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Harry is profoundly disappointed with DARK KNIGHT RISES!


Profound disappointment.


Those are the two words that absolutely encapsulates the feeling I have at this exact moment.


I loved THE DARK KNIGHT.   Since its release, I’ve watched it perhaps a good dozen times already.   The only reason I want to see DARK KNIGHT RISES again, is to see the MAN OF STEEL trailer in front of it.


Make no bones about it – Nolan captures majestic imagery from time to time, but mostly it feels like he’s bored with the story and the characters.   He and his brother have constructed a film which seems overtly designed to piss off anyone that loves this world and this group of characters.


I fucking love BATMAN.   You’ll see the excitement I had when I taped my show last week.   I’m practically vibrating with enthusiasm to see the movie.   That was absolutely the case when I pulled up to the Bob Bullock IMAX here in Austin today.   I showed up two & a half hours early for a film that I reserved seats for.   Why?   Because what if something went wrong?   What if somehow, I didn’t get to see it?   I can’t live with that, so I showed up early.   I showed up early to talk with my friends, and there wasn’t a single bit of hesitancy about how much we thought we were going to love this.


After the Schumacher years, we fans of BATMAN greeted Nolan with open arms.   Bringing a man known for his love of Film Noir and classical cinematic techniques…  it was a marriage made in heaven.   The first in the series was a wonderful start to the franchise.   I liked it completely.   DARK KNIGHT – DARK KNIGHT I found to be revelatory.   At every level I loved it.   There’s not a second of the film I don’t love.




The set up would have us believe that after the events of THE DARK KNIGHT, that Batman hung his cape and cowl up, because apparently the death of Harvey Dent triggered a series of sweeping law enforcement initiatives that completely shut down organized crime in Gotham.   Some HARVEY DENT act was passed which apparently made it so criminals would never be paroled or set loose.   So crime is no longer a problem in Gotham.


That isn’t why BATMAN has hung it up, it’s actually because of Maggie Gyllenhaal’s character death in THE DARK KNIGHT.




I call absolute BULLSHIT on that notion right there.   BATMAN/BRUCE WAYNE isn’t some soft-hearted slob that hides for the majority of a decade because somebody killed his girlfriend.   If anything, that’s why he hits the street.    The elimination of organized crime isn’t what pulls him off the street…  it’s stopping street crime, any crime.    He fights in the night so the only people that fear the streets at night are the cockroaches that prey upon fucking humanity.   He’s fucking BATMAN.   BATMAN doesn’t mope around his mansion unmotivated to participate in the fucking world.   He isn’t that kind of person.  


We discover Bruce walking around with a cane in his mansion.  Seemingly still fit, but when he catches Selina Kyle stealing his mother’s pearls…  He gets his legs swept and she heads out a window while he looks like a completely lost person.  Bullshit.


Alfred leaving Bruce Wayne to handle this mess himself.   Bullshit.   Alfred Pennyworth is there to the bitter end.   It’s his nature.   Loyalty.  Alfred is Bruce’s witness.   The man who never fails to pick him up after a scrap.   A man that would watch him fall, just to put him back together again.    ALFRED does not throw a hissy and runs off.   And certainly Bruce Wayne isn’t the type to let a letter by an ex-lover come between him in Alfred.   TOO MUCH WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.


BANE – I’m the guy that originally championed Tom Hardy as being in anything, because I fucking love Tom Hardy.   Watching his performances in films  from BRONSON to now – he’s never disappointed.   He doesn’t disappoint here, the disappointment comes from Bane utter lack of ferocity.   The fights are all toe to toe fights, Batman doesn’t use his environment.   Bane never gets super-strength.   Though apparently they can punch into marble & knock chunks of it out – but the multiple fights between BANE & Batman are the exact opposite of cinematic.   They’re tracking shot fights.   You never feel the blows.   Every punch Mr. T or Ivan Drago threw in a Rocky movie would devastate BANE.   The intelligence that Tom Hardy plays into BANE is good, but at no time do I get the sense that he’s on, oh, say…  DOC SAVAGE’s scale – the character upon which BANE was originally built.    No, this Bane, like in Schumacher’s BATMAN & ROBIN is again revealed to be a pet…  essentially a guard dog.     BANE is no longer South American.   You never get a sense of the character’s ferocity.   Every neck snap – every destruction of a human being is done off camera.    The punches where he cracks Batman’s cowl are the only ones that elicited an audible reaction from the crowd.   Every fight that Stallone has ever fought in any film in which he’s ever fought – is better than this.   Taking VENOM out of the equation…  taking the Superhuman out of Bane, the hoses into his body, the impossible physique it creates…  it just makes it look like Batman is a pussy.   Making Ra’s Al Ghul responsible for BANE’s training – is enraging.    That for a bit, they want us to believe Bane is the son of Al Ghul…. Well I found that fairly fucking insulting too.


BATMAN/BRUCE WAYNE – I like Christian Bale’s performance as this character.   I hate where the Nolan’s took his character for this story.   The “breaking of his back” is handled in a manner of least power.   I mean, if you know the KNIGHTFALL story – you’re gonna roll your eyes.   After the film, I went out to dinner with some friends that attended and the aggravation with the film was felt throughout the table. 


I love this character.  One of my best friends is Paul Dini, he was a groomsman at my wedding.   I’ve spent countless geeky conversations talking Batman and these characters with him – and watching this “FINAL” story play out.   It’s just fucking ridiculous.


I put SPOILER WARNINGS ALL OVER THIS – BECAUSE I HAVE TO DISCUSS THE ATROCIOUS END OF THIS TRAVESTY….   But this is where I’m going to go into it.  So do not scan down, do not read the talkbacks.   If you want to know – go ahead, but steer clear otherwise….























OK – now we’re talking about the final act of the film.   OH WAIT – before that, let’s get into the boring as fuck middle of this travesty.   The first act of the film is slowly building the coming of BANE.   Gotham has come upon a new day, crime free.   So they’re completely unprepared for what’s coming.   The Football incident we’ve seen in the trailers, yeah…   That is indeed the biggest thing that happens in the film.   Bane doesn’t blow up the city, buildings do not topple.   That straight up shot of the city going to pieces and the light becomes the bat symbol?  That’s just a promo image – we never see that scale of devastation.  No, what happens is that Bane blows all the bridges but one.   Basically turning Manhattan into an island.   He’s got a bomb that’s blast radius of 6 miles essentially means – everyone on the island will die…  eventually.   Bane introduces his master plan at that football game, rolls out the largest Nuke device I’ve seen in a flick since the original bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.   Only one person in the world can disarm it and Bane kills him in front of everyone, telling the world that there is a regular citizen in the city with the trigger…  but the device will go off all on its own in like 90 days or so.


At this point BATMAN is in a prison somewhere in the world (shot in India – it’s supposed to be the same place that BANE was raised in – but is definitely not Caribbean in nature)   This is done so quickly that you’re not really sure how or when exactly Bane decided to take Bruce Wayne to the other side of the world, before flying halfway around the world again to destroy Gotham.   His back apparently has a vertebrae protruding out of socket, but after the prison chiropractor hits the vertebrae back in place, it just takes Wayne a few weeks to get back on his feet.  


Meanwhile all the Gotham police are stuck in a sewer for the same amount of time, but don’t worry they’ll emerge looking clean and healthy.   Except for Joseph Gordon Levitt and Gary Oldman’s wounded Commissioner Gordon…  oh and Matthew Modine.   I’m not real sure what the brilliant plan by the cops where – to send every cop in the city all through the same entrance of the sewer – all at the same time was.   But there’s not much brilliance at play here.  


Bane’s holding the entire city hostage – and if anyone from anywhere tries to do anything, ka-boom.   Not real sure how the citizenry of any city would get behind a Lord Humongous type, especially if his way of introducing himself was to blow up your local football team – athletes that apparently people paid to watch play – and at the very least – you’ve fucking ruined the game they came to watch.  


When the film hits this section, logic goes every which way.   You never really get a sense of the passage of time.   Apparently garbage pick up is still going on, because the streets don’t seem clogged.   In fact, everything seems to be running fairly normal – even if you’ve been cut off from the world.   There’s some FEMA trucks with supplies. 


It is just at this stage that the film loses all sense of urgency.   I mean, you have a city with a strange respirator men with an army of thugs and every hardened criminal in the city – and it doesn’t end up looking like Old Detroit from ROBOCOP?   I mean – there’s 1000s armed bad guys and the city isn’t being raped and pillaged.   Instead they set up courts to make people walk on ice?   


Anne Hathaway is fine in the role, but Catwoman is more or less just a jewel thief with a dislike for the well off folks of the world, but she never gets the showy scenes or lines that Michelle had in BATMAN RETURNS.   She doesn’t particularly seem to have any history, besides files to be read, but little of it can be read upon her.   Certainly not enough to justify what allegedly in going on at the very end of the film.   But more on that later.  


Joseph Gordon Levitt is the best single thing about the film.   Until they call him ROBIN at the end, where I just call BULLSHIT, but even before that because man – if you thought there were multiple endings in RETURN OF THE KING, wait for all the reveals at the end of this.


At the point where we got a shot out of TRUE LIES (which did it better) of a Nuclear Blast off in the distance.  First off – given what we know of radiation – there’s a very good chance that everyone in Gotham is gonna have cancer over the next few decades of their lives.   But what is it with heroes and atomic bombs these days.   Everyone seems to be pulling an Iron Giant.


Of course any of that emotion is bullshit, because the way this movie takes back anything definitive throughout the rest of the film….  Well, it’s like it wants to say… “Haha, we didn’t mean it.   They’re all ok!  See see, we could do another one if we ever wanted to!”   The film just didn’t have the courage of its convictions.



And no, I didn’t want fucking BATMAN to stay dead.   I think it’s bullshit to even try to claim you’ve killed a Superhero.   I don’t want TRILOGIES – I want sustained series – like what we have with JAMES BOND.   But I’m happy they want to end THIS Batman series.


Nolan is so caught up on making it real, that he only makes it real mediocre.    We have a Utility Belt in this film that never has anything of particular use upon it.   The toe to toe fight with Bane is the most unBatman fight you’ll ever see in your life.   The choreography was not dynamic.   The character motivations all feel like scripted bullshit.   By the time Batman is completely disabled by a 2.5 inch blade in the lower rib area…   My eyes were exhausted with rolling – and there was so much more to come.   


Then when they decide to unveil Talia al Ghul – and then just apparently kill her.    And yeah – it just pissed me off.   Talia Al Ghul is a great character.   Here…  she’s just a convenient plot twist.   That’s all.   


Liam Neeson’s cameo hallucination is also vaguely unnerving.   Especially since he looks older and his beard is styled differently, but maybe Bruce’s imagination is just really good at that sort of thing.


For all the talk about this being the END of Batman.   For all the talk that this will be impossible to follow for any filmmaker.   They’re insane.  


This isn’t an embarrassing chapter.   But it is by far the most inept of Nolan’s run.   The lack of impact this film gave me was genuinely shocking.  


When the rep asked me for my thoughts immediately after the film, I was at a full head of steam and spouted that I thought it was a fucking waste of $250 million and BATMAN.   It’s just such a deflating film.  


At least if you know the kind of stories and action that are inherent to this property.  I found the film to be, essentially a mess.   I expected a lot more out of this.   A lot more.   I found it to feel exactly like what happens when someone that thinks they’re better than the source material gets a hold of something and just is in the process of washing their hands with it.  


Ultimately I’m sure many will enjoy it.  Already I’ve heard from friends that have enjoyed it.   I’m not sure why all my friends that I saw it with tonight came out angry at the film, while they loved it and were completely smitten.  


There is no apocalyptic vision on display here.   Pretty sure more people actually died in THE DARK KNIGHT.   That film was certainly a much sharper tale – and nobody comes close to delivering the iconic performance that Heath Ledger did.  


Let’s find a director that loves Batman, that gets the different ages of the character, the different scopes that the character plays on – and doesn’t do something so plainly one note.   There’s some beautiful shots here, the stunt work is exceptional on a couple of key things.  I like most Bruce Wayne moments, until he’s in the prison, which is just ridiculous bullshit start to finish.   Love Joseph Gordon Levitt’s character, Gary Oldman’s Gordon – like Anne Hathaway, but Bane as the Lord Humongous – just didn’t do it for me.   The film felt exhausted, Nolan repeats so many themes, as though he had nothing new to explore.   That’s a good reason to leave the series, but really – after watching it, I wish Nolan had left at two like Burton.   Maybe 2 is the lucky number for BATMAN directors.   BUT nobody should ever try to continue their work, just start over from scratch.


We need someone that isn’t afraid of any aspect of the Batman universe.   Someone that knows that MANBAT & CLAYFACE could be awesome.    A BATMAN movie doesn’t have to hinge on saving the whole of a city.   Nor the world.   BATMAN can be about something that happened in a single night, or over years.    BATMAN is incredibly flexible – and BATMAN doesn’t give up.   He isn’t a quitter.   He is so much more than what Nolan has made him.  So much more than Hollywood has even begun to hint at.


We haven’t seen a BATMAN movie that kicked RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK’s ass.   But we could.  One day.    BATMAN deserves so much more style and flourish than this drab flick.   


If some how you find you love the film and were blown away.  I envy you.   If you did love the film – if you think this just kicked everything you’ve seen this year away.   I beg you, go to a comic shop, buy some BATMAN comics…   Order the BATMAN ANIMATED SERIES…   Play ARKHAM ASYLUM.   Learn more about the character, you’re going to smile so much.   This really is in many ways the greatest character in the history of comics – and he’s so much more than what the feature films that Hollywood has given us.   DARK KNIGHT is the pinnacle.   Somebody, kick its ass…  I dare ya.

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  • July 19, 2012, 2:07 a.m. CST


    by KevinMuller

  • July 19, 2012, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Bring Back Adam West!

    by davidaq

  • July 19, 2012, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Harry doesn't connect with Nolan

    by KevinMuller

    This isn't surprising. I don't totally disagree with his taste sometimes. I am not going into this film with the same excitement as I did for Dark Knight. This is Batman done a different way and I feel that we people who have embraced Nolan's version will be just fine with it.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Ja,ja! Harry loved Cristal Skull more than Inception!

    by Lourdes Galan

    Who cares? Movie is outstanding

  • July 19, 2012, 2:11 a.m. CST

    uh oh

    by Tighxo

    This is going to get ugly...

  • July 19, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST

    Of course this was going to be bad...

    by BeMoreFunny

    Begins was cool because it was such a fresh take on Batman; Dark Knight was great SOLELY because of Heath Ledger. Take the freshness and Ledger away, and you get Dark Knight Rises.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST

    Ive never seen a legitimate review from Harry

    by saint seiya

    seriously, has anyone ever really taken this dude's reviews seriously?

  • July 19, 2012, 2:13 a.m. CST

    That last paragraph of yours was kinda condescending...

    by cotygeek

    It's like you're suggesting that anyone who enjoys this film must have zero understanding of the character.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:13 a.m. CST

    Well, it must be great.

    by justmyluck

  • July 19, 2012, 2:14 a.m. CST

    and cue the hate in 5...4...3...2...1........

    by sam jacksons wig

  • July 19, 2012, 2:16 a.m. CST

    So, Harry's pissed off

    by mongo126

    Hell, I think TDKR just went up a couple of points in my book. He's pissed off because it's not HIS Batman? Boo fucking hoo.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:17 a.m. CST

    From the man who loved "Van Helsing"

    by pomofo

  • July 19, 2012, 2:17 a.m. CST


    by MrDark

    Sounds like Harry didn't get any super private swag from Nolan.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:18 a.m. CST

    Wow, this will be a fun talkback :)

    by DidntPullOutInTimeCop

    Thanks Harry!

  • July 19, 2012, 2:18 a.m. CST

    plotholes are not acceptable in tdkr but are in prometheus

    by mike

    logic never fails harry...

  • instead of him usually spewing his love for garbage movies... im sure tdkr is a garbage movie but the fact that harry doesnt like it is suspect... especially when you look at harry's track record of "positive" reviews

  • July 19, 2012, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Angry Harry.

    by Lacobus

    I'm shocked. Shocked I tells ya.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:22 a.m. CST

    but Prometheus delivered a big fanboy money shot at the end.

    by mongo126

    all is forgiven.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Maybe Harry just likes his movies to be a little fun...

    by gaygoonie

    Or give a little joy. This thing looks like a nine hundred pound gorilla with no humor or fun. Fuck Nolan and his suit-wearing, humorless approach to cinematic storytelling.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST



    but if you remember, I hated that shot

  • July 19, 2012, 2:25 a.m. CST

    I take Harry's negative reviews as positives all the time.

    by Randy

    He's one of the worst film critics I have ever read in my life, his way of explaining why he likes or dislike a film is just silly as hell. I mean, I guess this movie was no Green Harry, you need to drop the you know Batman better than all of us crap that you came off with in the last paragraph. You have shown multiple times you have some strange tastes, you loved awful films like Nightmare on Elm Street and John Carter. Don't ever tell anybody anything about your thoughts on Batman, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:25 a.m. CST



    Actually - I didn't even mention the stuff they were railing on that I didn't initiate. That table was crazy angry. But hey - you had two guys that ran a comic shop in Louisville. One comic artist. & Scorekeeper

  • July 19, 2012, 2:26 a.m. CST


    by pearlanddean

    My main gripe with Prometheus was not the daft plot holes or the seemingly illogical decisions of certain characters. It was the marketing that gave away practically everything about the film including the climactic spaceship crash. That was a disappointment. The only surprise we had was the reveal of the space jockeys and the creature at the end. Both of which I could happily have lived without. Oh yeah, finally saw Battleship last night. If this is the future of Hollywood, then it's truly screwed.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Nolan not a fan of Harry or this site

    by saint seiya

    hence the negative reviews for nolans films.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:28 a.m. CST


    by mongo126

    Point taken, but I think if you bought into Nolan's first 2 Batman movies, he's just following through with his movie making style. Nolan likes complicated movies. Sometimes, I think he tries to push the audience when he doesn't need to. I'm seeing it Friday, regardless of reviews, because, well, I have a brain. However, the Robin thing is gross.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:29 a.m. CST


    by chris

    Seriously? This isn't much of a review but more a run down of the whole movie. You want a real review that doesn't ruin the whole movie, check out

  • July 19, 2012, 2:31 a.m. CST

    so... harry will hate every nolan for now on right?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    i didnt read the review, but with nolan's last movie and harry's review of it, WE ALL KNOW NOT TO TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY AS A FILM CRITIC/WATCHER/PERSON WITH EYEBALLS I imagine an alternate universe where Nolan sends Harry a stained napkin with a Batman logo on it... which results in a giggle galore, overtly positive review of the movie in short: harry, you have no credibility. youre a sellout and a horrible one at that. and you are easily bought. GIGGLES

  • July 19, 2012, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry, how's the rehab going?

    by mongo126

    Where's the updates on that?

  • it could happen, i guess?

  • July 19, 2012, 2:33 a.m. CST


    by mike

    Im sorry that I come off strong with the hate. I really love how "in love" you are with cinema but I just have a hard time wrapping my head around some of your favorite movies... It seems to me that you disliked TDKR for reasons that you would ignore in another movie. I don't even remember your TDK review but I remember Drew's, and I really feel like him and I have similar opinions. You also fell asleep during Inception (yes I know this is off topic) but I really don't think you like Nolan. And Nolan has a lot more to prove but from what he has done so far, I'm impressed..

  • July 19, 2012, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the thoughts, Harry

    by elvenblade

    Having loved the first two Nolan films, I'm still very excited for TDKR, but my enthusiasm has waned from reading multiple reviews. Many of the positive ones seem forced, like the reviewers were digging for things to like about the film. I agree 100% that no physically capable incarnation of Batman would ever fucking hang up his cape, not over a woman, not for eight fucking years, not over anything. Bruce needs Batman, and Gotham needs both. End of story. That simple fact alone tells me that this third act is going to be severely lacking in badassery. Mr. Nolan, if you want to force philosophical character studies onto comic book characters, fill your films with over-the-top situations disguised as gritty realism and have a Batman movie where Batman takes an hour to show up, keep that shit to yourself. Leave your experimentation to your more personal films, and give the world the proper Batman VS Bane fight we've been waiting for for decades. Don't get me wrong, I'm still looking forward to the film. But I've had major issues with everything I've seen and read about so far (and yes, I enjoyed the IMAX Prologue, except for the fact that I couldn't understand a word of Bane's dialogue). Maybe someday in the future after Synder's Man of Steel someone will properly adapt "The Dark Knight Returns".

  • July 19, 2012, 2:37 a.m. CST

    wb didnt pay their protection money

    by walt

  • July 19, 2012, 2:39 a.m. CST

    It looked like shit anyway

    by bloody_shit_on_my_dick

    Thanks for the honest review Harry. The trailers for this movie sucked. It looked boring as fuck and that's the last thing Batman should be. After Ledger died, it fucked up the story Nolan was going to tell. So we get stuck with Nolan phoning it in and giving us the bastardized version of "his vision". Fuck Nolan in his hipster ass, reboot this shit and do it right the next time.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:39 a.m. CST

    nolan tried to do miller's dkr...missed the point

    by walt

    he pretty much missed the point of bats for the entire guys gave him a pass

  • July 19, 2012, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Hanging up the cape because he let Rachel die

    by mike

    Bruce feels the guilt of it, right? It isnt that he just misses her it has to be because he feels responsible for allowing her to die on his watch. He couldnt be there for her when she was for him. I think that is some heavy shit to deal with plus everything that happened in TDK with being on the run from the police. That seems more like the reason why he would give up the cape and cowl...

  • July 19, 2012, 2:40 a.m. CST

    Harry's right

    by Gregory McNiff

    Just saw it. Harry's review is spot on. The logical flaws in this movie would be unforgivable from a lesser director. Aiming for an epic narrative, Nolan delivers a bloated mess of a film, which is an insult to anyone who CARES about Batman. He is clearly exhausted with the material to the point some of the direction is just sloppy, e.g., switching from day to night in mid-scene. (I guess $250 million only buys so much.) When it was finally over, my only response was, wow I didn't fully appreciate Ledger's performance in TDK.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Most coherent review Harry's written in ages--

    by Laserhead

    And it's real fucked-up that I almost completely agree with him. I totally have no idea what anyone could be talking about when they call this a good film.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:43 a.m. CST

    The one repeating criticism that is bizarre to me

    by tomdolan04

    is the whole 'THIS IS NOT BATMAN' angle. <p> 'You don't understand Batman' Nolan, they cry. To be a director whose spent probably best part of a decade being aware of the franchise, reading, researching, taking part in meetings and about half of that decade breathing it 24/7, directing it, making intricate callbacks to its 60-70 year history, trying to make it contemporary whilst classic and loaded with the budget responsibilities $250million has attached - and then get people shouting that at him, it must be fucking hillarious. <p> Constructive film critique about plot and everything else is fair game but that one line is just absolutely nuts considering the assorted variations of Batman. Frankly if you look at the multiple takes and hundreds of stories, objectively some are just plain ridiculous.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Look, I think, obviously, Harry is a poo-brain. But this SUCKED--

    by Laserhead

    FACT. This was awful. And it pains me to agree with Harry. I hate his fucking opinions so much. I even hate this opinion, on which I agree. It's just a damn shitty truth to have to live with: 'The Dark Knight Rises' is a shitty, dumb movie.

  • avengers and dirty laundry...the only two good comic related movies this summer summer of 2012....worst summer for films in 20 years

  • July 19, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Nolan's work is clinical, but without heart...

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    He's the smartest kid in the class, but not one that makes for good company. The Prestige is easily his most complete film.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:49 a.m. CST

    For the record...

    by cw

    Alfred did resign during the Knightfall story because of Bruce's behavior and since this is basically that story...then when Bruce gets better he sees that Azrael is doing a ok job of being Batman...even tho he wasnt..and lets him keep the job...thus giving up the mantle of the bat. Nightwing being Batman..that's bullshit...wait...he was. I get it, you didn't like it..but everything that apparently happens...happened. Just a different interpretation and means of getting there. The Talia/Ras thing just ties up loose ends I guess.

  • Giving every shit by the numbers/playing it safe comicbook movie raving reviews and when the best modern filmmaker comes around and tries something new, something daring even... you hate it. Of course. Nolan took Batman in a direction that he never was before and for that alone, the movie is great.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Saw the movie yesterday....

    by huskerdu2

    ...and it's fantastic. And Clayface? Manbat?!? God love ya, Harry....

  • July 19, 2012, 2:59 a.m. CST

    What Chris Nolan Says About DKR

    by DutchRudder

    "Can I have the room, please...................... MY EMPIRE IS CRUMBLING!!!!!!!" - Chris Nolan, July '12.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Hey mouthbreathers...

    by david hambre

    Get over it. Fact is, this movie is nowhere near the Messianic opus you all have been so adamantly convinced that it was preordained to become. Did it ever occur to you that Nolan pigeon-holed and hamstrung himself by rooting his vision of Batman in such starkly-realistic tones that the stakes never really elevate from film to film? In Batman Begins, we had our hero battling a criminal mastermind with an army of freed prison inmates at his disposal. In The Dark Knight, we had our hero battling a criminal mastermind with an army of freed prison inmates at his disposal. In The Dark Knight Rises, we have our hero battling a criminal mastermind with an ar...ah hell, you get the picture. Did you not think this whole premise would get stale after a while? Once I saw the first trailer for TDKR I thought to myself "This is the same freaking movie as BB". Not a good thing at all. Harry is only espousing what a few critics brave enough to weather the nerd-onslaught of vitriol have stated: This movie is decent; pretty good in areas and portentously overblown in others. Deal with it.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Wait... Nolan's the best modern filmmaker?

    by Messiahman

    Man, somebody better tell P.T. Anderson, since he's been leaving Nolan in the dust for years.

  • The only reason I want to see DARK KNIGHT RISES again, is to see the MAN OF STEEL trailer in front of it.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:03 a.m. CST

    So it's not as good as Van Helsing?

    by syn_flood

    Or the Nightmare On Elm Street remake? xD

  • July 19, 2012, 3:05 a.m. CST

    I know, PTA is amazing, Punch Drunk Love is a master..

    by Randy

    LOL The guy made one of the best films of the decade to be sure, but he hadn't made a great film since Magnolia in 99. Nolan is making great films every couple years, doing new things and being consistent. I love PTA, but don't act like he's been kicking Nolans ass, the dude only made 2 years in the last decade, one was great and one was just good.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Manbat? Really?

    by JPM

    In what world does anyone make or honestly want a Manbat movie? The reboot coming you are going to get Riddler and Penguin and then probably Joker again. Not Clayface. Jesus Christ why not just ask for KGBeast.


  • and was the reason for his dislike of the plot, logic, and other problems with the movie.... People want Nolan to stick to one tone and thats that. If it is not going to be an illogical and possibly goofy comic book movie then it has to be completely serious and has to be more solid than adamantium while being fully insulated from plot holes... I think Harry fell into this category and thats why he hasnt been so forgiving...

  • July 19, 2012, 3:12 a.m. CST

    badmrwonka, that's an inspired meme.

    by Randy

  • July 19, 2012, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Afraid he's pretty much right

    by scumbag

    The fight where Bane breaks the Bat is shocking in it's meh-ness. Just found I didn't care about anything or anyone in the movie, but I remember I laughed twice; there were 2 good jokes. But when Anne Hathaway actually said "Cat got your tongue?" I knew we were in trouble.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST

    What has been worth seeing in 2012 so far?

    by pearlanddean

    The Avengers, The Raid : Redemption and that's about it. Everything else has been the usual let-down. Although Get the Gringo was pretty entertaining. I'm looking forward to Dredd and that's it.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:16 a.m. CST

    You exemplify why geeks know fuck all

    by 1000movies

    All that matters is Bruce Wayne is Batman and he's super rich in a place called Gotham. That's it. Beyond that, you can do whatever you want with Batman pretty much. All this condescending horseshit about read the comics and play the video games? Yeah, sorry, I'd rather fuck girls, which you probably have no idea about. The fact that you liked PROMETHEUS is all anybody needs to know about your bloated hack ass: you know fuck all about movies. Kill your site and hang it up. Please.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:18 a.m. CST

    Chris Nolan's "Ineption"

    by captaincurse

  • this is the aspect people are having the most trouble with: everything down from the clock on the doomsday device to the last minute twist endings and campy/big reveals... strong wtf

  • July 19, 2012, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Cool! I normally love the movies Harry hates (and vice versa)

    by manuehl

    Just for the record: Harry loved Crystal Skull and Green Lantern... nuff said! Gonna see it in IMAX on Saturday night, can't wait.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Oh, and the one shot I was looking forward to...

    by scumbag

    when the hottest stuntwoman in the world rides the Batpod down the stairs of the courthouse...didn't make the movie!

  • July 19, 2012, 3:24 a.m. CST


    by tyler_turden

    I truly didn't see that coming. To (almost) completely shitcan this film is pretty ridiculous. I don't think it is perfect, but it is truly epic and deeply involving. My take:

  • July 19, 2012, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Seriously though

    by JPM


  • Seriously, just tell us you get checks from Disney and we call it even. Or better yet, perks.

  • Like wth?

  • Batman does not quit. The eight year hiatus is bullshit. No way the death of Rachel or even Harvey dent would override the death of Bruce's parents. He would double his efforts. He's not going to retire or ever stop protecting gotham. He sure as Hell wouldn't leave it to some untrained cop. Especially after seeing dent turn psycho in Tdk. Nolan doesn't understand batman. Hes confusef him with the Phantom or Zorro or something. You can't just put on the suit and be Batman. Bruce Wayne is Batman. Period. I too look forward to a reboot. Hand that shit over to dini and timm. Do it right this time. I want to watch a Batman movie. If I wanted to see a movie with a guy not being Batman, I would just watch an Adam sandler movie or something.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:30 a.m. CST


    by LethargicJ

    Not liking the movie is one thing, but the reasons for it are really childish. This whole review basically boils down to not being able to separate the Batman of the comic books from the Batman of Nolan's universe. I completely agree that the Batman of the comic books would NEVER give up being Batman after Rachel's death. But the Batman in the comic books isn't supposed to be a real person and that's not who this Batman is. I'd wager I'm a much bigger Batman fan than Harry is and part of WHY I love Batman is that it's a character open to numerous different interpretation. Whether it's the Frank Miller Batman, the Grant Morrison Batman, Batman Beyond, Batman in Gotham by Gaslight, Paul Dini's Batman, Batman 100, Adam West, Val Kilmer, the old dude from the serials, Super Friends, we've literally seen 100s of variations of Batman at this point. Nolan's is just another variation and it's not the same as any of those others. This entire review basically boils down to what Harry's Batman would do and what Harry wants to see Batman do and what Harry's Batman is like. But this is Nolan's Batman. He's telling HIS story, he's not trying to tell somebody else's. He's not trying to put the comic book on screen. He's crafting his own world. It's not up to him to try to replicate what Frank Miller's Batman would do, or Denny O'Neil's Batman would do, or Paul Dini's Batman would do and it damn sure ain't to replicate what Harry's Batman would do. Yes, you're 100% right, the Batman in my mind would never give up being Batman over a woman. Never. But it's not my Batman, it's Nolan's. And after 2 movies I understand that and I understand the type of Batman he's creating. Nolan's work should be judged on it's own merit. It shouldn't be judged with your biased outlook of what Batman should and should not be.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:34 a.m. CST

    set visits, etc...


    Guys - y'all want to get into this? Let's go. I produced the COMIC CON EPISODE IV: A FAN'S HOPE. Thomas Tull brought me on for that. Thomas Tull is the head of LEGENDARY - which made DARK KNIGHT RISES. I have a toy of me, there's 20,000 toys of me, because of Tull. Not only that, but LEGENDARY just bought NERDIST, so in a way - he's financing my show on NERDIST. SO me shitting on this film. It's probably the stupidest thing imaginable to do - EXCEPT - it is how I feel. And I'm not happy about it. Watch the show tomorrow morning. I do a preview of the film, which is honestly exactly how I felt going in. Tomorrow I tape with Quint... who also saw DARK KNIGHT RISES tonight. I would love to love this film exactly as I loved DARK KNIGHT. But I can't. I can't even pretend to. It has nothing to do with anything other than how I reacted to everything in the film. I love the way Batman's THE BAT flies and swoops - and there's one shot where he is landing on this rooftop with Catwoman that seriously evokes awesome. BUT there are far too few of those. I'm also developing a film at LEGENDARY. I have every reason in the world to phone in a smile. But I never have and I never will. My tastes may suck next to your awesome opinion some days, but it is my opinion.

  • ... while a common inference of 'passion' or 'sincerity', using the words as you do gives the perception of a 10 year old boy who's just learned how to swear with his friends. It largely cancels any legitimacy or relevancy of your posting, and lacks imagination as well as dignity or pride. My Great Uncle Hagstrom once told me, "If you have anything worth saying, then it's worth saying with intelligence and creativity. Swearing is for fools and braggarts, and is an indication of a weak mind." Food for thought? It's NOT that I don't appreciate what you're trying to say in your posts, and IF what your saying, IN CONTEXT of the film is true, then I would largely agree with you. However, you lose credibility when your post degrades into an infantile tantrum or tirade. Christ on a crutch, I realize your actually a blogger and not a real writer, but you've been at this for the better part of 2 decades, and your posts are STILL train-wrecks and grammatical garbage.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:39 a.m. CST

    harry, you liked prometheus

    by Jaymie69

    nuff said


  • July 19, 2012, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Yeah but Manbat

    by JPM

    Can't get past that to even get annoyed about Clayface

  • God knows how many so called critics just say what elitist film nerds want to hear just to avoid making waves.

  • July 19, 2012, 4 a.m. CST

    For once I agree with Harry...

    by Imagined Realms

    After having just come back from watching the trilogy at our local IMAX here in Melbourne, Australia - my feelings were pretty much exactly the same as Harry's - and more often than not, I tend to think his reviews are over sentimental, uncritical fawning pieces.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Ebert liked it

    by lock67ca

    Even though he said it had its flaws. Good enough endorsement for me.

  • one thing I do agree with him on in retrospect is that Bruce hanging up the cowl the night that Dent dies was wayyy out of character. They could have had him keep fighting for a couple of years at least and then hung up the cowl for all of the reasons that he does. Other than that, I think he's quite a bit of a hater. I explain the citizenry of Gotham getting behind Bane from the fact that he put them in a position where they were totally screwed - they were completely at his mercy. What else is there to do but lay low, let the crazies have their moment and wait for someone to figure out how to clean up the mess. (btw, how could you not see the bombs detonating all over the freaking city?? That was a major plot point that flips JGL's car!) Yes, Bruce recovering from the injury was a little too conveniently quick, but they could only drag that out so far. Besides, as much as I love TAS it's not like they didn't wuss out on that moment when they had the opportunity either. Yes it sucks that they didn't use Venom, but Bane being a disciple of the League of Shadows is an agreeable compromise. The twist of him not being Ra's' son is also fine as it erases most of that backstory and allows him to have the Caribbean background that we all know and love. And you talk about how you wanted them to refer to the comics more, but how could you not see that this is the movie that so clearly referred to them?? No Man's Land, Knightfall, Robin becoming Batman, Talia, Gordon's wife leaving him, it was all there man! And Selina Kyle finally ends up with fucking Bruce Wayne! It was the ending we've (well at least I've) always wanted to see!

