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So, The Word On THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Is Out...

Nordling here.

I see THE DARK KNIGHT RISES on Wednesday, as does the Austin crew, but the embargo for reviews has lifted, and those reviews have started to tumble (see what I did there?) in.  As far as spoilers go, the few I've come across are relatively spoiler-free.  I'm most curious of Devin Faraci of Badass Digest's take - he's been mostly critical of the Nolan franchise so far, and it'll be interesting to read whether or not he has issues this time around (he also called INCEPTION the best film of 2010, so he's no Nolan hater, no matter how much his detractors want him to be).  His review isn't up yet, but should be some time today.

In the meantime, here's a spattering of reviews from around the Intertubes:  NOTE: The Hollywood Reporter review contains spoilers.  Proceed at your own risk online today.

Drew McWeeny of Hitfix called THE DARK KNIGHT RISES "A triumph, a victory for all involved, and one of the year's most impressive efforts so far in any genre, on any subject."

Ed Douglas of ComingSoon.net gives THE DARK KNIGHT RISES 8 out of 10 stars, saying that Nolan "figures out a convincing way to wrap everything up in a nice bow, making one feel like he's created a bonafide Batman story in three movies that can stand up on its own merits completely separate from the comics or any previous incarnations."

Todd Gilchrist of indieWire says that THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is "a reminder that superheroes aren’t merely a frivolous distraction, or even a wish-fulfillment fantasy, but an embodiment of our best selves – or at least what we want our best selves to be."

Jim Vejvoda at IGN says "director Christopher Nolan and his team have delivered the grandest, most emotional and superheroic chapter in their Batman saga."

Todd McCarthy at Hollywood Reporter says this is the best Christian Bale has been in the role of the Dark Knight: "Needing to portray both his characters as vulnerable, even perishable, Bale is at his series best in this film. At times in the past his voice seemed too artificially deepened and transformed; there's a bit of that here, but far less, and, ... the actor's nuances increase."

More reviews will likely hit the Internet today, so if you want to stay away from spoilers, you should probably avoid your computer for the next few days.  But the reports, so far, seem very positive and most consider THE DARK KNIGHT RISES to be a rousing finish to Christopher Nolan's iteration of this beloved character.

Nordling, out.  Follow me on Twitter!

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  • July 16, 2012, 8:16 a.m. CST

    eff Letterman...

    by nobunaga209

    oh and first? yup!

  • July 16, 2012, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Oh no can't look like the Paul Dini stuff

    by UltraTron

  • July 16, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Here's hoping for the best

    by spohlso

    I've enjoyed the Nolan stuff so far. I guess I'll find out Friday if I like the way he wraps it up.

  • July 16, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the spoiler alert.

    by Wonderboys

    Yes, in the Todd McCarthy review, right there. Assholes.

  • July 16, 2012, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Does Bane still sound like Darph Nader from Hardware Wars?

    by rev_skarekroe

    Mmmfhmm rmmf fmm fmm!!

  • July 16, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Devin....

    by Splinter

    In fairness to the chap, he did a complete u-turn after piling on Star Trek for a year or so before he saw it. His bile and vitriol for Nolan's Batverse is kind of staggering though. He always reminds me of that kid in school who isn't part of the club/group/craze/team and so rails against it in a completely disproportionate way. The problem he has is that he has derided, snarked, pilloried, lambasted and skewered BB and TDK for....ooooh.....7 odd years now. Even he if absolutely loves TDKR, and frankly, given the reviews, it loks like he'll be totally alone if he doesn't.....will he be big enough to chow down on that giant slice of humble pie and admit it?

  • July 16, 2012, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Seeing this as soon as it comes out

    by Wcwlkr

    I'm excited to see how he wraps this up. Bale toning down the Bat voice isn't a bad thing! I wonder if they even mention the Joker. Just makes it even sadder that Heath Ledger is gone.

  • its spoilerific and farewell to the greatest fairygodmother ever

  • July 16, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    And STILL no Red Dawn trailer update?? basterds.

    by Thomas

  • July 16, 2012, 8:24 a.m. CST

    I'll sooner trust my own eyes than those of a reviewer.

    by cookepuss

    Not saying that I don't trust some reviewers, but far too many are shills, film school dropouts, or outright idiots. We all know that most reviewers are going to get on their knees for some directors or actors. I'd rather make up my own mind instead of listening to those in an industry which felates itself. Ironic since I'm on AICN. ;->

  • July 16, 2012, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Bruce Dies?!!!?! Third rock from the sun becomes nightwing?

    by TheManWhoCan

    that sucks.... that i havent seen it and am talking shite.<p> seriously.. does he die?I bet Caine dies ...worst Alfred ever but would make an impact then again might upset the kids! Freeman dies ,hes sort of a main character so it has an impact but who reaaaalllyy cares cos hes black! Am I right Hollywood moneymen!?

  • July 16, 2012, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Agreed about the poster

    by Dranem

    Sometimes it seems like people try to do too much to incorporate symbolism into Batman art. It would have been a really cool art deco style poster otherwise. Been able to avoid spoilers so far for this (unlike The Avengers which I was pretty much waiting for each scene I had read about) so I just need to last a few more days. After this, I think the only movie I will go out and actually see is the Expendables 2. This is still easily the movie I was looking forward to most this summer.

  • July 16, 2012, 8:32 a.m. CST

    If Bruce dies, Nolan will be Schumaker 2.0 in my eyes.

    by Jason Bartlett

  • July 16, 2012, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Devin has already said on twitter...

    by Frat Boy

    that he didn't really care for TDKR. His review will be up tomorrow, he thinks. I cannot wait. I got midnight tix in a legit IMAX theater. Not much of a night owl though and at a running time of almost 3 hours, I hope I don't get sleepy halfway through.

  • July 16, 2012, 8:33 a.m. CST

    seeing it Friday night cannot fucking wait...

    by Righteous Brother

    just need to stay strong and stay away from spoilers. You can guarantee some gutless little cunt fuckwit will put a spoiler in his subject header here though. So adios until Friday amigos.

  • July 16, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Everyone avoid Hollywood Reporter

    by unparanoid_android

    the douche basically gives a blow-by-blow plot summation (including Bane's last moments). Fucking tool.

  • July 16, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    I'm gonna wait a week or two to see this

    by Autodidact

    Still traumatized from the fuckery by both exhibitor and fellow audience members at TDK. I'll see it at like the first Monday or Tuesday matinee next week.

  • July 16, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Devin is a cunt

    by UGG

    That is all .

  • July 16, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    just seen it at special showing in germany

    by Jaymie69

    not bad,not good but not bad

  • July 16, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    just seen it at special showing in germany

    by Jaymie69

    not bad,not good but not bad

  • July 16, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    just seen it at special showing in germany

    by Jaymie69

    not bad,not good but not bad

  • July 16, 2012, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Will this one be as pathologically overrated as the last two?

    by Scrunchie-Scroochie

    I'm as open-minded as anyone, yet I still can't get my head around the almost universal praise these Nolan films get. I always figured the ridiculous amount of praise that TDK got was mostly because everyone jumped on the Heath Ledger thing, to get in on some sort of wierd group-masturbation self-righteousness circle-jerk. If this film gets equally spunked over, I can only assume it's because Tom Hardy just died in a botched self-asphyxiation wank or something.

  • but it aint. its nolan's take on the bat, and those not in the know take it as gospel so instead of the dark knight, world's greatest detective...we get bats as crime fighting christ figure and where does one go after that? i love how everyone cheered tdk...however, nolan the great missed the whole point of the killing joke anyway...this movie is gonna make a bil gl to dc/wb and geoff johns, trying to reboot into a bats that will fit in the jlu and the dcu

  • July 16, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST

    just seen it at special showing in germany

    by Jaymie69

    not bad,not good but not bad

  • Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with some columnists. If you haven't seen the previous movies, run your column past someone who has so you don't fuck it up for the rest of us. Chris Lackner should be fired!

  • July 16, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Does Harry have his caffeine pills ready?

    by stillsberry

    So he doesn't pull three all nighters and then watch this and complain about it being boring?

  • July 16, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight goes down!! Suck it D.C.!

    by Mike McCutcheon

  • July 16, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    The movie of the year

    by FlyingToupee

  • July 16, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST

    It's a Nolan thing

    by Scrunchie-Scroochie

    It's not just his Batman films - Nolan was also covered from head-to-toe with sycophantic semen because of that fucking Inception film too. And no doubt after giving his fanboy's bollock-sludge a good swish and a gargle, he'll spit out an equally mediocre "Inception 2", inevitably to the sound of a million sweating nerds dredging up another acrid load from their abused, aching nards.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST

    why is the only ammo haters have drenched in gruesome sexual context?

    by zom-bot.com

    there is something wrong with you kids. pick up a thesaurus. learn some adjectives. tell us how you really feel without resorting to talk of ball-gargling and semen. unless you are seriously sexually repressed, ashamed of your sexuality and that's just what is on your mind all the time.

  • Not bad, little girl

  • July 16, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST

    TDKR will beat Avengers' $207m opening weekend

    by Joe

    I'm going for a $250m opening weekend. A final domestic gross of around $700m.

  • Extremely out of character.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    I could care less if TDKR beats the Avengers Box Office

    by Dranem

    I just want it to be a good movie. I loved the Avengers, but damned if I'm not more excited for this movie! TDKR has too much going against it to be this years box office champ anyway. Long runtime means fewer showings, non-3D prices etc. I'm just happy that this year has been so great for comic book movies with not one but 2 blockbusters with totally different approaches. Both will definitely be Bluray purchases for me and I hardly ever buy movies.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST

    I just watched Batman Begins and The Dark Knight back to back...

    by I Hope You Die

    Batman Begins doesn't hold up well on repeat viewings. It feels like it's caught somewhere between The Dark Knight and the old Batman movies. What Nolan did, though, was "reboot" a lot of elements from Begins in Dark Knight. The look of Gotham is different (the monorail gets destroyed in Begins and presumably the Wayne enterprises building with it, removing all the less realistic elements of Gotham's depiction in the first film). He got rid of Katie Holmes (the absolute worst element of Begins). Wayne manor has been destroyed. It feels like a straight sequel while cleverly managing to reject all the hokey elements of the first movie and that's the genius of it: it makes people falsely remember Begins as being better than it was. There's still some fairly stupid stuff in The Dark Knight, though, so I hope he's done the again.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST

    7pm Friday can not get here fast enough.

    by eric haislar

    So excited!

