - STFU. All you seem to be doing is telling the world that you think it's fine to censor a film so long as YOU don't think that film has artistic merit.

  • July 24, 2012, 5:28 a.m. CST

    I'm with Warner Bros on this one.

    by jellypop

    Insensitivity is not what is needed. It's only a scene in a movie being omitted. What happened in Colorado now can't be changed.

  • Insensitivity is not needed now.

  • July 24, 2012, 5:57 a.m. CST

    WB is stupid.

    by Kyle

    Don't they realize that by doing this they're probabaly going to incite some nutty fuck to get really fucking pissed off, dress up as a giant frog, show up at the movie, and shoot a bunch of people? All because WB decided to cut out the scene of the fictional characters shooting each other in a movie theater...And if any of you on here do that, I don't condone it, and the idea didn't come from me okay? Blame Lindsay Lohan or something...

  • July 24, 2012, 6 a.m. CST

    I think they're overstating the affect of the shooting

    by Michael Morning

    Everyone acts like one thing that happens in one part of the country has that big of an impact on the rest of the country. The shooting was a tragic spot on the evening news. Nothing more. Get over it and move on. This is like all the idiots that rushed to edit out scenes of the twin towers from the NYC skyline. Ridiculous and unnecessary. People walk around on eggshells in the name of political correctness...and we're all reduced for this.

  • July 24, 2012, 6:01 a.m. CST

    effect

    by Michael Morning

  • Um, but doesn't that make it all the sillier to do this? Cutting the scene won't bring those people back. Yes, it is ONLY a movie.........but then by that rationale, they should cut, muck about with, pander to the posibility of offending, with EVERY movie, and we should never, EVER care - because they are ALL just movies, right? Delay the film for a year if need be, but do not edit. You know what's sad? Columbine was 13 years ago, and nothing has changed. Another shooting occurs and instead of doing something to stop the next one, all we do is find ways to react to this one. 'Oh my God this scene is going to upset people'. You know what else is going to upset people? The NEXT nut with a gun. And yeah, I know, if someone wants a gun badly enough they will get one. But I can't help but think that if the US had gun laws as strict as Norways, maybe the shootings would be as rare as they are there. Yeah, Breivik pulled it off. But he had to jump through all kinds of hoops to manage. Do you honestly think those kids at Columbine could have gone as far as he did, going through a training course in order to get his pistol for instance? Gun control won't reduce gun crime to zero. But for cryin out loud, surely once in a blue moon is better than several times a decade! One report says that school shootings in the USA have doubled since Columbine. So saying 'look at Norway' seems a bit limp. How many shootings there? ONE that I know of. But by all means, cut this scene, it's only a movie, and I'm sure it'll stop any more shootings from occurring(!)

  • July 24, 2012, 6:31 a.m. CST

    So freaking lame. Won't change dick.

    by Count Screwface

  • July 24, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST

    I can understand it but a push back would make more sense

    by Wcwlkr

    You can be reminded of things in just about any movie or tv show. Removing stuff like this isn't going to erase the memory of this tragic event from people's minds. It certainly won't do that for the victims of that shooting. But like I said I understand, I do pray for healing for all of the victims.

  • July 24, 2012, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Meanwhile at The Ministry of Truth, it turns out that...

    by tangcameo

    Dillinger was NOT shot outside a movie theatre. Lee Harvey Oswald was never arrested inside a movie theatre. And Lew Zealand never threw boomerang fish in Muppets Take Manhattan.

  • July 24, 2012, 6:54 a.m. CST

    fuck here comes the end

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 7:22 a.m. CST

    I agree with billythekidd

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    I consider re-shooting the frickin movie to be typically hysterical media overreaction. Look it's very tragic 14 people lost their lives, but you know what? There was a pick-up crash in South Texas yesterday where 14 people lost their lives. Where's the uproar over that? I mean "neighborhood watch" is coming out (for better or for worse, because I think it looks fucking stupid)...

  • July 24, 2012, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Why not just pull out that stupid Bat flick ?

    by PTSDPete

    Makes a lot more sense.

  • follow the white rabbit I guess...

  • July 24, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Too soon, or not too soon? That is the question.

    by Stalkeye

    it looks like The psychotic dipship Holmes, wins again. But cancelling the distribution of TDKR Toys and the French Premiere of the Film, WB has given this twat more power than one can imagine as it effects day-to-day Business in the long run and now with the ommission of a shooting scene..well, Kidd does have merit in postponing the Film until the aftershock dies down. However, on the other hand out of respect to those effected by this tragedy, i guess it's an conscientious move on the studios' behalf and no doubt the said delted scene will be released on some Special edition Blu-Ray for those who wish to see it. Props to WB for donating procedds from TDKR to the Aurora Victims Charity fund. Now THAT'S something that I strongly agree with.

  • Facism is a radical authoritarian NATIONALIST political ideology. If the United States Minister of Cinema forced WB to make the cut then maybe your delusional theory would hold water. But being that there is no such position, and WB - a profit-making CORPORATION - is in fact making the call on its own means that you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. And if you think for a second that the nation state is controlling the decisions of corporate America- and not the other way around- not only do you not know what facism is, you don't even understand how capitalism functions in a democratic society. We're all waiting for your enlightening response. In the meantime, you've been... CHOPPED

  • July 24, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST

    eat it choppah.

    by Creative

  • The movie's not out till September. Come on!