  • July 19, 2012, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Batman NEVER quit huh..

    by cw

    ..don't insult us with your "knowledge" of Batman. In what many people will regard as the greatest Batman story every told...The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller. You have read this, right?? Bruce Wayne QUIT/RETIRED after the death of Jason Todd. He QUIT/RETIRED for 10/TEN/2 more than the 8 in TDKR freakin years people!! Because one person died..sound familiar? He then faked his own death in the end so he could QUIT again!! Sound familiar? A combination of Knightfall and TDKR..somone close to him died, he mentally shuts down and retires, Gotham is in trouble, he comes back gets f'd up, comes back again and wins, fakes his own death, retires again and someone else becomes Batman. Did I miss anything Harry because this is Batman lore combined, I would have figured someone of your Batman wisdom would know this.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Sorry to hear you didn't care for it

    by A_Banned_Apart

    It's not going to keep me from seeing it, of course. I look forward to re-reading your thoughts on the film after I've caught it myself.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:13 a.m. CST

    HEY HARRY, why did you spoil the ending?

    by UMAGA

    That's fucking unprofessional. Even if you hated the movie, how about some respect for the artists involved? Not to mention the people that invited you to the screening. If I was WB, I'd make sure you never see another film in advance. I hope Legendary Pictures drops your film.

  • Can't comment on your actual review because I haven't seen the movie yet.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Man-Bat and Clayface would've ruled.

    by Felix

    When I first saw Batman Begins, I thought it would've been awesome to see Nolan's "realistic" take on villians like Man-Bat and Clayface. A thoroughly comic book-ish character taken absolutely seriously. It would've been awesome, but instead he decided to make already ordinary human villians even more ordinary. I mean, Catwoman isn't even called Catwoman for crying outloud. And how long was Bruce Batman anyways? A total of one year, but we're supposed to buy that he has "zero cartilidge" now? He had state of the art body armor and enough money to pay the greatest medical doctors in the world and he's only just NOW after 8 years discovered he has no cartilige? And I liked that scene when I saw it in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 2 where I also saw the "Spider-Man No More!" storyline. So we get a finle to the Batman Saga with it taking 40 minutes to see Batman for the first time, and a second act where he's locked up in a cave until the 3rd act that undermines everything that came before it by a bunch of GOTCHA! momments.

  • EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE has been running on the three L's: Leftovers Ledger Left. Not one trailer for this film looks good. Not one. I'll see it later I honestly think that I shall end up agreeing with Harry on this one.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Also, I fucking knew it! It was the INCEPTION review that convinced me. .

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • July 19, 2012, 4:18 a.m. CST

    Also, this probably means that the movie is actually great.

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • July 19, 2012, 4:21 a.m. CST


    by Lacobus

    I may not always agree with him, but I'm gonna quite happily listen to his opinion for the rest of my life. Mans a legend. End of Discussion.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:24 a.m. CST

    You get like this every month, Harry.

    by Johnny Wishbone

    It's almost like you're having a man-period.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:27 a.m. CST

    I can't believe I'm going to say this, but...

    by Marc Savage

    ... I totally agree with you on this one Harry. I came out last night disappointed. At this stage I'm in a minor rage. I was at a screening that had the european premiere showing live beforehand and i understand now why Hardy seemed like he didn't want to be there. Very, very disappointing.

  • retard. and yes, you didn't like inception, because there werent any vampires or werewolves in it. or was that reloaded? dont care

  • July 19, 2012, 4:32 a.m. CST

    to cmdr_ace_hunter

    by Marc Savage

    I know what you're saying mate, in fact i used The Dark Knight Returns to defend the movie after i saw it to friends and myself, but now that I had time to think about it, it still doesn't work. Showing reverence to the comic isn't enough, you still need a good story that works and sadly, this ain't that movie. The death of Rachel is one thing, but like Burton's Batman it seems Bruce/Bats is only motivated by women now and that is nothing to do with what the character is about. All in all it's stunningly lazy in parts. Massively disappointing.

  • Instead of actually reviewing what was actually on the screen. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight didn't follows the comics much either ;)

  • July 19, 2012, 4:33 a.m. CST

    I'm also developing a film at LEGENDARY."

    by Windowlicker74

    yeah sure. just like ghost town and john carter. please don't bullshit your readers harry

  • July 19, 2012, 4:35 a.m. CST

    WAAAAAH there was no Batusi WAAAAAAH!

    by Tristan

    Your'e stupid if you don't realise that Nolan cherry-picks from the comics and does his own thing. The Dini Batman is great, but it's not bible. Did you complain that the Joker was not permawhite? It's an ALTERNATIVE version of Batman with many of the core elements intact. It's about what happens to a real person when things are fucked up and people around them die. And, yes, I would like to add that there are sci-fi elements but they rest in general plausibility. Perhaps in this world, the fallout could have been maintained by another sci-fi machine, keeping everyone safe?

  • July 19, 2012, 4:37 a.m. CST

    and what the FUCK has batman got to do with raiders?

    by Windowlicker74

    christ man get out of your wheel chair and grow up

  • July 19, 2012, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Atleast the property is too valuable

    by Chairman_Kaga

    So eventually the studio will start over again with another film series.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Harrys whining as usual

    by Clayface

    what a surprise. Seriously learn to have an open mind about movies sometime and not expect what your lazy fanboy ass wants. Manbat in a Batman movie?! That would kill the reboot. No sane person is going to want to see a man bat hybrid as a villain. You're a hypocrite. You bash Nolan's realism, yet you still liked Joker without being drenched in acid? You liked Two-Face without him being splashed with acid? Don't even get me started on Ras Al Ghul... You're logic makes no sense on this review and bottom-line you are being a whiny fanboy that went in with high hopes and they got destroyed. Good. I'm glad someone like you didn't enjoy this movie because I absolutely loved it. I'm a gigantic batfan, as were a few of my friends that seen it last evening in Australia and we all loved it. Maybe you just love to complain? All your reviews these days seem to be garbage so this is the final nail in the coffin. This is the last time I visit your site. As for the people on the comments that enjoyed the movie great :D if you didnt great! Just don't be a hypocrite like Harry :)

  • July 19, 2012, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Fact is, most of the films Harry likes are 99% dross

    by barnaby jones

    Any credibility was lost years ago. I like you dude, i admire the passion, but really i find it hard to relate, you have dire taste.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:48 a.m. CST




  • July 19, 2012, 4:51 a.m. CST




  • July 19, 2012, 4:52 a.m. CST

    Is Harry disappointed because

    by Joe

    everyone else has heaped praise on the movie and the only way to stand out is by disagreeing for the sake of it? I obviously haven't seen it yet but given that the word so far is that it's fantastic, I'm surprised by this reaction. Before people jump on me, of course I'm not saying Harry or anyone else doesn't have the right to dislike the movie or any movie. It's just that this seems to be ostentatiously setting out its stall as a very vocal attack amidst what has been, so far, a unanimous chorus of approval from all corners of the media. I wonder if this is a movie that in about 5 years time, he'll "suddenly" reassess as being amazing.

  • Godzilla do linger in the mind.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:55 a.m. CST

    For once I agree with Harry.

    by jack Bauer

    Normally Harry is shall we say a little over passionate about some film types he likes and in this review he comes across as over passionate but for once I can actually feel his anger. Batman is an iconic badd ass character, he's driven by revenge and hatred, he despises the underworld, he knows just how deadly it can be how it can destroy a life with a flick. Now that made him and avenging dark figure, a man with grit and determination, no matter how he's knocked down every inch of him tries to get up to get the job done. Judging by Harry's review they have tossed all that out the window and made him a semi broken man initially, that is NOT Batman or Bruce Wayne, first and foremost it was the character of Bruce that lost everything, batman was just an identity to help Bruce get his revenge, the outside world see's the playboy but Bruce does not need the suit to feel the anger, its in him always. So to destroy Bruce over the death of a GF is nonsense, yes its a blip and a painful one but Bruce has seen much worse and that made the Batman he is, the Batman would not be smashed so easily. As for the fights, the ones I saw in the trailer looked awkward, this wasn't the awesome Batman, this was a guy in a costume seen on Youtube having one of those loser fights. But for me the biggest waste was not to super up Bane, the Bane I know is a monster, a violent destructive monster who oozes power and violence, Tom looks ok but he's like a cheap Bane imitation. Perhaps Harry is right and its an end to something that started so well and just finished like a damp squib. As harry said...MEGA SPOLER here..Do not read on if you want to watch the film unspoilt. You don't kill off a Super hero like that...

  • July 19, 2012, 4:55 a.m. CST

    we went from nipples on the bat suit to batman being treated with respect


    i sometimes think this modern era harry longs for the days of bat nipples

  • July 19, 2012, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Harry you didn't get the memo

    by Nerd Rage

    You're not allowed to disapprove of a Nolan movie. Want something else from a Batman movie? Well you should still rubberstamp every Nolan Batman movie with approval just because the elitist film nerds say so. Yes most of them already decided TDKR is the best Batman movie without seeing it. But why would that hurt anyone's credibility but yours?

  • July 19, 2012, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Please excuse the curse of the club typing hands above

    by jack Bauer

    Message to self, read through your post before submitting it...

  • July 19, 2012, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Saw it at midnight - it fucking blows

    by unparanoid_android

    have to agree with Harry. After Begins and TDK, Rises is a piece of shit dressed up like a high piece of art. Almost every decision the Nolans have made turns out to be a bad one from Batman retiring (what the FUCK?!) to a friggin nuclear bomb exploding across the river (the fallout and radiation alone would doom Gotham for decades)...just pure bullshit decsions from start to finish. I hate to say it but Nolan did this one out of arrogance (It's MY Batman story and I'm gonna end it!) This is his worst film by a loooooong way.

  • July 19, 2012, 5 a.m. CST


    by Balkin Flabgurter

    Avengers was better

  • Are going to look pretty damn foolish.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:04 a.m. CST


    by Matty

    You enjoyed A Nightmare On Elm Street, 2010...How the hell is anyone supposed to take you seriously?

  • July 19, 2012, 5:08 a.m. CST


    by Marc Savage

    You guys really are angry, aren't you? lol

  • July 19, 2012, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Batman doesn't retire?

    by James

    Yes he fucking does! In the Miller book he did! What? And then you condescendingly tell people to read up on Batman if they liked this movie? PFFT!

  • July 19, 2012, 5:13 a.m. CST


    by MrDark

    At least Harry's outbursts have some passion and coherence. Still managed to turn it into paragraphs about his accomplishments, though. No one should push any further because who knows who is held liable if he pops a few stomach bands while raging at the users.

  • Glad the Nolan fans can move on to "more important" Nolan movies to blindly defend.

  • Glad the Nolan fans can move on to "more important" Nolan movies to blindly defend.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Which means it's got an 80% chance of being awesome


  • July 19, 2012, 5:28 a.m. CST

    I'm with those who actually *read* Batman ...

    by OhWhatTheFeckEver

    Alfred would never walk away from Bruce/Batman ... Umm, actually he has done it *several* times in the comics, notably in Knightfall which (surprise, surprise) part of this movie is based on. Batman would not hang up the cowl for a woman ... Again, happened several times in the comics. Again, notably, in Knightfall where he was going to quit as Batman for the physical therapist woman, even if his back did heal (obviously, that went tits up). Aaaannnddd I could go on and on. Don't pretend you *know* Batman, Harry, just cos you've read a couple of TP's and one-shots and watched B:TAS. Cos you don't. You really, really don't Hate the movie all you want, but don't even bother saying that people who do like it don't know Batman, because it sounds like you know Batman least of all.

  • "I smiled a lot in that first 40 minutes, but once I let go of seeking to find something to bitch about, and just watched the movie, ring on my finger – and dammit… I had a blast with it." Harry Knowles Green Lantern Review "I honestly feel that this is a very smart film. Smart in so many ways" -Harry Knowles on NIghtmare on Elm Street remake "INDIANA JONES & THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL is our childhood dreams captured at 24 frames a second and projected for us to relive laughing, clapping, gasping and shouting enthusiastically for." - Harry Knowles on Crystal Skull "This is about going into those worlds and just tearing it up… having fun and moving around as fast as you can. Its about fun, and it really is up to the viewer to want to have it… or not. Personally, I had a shitload of fun." - Harry Knowles Van Helsing Review "You know, sometimes there’s such an incredible wave of backlash against a film, that just frankly doesn’t deserve it.' - Harry Knowles on Spiderman 3 "G.I. JOE is not VAN HELSING. It is also not the MUMMY films, nor is it DEEP RISING. In fact, it is very much Sommers’ most fun film and possibly his best work to date." Harry Knowles on G I Joe Fucking hell you were even pretty soft on wolverine... "WOLVERINE isn't an embarrassingly awful film, not for me. It annoys me you could think of something good to say about all the shit listed above but you seem to loathe TDKR with every fiber of your being. I might be wrong but it feels like you haven't been fair with this film. You want a more fantastical interpretation. Fair enough. But maybe you should take your own advice and not look for something to bitch about and enjoy it for what it is.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:31 a.m. CST

    So your problem with the film

    by eric haislar

    Is what YOU think batman is like or what you think batman would do. While I agree in the comics batman would never give up. at least this is uncharted territory with the character. At that is exciting. In real life no one could keep this up for long or forever. Also I stopped reading once you where going to spoil the ending. But dude that's bullshit move and unprofessional.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST

    So this pretty much means


    I'm gonna love it. My anticipation is even higher now. Thanks, HK!

  • He's a museum piece like everything around him.

  • youve just gone full on in your anger to try and fuck it up for people just cos you didnt like it. grow up! you could have waited till the movie is released to do this. you didnt do it with promethues cos you liked that pile of crap so why have you done this now. Im really going to enjoy this movie even more now. ha ha haaaaaaaa.......( I STOPPED READING BEFORE YOU SPOILT THE ENDING)

  • As per the wiki entry... Neutron bombs are purposely designed with explosive yields lower than other nuclear weapons. This is because neutrons are absorbed by air, so a high-yield neutron bomb is not able to radiate neutrons beyond its blast range and so would have no destructive advantage over a normal hydrogen bomb. This intense pulse of high-energy neutrons is intended as the principal killing mechanism, not the fallout, heat or blast. Although neutron bombs are commonly believed to "leave the infrastructure intact", current designs have explosive yields in the kiloton range, the detonation of which would cause considerable destruction through blast and heat effects.

  • I mean seriously, Harry wanted a pumped up on venom 10 feet tall Bane in THIS movie? How does that even make sense? This is the grounded universe version of Batman. I suppose he wanted Manbat and Clayface showing up too, yeah that would fit in really well with the first two films. THIS Batman is not the comic Batman, but that doesn't automatically make it bad. Get real Harry.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:41 a.m. CST

    After this review Fatboy Knowles aint getting any "Pwesents" from warner bros for a loooong time

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

    How the hell can we expect an "unbiased" review from the man who loved the pile of shit collectively known as Green Lantern...hell fatboy was on this site showing off his lantern ring for fucks sake...way to go Harry the only press junket Warner Bros will invite you to for "Man of Steel or any other DC related properties will be at the dollar theater the day black people get there welfare checks

  • Idiot.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:47 a.m. CST


    by Phineas_Flavel

    All of the arguments you made were the rantings of a stunted man-child who probably was mad about the big alien not being in Watchmen. It's a different take on Batman, douche. It was from the very start. I'd love to see your doughy ass try to make anything even remotely as good. Douche.

  • Sine u just had to name drop paul dini as if that justifies you as a batman expert you failed to realize that even in your so called "friend's" show he had batman retire. And gotham was fine for decades without a batman until the need for terry mcguinnes arose for a new batman. And for the guy who says batman doesnt run from the police....o yes he does. Many times in the comics and the animated series even in mask of the phantasm he does because he is out numbered. But like others have said harry liked phantom menance and jar jar. And godzilla 98 so he has no credability. i like that he hated it for it means it really is a good movie given his tract record. And learn how to write a review not a blow by low description of the movie. And u wana call your self a film critic.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:48 a.m. CST

    I now am convinced that this movie is great.

    by Flutchy

    Fuck you haters.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Bat nipples

    by Dan Lacey

    This is not a review, it doesn't matter what you want or don't want out of a film, if you are claiming that you are reviewing a film then do just that. Talk about how it made you feel by all means but Talk about it technically, talk about its actors, direction, music, special effects, don't just bitch about how it isn't the Batman you want to see, even though you liked the first two, you say you want it closer to the comics? The last time the studio did that we ended up with rubber nipples.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:53 a.m. CST


    by Phineas_Flavel

    It really pisses me off that a studio makes a movie for 250 million dollars and we get to watch it for 10 or 20 bucks and feel like we have the right to complain. Would you be mad if someone gave you 1000 BMW's for20 bucks too? We are blessed to live in these times when movies are so good that we are spoiled to the point that if it isn't Citizen Kane, we cry like bitches. Grow a pair, really.

  • I hate this my-opinion-is-fact bullshit. Tell us why - construct an argument.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:54 a.m. CST

    All Of Chris Nolan Batman Films Suck

    by Media Messiah

    Finally people are starting to wise-up, and are realising that the king has no clothes. The Chris Nolan directed and authored Batman films are self-important, and overly self-aware exercises in boring pseudo-intellectualism. Nolan forgot that Batman is a comic book character, and took all of the fun out of the character, in an effort to apologize for the terrible Tim Burton films, and for the even worse Joel Shumacher offenses. To this date, the only really good incarnations of Batman, outside of comics, have been the animated Fox Network shows. If only they had made several of their better scripts into films, as directed by the lead animator, we would have had a truly great live action Batman. It is a real shame!

  • July 19, 2012, 5:57 a.m. CST

    A few questions..

    by paul burnett

    So does Batman/Bruce Wayne die?? Does JGL become Robin then become Batman? If so, when the reboot happens in a few years will JGL be Batman...Will Batman even be Bruce Wayne? Spoil away cos i aint gonna go see it but i am curious as to what WB have allowed Nolan to do with this.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:57 a.m. CST

    and to all those who bad mouth keaton's batman

    by phxmagirises

    Saying batman doesnt kill...batman actually used to carry a gun and shoot people in the original comics until they changed it for they thought it was too dark

  • July 19, 2012, 6:04 a.m. CST


    by genesis495

    What is the name of the comic shop the two guys run in Louisville? I'm from the area and am curious.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:05 a.m. CST

    Harry has perhaps convinced me not to see this

    by Rupee88

    He likes a lot of movies that I can't stand like AMS and Godzilla and AOTC. I am not crazy about the Nolan Batman to begin with so for him not to like this, really gives me pause. I was going to go see it in IMAX for the spectacle but if the story is that bad, then it will prevent from enjoying the film...just like Prometheus. I walked out in the middle of that one. This is a tough call because not sure if I want to spend $25 to see this..with gas, and ticket and popcorn etc.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:07 a.m. CST

    And yeah this makes me really nervous about Superman

    by Rupee88

    I think Snyder would have knocked it out of the park if left on his own but Nolan is going to force him to make dark, brooding, conflicted Superman. Snyder will still save it but he's probably having to fight.

  • Any AICN talkbackers in the Hollwood/Valley/L.A area out there interested in seeing The Dark Knight Trilogy? I will be watching the trilogy today 7/19 at AMC Universal Citiwalk here in Burbank California. Unfortunately my Batman Fanatic friend says he cannot get off of work so I have one ticket available if any of you want to see Nolan’s Batman Begin and End. Email me - the show starts at 6pm and ends at 3am (most likely) and I will be leaving work around 5pm to get the trilogy tickets at the AMC Citiwalk will call. Okay so here we go...The Dark Knight Rises Act 1 Synopsis Spoiler review within asterisk borders, short overall non-spoiler review follows below. ********************************************************************************** Exterior - night - Wayne Manor Eight years have passed since Harvey Dent was received as the White Knight of Gotham. The aftermath of Gordon and Batman's cat and mouse game with The Joker has left Gotham relatively safe since then. The rebuilt Wayne Manor is hosting a memoriam for Harvey Dent. While the politicians and eager deputy commissioners plan their spoils during Gotham's "peace time" (as the Dent Act has pretty much imprisoned most of Gotham's crime lords and henchmen alike) as Commissioner Gordon is about to give his speech on Dent, he begins to yet withholds the truth of that night eight years ago. -Insert awesome action set piece of Bane and The Revolution halfway around the world kidnapping Dr. Leonid Pavel at 40,000 feet from some arrogant CIA guys here.- A silhouetted shadow atop Wayne Manor watches Gotham's elite drink champagne and continue to hold grudge against the vigilante (supposedly) responsible for Dent's death...The Batman. The dark shadow atop Wayne Manor is not Batman however, but Bruce Wayne himself. Or a shadow of himself as he has become a more Howard Hughes type recluse billionaire than the billionaire slash crimefighter we all have gotten to know. Alfred (busy directing catering staff in the kitchen) relays specific instructions to one brunette staff member in particular on how to deliver dinner to Bruce's section of the manor. Enter Selina Kyle. Anne Hathaway does a great job in this movie IMO. From her entrances(and exits) her mix of humor/levity/neutrality are a nice addition to all the doom and gloom throughout the film. She does well physically for the role and yes, her butt looks great in the skin tight black "Catwoman" suit. Hathaway's "Catwoman" (I use parenthesis because she is never referred to as Catwoman) also has some issues. She presents herself as a modern day Robin Hood but is mainly paying the price of being a world class jewel thief who is on every CIA/Interpol list from Gotham to Ra's Al Ghul’s burnt fortress in the mountains. Kyle also is on the side of the have-not‘s, but most importantly she wants to clear her name (by way of a "clean your past life on the grid" tech) and has made a deal with some shadow businessmen that are in possession of said "clean slate" tech. This speaks to Selina maybe wanting a different life than the one she has led so far. The businessmen she is dealing with are also rivals to Wayne Enterprises. We find out later these same men have ties to Bane. These business rivals are also trying to put the coffin in Bruce/Lucious quickly falling Wayne Enterprises after their failed attempt in funding, developing and trying to distribute free energy cold fusion reactor(s).Suffice to say Wayne Enterprises is in the red. I'm guessing this all took place during the last eight years while Bruce has been in Howard Hughes mode. Meanwhile Alfred is pleading Bruce to clip his fingernails, get out of his room… I mean…section of Wayne manor, live a little and maybe attempt to save Wayne Enterprises from corporate takeover. Bruce's version of "living a little" of course only points in one direction...the Batman. Bruce decides to start by doing do some detective work on Ms. Kyle after her "visit" with him at the Dent Memoriam. She steals his mother's pearls from Bruce's safe that his father gifted her in Batman Begins. Bruce knows her real focus was to steal his fingerprints, so he starts digging as to why. Kyl...oh screw it, Catwoman is ready to make the deal for the clean slate tech in exchange for Wayne's fingerprints with the shadow businessmen. Of course nothing is what it seems and she quickly realizes the part she played in the grand scheme of things. But the ever resourceful Catwoman also has an ace up her sleeve and this deal gone bad brings Gordon/Deputy Commissioner Foley (Matthew Modine) and beat cop John Blake (an earnest Joseph Gordon-Levitt) into the storm that is coming. Gordon goes in first and as usual he (like Wayne) only feels alive when he is doing his duty as one of Gotham’s protector’s. His verve for police work leads him to Bane, but that same verve nearly gets him killed. The opportunistic Foley probably would not mind if Gordon died (promotion anybody?) but the intelligent and cunning Blake figures things out and rescues Gordon from near death. John Blake is recruited by Gordon to assist with this new case and is promoted to detective. Blake wastes no time as the field arm of the recovering Gordon, giving his natural detective work skills some swift exercise. He visits Bruce and even though Blake and Wayne come from completely different backgrounds, together they find out they have more in common than just an idealistic view on protecting Gotham City. Bruce is now getting back into Batman mode. There is a funny bit with a visit to his doctor as the doc lists in detail how Wayne’s body has broken down over the years. Bruce of course uses this doctor’s visit as a guise to sneak in to the still recovering Commissioner Gordon's hospital room (in Batman Begins first gen style no less) to see if he is okay and get info on who this Bane mercenary is and what he has planned. Bruce then visits Lucious Fox to get up to speed with why and how the cold fusion free energy project has put Wayne Enterprises in the red (also as to why Wayne Foundation has stopped supporting orphanages and other philanthropic causes). Lucious then shares with Bruce the only philanthropist who still believes in the free energy project that has the means and the money to back it. This is Miranda Tate played by Marion Cotilliard. Fox then introduces some new tech for the newly invigorated (albeit broken down) Batman. The new tech isn’t just the Harrier like craft we’ve seen in the trailers, there is some “Batman Beyond” like tech to assist Bruce/Batman on their reunion tour. So with Lucious back on board Bruce/Batman is informed and armed. Time to bring back The Batman…not so fast. Upon meeting with Alfred, he reminds Bruce that Bane is a force that he has not dealt with before. Bruce doesn’t want to hear his best friend, confidant and father figure telling him that Batman “has limits”. Bruce has heard that before and will hear none of it now. Well neither will Alfred. So the stage is set as Bruce Wayne tries to bring back The Dark Knight. But with his allies being very few and with Gotham’s cadre of players being either very green, very broken, very neutral or very menacing The Dark Knight faces his most powerful challenge yet,but does so pretty much alone. ************************************************************************************* -Overall Review- In The Dark Knight Rises Bale does his best work so far as Bruce Wayne/Batman and his fellow cast members (mainly Michael Caine’s Alfred) all rise to meet Bale on this part of Bruce’s journey. Tom Hardy is physically menacing and does as good as he can while having half his face covered. In my opinion his menace comes through the mask with ease. Hathaway’s Selina Kyle/Catwoman is a key cog to the plot of the TDKR. She also has some great scenes throughout the film. I especially like when Catwoman and Batman are debating tactics between the their respective alter ego‘s. Marion Cotilliard’s Miranda Tate was probably the weakest of the cast. But she serves her purpose for the story. Oldman and Freeman are solid as always and Joseph Gordon Levitt as John Blake may (or may not be) the favorite new addition for audiences of Nolan’s final Batman film. At least the 13 year old(ish) kid sitting next to me at the screener thought so. The kid nearly landed in my lap at one point when Blake was doing his thing within the The Dark Knight Rises. There are some characters that mirror each other and do not quite know how to follow through with their motives amongst the chaos that hits Gotham. Everybody is truly shocked and awed from the storm that Bane brings. I liked that. The reflections of Bruce’s journey since Batman Begins is handled sometimes in the script and other times only visually by Nolan and are nice touches. The script also has some fun bits in it that hint at Batman lore (the little that I know). Overall Nolan and Co. put their money on the screen. Every penny. From every Wally Phister shot, every awesome second unit non CGI action set piece and Zimmers’s score come together in epic proportion. I still like Batman Begins as my favorite of the trilogy. But The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises are very solid second and third acts of Nolan’s version of Batman. The Dark Knight probably more so as Ledgers’s Joker is hard to top. But with most sequels usually falling short in general, these did not and I think over time will be regarded as one of the best film trilogies we’ve seen. I know there will be some dislike (or maybe alot of dislike) for the final chapter in Nolan’s Batman trilogy. Yes there are some editing guffaws and some missed story opportunities. Plus some stuff about the new characters in Nolan's TDKR that die hard Batman fans may not like. Me being someone who does not know the Batman comic universe verbatim so I may not truly know The Batman like a die hard fan would. I only have the Burton films, Batman The Animated Series and Nolan’s films to go off of. I believe The Dark Knight Rises is a really good way to bring this particular story of Bruce Wayne full circle. A satisfying and enjoyable ride. Now off to find some TDKR IMAX tickets… Thanks for your time, Kenchun24

  • July 19, 2012, 6:15 a.m. CST

    Ah so Harry doesn't like it...which means I'll fucking love it!

    by wcolbert

    Just saying. Harry, you seem fap it like a school boy to just about every film that people by and large can't stand.

  • I call BULLSHIT!

  • July 19, 2012, 6:26 a.m. CST

    Raging AICN-talkbackers = good movie

    by Christian

    This review and the hateful AICN-crowd has made me more interested in this movie than ever before. I, for one, can't stand otp cartoon superheros. I love what Nolan did to the batman-mythos i.e. strip away all the bullshit, magic, fantasy element of the cartoon and focus on what makes batman - sort of - unique in the DC/Marvel universe. Meaning he has no superpowers and he lives in a world that feels like our own. It seems to me that most of you haters don't like Nolans batman for the exact same reasons. You want mutants, crazy magic and goofy, silly supervillans. You want Bane to be this luchador mask-wearing, 7 foot tall, lumbering mutant with 200 muscles that don't exist on a normal person. You don't want a normal person. You want batman to be wearing spandex and cloth that serves no apparent purpose. Also, I dont want ongoing series, I want my stories to end. If you have a trilogy (or just a single movie) you can construct you story properly and have a definitive beginning, middle and end. If your story just lumber along the storytelling starts to get shoddy and repetetive. I mean how many times have superheroes died, just to reappear again a few issues later? I for one will go and see the movie friday and probably will enjoy it more than most of you seem to do.

  • How do I now? Because I already know what sort of template Nolan has built and is using. I know because I don't demand that a live action batman is "just like the comics". It can't possibly be, by simple virtue of it being a different medium. And most of all...I just love Batman that fucking much that, unless it's on the level of BATMAN AND ROBIN, I'll still appreciate the fact that we even HAVE a Batman movie that is of a serious tone. The Nolan films, for me, were never going to top The Animated Series. They can't even compete with Arkham Asylum/City. But like them or not, they ARE far and away the best Batman films ever made, and we may as well make our peace with that until some retard reboots it yet again. That's right - I said it. NOT the Burton Batman, which I'm surprised he didnt cast Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter in, that unoriginal fuck. Keaten comes off as an angry little Jewish banker - he does not convince as Batmana or Bruce Wayne (though considerably more so as Wayne than as a 5'9" bug eyed Batman). Don't get me wrong - with the exception of the unholy pieces of shit we got in the 90's, I appreciated all of the Batman movies in different ways. I just wish someone would take what they did with Arkham Asylum and create a new Animated series in that darker and more adult tone (but only if you can convince Mark Hamill to come back as the Joker). I don't expect the film to be a masterpiece - but unless Nolan has completely changed fro the ground up the way he makes movies...I rather doubt I'll hate it.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:27 a.m. CST

    gfdi..*how do I KNOW* ...edit button ya bastards

    by wcolbert

  • If I recall his "Avengers" review (which I conveniently can't find in the archives), he was already bitching about how Warner Brothers needed to reboot the Batman series to be closer in tone to what the Marvel movies are. He was already slamming "TDKR" as being too grim, one-note and unfaithful to the source material (which is especially ludicrous, given that there have been countless interpretations of Batman in multiple forms of media over the character's 73 years of existence). Sorry, Harry, but your previous negative comments regarding this film totally fly in the face of the idea that you were coming into it with anything resembling enthusiasm. You were pre-determined to hate it, and it lived up to your expectations. Now, the movie may be one sloppy, shiny piece of shit (I haven't seen it yet), but stop pretending that this review is an unbiased critique.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:29 a.m. CST

    You people are F*ed up

    by MrD

    Harry has weird tastes. He likes some stuff everyone bashes, and bashes stuff everyone likes. I'm sure you all have those inconsistencies too, but no one calls you out on it because no one gives a damn about your opinion. The closest you can come to notoriety is questioning the integrity of the guy who built this site. And I'm willing to bet most of you criticizing him and accusing him of being on the dole haven't even seen the film.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Cathoris - Well said, sir.

    by wcolbert

    And I think that's the crux of it. These people are angry because a live action medium doesn't carry with it all of the more absurd aspects of the comics. They never could get around the fact that this is NOT the animated series Batman or the comic Batman - it exists in the only way a Batman could realistically exist, and that's sans all of the magic and hooha that simply would not translate well into a movie of this tone. I mean, christ, imagine if they got the Bane they wanted. Would that guy really fit into the Nolan universe? It'd be severely out of place to have an inhuman, gargantuan monster hurling boulders at Batman. I admit I was disappointed at first that they'd changed him, until i realized how not with the tone that would be. This film will be just fine - people here just adore hearing themselves rant so much and love nothing more than that...except for tearing down sequels to successful movies that they couldnt stop fapping to earlier. It's the "thing" to do - attack the final installment in a series as an utter failure, regardless of if it deserves it or not - if this weren't the FINAL installment, they wouldnt bitch so much - they 'd say "oh, well, I hope the NEXT one gets this or that in there".

  • July 19, 2012, 6:38 a.m. CST

    phxmagirises - batman killing

    by MrD

    How many issues did he carry a gun? How long did he kill? As a character Batman did neither for generations. Literally three generations of fans have grown up and birthed batfans since the days he carried a gun or killed anyone. I dare say there are almost more issues in which he explicitly states his anti-gun policy than there are those in which he used a gun.

  • Waahhh! The new Batman movie didn't close out the series in the way *I* hoped it would! Wahhhh! Why didn't Nolan know that *I* exist and conform his vision to what *I* want?!? Doesn't he know that *MY* opinions are more important than everyone else's?!?

  • July 19, 2012, 6:42 a.m. CST

    No way on Earth am I reading this "review".

    by Knuckleduster

    Reason number one: I don't want to spoil the film for myself. Reason number two: It's Harry "Dream Bigger" Knowles.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:42 a.m. CST


    by Castor Grayson

    Youre wrong on this one Harry. We knew from the start that Nolan's films weren't the "Batman" comic on the screen. That would be a film like Avengers. Which is cool. These films, however, are an artist's take on Batman. Much like Dark Knight Returns is. Or Speeding Bullets, or The Long Halloween. Also, the things you're describing characters would *never* do, I remember instances of everyone of them from the cannon comics. So you're wrong on this one. Everyone always says "I would love to see (insert name here) version on (insert character here). We got it. You may not like it but to blame it because it's not "like the comics" is for people uneducated in film. You are not one of those people and should know better.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Do yourselves a favor - shut it.

    by wcolbert

    You are PRIVILEGED enough to live in a world and a country where you can sit down with an oversized bucket of popcorn and a soda as big as your head, scratch your fat ass, and watch a $250 million dollar film based on your favorite comic book hero. And you bitch endlessly because it's not exactly the one YOU would have made. Well, either get the funding to make one yourself and "show us how it's done" or shut that great gaping hole in your fat American face (and yes, I live here too - I still say Americans are fat and far too loud for people so stupid).

  • July 19, 2012, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry - Remember when Batman was an actual vampire?

    by Mikey Mike

    With fangs and everything? Comics, man. Comics. As far as this series goes; in Batman Begins, Bruce is already talking to Rachel about retiring at the end of that film. In the Dark Knight, the whole idea was that Harvey Dent would bring out the good in people so that Gotham wouldn't need the Batman. That's why they covered his death up (and it seems to have worked for 8 years). In this Elseworlds tale, Bruce's aim was always: swoop in, create a legend, inspire Gotham to save itself and then make it with Miss Dawes. 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Can't believe Nolan didn't stay faithful to your vision. Poor form.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Lethargijc nailed it

    by I am_NOTREAL

    This so-called review is Harry's opinion and never pretends to be anything but. However, to damn a film for (primarily) failing to deliver on your preconceived notions of a character, based on external sources, is completely ridiculous.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:50 a.m. CST


    by Jaymie69

    ok so you didnt like the film,get over it and go watch that pile of shit that is scott pilgrim

  • The movie will still make excellent bank in the worldwide and blu-ray/dvd markets - he told his version of the story of Batman - he's happy with it - it will succeed - so whatever some angry talkbackers have to say about it, it won't change a damned thing. Or didnt you know by now? Your opinions? They have virtually no value in the real world. People will speak with their wallets.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Re: Harry's DARK KNIGHT RISES Review ...