  • July 16, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    yeah I'm a little sick of the fanboy division with TDKR vs Avengers

    by zom-bot.com

    I mean what the fuck? Why do we have to to 'pick a team'? I know comic fans, and they read both DC and Marvel. who GIVVVVVVVVES a shit which takes more box office? bet amongst yourselves if gambling is your thing...otherwise you have nothing to win or lose based on the box office take of two movies that will succeed with or without you and your diatribe. are you guys really so foolish that you have been conditioned to pick a side and hate the other blindly? did you fall for the conditioning of coke and pepsi? republican and democrat? If i liked avengers, I can't like batman? really???

  • July 16, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST

    I just want it to not suck. And not kill off Bruce Wayne.

    by Jason Bartlett

  • A near 3 hour movie won't be able to have as many showings in a day as a 2 hour movie. So it won't break the opening weekend record of set by The Avengers this year. It will likely do 165-175 million over 3 days, I anticipate that cinemas will be flushing out the crap that is in the theaters now and adding TDKR on more screens though. But it's not 3D, and most people (like myself) only intend to see this in IMAX, so that limits it's gross as well. What will happen if that this movie is good, it will have very very very long legs. Hopefully it's not a disappointment. I got my IMAX tix in advance. I'm not a huge fan of the franchise, but it's Batman. I enjoyed Batman Begins more than TDK, but based on trailers, this movie seems to have the action I feel was missing in previous installments. I hope it's good. I don't need it to change my life. I just want a good movie.

  • and still doesn't say just how bad Batman gets fucked up by Bane or how the final showdown ends.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST

    SPOILER ALERT FROM A BLOKE AT SUPERHEROHYPE

    by AxeEmAll

    SPOILER ALERT: John Blake's full name was announced by commisioner Gordon during the last scene as "Richard John Grayson" to the academy of police officers to honor those who died including Blake, as they believed. As he continues to give his honorable speech about what happened to Gotham especially Batman, we see John Blake putting on Catwoman's mask without the ears (it broke as you'll see it as to what happened to Bruce and Selina during the final encounter with Bane), the remaining body armor of Batman in close up view. Then drives the batpod away from the scene into the credits as Gordon finishes his encouraging words. The downside was, it left us audiences in the special screening of TDKR to wonder if Blake is Robin or Nightwing.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Total Film in UK 5* review but 'not as good as The Dark Knight" -

    by Fortunesfool

    Since I thought the Dark Knight was very over-rated those five stars don't mean much. Take it how you will. Empire gave it 5 too.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:37 a.m. CST

    And is The Avengers vs TDKR the new Britney vs Christina?

    by Bruno

    I grew up wanting to see my favorite comic characters come to life, and I didn't think it would ever happen. Now I think most people take it for granted instead of appreciating the fact that studios are even making these movies. We got The Avengers (which was not a perfect film, but it was fun as fuck) and The Amazing Spiderman (which was a fun relaunch that tried to do this correctly this time) and now The Dark Knight Rises (which is closing out a successful trilogy) and people are bitching about every fucking thing. When these movies suck we get shit like Ghostrider. And these three films are nowhere near that. Just enjoy the fucking movies and be fortunate that they are finally making them. And for the most part, making them well.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST

    @b81, you're right. I love many DC and Marvel comics all the same.

    by Jason Bartlett

  • July 16, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Why didn't Batman keep fighting crime the past 8 years?

    by John

    Yeah yeah, he took the fall for Harvey Dent and all that. So what? He could have just written a letter to the editor of a Gotham newspaper explaining that he had a psychotic breakdown that day, but it's back to business as usual for him now. Fuck it, guess he wasn't needed anyway. Pretty implausible that after 8 years Catwoman and Bane would show up for unrelated reasons at the exact same time. These movies are fucking retarded.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:42 a.m. CST

    SPOILER ALERT!!!!! reply to axeemall

    by John

    Sounds extremely gay. Unless they spinoff a new trilogy and he ends up becoming the new Batman over the course of the three movies.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    size

    by eric haislar

    Why don't you wait to see the movie before you start bitching about it. Maybe there are other reasons given about why.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:44 a.m. CST

    erichaislar

    by John

    OK.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:45 a.m. CST

    jaymie69

    by SebastianHaff

    Hey, I was wondering, did you see it at a special showing in Germany? We couldn't tell.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:45 a.m. CST

    b81 you blew it at amazing spidey getting anything right

    by walt

    and call me when nolan actually makes a movie about batman

  • July 16, 2012, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Please no one post any spoilers

    by eric haislar

    Please wait until after the weekend if you have seen it already.

  • he's a troll, but all of you arent?

  • July 16, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST

    waltkovacs

    by Rupee88

    Yes well said

  • July 16, 2012, 9:55 a.m. CST

    I agree with ugg: Devin is a total cunt

    by gruntybear

    An arrogant, thinks-he's-better-than-the-average-geek cunt. I also get the impression that he is one of those nerds who always has to get the last word in, who always has to correct every single little detail that's not exactly perfect, and who has an overriding obsession with "being right." You know - exactly the kind of nerd I walk away from whenever they start up on their high horse about whatever butthurt of the moment happens to occupy their time (see: the ridiculous, constant butthurt over "Promethus," or Devin's current bugaboo: pissing all over anyone who even dares compare "Pacific Rim" to "Neon Genesis Evangelion.") Plus, whoever administers his website should be fired. The site locks up constantly, and has a following of sycophantic dorks, who all think their shit don't stink.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Speaking of badass digest

    by John

    *** POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT BELOW *** That limited edition poster is very interesting when you look closely at it, isn't it.....

  • July 16, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Somebody remember that I noticed it first!!!! :P

    by John

  • July 16, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Heres the real ending! (spoof)

    by Kakii

    This spoof ending is genius! http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a68048c801/dark-knight-rises-ending-leaked?playlist=featured_videos

  • July 16, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    It's worth the money?

    by Kevin

  • July 16, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST

    I want spoilers.

    by Mikey Wood

    I really honestly do. I want to know how it ends because if it ends the way I've READ it ends, I owe a few people money because I lost a bet.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:05 a.m. CST

    watching friday

    by rakesh patel

    early morning showing, no fucking fuckers spoiling my viewing.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    The amount of money a movie makes doesn't mean it's good...

    by nephilim138

    dumb cunts.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST

    because the avengers sucked ass

    by nephilim138

  • July 16, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    i believe that all of you are insane

    by walt

  • July 16, 2012, 10:13 a.m. CST

    What morons

    by Castor Grayson

    Wanting to hate or dislike a movie is for 12 year olds. It's obvious people here want to hate the film. People everywhere else appreciate it or are excited for it. You can dislike Nolan's style if you like, but you can't fault the films and what they've accomplished. With all the crap out there like Battleship, Transformers, GI Joe etc etc etc... attacking these films amazes me. They may not be your 'cup of tea' but, for goodness sake, appreciate them at least.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:13 a.m. CST

    The Avengers was an awesome movie. Shut the fuck up, retard.

    by Jason Bartlett

  • July 16, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST

    nephilim138

    by Dranem

    Case in point being Avatar... In my opinion of course. Perfectly fine day at the movies for me, but I was a little floored that it broke all those records...

  • July 16, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST

    also... "beating Avengers" WHO CARES?

    by Castor Grayson

    I loved Avengers. It was like the comics. The Dark Knight trilogy is like a Batman graphic novel. Tow completely different films in the same genre. I love them both. I must be super-intelligent... or just a normal fucking person.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    *two

    by Castor Grayson

  • July 16, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    castorgrayson what did the films accomplish

    by walt

    im curious. as the movies are based on 20 year old stories. it was those stories that set the tone...not nolan

  • Btw, it's super lame that this Batman barely had a career. How much time passed between BB and TDK? 1 or 2 years? He then spends 8 years away. Comes back, gets his back broken, spends some time away to heal, comes back, defeats Bane and quits again? Seriously? Wow. Very un-obsessive-compulsive crimefighting, very unlike Batman should be.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Waltkovacs

    by Castor Grayson

    I look at these films like I look at the great Batman graphic novels. The ones that aren't 'cannon' but great nonetheless. The stand alone books. Dark Knight Returns, Speeding Bullets, Gotham By Gaslight, Long Halloween, Killing Joke (could be argued that it's cannon but still a stand alone) These books are the artist and writers versions of Batman. The Dark Knight trilogy is Nolans. What have they accomplished? I would say they elevate the "summer movie" above what it has become. When mindless films like Transformers rule the summer and dreadfully cliched and badly executed films like Battleship get funded, a film like Dark Knight stands out. Something with character, originality, a story and something to say. All within the confines of "popcorn entertainment' Wouldn't you say that is something to appreciate? Whether or not you enjoyed the films.

  • Ice winter ice chill cold ice chill cold freeze chill freeze winter ice cold cool ice frost winter ice freezing ice cool freeze. And Akiva Goldsman got paid millions to write that.

  • I hope no one tells me I should have given a spolier alert to the SPOOF ending!!!! just go watch it- it is almost unbelievable, but very well done!!

  • July 16, 2012, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Just until Friday, can we please impose a spoiler free rule on this?

    by Lord Elric

    Because more then once, a movie has been accidentally spoiled merely by going to the page the news article is on. Talk about this, sure, but don't spoil anything until Fri. PLEASE. Many thanks, if so.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST

    If Devin Faraci says he didn't care for it, then it's probably a masterpiece

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    General rule of thumb is to always go with the opposite of what that fat fuck says.

  • CESUS JUCKING FHRIST

  • July 16, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Touche, gettingeven ;)

    by Lord Elric

  • July 16, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    jamam

    by John

    Jack the Ripper is probably a good 'legend' to compare Batman to, and he was only active for ONE year - 1888.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:56 a.m. CST

    You people need to quit being comic book nut-huggers

    by seymour_scagnetti

    Stop insisting filmmakers take them as literally as you do and learn what an adaptation is.

  • It doesn't say how it ends, and it doesn't say if you know who is you know she.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST

    I figured out the "Nolan Twist" in this movie (Potential Spoiler)

    by akumaryuken

    My guess is that Bane is Ra's Al Ghul. He suffered injuries at the end of Batman Begins during the train accident but survived. That is why Bane has spinal scars and needs the anesthetic mask. Liam Neeson's cameo is probably for the "unmasking" scene. I'm not sure how they will account for the height differential (5'9/5'10 Hardy vs 6'4" Neeson).

  • http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a68048c801/dark-knight-rises-ending-leaked?playlist=featured_videos I hope no one tells me I should have given a spolier alert to the SPOOF ending!!!! just go watch it- it is almost unbelievable, but very well done!!

