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Anthony Mackie Flies Like A Falcon Into The Captain America Sequel!!
The Kidd here...
It may have just been over the weekend at Comic-Con that we got an idea of where Captain America might be heading next in the Marvel Movie Universe with his solo follow-up landing the title CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLIDER, which may be referring to a Captain America story arc that has Bucky's body found preserved in Russia and brought back as a Russian assassin with a bionic arm under the code name the Winter Soldier. If that's the plan to keep Sebastian Stan in the mix, then Captain America may need a new sidekick to head into battle with, and Anthony Mackie could be ready to take the role.
The Hollywood Reporter reports that Anthony Mackie is in talks with Marvel Studios to become Falcon for CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER. Falcon, otherwise known as Sam Wilson, was a regular ally of Captain America, helping him take on Red Skull as his partner for some time and even taking on the Captain America persona when Captain America was believed to have been killed. Falcon derives his powers from a suit which helps him fly, and he's able to communicate telepathetically with birds. Falcon is also historically the first African-American superhero, having debuted in 1969, introduced in Captain America #117.
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Love it. Loved Cap 1 - this is gonna be great!
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always thought was kinda weak, hope they elevate him to more then black sidekick.
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Don't know much about him though. Any good?
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Mackie was good in Adjustment Bureau, I can see him working as Falcon
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July 16, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST
Billy, when are you announcing the Dark Knight screening winners?
by Jesse
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July 16, 2012, 4:11 p.m. CST
I'm astonish and giving marvel films big props for populating their movie verse with such diverse characters. That final avengers movie is gonna be huge!
by Cedric Ford
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July 16, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST
Mackie was awesome in The Hurt Locker. This looks like dang fine casting and like Cap 2 is shaping up to be a very good film!
by Dogmatic
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so i'm interested.
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The Falcon is one of those characters that could be totally lame or be cool, depending on how he's done. I like how Brubaker has used him so hopefully they will keep it in that vein.
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July 16, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST
Thanks believe it or not, I have not seen either Adjustment or Hurt
by Longtime Lurker
Somehow I missed those. Oops. :)
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Black Panther debuted in Fantastic Four #52 in 1966, three years BEFORE the Falcon's first appearance.
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Or did he miss THE HOBBIT panel?
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I think apart from the origin story and Avengers roles, he looks kind of goofy.
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July 16, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST
man I said I wanted this to happen last year. and now here it is
by Chain
woot.
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Article says first African-American not Black. Either way Marvel has always been progresive. Good for them.
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the fuck?
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I think apart from the origin story and Avengers roles, he looks kind of goofy.
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Freudian slip? ;)
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The first African-American superhero isn't Marvel's Falcon - it's Steve Perrin's Black Phantom. The character debuts in prose, in Mask and Cape 4, in 1964, and first appears in a comic in a 13-page tale illustrated by Ronn Foss in 1966's Fantasy Illustrated 6.
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July 16, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
Caps costume was pretty beaten up in Avengers, so hopefully they will issue him a new one.
by whatevillurks
Bring back the helmet and chinstrap, it looked more military.
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OR about to create a cinematic universe that will be unparalleled in the history of moving pictures. The way they are starting to throw characters into movies (both popular and obscure) is crazy! It could lead to overkill, but no one will be able to say they didn't go balls-to-the-wall when they got the chance. I know I'll be cheering for them and I may even give them a bogey or two.
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Who got any traction, and that anyone has ever heard of, was Black Panther, intro'd in Fantastic Four in 1966. Sorry about Black Phantom--never heard of him, and if we're going into minor characters and imprints, I wouldn't be surprised if there was stuff back in the 30's printed on someone's mimeo machine.
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A character even MORE ridiculous than Ant Man. And one with a sillier costume than Wonder Woman. You couldn't have picked a worse character to introduce if you tried.
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Magic space squirrels and psychic bird fly-boys. It seems like Marvel has decided to implode. Please tell me I'm wrong because I don't want to br right.