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Okay, no gentle mockery this time out, I'm just gonna call complete bullshit on this one. All built-in haters aside, so far, not one of the gajillion reviews posted anywhere else have been less than stellar in their praise of this film. The worst thing anyone's had to say about it so far is that it isn't quite as good as THE DARK KNIGHT because Ledger wasn't in it, and even that's like one in ten reviews, and even those reviews still all end up stating that this is a great film. Do a quick search online and see for yourselves. Clearly, there's an outside thing going on in Harry's review, whether this is meant to be a demonstration that Harry doesn't just out-and-out love everything that he reviews or that AICN wasn't invited to the set or that Marvel has him in their back pocket, I have no idea. And while I haven't seen the movie yet, obviously, I just can't fathom that the advance word would be so high for this film and that Harry would treat it like everyone else would treat THE PHANTOM MENACE. Whatever the actual reason for your ire, Harry, I hope it was worth another black mark on your already strained credibility.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Some of you guys are fucking scary

    by Larry_Sanders

  • July 19, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST

    I can't wait... it's going to be great!

    by SunTzu77

    If Harry was disappointed... I'll probably love it! YES!

  • I, for instance, disliked Inception the first time I saw it, but I seriously grew to love it on subsequent viewingsj. Harry's dislike for this film seems to be because it was inconsistent with his own expectations and his own interpretations of who and what the characters are......which doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. Besides which, Harry raved about how much he loved the last Indiana Jones movie (I thought it was shit), so his negative review doesn't worry me. I'll go into this film tomorrow with an open mind, but with slightly lowered expectations. I appreciate Harry's honesty (it shows he has integrity....I hope). But I afraid that this film will forever now have a bad rap on this site for years to come, even if it turns out that I really like it. At the very least, I can see fanboys arguing about this film on this site for the next several years! TDKR will have a polarizing effect, for sure!

  • July 19, 2012, 6:54 a.m. CST

    It's not how I would have done it.

    by Castor Grayson

    Is not exactly the first lesson in film criticism.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST

    I have seen it and it is awesome

    by JorEl214

    I have not heavily read comics for quite some time and when I did it was mostly JLA and Superman, with a little Batman thrown in. That being said I love Batman as a character and I think I essentially understand him. I LOVED this movie. It was epic, it had in my opinion a perfect ending, the new characters were introduced and integrated in such an efficient manner. It took everything about TDK and amped up the stakes.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Harry, I think the LARGEST problem people have with your opinion is...

    by James Robinson

    ... you're an unrepentant hypocrite. You lauded Abrams for his Trek, praising his massive changes & tweaks to not just the 'Trek' universe/cannon, but the core of the characters personalities as well. You 'poo-pooed' the numerous and massive plot failings in favor of full support of an entertaining and well presented entertainment opportunity. So why then are you crucifying Nolan for doing virtually the exact same thing, on the basis of a multitude if misconceptions and outright fallacies largely based on factual errors on your part. Essentially, you lambast the film on the basis of arrogance and ego, confident in your ignorance that you know wtf you happen to currently be venting your spleen about. Truth be told, your postings prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, you really DON'T know wtf you're talking about. I guess we should be grateful though, as you didn't go into some fantasy based anecdote involving your childhood at any point in your review. Thanks for that at least.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Awwwwwww, Harry...

    by Greg

    Looks like somebody took a shit in your Bat cave and shut the windows.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Ok, have you guys even been paying ATTENTION?

    by wcolbert

    Harry writes one review (if you can call that writing) that doesn't favor it based on his personal idea of what Batman should be (biased from the getgo much?) and you start crying wolf. Did you kind of forget that the other reviews thus far have been almost unanimously POSITIVE and actually raved about the film being the best in the series? Oh? You thought only AICN opinions held any water? Let me remind you that Harry seems to love every movie most people hate, and hate movies people love. So using him as a compass of quality is a bit like using a blind dog as a seeing-eye dog.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Replace the bat suit with a ski mask

    by wadi77

    And these films would still work.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:57 a.m. CST

    I get where Harry is coming from, but...

    by Michael Morning castorgrayson just said, Nolan/Bale's Batman is NOT the Batman of the comics. In my opinion, their Batman is the younger one from BATMAN BEYOND....he's got the physical aspect and he's no dummy, but he's not the brilliant mind that started and runs the whole operation. </p><p> And his mentality is not the same. As Harry noted, Nolan's Batman is more like Bruce Willis in the DIE HARD movies. He's only doing what he's doing because he's "that guy"...a victim of circumstances and his own conscience. Basically, he's there and he's able to do what no one else can do, so he does it because it's the right thing to do, not because he's driven to do it by a dark past.</p><p> I'm hoping the JLA movie brings out the real Batman...the guy who's as good with his mind as he is with his body. In the cartoons and the comics, Batman is imposing because of his intellect much more so than his physicality. Characters like Superman and Wonder Woman and Green Lantern are standoffish from him precisely because of his cold, stark detachment. His physicality is nothing compared to their powers, but they know his mind is constantly at work behind that mask and he'd put the hurt to them the minute they stepped outside the lines. They work with him and stand shoulder-to-shoulder with him, however, because he's absolutely selfless, driven, incorruptible and gets the job done come hell or high water, super powers or not. Give it to Bruce and it's done.</p><p> I want to see that guy, but I'm not going to piss on what Nolan has created just because it's not THAT interpretation of the character. I think Nolan's Batman trilogy together with THE AVENGERS is going to set us up for a future of superhero films that could potentially exceed all fan expectations. If MAN OF STEEL can seal the deal, we're all in for a treat in the coming years.

  • July 19, 2012, 7 a.m. CST

    Nolanites going crazy hahaha

    by Volllllume3

  • And fanboys exaggerate way too much when they dislike a certain movie. I'm sure this film is NOT the Die Another Day of the Batman franchise!

  • July 19, 2012, 7:03 a.m. CST


    by Jaymie69


  • July 19, 2012, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Thank god Harry dislikes it, that means it's a really good movie

    by SithMenace

  • July 19, 2012, 7:04 a.m. CST


    by SunTzu77

    I liked the 2nd installment of Nolan's Batman trilogy... but I always felt Rachel's death happened too quick... it felt awkward... pacing wise.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Are you fuking kidding me?

    by adroxx

    I have been coming here for years. I have enjoyed a large amount of your reviews. Even the ones I didn't completely agree with. Opinions are opinions right? But to slam this movie the way you have, making comparisons that make no sense, is just weak dude! ... One of your complaints is that the city did not crumble like the poster? seriously - wtf!?

  • July 19, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST

    My prediction for 'Man of Steel'...

    by James Robinson

    Audience reaction will be largely 'meh', and the cycle will grind on. Why? Because, while the new film will undoubtedly look fantastic, be competently acted, and the story well told.... 'Superman' is a story of and foremost, an ideal for the inspiration of Hope. Being 'dark' or 'gritty', with a brooding and uncertain main character may seem like a good idea at the gist, will end up leaving an odd aftertaste with audiences. It's like a meal with too much salt and not enough pepper. Deep inside you KNOW it could have been a fantastic meal, but ended up leaving you feeling disappointed and unsatisfied.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Harry, your full of shit!!

    by Andy

    Saw this last night, loved it!! It seems your throwing your toys out your pram because Nolan didnt stick to the script or ideas floating around inside your head!! Holy sad geek!!!!!!!!

  • July 19, 2012, 7:13 a.m. CST


    by James


  • July 19, 2012, 7:15 a.m. CST

    it reminds of....

    by adroxx

    When little kids don't get EXACTLY what they want. So they do everything in their power to ruin everybody else's good mood.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Harry, you stink!

    by James

    You stink, Harry!

  • However, as I rapidly moved past the article I caught this tidbit - "We need someone who's not afraid of any aspect of the Bat universe, who knows that Manbat and Clayface could be awesome." YEEEEEEEEEEEEESH. And I'm sorry, but didn't Harry give a good review to "Battleship?" I am now convinced DKR will be the greatest movie ever made.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Terrible review but agreed

    by AzarN

    Harry, seriously: Stop making sentimental references to your own life and experiences and simply gauge and judge cinema based on the individual merits of the film. I didn't like 'Rises' either. But this is because it was bloated, poorly structured and burdened with a horrendously expositional script. However, I'm a huge fan of Batman and had no problems with what Nolan did with the characters here. This is his interpretation of some concepts that have been dealt with and re-interpreted thousands of times. He is showcasing complex characters and themes that share basic central similarities to a comic book -- but this is a story that he wants to tell about his own interpretation of these elements. Rate the film based on THE FILM and what THE FILM does with it's own subject matter.

  • Kudos Mr. Nolan! Kudos!

  • July 19, 2012, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Wow... This review is embarrassing, Harry.

    by seanpb

    Utterly embarrassing. Utterly and entirely embarrassing. I’ll try to address these issues in order. Did you not pay attention to the end of The Dark Knight? Or the torment that decision caused Gordon and Wayne? He became a villain, a vigilante, to be hunted and hanged so to inspire the people and police of Gotham to wipe out crime. It succeeded. That was the purpose and it did so. The Dent act has systematically and conclusively wiped out crime in Gotham. His sacrifice and all he suffered through (yes, Rachel’s death took a toll) was to ensure Gotham was cleaned up. He was made a public enemy; his presence on the street is what caused the escalation, if you do remember. Him being Batman brought the Joker to town, which set off a chain of events that left both Rachel and Harvey Dent, the legitimate knight of Gotham, dead. Staggering that you don’t get this. Did you miss the scene in the hospital that explained the physical trauma Bruce had suffered from being Batman? No knee cartilage etc. Did you miss when he strapped that brace to his knee to stabilize himself? He is not ‘seemingly still fit’. He is battered both mentally and physically. He is, physically, a shell of the man he was when we last saw him, beaten down and in no state to be Batman. Alfred leaving showed how strongly he felt. He was torn by the duty he had to Thomas and Martha and the very real danger he’d encouraged and facilitated. With Batman off the street and in exile he thought Bruce could move on with his life, but naturally he still yearned for Rachel. He was trying to set him up with Miranda Tate, if you recall. He wants Bruce, the man he so loves, the man who is family, to be happy. He warns him when we see footage of Bane, he is concerned for his wellbeing and issues him an ultimatum that he’ll leave if he continues. He “cant bury another member of the Wayne family”… and why should he have to? Why should he want to? Why should he encourage action he feels will result in that? Bane is brilliant. He’s not as showy as the Joker, but my god is he menacing. He is a serious and very real threat to everyone he encounters. Calculated, clinical and efficient. Bane’s fight with Batman in the sewer is one of the most haunting and heart wrenching scenes this genre has ever seen. When he’s just brutalizing him, just beating him so easily and so senseless, taunting him (“ah, I wondered what would break first… the spirit or the body”) leaving him defeated and broken. In Rocky it was like they were hitting one another with chains, it was ridiculous. This is also a boxing film in which the protagonist, champion and hero of the series, a supposed legend of the sport, NEVER EVER puts his hands up… you want to talk realism in fights I’d steer well clear of Rocky. Bane being set up as Ra’s son is fine. I liked it. It’s hardly insulting. Even removed from the fact he’s revealed to NOT be his son, so it’s a non-issue. It’s a device used to conceal the identity of his child, which is naturally revealed later. The breaking the backstory was done well. The idea that Bruce had to create a fear of failure and, more importantly, death comes full circle and brings his character and motivations into sharp focus. For so long his motivations had been to placate his grief, to clean up the city and create an environment where his pain will never be felt. But to be Batman he has to embrace that pain; use it as a spur. The “boring as fuck middle of this travesty”… you mean the wrought, sensational 2nd act that set the scene and stakes? Bane completely tears the city apart. I have literally no idea what you mean by Bane not doing much damage to the city. He entraps the entire police force underground and creates a criminal based and lead system of Marshall law, encouraging the people of Gotham to take what they want, do what they want and persecute and prosecute until they get both. It’s a slow burn, is this plan. Its designed to punish the good people of Gotham as slowly and painfully as possible; to make those that are watching around the world feel every passing day of the agony with those stuck there to die. It’s a statement. It’s a confident and absolute statement that they wont and cant be stopped. The endgame is death and destruction; it’s a certainty. It’s just a matter of when and what comes before is simply ceremony, allowing those who have been imprisoned the chance to take back whatever it is they think they’re owed. Bane isn’t trying to lead them, necessarily. He’s not trying to impress or appease them by seizing control and running the show himself. He makes it plaintively clear they’ll die and it’ll be by his hand. The cops send the thousands of police in the sewer to rat them out and bring Bane to justice as quickly as possible. Its strength in numbers. If they storm the sewer system they’ll knock his tin pot enterprise over, wont they. But, Bane is one step ahead of them. By the way, the police trapped were being fed and given water… so they were being kept alive. The blast radius clears the city, that’s explained. Have you ever been knifed in the ribs? I can imagine it being fairly incapacitating. Hate to break this to you, but Talia, Bane, all the thugs… THEY WERE ALL IN GOTHAM TO DIE. This was their last and only stand. They were there to complete the work of Ra’s, blow the place up and make their mark. Did you not see when Talia went to trigger the bomb as Bane restrained Batman? She is ready and willing to die for the cause of her father, to rebuke Batman and gain a measure of revenge on Bruce. I’m sorry if the League of Shadows systematically infiltrating Wayne Enterprises over many years, linking with Daggart to get the construction contracts in exchange for power on the board, having them use Catwoman to get the prints, setting up the stock exchange meltdown purely to bankrupt Bruce so to force a change of hands on the board and gain access to the reactor, which was created through them funding the research into fusion. In essence having Wayne build them a bomb and then, as if to thumb their nose at that decadence and achievement, use it to destroy the city and torture Bruce for what he did to their former leader isn’t clever or in depth enough for you. They should apologise for not putting enough thought into it. The reason they explore the same themes is so to establish and evoke the symbolism of the character. It’s called an arc, coming full circle. Its only natural certain bits and pieces would be repeated; they are, after all, elemental. Batman did not quit. He sacrificed himself for the good of his city, an act which eliminated crime and made him unnecessary. That’s what he wanted, ultimately, to not be a necessary part of the machine. Dent was the inspiration, the good guy, the white knight that inspired and compelled change. Batman was the man who facilitated that. He didn’t quit. He made the greatest sacrifice one could: to be the villain. The film is magnificent and far from a waste of that money. It is filmmaking on a scale the likes of which the medium rarely sees. It is compelling, overwhelming and relentless. It is A VERSION of Batman, not THE VERSION. No version of Batman is definitive; every incarnation is a little or a lot different from the one that preceded it. That’s the beauty of interpretation; an artist comes along and brings something new, different to the character. You, Harry, are a schmuck. You didn’t get it therefore you didn’t like it.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:36 a.m. CST


    by borisdoris

    It smelled of giraffe piss and tasted of honkey tonk men. Yaw haaaa!

  • July 19, 2012, 7:40 a.m. CST

    The end result is what counts

    by MattDomville

    And I agree that the final product was lacking. My complete thoughts:

  • I'll bet you've not even seen the movie yet and you're acting like Nolan slapped you across the mouth with his dick. People like you just get off on raging over particular directors. We get get it, you don't like Nolan. So don't watch his movies. That'll solve your problem. But if you think you will convince any of us not to watch the movie or enjoy it based on what you are sadly mistaken and think far too highly of your own worth. Nobody cares what you think. And by the way...Scott Pilgrim wasn't exactly Oscar quality material. Pretty aweful, actually, considering what Wright is capable of. So you might want to consider a screen name change before you come in here shitting on Nolan's films.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST

    If TDKR doesn't have...

    by SunTzu77

    Neon colors.... nipple suits.... penguins with missiles on their backs... Michael Cera... it will be freaking fabulous!

  • July 19, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST

    I don't even get to see this til next Wednesday

    by James

    Harry's lousy review is the icing on the cake, now I KNOW I'm gonna love it!

  • July 19, 2012, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Inconsistencies & arrogance

    by Matt

    So, let me get a few things straight: 1. Harry knows Paul Dini. Just so everyone knows, he had to name-drop him. That makes his opinion more valid than anyone else's. 2. If you like TDKR, you don't know anything about the character. I've have every Batman comic (digital, obviously), seen every episode of the original animated series, but if I like TDKR, I'm wrong. 3. Ra's training Bane = UNACCEPTABLE! Ra's training Batman = A-OK! 4. How dare they deviate from the comics! Bane is not South American! HERESY! Oh, by the way, Rachel Dawes was never in the comics, the Joker didn't have a bunch of scars on his face (originally), Harvey Dent was not burned in a building explosion, nor did he die from a fall, etc. This review is nothing more than Harry trying to get more pageviews by capitalizing on the people frothing at the mouth over every negative review. I have read often that the movie is over-long and slows down, but criticizing a film for not sticking to the comics while simultaneously praising others for deviating (X-Men: First Class, anyone?) is hypocrisy and, as Harry says so often in this review, I CALL BULLSHIT!

  • July 19, 2012, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Good lord Harry...

    by BillBradsky

    This review reminds me of his infamous "review" of The Matrix Reloaded, when he went on and on about how upset he was there were no werewolves or vampires in it. His complaint then is basically his same complaint now about doesn't conform to the vision he had for the movie when he went into the theater. Period. So the movie plays a little fast and loose with canon comic book characters in the Batman universe. Ok. Big deal. Comic book Batman would never hang up the cowl? Well, the Bruce Wayne from the first two movies in this trilogy would, and did. Get over it. I guess your fellow theater attendees should just feel lucky that you didn't take your nephew and let him poop his pants rather than leave the movie for a few minutes. What movie was that...The Phantom Menace? haha

  • ......Nolan must be shitting himself now.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:51 a.m. CST

    And actually...Batman DOES retire. Ever heard of Batman Begins?

    by wcolbert

    There were comics for that, too. Granted, that's more due to old age - but he actually retired because he had to resort to picking up a gun, if I recall. Now THAT's a movie I'd love to see made - Batman Begins would have a lot of potential (though I'm not sure how they'd get that suit to look good without a cape or anything).

  • July 19, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Yet spiderman and avengers u like!!!

    by dx27hbk

    Harry I've been a loyal reader for years to your site. I won passes fit the screening from your site for yesterday's screening. I love the site but lately I've taken your reviews with a grain of salt!! Spiderman I went to see as avengers based on your after reading this review and the seeing the movie last night I wonder if your a marvel employee. U and quint are marvel geeks who could care less for DC, stop calling BS on our DC movies and be grateful we actually have DC movies to watch!! The movie was awesome and I loved every sec!!!!!

  • July 19, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST

    GAH why did I type Begins - I meant BATMAN BEYOND lol

    by wcolbert

    I just woke up not long ago

  • July 19, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST


    by Jason

    I usually don't care about reviews but I took the spoiler plunge this time. If this is the way this movie pans out then I'm kinda with Harry. Sounds like bullshit to me. Bring on the reboot. Somebody make a Batman movie where Batman is badass, almost untouchable. Not some dude in a suit fighting like a drunk in a bar. I thought he was ninja trained in the first one why is he always throwing haymakers..???

  • July 19, 2012, 7:54 a.m. CST

    time for some coffee >.> haha man I'm derping today

    by wcolbert

  • July 19, 2012, 7:54 a.m. CST

    I regretfully have to agree with Harry

    by Ace Calban

    I saw TDKR at the premier last night and I left with almost exactly the same nagging doubts. While it is a great looking piece of cinema, especially in IMAX, it fails as a Batman film. This is Nolan's Batman not the the character I've read and loved for 20 or so years. This Batman is simply not heroic, all the failings Harry points out are true, Bruce Wayne would not become a recluse for over 8 years over a death it would empower him more. Also he never really rises, perhaps physically but not as a character, not as he should. Perhaps I wanted to see a Denny O'Neil/Neal Adams or a Scott Snyder take on Batman and this wasn't it. A shame because the performances and the set pieces are excellent but it just doesn't hold as story.

  • But I'm willing to bet there's a note in there somewhere that reads "Based on Batman characters created by Bob Kane" or words to that effect. BASED on. Based, from the noun base, meaning "the fundamental principle or groundwork." The fundamental principle of the Batman character, unless I've completely missed on every iteration of the character that I've seen previously, is that his parents were murdered and he takes his revenge on crime by dressing up like a bat. Pretty much what he does in these movies. I'm also willing to bet that the credits contain nothing that reads anything like "We, the producers of this film, swear on a 500-issue stack of Detective Comics that the Batman character herein depicted will never behave in any manner that can be construed as remotely inconsistent with his comic book origins by a fanboy." I've got my issues with Nolan's two previous movies in the series, particularly TDK, which someone above quite aptly described as "bloated and choppy," at least in parts. It's improved each time I've seen it, although I still feel like the last 45 minutes try to cram in an entirely new story, and in general both films are overplotted. But I admire them for their ambition, scope, intelligence, and for their willingness to alter an iconic character while still embracing it. TDKR sounds like it continues in that vein and nothing in this review discourages me from seeing it.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Reboot it fast and cast Bryan Cranston as Gordon.

    by Mosquito March

  • July 19, 2012, 7:58 a.m. CST

    A dark Superman film...

    by SunTzu77

    If it's truly dark and gritty... it will be as memorable as the "The Amazing Spider-man."

  • July 19, 2012, 7:58 a.m. CST

    At times like this

    by peter skellen

    I have to remind myself that Harry gave Ghost Rider 2, Die Another Day and Spider-Man 3 positive reviews.

  • But then, they're not basing their reviews on fanboy biased conceptions of what Batman should be like Harry is.

  • July 19, 2012, 8 a.m. CST

    Ace Calban

    by seanpb

    He became a recluse to ensure criminality in Gotham could be contained. It was achieved and wiped out. If there is no criminal element there is no need for Batman. His sacrifice was hanging it up for the betterment of Gotham. The cost was the woman he loved; something he still, justifiably, mourns. Its not titled Bruce Wayne Rises, is it. its the Dark Knight Rises. Anyone can be Batman, its a symbol. thats the key. The Dark Knight does rise in the end, doesn't he. From villainy, from defeat and further into lore.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Batman wouldn't have let Rachel's death be in vain

    by Steve Lamarre

    Nolan has committed the ultimate comic book character portrayal sin: Emo Batman!

  • July 19, 2012, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Not being Batman because of a girl? Are you fucking kidding me?

    by Jason Bartlett

  • July 19, 2012, 8:05 a.m. CST

    mosquito march

    by Steve Lamarre

    No one alive today would make a better Gordon than Bryan Cranston. Well said.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Ace Calban

    by seanpb

    The film isn't titled Bruce Wayne Rises. its about the Dark Knight rising. From villainy, defeat and further into lore. Batman, as explained, is a symbol. He's not a man. A man can be corrupted and whatnot. And the way the film ends should impress what is meant by the title. And he became a recluse so to ensure the security of Gotham. Criminality had been wiped out, Batman had become unnecessary because his sacrifice and Dent's death had turned the city around. That is his sacrifice. It cost him the woman he loved for most of his life, so he's justifiably still a bit hung up.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:06 a.m. CST

    seanpb is spot on

    by eldeejo

    I just watched it, its a great movie, Harry sounds like he is whining like a lil girl in this review.

  • Remember when he fell asleep during Inception?

  • That, and you know, everyone is different. I never understood why people put so much faith in the opinions (key word being OPINIONS) of internet critics. See it and decide for yourself. Stop being a sheep and make your own conclusions based on what YOU observe. What Harry, any other reviewer, or any of us on this talkback thinks is not relevant to you, or shouldn't be. What SHOULD be is whether YOU enjoyed it. If you don't, fine, I have no problem with that. You have every right to hate it if you actually WATCHED the thing and aren't just ranting with no basis other than Harry's muddled review.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    disappointed with this review, to be honest

    by chronicallydepressedlemming

    It's like Harry and his 'friends' can't deal with multiple interpretations of a story and character. I love Arkham Asylum I love the Animated Series I love Frank Miller's Batman And I love Nolan's Batman. All are awesome, NONE are the same as the other, and yet here Harry is ragging on Nolan's batman because it's 'not like Batman'. WTF?

  • July 19, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST

    RE: Nolan's "Batman"

    by jorson28

    I haven't seen the new film yet, of course, and am TRYING to stay away from the "ultimate" spoilers. I like Nolan's Batman films so far, but I remember questioning the rush to crown BATMAN BEGINS with "utter greatness" and being subsequently banned from what was supposed to be a fan site for "Batman On Film"... period. Naturally, that site has since changed its toon to pretty much championing ONLY the Nolan "vision," so I guess it's at least being more honest now. Anyway, the one thing I can agree with wholeheartedly - either about Harry's review or some of the echoed sentiments in the talkback - is that when Ledger died, it may have boosted business for "The Dark Knight," but it all but derailed whatever master plan they had for this series. Of course, I was always skeptical about the ending for "The Dark Knight" - which was bold and worked in its own way - but it felt premature considering the inevitability that someone at Warners would lure Nolan back for a third film in this particular story framework. Otherwise, I just think that whatever reaction one has to TDKR, it's a reaction influenced, for better or worse, by hype and by the knowledge that what Nolan is really doing is, in essence, fulfilling a contractual obligation as best he can to wrap up the story he started - if not to Warners, then to the audience that liked the first two films. Normally, I'd never excuse "ending Batman" the way this movie allegedly does (again, staying away from major spoilers), but really, what else was Nolan going to do with the series without also risking allegations that he'd given up on HIS VISION and caved to the conventional demands of the source medium (i.e., that comic book characters go on indefinitely)? I respect Harry's knowledge of movies and what makes them "cool" for so many, but I still look forward to seeing this tomorrow. If I have to have a "conclusion" to a version of Batman - arguably my favorite fictional character and/or world ever - then I'm just going to embrace the intent behind it and not ruin the whole experience worrying about what other people don't like about a character that can be, has been and should ALWAYS be interpreted in as many different ways as possible. For me, at least, that's what makes Batman so great, and if that means incurring some people's wrath, so be it.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Also, I don't get how it can be called bloated or long

    by JorEl214

    It's 13 minutes longer than The Dark Knight!

  • Use reviews as a guide if you want - but dont base your decision on reviews alone, and certainly not HARRY'S bloody reviews. I'm sorry, Harry, nothing against you, but DAMN, man, you have some strange ways of going about deciding what you do or don't like - and much of it seems to boil down to what you were EXPECTING when you went into the theater- an approach that is inherently flawed - the filmmaker is not you - and the movie is not going to be made based on your views.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST

    It is Nolan's Batman

    by JorEl214

    that's what I don't get about Harry's review. The stakes have been raised for sure, but it's still Nolan's Batman.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST


    by jorson28

    Why I wrote "toon" instead of "tune" is beyond me. Sorry... LMAO!

  • July 19, 2012, 8:13 a.m. CST

    And giving away the ending...

    by eldeejo

    is a total bitch movie. You should be ashamed of yourself Harry. And I usually don't mind your giggle filled reviews.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    SeanPB....I wish I could shake your hand!!!!!

    by BoyNamedSue

    Well said sir.....WELL SAID!!!!!

  • July 19, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Batman quit more than Spidey.

    by vanchimera

    For fuck's sake. When the main point of your review is telling us how much more you know about Batman than we do, please at least back that shit up. Makes you look like a goddamn fool.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:15 a.m. CST

    seanpb re: "wow this review is emberrassing" response

    by Burnam

    damn well written, sir. thanks for your nice post.

  • Because *whisper* you keep paying for it! I'm going to laugh when they reboot Batman with an angsty emo teen playing Bruce Wayne, and he goes around whining and brooding about his parents rather than actually doing something about it. enjoy your piece of shit remake starring one of the Jonas brothers as Batman, you miserable twats. But seriously though.... simply by virtue of the fact that Batman is a property that will make a lot of money no matter how it is told, there will inevitably be a reboot and a reboot of that reboot and so forth. I just hope you guys realize that this is VERY likely, given the history of these kinds of projects, going to be the best interpretation of Batman you will see in the next 20 years. So don't hold your breath.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:22 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight sucked, too. Ledger was no Joker.

    by Flip63Hole

    The Dark Knight was easily the most unentertaining and misdirected comic book film I've ever seen. Nolan's been shitting out mediocrity ever since. Can't wait to NOT see this movie. Bring on the reboot, baby!

  • Avatar was a fluke - for some reason it just so happened that EVERYONE saw that movie. Even for extremely, EXTREMELY hyped movies, that kind of attendance is unheard of. 2.6 BILLION. No other film in history has even come close to being in the same ballpark, Titanic included.

  • SPOILERS here as I saw the movie last night as well: You have to buy the premise of the groundedness established already. The physicality and "enhancement" of Bane as portrayed as is nothing to get mad about. Hoses that roid him out and inflate him is a nonstarter for this series of movies - that brand of fantastical would be movie-breaking for a lot more people than the path chosen. The redo of his origins though I can agree with Harry to an extent (it's just curious) but they at least tried to tie into the story they were telling than be arbitrary to be newly authorial. It would have been more interesting to let Talia live I agree and they held their cards on that bit too long perhaps but I have a feeling that people in the audience that have no idea who Talia is beforehand will appreciate how its done better - particularly if they know the first film well enough. I disagree pretty strongly about the scale complaints here. The dread and devastation heaped upon Gotham here is towering and palpable. Its almost unrelenting in its punishment and grimness I felt - especially as tied into the depiction of Bruce's ordeal. This is just sour grapes - there is something much more than 9/11 style devastation and consequence depicted here and keeps getting piled on with the hero rendered powerless. I can understand the frustration with that but I'd argue it's absolutely intentional. That said I agree it was disappointing not to get to see Batman being Batman more. He's almost always on the defensive or severely wounded in this movie. There is very little room for him to...spread his wings and show what he does, either in calculating/intellectual or physical fashion. That's not to say there aren't bits but in the overall the Bruce Wayne stuff plays better than the Batman stuff it seems and I can identify a little with that feeling out of balance. I loved Hathaway. She's very good in this and makes what could be an absurdity of camp or exploitation compelling and grounded. She has magnetism and is good in this. As a longtime comics fan about the same age as Harry though I understand and feel the disappointment he feels in spots. It's annoying when things you consider to be defining characteristics get treated shabbily. I can quibble too as I hate they cavalier way almost all these movies treat hero secret identities and/or lairs (secret identities are cavalierly revealed to multiple people all the time and this time out Wayne Manor is essentially eliminated again and Wayne Enterprises blinked out of existence. I get the problem of condensing decades of scope into movie arc(s) but taking away identities from Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne, literally and figuratively, really neuter the characters in fundamental ways. Even so this movie is more than worthy of seeing. It's not as narratively strong or dramatically propulsive as the last one (a few spots get there but not as a whole movement) but this one's depths dread and sustained intensity might take some people by surprise - especially in IMAX.

  • We'll get one eventually, but that's just because Hollywood has no better ideas these days than to keep rehashing and retelling the same stories ad nauseum. It has nothing to do with Nolan's Batman, which the majority of people outside this small group of angry nerdragers on talkback actually enjoyed quite a lot.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Pricklepants

    You deserve to be burnt to death on a huge pile of money.

  • Today, you've trolled for longer than the running time of this film. Take a break and come back tomorrow.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST

    And, all this, coming from the guy.....


    1) who thought Prometheus was great 2) Thought 'A Serbian Film' was a masterpiece.. 3) Said - over a month ago, that he coudln't wait for a Batman reboot (yep, weeks ago)

  • July 19, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Is Batman in this movie cause...

    by pancomplex

    In The Dark Knight we see Batman on screen for a combined 28 minutes (if I round up) in a film that has a running time of 2 hours and 32 minutes. You cannot honestly call The Dark Knight a "Batman" movie since Batman is hardly seen. And before you write that we do not get to see Batman in Batman Begins until 45 minutes into the film...well that was an origin story...the story about how and why Bruce Wayne became Batman. In TDK he is well on his way to becoming legend, let alone Batman, so much so he has imitators running around the city. So to channel Ian Malcolm "Now eventually you do plan on having a Batman in your Batman movie, right?" TDK or as it should be called, The Joker, is vastly overrated.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Once the reboot hits this is what will happen

    by Nerd Rage

    People married to the Nolan version will hate it regardless of quality while most people will either give it an honest chance or look for reasons to like it.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Harry trying to upstage Moriarty?

    by seasider

    A couple of weeks we had Harry's raving review of The Amazing Spiderman in contrast to Drew's negative review on his site. McWeeney puts up a very positive report earlier in the week and today Harry treats TDKR like a razzie award candidate.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:38 a.m. CST

    re - flip63hole


    Ledger was no Joker....

  • July 19, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    and there we go again....this site doesnt even allow full responses


  • July 19, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Maybe Batman climbed into a refrigerator and survived.

    by cookylamoo

  • July 19, 2012, 8:39 a.m. CST

    flip63hole.....Ledger WAS the best Joker..end of...


  • July 19, 2012, 8:42 a.m. CST

    and Scott pilgrim was awful, btw....just a load of mindless rubbish..


  • July 19, 2012, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Don't hold back Harry ...

    by MattHooper

    Let your inner nerd FLY out, with all the colors of a broken wind. Disappointed much ? Jesus, Harry.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Attended a press screening for TDKR on Tuesday...

    by HalloweeN Ted

    "The Dark Knight Rises" was brilliant. These three films are Nolan's take on Batman. I read Harry's opinions and his attitude of, "Batman wouldn't do that", but these three films, like a great one off graphic novel, is a seperate take on Batman & Gotham. For example, when I read a graphic novel and the story premise is that Batman is changed into a vampire at the end of the story, or that it takes place in the 1800's, I don't freak out saying "But, that's not the Batman!" or suggesting that if you do enjoy "TDKR" that you read some comics the way Harry condescendingly did, as he embarrassingly name drops Paul Dini as one of his groomsmen. This is Nolan's vision of a Batman Trilogy. I enjoyed all three films very much. Now, I'm looking forward to how Warners decides to proceed with the next chapter of the cinematic version of Batman. And, after reading a few posts, just to be certain, we are to understand that Harry LIKED "Van Helsing", "Spider-Man 3" and "The Phantom Menace", yet, DISLIKED Nolan's, "The Dark Knight Rises"?... Sure, Harry. Sure.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST

    In Harry's world, JJ and Lindelof will reboot Batman, no doubt.


  • July 19, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST

    mdouglasbrett versus scottpilgrimfan - i agree mr brett!!


  • ...yes, Inception was a convoluted Total Recall, if not without it's moments.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Saw TDKR last night at the same screning as Harry.

    by End_Of_Line

    I agree with much of what Harry wrote here, but I gotta say, Harry, really bad form in posting so many spoilers before the film is in wide release. Really kind of unacceptable. Would you have wanted to read this review before you saw the film? Yes, you have your spoiler tags up, and yes you put a big space in your post and said not to read blah,blah, but there are a lot of true spoilers in your first couple paragraphs before that, and you damn well know people are weak and will read this before they see it this weekend. It wasn't enough to post that you didn't like it, you seemed to go out of your way to write about the few specific reveals at the end of the film. While I was disappointed, it was still nice to have those moments play out. Bottom line is, this film is not as great as the first two. There is still a lot to enjoy about it, and it's still a good movie, but it was disappointing after how great TDK was. The middle hour of the movie drags. The thing I disliked the most about it is that it comes down to being a race against a ticking time bomb. It's a cheap plot device that we've seen again and again. But this time the time bomb is going to go off in 90 days so there is plenty of time for Bruce Wayne to recover from a broken back. Shit, I sleep wrong and it takes me a month to recover. Of course I'm a fat fuck, but still...