  • July 24, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Shouldn't that scene be tragic anyway?!

    by ChestRockwell

    I don't get it. So before the Colorado tragedy, the shooting scene in a movie theater was not tragic and would be taken as fun and exciting, but now it would be taken as tragic/offensive? Maybe that's the underlying problem. Someone being shot in a movie should be tragic and violent, not cool or glamorized. They should keep the scene in the movie because it wasn't added after the Colorado tragedy to profit from it or glamorize it. I think it makes more sense than ever to leave it in. Now when people see it, they'll rightfully see the scene as the horrific tragedy it is. Killing someone is offensive, removing the scene doesn't change that.

  • July 24, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Bad Decision & Bad Precedent

    by Brian

    Shelve the movie for 6 months. There are shootings EVERY SINGLE DAY. All day long, morning, noon, and night-- shootings. This is one of many shootings and there will be more like it. You can't chop up a film like that. You can shelve a film though...

  • But I highly doubt it.

  • July 24, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    It's always about $$$

    by Fosho

    You think WB wants to wait 6 months and miss out on revenue? They're going to delete this scene, piss off a bunch of fans but still make $. That's what it always comes down to in Hollywood. They're starting go give less of a shit about their fans and more about $. I would say just wait, don't let terrorists change our ways!

  • July 24, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    hey choppah you are such a sorry fellow...

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    they're still fucking facists

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    i am never going to the movies again... bring back mega upload

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST

    shit like this really shows just how pussy our nation has become

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST

    shit like this really shows just how pussy our nation has become

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST

    united states of censorship... Welcome the new america...

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Let's get the facts straight folks..

    by Robert Evans

    WB is not forcing the director to remove the scene. The film is the director's vision and I'm sure there was much talk about it and I'm sure the director of his own free will obliged to remove the scene. Its in good taste to remove it, just as it was in good taste to remove the trailer from the theaters after the shooting. Films are art but they are also products bankrolled by corporations. Said businesses are not going to piss in audiences collective faces. Its called tact. I applaud WB for making the right decision to cut the scene and for donating a hefty portion of the profits made last weekend to the victims and their families. anyone else who doesnt see this can go seriously fuck themselves.

  • Promise? Don't tease us like that.

  • July 24, 2012, 9:45 a.m. CST

    killer_instinct

    by Robert Evans

    How about this? Your mom gets shot in the face and as she is dying i start fucking her body. Now i know what you're thinking--how could i do such a vile thing?! Its ok because i'm filming it. It's art. and she enjoyed it for the last few minutes of her life. Now let me ask you this--would you buy a copy of the film?

  • July 24, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST

    in seriousness yeah i would... never forget always remember

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    holy shit..killer instinct is devolving in front of my eyes

    by Robert Evans

    someone call OMNI

  • July 24, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Do we actually even know how prevalent the scene is in the film?

    by Robert Evans

    It could be just a scene from a montage or it could be a set piece..check your outrage at the door gentlemen

  • July 24, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST

    ever watch the chilling nazi movies... chpppah you are an idiot

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST

    choppah got chopped and is pissed ha!

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    cobra-kai...

    by vettebro

    The AR-15 platform is a perfect varmint rifle for hunting. It's modular, customizable, fairly easy to clean and very accurate. There are thousands of them sold each year. Just because ONE crazy ass fuck killed some innocent people doesn't mean we ban them for every law abiding citizen. All known criminals get their guns illegally anyway. I'm a firm believer in "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns". Eric Holders "Fast and Furious" debacle comes to mind...Hmmmm...Yes. I also believe in the 2nd amendment.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Stupid fkn Americans...

    by piltorp75

    solve the problems instead...like a change to a gooddamn movie will make a difference!! Like cutting away the scene in spiderman with the twin towers!! STUPID!

  • July 24, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    tea party? really? ha ha

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    i

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    This just in Crucifixion removed from the passion

    by Katet19

  • July 24, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    This just in Sinking ship removed from Titanic

    by Katet19

  • July 24, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST

    zombie cant you see your killing america

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    *in

    by Katet19

  • July 24, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST

    It's the right artistic decision to remove that scene

    by SlappyBones

    In the context of the Aurora shootings, the scene will take audiences right out of the plot. The spell will be broken. The film makers don't want us distracted from the story, and we will be if we're thinking about Aurora. The whole point of that scene is to entertain. If the scene was intended to make a comment about deranged lone gunman, then it would definitely stay. The Three Mile Island nuclear accident ended up being terrific publicity for "The China Syndrome". Of course, there's nothing wrong with movies that want to explore those tragedies dramatically. Gus Van Sant made "Elephant" after the Columbine shootings not as an action picture intended to thrill, but as a statement on the minds of the shooters. Delaying the release date won't help. Have we forgotten Columbine yet? Nope.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    vettebro, no hunter needs a gun that fires 800 rounds a min. What sort of varmints you hunting - those bugs from STARSHIP TROOPERS?!

  • July 24, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    killer instinct

    by Robert Evans

    theres a difference in making a film solely about the atrocities of the past, deeply rooted in fact and making a tentpole film to make a few bucks. You're trying to compare GANGSTER SQUAD to SCHINDLER'S LIST when it should be compared to STREETS OF FIRE..