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July 16, 2012, 4:50 p.m. CST
Relax guys. Its a guy with glider wings, it will work. There will be no talking to birds or red and white suit.
by whatevillurks
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Bless their hearts. They had the first black supervillain I'd ever seen (in a Steranko issue of "SHIELD") and routinely just seemed more aware the world didn't simply revolve around white people. Always loved Stan and Jack for that. DC took a lot longer to wake up.
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The Black Panther isn't African-American. =)
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July 16, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST
It's still being directed by the scrotum sacks that made You Me and Dupree...
by Roketopunch
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July 16, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST
Well I hope he can fly better than that Armenian guy from Kick-Ass.
by Spyhunter
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If you're at all familiar with the source material surrounding the return of James "Bucky" Barnes and the Winter Soldier you'd understand that this is excellent news. Brubaker's work on Captain America is some of the best there is and that includes the reversal of what was often considered an "untouchable" comic book death. The Winter Soldier is a great character and if they do it justice it'll give Sebastian Stan some good meaty material to work with and expand the Marvel Film Universe into the realm of action-espionage.
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lol I always wanted to use that line :)
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aquaman can talk to the fishes fitting someone should be able to talk to birds. I wonder if they will use that telepath to birds angle, or if they will change that. What could be on a birds mind anyway, where the worms at? Marvel bringing in the obscure characters, love it!
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...he's African-African, or African-Wakandan. Or whatever the current PC term is to describe a non-American person with brown skin pigmentation.
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July 16, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST
Black Panther is NOT the first African-American superhero
by rev_skarekroe
Because he's not American.
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maybe people will think 60s radicals and how do you recreate Wakanda in a movie? I know they will make that movie one day.
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July 16, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST
Marvel, do the right thing and make a Black freaking Panther movie!
by The Krypton Kid
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but the falcon is cool
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July 16, 2012, 5:18 p.m. CST
panther is not american...he is african...falcon was the first african american
by walt
kirby had to fight lee to get black heroes...lee is a racist
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Really hope that's what they're working up to.
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Look I'm ok with them putting The Falcon in a Captain America Sequel. He's a big part of Cap's history. But come on MAN! Sam Jackson's Nick Fury is a supporting character at best. War Machine wasn't even in the Avengers even though that would've made sense. So why can't we get an actual Black lead to join The Avengers. Did Red Tails scare Marvel off so badly from doing a Black Panther. Remember a movie called BLADE! Which pretty much help spark Marvel Studios. So a film with a Black super-hero can work. Blade was great Blade 2 even better, I ignore the abomination that was Blade 3 even though the begining was excellent. I'm just saying give us BLACK PANTHER.
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That he was less eager than Jack to have the Black Panther? By that standard, almost every white person in America was racist, and that's setting the bar pretty fucking low.
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But he was still the first major black superhero, a far more important distinction to black people, I can pretty much promise you.
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Marvel is being cautious because evidence suggests a film with a black superhero would be problematic, for the same reason that black superhero comics have never done well--human beings want to see "their own" and are reluctant to step outside that comfort zone. It's damned tricky, but hardly a problem confined to Marvel.
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July 16, 2012, 5:32 p.m. CST
Stop passing off copy and pastes from Wikipedia as off-the-cuff knowledge
by milk
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July 16, 2012, 5:39 p.m. CST
hipshot, Marvel needs to show some guts and create a Black Panther film so fantastic and epic that white audiences will have no choice but to see it.
by The Krypton Kid
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July 16, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST
Market a Black Panther film as absolutely essential viewing in the build-up to Avengers 2 and audiences will not have a choice but see it.
by The Krypton Kid
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July 16, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST
Will he be "Snap" Wilson the ghetto hipster who becomes Sam Wilson the compassionate social worker because of the Red Skull?.
by cookylamoo
I always thought that was one of Marvel's worst character convolutions.
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July 16, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST
Yes the Black Panther was the first black superhero, or at least one before the Falcon
by Rupee88
And I always liked the Falcon due to his colorful costume but doubt they will keep that for the movie. That will be tough to pull off, but maybe they can do it.