  • July 16, 2012, 11:11 a.m. CST

    jamam

    by John

    You didn't convince me you meant that. Truth is, a legend can be created in a single instant.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST

    kovacs, re: "Nolan missed the point of The Killing Joke"

    by Laserhead

    The point of 'The Killing Joke' is that Alan Moore doesn't understand the Joker. A rote 'deconstruction' that turns a primal force of chaos into 'society's own victim.' The same one-trick Moore's been pulling with other people's characters since he started. That said, if Bruce dies in this, then the whole Nolan-Elseworlds-Franchise can go fuck itself--

  • July 16, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    So WHERE is the Hobbit Comic-Con report?

    by D.Vader

    And what happened with Prometheus at the Con?

  • July 16, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST

    And all the fans as one creamed their shorts in exhilaration...

    by mastermold

    Let's face it: At this point, Nolan could film himself taking a nasty shit in a paper bag, call it The Dark Knight Releases, and everyone would call it a triumph.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Nolanites, horrible creatures. I avoid them where I can.

    by Volllllume3

  • Thats asshole is so vehemently anti-Nolan, he refused to believe people would have given the film a standing ovation last week. You can't trust that guy.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Comparing Avengers and Batman is pointless

    by Tigereyes

    Like comparing oranges to eggs. If anything compare Marvel Production movies to DC/WB movies. Or compare it to Justice League when it comes out. Avengers was an entertaining film. TDKR will also be an entertaining film. END of story.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST

    tigereyes, that's right

    by John

    Or like comparing Dumb and Dumber to Bad Santa, or something. Not that I've seen The Avengers. Actually 'eggs and oranges' was a perfectly fine analogy, I should have just left well enough alone.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Return of the Jedi was also called a triumph when it was released.

    by shane peterson

  • July 16, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Bias against this movie on AICN.

    by Cruizer Dave

    True story. This is the only story on the front page that the headline doesn't end with an exclamation point or two.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Devin just retweeted Armand White....

    by Splinter

    ......to back up his opinion of TDKR. AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA holy jesusballs.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:35 a.m. CST

    nopos

    by eric haislar

    You know those stars are bought and paid for. It cost 40 grand. You want to get Kubrick a star raise 40 grand. Fans just raised money so Adam fucking west could get one. Those stars mean dick.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Alright:

    by worstrobinever

    OK, now I’m excited! Here’s a breakdown of Bane: http://www.cinemabums.com/?p=397

  • July 16, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST

    nopos

    by Laserhead

    Excellent counter-argument; I'd assumed you might be an older poster who actually knew something about the characters and their history. Thanks for clearing that up. Alan Moore isn't a great writer. He's a comic book writer who uses the exact same device to add one layer of dimension to flat, stereotypical characters. Over and over. Come by the comics discussion board here sometime. You could learn something.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Devin gave Spiderman 3 the same score as TDK

    by TheLastCleric

    Back when he was at CHUD. That is all that need be said as far as this man's credibility is concerned.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Wow, it actually sounds worse than the last one.

    by Flip63Hole

    Another emo-broody mess of a Nolan film, where the villains are unrecognizable as Batman villains, and ANOTHER "hey, we're being blatantly topical" storyline. Can't be as obvious as The Overrated One's cell phone triangulation/Patriot Act storyline from The Dark Knight. And please let it be that Gordon Hewitt is actually Joker. That would remove Ledger's ridiculous performance from being attached to the Joker, and Nolan could take credit for creating a new Batman villain: Uninteresting Sloppy Make-up Guy.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:54 a.m. CST

    “This motion picture was shot and finished on film.”

    by Kikstad

    Bravo, Mr. Nolan, bravo.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:55 a.m. CST

    @flip63hole

    by Sequitur

    LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!!! I NEED ATTENTION!!! I WILL HATE UNIVERSALLY LOVED FILMS AND PERFORMANCES TO GET ATTENTION... Oh flip63hole...you contrarian fanboy crap is just that crap.

  • I knew this was happening, I just didn't know it was coming so soon! http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/dark-knight-returns-animation-pics-327898#1

  • July 16, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    flip63hole

    by Mikey Wood

    You're a moron.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Peter Travers

    by eric haislar

    Gave it 3.5 out of 4 http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/reviews/the-dark-knight-rises-20120716

  • July 16, 2012, noon CST

    No Duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh

    by bagwanbob

    No BATMAN! (Figured it had to be said...)

  • July 16, 2012, noon CST

    I think Bruce Wayne "dies" and Batman lives on "forever"

    by crazy4dragons13

  • July 16, 2012, 12:03 p.m. CST

    And, volllllume3...

    by Mikey Wood

    ...you've posted that VERY SAME line "Nolanites, horrible creatures" etc. etc. on juuuuuuust about every single article about this movie. If you're going to troll PUT IN SOME EFFORT

  • July 16, 2012, 12:06 p.m. CST

    New Tom Jane Punisher short. Freaking great!

    by Mandolorian

    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=92571

  • What does it mean if she only weighs the same as an unladen African Swallow? Eh...eh? Think about it.<p> *formerly RedWhiteNegro*

  • They INSIST that all this stuff is "real world" possible. Ummm....no. If a fucking bus crashes out of a building and meets a pack of other buses----on a busy street both ways---there's gonna be a pile up. Movie over.<p> And that's only one. I used to have a whole list.<p> Then I just watched them without the Nolanite baggage and TDN became pretty damn brilliant. It has that kind of *disturbing* vibe of a Romero flick. Plus most of what the Joker says about society and ppl is right. Creepy. He's like Batman's "Jigsaw".<p> I still don't like B-Begins at all.

  • July 16, 2012, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Richard Corliss of Time

    by FlyingToupee

    "The movie may not top The Avengers at the worldwide box office, but it is a far, far better thing — maybe the best, most troubling, assured and enthralling of all the superhero movies. "

  • July 16, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Devin Faraci does not have an open mind

    by D.Vader

    This much is absolutely clear.

  • July 16, 2012, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Block out the ears on the poster.....a tombstone!

    by bobbofatz

    Please dont die Batman

  • July 16, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    nopos

    by eric haislar

    No but WB or someone did. Is it a honor? Sure I guess. But the fact of the matter is you don't earn it. It is bought and paid for.It's just marketing for the movie. It's like real estate the better the location the more expensive.

  • July 16, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    first negative review up

    by Sean

    douche from Hollywood & Fine "magazine" 300+ comments on RT and his Website has crashed! feeel the wrath of the nerds!!!!

  • July 16, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    corliss review

    by ben

    There's some major spoilers in that review - even if some are hidden. We all suspected some, but proceed with caution.

  • July 16, 2012, 12:43 p.m. CST

    gettigeven - the bus escape nearly wrecks the entire brilliant bank heist.

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    The editing and camera work of that scene should be studied by film classes for years to come, as a lesson in economy in storytelling. There is not a wasted moment in that scene. Have a feeling that Nolan's topped it with the mid-air plane escape.

  • July 16, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST

    @mandolorian--THANKS! That was AWESOME!!!!

    by art123guy

  • July 16, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Get secret service to protect Marshall Fine

    by mjgtexas

    Fan-Dorks are giving the Alex Jones drinkers a run for their money.

  • I would actually laugh at that ending so hard I'd die.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST

    MANDOLORIAN! THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!

    by J-Dizzle

    Give Thomas Jane the chance for a reboot. That fucker knows the character!

  • July 16, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST

    That Punisher short was great.

    by eric haislar

    Shame Thomas Jane never got to make the movie he wanted too.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST

    People are bashing Alan Moore now? Dafuk?

    by darthflagg

    The greatest living writer in the entire comics industry? The best comic book movies, including TDK, don't have a tenth of the character depth or intricate plotting of Watcmen, V for Vendetta or From Hell.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST

    i knew jane knew what to do with the punisher

    by walt

    hbo series....NOW

  • July 16, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    That short was great. I've always loved Thomas Jane.

    by notcher

    Hope he has some greater successes in his future career. He's really an untapped talent.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST

    wanna know why jane is underated and underused?

    by walt

    cuz he is a fucking geek...just like us and hollywood doesnt take him seriously saw an interview of him done at the con...he was listing out artists, like we do...geeking as he was saying their names said, "if you are a comic fan, you know who these guys are" and he spit that line out he...like many of us, is just as pissed that the con has been taken over by the suits he is....DARK WHEDON he knows it, he lives it....and he needs this project

  • July 16, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Just happened to see that Punisher short too

    by Steve Lamarre

    then saw your remarks. Fucking sick. Bring Jane back as Frank Castle. Jane is one of the most likable actors around and he deserves a franchise of his own.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Jane would have made a good Jack Reacher

    by Steve Lamarre

    would have been far more believable than that gay scientologist.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST

    How TDKR ends..

    by A Dimension Of Mind

    Wayne nor Batman had better be killed off at the end of this as it'll make for a pretty shitty send off. It's predictable and I expect better from Nolan, don't disappoint me please..

  • July 16, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST

    So Nolan beat the 3rd film curse? Never had a doubt!!

    by atlatl

    Can't wait

  • July 16, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Will not see

    by majortom25

    IF the ending about bruce wayne retiring is true I will not see the movie. I feel that is completely dumb. I am not going to waste my money on something like that.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Waltkovacs, agreed.

    by notcher

    Jane is fucking cool though, not too late for the suits to get smart about him.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST

    What troubles me with all this "Nolanite" crap.......

    by david starling

    .......Is how many people loved the previous two out there, and just want to see the last one, and aren't Nolan "groupies" at all. How do you class them? I have seen some utter childishness on the talkback. I'll see this, and ride above the twats that flame.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Peter Jackson already beat the 'third film curse'

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Yeah, we could quibble about aspects of ROTK but those faults are present in the first two movies, too, and I'm pretty sure TDKR will be far from flawless also, despite what over-enthusiastic bloggers are telling us.

  • These people are insane. I bet they will boycott the site if TDK drops below the Avenger's 92%. I remember a time when I used to dream of getting movies like Spider-man, Avengers, TDK, LOTR, Hobbit, etc. And we are getting them but nerds find a way to whine and complain about them. You'd think the studios were making Meteor Man 3 or Mansquito 2. Many of these movies are good to great. You may not be a fan of The Avengers, Batman or Spider-man but to call any of these movies awful is a out right lie.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST

    I bet that critic was Armond White

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    The guy who thinks Transformers 2 is better than Blade Runner.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    majortom25

    by eric haislar

    Why? This is not the comics. I man doing this night after night could not keep this up no matter how much he wanted to. Think of it like a athlete eventually your body gives out. Bruce does not want to be batman forever he said so in begins and in the dark knight. Once Gotham does not need him any more he always planed on giving it up. I really don't see what the big deal is. If there is no need for batman why be batman? What is batman going to do. Beat up jay walkers? he is only concerned with organized crime and the corrupted bureaucrats making the decisions for everyone else.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Why would anyone care what percentage a movie gets on RT?

    by Turd_Is_Floating_Underneath_The_Gravy

    Fuck! TDKR dropped by 2%! How can I go on?! Fuck! Fuck!!!!