  • July 24, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    killer_instinct, stop. Now. If you keep digging yourself any deeper you'll end up in China.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    i likr china, spent a few years there... why not some more...

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    i likr china, spent a few years there... why not some more...

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    i likr china, spent a few years there... why not some more...

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST

    The whole point of that scene is to entertain...

    by SlappyBones

    Sorry, I was unclear. The point of the scene is to entertain as a thrilling action sequence.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Cobra...

    by vettebro

    I will agree with you on that one. We don't need 100+ round clips for civilian use.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST

    The point of the scene is what you take away from it

    by Katet19

    Whether someone finds it entertaining or horrific is subjective. It being the right "artistic decision" is sort of of if you judge art as being generally subjective. It's clear some of us find it offensive and some don't. Why skew toward the people who DO find it offensive? They have the choice to not go and see the film. This decision was made not from a need to shield people or out of compassion, it was a decision made so that they don't lose money when people start raving about the similarities. The studio is erring on the side of caution as far as their investment is concerned.

  • Just Google FACISM + HOLLYWOOD + CENSORSHIP and I'm sure you'll be able to find something that justiflies your claim that you can copy and paste.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Choppah

    by mossad77

    To address a few of your points. 1. So it isn't Schindlers List. So what? Are we only going to defend films from censorship when we feel they deserve it? Who gets to choose -- you? 2. You claimed when you were telling us to 'shut the fuck up' that it will be the directors decision. How do you know? There've been no press releases by WB or him. He's made 2 films, Zombieland, and 30 Minutes Or Less. Neither one qualifies him as the rich Spielberg type with the clout to say "you will release my vision uncut". 3. You asked how 'prevalent' the scene is. I think you mean how important - 'prevalent' suggests the scene appears throughout the film in some way. Well we may not 'know' enough to check our outrage at the door per se, but critics who have read the screenplay and were there when they filmed the scene imply that it is a MAJOR PLOTPOINT - not a montage.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST

    I believe this sequence should NOT be cut from the movie

    by D.Vader

    I'm tired of movies cutting out material bc it's too similar to a real world event. And we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Bleh.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    katet19: In this case, artistic and business desires coincide

    by SlappyBones

    I agree with most of your statement. It's a business decision as well as artistic. But I don't think they are shielding out of compassion. They want audiences to react to the story, not that scene. It's bad storytelling to leave it in.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    not directed at you kate. sorry for any confusion

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Neighborhood Watch being changed to The Watch is not comparable

    by D.Vader

    That's an entirely different situation that's all about marketing and NOT about content In the film. You can't compare that to this.

  • It's getting embarrassing.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST

    It seems that whenever something tragic takes place...

    by Ricardo

    ... some movie has to edit their scenes due to it.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    mossad

    by Robert Evans

    1--yes it isnt Schindler's List. you are correct. A film handled with tact and precision and moreso a film to document the atrocities of the Holocaust and portray them in a factual way. Not once is it glorified or makes it look neato. It was also told 50 years after the events, so that has something to do with it. Plus Hollywood is not retconning all their films. WB didnt do it for Natural Born Killers after the copycat murders in 1994 and they didnt do it for THE MATRIX after Columbine in 1999. It is an isolated incident where the studio and the director can proactively edit something that might not make their film as marketable as it wouldve been on 7/19/12. 2--yer right, the director prolly doesnt have the clout as Spielberg but the rest of the cast does. and they can speak their minds on the matter. Not once has (or will) come forward and say YOU KNOW WE REALLY SHOULD KEEP THAT SCENE IN THE FILM CAUSE I LIKE HOW IT WORKED OR IT WAS REALLY COOL HOW ALL THOSE PEOPLE DIED. 3--as for how the scene wouldve played out..I dont see it being that big a deal. at most i can see it being a small set piece. Its not like it wouldve been the climax of the film that required another months shoot. Once again, I applaud WB for their proactive decision to remove the scene, however big or small it was.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST

    What a tool you are Nerdling

    by Duranr

    I bet you would "understand' if they took a strong stance and kept the scene in the movie. But sometimes you comic book "journalists" can be such sycophants sometimes. You have such a huge fear and "respect" for authority figures or establishment that you would find a way to be "understanding" about practically anything they do to the point where it destroys your street cred. Why can't you use your own thought process, your own self awareness and stop being such kiss ass robots. If you used your common sense you would see that It's a movie, its a script, its a story, a vision. It should not be changed for any one person, event, or political or public relations reason outside the original artists.

  • All this chest-thumping bullshit about censorship, facism, freedom of speech. Those values are at the core of our nation and have nothing to do with this decision. There are plenty of examples of how our civil liberties are being squashed. This is just a corporation making a decision. Are some of you so self-entitled to think that studios are beholden to a fraction of their audience who cares about this cut and NOT their their corporate stakeholders? That's why I said originally that if it means that much to you boycott it, or picket the damn theater. THAT'S the leverage consumers have against corporations. But to turn this into being part of some great Orwellian nightmare is ridiculous.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Choppah

    by mossad77

    Wait a minute. Point one you seem to be using to bash the film....which is exactly the kind of thing that annoyed me in the first place - you seem to be suggesting that it doesn't matter because the film is 'low brow' - does film snobbery have to come into this? Second point, I'm not trying to bash all actors, but they mostly just cash their cheques and move on. Wether they speak out or not makes no difference. Thirdly - I don't know this - but it was claimed it was a big scene. We will see. You can applaud if you want. I think it's a cowardly decision made by accountants!