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Glad to see they'll be bringing some new heroes into the mix!
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I think this question has been sufficiently answered already...
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I swear we heard these same arguments when Captain America was announced ("It won't WORK!) and THOR too ("He's too OUT THERE! Audiences won't respond!"). They were proven wrong. And then The Avengers came out and we still heard the complaints ("Thor DOESN'T fit with Iron Man!" "Joss Whedon can't make a good movie!"). Has no one learned their lesson yet?
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The article says first African-American. Black Panther was African.
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I just wanted to join the chorus.
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My bet is they take the tactic they have with many of the Marvel film superheroes thus far (for better or worse) in modeling much of it after the Ultimate universe. Say what you will about the Ultimate universe itself, but the Falcon there is better suited for the MCU than the many iterations of the Falcon in the proper Marvel universe, and i have no doubt they're going to model Mackie after him. A scientist who happens to be a badass with those wings and the guns. They've gone out of their way to show that these heroes are somehow "grounded" in reality, except for Thor, and even there they made it a point to pretty much explicitly say that the Asgardians just have a more advanced understanding of science. I doubt they'll make the Falcon an Asgardian, so the whole "talking to birds thing" would be out of place for an earth-oriented scientist. That said, Anthony Mackie is pretty badass. And people should learn to at least wait until the movie comes out before judging it; Marvel will likely make a big misstep here or there but they've overcome low fanboy-expectations before..
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July 16, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST
Yes, I find it hilarious that talkbackers get upset about Falcoln talking to birds...
by D.Vader
Knowing full well that is the COMIC version, not the movie version. Its like they forget the movies have left out some of the more bizarre aspects of the comics, like Thor being a human named Donald Blake. They seem to think if its like that in the comics, it will DEFINITELY be like that in the movie. And therefore, the movie will suck and MARVEL is making *terrible* decisions. Just like they did a few years ago.
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July 16, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST
stan used to run around the bullpen calling kirby the n word, cuz kirby had dark curly hair...chapter one of evaniers next book
by walt
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July 16, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST
and before kirby died, he predicted that idris elba would be the black panther....chapter 2
by walt
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Right behind Meteor Man...
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why?
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July 16, 2012, 6:25 p.m. CST
He looks cool! Make it happen suits!...and rethink that flying raccoon shit
by DoctorWho?
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I can't wait to see how bland the take on what is already a bland hero turns out to be in this film. Oh wait, yeah I can.
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YEAH! Shoot him in the head!
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July 16, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST
Kirby's estate doesn't deserve a goddamn dime from Falcon
by The Garbage Man
Considering he had nothing to fucking do with the character. Falcon was created by Stan Lee and Gene Colan. Said Colan in 2008, "...in the late 1960s [when news of the] Vietnam War and civil rights protests were regular occurrences, and Stan, always wanting to be at the forefront of things, started bringing these headlines into the comics... I approached Stan, as I remember, with the idea of introducing an African-American hero and he took to it right away." Stop trolling, asshole.
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July 16, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST
Didn't the Falcon get made fun of on Robot Chicken before?
by Kyle DeMattio
There was this old episode of Robot Chicken where they did a sketch that spoofed The Real World by putting superheroes in it like Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman in the sketch, and I remember seeing the Falcon in this sketch.
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July 16, 2012, 7:19 p.m. CST
I thought Obama was the first African-American superhero.
by JohnWayneWasGay
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July 16, 2012, 7:23 p.m. CST
Marvel is so out of touch with movie goers its hilarious....
by brechtsky
They stumbled blindly into avengers glory after not one, but two sub-par adaptations .... And they diss joe Johnston, the guy whos vision and direction made cap easily the best non-ironman flick... And now their idea for a cap sequel, while great to include the winter soldier arc, is stupid as crap for including a guy who literally has wings and can fly.... Can you say corny? Because everyone else will....
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Is what the consensus apparently is among some people.