  • July 19, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Harry bashed TDKR before the prescreenings

    by Dustin Geisler

    His entire Avengers review was a Nolan hatefest. This review for TDKR doesn't surprise me. Makes me feel sorry for him

  • July 19, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST


    by vulturess

    avengers assemble?

  • I think Harry is still butthurt about Inception. He wanted to like it, but he couldn't wrap his pea brain around it. Look at this way big guy, you'll always have Burton's movies to fall back on and Schumacher's if that's your thing.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:55 a.m. CST

    re - scottpilgrimfan - go back to watching Elektra,Wolverine etc..


  • ...we're talking master filmmaker who only found himself paired with The Bat because we were reeling over the direction the franchise had taken in the Schumacher films.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST


    by liquids

    The fights SUCK.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Nolan is a bully in Harry's Eyes

    by hoorayforeric

    Harry is a geek and has always been one. He embrasses his geekness and surrounds himself with other geeks. When Harry goes to a theater, he wants to "geek-out" and get that nostalgic euphoria and goosebumps he remembers from his childhood. Nolan took a beloved comic book character and has taken it and comic book movies to a whole other level. To Harry...that level is so high, that it's almost as if Nolan is the bully that stole their football and started his own game with his cool friends and attracted people to watch his game, rather than Harry's. This is what bothers Harry about Nolan's take on Batman. It's as if Nolan never wants to admit he's making a comic book movie and that drives Harry nuts. Sure...Nolan doesn't mind basing it on the comics, but to's an action/crime drama that this "Batman" happens to be in. But that's what I love about Batman. It can go in many directions and I know in many Batman books where Batman was depressed and had major pyschological issues to deal with regarding the loss of loved ones. It's better than him still crying over his parents like in every other Batman movie, before "The Dark Knight". Harry hates that "Catwoman" is just a "Cat-Burglar" not the "Catwoman" he wants. He wanted fucking "Catwoman". Whip, meows and even somewhat of a villain. I'm sorry...but you probably won't get to see the vision the animates series or video games have shown. Nolan has given us the Joker of all Jokers. Nobody would want to risk their careers reprissing that role again...not for a VERY long time. Harry...we know you like the fun movies and never review anything that's oscar worthy outside of the "Lord of the Rings". Not saying Nolan's movie will be an Oscar contender...but it goes in that crime drama direction and you just loved that "Avengers" type fun and want more. I loved "Avengers"...but I'm ready for the dark and gloomy tales, too.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Sure hope the upcoming reboot is an origin story

    by SkitZo


  • July 19, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Every Complaint Is Consistent With the Nolan Character

    by ISignedUpBecauseofHarrysBatmanReview

    Harry, I understand you have an attachment to the character and that attachment has only been reinforced by your fandom; but Batman retiring for 8 years is the only sensible thing for both the character and the self-contained trilogy which focuses on a realistic portrayal of how a character like Batman becomes a mythic symbol. Consider that Batman cannot function in Nolan's Universe without police cooperation. When we last left Batman, he was being chased by those very same police that, it is suggested as much as shown, did the grunt work of actually arresting and prosecuting the mafias, gangs and assorted criminals that perpetuated crime in the city. Realistically, what district attorney would be able to prosecute a criminal if the majority of the legwork and apprehension was done by a character, who formerly was grudgingly tolerated and now is public enemy #1 for being a villainous blight on the city? Also consider that your fandom enamors you to a comic book Batman who is not as fleshed out as Nolan attempts his character to be. Whether it is the Caped Crusader Silver Aged Batman, or the Frank Miller psychopath; these are not exactly substantive literary characters. Miller's character, who has been the most influential and definitive iteration of the last twenty years, does not make a very interesting or empathetic protagonist on the big screen in a summer movie. Most people do not have the stomach or patience to wade through three hours of film (or an arc done in three films) where the hero is deconstructed to be as warped as the villains he is chasing. Miller's Bruce Wayne is a child in arrested development, Nolan attempts a much more realistic portrait of a man, organic and inconsistent like all men, who is damaged by his trauma but is mature enough to resist collapsing into his own ugliness into perpetuity. If anything, Nolan's take is a rejection of Miller's thesis that Batman is an amoral vigilante we root for due to our own perversity and revenge fantasies. Nolan's characterization is dark but it is not that bleak. Which is why the overall arc of the three films cannot justify some of the things you prefer in your comic books. It simply wouldn't work in the medium, especially in a commercial film. Which is why it is rather clever that The Batman role is imagined as a vocation that does not need to be acted out in costume as a psychological salve [yes, I realize the comics have also done this, but film/television have not;] Wayne, as the third movie attests, has been using his actual persona to clean up Gotham; in broad daylight through charities and new technologies further elucidating to the audience that Bruce Wayne, in Nolan's films, is rather straightforwardly a knight on a knight's errand and not the "freak" that the Joker stated he was in the second film. There is nothing illegitimate or inconsistent about this from what we've learned in the first two films about the character and it retains the very spirit of the Batman comics. Furthermore, it is an intelligible part of the arc to experience how Batman becomes the mythic character he is. The first film establishes what it means for Bruce Wayne to be just with the Scarecrow and Ras as the mirrored antagonists, the second film establishes what it means for Bruce Wayne to bring order juxtaposed against Dent and the Joker, and the third film explores how peace is brought to the vassal state (Gotham) by its knight by creating the office of Batman. It's simple and executed rather well if, understandably for some people, boring or unispired. The movies aren't the greatest cinema experience ever and they aren't as intelligent or well executed to live up to Nolan's pretenses, yet to call "Bullshit" over the last part of the arc while claiming incredulity over supposed inconsistencies say more about you and your visions of what a desirable Batman movie would be than the rather well-crafted film; a cerebral and well plotted narrative, unlike, say, action, is not something Christopher Nolan is lacking.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST

    first of all..

    by vicmackey1268

    This is the exact same batman as in Batman Beyond. In that animated series you see a batman that is over everything...thecrime the criminals, everything. Im totally fine with Nolans take on that...after all if you think about it, joker won. Joker says Tonight im going to make you break your one rule...Batman fights him and saves him and tries to prove a point only to find out Harvey is bad. In Nolans universe, batman doesnt want to fight crime after fact he spends the entirety of DK trying to ween Dent into replacing him...mostly for Rachel. So to see a broken batman is totally in context with Nolans series. As for the fights. Nolan does action very well. Im sure the fights are intense. And really...are we going to put a spoiler on the fact that everyone with even a tiny brain knows JGL is Robin? In the comics Robin kicks ass around the time Batman fights Bane. HP got super dark, Bourne kept getting more and more serious-they even shoot is gf in the head-, its just the way sequels are...and after DK we alllll knew it was going to get darker. Buck up, stop thinking this is the happy joy feeling movie like Avengers, and get pumped that youre about to see history go down with one of the best filmmakers ever.

  • Cuaron's instincts filming action (Children of Men) would be brilliant with a more detective-minded Batman, and Del Toro has proven he can handle big spectacle action, that is steeped in Gothic trappings. Pretty please!!!!!!!!!!

  • July 19, 2012, 9 a.m. CST

    An awful review

    by elMike

    It's okay if you don't like the movie, you're entitled to your opinion, but to suggest that people that do like it don't know the character? Who the hell do you think you are? That criticism is made worse by the fact that you say you want it to be like the Bond franchise, a franchise that sees the character change depending upon who's playing him. But for Batman, there's only one true vision? There's some bullshit. There is no one true version of the character, there's been thousands of different takes on him. Maybe your favorite version of Batman never retires, but just like Frank Miller's, Nolan's does. This review is garbage and you come off like a condescending prick. And really, you're going to say people that liked the film need to go read the comics. right after you suggest that we should have MAN-BAT as the a villian? The most cliched unoriginal villian in Batman's entire rouge's gallery? So sorry Joel Schumacher couldn't stick around to make that happen for you.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Well this site has lost its passion anyways.

    by Super Rabbi

  • I fucking love Captain America...he is why I am on a diet today...

  • July 19, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST


    by Rufus

  • July 19, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Jett over at Batman-on-film loved it

    by elMike

    But I guess that means he really needs to go read the comics, clearly doesn't know anything about the character.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST

    You all talk like Nolan just ended the batman comics... comics

    by Sirius_crack

    Fucking retards. It is a franchise that he is trying to end. So if he dies, I for one am all for it.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST

    absolutely hilarious!

    by ahughes8491

    I will read this review tomorrow morning after I actually see it, but holy shit could you not see this review coming a mile away?? I can already ballpark everything inside it. Harry has a personal vendetta against Nolan, there was no way he wrote a positive review for this film. Amazing.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST

    @Jorel214 re: bloated and overlong

    by Matt

    It's not so much the running time that makes a film feel bloated, but the editing and the pacing. Have you never seen a film that feels like it goes on FOREVER? Contrarily, you've probably also seen films that are three hours or more, yet they move at such a quick pace, they're over before you realize how much time has passed. I've seen plenty of reviews for 'Rises' that mention it's a bit slow in spots, so despite being only a quarter hour longer than 'The Dark Knight', it could still feel significantly longer. The key for me is to go in without expecting another 'Dark Knight'-type film. 'The Dark Knight' was something special. Every movie is going to have its haters and critics - it's a subjective medium, after all - but for me, that was a one-of-a-kind film; the pinnacle of comic book adaptations, and a great film in its own right. I don't expect 'Rises' to top that, but I still anticipate I'll enjoy it when I see it at midnight tonight.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Harry is profoundly disappointed in TDKR, eh? That can mean only one thing.

    by Trying_It_Again_Part_2

    It is truly a fantastic cinema experience that satisfies the fans of Nolan's work. That's all anyone with half a brain needs to know.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Bruce hung up the cape

    by JorEl214

    because they were hunting him, and because of Rachel! He was ready to hang it up in TDK, he was ready to hang it up in Begins. There are specific lines of dialogue in the first two movies about them being together once his work is done! Plus, they were hunting him! He was the villain! What would be the point of Batman being on the streets, still doing good, if the public knew him as a villain? That would totally invalidate Batman and Gordon's plan to lie about Harvey! Jesus, it's not that hard to see that Harry! How can you be so blind to it!

  • July 19, 2012, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Haven't posted in years...

    by panicdawg

    ...but I think Harry, while levying a few valid criticisms, was predisposed to completely dislike the film. Structurally it is far superior to TDK, and is more fluidly paced than either of it's predecessors. Nah, it's definitely not perfect. In fact, I could add some nitpicks to Harry's list and could find fault in a lot of the character motivations. But ultimately, everything that the films attempts is accomplished with flying colors. It's not anywhere near the level of drivel that Harry is insinuating, and while I like Harry, it will seriously dissuade me from reading any future reviews as his criticisms seem to have some alternate intention that is unknown to me.

  • Fuck you Harry Knowles and the now crippled horse your fat ass rode in on.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Saw Batman last night, I agree with Harry

    by mrfantomashawk

    As soon as Bane started talking I was taken out of the movie. He sounded like a bad bond villain talking through a megaphone. I kept expecting him to say "No Mr. Batman I expect you to die!" There is nothing hear that speaks of reality, and so many ..wait...what? moments of no way that could happen, that would be fine if they didnt go to such great lengths to ground the first 2 movies in reality. Every move was telegraphed hours before it happened. There was not 1 surprise in the entire movie.

  • Got it.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    @elmike THANK YOU!

    by Matt

    I meant to mention Harry's comparison to the Bond franchise was off-base. He wants Batman to be a franchise that changes lead actors, directors, and nearly everything else to varying degrees of quality, just so it can all take place within the same universe? They tried that once before, and we ended up with 'Batman Forever' and 'Batman & Robin'. Someone else here made a great point that each film universe is its own take, akin to the one-shots and graphic novels that have been part of the comic book medium for years. Many of those are celebrated stories, so why shouldn't Nolan's trilogy be viewed the same way? Why does it have to exist in some larger universe where another director will step in and trod upon all the great work he's done thus far? But Harry knows Paul Dini, so his opinion matters more, I guess.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST

    I totally understand where Harry is coming from.

    by Jack

    Harry just like myself and any proper Batman fan, has a very strong idea of what Batman and all these characters truly are and how they should be represented. I think the problems that he has with this film is the very same that I'll have with it. At this point I'm just watching a trainwreck happening in front of my eyes and people trying to convince themselves over the brilliance of Nolan's vision for Batman. It isn't. Awesome that he saved the character from the Schumacher years, but it seems to me that Harry is right, 2 is the lucky number for Batman directors. I never doubted that TDKR will be a box office success. But now that's looking like an empty victory. It wins at the box office but it fails as a Batman film.

  • Congratulations, your film will make bank. Spider-Man 3 also did that. I don't see this getting good WOM at all, regardless of how much hype people are trying to inject into this thing.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Harry may need to go into hiding after this review

    by sengoksa

    Rotten tomatoes had to close there talk back on the dark knight rising for the first time in there History... Insane world we live in...Cant wait to see it personally.. just listened to the ost it gave me chills in some parts...

  • July 19, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    But it is my version of Batman

    by JorEl214

    I'm not a heavy reader but I appreciate the Batman books, along with a lot of other comic books. For me, this is the movie I've been waiting for, as much as TDK was as well. They are both equally the comic book movie I've waited for as long as I've been reading comics, on a casual basis, as well as watching the cartoons, playing the videogames etc...for me TDKR is the perfect blend of comic book outlandishness and Nolan's vision of a more grounded-in-reality Batman, moreso than TDK was in fact. We're still not seeing crazy villains like Killer Croc, and yet there is an epic scale, similar to No Man's Land, that I really enjoyed.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Harry is right on this one

    by A for Aristocrat

    This Batman could have gone on for years but WB got greedy and gave Nolan to much power because they are so desperate for a success. This is why Marvel is kicking DC's ass so much in the theaters. Marvel built a cinematic universe and werent afraid to get rid of people that were getting uppity. Now that Nolans Batman is over they have to reboot....AGAIN (and you know how much DC loves their reboots).

  • July 19, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Congratulations to those who can't allow criticism of this movie

    by Steve Lamarre

    You're a bunch of trolls. Harry makes some legitimate points on this character. He's not saying there's only one rigid way to portray Batman. But on the Batman-gone-for-eight-years crap: of all the times Batman/Wayne has lost or been betrayed by women, it's never been a motivating factor in his retirement. In Dark Knight Returns, it's old age, and even then he comes back. In Nolan's films, Wayne is only 40 at the latest, and had only been Batman for one year. Essentially, this character, as he's portrayed on the inked page, just absorbs/channels the darkness of all the tragedy he deals with (like Robin dying, being an orphan, etc.) and, as much as it haunts him, it fuels Batman. In some cases he even just brushes it off like it's nothing. It doesn't make him dry up and blow away like a stale piece of dogshit.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST

    loved it

    by antbwan

    I disagree with Harry 80%, Nolan's Batman is different from comicbooks and brings such a real world perspective, It's rediculous to say Bruce Wayne wouldnt retire,hell in the comics he retired s couple of times

  • July 19, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    We would have no problem allowing his criticism.

    by Randy

    but he likes a lot of bad movies, this review is terrible and he acts like he knows Batman better than other people. He fucking name dropped Paul Dini for Christ's sake.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST

    This seems to be the same pattern as Prometheus

    by lv_426

    Very mixed early word on a mega-geek franchise behemoth. Now, I'm not saying that means TDKR will fare exactly like Prometheus. TDKR will surely make more money, but you never know. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull raked in a lot of money but also got very mixed reactions from both fans and average moviegoers. Oh, and those of you saying we should all love every piece of media shoved in our faces because we are so privileged to have big budget movies to see, you people are the types that not only contribute to the erosion of true artistic expression in a rampantly runaway capitalist megacorp society, but eventually help pave the way for dictatorships and genocides.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    As for Fantasy Batman Retakes

    by ISignedUpBecauseofHarrysBatmanReview

    If there is one thing that disappointed me about the movie, it is that the scale was unnecessary. The whole "hold the city as hostage" and "maximum carnage" scenario was done in the first two films. For a character looking to take the mob out, he sure gets sidetracked by these extraordinary diversions that betray the realistic conceit of Nolan's movies. Of course, it is this grand scale that makes it a summer film. But still, I would have preferred if Nolan worked Batman on a much "smaller" scale, even if I would have actually added villains. It would have been perhaps most interesting if the film was about warfare between remaining criminal factions that the Dent Act could not take out with the Riddler consolidating what remains of the criminal underworld with a "twist" that Bane and the League of Shadows were out for revenge and the Riddler was working with them. I would have loaded up on villains from Batman's rogue gallery for cameos: you could throw in the Penguin, Black Mask, maybe Hush....They would not have had to be fleshed out beyond maybe a few scenes as representing rival gangs in a post-Joker era where the bosses were a bit more flamboyant and ruthless than the Maroni/Falconi/Gamble old guard. I would of kept Catwoman but dropped Talia completely. She didn't need to exist in this version. It would've been interesting to see how Nolan's Batman would respond to having to quickly pursue the Riddler and deal with his cerebral traps while being pursued by Bane, as an equally intelligent and physically more powerful force (and the Gotham police of course,) at the same time. One thing the Dark Knight did so well was to keep the scale of the movie pretty even-keeled; you believed the Joker was a city-wide threat but not a cartoonish threat like Bane who intimidates the federal gov't. I'd aim to see a bit more claustrophobic and small tone and the use of Batman's wits in ridding the city of these final and secretive criminal elements.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Harry, next time you want to write a review like this, don't.

    by aegri_mentis

    Really, you are just coming off as petulant. There's no reason to act like a 8th grader about your dislike of the movie. Plus, in this day and age, it's impossible to point to one definitive "Batman" in the comic world. Hell, last year we were treated to a storyline where Batman dies, lives throughout history in various forms, and comes back. Is that what you want? Whether you like Nolan's incarnation of Batman or not is a moot point. Judge the film based on it's merits, not your wants from the character.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Last lines of review is some bullshit!!!!!!

    by David

    I was fine with the review. I personally don't agree but hey everybody is entitled to their opnion. What pissed me off was at the end he pretty much said the if you like the movie than you don't understand the charcter of Batman and you should go to the comic store to bone up so that one day we peasents might understand the charcter as well as Harry The Great!! Bullshit!!!! This coming from the man who thought Green Lantern was good. I swear the skinner he get's the more of an enlitist prick he becomes.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    If you didn't see this coming ...

    by Cruizer Dave

    Harry is so in love with the Avengers, any perceived threat to that movie will be ripped apart. I doubt he's even seen this movie.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Fine if you don't like the movie, but PLEASE stop with the..

    by Dranem

    ...idea that there is a DEFINITIVE version of Batman. I have been reading him for almost 25 years (including his back catalogue) and Batman is at best described in broad strokes (all of which Nolan has hit so far). Each writer adds a different nuance to the character. I look at these films, as others have pointed out, as closer to the graphic novel interpretations of the character. The big difference here? The medium. Even across three 2 1/2 hour films you can't even scratch the surface of what Batman is all about, let alone all of the supporting characters and villians. The first two movies did a great job given the medium, and I am looking forward to seeing it finish out tomorrow night. Some people will like it, some won't, others will be neutral and it will never cross their minds again after they see it. But for god's sake stop playing the "I Know The Character Better Than You" card. If you know the first goddamn thing about comics, you know that argument completely throws your credibility under the bus. One last thing. Can I get an objective review from this site without all the damn hyperbole? List out your issues with the plot, characters, etc. without having to bolster your argument by throwing a "fuck" in every other sentence? Its the biggest problem with "geek" reviews right now. Everything is either the "BEST FUCKING THING EVER" or "PROFOUNDLY FUCKING DISAPPOINTING!". I don't care about how it compares to the comic version YOU prefer. How does it stand up on its own and as a part of the trilogy as a whole as a MOVIE?

  • July 19, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Re: Nolan created a realistic Batman universe...

    by Angel

    Nolan's goal was to create a Batman that could exist in reality. Of course, some elements are over the top. But, who ever thought terrorists could topple the Twin Towers? He has tapped into our post 9/11 angst more successfully than actual movies about the aftermath of 9/11. Nolan's Batman Trilogy posits questions to us as a society. What type of society do we want to build? How do we get there? What are we willing to sacrifice to get it? What do we do when it doesn't work? I'm a huge Batman fan and would have loved to see more of the comics reflected in Nolan's work, but this was his vision. The reboot will come and in time, we will see Man-Bat flap across the screen. But, for right now, Nolan has restored the franchise and may well be rewarded with film's highest award. If that happens, the superhero film will have to hit a higher bar and we will all be better for it.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    can't wait to see this movie

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    hilarious comments re this movie not getting good reviews, checking out rottentomatoes and metacritic it seems to be doing pretty good

  • July 19, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    I hope the reboot basically rips off Arkham City's tone.

    by DexterMorgan

    Not played Asylum, but the whole tone of AC was spot on for me. It had the crazy, supernatural tinged elements to allow the more 'out there' villains to appear, was appropriately dark and yet still very good fun. It also focuses on detective skills, gadgetry, fighting and 'flying'. Bruce Wayne/Batman was also ridiculously buff, as he fucking well should be. I love the Nolan movies, but defo want a much less realistic feel to the reboot. Just don't get back in to Shumacher's rubbery nipples and codpiece neon campfest please.

  • Which Batman are you talking about? Campy 60's Batman? 70's Dark Knight Detective Batman? What about 80's Dark Knight Returns style uncompromising Bats? - or post millennial super obsessed and brooding Batman? The one that said Bruce Wayne didn't exist. Or Countdown to Infinite Crisis/Brother Eye super-paranoid Batman? Or the ready-to-collaborate Batman of Batman Incorporated? Or the impossibly pre-prepared Batman of Grant Morrison which in NO WAY works with the fragile Batman of Scott Snyder - The same Batman that undergoes the ritual of Thogal (wiki it) loses his shit 3 days into the Court of Owls maze. And this is the next sequential arc in continuity! I am a nerd - but understand that each writer has an interpretation of the character. The only thing that is consistent is the amount of times they have changed his personality.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:47 a.m. CST

    scottpilgrimfan but do you like this movie ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • This guy, just like Harry and other Batman fans, GETS it. That's exactly my problem with Nolan's Batman or Burton's Batman for that matter, I won't even call be the name you know who. Until today, I think that Paul Dini and Bruce Timm are the only ones outside of the comics medium that pulled off a faithful and much more meaningful Batman than any other of his live action counterparts. Batman Begins sort of pulled off that and it's the closest that any live action adaptation ever did. There are more things about Nolan's Batman that I have huge problems with. Anyone denying the political allegories that Nolan injects in Batman's character is living in denial. Nolan's Batman is the ultimate Republican hero, and if it was ambiguous with The Dark Knight, it's more than clear with TDKR. And that was NEVER what Batman was all about. Batman was never a symbol to the 1%, he was never a symbol to estabilishment. Batman fought the system from whitin. And the basic synopsis of TDKR tells me all that I need to know about how much different from Batman's mythos this character is: Batman took the blame for Two-Face's killing and went for an exile. A eight years fucking exile when "peace reigned in the Gotham's kingdom" while Bruce is mopping because of Rachel for eight fucking years? As the guy in the video brilliantly put it and Harry says on his review: Batman would NEVER stop. He could take the blame if that meant that Gotham would see Dent as a symbol of hope. But he would NEVER stop. There always would be crime. And even if there wasn't in Gotham - which is impossible and non-sensical - there would be in some place else. That's what makes Batman alive night in and out, that's what he is. He isn't Bruce Wayne, Bruce died with his parents. He is Batman. Batman Begins was a brilliant start for what it seems a trilogy that in my opinion went off the rails. Thank you for putting into a video what I've been trying to say. I still have hope that Warner will get it right next time. Harry says the name of the guy on his review, the guy who is right for the job all the fucking long: Paul Dini. Get Paul Dini, Warner. Get a director who understands and loves the mythos. It's been too fucking long.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Apparently they didn't send enough

    by ButterNipples

    Snickers bars with the film for Harry to review. Sweet Tooths are no joke. I KID I KID!

  • July 19, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    This review sums up how I felt about Prometheus.

    by Ironhelix

    I like when Harry HATES something. It snaps him out of his pot-induced stupor, and he actually writes something you can understand.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Harry makes some valid points but it's not pretty good

    by Rachew

    I understand where Harry is coming from, he loves this character and makes some valid points. Batman Begins is the best entry. Dark Knight is good because of Ledger, this one is good because of Bale, Bane is pretty boring. Not a classic but by no means bad.

  • The Avengers is a brilliant film and a box office monster. The Amazing Spider-Man is the best Spider-Man film yet and shows that Webb and Vanderbilt get the HEART of Spider-Man just like Nolan and Goyer did with Batman Begins. Both are astounding box office monsters, one is the biggest of the year and 3rd of all time, the other is the most successful reboot of all time and WOM around the film is amazing among the general audience and the hardcore fans. Then we get TDKR. TDKR is Spider-Man 3 all over again. It'd be ironic and hillarious, if it wasn't sad and depressing. I don't see something like this getting good legs. Rotten Tomatoes score will be down after the weekend and WOM will be troublesome. An empty spectacle can get butts on seats in its first weekend, but not after that. I just hope that Warner learns the lesson this time and get people TRULY passionated about the source material, just like Marvel and Sony did with the Marvel Cinematic Universe and The Amazing Spider-Man.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST


    by rahtard

    I agree and I've been saying that for nearly 10 years, take Batman back to 1939. That would force the filmakers to make a smart, stylistic film.

  • I almost feel bad for him. Camp camp camp camp hate hate hate hate blah blah blah blah. It's amazing how with each stroke of the keys you prove you're a complete flaming moron who thirsts for attention. You'd think people having ignored him for most of the thread would have made him give up, but nope, looks like he'll keep posting his inane shit until the apocalypse. Just ignore the retards, guys. See the movie, formulate your own opinion like a smart consumer, and move on. I swear. Some trolls really need to get some pussy in their lives. Sometimes it takes a good woman to reel in a mind numbing dumbfuck.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    I can't believe I just spent an hour scrolling down

    by Real men cry sir. Real men cry.

    this talkback. You guys take this shit waaaaay too seriously. The only thing that is and should be canon is that Batman has some real fucking issues. Beyond that, why couldn't Bruce suffer from some crippling depression? Because it goes against what we know. Lighten up, Francis. Also, you guys need spell check.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    The positive reviews aren't all great

    by rahtard

    A lot of the positive reviews are positive because many of the critics appreciate the scope of the film, but knock it on the acting, editing, and plot. Which makes me wonder why they give it a positive review at all.

  • I have to get this out, because it has been bothering me for a very long time. Uber comic book nerds, who are 40-year old virgins, collect action figures and read comics, who go to the theater every summer and hate on every single superhero movie that comes out each year because it is not a frame by frame retelling of the coming book really piss me off. Grow the fuck up you fucking smelly weirdos. It is very unhealthy to just sit around all day taking every superhero movie with a tooth and comb making sure it matches up with each page. MOVIES AND COMICS ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MEDIUMS YOU FUCKING DUMBASSES! And the only way they can survive is if they change from time to time. That's what they are made to do you fucking BIG BANG THEORY WEIRDOS. Harry is just like those weirdos except he is like that everything. "Well I wish they did this...i wish they did that" Who cares harry, if filmmakers took your advice we would have fucking dumbshit movies. God, imagine an Inception with minotaurs, lazor guns, and two headed dragons. Imagine Andy from Toy Story 3 becoming exactly what Harry is today...a fucking weird, smelly, ignorant, man-baby. I am so sorry that smart films make your little head hurt Harry, but there are more to films than just lazor zombies, explosions, and boobs. There is a very unhealthy culture I feel which is spiralling out of control and it is all Harry's fault. You are forcing men to be boys for the rest of their lives, instead of growing up, I'm sorry you feel the need to never grow up Harry, but it's life and it is what your suppose to do. Do me a favor Harry, never have kids, you will be horrible, horrible father. Why don't you go to Neverland and leave the future of this site to Nordling or someone with a fucking brain. And take your copies of The Phantom Menace, G.I Joe, Green Lantern, Van Helsing, Spiderman 3, Speed Racer, Fantastic Four, Godzilla, Twilight, and Nightmare on Elm Street with you, go burp and fart in people's mouths Don't you dare ever try to tell another person that your knowledge of anything supersedes someone else's. Seriously we should all kick your ass for that, but your fucking weird ass isn't worth it.

  • It was only weeks ago that everyone was saying that Harry only now does positive reviews and come on we want to see his negative ones too. So Harry does just that and everyone's on his case etc. I may not agree with some of the stuff in his review as to why he didnt like it, I wont be seeing TDKR till Saturday morning so I cant comment on if I agree or not on how good or bad the film is, however you got what you asked for and now thats wrong? I now though have even lower expectations of going into this especially since it looks like the ending Ive read is sounding like its real, which I really dont like the sound of at all. This movie was meant to bring the trilogy full circle, Batman should have risen to the hero Gotham needs, hence the legend ends, but the true hero begins. The ending should be an easy thing to do: Mirror the BB ending and have Batman say I never thanked you and Gordon reply and you'll never have to. Then Bats nearly cracks a smile jumps off the roof and glides away. That way its left open for an easy continuation or a fresh take. As for the reboot etc they should go the way of the Hulk and refresh our memories of his origin during the opening credits then bang into the new story. That way they could include a slightly different version of how he trained etc to be more in line with the comics.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Part three's in general are usually a let down.

    by Matt

    But something tells me this is not nearly as bad as Harry makes it out to be. Kind of like Jedi. Not great but certainly not trash.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST

    never liked nolans batman

    by Pipple

    Theres always a strange internal paradox present inwhich we see on one hand a regular crime drama, then suddenly shift into superhero comicbook mode, and the constant jerking feels nauseating. Pick one dammit. Other movies do it, why cant you... Anyway ill see it cuz i do that, despite my feelings being confirmed that nolan never gave a fuck about doing batman properly and had other intentions. Shall see

  • July 19, 2012, 10 a.m. CST

    I have to agree with you

    by Rachew

  • July 19, 2012, 10 a.m. CST

    Nolan's Batman vs THE Batman

    by SutterCane

    While it's true that there may be no "definitive" Batman, as a fan I do believe that there's certain aspects to the character that should hold true across pretty much every interpretation. And the idea that Bruce would give up being Batman for the flimsy reasons that are depicted here just don't wash. Bruce is in for being Batman for the long haul. As long as there's crime in Gotham, he's not going to be sitting on the sidelines. And the whole notion that Dent's death and legacy has wiped out organized crime in Gotham is just ridiculous. Even if it had, what about disorganized crime? Are the streets of Gotham really that safe that Batman is no longer needed at all? To anyone who wants to cite examples from the comics or cartoons where Batman has previously retired, it's only been in cases where he believes he's too old to be effective (in the Batman Beyond cartoon, he realizes he has to hang it up when he resorts to pointing a gun at a criminal) or when he's had a crisis of faith in what he's doing - as when Jason Todd died. But in the latter cases, it's never a long-term retirement - just a momentary questioning of his mission - and the near-decade long sabbatical he takes here is just too long. My interest in seeing this movie has completely evaporated.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    @freeman_lowell re: Criticism

    by Matt

    I agree that people need to accept that the movie may be flawed, but I think the tone of Harry's review is part of the problem. Suggesting that anyone who likes the movie just doesn't know the character is an elitist, condescending, and flat-out bullshit attitude. Speaking from personal experience, I think it is absolutely within the realm of belief that Bruce Wayne - the human being behind the cowl - would be so wracked with guilt over Rachel's death that he quits. The very fact that he was Batman put her in harm's way, because as soon as one of Batman's enemies found out about his affection for her, he exploited it. Batman is sworn to protect people, yet he utterly failed to protect the person he loved the most. Last year I lost my 33-year-old fiancé to a bloodclot. I live with the guilt every day because she had been complaining of breathing problems, and I didn't make her go to the doctor. She had a history with clots and a condition known as Factor V Leiden, and had only weeks before been in the hospital after a blood blister the size of a golfball appeared on her leg. Knowing ALL of that, I should have made her go to the hospital. Instead, I had to attend her funeral only three months after we moved in. If you think for a second that my job was of ANY importance to me after that, you're dead wrong. My LIFE was barely worth continuing, let alone giving a shit about others. In Christopher Nolan's universe, Bruce Wayne is as fragile as any man. Yes, he's a hero and he fights crime, but he's still a man with real feelings and emotions. Perhaps Paul Dini's Batman wouldn't have quit, but Christopher Nolan's does, and I don't find it that outlandish having gone through similarly tragic events myself. I'm not suggesting it's a perfect film. Even I have nitpicks that go back to the comics - such as Bane's mask feeding him painkillers instead of Venom (it just seems such an integral part of the character), and I'm not even necessarily saying I agree that Bruce would retire. I'm just saying this is Nolan's vision of the character. Harry is free to hate it because it doesn't line up with his vision of the character - just as I recall he bitched about Toy Story 3 and went on some tangent about Andy's backstory that he COMPLETELY made up in his own head and how it clashed with HIS vision of the character - but ultimately, I think Christopher Nolan's Batman films have been excellent, even when they aren't sticking solely to the comics.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Benh Zeitlin

    by rahtard

    Let him reboot this. I have no idea if he wants to do comic movies, but with one film he has outdown most directors over the past 10 years. In Beasts of the Southern Wild, he has out Malicked Nolan and has shown he has a gift for internal dialogue which is what a Batman film needs.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST


    by David

    ok , but all I'm saying is that someone may need a nap.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Isn't pop culture supposed to reflect the times we live in?

    by JorEl214

    With The Dark Knight Rises, Nolan expands on a comprehensive nightmare of the early 21st century, again playing The Scarecrow to the many millions whose anxieties complete the illusion

  • It shouldn't be getting people THIS worked up. It's entertainment. It should hold no more weight in your life than how big of a shit you took last week. It's just 2.5 hours of escaping reality and visiting another world. You don't have to watch it if you don't want to. If you go to it and don't like what you're seeing that much, just walk out. I think a lot of the nerdraging talkbackers just desperately need girlfriends. I suspect you'd spend a lot less time frothing at the mouth over how much fidelity the movie has to the comics (which most of you I'll wager haven't even really read beyond the odd issue here or there) if you just had a little sweet lovin' to go home to. Seriously though guys. It's a MOVIE. As in, something not to be taken too seriously. It's not like it's based on historic events. I could see people making a big deal of it if it were, say, a movie based on Nazi death camps or the hypocrisy of the very founding of the United States (all men are created equal...except for anyone who isn't white or a man, apparently - founding a nation of equality and justice on the backs of slaves - EPIC hyopcritical bullshit right there) and they made factual errors regarding the conduct of actual historical figures or cultural practices. But this is fucking BATMAN. I love Batman, too, but FUCK some people are a little too emotionally invested in a fucking movie.

  • is that you wanted to see the Man of Steel trailer? Yes, it will be a big perk for me to see the trailer as well but c'mon, really suggests to me you were going in looking to dump on this film. I hope that's not the case.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Well so much for the Summer of 2012

    by Patrick Pettay


  • July 19, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    After DARK KNIGHT you expected more?

    by The StarWolf

    We must have seen different versions, because the DK I saw had Bats utterly out of character, behaving in ways which defied explanation. The Joker was fine, yes, but it's not his name in the title, and Nolan seemed to forget that part.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Why did Harry even bother writing this?

    by Cruizer Dave

    We all knew he would post a scathing review of it when he posted his Avengers review. He didn't give it a chance. But as long as Green Lantern gets a good review. And Star Wars Episode I.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Any reports on the MAN OF STEEL trailer?

    by Michael Morning

    Has anyone seen TDKR that would like to comment on the trailer???