  • July 24, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Excellent point, choppah!

    by SlappyBones

    Set pieces can be easily replaced. The film makers believe it's worth the money and effort.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Slappy

    by Katet19

    I can see what you're saying but the element left out is the ability to let people decide for themselves. I am by no means saying the people that come to these TB's are elevated above the average viewer but I for one would fully be able to watch the movie without the scene being removed and not be distracted by it. I may think of wow that's chillingly similar but it would by no means distract from my ability to enjoy/judge the movie as a whole. It's hand holding. Though perhaps some people need it. It'd be nice to give those of us who don't the option to see the film intact.

  • Like some already have. Sheesh.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    mossad

    by Robert Evans

    certain talkbackers here were freaking out that ALL film (past present and future) will now be edited to make everything safe and warm and cuddly. This as you know is not the case. Im not bashing GANGSTER SQUAD but for anyone to try to compare it to SCHINDLER'S LIST or even PASSION OF THE CHRIST is just silly. They seem to be missing the point of those films as well as the point they are trying to make.. The filmmakers and studio saw an opportunity to look at things here and said maybe it would be best left out. and sean penn and gosling are very outspoken for human rights, im sure they spoke up and expressed their opinions on the matter. I understand peoples concerns over this but has there been a massive slaughter in LA during a bank robbery a month or two before HEAT came out, i would be upset about it but I wouldnt for one think my freedom was being infringed upon. I still have a right to see the film or not.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Choppah I mentioned Passion it was a joke

    by Katet19

    It's clearly not the same thing I was just playing off of the more hysterical folks in here.

  • July 24, 2012, 11 a.m. CST

    All we can do

    by mossad77

    Is wait to see what the finished film is like. Those in the States will find out before me, on account of the fact that we weren't getting it in the UK til November - assuming they can really recut it and still make the original release date. I will be waiting with baited breath to hear what Ruben Fleischer has to say about it but I suspect we'll have to wait a while.....

  • July 24, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST

    The only issue I take is if

    by Katet19

    The filmmakers were FORCED by the studio to change it and they truly felt it is a scene essential to the structure of the film. Even then it's the studios money at stake not theirs. It's a business decision. If it effects the movie that's a shame from an artistic stand point but it's WB's prerogative.

  • July 24, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    anyone defending this is fucking retarded.

    by JAMF

  • July 24, 2012, 11:17 a.m. CST

    It may be their money at stake

    by mossad77

    ...but that doesn't make the idea that they'd force the agenda any less sad. I don't like thinking of films as the studios 'property'. Yeah, Universal could have fired Spielberg at any time during Jaws, saying "stop throwing our money away", it wouldn't have made it any less of a bad idea! Best comparison is this though ; it may be their money, but do we want movies made the way we see Ed Woods movies made in the Burton film? "I want my relative in your movie.....remember, I'm paying for it!" Just cause they pay for it, doesn't mean they should lean in and edit for him!

  • July 24, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    I for one welcome our new censorship overlords...

    by BooCocky

    Is what every proponent of this move is saying. Fucking squids.

  • You are either: 1. Very drunk 2. Borderline illiterate 3. Trying to type on your Iphone while riding a camel. In any case, I couldn't make much sense of your response. Thank you for making the effort though.

  • Fuck that. Fascists!

  • July 24, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST

    well said :)

    by Creative

  • July 24, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST

    A HUGE Mistake...

    by TDH1138

    Seriously. Certainly remove it from trailers, but don't reshoot it and just push the release back a bit. This was shot BEFORE the incident and that can't be helped. It's a horrible thing that happened in Aurora but I think the studio is being OVERLY sensitive.

  • I tip my hat to you, sir. Quite funny.

  • Damn cut & paste. Still, well played zombie_fatigue.

  • July 24, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    yes! yes

    by bloss

  • July 24, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    yes!yes! let's just cut everything out of everything!

    by bloss

  • July 24, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST

    shooter is a batman fan...

    by bloss

    so let's just remove anything batman from the public eye, so we aren't constantly reminded of this horrendous tragedy. Agreed, let's just yank the entire theater scene of Inglourious Basterds. While we are at it, let's go ahead and remove the movie theater scene in Fight Club because Tyler Durden assaults the eyes of little children. Let's also cut out the movie theater scene in JFK when the Dallas cops close in on Oswald. Let's cut out the drive-in movie scene in Twister because of the big bad tornado that assaults the people watching a movie. Let's also cut the scene of the chandelier falling on the people in ALL the versions of Phantom of the Opera. That happened in a theater. Oh, and let's also remove the scenes from The Blob and the remake where it terrorizes a movie theater, cuz you know... tragedy and stuff. In fact, let's just burn everything, and not have movies or good television shows anymore at all.

  • If you are serious, you lack any sort of contextual logic. If you are trolling, you are assholes. If you're just kidding, you need to grow the fuck up.

  • If they think people will boycott their film and they will lose the many millions they invested in it, it absolutely makes no sense to keep it in. It doesn't cost you nitwits anything to call them "pussies". Get a clue, it's a business.