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...of him in his underwear? That's standard practice, isn't it? Or is that just for the ladies?
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I don't think it's guts as much as simply not having the same motivation to try that they would if they were making movies about people they resemble. It's sad, but true, otherwise the progress wouldn't be so slow.
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If I considered "racist" every white man who talked like that at times, in those times, I'd hate about 90% of white people. Despite that, Marvel was better than DC, so I'd have to place them even lower. Marvel put perfectly fine dialog and actions onto Black characters in Marvel, and was the only company that did for a long time. and no, it wasn't just when Kirby was drawing them.
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Nah. Muhammad Ali was the first black superhero.
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July 16, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST
"Marvel is so out of touch with movie goers its hilarious...."
by D.Vader
Yes, yes, the box office for their films certainly agrees with that assessment...
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Falcon was always pretty lame- they could have had Cap team up with Hawkeye instead. Much more interesting character dynamic. Maybe they can give Sam Wilson more attitude than he had in the funnny books.
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Badly-dubbed cleaned-up for television version of Bruce Willis signature line in Die Hard 2
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I don't understand all the hate surrounding some of Marvel's ballsier moves since the release of The Avengers. Let DC handle the pseudo-serious hero's journey stuff (wherein they release one movie every two or three years) and Marvel can do this crazy cartoonish stuff with bright colors and off-the-wall ideas. I can't be the only one who thinks the overwrought, dark, conflicted hero is dead. Nolan's Batman series will go down as the high-watermark for that sort of thing, and he's done it perfectly. I'm absolutely not hating on his film series, which I admire and love. But let Marvel build up the sort of freewheeling universe that has been so indelible in the funny books. Whedon's Avengers showed it can be done and done right. There's room for both out there.
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stan wanted him to tap dance too...the bullpen beat him silly
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Charlize Theron is South African. Does that make her "Africian Ameican?" Of course not. Drop the tortured hyphenate bullshit designed to make black people special. Looks pretty damn silly.
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Charlize Theron is South African. Does that make her "Africian American?" Of course not. Drop the tortured hyphenate bullshit designed to make black people special. Looks pretty damn silly.
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No, it's designed to help understand the different groups that make up the American tapestry, as that history influences our present. I see plenty of bumper stickers, parades, holidays and everything else composing European heritages of various kinds. And no, I don't expect you to get it.
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.. and the Falcon is a nice touch. They had a very good run in the comics. The Falcon made the title for a while. (((applause)))
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and will def do Falcon some justice on screen, Excellent choice for Stars & Stripes!!!!!
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July 16, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST
So I'm guessing everyone has already forgotten about the BLADE films?
by Monroville
I kinda remember the hero having a nice tan... nicer than any of those Avenger dudes.
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July 16, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST
You know, the films that kick-started the entire MARVEL film empire?
by Monroville
BLADE just doesn't get any respect. Okay... the first 2 BLADE movies just don't get any respect.
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The haters raised every single doubt as to why Thor wouldn't or couldn't work on film. How did that turn out for you all?
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To my mind, it's the first modern comic-book movie, preceeding X-Men by two years.
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July 16, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST
Although I never really cared for Blade 2 (Del Toro fan, even) and ignored the 3rd one.
by Autodidact
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Charlize Theron is South African American. Just like some other person could be French American or Japanese American. So African American is the equivalent of European American or Asian American. Ok maybe those terms are all stupid.
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Well, at least he's not anti-semitic.
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July 16, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
As a black guy, can i just say that "THE FALCON" in ultimate or original flavor will always suck ass
by The_All_Dead
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or a SHIELD guy.
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Read their team-ups as a kid and always dug it. Am glad they're going in this unexpected direction.