  • July 16, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    As long as it's better than Dark Knight.

    by Baked

    Completely incomprehensible action sequences aside, that opening sequence dialogue is pretty much shit. Heath Ledger did a lot of heavy lifting, and the film falls apart when it's not about serious men discussing serious shit. Batman Begins stretched its arms a lot more and inhabited the world a bit better. There were a lot of iconic memorable moments that felt like Batman mythos (the training in the Far East, the death of the parents, the discovery of the cave, the escape from Arkham). But the trailer for the third movie seems to be about larger action sequences and less real-world tension or high stakes, which can throw this movie off balance. The Joker burning Gotham down was heavy shit. Ra's Al-Ghul driving everyone mad was a big deal. Batman walking away for 8 years and then Bane showing up to make everyone's lives "really unhappy" is just something I'm not feeling. Also...SPOILERS.. ... Seriously, though, Bane takes over the city for a month and a half while Batman trains and then there's a giant fist-fight in the streets between terrorists and the police? What is this, the Jets vs. Sharks rules of gang violence?

  • July 16, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Does anyone know how Rotten tomatoes decides if you

    by eric haislar

    are a legitimate film critic? Sometime it looks like it post reviews from people who have no business reviewing films. Like people with blogs that no one visits.

  • and Armond White: "Nolan's po-faced aesthetic is no match for the elegant fluidity of the camera composition in Green Lantern. TDKR is nihilistic C-grade Low Art pastiche masquerading as Brechtian dramatics" Those two reviews should probably take TDKR down to about 81%. The Nolanoids will be apoplectic with rage. Also, I haven't visited the site, but I'd wager TDKR currently sits at a perfect 10 score on the IMDB and at the very top of its '200 greatest/ highest rated movies ever made' list - and none of these cretins have even seen the film yet, but have already voted for it! Internet criticism and the online community are laughable!

  • July 16, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I'm with what parissun said

    by Chairman_Kaga

    I want Nolan to direct Mansquito 2.

  • I live in a fucking world where I can like BOTH Marvel movies and Batman! Anyone who is trying to say you can't is a fucking douchebag who fell out of a gigantic prostitutes overused vaginal hole. There are going to be negative reviews, and that's fine!

  • July 16, 2012, 2:08 p.m. CST

    baked its knightfall....and that arc sucked

    by walt

    guess nolan is too fuckin stupid to realize that arc, like the death of supes, was a cash grab by dc no one will create new characters for them anymore...so since the mid 90s, everything has been an event btw....jim lee is the korean stan lee....a fuckin whore

  • July 16, 2012, 2:08 p.m. CST

    And Batman retiring is a GOOD idea.

    by notcher

    Why have the story which Nolan isn't going to do continue on? How about doing something NEW like having a hero actually SUCCEED? What a novel idea! I don't get why Batman has to go on like the ending of "Quantum Leap." Been there done that too many fucking times.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST

    turd_ nice Armond impression there

    by Azby

  • July 16, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Who knew the Punisher was in DKR?

    by Chairman_Kaga

    What a stunning spoiler to find out Nolan used Marvel's The Punisher in DKR.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!

    by Wacky Packages

    The reviews here and on rottentomatoes.com are spectacular! JOY JOY JOY!

  • July 16, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSERS

    by joejoedidit

    you fat nerdy idiots will realize one day that nobody cares who is better, Joss Whedon or Nolan, or whether you personally think that a movie like TDK happens to be overrated(which is totally subjective) and maybe, just maybe you guys will get out there and ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIVES.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:19 p.m. CST

    ** SPOILERS **

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Batman sacrifices himself & crashes his Bat with Bane's nuke into a lake - Wreckage found, no body is found. <br> <br> Bruce Wayne dies, but really Bruce does his vanishing act with Selina in tow. <br> <br> Ra's al Ghul (Liam) is seen in a dream only, while Bruce is recovering in prison.<br> <br> Miranda Tate is revealed to be Talia. She stabs Batman while he's fighing Bane.<br> <br> Bane is killed by Selina, saving Batman.<br> <br> Blake is called Robin, but doesn't like the name. He finds the batcave at the end, but never puts on a cowl.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST

    What is with all the "don't read (site), contains spoiler" comments

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    Are the writers of those articles attempting to drum up hits to their sites? Here's a tip - write something worth reading, you'll get more hits than you know what to do with.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    scriptgirl_nipples

    by eric haislar

    Dude really!!!! Harry or someone delete that shit. Didn't people just ask to please not post spoilers.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Only faggots post spoilers.

    by Jason Bartlett

  • July 16, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Why does it say 'Spoiler' ?

    by TheFifthCylon

    There aren't any.

  • There was one critic who gave an absurd, obviously agenda-driven negative review. He said it was just as disappointing as B&R. The review was taken off of RT.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST

    tangcameo

    by WeylandYutani

    thx for the warning... can't say that I read much Post Media. I worked for their former parent company for about 5 years. Great staff, but editorial and management are a bunch of fucking tit bags.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    erichaislar

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    I don't see why you're having such a fit over scriptgirl_nipples' post. Assuming it's accurate, they obeyed the unwritten rule of spoiler posting. They put SPOILERS in all caps surrounded by double asterisks on both sides. That means that their post will contain significant plot details from the movie in question. The beauty of the redesign of this site is that now, you actually have to click on a comment's title to read the comment itself. I found it annoying at first, but in situations like these, its uses become apparent. You didn't have to click on scriptgirl_nipples' post. You chose to. Just because you: A) didn't take the spoiler warning at face value, or B) couldn't help yourself is nobody's fault but your own. End of lesson.

  • July 16, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    by eric haislar

    I tend to read with all post open. It is my fault really. But still there is no need to post that information yet.

  • July 16, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST

    nipple girl

    by ben

    is accurate

  • July 16, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST

    erichaislar

    by Dancingforever

    Eric no offense, but you're a douche. This is a spoiler site, the article eludes to that, this is a talk back on AiCN, the dirtiest place on the interweb, but you want it to be spoiler free. There are a million other places that are, fuck off and go visit them. I hate people like you. I hope my comments don't come off to negative Eric, just trying to help.

  • And everyone will forget about one while the other will be remembered for years. One will be available in the $3.99 bin at Wal-Mart while they'll release remastered versions of the other. Mark my words.

  • And 100% of top critics! Enough said.

  • July 16, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Major Spoiler Alert

    by DarthRazor

    Spoilers Below... Bane defeats Bruce by showing him his parents are still alive and the whole Batman thing was a waste of his life. Bruce shocked by the news immediately gives up being Batman. Commissioner Gordon laying on the ground with a broken back shoots Bane in the mask the mask falls off and familiar looking scars are revealed around Bane's mouth, Bane was the Joker the whole time (with a shaved head and lots of Steroids). Bane and Gordon then die. Bruce goes home with his parents, marries Anne Hathaway blows up the Batcave and everything in it. Pretty cool I guess this is how they got around not having Ledger for the Joker. The End tag is that Thomas Wayne is back in Wayne Manor looking in the mirror and pushes in on the skin on his face, and the skin starts move and bubble...Clayface.

  • July 16, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    So i am a douche for wanting to come here and talk film

    by eric haislar

    I have been on this site for over 10 years. I don't think it's so much to ask to not post spoilers for the most anticipated film of the summer. I mean shit it's not like i am asking for much.

  • July 16, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST

    So i am a douche for wanting to come here and talk film

    by eric haislar

    I have been on this site for over 10 years. I don't think it's so much to ask to not post spoilers for the most anticipated film of the summer. I mean shit it's not like i am asking for much.

  • And about equal to the Avengers, just the polar opposite side of the emotional spectrum. Not a knock, it just is what it is.

  • Prometheus was low 90s, ended up at 73%. The Avengers was high 90's, settled at 92%. The Dark Knight is at 94%, which is more or less what Dark Knight Rises will end up with. Which I guess is nothing to scoff at.

  • I guess the answer lies within the question...

  • July 16, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST

    OMG ITS ALL ABOUT DC VS. MARVEL!

    by Anthony

    Because I've never seen a vagina

  • July 16, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST

    *If* Batman dies at the end.....

    by TheFifthCylon

    ...than this will be WORSE than 'Batman & Robin'. I *HATE* 'Batman & Robin', but at least Schumacher had enough respect for the fans, the character and the franchise to put the toys back in the toybox when he was done. Killing off Batman will be a disrespectful cheap 'stunt' and will sully the film. If Nolan does that, he's entered into cheap gimmick territory and I will damn him.

  • July 16, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Todd McCarthy went insane, I hope he is better soon

    by Anthony Torchia

    it's not a review, it's the whole effing movie I never saw the warning here but stopped reading the HR review half way through. I now know way more than I intended to but I applaud Nolan for going there and forgive Todd for his enthusiasm end of line

  • ...must have been dating Singer and/or Ottman at the time. One of the flat-out craziest, batshit reviews in history: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117930841/

  • July 16, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST

    The movie does certainly sound solid...

    by Dancingforever

    But I never feared it wouldn't be. You know you can't kill Batman so having him fake his death is a nice way around it. The Catwoman killing Bane though, that might be a tough sell.

  • People who post spoilers without warning or post endings that add absolutely nothing to the debate are douche. People who tell others to fuck off just because they disagree with them are the douche. Dancinforever I hope my comments don't come off to negative , just trying to help, although in your case I am afraid all hope is lost. Douche.

  • July 16, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    With all these GLOWING reviews, here's a surprisingly negative one.

    by Jarrete Barnett

    http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_21086945/review-dark-knight-rises-is-disappointing-even-boring Very minimal and insignificant "spoilers", if any.

  • July 16, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Well...

    by ThatEndDown

    At least Nolan's Batman crap will finally be over.

  • July 16, 2012, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Only perfect trilogy before now has been Toy Story. 3 out of 3

    by FreeBeer

  • July 16, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    flynn-lives

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    One problem with your argument: the "douche" in question (scriptgirl_nipples) did indeed post **SPOILER** above her comment. If somebody doesn't want to have the movie's plot points spoiled, then they shouldn't read a post entitled: **SPOILER**. Am I wrong? So who's the bigger douche here? The person who posts clearly labeled spoilers on a thread called, "So, The Word On THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Is Out..." Or the person who reads those spoilers, even though they're clearly labeled, and then whines about it?