  • And totally annoyed him with their pesky handgun bullets just long enough for him to turn his semi-automatic in their direction and open fire, killing them and everyone around them. When you have police commissioners coming out and saying that Holmes was so armed that even the trained first responders were ill-equipped to take him on, you'd think that'd be enough to stop the "arm everyone" idiots. And you'd be wrong.

  • July 24, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST

    katet19: Actually, yes, I'd like to see it too.

    by SlappyBones

    I'd love to see a blu-ray package with the pre- and post-shooting editions, with some commentary on why they made the decisions they did. Perhaps I'm wrong and it was ordered by the studio. I'd like more info. Also, thanks for the intelligent conversation!

  • July 24, 2012, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Choppah, have to disagree with you and agree with Kidd and others

    by SergeantStedenko

    who think they should have shelved it for a while. Remember, 9/11, how everyone thought we would never be able to show terrorism again in a movie? Not only did that never pan out, but we also were able to get movies about 9/11 a few years later. And there have been movies about high school shootings since Columbine. Therefore there is non reason why a shooting in a theater should be off-limts for eternity. Recent history reveals it won't be.

  • July 24, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    novaman, having MORE morons with guns is always the solution

    by SergeantStedenko

    because it puts MORE money in the pockets of Gun Manufacturers. Human life be damned! Guns are more important than people!

  • July 24, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Ah yes, idiots crying CENSORSHIP.

    by DoctorWho?

    A STUDIO is deciding what changes to make with THEIR product to best help THEMSELVES and the SUCCESS of THEIR film. Censorship my ass! They're exercising their own judgement. <p> Rebels without a clue who think they're challenging some "injustice" or "speaking truth to power". HA! The kind of censorship you should be worried about is that of the STATE. If and when the government starts clamping down on free expression, you'll have a point. Until then, stop embarrassing yourselves.

  • If they're concerned about taking in cash, I would have no problem with that.

  • July 24, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    I could go either way but

    by cromulent

    people who were really truly affected by the shooting are not going to go see a movie like that or any movie with guns and shooting and killing. If I was attacked by a giant lizard in a lab coat, I wouldn't go see Amazing Spiderman.

  • July 24, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Leave it in.

    by micturatingbenjamin

    Warner Brothers. You didn't arm this jamoke. You didn't make him crazy. You didn't pull the trigger. The sensitive thing to do is to move the movie back, not eliminate something from the flick? What, are they gonna go back and change Johnny Dangerously too? Anyone remember how that KICKASS Spider-Man trailer got pulled? With the bank robbers using a helicopter, and he stops them by webbing between the World Trade Center? It was killer. So instead of that, they ADD Spidey jumping on a flag at the end of the flick, and 'New Yawkers' banding together saying 'You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us!' so that we feel better about 9/11. But you look at it today, and it feels exactly what it was: pandering. Don't remove it.

  • July 24, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST

    That's just dumb.

    by Yelsaeb

  • July 24, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    WB should have self censored TDKR! The whole clusterfuck of a movie besides the title!

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    Just a piece of shit movie from start to finish -although i liked The Bat

  • July 24, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    except for the Title

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

  • No one will care come September, and also if you're gonna go that far, might as well remove any scenes of violence in any movie ever.

  • yeah it aint senistive but when did that ever stop a studio -just delay that bitch

  • July 24, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST

    I'm sticking with what I wrote.

    by jellypop

    Warner Bros. HAVE done that right thing. The families of those poor people in that cinema on that night that lost their lives now only hold photos and mementos as memories now. Is changing a scene in a film or dropping a trailer really going to hurt as much as that? I don't think so.

  • July 24, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Damn... Was hoping Warner's wouldn't do this.

    by Buck Turgidson

    Think I'll wait until the special edition DVD. Perhaps we'll see the original version there. Wonder how Ruben Fleischer feels about cutting what sounds like the penultimate scene.

  • July 24, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST

    jamf, you are 100% correct!

    by ajit maholtra

  • Violence happens everywhere, every day. And because a few people were shot in a movie theater, doesn't mean a movie should be censored because of it. I understand protecting the bottom line, but bein shot is bein shot. Only way you'd ever apease those families is if you took out every act of gun violence in every movie EVER.

  • July 24, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST

    You're all fucking morons!

    by mav07

    Warner Brothers is not taking out the scene to spare "your" feelings, they're removing it out of respect for the actual victims and their families. I'd like you fanboys to trade places with one of the people who had there loved ones murdered in front of them, or with the ones still in the hospital with bullets in their neck and then decide how important a fucking scene in a movie really is to you. I honestly hope the world ends this year because the human race needs a fresh start. Fuck.......a fucking scene in a movie? It's obviously not that important to the people who made it do neither should you.

  • July 25, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST

    @ mav07

    by doczlove

    You're missing the point. Taking your reasoning, why not just pull The Dark Knight Rises from distribution entirely? Are we kindergarteners who need to be protected? Do you think any one of those affected by the tragedy wants to go see a movie called 'Gangster Squad' to escape from the memory of a violent shooting? If artists let this stuff interfere with their art, then they are admitting 'Yes, movies are responsible, not guns'. Do you see any retailers volunteering to stop selling guns, even for one day?!!!