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The problem with black super heroes is there isn't really any cool ones. its not limited to black but all non Caucasians. what is there? sunfire? from marvel Celsius from doom patrol? Powerman?, bishop? cyborg? steel? No real A-listers Amongst that lot, totally understandable. Earths mightiest heroes / golden age heroes are white, they were created in another era. But this the ultimate universe. and although i would It would be nice to see a main player in the ultimates universe that isnt a sidekick, a spare like rhodey or jon Stewart a peripheral character like fury or a ridiculous retconn. JL reboot has made cyborg into a main player and a founding member. It would be cool if it could be done with the ultimates universe and Pym to me sound like the idea character. He's a main character but outside comics ( like black widow and hawkeye) not as well known. Earths mightiest heroes are white, it'd be pretty cool if a great one wasn't.
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that came out in perfectly formed sentences in my head.
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July 17, 2012, 1:05 a.m. CST
Don't make Cap look militaristic. He isn't in the military
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
any longer. The Captain moniker was always honorary. You don't want a superhero to imply a militarized state.
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July 17, 2012, 1:46 a.m. CST
This whole "African American" thing gets more and more annoying by the year...
by u.k. star
And it does lead to the type of confusion you see here. There's a distinction between the kind of "French American, Dutch American" statements made earlier in this post. Those descriptives describe a heritage, where you hail from, they do not, or are not meant to, also be the only definer of your colour / race as well. We're black people, black. We may be black Africans, Afro-Caribbean, Australians, or whatever, but I think the idea that black remains an insult is outdated, and was overdone in the first place. Fair enough I'm not American, although I have friends and family there who are of the same opinion, is it such a problem for Falcon to be described as simply "the first , mainstream, black - American Super hero."? As for Falcon, good character, especially the S.H.I.E.L.D, super smart, bad-ass version from the Ultimate Universe. I too remain disjointedness that Marvel are stalling on making a movie or 2 with a non white male as the lead. It is less progressive than Marvel comics. Again their movies are diverse in characters, just not the leads. The Black Panther movie needs to get going; Captain Marvel too surely. (Ms. Marvel version)
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I know they want a black hero in these movies but I'd rather see Panther or even Moon Knight.
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July 17, 2012, 2:40 a.m. CST
Falcon is fine, it's Dynomutt audiences will have a hard time buying into
by illegal alien vs sexual predator
*crickets* Come on that's funny! Black Falcon/Blue Falcon...get it? Awe, you guys are no fun!
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July 17, 2012, 2:45 a.m. CST
Update!! Will Forte cast as SHIELD agent in charge of Project:Falcon in Cap sequel.
by illegal alien vs sexual predator
Not even a snicker or a chortle? This is lame. I'm going to bed
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July 17, 2012, 2:53 a.m. CST
OK, so he's the first black superhero who wasn't called 'Black [whatever]'.
by highfunctioningsociopath
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And it is a fuckin' doozy! I still love it and still - to this day - have the hots for Night Shade. Yet this was my intro to Cap, and I had always assumed that the Falcon was always with him! Little did I know the whole fuckin' story.. which was part of the fuckin' fun back in the day because they published reprint mags like Marvel Tales instead of the high end horseshit like Marvel Masterworks. Ah... business. The comic industry makes nothing, but even they forget the economic levels of their fanbase. I have always contended that mags like Marvel Super Action, Marvel's Greatest Comics, Marvel Triple Action, and the great Marvel Tales, contributed mightily to Marvel's ongoing awesome legend while allowing every kid who gave a shit to follow their fav heroes exploits. To be perfectly honest, I didn't even know the books were reprints when I was a kid. My God - you pubic hair counting, pussy seeking abominations have no idea of which I speak, do you? This saddens me. Especially for any of the misguided young labia meat flaps that think the current Spidey flick is the real deal, despite the awesome (but flawed) Raimi works of genius. Here I am, off on a tangent again, full of ridicule for the young teet sucking labia that think they know a thing or two. Ya don't. I offer the sexy bitch known as Night Shade as an example. Go ahead. Check out Cap #190 and catch up with me. Tell me it isn't sexy as hell and action packed. This is the era I know all too well. When movies kicked holy ass, but strangely, you never would have seen an Iron Man or Thor flick. You did see Superman fly for the first time - REALLY! - and a very kick ass Enterprise about three years before Khan wreaked his havok. Such is the way. Let's just hope that Quint, in his infinite wisdom (and connections) doesn't suck the wrong dick and make things even worse for the fans of cinema. I'm not sure what that means, but I'm pretty sure Quint and his insatiable desire for cock in his mouth could screw the pooch for all of us. I hope Quint didn't suck Zack Snyder's cock at SDCC, or offer him any kind of "advice" or "memorable stories of cocksucking yesteryear", because I firmly believe that Snyder has a firm handle on Superman and that it could be really, really good. I'm not a particular fan of Snyder's (yet), but Watchmen was incredibly well made. Kudos, Zack Attack. Ah, fuck it. All I really care about is Miller's "Fury Road", and I'm drunk again. NO! I seriously care about Superman - and I think it will rock. Later.