  • July 16, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Why Batman disappeared for 8 years...

    by WeylandYutani

    Many argue here that he wouldn't take the fall for Dent, especially for eight years. But, that was only the event that got the ball rolling: Obviously, without seeing the DKR yet, it was clear that Gotham PD are not portrayed as fools, unlike in previous Batman films and TV, instead there are portrayed as competent. Meaning, if the Dark Knight was seen, Gotham SWAT or TAC would descend on the area because he was declared by GPD to be public enemy number one. Not that they would catch Batman per se, he's pretty wily, but it would be hard to do anything other than run with police dogs and helicopters chasing you whenever you showed up. Also, Batman no longer would have unofficial access to crime scenes under Gordon's watch – not even the Commissioner has that kind of power. It could be that Wayne just lost heart when he saw what happened to Dent. It is possible he thought it better to disappear after the loss of life and carnage that occurred in the first two films – I believe Gordon called it "escalation." That is until someone shows up in Gotham, like Bane, who is so brutal he may even rival the Joker. So what Nolan has done makes sense to me. Anyway, my two cents.

  • July 16, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST

    And actually...

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    It was "**SPOILERS** (plural)," not just "**SPOILER** (singular)," so that should be even more of a legitimate warning that plot points would be spelled out.

  • July 16, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST

    weylandyutani

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    Well said.

  • July 16, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Devin Faraci is a fucking joke.

    by UMAGA

    I hope Nolan cuts his dick off.

  • And who the fuck really bashes Toy Story 3? Really.

  • July 16, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    DO NOT READ THE TIME MAGAZINE REVIEW - MAJOR SPOILERS

    by fredwordsmith

    A great review from a critic I respect. But...major, MAJOR point spoiled in the last paragraph and the first comment. I am so furious with myself for reading it. Any self-respecting Batman fan, DO NOT READ IT.

  • July 16, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Im going into lockdown to avoid the spoilers.

    by DrX

    There everywhere. No one can write a review without giving it all away. Fuckers telling you to watch out for the surprise ending etc should be shot. I even got in my car and turned the engine on - they're on my radio talking spoilers! I know know about a character in the film before I could turn it off. Fuckers.

  • Everyone's going "spoiler-happy" all the sudden, even though most of it is probably speculative bullshit, anyway. Better safe than sorry.

  • July 16, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST

    And critics need to learn how to REVIEW films...

    by Jarrete Barnett

    without feeling the necessity to divulge everything about the movie from beginning to end. It basically defeats the purpose of a review if you're willingly ruining the entire experience for your readers... but don't tell them that.

  • July 16, 2012, 5:52 p.m. CST

    nipple girls spoiler may not be true!

    by Kakii

    That ending was posted as a joke by someone who hasnt seen it, other people then copied it like it was fact. I really do hope it is fake as that ending sounds shit and could end up ruining a great film.

  • July 16, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST

    I have mixed feelings on seeing this movie

    by D o o d

    Off course I'll be seeing it, but what a shame it's coming to an end. Then again we can look forward to what Nolan comes up with next. Then there's the question of Warners wanting to continue making money from Batman and so will get another director to make the next Batman. How does someone follow Nolan. see my mixed emotions!

  • July 16, 2012, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Hey drx

    by Cruizer Dave

    I'm with ya. After I found out about the Superman cameo at the end, I felt like the movie was spoiled for me. No more spoilers. Especially the one where Batman adopts an orphan named Richard.

  • July 16, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Ok, so Devin Faraci is receiving faaaar too much attention!

    by Tank Williams

  • Nothing new to see "professional" critics be full of themselves, but they're usually less obvious about being agenda driven like this.

  • July 16, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Hey...Typical hate being spewed..

    by micturatingbenjamin

    The dragon of internet fandom must always feed. It will even consume itself if not given a proper target. I direct those who want to bag on this flick before seeing it to give the full force of their spleen-venting and bile to the thought of the Rock as Lobo, maybe? Or the fact they're giving the 'Man of Steel' a metal shirt. Or, even go out and find /truly/ shitty things to hate on. Because while you might not like DC comics, Batman the character, superhero fiction as a sub-genre of action flicks, or just want to nibble at something because you're bored, there's OBVIOUS shit out there you can be blasting and destroying. Also, I'm gonna do my best to make sure Batman gets a fair shake at the cinema. But Avengers -- damn, that was a FUN movie. This looks like it's going to be an entertaining flick, but more 'serious' and 'final' in tone than Avengers, which has the excitement of a new series. Just saying, trolls and would-be critics, find something really terrible to shit on first. Not everything sucks as bad as Batman and Robin, but something that shitty will come along and all your hilarious observations will be spot-on. I know you want to be the first to find the Jar-Jar in this one -- the first to say it was shit, and not be the fucking guy with all that Jar-Jar merchandise in his house the day after Episode One comes out. But it's not worth spending your energy on. God, I'm old. I'm trying to reason with the internet. Fuck me. Anyway, it's not entertaining to me to hear bitching and complaining because you don't want a movie to exist. I like when you guys tear things a new asshole when they SUCK -- Like Crystal Skull! Or, shit, Battleshit! You could shit all over that pile of shit. Monopoly's going to be a movie, too! Crap on that one! Anyway, save your energy. People who say that Inception was a shitty movie as shorthand for 'overrated' -- ugh, man. Get a new thing on the internet to be. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Bruce Wayne's got to die or fake his own death in this one. Also, the guy who pretty much figured out LOST, has the best theory as to why Wayne dies in this flick. I look forward to seeing this badass flick in IMAX. More Batman is good for me...I'm a big Batman fan. :)

  • July 16, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Remember four years ago when people on AICN said a third Fil

    by BoyNamedSue

  • July 16, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Remember four years ago when guys on AICN said

    by BoyNamedSue

  • July 16, 2012, 7 p.m. CST

    Guys on AICN said 4 years ago don't bother w/a third film

    by BoyNamedSue

    Because it would never be as perfect as TDK. (sorry about the first two failed posts...stupid iPhone).

  • July 16, 2012, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Hey...Typical hate being spewed..

    by micturatingbenjamin

    The dragon of internet fandom must always feed. It will even consume itself if not given a proper target. I direct those who want to bag on this flick before seeing it to give the full force of their spleen-venting and bile to the thought of the Rock as Lobo, maybe? Or the fact they're giving the 'Man of Steel' a metal shirt. Or, even go out and find /truly/ shitty things to hate on. Because while you might not like DC comics, Batman the character, superhero fiction as a sub-genre of action flicks, or just want to nibble at something because you're bored, there's OBVIOUS shit out there you can be blasting and destroying. Also, I'm gonna do my best to make sure Batman gets a fair shake at the cinema. But Avengers -- damn, that was a FUN movie. This looks like it's going to be an entertaining flick, but more 'serious' and 'final' in tone than Avengers, which has the excitement of a new series. Just saying, trolls and would-be critics, find something really terrible to shit on first. Not everything sucks as bad as Batman and Robin, but something that shitty will come along and all your hilarious observations will be spot-on. I know you want to be the first to find the Jar-Jar in this one -- the first to say it was shit, and not be the fucking guy with all that Jar-Jar merchandise in his house the day after Episode One comes out. But it's not worth spending your energy on. God, I'm old. I'm trying to reason with the internet. Fuck me. Anyway, it's not entertaining to me to hear bitching and complaining because you don't want a movie to exist. I like when you guys tear things a new asshole when they SUCK -- Like Crystal Skull! Or, shit, Battleshit! You could shit all over that pile of shit. Monopoly's going to be a movie, too! Crap on that one! Anyway, save your energy. People who say that Inception was a shitty movie as shorthand for 'overrated' -- ugh, man. Get a new thing on the internet to be. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Bruce Wayne's got to die or fake his own death in this one. Also, the guy who pretty much figured out LOST, has the best theory as to why Wayne dies in this flick. I look forward to seeing this badass flick in IMAX. More Batman is good for me...I'm a big Batman fan. :)

  • reminds us that superheroes aren’t merely a frivolous distraction, or even a wish-fulfillment fantasy, but an embodiment of our best selves – or at least what we want our best selves to be.

  • July 16, 2012, 7:14 p.m. CST

    I'll rent it from Netflix someday.

    by cookylamoo

  • July 16, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST

    This person should stop writing...

    by BeatsMe

    "Easily one of the most anticipated movies of the summer, the thought of seeing Christopher Nolan's final step in remodeling Batman for modern day audiences could very well be an overwhelming experience if one doesn't go into it with slightly tempered expectations." That's how NOT to start an "analysis"

  • July 16, 2012, 8:37 p.m. CST

    LOL@DC plants being afraid of negative reviews!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    They also visit a site where spoilers are everywhere and yet still bitch! Nothing to see here, folks. Just the plants whining!

  • July 16, 2012, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Nolan is the master of pretension.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    In that sense, he's like the movie Prometheus. Both are pretending they're fancier than they really are. Nolan shoots every all grim and heavy, giving everything a false sense of intellectual weight. Any discerning, intelligent person can see through the facade. That's not a bad thing, because under all the pretense is an excellent B movie. Just try to look through all the crap and you'll see that cheap little gem in the center.

  • July 16, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST

    *****SPOILER!!!!!*******

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Avengers is a better film.

  • Batman dies at the end of this....end spoiler**

  • July 16, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Nolan steals the end of Wrath of Khan

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Michael Caine even quotes the last lines from Tale of Two Cities. Until I heard that, I wasn't sure that Batman would die, but now I am. BATMAN IS DEAD!!!!

  • July 16, 2012, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Christy Lemire at RT.com panned it

    by brobdingnag

    and currently has 531 Nolan worshiping douche-bags trolling her page. Nolan fans are just like Whedon fans. No matter what they will blindly see any crap they put out and never accept any criticism valid or not.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:57 p.m. CST

    think 'nolan fans' are annoying- try nolan haters.

    by zom-bot.com

    personally, i don't know anyone who worships to the altar of nolan, reviewer or movie buff. but i hear from a bunch of people who hate on him just because there are people that like some of his movies, or because he hasn't made a horrible movie yet. there aremediocre ones and good ones, but he has not had a bomb or a horrible movie. and i'm just a neutral vote. I could give a shit about nolan. but i don't hate him because it's cool to be different.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Ditto Hank Henshaw

    by Soulpt

    He's barely been Batman at all. 1+ year b/w Begins & TDK. Away 8 years...in his prime now less!!! Reappears than gone for good?!? WTF!