  • July 25, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST

    @ playkins

    by No Respectable Gentleman

    If you think I was serious, you should grow the fuck up. If you think I was trolling, you should grow the fuck up. If you think my comment was aimed at anything but the oversensitive Spielberg/Lucas school of airburshing guns out of E.T and Greedo-shot-first, you should grow the fuck up. In fact, just for indiscriminately using the phrase "grow the fuck up" you should grow the fuck up.

  • July 25, 2012, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Mac07

    by mossad77

    I'd like you fanboys to trade places with one of the people who had there loved ones murdered in front of them, or with the ones still in the hospital with bullets in their neck and then decide how important a fucking scene in a movie really is to you.

  • July 25, 2012, 3:41 a.m. CST

    I hope the kneejerk reactionists are happy

    by mossad77

    Den of Geek are reporting that not only is the scene being replaced, but they are ALSO delaying the film til January in the States (later for the ROW I assume).

  • July 25, 2012, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Hypocrisy and lack of perspective

    by Shady Drifter

    The reaction some have over one random event over so many other larger ones is baffling. By this measure, we should stop making films about war since millions have died as victims of war, or terrorism since so many people have died victims of terrorism, or car accidents, etc. I do think the cinema shootings were a tragedy, but thinking that removing a scene in some unrelated movie is going to make things better is absurd, when some psycho can walk into a shop and buy a numbers of guns. It is so much more rare for things like this (or smaller gun related crimes) in other places where guns are controlled. I think everyone should start asking how that guy got hold of those guns, how no one realised in a seemingly small place that this guy was mentally going down the drain, how he could get to the cinema armed like Rambo and nobody blinked an eye... but no: let's chop a scene from a movie no one has ever even heard of ...

  • July 25, 2012, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Exactly shady drifter!

    by ajit maholtra

    The only people who support this are complete mental retards born from their mother's anus. Lets go through this chatback and make a list of all the retards.

  • July 25, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Yeah, last thing we'd want is for people to be reminded of Aurora

    by SigourneyWeavers3Dbeaver

    Wouldn't want anyone learning from the past now, would we?

  • Anyone who disagreed with these things was a traitor.

  • July 25, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    What If???

    by raysolo

    You're six year old kid was killed in a movie shoot out. I don.t really believe any of us talk backers would be so quick to stand on a soapbox about censorship. Remember, human decency should trump artistic sensibilities.

  • July 25, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Thanks. (from the shoes no one wants to walk in)

    by raysolo

  • And then you in the weeks that follow you are going to R rated movies called Gangster Squad, a movie about gangsters shooting guns, then you are a horribly bad parent and your feelings and opinions should not be followed by anyone.

  • July 25, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    I actually didn't mind them removing the twin towers from movies after 9/11

    by SergeantStedenko

    Because they no longer existed, therefore they no longer were indicative of NYC.

  • July 25, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST

    shady, you're right, it's tantamount to lip service

    by SergeantStedenko

    Nobody wants to have a serious discussion about our culture and how it glorifies violence, particularly gun violence and how we are obsessed with these murder devices. Guns only exist for one reason: to kill things, be that for hunting, self-defense, war or massacres like Aurora, these tools were solely designed for the purpose of making things we aim them at dead.

  • July 25, 2012, 9:15 a.m. CST

    BBC report for what it's worth:

    by mossad77

    Gun sales in Colorado have gone UP. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18980974

  • Instead of one idiot shooting you would have had hundreds of idiots shooting each other. When the police finally arrived at the scene, how would they have been able to determine who was the initial shooter? How many more people would be dead now as a result of the chaos? A little Zen Koan for all your gun nuts out there to ponder.

  • July 25, 2012, 10:17 a.m. CST

    @no respectable gentleman: yeah, moron.

    by Playkins

    WBs move has nothing to do with self censorship. They have removed images of a theater being shot up after a real theater has been shot up IN REAL LIFE, during one of their OWN movies. This isnt about self censorship, or pussfying America. This is about being just a little respectful of a very RECENT tragedy, and at the same time sparing themselves inevitable criticism if they didn't. They now have a movie they have spent millions on that will piss off every Joe Schmoe average American. They stand to look like assholes and lose loads of money if they don't do something. Yes, if you can't see that, you need to grow the fuck up.

  • July 25, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    BRAVO TO WB FOR SHOWING SOME RESPECT AND SENSITIVITY TO THE VICTIMS

    by big_dicks_cum_from_small_beginnings

    I don't get the objections here, nor do I want to.

  • July 25, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST

    What strikes me as

    by Playkins

  • I'd be willing to bet that out of everyone complaining here, only a few of you would even actually go see this movie in a theater anyway.

  • July 25, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    SERGEANTSTEDENKO - I KNOW LIBERALS GET OFF ON BELIEVING THEY KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR EVERYONE

    by big_dicks_cum_from_small_beginnings

    But fuck you to hell because you know shit. If even 2 or 3 of the audience members (which in this case included trained vets, mind you) had been packing they would in all likelihood had stopped the carnage sooner and saved lives, including their own. Rather than be the fish in a bowl that they effectively were. Fucking liberals.

  • July 25, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Respect and sensitivity

    by mossad77

    In the immortal words of Michael Corleone : Who's being naieve now?

  • July 25, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    KILDEER OBVIOUSLY SPEAKING FOR HIMSELF

    by big_dicks_cum_from_small_beginnings

    I'd use you for cover, no doubt.