  • July 19, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    by jake0408

    This idiot wants to sit through a 2 hr 30 min film for a 2 minute trailer? I suspect everything he has written is purely for attention!

  • July 19, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    I <3 2 FART

    by Lou_Sassel420


  • July 19, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST

    the summer of 2012 will be saved!

    by Kakii

    By the hero that is Keith Lemon! August 24th cant come soon enough!

  • July 19, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    well said cynicalmatt

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    and very sorry for your loss As a few others have said Harry is not reviewing this based on Batman in the comics, nor is he really reviewing this as a movie, he is comparing it based on Batman in his mind, his interpretation. He cares about this character, and I am sure over the years he has pondered how his Batman movie would be. Hell am sure many of us here have. But we don't act like spoilt 12 year old boys who haven't gotten exactly what we wanted. The Inception review whilst not based on something he was passionate about in the same way it also showed this spoilt child who wanted the movie to be made exactly how he wanted it. He didn't understand why Andy gave away his toys in Toy Story 3 and again was critical of this point

  • But, DKR = Profound Disappointment. That is all.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST

    for of all Nolan technical profiency as a filmmaker

    by emeraldboy

    with Wally Pfister as his DOP. The Dark knight was souless and unenjoyable movie. and the whole rachel dawes plot was botched and badly handly. Why the hell did nolan bring her back and then kill her off. Inception wasnt as deep as some made it out to be. He is a great filmmaker and I look forward to his next directing gig. with Wally Pfister as his DOP.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I went ahead and read the whole review.

    by Jarrete Barnett

    Most of it isn't anything we haven't concluded through months of speculation, or dots we haven't connected already while set pictures were pouring in by the day during production. My mind isn't blown, by any of these "revelations" gleefully spoiled by Harry. I have mixed emotions about the notions he's made, like the limited damage inflicted on Gotham (false advertising) and the apparently whimsical reveal of Talia. Otherwise, I'm not worried much about this film. Still seeing it Sunday, and unlike Harry, I'll enjoy it for exactly what it is instead of nitpicking every aspect of it in the moment. For all I know, I'll still be blown away. But if not, I'll give it some time to digest before I fully know how I feel about it... as opposed to leaping on a bandwagon about it, one way or another.

  • I find it hilarious that the same geeks who tear Burton's Batman films apart for not being "faithful" to the comics are now defending Nolan's take on Batman after Harry says it isn't true to the character. Let's face it, none of the cinematic depictions of Batman have been completely true to the comics. That doesn't make them bad movies (well, except Schumacher's obviously). Burton's take on the character is just as valid as Nolan's. Neither is the definitive versions. I think people are realising that now.

  • Just saying. Batman and Robin happened. And you people complain about Nolan's movies? Things can always be far worse.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    No, Nolan Was NOT Greeted With Open Arms

    by DKT

    I remember prior to Batman Begins coming out, and writers on this site bitched and moaned about ANOTHER origin story, the lack of money shots in the previews, and went on and on with a deep sense of doubt that Nolan could pull it off.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    I love the Nolan movies and DKRISES is a fantastic and enjoyable film but...

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    The whole 8 years gone thing is just Nolan being done with the franchise but being too egotistical to let it go on without him. The whole problem starts with killing Dent in Dark Knight, in essence it should have ended like Long Halloween with Dent killing Maroni in front of Batman(and Gordon in the movie) and then turning himself in thus undoing everything they did and leaving Gotham in an even worse state. But Batman telling Gordon using a line from the comics that "the war goes on". Then Batman riding off into the night continuing being Batman because that's what he does. That is a dark ending with a hopeful sense of mythicism which it lacked but Begins had in droves. Batman would not just disappear for 8 years, yeah I know Dark Knight Returns but he did that after a long career as Batman and just the idea of Batman giving up 1 year after being Batman is silly. Plus Batman's war on crime is that. A war on CRIME. Not crime in Gotham. But crime in general, Gotham just happened to be crime centre and then turn into a freakshow when he came into the scene making it predominantly his responsibility. Having said that the movie is great but it does reek of Nolan just being done with the franchise. This does not mean it's half assed, he went all out but just wanting to end it now and leaving it in a position where no one else can take over but reboot then yeah, that's selfish and egotistical. It's shit because when Begins ended, that scene on the rooftop was so hopeful, in tone and narrative but also film wise. It was hopeful that this was just the beginning, the start of a new franchise and more great movies but then he ends it already? Where's the BATMAN movie? He started Batman and had Batman as a superhero in Begins when he goes to take down Ra's Al Ghul, then you had the fall/deconstruction of Batman in Dark Knight and now the end? Already? Where's the straight Batman movie in this universe with the tone from Begins, especially the second act which is the closest you'll get to an adaptable Detective Comics arc. Batman taking on criminals, doing detective work, taking down the bad guy, saving the day, continuing the war. Nolan didn't make this movie. Shame. Batman Begins is one of my favourite films because it was a real Batman movie and I wanted a true sequel to that with Batman being Batman.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST

    What we've learned so far...

    by Rhinosaur

    1) Harry has given the thumbs up to some terrible movies; conversely, TDKR must be pretty good. 2) The title of this article is missing something: "Harry is profoundly disappointed with (the lack of advertising on his site for) DARK KNIGHT RISES!" Go back and look at the movies that poured tons of ad $ onto this site, they ALWAYS got good reviews no matter how shitty the movie. 3) Harry says, "If you think this is Batman, fuck you, because I'm a comic book expert and Batman ain't nothing like this shit!" ALTHOUGH pretty much every point Harry made to that respect has, indeed, been in the comics. Oops. 4) Comments cover two sides: "Nolan is a fucking hack and a reboot is needed immediately (before they have seen the movie)," to, "This movie is going to make a billion dollars so it will be great no matter what Harry or you other fucktards say!" 5) I've said it before, and it's worth saying again: Just watch the fucking movie and judge for yourself whether you like it or not. Film criticism should be used as a guide, it is not the official take on a movie.

  • He elevated the Batman films (and the superhero genre itself) to a far greater level (and infinitely more believable) than ever before. Before his films, the public image of Batman in cinema was one that was silly, campy, for braindead 8 year olds. You have Nolan alone to thank for changing that. And don't even pretend that the Burton Batman didn't have its share of camp and awkward moments. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Ungrateful, unwashed masses. You get what you want, and then you inflate your expectations to unrealistic levels with each new movie he makes - so that it is impossible for him to please you. No film ever pleased 100% of the audience. Ever. And it never will.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I told you guys this would be almost as bad as spider-man 3

    by Volllllume3

    Nolan is a director who fucking hates comicbooks. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain. That's the major difference between him and Whedon. That and a massive fucking ego.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST


    by elsewhere

    Michael Cera is the new Bruce Wayne/Batman. Right up your alley.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I'm gonna call bullshit

    by Transhuman

    I didn't read the article or look at any of the comments as I'm trying not to break my bat-hymen in any way before tonight. But my guess is that Harry either loved this movie or liked it just fine and there's a little bit of hit-seeking in that headline. I'll know for sure in 11 and 1/2 hours.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Well, it's no Abraham: Lincoln Vampire Hunter...

    by chains

    The first time I read this website, I thought it was cool. Now, 15 years later... seeing what Harry typically likes, I find his reviews the least worthwhile of anyone. Harry likes big, happy, shiny, CG-filled, campy, stupid, comic-y silliness. The more connected a movie challenges him to think, the more angry he becomes. The more it amplifies his disconnect from reality, the happier he becomes. He is a man-child, fighting petulantly to avoid growing up... and throws tantrums when anyone reminds him of that fact.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Harry, That Last Paragraph Grates

    by DKT

    That last paragraph, grates, Harry. As if people who read the comics and play the games and genuinely love Batman as much as you do can't love this movie too. I've seen several Batman comic book writers write glowingly about this film: Neil Adams and Neil Gaiman, specifically. I'm sure there are others who hate it, and that's cool. You hate it, and I appreciate you for lowering my expectations. But suggesting people who like this movie aren't real Batman fans, or as big of Batman fans as you are, sucks.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST

    The League of Shadows

    by Matt

    One more criticism of Harry's review: He gripes that the League of Shadows is a rehash of old plot elements, but as someone else pointed out, that's called a story arc. The object of any film is to resolve the story set up in the earlier stages. Is 'Return of the King' terrible because it's still about Frodo trying to destroy the One Ring? Is 'Return of the Jedi' terrible because the Empire builds ANOTHER Death Star and the Rebels destroy that one too? Like those films, Nolan's Batman tale is a trilogy, so it's only natural it would deal with the League in some capacity. Does anything think they simply STOPPED existing after CENTURIES simply because Ra's Al Ghul was apparently killed? Oh, and @darthflagg, that's a good point but I, for one, still enjoy Burton's Batman films.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Have to say I loved it but the Sound Mixing was pretty bad

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    Loud movie but mixed very badly, so much dialogue is inaudible due to the mixing of the ADR but also the general mixing of dialogue within the scenes. Also I think the complaints about Bane's voice were heard, the whole Prologue is fucking different. It is so obviously rerecorded but it's worse because although you couldn't understand a lot of what Bane was saying, his tone and the timbre and mixing was fantastic. But now it is so front and centre in the mix it just sounds ridiculous. Hardy also delivered the lines differently and they sound nowhere near as threatening. When he says "No one cared who I was until I put on the Mask" it is said once the hood is taken off as opposed to before in the prologue with Mission Impossible. It doesn't have the impact anymore.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Fuck You harry...and your slant eyed cunt wife

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

  • July 19, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST

    And another thing...

    by Matt

    Harry criticizes Nolan for changing Bruce Wayne's character, yet he praised 'V For Vendetta' as being true and faithful to the graphic novel, when it was far from it. V is a straight-up anarchist in the novels. He isn't a hero or a freedom fighter. Evey is a prostitute in the novels, not the pure and virtuous TV studio employee she is in the film, and yet in his review of the film he says, "they fucking made the comic!" Um, no. No they didn't. Not really. I enjoyed the film, but it's hardly true to its source in many ways. Did Harry just open up the books to look at the pictures, and not bother to READ them? OK, I'm done now. Seriously. I need to work so I can leave on time and head to my local AMC for the Dark Knight Trilogy event!

  • July 19, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Nolan understand the mythos better than most

    by TheLastCleric

    I’ve tried to keep my own exposure spoiler-free but from the trailers it was obvious this was a combination of Knight Fall and The Dark Knight Returns. What is strange is that people are actually agreeing with Harry’s take on the character when it can be demonstrated as false. Not only did Batman retire in Miller’s comic but he was actually unsure of his return to crime fighting after healing up from his beating at the hands of Bane in Knight Fall. That aside, Nolan has understood this character from the very beginning, which is why we were given a true look at his relationship with his father (entirely glossed over by earlier directors) and a well-defined (and sometimes almost adversarial) relationship with Alfred. He also understood, far better than Burton and Nicholson, what the Joker represented and the fact that Batman saves him from his certain death in TDK is proof positive of this. I’m also amused that these so called “real” Batman fans consider Bane a weak character when in the comics he is one of the few villains to have legitimately beaten Batman both physically and mentally. Whatever adjustments and changes Nolan has made, the core thematic of the characters has always been retained. There’s a significant difference between a grounded take on a fantastical character versus portraying said character entirely out of the context of the established mythos, which is what Burton did. Nolan’s Batman is still Batman, just with a few more realistic tweaks.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    ultratron - what world do you live in?

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    Where I'm from, assaults are a big deal and if there was a guy who was so badass he would assault the criminals(who general humans are afraid of because they are dangerous) assaulting people and he was like this unstoppable fighter who could take down mob bosses. I guarantee you people would be shit scared of him.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Fuck You harry & your slant eyed cunt wife

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

  • July 19, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST

    If Harry wants the comic Batman so much

    by aegri_mentis

    Then he should have been upset by the whole franchise. Batman of the Nolanverse Bale is like 5'11"? Maybe 200 lbs at his BB chunkiest? Batman of the comics Described as 6'2". DRAWN AS 6'5" Listed around 210 pounds. DRAWN LIKE A RIPPED 300 POUNDS. "Your" Batman was never a part of this trilogy.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST


    by the artist formerly known as messi

    As a film, it is good. opinions(even mine) on whether Batman would retire, ending, plot, whatever. The film works. It is longer than Dark Knight but feels shorter because it doesn't have the weak narrative flow of Dark Knight or bad pacing of it. If it wasn't based on anything, just an original random movie released, it'd be one of the best of the year. Still is considering it is based on something.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    TDKR really DOES sound like it has PROMETHEUS-type issues

    by FluffyUnbound

    Namely that the plot revolves around wild implausibilities that aren't well explained. I don't mean the central conceit of the film, i.e. that Batman exists. I mean the details of the story that the plot mechanism turns around. If they really fail to explain how Gotham City all of a sudden has no crime, that might annoy me. Much more critically, if Bain takes over Gotham City for months at a time and there's no armed forces response, that would take me right out of the film, maybe irretrievably. It's a comic book universe, but it still has to be a recognizably human and plausible universe.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Things OKAY by Harry in The Dark Knight

    by Darklordpoopypants

    1) The Joker not being permanently white<p> 2) The Joker not being created by Batman <p> 3) Two Face not being scarred by acid <p> 4) Two Face being somewhat of a revenge-minded vigilante <p> 5) The Joker, essentially, creating Two Face <p> 6) Batman killing Two Face <p> These are all kosher, but Ra's Al Ghul (who is not immortal in the Nolanverse) training Bane (and Bruce Wayne, let's not forget) is a deal breaker. <p> What a fucking putz

  • July 19, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST

    And TDK is only 20 min longer than Avengers

    by TheLastCleric

    I loved The Avengers but I think it’s amusing that TDKR is being nitpicked regarding plot holes and bloat considering the Avengers was, in terms of narrative, little more than an addendum to five previous films yet is still nearly as long as a conclusion to a trilogy known to contain a fair amount of exposition. Even if the film is a tad long, maybe we should all thank Nolan for not being a cunt and splitting this bitch into two pieces and milking us twice.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Anyone surprised by how much comic book there was?

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    I mean I thought Nolan would hold back, maybe allude to things but to actually have Bane's origin(with a twist). Have the prison. To have the big part of Knightfall(that was a surprise). I really thought we'd all imagine that Knightfall bit to be in it but think that Nolan would never do it or do something similar but he actually does it. That was surprising. And the plot basically being No Man's Land.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises.. porno flick???

    by Micah

    Worst major movie title ever....... Did not like the first two. Not even going to give this one a chance.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises.. porno flick???

    by Micah

    Worst major movie title ever....... Did not like the first two. Not even going to give this one a chance.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST

    RE: wcolbert

    by john gardiner

    Thank you. please allow to add a few things... FIRST -lots of hate for harry? because he's ginger? or fat? or has been way off on some movie reviews? WTF ??? NOW- lets be honest with ourselves, Green Lantern sucked, xmen origins:wolverine sucked. the next sounds like it will suck as well. ( please let me be wrong ) looking at past Batman movies: BATMAN- pretty good. RETURNS- not so much still better than either of the next 2. FOREVER- felt like a sequel to adam west Batman show. BATMAN AND ROBIN-pretty much felt violated watching it. haveing said that we should feel lucky we even get a different Batman. NOLAN- BATMAN BEGINS-i liked. TDK-far and away best Batman movie. TDKR-it wasnt bad in fact as a movie, pretty good; as a BATMAN MOVIE it was all right. good way for Nolan to leave. WB will reboot BATMAN in 4 years. and we'll get another origin story. Blah Blah. who should do it? KURT SUTTER-GRAHAM YOST-ALFRED GOUGH,MILES MILLAR. hell give me $85 million and let ME do it, i'll make THE KILLING JOKE or DEATH IN THE FAMILY or DARK VICTORY.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Worst review ever

    by Steven Trebus

    Seriously reviewing the movie based on its treatment of a comic book character. For one, Batman readily gives up his job to Jean Paul in the comics, so that's ludicrous. Also, why can't someone take the character in a different direction? God forbid we should have a serious superhero movie.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Harry is a fat fuck

    by Darklordpoopypants

    I wish I could just give ill-informed opinions for money like this ginger invalid.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Bane looks fucking HUGE on screen

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    dat movie magic. He looks fucking enormous. When he's topless. Fuck man, like a powerlifter. You'd never believe he was 3 inches shorter than Bale. or that his arms were smaller than mine. When he's towering over Ben Mendohlson. movie magic. Looks like a giant. Seriously fills the screen physically and with presence.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Anyone care to comment on the MAN OF STEEL trailer?

    by Michael Morning

  • July 19, 2012, 11:08 a.m. CST

    So, it wasn't better than Iron Man 2?

    by bat725

  • July 19, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    I knew Harry was going to shit on this movie sh

    by bat725

  • July 19, 2012, 11:09 a.m. CST

    I knew Harry was going to shit on this movie sh

    by bat725

  • July 19, 2012, 11:10 a.m. CST

    When there was no SDCC panel coverage.

    by bat725

  • July 19, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    harry is the same guy who loved ABE VAMPIRE HUNTER

    by Kal-EL84

    I take his reviews with a grain of salt

  • July 19, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    When are they going to fix the problems with this forum?

    by bat725

  • July 19, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Batman takes ages to defeat Bane and his terrorists..

    by Kakii

  • July 19, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Batman takes ages to defeat Bane and his terrorists..

    by Kakii

  • July 19, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    But see, that's the thing.

    by Christian Sylvain

    It really DIDN'T seem like Bruce was affected by Rachael's death. The day after she died, he's already cracking jokes with Alfred ("Middle of the day, Alfred? Not very subtle."), and never lets loose any rage against the Joker for her death. No tears to shed, no broken spirit. The guy went back to being the same old Batman without any delay. So Harry, you may be spot on about that bit of Hypocrisy.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    RE tim burton

    by john gardiner

    Burton needs to stop making movies for awhile. He shit all over DARK SHADOWS, he raped ALICE IN WONDERLAND, he molested CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL GODS, TIM STOP RUINING OUR CHILDHOOD FAVORITES. you are aware that hollywood has more actors than just Johnny Depp, right? THANK YOU FOR BEETLEJUICE.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Really? The guy who loves everything trashing this?

    by noiretblanc

    I can't wait to see this to confirm just how hard people are trying when it comes to hating it. On the other hand, if it sucks, it sucks, oh well.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Batman takes ages to defeat Bane and his terrorists..

    by Kakii

    Bauer would've done it in 24 hrs! (sorry for the triple posts, slip on the keyboard, my bad)

  • July 19, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Scott Weinberg is my new hero!

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • July 19, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST


    by quicksilver80

    You so clever Harry ;-)

  • July 19, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST


    by CuervoJones

    Reboot. Paul Dini. Now.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Now I know what NOT to expect from this movie, not that I thought about it.

    by Jarrete Barnett

    Which makes me want to see it more. Can't thank Harry enough for his close-inded, bias rant of a "review".

  • July 19, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Unfortunately, Harry is mostly spot on.

    by Stifler's Mom

    Wanted to love it. But it's just not up there with DARK KNIGHT, or even BATMAN BEGINS. While the movie didn't really anger me as much as Harry, I still agree with his points. See for yourselves.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Using the same music from Batman Begins when Bruce first appears to his reappearance here - beautiful

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    that piece of music played when Bruce walks out to the prison yard in Begins is so special, immediately I knew it would be a different film, something more. And playing the same music when Bruce reappears in Rises is just so brilliant.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    The Ra's Al Ghul bit with his theme. Fuck me that was amazing.

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    Ra's Al Ghul's middle eastern theme that sounds so epic is played again when Ra's appears again and it is fucking amazing. That theme is just unbelievable.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    So I can file my Batman Begins DVD next to The Matrix

    by HapaPapa72

    In the I Refuse To Believe It Was a Trilogy Section... thanks Harry. Tell it like it is(but with a nice respect for those who might differ in opinion), and leave me hopeful that someday there will truly be a Batman worthy of the source material and the big screen.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Stupid shit like what got this site HACKED.

    by Zurge

    I no longer trust this place, it's becoming like Fox-News...sucking Marvel's cock has made it impossible to have sense or reason here.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST

    James Newton Howard might as well have been credited.

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    considering how much music they used from Begins and Dark knight. especially begins.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    So I guess by sometime mid-next week I'll know

    by Samuel Fulmer

    If Batman Returns is still the best Batman movie.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:30 a.m. CST

    If you go see TDKR at the same theater as Fred Willard

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Make sure you sit behind him, not in front of him.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Man of Steel

    by Darklordpoopypants

    I heard it was going to have a fighting style called "Super Kung Fu". Using buildings as weapons. So there's that.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:30 a.m. CST

    It must be the Texas water talking for Harry

    by Martin

    Harry, you must be on something here or every other critic on the planet saw a different movie. Then again you liked MIB3 and SW and the Huntsman, but had an issue with a movie that spent time onbuilding it's story. By the way, Roger Ebert would have slapped your fat head repeatedly for giving major spoilers out on a movie not yet released. Shame on you for a very amateurish move. Your spoiler comments should have come out in a week or you've done with other movies...example Toy Story 3. This just reaks of you getting snubbed by the WB on the press junket

  • Why the hell can't someone do a Batman movie? Why does Wayne have to be a small thin guy? Its insane.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Not putting the GREATEST HERO THEME EVER from Molossus in Dark Knight or Dark Knight Rises - unacceptable

    by the artist formerly known as messi hands down the greatest most epic hero motif ever. So epic and powerful, if that motif was translated into a word it would be "unstoppable". And they didn't use it in Dark Knight or Rises, how is this fucking possible? The scene in Dark Knight when he's taking down the swat, play this motif over it. FUCK!!!! In Dark Knight Rises should have been when he was beating Bane. Just so heroic. Or some part with Batman taking guys out. This is the ultimate hero theme and they only used it in Begins. In the tumbler chase, when Bats was trying to get on the train and the end of the credits.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    michaelh - fuck you man

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    batman begins especially the second act was like a detective comics arc. Everything about it was Batman which is what bugged me about Dark Knight because the tone was gone.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST

    scottpilgrimfan - fuck you and your agenda

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    The movie was great, fun and yes better than Scott Pilgrim.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    The Avengers/Marvel Screwed up AICN and Harry

    by hoorayforeric

    After The Avengers came out...this site geek-asmed all over their keyboards about it. Many people loved the movie, including me. But I also love Nolan's version of Batman and can take both. For others (like a lot of AICN writers and Harry)...Avengers took comic book movies on the highest level of geek-asm, to date. It was an exciting, funny, smart and warm. In the end, the bad guys got their butts kicked and the good guys won. Everything they dreamed of came to life in a huge awry of color and spendor. They didn't want it to ever end!! Then here comes this "Nolan" movie about a gloomy depressed Batman who in a funk because he misses his ex-love interest and a dark, serious tone with major plot twists and dramic storylining, more so than adventure. They didn't want that and still weren't ready for it after the Avengers. They were looking forward to "TDKR" but that sank more and more after experiencing the "Avengers". They finally found the holy grail of a perfect "Comic Book Movie" to the super duper comic book fanboy. "TDKR" and it's tone cannot hold up their attention and after the "Avengers", they're looking for some of "geek-asms" and they didn't get them. What they got was more of a Christopher Nolan movie more than a "Batman" movie, in their eyes and Christopher Nolan is still cooler than any of you. I personally rarely read comics past middle school. I'm a movie and tv show guy. I was cool in high school, college and at my job. I've banged a lot of cool stuff and I can date a hot date to see, "The Dark Knight Rises". I have to "The Avengers" and "Spider-man" with my guy buddies. Nolan made Batman cool for cool people and you can't have that back! No re-boot!! This is the best it's going to get!! Cool People win this one over the Geeks!! We've stolen girlfriends, stop being friends with you after childhood and now are even taking away your precious comic book movies!! Suck it, NERDS!!

  • July 19, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Reminder: None of you angry dorks have actually SEEN the movie.

    by Mr. Waturi

    So your opinions and conspiracy theories are both irrelevant and retarded.

  • Seems Nolan did exactly the opposite of people expected him to do, and haters are fueling the greatest fire of all movie times, Nolan is going to kill it and absolutely EVERYONE is going to see it, discuss it, debate it, and see it again to make sure. Love it, I fucking love it.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Am I the only one who's seen it?

    by the artist formerly known as messi

  • July 19, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST


    by FrankTheTank

    For once I agree with Harry. TDKR was a huge disappointment. I don't know that it needed more rape though. Let's get a director who isn't afraid of Penguin, Mr. Freeze, Riddler, etc.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Ive seen it, Mr Waturi.

    by Stifler's Mom

    Sorry, but Harry is pretty much on point.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST

    I have seen this movie

    by R.S

    Advance screening last night, Leicester Square, London. It is brilliant, just brilliant. Anyone who loved the first two will regard this as a fitting end. This review is simply badly written, mean-spirited, bullshit. Written, I suspect, by a man who is annoyed at not being sent whatever toys other movies send him to get the good word.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST

    hoorayforeric -shit cunt

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    Avengers was fun but not even as close to what it could have been. The characterizations should have been like the cartoon which is like the comics. Comics are awesome. Especially the past decade. And you sound like you're full of shit, someone saying they're cool is not cool. that makes you a sad cunt.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    how to tell when Harry is full of shit

    by animas

    when he pretends to care about characters. I can list 100s of shitty movies with terrible character development that this asshole loved. I will wait until after I see this movie to go any further, but I know he is full of shit.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Saw it on Wednesday in IMAX

    by Eric Shea

    I thought it was great. There were a few things I didn't like about it(Bane's voice not being one of them) but the good to great heavily outweighs any of the small problems. I think that the Avengers(which I also had some problems with) was slightly better, but Dark Knight Rises is still the second best movie I've seen this year(not counting classic films on DVD).The action scenes are incredible and really need to be seen in IMAX if you have the chance. This is a long movie but I was enjoying it so much I didn't even realize that two hours and 45 minutes had passed. I wanted it to be even longer. I really wish they would keep making these with Nolan and Bale so we could see Clayface and the Mad Hatter, etc. Hopefully the new reboot team can come somewhere close to this. Once again, you should really see this in IMAX.

  • and see ALL of the many incarnations in the DC direct to DVD animated movie titles ANY ONE OF THEM IS SUPERIOR TO ANY OF THE LIVE ACTION VERSIONS- And they all have ARTWORK depicting Batman- just the way it is supposed to be!!!!!

  • July 19, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST

    If the movie is as a bad as the writing of this review, I'll skip it.

    by longcoldstare

    I hate to be the one that nitpicks someone else's grammar, but the writing in this review is just consistently bad. There are sentence fragments, run-on sentences, incorrect use of punctuation and wrong word choice throughout this mess of a review. I guess this is what happens when blogs replace newspapers as sources of news and opinion. Anyway, I hope that the content of Mr. Knowles' criticism is unfounded, because he makes it seem like The Dark Knight Rises makes The Green Lantern look like Superman II.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    BATMAN BEYOND, anyone?

    by PulpJEDI

    As long as we're passing the torch, how about a reboot that doesn't rehash the same origin story? Batman Beyond could be really fun in live action, and I'm surprised the nobody has even brought it up. Nobody cared about Spider-Man because it was more of the same. C'mon, with the right budget you know a Batman Beyond trailer alone would be hot.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Batman fans are among the most ungrateful.

    by Jarrete Barnett

    It's practically common knowledge at this point. First Nolan is the greatest thing to happen to Batman, now on the verge of TDKR are people screaming for an urgent "reboot", just to nitpick that five years from now, too. First it's too campy, so it gets dark. Now you want camp again, just so you can reminisce and pout about when Batman movies were dark all over again. Motherfuckers like you thrive off of complaining about this shit, which is why no one takes your opinions seriously or to heart. Because you're all as fickle as the most unreasonable cunt of a wife no man would hope for, or wish on another.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST

    I liked the other Nolan batmans so I'm probably going to like this.

    by MJDeViant

    That is all a review anyone really needs. I highly doubt Nolan screwed it up as bad as Harry thinks. In all honesty, 90% of the time I go with the exact opposite of Harry's recommendations (unless it's just obvious it is probably something I'll like and Harry likes it). BUT, I'd rather he stay like he is and seemingly love garbage then just say he liked something when he didn't. Like others have said, Van Helsing, Green Lantern...I have no idea what to make of anyone liking those like Harry EXCEPT, oddly enough as Harry isn't a huge fan of MST3K, maybe he likes trainwrecks that amuse by being impossibly not amusing or almost cringeworthy failures. Either way your reviews are always amusing to me Harry. Maybe not when I read them but after I see a film and think "What the hell was he talking about?" It's almost like a DVD-bonus game feature for theatrical movies that I get for free. Not even saying you're wrong about the Dark Knight Rises...just that I'm almost 90% sure I will be saying that.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Oh, the lover of Spider Man 3 is disappointed?

    by Erik Radvon

    Dark Knight Rises is likely fucking amazing then.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST

    This is uncanny MATRIX RELOADED deja vu.

    by Stifler's Mom

    Brilliant, universally beloved blockbuster gets weak sequel. Critical response is mostly positive- but everybody agrees that it doesn't live up to the previous installment. Harry trashes the movie. Half of the audience agree with Harry. The other half are blindly devoted to the filmmaker, swear it's a masterpiece. Eventually, a consensus is formed- the movie is a big disappointment.

  • Thanks for the heads-up. I'll keep my expectations low.

  • Try to be a little less objective, Harry. This shouldn't be about the way the individual wanted it to go. It should be about the meaningful pros and cons of the film as a whole. Which has nothing to do with evaluating it as the film you wanted it to be but evaluating it based on the universe Nolan has established. Understand that the Nolan movies are their own thing and evaluate it within those confines - not based on what you thought they should do. Besides, Harry...we all know full well that if film makers were to take all of your suggestions, we'd have some pretty phenominallly aweful movies. You'd probably have wanted armored giraffes with laser cannons on their heads and jet packs in INCEPTION.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Matrix Reloaded is a disappointment.

    by elsewhere

    Matrix Revolutions is a big disappointment. Learn the difference.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Harry didn't like Inception either.

    by Saracen1

    Which I loved. /grainofsalt

  • Like it or not, but this wasn't made to please your inner child (or even your current child-like mind) who went through all those Batman comics with fat, chocolate coated fingers. Just like the 89' Batman was Burton's version and the Schumacher's nipple toting Batman films were his versions of the character and it's surroundings. So to me it seems like you wanted the Batman from your childhood infused with Nolan's Batman world and when you didn't get it, you decided to hate it. Anyway my trust in your reviews has long gone since so many terrible films get good reviews from you (from which you were obviously paid in some way to give a good review). It actually got to a point where every film you reviewed got a good review, so I haven't even bothered to read them anymore in quite a while. But this somewhat negative review came as a surprise, and although I don't think the case here is that you didn't get paid (or received some other merchandise)to write a good review, but rather something more personal...

  • July 19, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST


    by Bruce of all Trades

    Can someone please take Harry's internet privileges away? Thanks!


  • July 19, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST

    This from the guy who once literally typed the words...

    by Blitzkrieg

    "REVENGE OF THE SITH is a masterpiece." Check and mate.

  • they get visciously attacked in talkbacks/comments. Why can't you understand and accept that this may not be that good a movie. Look at Prometheus, that film promised everything and gave nothing!

  • July 19, 2012, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Shut the fuck up, scottpilgrimfan. You've made your point.

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • July 19, 2012, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Harry's pissed he wasn't cast as Batman.

    by Jarrete Barnett

    There, I said it.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST


    by bash

    Harry doesn't know shit - he wants to try and be a hater. The film is great (maybe not as good as TDK but still great). Oh, BTW you dumbass Harry; - It's Gotham not Manhattan - Bane is great - and the fights are supposed to be brutal and toe-to-toe (it's not your fav Van Helsing with gravity defying shit) - It's NOT a reproduction of KNIGHTFALL you dick - All the police did not go down one tunnel - try and pay attention; it was a series of explosion around the city designed to trap multiple group in tunnels as EXPLAINED IN THE FILM - Bruce Wayne was in prison for nearly three months AS IT WAS EXPLAINED IN THE FILM AGAIN - it even showed Day 84 on the TV in his cell before he started to recover - PAY ATTENTION you CHIMP - It's a TRILOGY as told by the director and stars; who gives a fuck if a fat ginger man wants sustained series or did you think Nolan and co were going to make Batman films forever to appease a chimp like you? - It's always been rooted in reality as told by film makers so Clayface and Manbat would be dumb in this particular batman universe; or do you want another Spiderman 3? - Day to Night? again; pay attention, Alfred pointed out the timescale of the chase - It's not your batman Harry? good; cos you just want a live-action cartoon; and how many times has that worked out well? finally stick to blowing overrated directors who were once good and now produce crap like Robert Rodriguez. You have no credibility as a critic and having met Nolan last night - he's far too smart for you; go back to sleep and dream a few levels deeper where you're thin, not ginger and not a sell-out.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Not for hardcore nerds with no will to see interpretation then?

    by toasteroven

    Robin... is a girl?!?!!!!

  • As he has given Films lesser in quality, praise. This might put him shoulder to shoulder with that critic who got trashed for giving TDKR a bad review to the extent of closing a site down temporarly. WIL NOT READ REVIEW UNTIL I HAVE SEEN THE FILM. (I PREFER SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF SAY, "SPOILER FREE"?!?

  • July 19, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Batman the animated series was good when it had villans

    by Samuel Fulmer

    But some of those non-villan episodes (Batman in that kid's basement or whatever that crap was) were kind o' dumb.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Whoa! Sounds utterly pointless and nihilistic...

    by matineer

    I can find a better use for 25 dollars and two and a half hours... I think. Nothing against those who enjoy this type of thing. Myself, I didn't expect much.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Harry should be cast as the......

    by bash

    BLOB in the next Wolverine movie or a Fat Ginger Sell-out

  • July 19, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Your comment system sucks.

    by toasteroven

    Ate 3/4 of my response. I was referencing "The Dark Knight Returns" as a point of not willing to view an interpretation of the Batman mythos, as Harry is not choosing to do with Rises.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    REVENGE OF THE SITH is a masterpiece

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Compared to Attack of the Clones. In comparison to the other 750,000 films that have been made since 1895, no.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    BTW Where's Harry's Inception review?

    by Stalkeye

    Two years have passed and not one mention from the Gingerdead Man.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Too much fanboy geek....

    by Captain Dobie

    I'm sorry but this review feels too much like a little boy who has built up his own picture of what a Batman film should be like and is so invested in that fantasy that when it isn't that he pisses all over it. I honestly think he should have tried to watch it again after a day or two and separated himself from his own expectations before posting that as I honestly think if he does that over time he may re-assess it.

  • ....Snubbed by Nolan Harry has held a long time grudge against Nolan - he wanted so much for Green Lantern to be a big smash coz they lauded his with freebies - he gave Green Lantern glowing reviews, same for John Carter. Sadly morbidly overweight and now confined to a wheelchair he seems desperate to revive the falling interest in aicn by grabbing attention with tyrads he knows will provoke reactions. The fat friendly persona of his you tube uploads isn't the real Knowles, it's the bitter childish ranter intent on pushing up the site hits. If I had a choice of watching the movies Harry has glowingly endorsed; JC, Transformers, Green Lantern, Conan, Ghost Rider, or watching Nolans Batman trilogy I know what i'll be doing. Harry Knowles hates Christopher Nolans anyone surprised?