  • July 16, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Nolan = Batman Noire'

    by Soulpt

    His whole style to making Batman films has been very European...bring on the reboot!!!

  • Read the truth.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Batman would never stop fighting crime. Nolan doesn't understand Batman.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    He only pretends to. Joss Whedon understood his characters and was more true to them than Nolan.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST

    From the Washington Times review...

    by BizarroJerry

    his is the problem when you’re an exceptional, visionary filmmaker. When you give people something extraordinary, they expect it every time. Anything short of that feels like a letdown.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST

    *SPOILER*!!! Ann Hathaway has a HUGE penis!

    by Mike McCutcheon

  • July 16, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST

    *SPOILER*!!! Ann Hathaway has a HUGE penis!

    by Mike McCutcheon

  • July 16, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST

    *SPOILER*!!! Ann Hathaway has a HUGE penis!

    by Mike McCutcheon

  • July 16, 2012, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Ann Hathaway sure hides that HUGE penis well in that tight leather costume!

    by Queefer Sutherland

    She's what I'm looking forward to the most. I'm hoping to rub one out before they ask me to leave the theater.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Nolan stopped making batman films after BB

    by Tanning Chatum

    Batman Begins was great. I thought it was a pretty decent adaptation of year one, or as good as we could hope for. Then I couldn't wait for TDK, except to be sorely disappointed. IT turns out that Nolan's Batman: Kills people. He sabotaged the train Ra's was on and "didn't save him" which is like cutting brake lines and not saving someone. He killed dent to save a kid, but there was surely a non fatal way out. That's what Batman does, is find the way out. Batman is not by any means a detective. He has no interest in being a detective. He relies almost entirely on tech he does not understand. Batman was ready to quit for love. That's not Batman! Batman would not quit for love! Batman quit after Dent died. That's not who Batman is! Batman is obsessed and prowling the streets, not retiring! Nolan has made movies about a city, borrowing the bat characters to draw attention without being true to them at all. Nolan does not get Batman, and has not made a batman move after begins.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST

    zombot

    by brobdingnag

    "personally, i don't know anyone who worships to the altar of nolan" because you don't want to know or simply aren't paying attention. You think the 531 posters on that negative review who are complaining about a review by someone who HAS seen the film when they haven't isn't a list of Nolan haters?

  • July 16, 2012, 11:03 p.m. CST

    91% at Rotten Tomatoes and dropping fast.

    by david hambre

    Didn't take long for people to take off their Nolan-blinders and witness the true mediocrity of his film-making prowess.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST

    tanningchatum

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Dang good points. Dang good.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Nolan was probably a better director for the Punisher

    by Queefer Sutherland

    He'd have been perfect for that, instead of fucking up Batman.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Dropping fast?

    by SleeplessAtYourMomsHouse

  • July 16, 2012, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Dropping fast?

    by SleeplessAtYourMomsHouse

  • July 16, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST

    TanningChatum

    by Gun Man

    Exactly! The people who think I hate Nolan don't get it -- I don't hate Nolan -- the films are well made -- but I LOVE The Bat Man -- he was my original favorite comic book character from Neal Adam's Dark Detective to Miller's Dark Knight -- but this ain't Batman. He's a fighter, not a detective. Since Batman is not super like other heroes, he relied on his brilliance -- he STUDIED, not just the Martial Arts, but Science -- even in Tim Burton's BAT MAN, he figures out the Joker's Smilex formula -- and MAKES an antidote. Nolan's Blade wanna-be mopes around the city, with an Old Black man as his brain and an old Englishman as his heart. Batman does not quit. He fights crime. MOSTly by being smarter than the bad guys, but when push comes to shove -- he can shove with the best of them. So that's why I don't like TDK -- it's not the Bat Man. I'll see this movie -- friends of mine worked on it -- technically it will be first rate, but I will not CARE what happens to Bat Man, because he's lame. Cool car. Too bad he didn't design it. I hope you knee-jerk reflexive Nolan blowers will at least READ my post, and try to understand why I don't like his Bat Man before you start calling me a cunt. My opinion is mine, and it's as valid as yours. This isn't Batman. It's just Blade or The Punisher in a cape.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:29 p.m. CST

    tanningchatum

    by CodeName

    Exactly! Your points are right on. Batman from the comics (the real Batman) pretty much has a personality disorder where Bruce Wayne is his mask, and he really IS Batman. For Wayne to retire from being Batman just doesn't make sense. It should be the other way around where Batman retires from being Bruce Wayne. Batman is mental, and that's what makes him great in the comics. Nolan makes his Batman more of an afterthought and not the main focus of the story.

  • It will never happen, tho. It's like my dream of Brad Bird making Superman, never gonna happen.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Holy cow, Gun Man. Jinx!

    by CodeName

  • July 16, 2012, 11:42 p.m. CST

    with all due respect, Peter Jackson DID NOT break the trilogy curse

    by LabattsBleu

    Tolkien did. rest assured, if TROK was a shitty book, Jackson would have turned it into an equally shitty movie. I love what Jackson accomplished on the LOTRs, but its not like he was making it up as he went along now...

  • July 16, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST

    labattsbleu - true, but...

    by Queefer Sutherland

    many bad films have been made from good books. Just because Jackson had a good story on which to base his script doesn't mean he was guaranteed to make a good film. That being said, I'm not sure it WAS that great. I became more and more bored with each movie. I couldn't wait for the last one to end. The first film had heart. The next two just had a bunch of battles and Frodo on the rag.

  • July 17, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Faraci is a bigot

    by Sean Houlihan

    Just read his latest post on The Dark Knight Rises. http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/16/batman-fans-lose-their-minds-over-negative-dark-knight-rises-reviews/ I called him out on it, and he dropped the ban hammer on me.

  • July 17, 2012, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Faraci is telling the truth - you guys are mentally ill

    by Queefer Sutherland

    You give fandom a bad name.

  • July 17, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST

    freebeer - I just know it, man. I just know it. I'm that smart.

    by Queefer Sutherland

  • July 17, 2012, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Where do people get this idea that the TTT and ROTK don't have heart?

    by starlesswinter7

    Just because they have more special effects, it doesn't mean the emotion wasn't there. ROTK was incredibly emotional, even to a fault for some people. Theoden's death, the Grey Havens scene, "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you," etc. You can take issue with those scenes, but "no heart" certainly doesn't describe them.

  • July 17, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST

    starlesswinter7 - You have your opinion, I have mine. Fucking live with it.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I'm so sorry if your self-worth is damaged by my not agreeing with you.

  • July 17, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST

    So sorry, have to leave now.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I wish I could stay and continue to enlighten everybody, but I have a life to get back to. I'll return tomorrow to see it anything exciting has happened here, but I doubt it. Just the continuing clown parade, I'm sure.

  • July 17, 2012, 12:37 a.m. CST

    queefer sutherland

    by starlesswinter7

    My self-worth is damaged because I challenged your opinion? You're the one who apparently got upset. Nothing about my post was mean-spirited. I simply offered support to backup my thoughts while you offered some hyperbole.

  • July 17, 2012, 1:31 a.m. CST

    queefer sutherland - well, that is a fair point...

    by LabattsBleu

    Lets just say that Jackson and his wife (and I forget the third person involved) did a tremendous job in adapting the books and obviously the direction... if you were bored with LoTRs, just wait until they turn the Hobbit into three books as is rumored... As a big fan of Tolkien, I'd love to see it...but I can see why it would be stretching things too far and would be perceived as a giant cash grab...

  • July 17, 2012, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Batman is Snake Plissken and Bane is Cuervo Jones

    by lynxpro

    I swear I've seen this film before... And Anne Hathaway obviously had a sex change operation, just as Pam Grier's character did in the original film.

  • July 17, 2012, 2 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the spoilers. I'm 20x less interested now.

    by Larry_Sanders

    I knew they wouldn't top TDK. Mask of the Phantasm is STILL number 1. Then Burton '89...

  • July 17, 2012, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Thanks! But... NO Thanks! Ridin this pony spoiler free!

    by illegal alien vs sexual predator

  • July 17, 2012, 3:13 a.m. CST

    You know a movie is in trouble when...

    by SunTzu77

    Brad Pitt won't even speak to his director on the set of World War Z... LOL. http://www.vulture.com/2012/07/brad-pitt-not-talking-to-world-war-z-director.html

  • July 17, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST

    Didn't Christy Lemire (AP) recommend "Battleship?"

    by SunTzu77

    If I remember correctly... she gave props to that pile of shit... I'm definitely not going to listen to her opinion.

  • July 17, 2012, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Gun & Tatum there is NO definitive Batman

    by chiwrtr72

    I respect your comments but to say crap like Nolan's Batman is the Batman is idiotic. Batman has been around for decades and he has changed depending on the culture/writers/etc. This is a Batman... it's no less Batman then the animated series or Batman89. If you don't like Nolan's Batman that is fine but to pretend there is some Holy Grail definition of Batman is wrong.

  • July 17, 2012, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Is there anyone as annoying as Queefer?

    by chiwrtr72

  • Clearly says spoilers everywhere Eric, after 10 years you should have caught that. Ever wonder how all the crying began? http://moonwolves.wordpress.com/2010/12/25/obituary-aint-it-cool-news/

  • July 17, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Boycott Devin

    by tyler_turden

    I have been guilty of checking out his reviews just to see if they buck against the trend. But enough is enough, I've actually seen this film and for him to give it a negative rating is beyond ludicrous. He is a contrarian arsehole. I'm not going back to his site. Ever.

  • July 17, 2012, 8:18 a.m. CST

    That's not what Batman does!

    by James

    Who gives a hot shit, you quivering ninny? Go play with your Batman action figure and make him do what Batman does, pud!

  • July 17, 2012, 8:27 a.m. CST

    And it continues to drop....84% now on Rotten Tomatoes

    by david hambre

    Don't shoot the messenger.

  • July 17, 2012, 8:46 a.m. CST

    by James

    What kind of mouth breathing, cheese dick chud motherfucker do you have to be to threaten a movie reviewer for not liking your comic book hero movie? If any of you knuckleheads pulled that nonsense, you have to punch yourself in the nuts. Right now. Hard.

  • Where is you God now? As suspected, without a dead actor playing The Joker, the score is now similar to that of Batman Begins (85%). Again, not bad, but not the flawless masterpiece some people want TDK to be.

  • July 17, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Batman would never stop fighting crime.

    by I am_NOTREAL

    Nobody ever told Frank Miller that.