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Yees... quit playing these STUPID semantic games! Everyone in America knows — ESPECIALLY Black people like me — that "African-American" is nothing more than the latest generic term to describe someone of African descent... whether it be "colored," "Negro," "Black," or whatever. Almost nobody in the USA thinks of the term LITERALLY as someone who's both Black AND American. If you're a Black Brit walking the streets of NYC, you'll be called "African-American." If you're from Trinidad and someone sees you, they'll blindly call you "African-American"... simply because you're BLACK, and it's just the latest PC way of describing your ethnicity. Yes, it's completely stupid. Yes, the term "African-American" is completely STUPID, but so is pretty much everything ELSE about political correctness. So, NO... The Falcon ISN'T the first "African-American" superhero as almost ALL Americans understand the term, because he ISN'T the first BLACK superhero. He's just a lame character with an idiotic origin and lame powers who was Capt. America's sidekick for a while, and who was created in-between the MUCH more notable Black characters of The Black Panther and Luke Cage, Power Man. And quite frankly, I could do WITHOUT another Black sidekick weakening the sequel to a superhero movie. If you're going to call it CAPTAIN AMERICA: The Winter Soldier, focus on Bucky, Cap's adjustment to the 21st Century and whatever villains are in it, and leave the token "African-American" hero out of it! It's annoying, condescending and Black people would MUCH prefer that Marvel focus on creating a tentpole film STARRING a Black hero like The Panther, rather than tossing us crumbs with a stupid character even comic book fans couldn't care LESS about, like the Falcon. >:P
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July 17, 2012, 3:34 a.m. CST
Falcon, talks to birds. just don`t. There`s a fine line.
by higgledyhiggles
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That was the whole point I was trying to make before getting side tracked. The Falcon is seriously badass - though I don't know what his current deal is. New Avengers maybe? Quint's penis polisher? I'm not sure.
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July 17, 2012, 3:47 a.m. CST
I'm all for this as long as the Falcon isn't reinvented or changed and doesn't become a minor bit part player.
by jellypop
Capt. America was a fun film...it would seem the sequel is going for a slightly different tone given the story line. I was never a big fan of the Winter Soldier story arc..I just could not get in with it. That aside I am looking forward to seeing it, however the seeds that were sewn first time around need to be preserved. I really hope that the Russo Bros. can do the Falcon justice and in their favour casting Mackie is a great move.
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Drop it Marvel. Its fine in a comic, it'll be just dumb on screen.
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July 17, 2012, 3:48 a.m. CST
When I Started Reading Daredevil, Black Widow Was Murdock's Partner
by THX1968
So fucking bring it!!! A good Daredevil flick could be sooooooo cool. French Connection style.
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This is where it was at when I was a kid. A couple of seriously kick-ass team up books in Cap and Daredevil.
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July 17, 2012, 4:27 a.m. CST
Marvel is so out of touch with movie goers its hilarious....
by Volllllume3
In what universe is Marvel out of touch with movie goers? Do you even read the shit you write?
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July 17, 2012, 5:01 a.m. CST
I thought Gabe Jones was the first black hero in
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
a Marvel book?