  • July 19, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST

    What the fuck is wrong with scottpilgrimfan - hey. stop being a sad cunt and do something worthwhile

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    dumb fuck

  • July 19, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Man-Bat COULD work in a 'Splice' kind of way.

    by jellypop

    I mean the genetics and method in creation. (I haven't seen Splice so I am shooting in the dark) Anyway, Harry is entitled to his opinion on any movie, as we are. I have spent the last two nights re-watching Begins and Knight in readiness for watching the new one. I have never been over crazy about Knight except Heath Ledger's performance. However I actually enjoyed it for the first time, I felt more involved this time around. When Knight first emerged I just couldn't understand why everyone went nuts for it. Harry though doesn't have to like a film just because the masses think its expected or popular to do so.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST

    nolanites are like scientoligists and paulbots

    by walt

    its scary

  • I'll bet shitpilgrim is a 13 year old kid. Even so, I'd love to just jack him in the face. Just once. It'd be enough to shut him the fuck up when he cant breath right.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Harry reviews...

    by RedJester

    are the equivalent of a kid with a severe intellectual disability and also no taste palette attempting to tackle being a food critic. Not only will his writing make little to no sense, but he'll also have a tendency to rate Jack in the Box as 5 star cuisine and Noma as inedible shit. Sorry for the harsh words Harry, but the biggest thing you and this site have going for you is that no one more capable has attempted to improve upon/one-up the concept behind your site which essentially is cool news and enjoyable talkbacks. That said, as you're still really the only site I'm aware of that does this even remotely decently (hard to believe but true), you still have my reluctant business.

  • That makes about as much sense as him quitting because they killed Rachel Dawes, or whatever that character was named.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST

    This Review makes me want to see it even more...

    by conspiracy

    When that toad Faraci, Rex Reed, and Harry all agree that a film sucks...9/10 times it means that I'll love it.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    @ messi2...I actually loved "The Avengers".

    by hoorayforeric

    I just don't have to justify one over the other and The Avengers gave one side of comic book movies that I love and Nolan is giving another that I desire. I want to see The Avenger heros and villains as they were shown. And I want to see Batman as Nolan sees it. I love his vision of Batman and the drawn out storylines. I don't want the fast, quick witted action of The Avengers with Batman. I'm also not a Nolanite. I was bored with Inception and never really cared about The Prestige or anything else he did. Just like his take on Batman. Nolan likes to pretend that Batman isn't a comic book character, as well as the villains and I like that style of realism, for a change. But I mainly love how he's made Batman and comics for cool people again and he'll make Superman just as cool. Yet another geek thing that cool people can take away from them. Nolan made it possible to bring hot chicks to the comic book movies again, instead of sneaking out with our closest buddies to see "Thor" and would never tell a hot chick we just came back from it. Hell...I was embarrassed when we sat at a bar after "The Amazing Spider-Man" next to some hot chicks and one of my buddies started talking about the next villains for the new Spidey adventures. He toned it down once he turned around and saw the ladies.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST


    by D o o d

    Funny thing about reviews is that we hold certain people to higher standards. So Harry giving something shitty like Van Helsing a good review to TDKR a moderate to disappointing one is that he holds Nolan to a higher standard. It's not fair, but it is human! just my opinion!

  • And with that kind of heat breathing down his neck, realistically, it'd be rather difficult for him to continue his job. That...and you're forgetting one very important aspect of Batman, and that is his humanity. He is not Superman. His will can be bent and it can be broken. His psychological stability has always been, at best, on a razor's edge. For him to act illogically, irrationally, is not something that I would think out of the question for a man who dresses up like a bat and leaps around on rooftops. He quit because he had begun to question whether or not Gotham even needed a Batman - he thought men like Harvey Dent were the ones who could effect far more real change than one costumed hero ever could. In his sacrifice, he had established the SYMBOL that is BATMAN in the heart of Gordon - the knowledge that even 1 man can make a difference - and he had faith that Gordon, like Dent (before he became twisted) was a man in a position to do some real good. He was prepared to take on the ire of all of Gotham for that belief. THAT is why. Not because he was depressed that Rachel died. Or, that's the way it seems to me upon analyzing Nolan's treatment of the movie.

  • July 19, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Why are so many people giving credence to Harry's review?

    by Bruce of all Trades

    Christ! It's a rant from an angry comic book nerd that's the equivalent of a 5 year old kid screaming and crying about something he doesn't like. Not in the least bit professional. Grow up, Harry.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:03 p.m. CST

    hoorayforeric - did you score then?

    by Kakii

    Hot Chicks do dig superhero films if theres a guy they fancy in it like CH in Thor, you'll actually be surprised that they do find a reasonable amount of geekiness cool, I call it chic geek, you just dont go uber geek on them, works for me alot! So did you and your buddy pull?

  • July 19, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    hoorayforeric - do you have asperger's?

    by the artist formerly known as messi

    who the fuck says cool people pick chicks. what the fuck is this shit?

  • July 19, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    there's meant to be a comma after cool people. meant it as one part

    by the artist formerly known as messi

  • There's no larger Nolan hater on AICN...

  • July 19, 2012, 1:25 p.m. CST

    scottpilgrimfan is an old troll. He used to go by "johnlockesbrokenleg"

    by SergeantStedenko

    He's a douche.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Looks like I'll be waiting a while to see the film.

    by Steve Smith

    I don't find anything funnier than grown men hyping movies to mythological levels, and then whining when they don't live up to their ridiculous expectations. Fuck it; I'll see it once the hype has died down and my expectations are reasonable.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Chicks don't mind some "geek" sides.

    by hoorayforeric

    But don't go full-on geek. I did pull some ass those nights. But I can't go into the major Avengers or Spiderman talk around chicks. It sounds immature and lame to most of them. But with Nolan, I can sit and talk to any chick at lengths about it. They love this version! Sure...they can have fun with The Avengers and do like the Chris Evans and Hemsworth in them...but could care less about talking about them later or any further storylines. Nolan's Batman is different...they're into it, thus it's for cool people again. We can unleash our geek side, by not turning all geeky with The Dark Knight Trilogy. I work on a college campus in Florida and two of my employees are student females (both stunning) and both going to the midnight and 3:45am showings tonight for The Dark Knight. I asked them about The Avengers and they never even saw it or care to, despite who's in it. Nolan finally delivers something that doesn't embarrass the masses to admit they liked.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry, HARRY...

    by Mikey Wood

    ...I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. The problem you seem to have is that Nolan's BATMAN wasn't "Batmanny" enough for you where as Schumacher's was TOO "Batmanny". You want a live action BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES. That's not what this is. You mentioned MANBAT and CLAYFACE in your review, for God's sake. That sets in stone for me the fact that you're approaching it as a fanboy and Nolan's films were NOT made for fanboys. As a fanboy MYSELF? I'm really REALLY glad Nolan chose to venture toward crime fiction and epic storytelling than toward servicing fanboys. I couldn't care LESS that Bane wasn't south american. That he wasn't a result of Venom. That all of that comic booky shit was left OUT. I think it was an incredible film and a fitting end to an incredible series.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:42 p.m. CST

    I only read far enough to convince myself Harry wasn't kidding.

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    I expected him to say ' Just Kiddin! SPLOOOGE! Best movie ever!' a few sentences in, but apparently not. I didn't read any further because I'm scared of spoilers. So Spiderman was okay, but this is unacceptable? Damn!! I still may see it at some point, but I'm no longer in any hurry.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST

    hoorayforeric I am not a chick

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    And yet I also would find 'major Avengers or Spiderman talk' to be unacceptably lame. Maybe you need to reexamine your gender essentialism.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Why would anyone trust a review from the man who slept through Inception

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    and bashed a great film like Toy Story 3 because it offended rose-tinted memories of his childhood, yet praised out of all proportion shit that he'd been paid to promote, like JJ Trek, Attack the Block and Scott Pilgrim? It's possible TDKR IS disappointing - 'Head Geek', however, has no critical authority, no integrity, and absolutely no understanding of cinema whatsoever despite having watched about three trillion movies over the course of his lifetime. Harry is the fulcrum of the ignorance of the online film community culture. His 'opinions' on this film, or any film, mean squat.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Exhume Tallulah Bankhead for the Villain(ess) Next Time

    by The Gipper

    The ORIGINAL Black Widow -- Tallulah Bankhead. Exhume her for the next Batman movie. Sure, it was her final role back in 1967 just before she died, but she OWNED that!!!

  • Bane not being powered by Venom? No hoses going into his body? That plot-point wasn't made abundantly clear to you BEFORE you went into the theater, via the trailers, TV spots and released stills? Bane not being South American wasn't obvious from the casting of Tom fucking Hardy? Every single aspect of the film bitched about here has been made perfectly clear through trailers and interviews. Why go into this with such anticipation? What different tone were you expecting?

  • July 19, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST


    by captain_kirk

    OK, that's bullshit right there. Where have they been sitting that they're in good enough condition to steal? Weren't they destroyed in the house fire? TDK was a shit-fest. I hated it and was mad at it for a lot of its crappiness. For example, I can't for the life of me understand why the Joker would have let either ship actually survive if the other didn't explode it. In other words, at 12:00 pm, there should have been a big boom. Period. Whether humanity was good or not. It was poor writing to climax it that way. Other problems in the film: Harvey became evil way too fucking fast. It made no sense that he'd suddenly become Mr. Shitty. The fight scenes were terrible. Nolan didn't choreograph for shit. The blue eyed bat signal cell phone multi level fight was an eyesore over 10 minutes. While we are on that point, how does Bruce Wayne manager to listen in on all 1 million cell phone calls in the city. It's preposterous, like Jodie Foster hearing the alien signal in contact. It's too much data. Crying over fucking Rachel Dawson Creek? Whatever. I didn't buy Katie Holmes in the first movie cause she was a young preachy whiny girl too young for the part. I didn't buy Maggie in the role because there shouldn't have been any question it was Dent all along. And Alfred burning the letter? Shitty. Batman getting to beat the shit out of Heath Ledger in the jail? Complete Bullshit. But what makes me go diarrhea full-on each and every time I watch this is that in the middle of the emergency, right after the police commissioner is killed, they immediately fucking name Gordon commissioner and cheer him on. TDK was the most overrated piece of shit. And now people are finally realizing it.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Nolan has become the victim of his own massive ego.

    by Volllllume3

    He's an overrated litte douchebag.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Mother's Pearls? REALLY?

    by captain_kirk

    OK, that's bullshit right there. Where have they been sitting that they're in good enough condition to steal? Weren't they destroyed in the house fire? TDK was a shit-fest. I hated it and was mad at it for a lot of its crappiness. For example, I can't for the life of me understand why the Joker would have let either ship actually survive if the other didn't explode it. In other words, at 12:00 pm, there should have been a big boom. Period. Whether humanity was good or not. It was poor writing to climax it that way. Other problems in the film: Harvey became evil way too fucking fast. It made no sense that he'd suddenly become Mr. Shitty. The fight scenes were terrible. Nolan didn't choreograph for shit. The blue eyed bat signal cell phone multi level fight was an eyesore over 10 minutes. While we are on that point, how does Bruce Wayne manager to listen in on all 1 million cell phone calls in the city. It's preposterous, like Jodie Foster hearing the alien signal in contact. It's too much data. Crying over fucking Rachel Dawson Creek? Whatever. I didn't buy Katie Holmes in the first movie cause she was a young preachy whiny girl too young for the part. I didn't buy Maggie in the role because there shouldn't have been any question it was Dent all along. And Alfred burning the letter? Shitty. Batman getting to beat the shit out of Heath Ledger in the jail? Complete Bullshit. But what makes me go diarrhea full-on each and every time I watch this is that in the middle of the emergency, right after the police commissioner is killed, they immediately fucking name Gordon commissioner and cheer him on. TDK was the most overrated piece of shit. And now people are finally realizing it..

  • July 19, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Harry Shut TDKR Off a While Back

    by hoorayforeric

    A few weeks ago, Harry wrote something regarding how his hopes were lowered after hearing some bits about TDKR that seemed to be the final straw with him and how he was ready for a reboot, already. Bane not having super strength through super juice and needing pain killers to live, isn't the Bane he wanted. He wants Selina "Catwoman" Kyle and not Selina "Catburglar" Kyle. I'm so glad that Nolan hates fanboys so makes me and the other cool popular kids stand next to him and our toadies laughing.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST


    by Sandy

    Where's all the stuff you said you were going to get to including how it all ended? or did I miss something? Glad I read this. I was worried based on what I was seeing that the film would end up exactly as you describe. Now I don't have to worry about blowing ticket money on it. Perhaps I'll catch it on Netflix in the future...

  • July 19, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST


    by KabutoKoji

    Yup, he sure as hell is. So nobody better wake up Anderson to tell him anything, God forbids he actually believes it's true. Somebody, however, should inform you how clueless your statement is. Film is, and always should be, an art form. However, because it is incredibly expensive to create that art form, film must travel a fine line between art and commerce. Your absolute acceptance(personal and collective acceptance) as an artist working in film comes full circle when you strike the right balance of critical and commercial success. In short, Anderson, great as he is, hasn't made a movie that forced the Academy to give out ten Awards instead of five for best movie, nor has he made a film that ranks in the top four most successful in terms of box office. Nolan did that and could possibly achieve more now with his latest DKR. And I'm not even mentioning Inception with all its critical and financial success. So yeah, many have been left in Nolan's shadow, Anderson included. I'll be napping now. Call me when that changes.

  • No, I haven't seen it, but please- this hardly looks like the Grand Masterpiece many of you believe it to be. Anyone who's got much objectivity will recognize the flaws in the previous Nolan bat-films (as with other superhero films). Heck, I could write a pretty lengthy list, but there's little point. The Nolanites reallllly need to calm down. I mean, when the general news media writes about the ridiculous remarks aimed at critics who dare question Saint Christopher, well, you know things are way, way, way out of hand.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Yeah but you liked Prometheus, so your opinion is shit

    by JadedCynic

    A negative review from Harry is accolades in my book. Prometheus was chock full of fuck-tards, and Harry loved it. Who gives a goddamn about any lingering questions or plotholes when the major problem was the utter stupidity of every person in the movie? I can't imagine Nolan drafting characters as blatantly stupid as the 17 idiots onboard Prometheus.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Is Batman mined-out now?

    by cookylamoo

    I mean we've done silly Batman. We've done cartoon Batman. We've taken serious Batman to it's logical conclusion. And We have a thousand issues of Batman comics to explore every aspect of his character. Where would you go from here?

  • July 19, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Don't care if it makes FIFTY Billon Dollars.

    by cookylamoo

    None of us will see a penny of it.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    After suffering through this again

    by I am_NOTREAL

    it's pretty clear that Harry made up his mind to dislike the movie before he saw the first frame, because of the whole "Batman would never quit" business. It was all downhill from there and the film never had the hope of receiving an even-handed look from him. Which is perfectly fine, it's a free country and this is Harry's site for him to write and post whatever he pleases. But in no way should this pass for legitimate criticism. It has nothing of consequence to say about the film itself, just that the writer hated it due more than anything to an inability to check his personal preferences and bias at the door.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Better keep Capone and Quint on staff

    by Martin

    They seem to be the only ones that understand film making

  • Mofo's gotta read, yo.

  • Mofo's gotta read, yo.

  • Mofo's gotta read, yo.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    No Venom-ventilator justification

    by John Baranick

    What was the whole Bane facehugger thing for then anyways?

  • July 19, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Didn't like the last paragraph Harry

    by Buttahface

    Only a fanboy would that condescending and have a selective memory about the history of Batman. In his early issues, Batman was remorseless killer. As was Superman. I haven't seen the movie yet so I'll reserve judgement, but I give Nolan credit for trying something different with the character other than the typical superhero persona.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    This review brought to you by...

    by The Pinky Show

    The man who liked Crystal Skull and not Inception. Hey Mr. Nolan, if you want a positive review from Harry all you have to do is kick down some swag...

  • July 19, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    hoorayforeric - picking up chicks never

    by the artist formerly known as messi

  • July 19, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Worst. Review. Ever.

    by VoiceOfSaruman

    OMG. "Your" Batman would never hang up his cowl over the death of a loved one? Ever read something called The Dark Knight Returns? I guess that's not your Batman either. I like a lot of B:TAS but I thank God in Hell or wherever he is that we didn't get a B:TAS level Batman movie. We got something truly cinematic and thought-provoking and epic - not a masturbation session deluded with subjective childhood memories. You refuse to accept any emotional or physical weakness in a Batman representation - you must not want a relatively adult Batman movie then, you want a Saturday morning cartoon with absolutely no character arc. Everything you fantasize about is at best direct-to-DVD animation level. It's sad, as the head of a popular movie website, you don't seem to understand what a movie even is. It's sad that you rah-rah crap films and dismiss Nolan's work. All you Nolan-bashers are just sad. Whether you like them or not, these are pretty heavy fucking movies he makes - this isn't The Hangover or fucking Green Lantern. And so many people love his films, they make billions, and furthermore, are engaged cerebrally and emotionally by them in a way that is quite honestly all too rare these days. You have all this evidence before you, that maybe you are in the minority as a Nolan-basher, yet you guys come on here for a negative review with your "people are finally starting to realize [Nolan's Batman sucks].." Well, a billion dollars AND industry awards are going to suggest otherwise, fools.

  • July 19, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Fans have almost forced negative reviews

    by Dreamfasting

    I feel like the hard core fans have set up such impossible expectations and been so viscious towards negative reviewers (and the rest of fandom in general) that I feel like Harry is almost forced to write a negative review just to balance any intimidation other reviewers might be feeling. There are times when I feel like papers post reviews that read "we can't give this an actual review because this franchise has a fanatical fanbase with boundary issues, so here's a couple of inches of generic pandering"

  • July 19, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST

    re: jb10000lakes ... Banes facepiece

    by James Robinson

    he's a biter ... nuff said? >_< (wink wink, nudge nudge)

  • July 19, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    I love how Harry tortures language

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    "Those are the two words that absolutely encapsulates the feeling I have at this exact moment." Fucking brilliant.

  • July 19, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    Great Talkback...

    by Vitruvian_Man

    I don't comment a lot here, but this talkback is too epic to not say something! I agree with all the general opinions here: Harry formed his plan of action on this film weeks ago, his "review" was just another rant on why this character didn't fit his preconceived (and superior) notions of Batman, and he is most likely exaggerating his hate of it to counteract all the accusations of bribery and mindless positive geek-related reviews. I've read this site for years and this talkback is definitely one of the most atomic I can remember. I like what Nolan has done so far in this series and will go in to see this with an open mind, but not over inflated expectations. I think that's a problem for too many movie geeks, Harry included. So many things that seem fairly obvious and have been brought up in this talkback about the movie are just not discussed or addressed by Harry. He either can't or won't grow beyond where he has always been in regards to how he sees and "reviews" a movie. In the end, I'll thank Harry for setting this site up and for his passion and dedication to things I also love, such as movies and comics. But after reading "review" after review posted by Mr. H. Knowles, I have to say less is more Harry. You can't construct a lucid, grammatically correct sentence to save your life. The anecdotes you pepper your writings with have long since grown stale and irrelevant to what the fans on this site crave. Thanks, but stick to your videos now and leave the day to day writing to the staff. Post a few "letter from the editor" like articles a year and concentrate on having all the reviews be a bit more professional...spell check and all that jazz.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    "Ath this exact moment" refers to . .

    by Clark Kunt

    . . another failed attempt by Harry at self fellatio. He's not talking about the movie at all.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST

    So Harry didn't like The Dark Knight Rises.

    by hopeless

    I will still have to see it before I judge it. Harry no offence but you have been saying good stuff about shitty movies lately!

  • July 19, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Who cares about what the critics think anyway.

    by Jeff

    Most critics and some people wouldn't know great cinema if it punched them in the face. Why are people so up in arms about these negative The Dark Knight Rises movie reviews? It's one person's opinion about a movie. That's all. What matters is what you think about it. Did you enjoy Batman Begins and The Dark Knight? I for one did. I'm not going to let any critic change my mind about seeing The Dark Knight Rises. Also, in regards to Harry Knowles movie review. This isn't the comic book Batman. This isn't Frank Miller's or anyone else's Batman. This is Christopher Nolan's Batman. Let him tell his own version of Batman. I think that he's done a wonderful job so far. Bottom Line: If you enjoyed Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Like most people did. Go and see The Dark Knight Rises. I know I'm looking forward to it. Don't let anyone (especially movie critics) sway you from seeing it. Besides, who honestly cares about what the critics think anyway. All that matters is what you think about it. Ps. FYI I'm actually a film critic for Southwest Newspapers in MN and even though I might not see eye to eye with everyone. It doesn't matter. Everyone is their own critic.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Fuck you Fatboy Knowles

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

  • July 19, 2012, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Fuck You Fatboy Knowles...and your Slanty Eyed Cunt whore

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

  • July 19, 2012, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Formulate your own opinion

    by Tighxo

    My favorite are the " Well Ill wait to see this then"' " Im not as excited because Harry didnt like it" people. Jeez it's like you are part of some geek hive mind or something, see it and have your own reaction you manchildren.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST

    This review/TB is so wonderful because...

    by Jay

    It displays everything that's wrong with the Internet. I'm sure Harry really does hate this movie for the reasons he states. I believe he's being genuine. Unfortunately, he writes like an infant, and his hate is based more on the film not being what "he" wanted as opposed to what it is. A bit of a fallacy IMO. On top of that, I'm pretty sure the fan-tards here and on IMDB really are this fucking psycho when it comes to negative reviews. On the Internet, a mans "respect" will literally be defined by a comic book movie. had to disable the comment feature due to death threats. Uh huh... And this is only possible on the Internet. If you guys were sitting in a coffee shop saying the same thing, nobody would be sitting in the tables beside you. Police would have been called by now, and the hips of a fatty would've caved in while trying to swing his fist in anger. I can only hope that when I see TDKR on Saturday, that I see a tiny bit of any of this outside the theater.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Bad form, wilford_brimleys_diabetes_rage...

    by Mikey Wood

    ...bad form and POINTLESS.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Nolanites = Bane's henchmen?

    by Liquid Meddle

    Their attempt to scare and silent critics who give this movie negative reviews are hilarious. Who's organizing this?

  • July 19, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST


    by Jared Parker

    i'll reserve my review for after seeing this film. fanboys on this site are crazy. it's like they hate every movie that comes out

  • July 19, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST

    I haven't even seen this movie yet

    by Liquid Meddle

    And I hate it all ready! Come at me, bitches. "I pity da po' fool who don't eat my cereal."

  • But calling his wife a slanty eyed cunt is kinda reaching don'tcha think? Let's try to keep it a lil more civil OKies?

  • July 19, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Wow a pretty direct no nonsense review for a change

    by Avon

    No pussyfooting around and not quite this or that. This is pure: a hate this movie, what a fucking disappointment. But then I remember the questionable rave reviews of certain utter average movies I've seen. Will reserve my own judgement after I see it, and then there's the 87% on Rotten Tomatoes and all that....

  • July 19, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Why are people saying Bruce would not quit being Batman...

    by Buttahface

    When he did for 10 years in the Dark Knight Returns?

  • July 19, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Why are people saying Bruce would not quit being Batman...

    by Buttahface

    When he did for 10 years in the Dark Knight Returns?

  • July 19, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Why are people saying Bruce would not quit being Batman...

    by Buttahface

    When he did for 10 years in the Dark Knight Returns?

  • July 19, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Now I know I will enjoy DKR

    by iluvsyfy

  • July 19, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST

    This TB is going to turn into GOTHAM CITY

    by D.Vader


  • July 19, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Really? No one's pissed about this Robin thing?

    by TheSlapBetCommisioner

    SPOILER [p] SPOILER [p] Does it not irk anyone that Nolan, awesome and talented as he no doubt is, has basically totally given the finger to Batman canon and his trilogy's source material? [p] Why not call Blake, Grayson or at least acknowledge that Blake was a pseudonym given to him when adopte; his family name being Grayson, or Drake or SOMETHING other than...'yeah, so my name is Robin, and that will also by the way, be my Superhero name and guise!! Hoorah!' [p] I get it, Robin's kinda gay or whatever, to some people anyway. It's kinda camp and silly, but why bother including the Easter egg if you think that way? If you do it, do it right, don't just disregard a critical part of the Bat mythos's history or your fans feelings on a character they might well hold dear. [p] The thing that pisses me off is, we only get to see these films done every few years and when they fuck it up, that's it until the next inevitable reboot, prequel, sequel, retcon etc which can take nearly a decade to get through (Raimi's Spider-Man, Nolan's Batman etc). So treat the material right and stop being embarrassed of the source. That's what brought you to the dance.

  • Everyone puts down Nolan's vision of Batman and where its gone, and im pretty sure the douchebags that are saying TDKR sucks said the samething with the TDK and said Ledger's Joker doesnt ? There's critics that look at the source material and then there's critics that only want to see what they feel is worthy. Look at Knowles? Besides making a site where people can rant and bitch and moan about movies and escape from their shitty lives and talk about things no one else will talk to them about in the office or in the car or at the grocery store or in the middle of sex when grandma opens the door to find u standing over the bathroom sink with COMIC in hand jizzin over Elektra or BlackCat. What works for fanboys doesnt work for everyone else and STUDIOS know that. What if ever 3yrs comics completely rebooted for everyone else just getting into comics? That shit would suck! So with a media that was slowly diminishing and is now getting picked up out of the dirt because of successful movie franchises. One movie i can say was pretty much made for fanboys was the Avengers which was OK not that good and Knowles and probably the other TDKR haters loved that movie when JOHN CARTER of FUCKING Mars was way better than that mediocre movie that did so well....and pretty sure that was due to the fact of almost every teen in the world having kids and wanting to go out on date nite with baby daddy but still cant get into a R movie without adult supervision cuz the real parents are at home watching baby and then of course when mommy gets home from the Shiny Pole club has to find it in her schedule to take that screaming kid to the movie so she can go out back and meet up with her meth dealer and it all looks legit cuz she bought a movie ticket and hmm hmm hmm eh my baby wanted to avengers and i took him cuz im mommy of the year nevermind that i have herpies or ghonnerhea that i swear came form a way of subject but anyways Knowles u blow goats and the best thing u did was ur name being used in FANBOYS and that skinnier guy than u from my name is earl playing ur part and kicking the shit out of Jay Baruchel. Will be seeing The Dark Knight Rises tonight, and honestly main reason going tonight is for MAN OF STEEL teaser. So fuck off

  • The Superman shown in Dark Knight Returns is a complete tool. A parody. Actually All-Star Batman and Robin, which was made as a prequel to Dark Knight Returns, is nothing like the mainstream Batman (pre New52). Not even worth mentioning Dark Knight Strikes Again In that respect, it's fine if Nolan's Batman chose to take 8 year off from being Batman. The Batman in these movies is also a distant off-shoot to the "mainstream Batman" that began, ironically enough after Frank Miller's "Batman: Year One."

  • July 19, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Reviewers in general

    by John Fasano

    reminder: They give their OPINION. This is Harry's opinion, and it is not gibberish, it is thoughtful -- it is his reaction to the Nolan Films as a Bat Man fan. I feel the same way. I have never said that BB and TDK were bad movies -- just not Batman movies. You can say Nolan was given free reign to re-interpret the character as he saw fit -- that is also true -- but it doesn't mean I have to like it. Or anyone else. BTW So many posts to this and external review crapping on the "validity" of the reviewer or that they may or may not have been "bought off" by the audio. You know who owns the website Rotten Tomatoes? Time Warner. Therefore is anything they post about a WB film invalid? I don't know who the RT "rating" aggregate became impotent. How? It's listed in newspaper ads! Anyway, I see the trailers, I read about the film in genre magazines, and i decide if I am interested. Reviews are meaningless, unless you ALWAYS agree with a particular reviewer and he matches your taste exactly.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Really? No one's pissed about this Robin thing?

    by TheSlapBetCommisioner

    SPOILER SPOILER Does it not irk anyone that Nolan, awesome and talented as he no doubt is, has basically totally given the finger to Batman canon and his trilogy's source material? Why not call Blake, Grayson or at least acknowledge that Blake was a pseudonym given to him when adopte; his family name being Grayson, or Drake or SOMETHING other than...'yeah, so my name is Robin, and that will also by the way, be my Superhero name and guise!! Hoorah!' I get it, Robin's kinda gay or whatever, to some people anyway. It's kinda camp and silly, but why bother including the Easter egg if you think that way? If you do it, do it right, don't just disregard a critical part of the Bat mythos's history or your fans feelings on a character they might well hold dear. The thing that pisses me off is, we only get to see these films done every few years and when they fuck it up, that's it until the next inevitable reboot, prequel, sequel, retcon etc which can take nearly a decade to get through (Raimi's Spider-Man, Nolan's Batman etc). So treat the material right and stop being embarrassed of the source. That's what brought you to the dance.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Guess not every movie can be "Transformers 3" good huh?

    by thecinemasnob

  • Anyone remember his GL positive review came out not too long after he was flashing a picture of his fat finger with the ring he received in his press kit.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    When he did for 10 years in the Dark Knight Returns?

    by John Fasano

    That was the conceit of that graphic novel. Batman was fuck-old and the laws had turned on him. Nolan has Batman quit literally like a year into being Batman. Someone posted that it would have been cool if he quit being Batman openly but still went out and stopped street crime. That I would buy.

  • -Overall Review- In The Dark Knight Rises Bale does his best work so far as Bruce Wayne/Batman and his fellow cast members (mainly Michael Caine’s Alfred) all rise to meet Bale on this part of Bruce’s journey. Tom Hardy is physically menacing and does as good as he can while having half his face covered. In my opinion his menace comes through the mask with ease. Hathaway’s Selina Kyle/Catwoman is a key cog to the plot of the TDKR. She also has some great scenes throughout the film. I especially like when Catwoman and Batman are debating tactics between the their respective alter ego‘s. Marion Cotilliard’s Miranda Tate was probably the weakest of the cast. But she serves her purpose for the story. Oldman and Freeman are solid as always and Joseph Gordon Levitt as John Blake may (or may not be) the favorite new addition for audiences of Nolan’s final Batman film. At least the 13 year old(ish) kid sitting next to me at the screener thought so. The kid nearly landed in my lap at one point when Blake was doing his thing within the The Dark Knight Rises. There are some characters that mirror each other and do not quite know how to follow through with their motives amongst the chaos that hits Gotham. Everybody is truly shocked and awed from the storm that Bane brings. I liked that. The reflections of Bruce’s journey since Batman Begins is handled sometimes in the script and other times only visually by Nolan and are nice touches. The script also has some fun bits in it that hint at Batman lore (the little that I know). Overall Nolan and Co. put their money on the screen. Every penny. From every Wally Phister shot, every awesome second unit non CGI action set piece and Zimmers’s score come together in epic proportion. I still like Batman Begins as my favorite of the trilogy. But The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises are very solid second and third acts of Nolan’s version of Batman. The Dark Knight probably more so as Ledgers’s Joker is hard to top. But with most sequels usually falling short in general, these did not and I think over time will be regarded as one of the best film trilogies made. I know there will be some dislike (or maybe alot of dislike apparently) for the final chapter in Nolan’s Batman trilogy. Yes there are some editing guffaws (I found the sound mix off at the screening theater I was in) and maybe some missed story opportunities. Plus it seems Nolan's characterizations of Catwoman/Bane/Wayne in TDKR that die hard Batman fans may not like. But with me being someone who does not know the Batman comic universe verbatim so I may not know Batman like a die hard fan would. I only have the Burton films, Batman The Animated Series and Nolan’s films to go off of and since I've enjoyed Nolan's take with,Bale,Caine,Oldman,Ledger,Eckhart,Hardy,Hathaway and Levitt's version of Batman I believe The Dark Knight Rises is a satisfying way to bring THIS particular story of Bruce Wayne full circle. Now off to find some TDKR IMAX tickets… Thanks for your time, Kenchun24 P.S. The Dark Knight Rises Act 1 Spoiler synopsis/review below ********************************************************************************** Exterior - night - Wayne Manor Eight years have passed since Harvey Dent was received as the White Knight of Gotham. The aftermath of Gordon and Batman's cat and mouse game with The Joker has left Gotham relatively safe since then. The rebuilt Wayne Manor is hosting a memoriam for Harvey Dent. While the politicians and eager deputy commissioners plan their spoils during Gotham's "peace time" (as the Dent Act has pretty much imprisoned most of Gotham's crime lords and henchmen alike) as Commissioner Gordon is about to give his speech on Dent, he begins to yet withholds the truth of that night eight years ago. -Insert awesome action set piece of Bane and The Revolution halfway around the world kidnapping Dr. Leonid Pavel at 40,000 feet from some arrogant CIA guys here.- A silhouetted shadow atop Wayne Manor watches Gotham's elite drink champagne and continue to hold grudge against the vigilante (supposedly) responsible for Dent's death...The Batman. The dark shadow atop Wayne Manor is not Batman however, but Bruce Wayne himself. Or a shadow of himself as he has become a more Howard Hughes type recluse billionaire than the billionaire slash crimefighter we all have gotten to know. Alfred (busy directing catering staff in the kitchen) relays specific instructions to one brunette staff member in particular on how to deliver dinner to Bruce's section of the manor. Enter Selina Kyle. Anne Hathaway does a great job in this movie IMO. From her entrances(and exits) her mix of humor/levity/neutrality are a nice addition to all the doom and gloom throughout the film. She does well physically for the role and yes, her butt looks great in the skin tight black "Catwoman" suit. Hathaway's "Catwoman" (I use parenthesis because she is never referred to as Catwoman) also has some issues. She presents herself as a modern day Robin Hood but is mainly paying the price of being a world class jewel thief who is on every CIA/Interpol list from Gotham to Ra's Al Ghul’s burnt fortress in the mountains. Kyle also is on the side of the have-not‘s, but most importantly she wants to clear her name (by way of a "clean your past life on the grid" tech) and has made a deal with some shadow businessmen that are in possession of said "clean slate" tech. This speaks to Selina maybe wanting a different life than the one she has led so far. The businessmen she is dealing with are also rivals to Wayne Enterprises. We find out later these same men have ties to Bane. These business rivals are also trying to put the coffin in Bruce/Lucious quickly falling Wayne Enterprises after their failed attempt in funding, developing and trying to distribute free energy cold fusion reactor(s).Suffice to say Wayne Enterprises is in the red. I'm guessing this all took place during the last eight years while Bruce has been in Howard Hughes mode. Meanwhile Alfred is pleading Bruce to clip his fingernails, get out of his room… I mean…section of Wayne manor, live a little and maybe attempt to save Wayne Enterprises from corporate takeover. Bruce's version of "living a little" of course only points in one direction...the Batman. Bruce decides to start by doing do some detective work on Ms. Kyle after her "visit" with him at the Dent Memoriam. She steals his mother's pearls from Bruce's safe that his father gifted her in Batman Begins. Bruce knows her real focus was to steal his fingerprints, so he starts digging as to why. Kyl...oh screw it, Catwoman is ready to make the deal for the clean slate tech in exchange for Wayne's fingerprints with the shadow businessmen. Of course nothing is what it seems and she quickly realizes the part she played in the grand scheme of things. But the ever resourceful Catwoman also has an ace up her sleeve and this deal gone bad brings Gordon/Deputy Commissioner Foley (Matthew Modine) and beat cop John Blake (an earnest Joseph Gordon-Levitt) into the storm that is coming. Gordon goes in first and as usual he (like Wayne) only feels alive when he is doing his duty as one of Gotham’s protector’s. His verve for police work leads him to Bane, but that same verve nearly gets him killed. The opportunistic Foley probably would not mind if Gordon died (promotion anybody?) but the intelligent and cunning Blake figures things out and rescues Gordon from near death. John Blake is recruited by Gordon to assist with this new case and is promoted to detective. Blake wastes no time as the field arm of the recovering Gordon, giving his natural detective work skills some swift exercise. He visits Bruce and even though Blake and Wayne come from completely different backgrounds, together they find out they have more in common than just an idealistic view on protecting Gotham City. Bruce is now getting back into Batman mode. There is a funny bit with a visit to his doctor as the doc lists in detail how Wayne’s body has broken down over the years. Bruce of course uses this doctor’s visit as a guise to sneak in to the still recovering Commissioner Gordon's hospital room (in Batman Begins first gen style no less) to see if he is okay and get info on who this Bane mercenary is and what he has planned. Bruce then visits Lucious Fox to get up to speed with why and how the cold fusion free energy project has put Wayne Enterprises in the red (also as to why Wayne Foundation has stopped supporting orphanages and other philanthropic causes). Lucious then shares with Bruce the only philanthropist who still believes in the free energy project that has the means and the money to back it. This is Miranda Tate played by Marion Cotilliard. Fox then introduces some new tech for the newly invigorated (albeit broken down) Batman. The new tech isn’t just the Harrier like craft we’ve seen in the trailers, there is some “Batman Beyond” like tech to assist Bruce/Batman on their reunion tour. So with Lucious back on board Bruce/Batman is informed and armed. Time to bring back The Batman…not so fast. Upon meeting with Alfred, he reminds Bruce that Bane is a force that he has not dealt with before. Bruce doesn’t want to hear his best friend, confidant and father figure telling him that Batman “has limits”. Bruce has heard that before and will hear none of it now. Well neither will Alfred. So the stage is set as Bruce Wayne tries to bring back The Dark Knight. But with his allies being very few and with Gotham’s cadre of players being either very green, very broken, very neutral or very menacing The Dark Knight faces his most powerful challenge yet,but does so pretty much alone. *************************************************************************************

  • July 19, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST

    And one more thing...

    by Dranem

    I'm starting not to buy your love of EVERYTHING Harry. New Spiderman movie? You love the character and have every issue. Gree Lantern? Can't get enough of him and will argue for hours over who was the best one. Batman? Oh yeah, been reading that shit for YEARS. My two big passions are Star Wars and comics, but even I don't know or love every damn thing about them. Every time a movie comes out in this genre, there is always some backstory about how engrained you are with the character(s). Its like how Wilt Chamberlain claimed he slept with a million women or whatever, the time it would take just doesn't add up. There just isn't enough time in a day or lifetime to fall in love with the source material of everything on such a personal level to have this type of reaction.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:54 p.m. CST

    You CAN like a shitty movie..

    by Liquid Meddle

    And still not like this final Batman film. There are so many high expectations for it. You can't go comparing Harry's taste in movies to his "profound disappointment" with TDKR. It's bound t disappoint people. I know a lot of people who didn't like the 2nd film and didn't fall into the "Heath Ledger" hype.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I call bullshit on this review

    by darthdurden

    It's just retarded in it's falseness. Brilliant film. Best of the series.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    It's just one person's review

    by Liquid Meddle

    Why call it retarded? Why are so many of you cult-ish morons so bothered by them? The series is over anyway. The negative reviews affect nothing.