  • YOUR LOCAL THEATER WHEN IT COMES OUT, AND SEE IT!!!!!!!!!! Wonder how many people looked here for the ending , hoping they could get all angry and insulting, screaming WHERE'S THE SPOILER ALERT!!! because they thought they could find out the ending that they didn't want to know about before seeing the movie, but took a look anyway to see how the movie ends? Ahh, fandom - many of you guys do give fandom a bad name ( death threats and all to critics, sheesh)... but I love the entire geek community anyway (except for that one guy, of course), speaking as a lifetime geek. . I hope this movie is a stunning success as a film and as entertainment- looks really solid from the recent previews - I am really looking forward to seeing it!!!!!!!!!

  • July 17, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Fascism: The Blockbuster

    by CuervoJones

  • July 17, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST

    lynxpro

    by CuervoJones

    I am not Bane!

  • Anyone believe antonio_joeblosuphus? Maybe it's just a Batman robot, or someone else dressed as Batman? Does it matter? If true, is it actually a surprise or spoiler? Don't cry for ME, Argentina... cry for your soul for revealing the ending....yawn....zzzzzzzz

  • July 17, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Does Bane = Mitt Romney? It would make sense, right? Right?

    by Michael Lunney

  • July 17, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    mcgootoo...

    by John

    I haven't seen it, but if it's true it's hardly an earth-shattering 'didn't see that coming!' twist that's gonna ruin anyone's enjoyment of the film is it? It's the only satisfyingly dramatic way to end the trilogy, really, and anyone who doesn't already understand this in the back of their mind deserves to get hit with a movie-ruining spoiler.

  • Star Wars > Lord of the Rings Nolan Batman Trilogy > Anything Marvel Top 5 Best Trilogies All-Time: 1. Star Wars (Original) 2. Nolan's Batman 3. Indiana Jones (Raiders - Crusade) 4. Back to the Future 5. Toy Story Iron Man may finish strong for a good solo trilogy. Avengers needs two more movies. And I'd give the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy (not counting the 4th) higher marks than the "Lord of the Rings."

  • July 17, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST

    One Spoiler > shelling out 15 bucks to see pretentious movie.

    by cookylamoo

  • July 17, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Word of mouth on ASM is Meh.

    by SergeantStedenko

    It dropped like a giant turd it's second week. TDKR will erase it from our memories this upcoming weekend.

  • July 17, 2012, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Nonsense...ASM was a fun, entertaining flick...

    by Ultron ver 2.0

    I'm sure DKR will be good, but as another poster mentioned here, it will have all the fun of a 3 hour divorce deposition.

  • July 17, 2012, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Reviews Shmeviews - Only that matters is...

    by cromulent

    How much the toys, merchandise, and DVD/Blurays will make.

  • When movies like Prometheus, Amazing Spider-man and Bad Teacher get praised by critics, you know their words mean nothing.

  • July 17, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    86% and rising fast!

    by cowsaysmoo

  • July 17, 2012, 2:02 p.m. CST

    devin faraci is schticking it up

    by ben

    Do your best schtick coma you nobody. A 12 year old probably told him to go ride the baloney pony and all of a sudden he needs secret service protection from the 117 people who accidentally found his blog site. Go wash your vagina you girl! Oh no I just threatened Devin Faraci, better call seal team 6 queermo.

  • July 17, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Agreed. Faracui is a charmless Wookiee in disguise..

    by Dan

    and Lord of the Cock Rings sucks... we got that... all true...

  • July 17, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    MAN OF STEEL THEME LEAKED!!!

    by REMcycle

    Thank me later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe33gdWPxc

  • But, on the other hand- times have changed during the last 20 years, and now anyone who types thinks they are a critic I understand what you are saying, but disagreeing with a critic does not necessarily invalidate their opinion - think about it, have you ever seen a film that you didn't like, only to come to appreciate it, and vice versa?

  • July 17, 2012, 2:24 p.m. CST

    benjamin74 - huh? is what you wrote supposed to make sense?

    by Michael Lunney

  • July 17, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Faraci has balls.

    by Volllllume3

  • July 17, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo, I was always been a big fan of film criticism

    by SergeantStedenko

    I remember watching Siskel and Ebert's At the Movies religiously as a kid. I used to read every movie review in all my local papers. Now, I can barely get through a movie review. You're right, everybody with a computer and access to the internet is writing a review these days. Rotten Tomatoes' Tomatometer is pointless since nobody knows who 95% of these people are. And so many reviews seem bought. Harry gets criticized for selling out his reviews and while I don't think that is totally true, I do believe that special treatment by the Studios, including fun Swag or Pwesents, does have to have a positive impact on your experience when watching a movie. And the possibility of being cut off from that if you write something negative also must be in the back of the minds of these "critics" when they are writing a review and can mean the difference between a flat out negative review and a half-hearted faint praise review. I see this in Harry's writing all the time. I guess I should just stop looking at the Tomatoemeter and only read the reviews of the critics I trust. Also, I think that there has been a huge lowering of the bar for standards of what constitutes a good movie overall, but that's a whole other can of worms.

  • July 17, 2012, 3:35 p.m. CST

    There is one specific reason why Devin is a shit:

    by TheLastCleric

    He can slander the Nolan Bat films and suckle the Rami teat until both parties turn blue but the unmitigated shit he wrote shortly after Ledger’s death is unforgivable and the man deserves to have his bloated ass handed to him for it. It’s one thing to have an agenda against these films (which is evident) but to denounce and marginalize the widespread grief at Ledger’s passing makes him one of the most horrible human beings to ever shit up the Internet. It was a cunt move by a fucking nobody and were I related to Ledger I’d have tracked fat boy down and had a “discussion.” By the way, I am referring to an article that he wrote over at CHUD years back. It was grotesquely nasty.

  • July 17, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST

    all of the negative reviews call it "bloated"

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    at 2 hours and 45 minutes. If you don't like the movie then yeah, you're going to think this is too long. I do think that sounds a bit on the long side, I would prefer 2 1/2 hours. But then many of the positive reviews are VERY positive

  • July 17, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Now Devin is like Jesus

    by Pipple

    Being crucified for man's sins...

  • July 17, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST

    I would have like TDK to have been more "bloated"

    by SergeantStedenko

    I could have used another 30 minutes to develop Two-Face a little more. That is my only criticism of TDK. Oh, and I wish they kept Katie Holmes as Rachel, as terrible as she was, just for the continuity.

  • July 17, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST

    87% and rising

    by F This

  • July 17, 2012, 3:56 p.m. CST

    IMO Devin Faraci is a fucking loser-ass piece of shit

    by F This

    I disagree with him on the Bat films, but whatever, those are just opinions. That fucker came off as such an arrogant, cocksucking prick in the CHUD days that I won't even view his current site. What a piece of work. I can't believe Harry ever even let that disgusting SOB write some articles for this site. In summation, fuck that guy.

  • July 17, 2012, 4 p.m. CST

    Why reviews don't really matter for this one

    by SergeantStedenko

    Nolan has earned our respect and trust with the previous two films. If you didn't like those movies, than the odds are you aren't going to like this one either. Everyone who enjoyed Batman Begins and TDK is going to see this to see how the series ends. And no negative review from someone just trying to get attention by being a contrarian is going to prevent that.

  • July 17, 2012, 4:10 p.m. CST

    It's gonna rock!

    by cowsaysmoo

    It's Batman folks! The best he's ever been portrayed on film. That much is certain. Enjoy it nerds!!!

  • July 17, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo, I don't have a problem with opinions that differ from mine, at all

    by SergeantStedenko

    Roger Ebert famously trashed Blue Velvet, one of my all time faves, back in the day. Of course he has since come around to my way of thinking on it. But, the problem I have with film criticism in general is that for the most part the quality standards for movies have been lowered so much and most critics, Ebert included, seem to have moved lock step in line with them. I realize that this calls into question what standards am I using to make this generalized judgment call. My own?

  • July 17, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST

    sergeantstedenko - well said, my friend....well said...

    by Michael Lunney

  • July 17, 2012, 4:42 p.m. CST

    nolan's take on the bat sucks

    by walt

    batman is not jesus christ for that matter, neither is superman someday, someone will make a movie about the world's greatest detective

  • July 17, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Waltkovacs

    by cowsaysmoo

    Sherlock Holmes?

  • Even though I have enjoyed Nolan's vision of Batman, I would love to see the next live-action film go wildly in the opposite direction - anyone else up for science fiction Batman film, a film with Bat-Mite and Ace, The Bat-Hound?!!

  • In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so.

  • In a day and age where anyone with a fucking internet connection and a collection of bad B movies and Godzilla toys can label themselves as qualified to critique a film...your opinion is just as valid; maybe more so.

  • Roger Ebert's commentary on one of the Citizen Kane DVD releases is like taking a Master class in that film- his insights are remarkable, and they enhanced what I consider the best film ever made with detail after detail, and I have seen the fiolm numerous times before hearing his commentary I don't consider most internet blogger film criticism to be as valuable. Sometimes fun, hardly ever valuable. If you limit your intake of film criticism to only the internet, well, then, I can see why you dismiss it so readily.

  • stargrove - sorry to disagree- but superior, intelligent film criticism, designed to keep people from wasting their time on the *average piece of junk* [shitty films], will always be more meaningful than those shitty time wasting films Because they saved you time, and money. Ya gotta trust some opinions, some of the time. Too many movies, so little time..... It wasn't always this way kids.....

  • Most people and movie critics don't have the greatest taste in movies. If you did you'd realize that Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were remarkably well written. Especially The Dark Knight.

  • July 17, 2012, 6:46 p.m. CST

    thewire82 - most people don't even know what subtext means, so yeah.....

    by Michael Lunney

  • ZING!

  • Good scripts, both with big problems. Both suffer from huge gaps of logic, leaden exposition, and clunkly third acts. See Gordon's final monologue in THE DARK KNIGHT- the final scene of the movie, no less- as an example of just plain bad writing.

  • July 17, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Anyone here doing the whole Dark Knight marathon?

    by DoctorWho?

    I love Bats too but jeezus...

  • July 17, 2012, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Critics in some cases..

    by Kakii

    actually write bad reviews of big films that are getting amazing reviews to basically get a larger internet presence, its called link baiting and its used to gain more natural links to their site in order to appear higher in search engines. Then there are other who just do it to try and look cool, controversial and rebellious, they tend to end up looking like bell ends. Both the above also crave the fame of it too. On the other scale you get those writing glowing reviews because if they don't the studio will stop inviting them to screenings or give them really cool collectibles which are also used to get said reviewer or site to up the hype. Its pretty much the same with most reviewers of any big media products. Now that isn't putting everyone in one of 2 boats, there are reviewers out there with a genuine passion for what they do and they give honest opinions and try to resist the temptation of ruining their integrity. So if you really want to make a stand against the bad reviewers, don't comment on their sites or put a link to them, they're like spoiled children so just ignore them, like they say "the only bad press, is no press!"