  • July 25, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    @playkins -- indiscriminate use of the word "moron" is also moronic

    by No Respectable Gentleman

    "Mind reading" the thoughts of others based on flimsy evidence -- in this case zero evidence -- is indicative of a moron. My own thoughts on GANGSTER SQUAD is that we'd all need to see the scene in context to judge whether or not it should be removed. As I haven't -- as none of us have -- I have no passionate opinion either way. If WB has decided to reshoot the scene, that's their business. Though I'm bemused by the hypocrisy: there will be plenty of other movies in the next couple of months (e.g. THE EXPENDABLES 2) glorifying gun violence. And (as others have noted) there's another one already out there -- the fascistic INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS -- featuring people getting annihilated in a movie theater. To me it's all like that line in APOCALYPSE NOW: we shoot them to shreds and then give them a band-aid. All part of the prevailing absurdity and worthy of caustic humor. Moron.

  • July 25, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    big_dick

    by SergeantStedenko

    You didn't answer my question, what if everyone of adult age in the audience had a gun? Because, that's what assholes like you want, right. How do you think that would have gone down? I bet, your dumb ass thinks it's a good idea to arm students on college campus, too. Because, as the NRA and their toadies say, more guns is the answer to gun violence, not less.

  • July 25, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST

    big_dick

    by SergeantStedenko

    You're not even capable of having an intelligent conversation about gun violence because you are so blinded by your ideology. For the record, I am not anti-gun. I believe in the Second Amendment. But, I also believe that we have a serious problem in this country with gun violence. I don't know what the solution is, but I do know that it we don't start talking about one or even start a conversation because we are afraid of offending jerks like you, then we are just going to continue to have more incidents like this. And I do personally believe that having more guns in the hands of more people is not the solution and that it is very convenient for the NRA and the gun manufacturers they represent to have people like you expounding the belief that it is the answer.

  • July 25, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Man of Steel Comic-Con Footage posted here:

    by Clark Kunt

    http://tinyurl.com/bptjv95

  • July 25, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Green Lantern 2 Teaser link:

    by Clark Kunt

    <a href="http://tinyurl.com/bptjv95">http://tinyurl.com/bptjv95</a>

  • July 25, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    I thought the scene was retarded the first time I saw it.

    by MISTER RUMBLES

    Glad it will be cut.

  • There have been repeatedly stated in these lines thoughts in the line of: "what if you'd been one of the victims? what if your little daughter had been killed that night?" Well, I'm willing to bet that most of us would be damning not only the Gangster Squad trailer that inspired the killer (which could be argued, for sure, although so far as the leaked information tells us, Holmes mentioned The Joker) but The Dark Knight Raises and Ledger's performance, but most of all, I think most of us - I for sure- would be merely wanting to die. The thing is, I was not one of the victims. My hypothetical little daughter was not killed that night. So I can- and do- focus on this apparently trivial (undoubtedly really so for the truly affected) matter. Does that make me a bad person? Not showing that degree of empathy towards those people I never even met? I ask the people who think so, does the fact that you don't light up a vigil candle for all the victims of brutal violence dying all over the world on a daily basis, that you don't even stop eating while watching news of ethnic cleansing on t.v. make you bad people? I think the answer to all these questions is, No. It is simply the way life and the world work. Does it suck? I leave the answer to you, but that´s not the point being discussed here. There have also been lots of mentions of how the scene cutting should be made out of respect for the people who, in watching, would feel personally affected. Fact is, in thinking like that, people who support that stance are assuming they know what is the expiration date for human grieving. How long those struck by this tragedy will feel the resulting devastation? A week? A month? A year? Ten years? Do you think you could actually recriminate any of these people for not overcoming the aftermath ever? Not ever? There may be some people among them who will never overcome grief and/or trauma. I watched Jaws when I was about five and, to this day, a 36-year-old man, I still cant watch shark films without half-covering my eyes with my slightly spread fingers. I've got the feeling the result could be way worse for those who sat in that hellish, dark, smoke-filled place, formerly a theater, then a slaughterhouse. So what about those people who won't recover? What about the 9/11 living victims who still don't recover? Should all mentions of 9/11 be banned? Excised? If so, that's not happening. The fact of the matter is, the people whose lives were destroyed last Friday will never be able to look at the theater-shooting scene in Gangster Squad- or the climax of Inglorious Basterds, for that matter- without being reminded of that day and emotionally responding in consequence. The rest of the world can, will, and do. Again, does it suck? Again, that's not the point here. Life is what life is, the world is what the world is, and we all are completely free to qualify them as we please. Someone mentioned that it wasn't about all movies from now on being scrutinized or butchered but specifically this one. That may (may) be true, but the precedent-setting will make it way easier for the wrong people to make even more wrong calls for even way shadier and wrong reasons in the future. Finally, someone said that, if the filmmakers didn't mind the cutting (not that I've personally read any statement from anyone involved regarding the matter, but let's go with it anyway) why should any of us care? The simple truth is, most of the people here, typing and watching the movies on this end of the line, care way more about those (and all) movies than most (and I mean most) of all the people on the other end of the line, making them. We all can name the obvious exceptions -Dante, Scorsese, Tarantino, Rodriguez, Linklater, Spielberg and some other lesser-known names- but Hollywood is nothing more than a business and a money-making machine for most of all the agents, producers, actors, writers, directors and overall craftsmen working there. It is for us, the audiences in love with the final result (product, for most of those involved in its making; magic, for us, when it amazingly turns out more than merely well) that this matters, and matters so much, for us for whom movies and life intertwine so deeply, all the time, that they become one single thing, one sole desire. But that's, like, my opinion, man

  • July 25, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Please list for me movies where the twin towers were removed.

    by travismays

    Spiderman aside.