  • July 19, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST

    That may be, but...

    by Buttahface

    the 60s tv show Batman was the epitome of tongue in cheek self-parody, and we are as accepting of that Batman's world as any other, even more so because it became ingrained into 60s culture. Batman has been deconstructed and reconstructed so many times that within even the mainstream story lines it's pretty difficult to say what it canon and what is not, aside from his parent's death. I think because the character is so transcendent that it lends itself to many permutations, i.e. medieval Batman, steampunk Batman, futuristic Batman, etc.

  • i was starting to get excited about this movie after all the glowing reviews and i was getting worried about being let down unlike Harry, Batman is cool, but not important enough to me to get angry about, so, i expect that i'll have a fun time tonight

  • July 19, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    I'm a movie fan


    I have never read a comic in my life. I like superhero movies, although now they are a bit played out. I always cringe when I hear comic fans whining about how they wanted the movie to be like. Who gives a shit, they are two different mediums. The filmmakers don't have to cater to your every nerdy whim. Also, Harry fell asleep during Inception. I'm sure this movie will be great, haha.

  • he kind of had robin written all over him in the trailers

  • July 19, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Seal of Approval - anything Harry does not like.

    by coolhanddave

    I was nervous. I was hoping not to see a positive review from Harry. Now I know its a watchable, enjoyable film.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Fat people hate Chris Nolan

    by ben

  • July 19, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST


    by Lucky13

    Someone on this site realizes that Nolan sacrifices too much fun/imagination/entertainment for the sake of 'reality'. TDK was boring and dull, save for Ledger's great performance. BB actually had some fun due to the horror elements brought about by the Scarecrow's hallucinogens. I'm interested in seeing DKR, but skimming Harry's review just describes exactly what I was expecting... dull, drab and without enough spectacle.

  • Calling someone slanty eyed...that'll get your ass beat in real life, just so you know. Some of us here happen to have asian girlfriends are ARE asian, so watch your fucking language.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Whiney Boy Harry

    by Jon

    This sounds like a review from a spoiled child who didn't get the right colored playstation under the christmas tree. Seriosuly the entire review sounds like you were disappointed that it wasn't a comic book. This is Nolans Batman, just like Adam West Batman was it's own thing and Burton's after that. Nolan created something different that will stand above the typical comic book tropes. This isn't a review, it's a bitch fest from a spoiled fanboy.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST

    I want a slanty-eyed girlfriend too


  • July 19, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST

    The "Too Many Positive Review" Pressure

    by michael

    Harry, all due respect, but maybe you are feeling a little review remorse after the Amazing Spiderman, which had some very real flaws that you seemed to turn a blind eye to. Don't take it out on DKR. Bruce didn't stop becoming Batman because of Rachel. That was a factor, but the real reason is because he felt he was bringing down Gotham by inspiring madmen like the Joker, while Harvey Dent inspired Gothamites to be better. The clean streets and Rachel were just added reasons. Batman saw the toll his presence took on Gotham and didn't like it. And Alfred's inner struggle about whether he's helping Bruce by aiding his insane mission has always been in the comics. This is the logical conclusion of watching someone destroy themselves for years. In the more realistic Nolan-verse, I believe it. DKR was not as good as Dark Knight. But still a great movie and satisfying conclusion. It definitely could have used a bit more humor... but all in all the most compelling superhero movie of the year.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Just try to keep this in mind

    by Steve Lamarre

    We've come a looong way (sort of).

  • July 19, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST

    as for harry's words to the rep...

    by Detached

    ... good for him. i went to a free advance screening of a major movie (which i will not name) several years ago, and it wasn't even worth free. i was so furious afterward i came home and literally paced around in sheer anger. it was that insulting. it's a darn good thing i didn't talk to the marketing/studio rep afterward, or i might have gone absolutely ballistic on him/her. i was probably red-faced with rage. so good for harry. if he liked it, tell the rep. if not, tell the rep. big deal.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Having seen the movie, I Disagree

    by Stuart-Renton

    I felt that aside from some major story issues, the movie was decent enough. I'm not a Batman fan and I don't know the backstory, but the characters were all decent and aside from the utterly pointless Talia reveal at the end, it all seemed to close the trilogy fairly nicely. I think this review is unreasonably cruel. The movie's hardly a travesty; it's never going to be more than what it was: a superhero movie. And in that line, it served its purpose really well. Sure, Bane was reduced to little more than a bit part and the whole movie falls apart if you think about it too much. It relied in contrivance way too much... but in general, it was a well made and fun movie that will thrill Batman fans everywhere.

  • but as much of a logical fallacy as it is to cite past examples of completely unrelated, but generally observed as horrible, movies in order to support one's position... that Harry loved The Phantom Menace and liked Green Lantern but hated this...really calls his taste into question. However...Harry like anyone is entitled to his opinions. I just think opinion of what SHOULD be and actually evaluating the film in a non-objective fashion are two different things.

  • July 19, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Bye AICN - You have no credibility anymore

    by trojanwilliams

    Let's see. Harry's last 3 uber-positive reviews (where he uses the word Love) at least once were: Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter Prometheus and; Snow White and the Huntsman Clearly there's nothing left for me at this site. Too bad Harry actually stood for something once. I won't be back...

  • July 19, 2012, 5 p.m. CST

    I think ALL reviews of this movie should be negative

    by Liquid Meddle

    Even if it's good, because hey, this is entertaining! These Batman fans are even weirder than Twihards.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST


    by Paul Paradis

    I just think Nolan didn't give enough free gifts, or kiss Harry's ass enough.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:03 p.m. CST

    And yet you liked Green Lantern right Harry?

    by ChickenStu

    what happened? No freebie from the Nolan camp? No invite to the premiere? Yeah yeah, of course you hate it.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:03 p.m. CST

    scottpilgrimfan wants the talentless Edgar Wright as the reboot director...


  • July 19, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    ...with Josh Hartnett/Orlando Bloom/Timberlake as Batman, no doubt...


  • July 19, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Thing is, even good reviews aren't good enough for Nolanites

    by Liquid Meddle

  • July 19, 2012, 5:09 p.m. CST

    by flashfast777

    Fanboy reviews are almost always useless.

  • He hates the whole genre. I'm glad he's moving on. I'm the only one that was bored with TDK. Batman Begins was the best Batman movie.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    An absolute clusterfuck of a movie.

    by Volllllume3

    I don't know how he did it, but Spider-Man 3 might actually even be better then this travesty. Nolan has been CRUSHED under the massive weight of his own bloated ego.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:18 p.m. CST

    But is it as good as THIS????

    by Daniel Caputi How could it be?

  • July 19, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST

    But is it as good as THIS????

    by Daniel Caputi How could it be?

  • This is what some of us have been saying for years! Nolan only made Batman "realistic" because he hate comicbook characters! Nolan-fans who "TRUST IN NOLAN ONLY" are too blind to see whats been in their faces for years!

  • July 19, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST

    I saw it Tues in San Diego. Harry is an idiot.

    by Jim McArthur

    Harry, I'm sorry bro... but I gotta step in here. WTF is wrong with you? Your taste in movies is just hilarious. You love crap. LOVE it. TDKR is a really great film. Sure, some of the stuff you pointed out is real (i.e. the cops looking too good when they emerge) - but it doesn't outweigh the brilliance of the movie. Heath is dead, dude. Move on. Nolan did... and he smashed it. Look man, I'm still going to read your reviews but only for entertainment. I no longer have any place for your analysis in my life. For all you talkbackers... ignore Harry. Go see it and go in expecting to love it. I did and I did.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST

    The trailers told us this would suck!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Hell I remember the excuses back. "Oh, its only the trailer, Nolan will have plenty of time to clean it up". Only Nolan doesn't give a shit! Shame some fans are finally waking up and resisting whats truly in front of them!

  • July 19, 2012, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Arkham Asylum easily better than TDKR! As soon as Hathaway was cast...

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    we knew Nolan didn't give a shit about this finale. He wanted to be done with it. Oh well.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST

    This whole review reminds me of a friend I once had.......

    by david starling

    .......A big summer blockbuster came out, that everyone went to see, and I thought I knew that he wouldn't see it. I was surprized when he turned around and stated quite snottily "no, I'll see it. I'll hate it, but its my right to see how crap it is, and how much I'll hate it". Which sums-up quite nicely this review. I don't think Harry really wanted to see this - he went-on earlier this year about how one-note Batman is, and how inferior it is to other comic-book characters - and yet here he is calling the film bullshit in the face of what he supposedly knows of Batman, like he's loved Batman all his life!! And no, ragging-on about previous generations does not count at all. Its confusing at least, and hypocrisy at worst. Yes, Harry is entitled to state what he wants - but he didn't want to watch this, didn't want to sit down and view it - he wanted to pick it to pieces and make an example of it. So he was in a foul mood? Why didn't he have a drink instead, and do something different for the evening? Its a bad review - it tops trouncing Ocean's 11 in the face of the excerable 3000 Miles to Graceland. Sorry Harry. Pick up on this all you want. All I read here is petulance and a childish desire to be the same as some of the worst talkbackers. And in a way, I see some of that arrogance with which you villified Schumacher all those years ago (1997 I believe) - that which I believe (if I read your book right), you felt guilty for. Its a bad review - it tops trouncing Ocean's 11 in the face of the excerable 3000 Miles to Graceland, and perhaps it highlights how I feel: I really don't care for the movie anymore, and I haven't even seen it yet. But its not your harsh words that put me off; its reading between the lines and picking up the shallow tones and whining. Shameful.

  • cant consider this movie as one different interpretation more of the character joining the thousands that have been before in the comics, elseworlds included... Anyway, nobody trust you anymore since you uttered the words "The Phantom Menace is a masterpiece".

  • July 19, 2012, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Harry is profoundly disappointed with his tiny dick

    by edwardpenishands

    ann why he can't find it.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:36 p.m. CST

    So it's less good than Inception?

    by theplant

    Inception was great. Dark Knight sucked but Heat Ledger James Dean aura made the initial viewing work.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Aside from me disagreeing with your review...

    by boardbrtn

    Look, I saw this movie this morning, and anyone worried by what Harry's saying need not worry. It's a great movie, just not as great as TDK. As for the review, I get less of a review vibe and more of an angry fan-boy rant. I understand that this site caters to that audience, but still have some decency and write a review that makes me want to scroll through the damn thing.

  • July 19, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST

    re: See it again for Man Of Steel trailer?

    by David

    Why anticipate a trailer for another Nolan product after shitting all over TDKR? Makes no sense

  • July 19, 2012, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Harry hated T4, which also wasn't that bad

    by theplant

    Just a blah movie

  • July 19, 2012, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Hence why The Dark Knight is a Batman movie dressed up like Heat.

    by The Krypton Kid

  • July 19, 2012, 5:55 p.m. CST

    the krypton kid is correct

    by walt

  • He hung up his cowl because he allowed Batman to take the fall for Harvey Dent's crimes, and make Dent's death seem an act of martyrdom. This was an act that Commissioner Gordon is complicit in.</p> </p> Batman had to go away because he had become a villain, hated by Gotham, so that Harvey Dent would be remembered as a hero and the Dent Act could be passed - thus ushering the era of peace that precedes the start if the film.</p> </p> Look, I really liked the film - and acknowledge that it has some significant flaws - but you seem to have based a large part of your disdain on an absolutely wrong interpretation of what happened in the film.

  • July 19, 2012, 6 p.m. CST

    I've never taken any of Harry's reviews seriously

    by Nurman Vistosky

    He's nothing but a geek with an outlet. Nothing more. Not a critic. Never. If he were anything more than a fanboy with a megaphone, maybe we would have had a better "John Carter" movie to watch. But he failed at that, too. Long live the failure.

  • July 19, 2012, 6 p.m. CST


    by Captain-Death

    'Oh, and those of you saying we should all love every piece of media shoved in our faces because we are so privileged to have big budget movies to see, you people are the types that not only contribute to the erosion of true artistic expression in a rampantly runaway capitalist megacorp society, but eventually help pave the way for dictatorships and genocides. '<p> Scary, isn't it?

  • Scared as shit that I will not enjoy the movie I have been waiting for since Dark Knight....

  • July 19, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Why is Harry bashing TDKR so much? One word... Power.

    by Jake Pantlin

    Harry became legend for giving 'Batman and Robin' a bad review, which some people have said helped sink that film. Personally, I think that film sank because EVERY critic hated it, but AICN still gets credited for the first bad review posted online. I have no doubt that Harry loves his place in history for that little review, and now, he is looking for the feeling again. Harry was too lazy to even stay awake during his review of Inception (a film loved by almost everyone), and gave it a bad review. Hell, you can't even call it a review. It was an embarrassment to professional critics as a whole. To anyone with a brain, it is pretty obvious that Harry doesn't like Nolan's films. They challenge audiences, and Harry doesn't like to be challenged. He was slammed for his lazy review for Inception, and this seems like a way of him justifying (or getting revenge for) his half-assed review, while getting off on the idea of sinking another Batman film. The sad thing is, it isn't going to work this time. Top critics are praising this as one of the best movies of the year. If Harry can't separate one medium (comics) from another (film), then he needs to grow the hell up. He also needs to start reading more Batman comics, because he is talking out of his ass when he claims that he understands the 'real' Batman.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    happyfat73, excellent points

    by Simpsonian

    so the question becomes did Harry "misinterpret" this on purpose--just looking for something to get angry about? or is he just a retard?

  • July 19, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST

    I wonder how Harry will review The Expendables II

    by Bruce of all Trades

    It's like having sex with the three-breasted hooker from Total Recall

  • July 19, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Harry...your problem is this [the major problem YOU have with everything]:

    by Bob Cryptonight

    You think that YOU know what is true and what is supposed to happen and WHO a character is. But, come fucked up with John Carter and sooo much other stuff...when do you turn tail and slink back to the [Knowles] Ackermansion and just SHUT THE FUCK UP???? God, you have been WRONG so much on YOUR OWN website. The Emperor had NO clothes.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST

    harry has no credibility

    by MrSTK

    this is the same guy who loved John Carter and Green Lanter, which both were absolutely awful. any movie or director that communicates with him or gives him access or sends him stuff, he blow them up considerably. nolan could give a shit. i still cant wait to see it.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:33 p.m. CST

    hoorayforeric - High 5 is nice!

    by Kakii

    Cool man, If I worked on a college campus I'd be like a dog with 2 dicks! However, Im pretty sure you could get chicks to see the Avengers!

  • Which makes your point moot. I have a revolutionary concept for you that maybe haven't occurred yet: Critics are been harsh on this film because it is a disappointment. Groundbreaking concept, isn't it?

  • July 19, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST

    I call this article "bullshit"

    by ne32

    1st- you need someone to clearly define to you what a "superhero" is. 2nd- you wanted "super jacked" bane in a Nolan film. Were you watching all the trailers to this movie and thinking that Nolan is gonna juice him up at some point? 3rd - Was it so clearly defined that Blake is Robin? No. If you ask me what that means, then I beg you to go read some comic books. 5th - You tell people to go play Arkham Asylum and watch the Animated Series without acknowledging that they are different takes on the Batman universe. Ahem, maybe the Nolan films would be in there to. 6th - You say that Batman is much more than this particular film. Really? I thought this film was the only thing I needed to watch in order to understand Batman. 7th - You shit on this movie so bad and still say its not an embarrassing chapter. I'm confused. Or, I wonder if you were just one of those fans waiting to smack talk every little detail about this film. It's ok dude, I love the Dark Knight too.

  • What is to say of a review if the reviewer's facts are off? Hary, get a grip please, and if you're going to hate, at least get your facts right, otherwise you loose cred.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    @the krypton kid Quoted for the truth.

    by Jack

    And that's why The Avengers is so fucking brilliant. As Joss Whedon brilliantly put it: "I don't believe in transcending the genre, I believe IN the genre".

  • July 19, 2012, 6:42 p.m. CST

    wilford_brimleys_diabetes_rage your a fucking nonce!

    by Kakii

    Disagree with Harry call him what ever, but resorting to racist slurs when you dont even fucking know her is the fooking work of a kiddy fiddling, inbred, brain dead cunting nonce! Fucking well out of order, you need to be taken down a dark alley and have the living shit kicked out off you!

  • July 19, 2012, 6:42 p.m. CST


    by FrodoFraggins

  • July 19, 2012, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Seeing this headline on AICN today made me deeply sad...

    by I_Fart_Huckabees

    Harry is my geek barometer and I tend to agree with his assessments. So imagine when i go to my favorite site the day before the biggest geek picture of the summer and i see that even Harry was deeply disappointed. When i saw spider-man 3 it nearly shattered my feeble geek heart. I can't conceive of a world where the same thing happens with the 3rd nolan batman. I hold out hope until i see it for myself. I will watch it with a super open mind.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Nice writeup

    by nametaken

  • Sometimes I think you dislike some movies just so it doesnt seem like you "love" everything you see - which you almost invariably do. More power to you if you can enjoy tripe like Green Lantern...but to love that and hate this...just saying. Examine that logic for a moment.

  • July 19, 2012, 6:56 p.m. CST

    I didn't read most of the spoilers

    by brobdingnag

    but if Harry hates a superhero film this much it must REALLY suck balls. He usually eats up any horseshit based on comics.

  • had and has ever existed since. We still don't have a superman movie as good or a superhero movie with a fight as ambitious as the burly brawl. So fuck the hell off the lot o you

  • July 19, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST

    You there! Yes you!! Fuck the hell off! Riight! As you were.

    by UltraTron

  • I wouldn't be surprised, once TDKR kicks ass and takes names, to see a revised Harry take on the "philosophy" of a "not that bad after all" movie.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Harry Loathes It? It must mean it's AMAZING!!!

    by ThisBethesdaSea

    Can't wait until tomorrow!

  • Son of Harry Knowles becomes obsessed with the idea of striking fear into the hearts of criminals, later dons a cape and cowl and prowls the city at night looking for doughnut shops in need of saving (and customers). Ironic, that'd be. How Batmen are made.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises Shits All Over The Avengers.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    And I suppose that's why everyone connected to AICN hates TDKR.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST

    pretty funny reading the attacks on harry...

    by Detached

    ... i mean, seriously. i don't agree with him many times eithier- but WOW, instead of just taking on his points about the film (which i have when i've both agreed & disagreed with him), we get insults, attacks, etc. yeah, that proves he's wrong about the movie. oh, and btw, he clearly loved the dark knight. i guess he's wrong about that too, right? so which is it? i'm sorry, but nolan keeps making the same bat-movie over and over. as one previous poster said, i could tell from the trailer i'd already see this film (twice, actually). and PUH-LEEZE, let's drop this "realistic" crap. those movies aren't realistic (the absolutely gargantuan plot holes aside). they have elements of realism, but that's as far as you can go.

  • And Nolanites wonder why they have a bad rep. This film suffers not only of not finding the kind of critical praise that their delusions were expecting - bigger hit among criticss than The Avengers and TDK, best picture indications and etc - it also suffers from the extreme bad rep their fans get. No one wants to go to the movies to sit next to the weirdos that make death threats over a negative review. Nolanites - not Batfans because I am one as well and I'm already done with this film - are the worst thing that ever happened to the superhero genre fandom. The sooner they are gone, the better.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST

    I don't care that he didn't like it...

    by eldeejo

    My problem is he acted like a 5 year old and spoiled the ending. WAH WAH I didn't like it so hear is what happens so no one go see it. Its pathetic. I'm no hardcore Nolan fan, I actually preferred Avengers, but TDKR is a great, epic emotional movie.

  • I mean I dont agree with him at all but damn some people sure get mad - I'll bet there ARE fans rabid enough to actually attack a critic over a review.

  • And even a fucking lot of spaces before talking about. Stop crying like he has personally offended you. If you don't want to read spoilers, just don't read them.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Thank You Harry...

    by pr0g2west

    for speaking your mind. Im still gonna go see this, but for what its worth it's nice to see a bad review. I thought everybody and their mothers were going to love this movie just like The Dark Knight. Looks like Nolan is fallible afterall.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Bane was never South American

    by Immortal_Fish

    The Caribbean is not in South America. And Hawaii is not in Asia.

  • July 19, 2012, 7:52 p.m. CST

    @jacksparrow, the thing about the nolanites' bad rep is...

    by Detached

    ... the EARNED it the old-fashioned way- by acting like foaming at the mouth idiots. Or maybe they're not acting. Give me a break. Can't they handle the fact that some people just don't and won't like this Bat-film or either of the previous ones? I guess it's obvious that they can't. They might be an interesting study in mass psychology someday...

  • July 19, 2012, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Wow Harry

    by faux1975

    I love your passion for movies in general, but man do you and I differ on what makes a movie great, regardless of the source material. TDKR is a fantastic action/adventure film, period. As for it lining up with the comic book mythology of Batman, it strictly depends on style of the director. This is Nolan's 3rd Batman so shame on you for not going into this expecting something else. In my opinion, this is to Return of the Jedi as TDK was to Empire Strikes Back with the difference being that TDKR is better than Jedi. For anyone to call this an average or below average film either has an agenda or had their own preconceived notion of how they wanted this to end and because it didn't lineup with that very notion, you end up hating it. I so much wanted to love Prometheus but at the end of the day, it was an average film. Not bad but not great either yet you tried so hard to convince the masses that it was indeed on the same level as Alien and Aliens. Simply, you cannot be trusted as a reliable reviewer of film in general. Same goes for your buddy, Devin Farraci. The guy is a certified moron and completely unlikable due to his inferiority complex. At least you can make fun of yourself at times and overall, likeable. Anyway, TDKR is a great film and very much on the same level as the Avengers if you want to compare.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:12 p.m. CST


    by funkylovemonkey

    Harry hates it, Moriarty/Drew McWeeny loves it. A sure sign that I'm going to love this movie! I always find it amazing how consistently I disagree with Harry.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST

    I equate TDKR with

    by vladvampire

    JJ Abrams Star Drek. You take an established property with a long, rich history, ignore it completely just because you can and call it a masterpiece. TDKR is a piece alright...with chunks of corn. There is so much more to Batman and the whole mythos surrounding it that could have and should have been explored. Bane's death and who killed him? Come on, this is a Batman movie. True, Batman isn't supposed to kill, but if you know his history, he has killed a few times Pre-Crisis, and thought to himself, well, it's wrong, but it is better it came out that way. Waste of Talia...more of a set dressing and a convenient propping of the plot holes. Blake suddenly is Robin? Yeah, that's as believable as Kirk suddenly being handed a starship command right out of the academy. Convenient plot scooting. Bruce Wayne has disappeared many times in the past in the comics, but his estate was never divvied up...and if it was, he had Dick, Tim or even Damien to give it to, not some complete stranger with delusions of Nightwing....err Robin. Alfred leaving? Batman weeping, moping over lost love and giving up? His losses always gave him resolve to step up his game. Alfred would rather die than to give up and leave Bruce Wayne. Alfred is Wayne's Jiminy Cricket! So sad that Nolan crapped out this turd and thumbed his nose, flipped his bird and tea-bagged those who have been Batman fans throughout the Burton promise and ultimate letdown, through the Schumacher campy turdfest with nipples...Nolan gave so much hope with his take only to piss on the people who rallied to his vision and now have piss in their eyes as a thank you.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:23 p.m. CST


    by FlyingToupee

  • July 19, 2012, 8:27 p.m. CST

    According to this series, Bruce is Bats for only two to

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    three years. Weird.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST


    by FlyingToupee

    Did you read Richard Roeper's review? Or the NY Times? Or Peter Travers? Or Richard Corliss? You randomly pick CNN, which isn't exactly known for their movie reviewing prowess. Oh, and about the fanboy death threat. Yes, it was despicable. But I have to be honest. The only person I ever saw writing fanboy gobbledygook on the internet who I believed was capable of a death threat is you. You have been off the charts with your hysterical vendetta against Nolan and TDKR, because you won't feel vindicated in life if THE AVENGERS isn't held in a higher regard than a fucking Batman movie. And you've been banned from several internet fansites because of the way you froth at the mouth at the concept that there could be a chance that TDKR does well at the boxoffice, or is compared favorably to the Marvel movies. Get a life, loser.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Oh, come on, Harry has the right to be dissapointed in TDKR

    by antonphd

    I agree with him about Inception. It was a film that never really quite lifted up off the ground for me either. For a movie about infinite possibilities in dreams, that was a bit of a let down. I haven't seen TDKR and Harry's review isn't going to stop me (or anyone else) from seeing it, so, all of the little geeks who are wringing their hands over Harry's review can just chill the fuck out. Harry LOVED John Carter (as did I) and that movie still bombed in the US. Harry doesn't have box office power the way Roger Ebert does.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Bad Warner Brothers

    by Michael Payton

    Don't they know by now if they want a good review they need to send Harry his normal gift basket of backstage passes to the filming, gold watch and three hookers. Otherwise he'll "Aquafag" their movie like this.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:34 p.m. CST

    My only problem with Harry's review

    by richievanderlow

    If one doesn't like it, they don't like it.. but there are two thoughts I have on why he's so profoundly disappointed. 1. His preconceived notions about Bruce Wayne. They're specific and a little nitpicky in my opinion. This Bruce Wayne he describes above is exactly what has been set up by the first two movies. Having the expectation of Bruce Wayne that he has seems like Harry's bringing some baggage that he can't get past. That's ashame. 2. I get the impression that Harry wants a more faithful adaptation of the source material to truly embrace Nolan's Batman. He goes crazy over the fun but ridiculous Avengers (which I liked, but it's little more than a great summer escapist action/sci-fi flick). I think Harry's preference here would be for the filmmakers to take a different approach, than the more realistic turn Nolan has taken here. 3. I've never thought Harry much cared for Nolan as a writer/director. Certainly he doesn't hate him, but his filmmaking 'style' is not something that Harry loves, based on past reviews of other Nolan movies. So Harry not liking this movie doesn't seem like much of a shock. I suppose I'm a little surprised he disliked it so much, but now that I've read the non-spoiler part of the review, and where he's coming from in his dislike of it, I think his preconceived notions of the characters seem to have let him down. Kind of surprising given the marketing of this film, which made a lot of that quite clear going in. I see quite a few of the Batman & Nolan fans loving this movie, and that makes me think I'm going to like it just fine. I hope so.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Saw it today courtesy of Citrix, it's ok but nothing special.

    by Smartacus

    I'm going to type some spoilers - BEWARE. Harry isn't that far off really. There's something wrong with this one. I don't think it's enough to kill it but you can definitely see that Nolan & Bale are losing a step where Batman is concerned. I think they're tired of making these and it shows a little. As for the story, it's kind of shit. I'm sorry but that's just true. Lots of wasted opportunities here with multiple characters, many of whom do not in any way act in character at times. Bruce has a night of "Sweet love" with a woman who he's shown no previous interest in whatsoever but who turns out to be Talia. At the moment he utterly destroys Bane she reveals her betrayal and whips out a detonator while sticking a knife between his ribs. His reaction? He goes fucking fetal like he just learned that Alfred really killed his parents. Then he sits there and listens to minutes of her explaining EVERYTHING while she puts Bane's respirator back together and waves the detonator in front of his face. Does he snap her wrist? Punch her in the face? Even attempt to take it away from her? It detonates a nuke AND HE KNOWS IT but he sits there gobsmacked while another bad guy wraps a rope around his neck slowly. It's very much like Spider-Man at the end being saved by The Lizard from falling off a building.... that he could at any time just turn around and stick to except that he's forgotten momentarily that he's spider-man. It's going to make a mountain of money and people who love Nolan's take on Batman will forgive it most of its sins but this isn't the crown jewel of the series. It's the skid mark at the end. Avengers would have been this bad had Whedon not stuck the last 45 minutes and kept wallowing around looking for something to grab your attention. It didn't. Nolan never sticks anything. He starts off better than Whedon did but he never really gets any better. There's no moment where you feel like you're grateful that you got to see this. It just keeps going more or less alright until it stops and you make that run to the bathroom you've been putting off.

  • July 19, 2012, 8:55 p.m. CST

    It's just the lack of consistency from Harry that is most infuriating

    by DougMcKenzie

    It never needs to be mentioned, it's always there, most are smart enough to discount it.....

  • The first Batman movie Nolan did Harry loved it and talked about how much better it was than Burton's Batman. But since Nolan doesn't communicate with aicn, Harry has vendetta against his movies.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Nolan is the most overrated director in the biz...

    by Ricky Retardo

    Overblown crapolla is his specialty. More is not necessarily better. Sometimes less is more. He took all the fun out of Batman. Batman is a comic book character. Realism is not what super-heroes are about. His Batman films even fail at that. I never believed the "reality" of his Batman films. Films filled with cliche-ridden dialog and caricatures of "real" people. Better start worrying about what he has done to Superman. Will the new Superman film be a depressing, dark, overlong borefest? From all advanced info the answer will be yes.

  • You take a joke on the reaction people have to Harry's reviews ("Harry beaten to death after unfavorable movie review" headline) and perceive from that a death threat. Go play in traffic, you fucking twatburgers.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Harry, You don't know Batman like you say

    by Tanning Chatum

    It's true that Nolan does not get Batman, but that is just as apparent in TDK as this final installment. If you like TDK but dislike TDKR because this version of Batman is not true to the character, then you are a hypocrite. Batman is a Detective, does not kill, is tactical, doesn't rely on technology, and would not quit for the love of a girl. All of those things were in TDK, and made the character not Batman. Batman is equally not Batman in both films. If you like one and not the other fine, but don't say it's because this Batman is not true to the character when it never was.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:46 p.m. CST

    nerd bubbleworld

    by raptorman

  • July 19, 2012, 9:48 p.m. CST


    by Queefer Sutherland

    Of all the DKR reviews on this site, I came to this one, because I knew you'd have the most pissed-off and most entertaining people. First off, I wonder how many people here who are trashing you have even seen the film. Second off, you are completely right when you say that Nolan doesn't really understand Batman. The psychology is all wrong. Third off, I can't wait for somebody else's interpretation of the Batman, but only if they make it more intimate, instead of trying to produce some grand spectacle. Now, I haven't seen the movie yet. Even if I really like it, I'll still feel the same way. I want a smaller, grittier, more Batman-esque film, and Nolan is not the man to do it. However, after reading a number of reviews of this movie, I am lowering my expectations A LOT! But I won't see it for another week or two, because I want the crowds to die down. I really don't want to share a theater with a bunch of rabid, drooling Nolanites who think the man can do no wrong. Christopher Nolan is very talented, but his movies are terribly flawed. He just can't quite live up to the complexity with which he imbues every film. I never thought the other two were perfect, not by a long shot. I think they seemed better because I never liked the Burton and Schumacher versions. But there were a lot of things about them I didn't like. Still, the imperfections didn't overshadow the good things. I wonder about this new one... Oh well. We'll see. Thanks for the warning. I'll now go to the film with less enthusiasm, but that can't hurt. It might just make me enjoy it a little bit more.

  • July 19, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST

    The Alfred thing (spoiler)

    by Funis4assholes

    His leaving Bruce was justified in the plot. Did you have the same feelings when Sam left Frodo in Return Of The King? Because that WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. And you all loved that shit anyway.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by John Fasano

    Those who think that the Nolan-ites haven't lost their minds, here in LA that lined up at 7am to see the whole trilogy -- and when interviewed by the news this guy says -- "it's the last film, it's Christian bale -- it's like God." Well, ma'am there's only one god and he doesn't dress in rubber abdominals.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:24 p.m. CST

    maxcherry: The problem is...

    by Ricky Retardo

    Nolan's realism is badly done. It would have been great if Batman was done like a film noir crime film from the 40's or 50's. Batman the detective dealing with a mystery and master criminals. Nolan's Batman films are filled with unreal, ridiculous scenes and events. A school bus crashes into a midtown city banks in broad daylight and no one on the busy street cares. How can the Joker crash a bus into a bank and leave without emergency services and police not noticing? If you saw a school bus crash into a bank in midtown Manhattan, you would rush over to it to see if kids were onboard and injured.