  • July 17, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST

    harryknowlessoldout

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Sorry man, I know I'm confusing. I just pretended to turn anti-Noland because of the fervency of the Nolan dweebs here. Personally, I don't give a fuck about canon and remaining all that faithful to a character. I just want a good movie. Nolan's Batman is the best Batman we've been given by far. I like Avengers and Batman, Whedon and Nolan. I think there's room for both. Plenty of room. They compliment each other. One's weakness is the other's strength. But when people start getting WAY too fervent about their Nolan and their Batman, I feel the need to push some buttons. I hope that clarifies everything.

  • Reading them or, watching them in some cases, are incapable of capturing how a movies aesthetics and characters are going to affect your own personal sensibilities. I can not emphasize enough how ones own personality, beliefs and emotions determine whether a story, its design or the characters that inhabit the universe created will ultimately form a favorable connection between the viewer and movie. I do agree that sometimes a critic does in fact get it right but, you can never be absolutely sure until you have personally seen the movie for yourself. I mean, in specific cases, is a negative review from a trusted critic going to be able to keep you away from a movie you have been highly anticipating for months on end? Excuse my rambling but one final thought... IMO critics have less sway over audiences now than at any time before. I guess you could thank the internet for that. Now, everybody has an opinion and a megaphone to amplify it across the world. I'd say it's word of mouth and sheer mega scale viral marketing that has more of an impact on attendance at the B.O. than mainstream critics' judgments ...positive or negative

  • July 17, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Batman marathon?

    by Ted Knight

    Does that include every feature length bat flick release since West and Ward? If so, then ABSOLUTELY!

  • CONFIRMED---Batman dies in the end of TDKR....http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/david-letterman-spoils-dark-knight-rises-hathaway-batman-349012

  • CONFIRMED---Batman dies in the end of TDKR....http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/david-letterman-spoils-dark-knight-rises-hathaway-batman-349012

  • CONFIRMED---Batman dies in the end of TDKR....http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/david-letterman-spoils-dark-knight-rises-hathaway-batman-349012

  • July 17, 2012, 9:06 p.m. CST

    stargrove I disagree

    by Kakii

    The amount of people I know who'll say "what do you mean its shit its had good reviews" or "Empire said its no good and only gave it 1 star" How many times do you see film critics quotes are on posters, adverts and the covers of DVD/Blu Rays? Especially when its big names like Empire, The New York Times or even Aintitcool. The general public do pay attention to these things or marketers wouldn't be using them. People search all the time for sites that review things from films to mobile phones, reviews can make or break things at times and a glowing review of a film will put more bums on seats. I do agree word of mouth is the number one way of marketing anything, so if the word of mouth becomes "yeah but IGN said its awesome" that has an effect. Just look at the hype that was whipped up by the Tweets coming from The Avengers premiere , that had a huge impact and made it the 3rd biggest money making movie, that is a type of word of mouth, but isn't that also coming from critics? To film fans and fanatics like yourself, me and others on here, we have learned that critics talk shit etc, but we are in a minority so this type of marketing is still effective and will no doubt always be there to a degree.

  • As far as reviews effecting business, I just don't see it as being able to overcome pre-release for months (sometimes years!) of marketing hype. After all, look at the Transformers and Twilight B.O. numbers. Those are routinely raked across the coals mercilessly and have seemingly no effect on attendance. It's all about age demos at this juncture and kids, teens and young adults are the ones predominantly filling movie studio coffers with all that dough. You mentioned twitter and I whole heartedly agree that social networking is as big a factor as any for spreading the excitement. For the discriminating mature viewer however, I will concede that reviews will have more of an impact on the decision to watch something, but these kids stampeding to theaters are just looking for a way to be a part of a media manufactured "event".

  • July 17, 2012, 9:59 p.m. CST

    I'm still feeling the Prometheus burn.

    by Ted Knight

    It's one of the myriad reasons I'm starting to become a jaded cynic about the state of movies nowadays. Watched Altered States and Outland on blu-ray over the weekend and was able to temper my bitterness ...temporarily

  • July 17, 2012, 11:10 p.m. CST

    stargrove good points

    by Kakii

    However theyve now got the tv spot trailers with quotes from critics. If a film is getting bad reviews they normally search all media to find someone who did like it and in some cases take quotes out of context. Big summer blockbusters tend to always do well and the hype beforehand is an important factor i agree. There are some cases were people dont listen or understand that a film like transformers will get a bad review from more serious critics, however in the UK most people will read tabloid or the free local paper reviews etc which wont be as harsh as other more well known sources. So it maybe that marketing is slightly different per country, i am only going off my experiances from the UK. As for some films like the twighlight ones, they haveca huge blind fanbase that will go see all the movies even if 1,2 or all of them turn out garbage. Worst case being those who still blindly go to each installment of the resident evil franchise in pure blind hope that one day a good movie will be made lol

  • July 17, 2012, 11:11 p.m. CST

    How did you see it in Argentina?

    by Chairman_Kaga

    It's not released until the 26th.

  • It was always Nolan's interpretation of Batman. His Batman was never a detective. His Batman always seemed to be willing to give up crime-fighting if given the opportunity. No batcave, at least not the traditional concept. No batmobile, no bat-a-rangs (there were some bat-knives, though), nothing that truly hinted he was obsessed with bat imagery. I get why so many people liked his Batman. It's a cool Elseworlds version. It was a necessary move to undo the damage done by Schumacher's Batman & Robin. In a perfect world, the next one, a JLA-compatible Batman, should be more to my liking, but it's WB we are talking about. They'll find the way to muck it up.

  • July 17, 2012, 11:47 p.m. CST

    antonio_joeblosuphus

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Spit the dick out of your mouth and get over it! Batman still lives, just not in this movie. And it's JUST a movie, you pathetic motherfucker. God, I can't believe people invest SO MUCH in fictional characters. It's mental illness, folks. If you're that upset, YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL. Got it?

  • July 18, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Agreed.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I apologize.

  • July 18, 2012, 1 a.m. CST

    Queefer Sutherland

    by CodeName

    Man, one day, bro.. we'll get a good Batman. One day. Don't know why talkback hates you, but your points are valid.

  • July 18, 2012, 1:29 a.m. CST

    harryknowlessoldout

    by CodeName

    Okay, leave me out of this ancient curse, then. All I really want to know is this: Can Batman move his head left to right this time? If Nolan kills Batman off in this last movie, then... is Nolan saying that his Queen (of England) is the supreme ruler of all and America is a second tier little brother who has fallen, or is Nolan trying to send a real message out to the world in hopes of taking down the Illuminati?

  • July 18, 2012, 1:36 a.m. CST

    The dark knight rises, but which one?

    by CodeName

  • July 18, 2012, 9:02 a.m. CST

    harryknowlessoldout

    by Tanning Chatum

    I'm not that familiar with queefer buy you are seeming much more like a douche at the moment. The people who bitch about remakes need to stfu. Most of the remakes they complain about are not even remakes. They just have a stupid kneejerk reaction if something has the same name. Girl with dragon tattoo for example is not a remake, yet people would not shut up about it. Total Recall is not a remake, but a different adaptation of the source material. Better actors, a much more serious take etc. Remake can mean reimagining, i.e. an original take on material. It's not always a bad thing.

  • July 18, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST

    RT monitoring and incorrect meter

    by iluvsyfy

    Read last night that the RT staff were not going to allow posting by non-critics till Friday because of threats against reviwers, lol, sad but funny. They also need to police their own tomatoe scoring, because I noticed that two reviews that were given rotten status, were actually B- and 2.5/4, which percentage wise is 80 and 62.5%, so those two should actually be labeled as fresh not rotten.

  • July 18, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Queefer's a very angry person

    by James

    some of us care about you, Queefer. Batman cares about you.

  • July 18, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Rex Reed of the New York Observer just annihilated this movie.

    by david hambre

    Holy crap! http://observer.com/2012/07/the-dark-knight-rex-reed-christian-bale-michael-caine-christopher-nolan/

  • July 18, 2012, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Rex Reed..

    by film11

    ...is irrelevant and always has been. He should be reviewing Broadway shows and not film. He HATES all genre films...horror, SF, fantasy, etc. etc. The more Reed tears apart a film, the better that movie actually is. (You can take that to the bank!) Going by him, that means that DKR might be close to a masterpiece. I'd only be worried if he liked the film. Since he doesn't, I'm MUCH more optimistic.

  • July 18, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Another RT booboo

    by iluvsyfy

    RT has JR Jones review as Rotten, but when you read his review h gives it 4.2/5 stars. Something is rotten at RT. Thats three improper labels. One review had B- which is 80% and another 2.5/4 which means 62%, so those editors at RT need to get with it.

  • July 18, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Let's stop all this bickering...

    by Daniel Caputi

    And watching something that we ALL can agree is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYiMcInuyWc&list=HL1342641229&feature=mh_lolz Blee dat, playa.

  • July 18, 2012, 2:56 p.m. CST

    aremisslake, I love you, man. Queefer isn't me.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    Folks, my teenage nephew often stays with me, and uses my computer, and sometimes posts under my ID on AICN. He is the one who has been posting here. I am the one who posted the apology. I just discovered his recent posts on the Walking Dead talkback, too. I actually haven't read the comics. I shall suggest to his mother that he receive some counseling. Anyway, I knew he would whip up some trouble, but I've never really monitored him that much. My standing here isn't all that important to me. But I think I'll have to put his time here under my name to rest. He's had a tough life, so I cut him some slack, but still... So watch for a new and improved Queefer in the future, though I'm sure some people will keep hating me. That's OK. Lots of people like me in real life. I don't need to be liked here. Of course, I freely admit to being a Jeckyl and Hyde here at times, but I think you'll see personal attacks going away, unless somebody really pisses me off or attacks me first. The worst stuff posted under my name has been my rascally nephew, and I'm banning him from now on.

  • July 18, 2012, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Saw it tonight

    by donjam

    In Imax. Nary a nit to pick. The ending is just plain glorious.

  • July 19, 2012, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Rex Reed is a racist

    by James

  • July 19, 2012, 2:04 a.m. CST

    If Total Recall isn't a remake

    by James

    then how come it's not called *We Can Remember It for You Wholesale*?

  • July 31, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Love That Poster

    by foochuck

    Anyone know where I can order a print? Tweet @foochuck - thanks!