  • July 25, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Travismays

    by ajit maholtra

    Zoolander Serendipity People I Know Men in Black 2 Kissing Jessica Stein and a Jackie Chan movie about a WTC window washer called Nosebleed was cancelled. Those are just a few. In total, 45 films were changed or delayed.

  • July 25, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST

    respectable gentleman: See, here's the problem:

    by Playkins

    You never said that before. All you did was make snide comments about Spielberg re-shooting the assassination in Lincoln, and "oversensitive" filmmakers. All I can interpret from that is that you are comparing the actions of a studio protecting their product and reputation to Lucas and Spielberg (who have seemed to have misplaced their cajones). Apples and oranges.<P> If you had bothered to explain that you are pointing out hypocrisy of the studio system, you might have found that we share some common ground.<P> I agree with you, maybe people should wait to see the film to judge, but WB has to protect their investment and avoid a PR catastrophe. By the look of the trailer, there's not too much room for interpretation as to what that scene in the theater was all about (I saw the trailer before it was yanked).<P> I'm not trying to act like a mind reader. What I've got to go on is what you say. If you feel the necessity to explain some stupid comment that has been misinterpreted (and it did sound stupid), so be it. Just don't be vague and get tweaked if someone gets the wrong idea.

  • July 25, 2012, 5:33 p.m. CST

    There were 1,246,248 violent crimes in the US in 2010

    by FluffyUnbound

    That's a little over 3414 a day. A day. There is no day that you can release a movie including any kind of violence where you aren't being 'insensitive' to 'victims'. This crime was more flamboyant than many others, but that's it. When you run around saying we have to be 'sensitive' to the victims of this crime, but not to the 3414 crime victims from the day before or the day before that, you're basically saying that you're an empathy magpie. If something shiny catches your attention, you make a big Pharisaic show of empathy. But the ongoing rush of daily life - which actually produces 'victims' in numbers that dwarf this incident on any particular day or week - doesn't register for you. At all. It's really kind of pathetic.

  • July 25, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    fluffyunbound, beautifully said!

    by ajit maholtra

  • July 25, 2012, 9:59 p.m. CST

    @ choppah

    by Aaron

    You said, "How about this? Your mom gets shot in the face and as she is dying i start fucking her body. Now i know what you're thinking--how could i do such a vile thing?! Its ok because i'm filming it. It's art. and she enjoyed it for the last few minutes of her life. Now let me ask you this--would you buy a copy of the film? " What, exactly, does this preposterous scenario that you are describing have to do with the recent events... or, in fact, anything to do with reality whatsoever? We are talking about fictional characters being filmed by film crews. Not snuff films. Go chop yourself.

  • July 26, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST

    This is wrong, and a slippery slope. Removing it from the trailers is one thing.

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    I get that. But to cut it out of the movie because of a tragedy is wrong. If we cut out every tragedy of every movie do you know what we would have? We would have those documentary narratives from The Invention of Lying. War movies; gone because war happens. Cop movies; gone because cops get shot at, and shoot people. Ghetto gang movies; definintely gone. Drug movies; gone because people use, sell, or die from drugs. Any movie with a funeral; gone because people die. Natual disaster movies; gone because disasters happen. Forget the Godfather. Forget Bonnie and Clyde. Forget Tarantino. This decision is plain dumb. Also, Warner Brothers is a bunch of wimps because when Bale went to see the victims they immediately said he was out there on his own. This psycho could have chose anywhere, or anyplace. It just happened to be a movie theater.

  • We live in an interesting country If that scene were left in the film, MORE people would want to see it. It would become THAT film... FOR THE CONTROVERSY. AMERICANS LOVE THEIR CONTROVERSY. SO THEY CAN ARGUE AND KNEEJERK HATE ON EACH OTHER FOR A REASON, OVER THE CONTROVERSY. IS THIS HEALTHY? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT... There have always been insane people, and there always will be. At least 24 Americans every day (8-9,000 a year) are killed by people with guns – and that doesn't count the ones accidentally killed by guns or who commit suicide with a gun. Count them and you can triple that number to over 25,000. That means the United States is responsible for over 80% of all the gun deaths in the 23 richest countries combined. Considering that the people of those countries, as human beings, are no better or worse than any of us, well, then, why us? Violent movies and video games are responsible? The movies and video games in Japan are more violent than ours – and yet usually fewer than 20 people a year are killed there with guns – and in 2006 the number was two! REALLY? WHY US? ANYONE- LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE, I DON'T CARE-- WHY US?

  • Besides, you all do know that you will be able to see it somehow, somewhere. because this is the world we live in.

  • July 26, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    fuck this shit

    by CuervoJones

  • July 26, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST

    That´s like giving power to that asshole murderer

    by CuervoJones

  • July 26, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST

    murderer asshole

    by CuervoJones

    whatever, English is not my language.

  • July 26, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST

    cuervojones - actually- it's giving power to the victims

    by Michael Lunney

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