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So many good story arcs to choose from: Steve Rogers gives up the Captain America persona Roscoe his replacement gets killed Nuke gets introduced The insane 1950s Captain America gets introduced via flashbacks and battles Steve Bucky takes up the Captain America persona Can't wait!
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July 17, 2012, 5:32 a.m. CST
@illegal alien vs sexual predator Great screen name!
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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You wouldn't have black heroes and white heroes working together? Is that it?
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July 17, 2012, 6:27 a.m. CST
yeah just make ''BLACK PANTHER: AFFIRMATIVE ACTION''
by Mysterious_Volvo
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The Falcon followed the company's first African-American co-starring character, the non-superpowered World War II soldier Gabe Jones, and first regular supporting character, The Amazing Spider-Man's Joe Robertson. The Falcon debuted nearly three years before Luke Cage, Marvel's first African-American series star, and almost six years before the African character Storm, the first black female. The Falcon is also the first superhero of African descent not to have the word "black" as part of his superhero name, preceding the John Stewart Green Lantern by over two years. (The first African-American starring character in comics is Dell Comics' Old West gunfighter Lobo, introduced in 1965.)
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Now if Thor will introduce Beta Ray Bill, all will be well. Keep up the good work Marvel.
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July 17, 2012, 7:51 a.m. CST
If he'd called himself "The Pigeon" and commanded all the pigeons in New York...
by cookylamoo
He's be insanely powerful.
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July 17, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST
I thought we stopped the African-American bullshit. If you live in America you are an American being attacked like everyone else who lives in America
by UltraTron
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July 17, 2012, 8 a.m. CST
A country that has lost a war nobody ever talked about. Declared on us by an unseen enemy. Only one stage of the war left.
by UltraTron
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July 17, 2012, 8:01 a.m. CST
What to do with the last of the spoils. A fat and useless population of people that must be good for something
by UltraTron
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July 17, 2012, 8:12 a.m. CST
Quit whining, Falcon is a great addition, better than War Machine (redundant).
by parissun
Falcon is a great additional. I'm sure Marvel will play up all the tech aspects of his uniform and wings. If you have no problem with a guy in a black cape flying around, you shouldn't have one with Falcon. They will probably also make Redwing into some type of flying drone. I think people can expect something on Black Panther at a future date. I think Black Panther might be introduced in Phase 3. Right now, there is too much going on. I'd rather Marvel focus on their current movies than a new Black Panther movie being lost in the shuffle. Hopefully he's introduced in Avengers 2.
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July 17, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST
"Marvel is so out of touch with movie goers its hilarious...." uh Really???
by Wcwlkr
Because I'd say 1.5 billion & counting on Avengers not even adding up the totals from the other movies would disagree. Come on man think before you post.
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the definition was "superhero", not "hero." Gabe Jones was great. Black Panther was really the first, because he wasn't a sidekick, had his own magazine, and was a total, brilliant badass...like typical comic superheroes. "Falcon" was o.k., but very clearly an also-ran.
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July 17, 2012, 10:13 a.m. CST
Good news. I like the Falcon, I like the way he was used to get Cap in touch with modern-day realities, and I like the chemistry between them. Also prefer the non-flying version.
by kevred
I'd love to see black Panther too, but it seems kind of early for anyone to actually be complaining about Marvel bringing in characters. The more, the merrier. And the less Ultimate they are, the better, too.
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July 17, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST
DonkeyLasher, will anyone take Cap seriously?? I think they established him pretty well in that scene where...
by Dogmatic
in the Avengers he barks order to the NYPD, and they look at him like a crazy man in a flag suit...but then they see him take charge against that Chitauri attack spilling into the cops' area and defend the people like the hero/leader he is and they instantly respect him as the icon he is. That was enough I think.
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July 17, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST
Blacks being second class citiens is not a "Modern Reality"
by cookylamoo
It's just plain old reality.