  • It's like everyone is in on the joke except him...

  • 1 hour before my movie starts help!!!!!!

  • July 19, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Is Harry an orangutan?

    by DukeTogo84


  • July 19, 2012, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Learn how to write an actual review Harry.

    by Kevin D

    While you make some valid points, your review looks like it was written by a 3rd grader.

  • Take a couple night courses Harry, seriously.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:47 p.m. CST


    by Jack

    Fight scenes were atrocious. The complaints about them in the first two films made NO sense. In this one people are praising it, and its terrible. All are POV shots from behind the characters, and you can CLEARLY see the coreography of people acting like they were hit virtually before the punch even lands. The worst one is in the 1st showdown between Bane and Bats, when Bane does his spin punch downwards and Batman's head is moving down like he got hit, before it even lands. I don't know if it was my IMAX print last night but a) the film was dirty as hell (probably because no one knows how to take care of it given everything is digital now and theatres don't need experienced film operators) and b) the score literally drowned out almost entire scenes and lines of dialogue. I didn't hear the entire scene because of the score when Robin Blake is arguing with Gordon about the cover up. And I didn't hear a word Robin said to the cop on the bridge when he blows it up in front of him. PS I thought Nolan hated the idea of Robin, like Burton? Then forces him in the film in a very cheesy way. I never had a problem with Batman's voice in the two other films. But suddenly in this one it finally got to the point I was laughing.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:51 p.m. CST

    It's a Bat wreck

    by Mark

    I saw the Dark Night Rises yesterday where I live in Asia. This review is actually kind. I have enjoyed almost all the other genre movies including the Dark night films, but this movie is poorly made, acted, and most of all written. I literally started looking for the exit before the finale, but figured if I could sit through Battlefield Earth then I can make it to the end of this crappy movie. The finale had me shaking my head from ridiculous scene to wtf didn't they watch this before putting it out scene. I feel bad for the many people who are about to be disappointed by this movie.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST


    by Queefer Sutherland

    There's a trailer of you frantically writing on your smartphone, begging for people to tell you what you're about to see.

  • July 19, 2012, 10:56 p.m. CST


    by Queefer Sutherland

    It also sounds like you should enjoy those trailers, because they're the best part of your night.


  • July 19, 2012, 11:16 p.m. CST


    by Tighxo

    at some of the sheer joy some of you get in hating on and nitpicking everything, geeks are some of the most un fucking grateful bunch. My god some of the vitriol here is unbelievable, people seemingly getting off on hyperbole " IT"S A WRECK NOLAN IS A HACK RABBLE RABBLE THANK YOU HARRY!!!!" etc. etc. Go outside and take a breath, get laid, something.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Who care!!!

    by Jake

    I never post, but just reading other people's post is very entertaining. Who cares what one person thinks. If you like something, good for you. If you don't, that's your opinions. This goes out to 99% percent of you on here, don't be stupid and move on.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Respect your movie opinion and...but..

    by cw

    ..the name calling and outright cruelty towards you is off the charts uncalled for, especially towards your wife. You should be able to right how your feel without it getting this personal. What I will slam you for it even thinking that people who like this movie don't know the character. For the most part everything that happens in the movie happened in the comics. The things you call "bullshit" would have merit if they in fact weren't true to the history of the character..but they are. The "Robin" reveal sounds weak I'll grant you that and the incorporation of the Ra's family and story is forced but turns the story full circle..may not be great but it is complete. The greatest travesty to the Batman character was was placing him in the Justice League. Batman is a loner, who more often than not pushes people away so they won't get caught up in fighting "his" war. Taking him from protecting his city and striking fear into the evils that created working along side other, more powerful, "freaks" who are just turning him off course from his mission. Everyone wants a reboot so we can get a Batman who will kick ass in Gotham and then be encased in a green bubble and flown by Green Lantern to some off world base to fight crime and save the galaxy...really?? I'm not saying these movies are the greatest thing ever Harry, but the only thing different between these movies Batman and the comic Batman is the length of time that he actually was Batman. So lets hurry up and get that new guy in the suit so we can get this JLA thing going to see some Darkseid ass kickin Batman.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:23 p.m. CST

    I vote natalieportmansyummyafterbirth as the most ignorant troll!

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Does anybody second that?

  • July 19, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST

    2nd more ignorant troll. Harry is first.

    by Nick

  • July 19, 2012, 11:26 p.m. CST

    I almost always disagree with Harry...

    by Eli_Cash

    ...and I probly will in this case too. But this is a well reasoned review, grammatical and spelling errors aside. He clearly pointed out his problems with the movie and how it deviated from what he expected. I'd like to see more reviews like this from Harry.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Absolutely second that, Queefer.

    by MiggsFacial

  • No offense Harry but I thought your 2011 THING review was off though with good points. ;)

  • July 19, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Nolan's Batman sucks and his films are overrated.

    by Bucky

  • July 19, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST

    How can anyone match let alone top the TDK?

    by Drunken Busboy

    Seems like some folks raised their expectations a little too high. I bet TDKR is a lot better than most if not any of the Pre-Nolan movies.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:41 p.m. CST

    People can rage all they want, won't make this a better movie

    by Smartacus

    It's just not what it should have been. All the pissing and moaning in the world about why you don't believe it won't change the situation. Batman Begins was the best of the three. TDK was ok but overrated because of Ledger's death. TDKR is also ok but it will be underrated because it's not as good as Batman Begins and it doesn't live up to the expectations following TDK. You can call Harry all the names you want but that's not going to change.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Shit review after shit review now comes pouring in...

    by Dancingforever

    Love it! Just saw it, and it's awful. Harry's review is indeed kind.

  • July 19, 2012, 11:45 p.m. CST

    His descriptions of the character betrayals worries me

    by Eli_Cash

    That kind of stuff really bugs me, and it sounds like they've not only diverged from the comic characterizations but from the established film characterizations too. I'm guessing Batman Begins is still gonna be my favorite after this movie. That one was great because we got to see a real batman, true in spirit to the comics, constructed piece by piece before our eyes. It really seemed like they understood the source material and how to adapt it. TDK continued with this same motif, but the plot was half assed. Now it seems that they're not even telling a Batman story anymore.

  • July 20, 2012, 12:12 a.m. CST

    harry_cox = harry ballz

    by Queefer Sutherland

    How ya doing, harry? I mostly agree with you. Nolan's Batman barely resembles the comic book batman. I've liked the movies thus far, but I haven't seen Rises yet. We'll see. I'm a little worried. However, I would like to see a Batman movie that more closely resembles say, uh, well, BATMAN. Nobody has done it yet. It must be done. Who will be the first?

  • July 20, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST

    "Nolan's biggest and worst movie to date." -Tom Charity,

    by Liquid Meddle

    Others will see it differently, but for me this is a disappointingly clunky and bombastic conclusion to a superior series -- Nolan's biggest and worst movie to date.

  • July 20, 2012, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Well, just because critics rave over a movie doesn't mean its anything special.

    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    Titanic would be a prime example. Roger Ebert loved it and James Cameron even scored a best picture. But it really wasn't anything special aside from the special effects. But c'mon this is James Cameron we're talking about. Of course the visuals are going to be stunning. What we had was the most cliched of love stories with the most cliched of endings. And of course it didn't help that we all knew the godamn boat was going to sink.

  • July 20, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST

    tomdolan04 called it yesterday...

    by Chris Moody

    ...when he said what he thought Harry's review would be for this film. July 19, 2012 2:01:31 AM CDT Wow...he was spot on.

  • July 20, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST

    damn typos. opening IN history & reWATCH Phantom Menace

    by Franck

  • July 20, 2012, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Harry, where would you rank TDKR among all Batman films?

    by Chris Moody

    From most accounts, they rank the films like this: THE DARK KNIGHT THE DARK KNIGHT RISES BATMAN BEGINS BATMAN BATMAN RETURNS BATMAN FOREVER BATMAN (1969) BATMAN & ROBIN So, if BATMAN BEGINS received a positive review, then so should THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. The problem that I think most critics are having is comparing this film with the previous installment...which was a masterpiece. It is like rating Da Vinci's HEAD OF A WOMAN after seeing the MONA LISA a few years earlier. More recently, it is like reviewing RETURN OF THE JEDI but using only the standard set by EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. From most accounts, this is a very good film. The ones who are disappointed seem upset that it isn't THE DARK KNIGHT in both tone and scope. However, like most comic book villains, the tone of the comic that introduces them is different because of the events shaped by villains who came before. You can't fairly judge one issue from the one that immediately preceded it. You simply must see it as another chapter in the life of the comic. I haven't seen the film. I will watch it tomorrow. Still, I am surprised by the black-and-white reaction from people who have seen it. Still, I felt the same way with PROMETHEUS. I truly enjoyed the film because I wasn't alive to see ALIEN and ALIENS at a theater. So, PROMETHEUS didn't damage any nostalgia that I might have otherwise used to prop the previous films upon a pedestal. I will watch TDKR as an independent film...or a the story's arc. If it doesn't jive, I will be disappointed. I hold no allegiance to BATMAN, Nolan, Bale, or anyone else. I just want to see the story that they have to tell...and I hope for the best.

  • July 20, 2012, 12:43 a.m. CST

    You nolan fanboys think he gave a fuck either way?

    by Balkin Flabgurter

  • July 20, 2012, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Batman wouldn't hang up the cowl?

    by pikazerox

    After having finished BB and TDK back to back just now, that's very in-character for the Nolan Batman to do. Gotham doesn't need him at the moment. Surprise surprise, Gotham needs him and he comes back, so why complain.

  • July 20, 2012, 12:45 a.m. CST

    @ queefer sutherland :

    by Chris Moody

    No one has faithfully adapted HAMLET or THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO either...but I still appreciate most of the attempts.

  • July 20, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST

    by that i mean..

    by Balkin Flabgurter

    Nolan regardless is sipping a $50,000,000 bottle of "i dont give a fuck", like an earlier poster noted..all the way to the bank.and let me add Nolan has probably more than once been caught saying "I never really liked batman".

  • July 20, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST

    told you so

    by ShakaLaka Lambo

    i told you guys that amazing spider-man would kick the dark knight rises ass. What a bunch of marooons

  • July 20, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Just saw it...

    by SunTzu77

    A little long - but a solid film. Harry's review comes down to the fact that Nolan didn't deliver "Harry's vision." Harry states he couldn't get involved with the fights because Bane didn't seem like a threat? The fight sequences were grander and more believable than Batman Begins's Ra's Al Ghul sequences. On a scale from 1 - 10... I would give TDKR an 8.5. Here are some films that I've enjoyed within the last year to year and a half... so you have a point of reference... The Avengers Moneyball The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo Margin Call Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy TDKR is more in tone to the first film in the trilogy.

  • July 20, 2012, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Another frame of reference....

    by SunTzu77

    Movies that I've had issues with.... Prometheus The Amazing Spider-man Captain America: The First Avenger The Green Lantern Ghost Rider 2

  • ...but a THUMB'S UP to BATTLESHIP. In what world does this make sense?

  • July 20, 2012, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Two words: Quelle surprise

    by AnalFissure

    From the bell-end who'd already decided he wasn't going to like the TDKR after getting a hard-on for Avengers. The same bell-end who lectured Prometheus' naysayers because they didn't "get" it. Just. Fuck. Off! *makes wanker sign at Knowles*

  • July 20, 2012, 1:54 a.m. CST

    This Talkback will be legendary - even in Hell!!

    by Diggnan

    What we have here is a Category 5 shit-storm of epic proportions!

  • July 20, 2012, 2:23 a.m. CST

    I generally see eye to eye with you about movies but this time...

    by KnightWing

    BATMAN doesn’t mope around his mansion unmotivated to participate in the fucking world. He isn’t that kind of person.

  • July 20, 2012, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Fucking A azultool. Harry's a fucking idiot this time.

    by Count Screwface

    Boo hoo hoo, there was no venom in Bane, he's Al Ghul's son waaaah. The movie was tits, plain and simple.

  • July 20, 2012, 2:29 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry, look here

    by skoolbus

    Bruce stopped being Batman to keep good on his idea to take the fall for Dent. It had little or nothing to do with Rachel's death. The whole 'being bummed about Rachel' stuff was about his not being able to move on and have a normal life. And if you watch that movie without knowing who Miranda Tate is, then, well... Definitely could have done without the Robin bit, tho.

  • July 20, 2012, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Jesus Christ...

    by Superponte

    I loved it. My Friends loved it The audience exploded with Joy at the end of this film. What the fuck else do you want? It was a WONDERFUL film. A fitting finale to this series, that actually felt like the 3rd part of a trilogy. This is a bad movie? BULLSHIT.

  • July 20, 2012, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Why does Harry have any credibility?

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

  • July 20, 2012, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Seriously? Why?

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

  • July 20, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Didn't Harry rave about Green Lantern last year?

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    Not to mention Ang Lee's Hulk, that dogshit Amazing Spiderman, and Sony's reboot of Godzilla. He doesn't like the Dark Knight Rises? But he raved about how much he enjoyed Jar Jar Binks? Harry, you suck!

  • The problem with The Dark Knight is it set a very high standard. So naturally anything less than that will feel like a piece of shit. At the end of the day though, its all fantasy. Nothing more. Believe what you are watching and it will always be a great movie. Analyze and find errors, and you will have a hard time enjoying anything.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:09 a.m. CST

    But Harry...

    by Homerific

    And anyone else who bitches about Alfred leaving Bruce, Alfred did EXACTLY that after Knightfall. While he's rolling around in his wheelchair and pushing himself towards an apparent permanent paralysis Alfred gives him an ultimatum, take it easy or he walks. When Bruce doesn't quit pushing himself Alfred does just that, he leaves Bruce because he can't stand to watch him destroy himself. You'd think a real Batman fan like Harry would know that.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:10 a.m. CST

    your a fucking moron

    by alex

    batman begins had the entire city being destroyed by ghul. joker was going to sink the inmates in TDK. the only time the inmates were used was here in TDKR. and its the same for each video game, the cartoons and everything else. having the inmates of arkham or the other prison is like not having godzilla use fire breath. and we all know how that turned out. In batman begins they didnt even reach the city and every single person on the island inmates included went insane. there was no inmate revolution anywhere to be seen in TDK.joker used his own men. go take your nose breathing dumbass and stick your head in a bucket of water

  • July 20, 2012, 3:11 a.m. CST

    that was entirely in reply to (hey mouthbreathers)

    by alex

  • July 20, 2012, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Dear Harry

    by Peter Fekkes

    Sir, fuck you. Fuck you you fat, soulless, ginger piece of shit. You wouldn't know a good movie if it rose from the earth and bit you in that GARGANTUAN ass of yours. I know most fat people are starved for attention, and maybe that's what you're going for when you shit all over this site, but this is pathetic. What annoyed me most about your stupid fucking review is your preface about how such a HUGE (figuratively and literally) fan you were, as if that makes your completely uniformed review legit. You're pissing because you didn't get a set visit, or a little trinket to butter you up. Case in point: The Green Lantern. That was a huge, green, stinking pile of shit. But they sent you a power ring, and because you were recovering from some surgery (caused by being a fat piece of shit). You waxed poetic about that shitfest like it was Citizen Kane. Fuck you, fuck your site and fuck your pathetic attempt at a review. Im sure your disappointment in TDKR is minor compared to what a disappointment you beig a fat, pathetic sell-out your parents see you as. Fuck you and the fat horse you rode in on.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:15 a.m. CST

    by trickboarder247

    Thank you for this post! I was beginning to think I was the only one disappointed by this film. Too many liberties were taken with the characters, and the ending was just plain cheesy. Even if TDK had not come before this, I still would find it disappointing. The plot is pretty predictable.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:18 a.m. CST

    i will officially never ever read any of harrys reviews ever again

    by Batmangelo

    Clearly you have no idea what your talking about and you have the shittiest taste in movies ever i kniw most of the stuff on here is based on opinion and your more than entitled to yours and youve made a great living of it but your wrong on this one clearly your thinking too much on how the other mediums of batman and not how this one was different and its own entity (and most of us on this site are guilty of that) but your dead wrong about this movie in every aspect and to that i say fuck yiu harry..........that is all

  • July 20, 2012, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Got out not long ago.

    by kolchak

    I hate to say it, but Harry is right. <br /> <br /> Only this isn't bad because of Bane's ethnicity or Alfred leaving Bruce. It's bad because of clunky plot mechanics, ENDLESS expository dialogue, characters we don't care about and a "fuck you" middle-finger ending.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:21 a.m. CST

    I just saw it.... It's fantastic. Must suck to be Harry.

    by Ross

    Honestly...... The movie is absolutely fantastic. If you loved the first two as I did most of you will love this one. The fact that Harry is so caught up in his prior knowledge of the Batman universe and what he feels is the correct and only way the plot should unfold and the characters should react is very sad indeed. You have ruined this one for yourself Harry. That's a shame..... Because it is indeed a brilliant movie.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:30 a.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy

    Just saw it, kinda of liked it, but I feel... deflated?... I remember watching the trailer for The Dark Knight (the first one with a good look at Joker) and thinking, "What if this is a good as it will get? What if they can't do better?"... Then I saw it, and saw it again two hours later, and then a week or so after... And, I still like it. But, to me this is like Return of the Jedi, good, yet not as much as the last one (IMHO).

  • July 20, 2012, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Just saw it annnnd.... Uh yeah disappointed

    by Wcwlkr

    The more I think about it, the more disappointed I am. And it have the potential to be sublime!

  • July 20, 2012, 3:33 a.m. CST

    How surprising...

    by Derrida77

    Given that Harry hates Chris Nolan who here expected a positive review?

  • July 20, 2012, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Harry is... right. But for the wrong reasons.

    by Negator76

    I can't believe I just typed those words. Harry is right, this film is a mess. But it's not because Nolan doesn't 'get' Batman. Nolan's interpretation of the character has been compelling and reasonably reverential through all three movies. The problem is the storytelling. This movie has no real central narrative, and no tonal consistency. It's clogged with ridiculous 'tell-don't-show' speechifying. It's logic of cause-and-effect and sociology is rushed and simplistic AT BEST. 'Dark Knight', for all its plot holes, worked wonderfully because it took the character of the Joker (brilliantly interpreted by Ledger) as its starting point and built the themes and competing philosophies of its characters around him and his actions. This movie basically takes the narrative skeleton of Superman/Spider-Man 2 and adds about 9 irrelevant characters, 12 irrelevant scenes, and tons of sociology 101 pretensions to try to mask how thin and contrived its central plot is. This movie isn't just 'not as good as DK'. It's terrible. Really, really not good. The opposite of excellent. Insert pejorative here and apply it to this movie. Yuck. Negatory. No thank you.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:37 a.m. CST


    by Negator76

    Anne Hathaway was good. It's a shame she was wasted in this goofy mess of a third chapter.

  • This is Christopher Nolan's story of Batman, not the comics. Complaining that it doesn't resonate with your expectations to meet the comics' exact story lines or character arcs is not an acceptable excuse. If you want the exact comic stories, read the comics. This is Nolan's version of Batman. There is nothing wrong if you don't like it. However, if it is based on disappointment with your own personal problems based on expectations, as compared to viewing it on its own merits, who cares what you have to say other than yourself? Usually people want to see different takes on established characters (Darren Aronofsky doing Wolverine or Robocop, or even his version of Batman, for example), yet Harry complains about this film when the events that take place are justifiable within the context of the trilogy. It seems Harry's problems stem more from himself than with the actual film itself.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by Peter Fekkes

    I disagree, there was a central narrative. When Bane drops Bruce in the pit, he tells him that he'll destroy Gotham's soul with hope. That's exactly what Nolan did. He strung us along with all of these plans and plots to defeat Bane, and each time they get SO close, only to have it unravel. The only difference is that the audience is finally awarded for their hope in the end. I thought it was brilliant.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Nolan's Triumphant Batman Trilogy

    by Dark Knight Lite

    The wife and I loved it, and are seeing it again tomorrow, er later today. Sorry you can't appreciate this unique and distinctive iteration of Batman, Harry. Pity. As someone who knows more about comics than you do, and has the Masters thesis to prove it, keep your condescending comments regarding what it means to be a "true Batman fan" to yourself.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Just saw it - Third movie curse is alive and well

    by Screentext

    Man I'm so depressed. What the fuck was Nolan thinking? It's like he thought it was the last episode of Friends.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:50 a.m. CST

    by peterclay65

    Shooting in Colorado at the midnight screening of TDKR. aparently two shooters, one in custody other still on the run, I'm getting my info from sky news in the UK. apparently masked gun man and they may have used tear gas or something similar

  • July 20, 2012, 3:52 a.m. CST

    10 dead 30 to 40 injured

    by Dr Eric Vornoff


  • July 20, 2012, 3:52 a.m. CST


    by Negator76

    I agree, Harry's criticisms are totally off-base. That's because Harry's critical reasoning skills and language comprehension are on par with a spastic 11 year old flipper-baby who can only mash his drool-flecked keyboard in frustration on those rare occasions that a thought occurs to his atrophied mind. It's Nolan's version of Batman and it's been relatively consistent and yielded great movies the past two times out of the gate. He obviously has read the comics and drawn as much as he could from them, given the nature of the world he has built. I would argue that his 'Joker' is one of the best interpretations I've seen in any medium, be it comics or film. That said, Harry's right about this movie being a bad, stupid mess. It's just as self-serious and plot-holed as 'Dark Knight' without even a tenth of the tension, thematic integrity, or storytelling elegance. Nolan was clearly out of ideas, so he settled for bloat and simply added more ancillary characters that we don't care about. And he doubled down on the hamfisted speechifying that occasionally troubled 'Dark Knight'. This movie was dramatically stillborn. It told when it should have shown. It merely dropped in storylines when it should have weaved them together. And the writers never bothered to really weave a theme into the narrative and the villains the way that the first two chapters did. It's okay to deviate from franchise orthodoxy as long as it serves the story and the theme. This movie deviated plenty, and really had nowhere interesting to go. This is the Superman Returns of Batman movies.

  • July 20, 2012, 3:58 a.m. CST

    WTF... Someone just shot up a theatre playing batman

    by Screentext

    Anyone know where Harry is?

  • July 20, 2012, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver

    by Supermans

    Apparently some psycho decides to kill 10 people in front of a movie theater wearing a Bane like mask. Horrible tragedy for those Batman fans.

  • July 20, 2012, 4 a.m. CST


    by drfrightner

    Look I have to say this... 15 years we all cried in bed at night hoping one day they would make a Batman movie, Green Lantern, Spider-man and who would have ever thought we'd finally see Avengers. Now you idiots on sites like these rip them apart like they are suppose to be Gone with the Wind or something... get a life! I mean seriously I remember loving every second of a new but cheesy Godzilla movie and now we have all this eye candy and we tear these movies apart like you expect more than you should. Comic book movies are NOT REAL ... there will always be a level of stuff that just makes no sense like Hulk being able to transform into some beast that can stop just about anything. You guys need to start understanding that you are living in the best era of film for the comic book fan and remember comic book movies can't be the next Oscar best picture. With that being said... Dark Knight Rises was simply the best comic book movie ever made. Almost every dumb thing Harry said goes out the window... he was locked in that prison for months healing, prior to getting back in shape he was beat up by Bane. The movie is based over months not days, not weeks, but months and years. This movie was so incredible and the ending was so awesome it should be given a nomination for best picture much the same way LOTR got despite the fact the third one was NOT the best of the three. Nolan has simply reinvented Comic Book movies and left every other director taking notes and re-thinking what is possible with the genre. Harry get a life! Nolan you are simply the best director of this era of film. DrFrightner

  • I think it is very possible that TDKR is not living up to TDK because Nolan got to make a more personal big high concept movie with Inception. He not only got to do his Bond film in a way, but remember that he had been working on the script for Inception for like a decade. Inception was his baby. Perhaps another Batman was somewhat of a chore for Nolan at this point? That seems to be the danger with some of these big franchise movies. One director on three big movies like that is I'm sure a long haul.

  • July 20, 2012, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Harry hates Batman, The Kidd loves the movie. Go figure

    by Supermans

    I can only guess that we are heading towards the end of the world as we know it. It's as if all the reviewers called each other on the phone and decided to do the reverse of what they all normally do just to get a rise out of all of us. I think they succeeded.

  • Apparently the shooter(s) wore a gas mask and possibly dispersed tear gas into the audience.

  • July 20, 2012, 4:07 a.m. CST


    by eldeejo

    I had already seen the movie before I had read this so I didn't get spoiled at all. But if you think a professional reviewers job is to spell out the ending of the movie to you in their review, then you are wrong. And I wasn't crying, Harry was about something to write a review like that.

  • July 20, 2012, 4:07 a.m. CST

    If Harry Hated It, It Must Be Good...

    by Allen

    I know reviews are all about opinions, but come on. I'm not saying TDKR is a masterpiece, but it's better than this review is letting on. Besides, I really don't think I'm gonna trust the opinion of someone that thought the Green Lantern movie was good. Harry hasn't been right on the money about a movie in a long time. As a matter of fact, it seems like the crappier a movie is, the more he likes it. I like the news this website brings and the reviews from the other critics that frequent AIC, but Harry lost his credibility a long time ago.

  • No, I'm not joking. He just looked kinda inspired by Bane's words during Bane's big inspirational speech. I thought he was planning something . Either way, he was being a bitch by just walking back and forth randomly for no real reason.

  • July 20, 2012, 4:19 a.m. CST

    Possibly children injured/shot as well

    by lv_426

    What a fucker. People trying to just enjoy a movie and some nut job busts in with a gun. Police are running around to check other movie theaters in the vicinity to make sure nothing fishy is going on.

  • July 20, 2012, 4:19 a.m. CST

    sky news reporting 10 people dead and

    by peterclay65

    50 people going to hospital, reports of two men in gas masks who used tear gas inside the theatre and then just opened fire on everybody, they didn't say anything they just started shooting, even reports of a baby being hit Fucking bastards

  • July 20, 2012, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Usually don't agree with Harry but he nailed it (spoilers)

    by oogles

    I loved the first two Nolan Batman films (esp. TDK) but found this one to be too c

  • July 20, 2012, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Nothing touches this

    by r4ltman

    if anything ever gets close to this, it will be good,

  • July 20, 2012, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Pt 2

    by oogles

    Too convoluted. Alfred's vacation comic setup the ending from a thousand miles away, so did Tasha's pillow talk. Then to toss in a love connecti

  • What a day. We here are arguing over how good or bad a movie is and people are getting shot and killed at the movies trying to enjoy this movie. There are some sick people in this world. It gets me so mad to hear stories like these. Same goes for the Norway shooter at the Island Camp. These guys should removed from society forever. ELectric chair, life in prison, it doesn't matter as long as they cannot harm anyone again.

  • Of course this shooting in Colorado is an extreme case. I remember hearing news reports of shootings and murders for PS3 midnight releases. I think there was some shootings or stabbings when they had a midnight release for the game Grand Theft Auto IV. I'm guessing there will be less midnight showings/releases after this due to these types of events needing to have hired security or police prescence present.

  • This guy loved Green Lantern and The Amazing Spider-man. How the fuck can you love a movie with a shot of Peter Parker bending a goalpost while the entire football team looks on yet there's hardly a reaction to it? How about dunking a basketball from the fucking 3 point line? that shit was good but DKR is bad? Really? Fuck this fat bastard. There was a time I though Aicn was a great site but those days have been long gone and Harry's nothing but a fucking sellout. not because he doesn't like DKR, but because it's so obvious that every-time you see a million interviews for any particular movie on this site he's going to inevitably love it.

  • In the comics Bruce begins training shortly after his parents are killed becoming incredibly possessed and focused. Nolan's Wayne responded differently to the trauma and drifted largely until he tried to kill...whichever mobster it was, I forget now before just drifting the world til he encountered Ra's who instilled a purpose in Wayne (after a fashion). Right from the get go Nolan was playing with a different psychological spin on Batman. While I don't totally buy how the Rachel thing was constructed I understand the idea and Bruce was willing during TDK to walk away from being Batman as it wasn't a twenty year long obsession with this version. Add in the betrayal he received from his body and I can see this Bruce walking away, particularly when those close to him are trying to push him in that direction (except Fox who seems a bit conflicted with his tempting Bruce). Which, other than the dead childhood friend/love interest is actually not all that different from the Bruce Wayne seen in Batman Beyond who, when he had to move on, almost stopped existing as a person- which the Wayne in this film did as well though for a few different reasons. Yeah it isn't exactly the same Batman from the comics but by that measure neither is the one in The Dark Knight Returns as Bruce had walked away there as well for a number of years without letting his obsession rule him...until it did again anyway. In the comics Bruce Wayne is the mask that Batman wears but in Nolan's universe it never was that, Batman was more an aspect of Bruce's rage that he let out but which on its own didn't consume him.

  • July 20, 2012, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Shocking news

    by Tony

    Thats the trouble with real life, there's too many jokers and banes and not enough batmen. :(

  • July 20, 2012, 4:53 a.m. CST

    And its a great fucking film. Fuck you haters.

    by Xen11

  • July 20, 2012, 5:06 a.m. CST


    by Nichole

    Yeah, I feel this might effect future screenings. I'm going to heed your advice and see the movie multiple times. Don't understand why people attack innocent people like this. Last place you would expect to get shot, while you are settling in for the film. Heard he started right after the trailers. So sad.

  • July 20, 2012, 5:07 a.m. CST

    So what happened?

    by AlanBurnett

    Did WB not give you a Batman ring or something? Did Nolan not provide you with a private screening? No set visits? Knowles' review is just pure fanboy nonsense, in which he chastises Nolan for not making Knowles' idea for a Batman film. Yeah, the action sequences are OK, but they're no Green Lantern: that movie rocked, yo. Hathaway was decent, but she was no Bella Heathcote in 'Dark Shadows': that girl NAILED the oh-so-memorable Victoria Winters. The logic was kinda fuzzy, unlike in Prometheus, in which every character acts brilliantly all the time. Jesus, it's one thing to hold up The Dark Knight Rises to such a standard that only your own film could compete, that's one thing, but when your standards are so low that the likes of DH and Prometheus get apologist reviews, then there's a serious problem.

  • How fuck can you hate The Amazing Spider-Man or The Dark Knight Rises or The Avengers? You are one sick fuck if you can't appreciate these films. We live in a golden age of these kind of films. You dumb pieces of shit that complain that it wasn't like this in the comics go suck a dick and read the fucking comics. Why would you want the exact same story right down to the detail? That would fucking suck if they catered to your whims. The Dark Knight Rises is really fucking amazing. I just saw all three films back to back in IMAX and it was one wonderful beautiful story that flowed together.

  • And the ENDING was the BEST goddamn part of it!! I swear dude, your inability to appreciate that ending reveals that you truly are a one severely immature 40 year old. WOW. Grow the fuck up and join the adult world, bro.

  • July 20, 2012, 5:22 a.m. CST

    wait... what? someone killed people in a theater?

    by antonphd

    what the fuck?

  • July 20, 2012, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Harry, respectfully disagree

    by vigilante1le

    This is one amazing and chilling film from top to bottom. What seems to be your greatest complaint through you entire review is that it doesn't hold true enough to the Batman cannon you grew up on. There were liberties taken all throughout this series, and a solid film like this you choose to go apesh*t crazy about it. This is a perfect conclusion to Nolan's series trilogy. With all that amazing as this film is and I will see it again in Imax this weekend. Gotta say my thoughts are actually on something more important with the tragic shooting in Colorado.

  • July 20, 2012, 5:28 a.m. CST

    This was the guy that enjoyed Spider-Man 3...

    by Jam Banjo

    ....remember that folks

  • July 20, 2012, 5:30 a.m. CST

    what a fucker

    by robat

    6 year old killed. what an absolute fucking fucker

  • What a tragedy. Prayers out to all affected. Horrible news. On Fox News, they interviewed someone that gave a detailed description as to what happened.

  • Don't go in with your idea of what it should and shouldn't be. It's really good. I am also certain it'll get better on repeat viewings.

  • July 20, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST

    James Cameron: Interview on Fox news was in the theater

    by Supermans

    This kid was there visiting with a friend when he heard the loud explosions. THey all started coughing. After the shooting stopped, police told all of them to get out. That is when James saw the mother holding her dead kid. Others being dragged out who looked dead. Horrible scene.

  • July 20, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST

    - Dark Knight Rises was better than Dark Knight -

    by Jonathan

    Yeah, I said it. >_<

  • July 20, 2012, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Yeah...that was pure Batman. (spoilers)

    by TheLastCleric

    Firstly, I commend Nolan for having the balls to make a Batman finale where Batman is actually only in the suit for about 30% of the flick. Granted, anybody who understands the mythos knows that the lack of the suit doesn’t make him any less Batman but clearly that point alone will get some people fuming. The irony about Harry’s condescending “go read a real Batman comic” statement is that he obviously hasn’t read jack shit when you consider this film cribs heavily from three separate but widely known Batman stories: Knightfall, The Dark Knight Returns, and No Man’s Land. As to the whole retirement argument, the film clearly shows us that Bruce has been permanently injured from his fall in TDK and was also forced to go into hiding after taking the wrap for Harvey’s death. None of this is difficult to decipher so either Harry can’t follow a basic plot or he’s lying to slander this flick.

  • July 20, 2012, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Poor Harry

    by Nitestar

    Crying like a bitch blasting this movie because he probably wasn't invited to visit the set...

  • July 20, 2012, 5:45 a.m. CST

    Correct, Borrows quite a bit from No Man's Land and Knightfall

    by vigilante1le

    Brought a smile to my face with simple stuff like Selina defending 'her turf'. Loved this movie a lot.

  • July 20, 2012, 5:48 a.m. CST

    You just know the shooter was an enraged Marvel fan

    by FluffyUnbound

    What? Too soon?

  • July 20, 2012, 5:48 a.m. CST

    Also not sure he saw the film... (SPOILERS)

    by Jam Banjo

    ...given that he missed so much of it. I mean almost everything he's mentioned here is clearly explained in the film. Gotham is relatively crime-free. Harvey's supposed martyrdom has resulted in this, so there is no need for Batman. This is stated, I don't know, several times. So, as he doesn't need to be Batman anymore (remember John Blake saying how they are basically not real cops at the moment) he gives up the cape and cowl. Something he wanted to do once his inspiration worked. The cost to Bruce is huge, as he loses Rachel. So with no Batman, and no desire to be the playboy, he retreats from the world. Totally within character and has happened a number of times in the comics. Without Batman, Bruce is lost. Alfred has, in the comics, a number of times told Bruce he will not watch him kill himself. In the comics, he has left Bruce, I don't know, several times. Not every cop in Gotham goes in the sewers, but most do, only after weeks of searching and in desperation. A lot don't and they have to hide their identity as stated, I don't know, several times in the film? The knife danger was there when Bruce swapped his body armour for something more lightweight in TDK. Lucius mentioned it in the last film, it was commented on, I don't know, several times. You don't like that they set up that Bane might be Ra's son? Erm. You don't like the distraction? You don't like the ruse? They didn't change his history or Talia's (just cleverly intertwined them). Bitching for bitching's sake. Did you not like how they pretended that Clark Kent was a normal reporter? Did you not like that they pretended Bruce Willis was alive in Sixth Sense? Christ. Ra's hallucination - you're seriously complaining that they didn't go ba