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Loved that scene. Cap has the fewest powers, but is the tactical thinker, with no ability to back down or quit. Remember that scene where Thor helps him up, asking if he was ready for another bout? I remember thinking that Thor, a demigod, seemed to be thinking that he had never met anyone as courageous as Cap. Beautifully acted moment. Cap is the leader, no doubt.
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This is great news and all you people can do is bring up race crap. Falcon is a superhero that happens to be black. His race was of importance along with Black Panther at the time these characters were introduced because of the climate of our country, but now it doesn't matter. I'm more interested in what this character brings to Caps story than about his race.
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Hey isn't the Falcon basically a rip off of the Vulture just a black guy instead of an old white guy and hero instead of a villain? Stan Lee-No way completely different the Falcon can telepathically communicate with birds. Oh, So he is basically a flying version of Aqua Man...
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...but a flying Nolan Batman perfectly acceptable? Double standards much?
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Nolan's or anyone elses.
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Despite grossly differential stats on incarceration, income, inherited wealth, infant mortality, life expectancy...let alone images in movies (ah, that pesky thing about black men not being able to have sex in movies without it tanking the box office, demonstrated by a complete lack of such images in films earning over 100 million, while about 22% of such movies have such images...) People who say this often know no black people, and are usually quite Conservative--need, in other words, to believe the playing field is level, despite the fact that that has never been level (although it is certainly more level than it has ever been. America has actually tried, which is an amazing thing). Anyway...people who think "it doesn't matter" usually have a very, very limited understanding of the factors at play.
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I made a post essentially supporting your position, and it was deleted by a moderator. Just thought I'd point that out. Even though this one may be deleted as well.
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July 17, 2012, 2 p.m. CST
Wow. Will be interesting to see how they realize this character - who I've always liked.
by grendel69
Falcon = cool.
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If you go through life viewing everything through the race prism, that's your fault. I was not suggesting that race doesn't matter in everyday life, unfortunately it does come to play even in this day. But in this movie it doesn't or shouldn't exist except in the minds of limited AICN geeks.
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July 17, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST
Ah, the ol' 'well *I'm* black/a woman/gay/'other', and *I* don't see a problem'.
by 3774
http://tinyurl.com/6ufjznz Always a classic. Especially from the anonymity of the internet.
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July 17, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST
^^Arguing on this site is like punching an old lady in a wheelchair who has Alzhiemers.
by parissun
It may be fun for a minute but ultimately a time waster. Okay, I have time, so I'll bite. How does race matter with this annoucement? If they stated the Falcon was being played by Justin Beiber, then you'd have something to say. But this just sounds like the typical AICN need to whine about something.
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The first time I read "The Night Gwen Stacy Died" was from a Marvel Tales reprint. :-)
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There's the rub, guy. I didn't say whether or not I agreed with you. I pointed out that you're using a tired logical fallacy to 'prove yourself right'. It's circular thinking (the Bible is true because the Bible says so, sexism doesn't exist because women participate in it, racism isn't present because I'm Black and don't see it). Try again.
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Please do a variation on the original costume and the new one--but don't give us a crap "Hawkeye" wuss out! Whatever you do! Xavier-
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The Calumny of and Lack of Accountability of Those with a Martyr Complex.
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July 18, 2012, 3:13 a.m. CST
Jesus was definitely the first black superhero, but the first African-AMERICAN was...
by ThulsaBoom
...Jesse Owens. Same powers as Flash. Fought it out against the Nazi's. Jesse Owens. "Run on the track like Jesse Owens, broke the record flowing without any knowing that my wordplay run the 400-meter relay. It's on once I grab the baton from the DJ." -Genius
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July 18, 2012, 3:20 a.m. CST
And their doing the Extremis storyline for IM3, why would it be such a stretch to have Falcon figure out or be granted some scientific bird language interface...
by ThulsaBoom
...I mean we've already got Norse god's and gamma monsters. Their hasn't even been one attempt at anything close to 'reality' since the first Iron Man, and it's been at worst hit and miss, at best, utterly satisfying wonderment. Falcon will be great.
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...needed a question mark somewhere in that last post.
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