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Herc’s Sunday TV Talkback!! The Plot Thickens On Aaron Sorkin’s THE NEWSROOM!! Plus New BIG BROTHER, WEEDS, TRUE BLOOD, FALLING SKIES And HOARDING!! Also The Premieres of BREAKING BAD, BLACK DYNAMITE, LEVERAGE, SMALL TOWN SECURITY And STRANGE SEX!!

 

Tonight’s “The Newsroom” is tied to last week’s as it jumps ahead three months to New Year’s Eve. I think Hope Davis is in this one.

 

Premiering tonight:


Black Dynamite
(11:30pm CN)


Breaking Bad (10pm AMC)


Leverage (8pm TNT)


Political Animals (10pm USA)


Small Town Security (11pm AMC)


Strange Sex (10pm TLC)

 

TNT’s “Falling Skies” leveled off in the key demo last week, and TNT just ordered a third season.

HBO’s “The Newsroom,” also renewed for another season, rebounded with its Tea Party episode.

Sundays May 13-July 8, 2012
(Adults 18-49; repeats in gray; older weeks in parentheses)
2.6 (2.6) (2.6) (2.6) (2.9) (---) (---) (---) (---) True Blood
1.8 (1.4) (---) (1.7) (1.5) (1.8) (---) (2.6) (2.4) Family Guy
1.5 (1.2) (0.9) (---) (1.5) (1.5) (---) (---) (---) Extreme Makeover WLE
1.5 (1.2) (1.1) (---) (1.5) (1.5) (---) (---) (---) Secret Millionaire
1.4 (1.4) (1.3) (1.2) (1.0) (---) (0.9) (1.5) (---) Keeping/Kardashians
1.3 (1.4) (---) (1.3) (1.3) (1.3) (---) (2.1) (1.9) The Simpsons
1.2 (1.2) (1.3) (1.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Falling Skies
1.2 (1.1) (1.4) (1.3) (1.1) (1.2) (---) (1.3) (1.2) Real Housewives NJ
1.1 (0.9) (1.0) (---) (---) (---) (1.0) (0.8) (0.9) Army Wives
1.1 (---) (1.2) (---) (1.2) (1.0) (0.6) (---) (0.7) Dateline
1.0 (1.1) (1.0) (---) (1.1) (1.2) (0.8) (1.5) (1.6) AFH Videos
1.0 (---) (1.2) (---) (1.5) (---) (0.9) (1.0) (---) America’s Got Talent
0.9 (0.7) (1.0) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) The Newsroom
0.9 (1.2) (1.0) (1.0) (1.1) (1.4) (0.7) (1.5) (1.2) 60 Minutes
0.9 (0.5) (0.7) (0.6) (0.6) (---) (---) (---) (---) Storage Hunters
0.8 (0.8) (0.8) (1.0) (1.0) (0.9) (---) (1.3) (1.3) Cleveland Show
0.8 (0.6) (0.6) (0.7) (0.7) (0.8) (---) (---) (---) Drop Dead Diva
0.8 (0.8) (0.9) (0.7) (---) (0.8) (0.6) (---) (---) Food Network Star
0.8 (0.5) (0.7) (0.6) (0.8) (0.9) (---) (---) (---) The Glades
0.8 (---) (0.7) (0.9) (0.7) (1.0) (---) (---) (---) Ice Road Truckers
0.8 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Talking Dead
0.7 (1.4) (0.7) (1.5) (1.3) (1.5) (---) (---) (2.0) American Dad
0.7 (0.5) (0.7) (0.7) (0.9) (0.8) (---) (---) (---) Longmire
0.7 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Sunday Best
0.6 (0.6) (0.6) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) The Great Escape
0.6 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Hoarding
0.6 (0.7) (0.5) (0.6) (---) (---) (0.5) (0.5) (---) Mrs. Eastwood
0.6 (---) (0.7) (0.8) (---) (---) (---) (0.7) (---) Watch What Happens
0.5 (0.4) (0.5) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Call of Wildman
0.5 (---) (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Gator Boys
0.5 (0.5) (0.6) (0.5) (---) (0.6) (0.5) (---) (---) The Good Wife
0.5 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (0.4) (---) (---) Iron Chef
0.5 (0.7) (0.9) (0.8) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) The Mentalist
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Big Ang
0.4 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Shark Wranglers

0.3 (0.2) (0.5) (0.3) (0.3) (---) (0.4) (0.6) (0.6) Mob Wives
0.3 (0.4) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Weeds
0.2 (0.2) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Episodes
0.2 (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (0.3) (0.2) (---) (---) (---) Oprah’s Next Chapter
0.1 (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) (---) Oprah Builds Network

 

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  • July 15, 2012, 6:12 a.m. CST

    Newsroom just keeps getting better and better

    by Michael Lunney

  • July 15, 2012, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Newsroom

    by Waspo

    They really need a strong drama to pair the show with because pairing it with True Blood, which gets fantastic ratings isn't doing it justice because the demo for the two shows have very little overlap. Pair next season with Boardwalk Empire and you would get a nice dynamic mix and flow. As for the show itself, I know Herc isn't too fond of the show, but I've enjoyed all the aired episodes thus far, and Herc your criticism of Mac messing up the Email situation, in context of all that was happening, was an easy mistake. If you don't think so, I get emails meant for a co-worker all the time because we have the same first and last name, and no one is smart enough to realize that guy has a middle inital of E and I don't... So, yes mistakes like that commonly happen even at the corporate level.

  • EEEGGGGGGSSSSSSSS THEY SHOT EEEGGGGGGSSSSSS!

  • July 15, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    I'm so liberal I make Dennis Kucinich look like Strom Thurmondrom T

    by MrEkoLetMeLive

    And even *I* think "Newsroom" looks like a bunch of liberal soapboxing. Is it actually any good, or is it just a vehicle for Sorkin's political views to be shoved down my throat which probably already agrees with most of them?

  • July 15, 2012, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Wow. I should really check my subject lines before I post.

    by MrEkoLetMeLive

  • July 15, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST

    good news for falling skies.

    by rakesh patel

    a show of faith like that will hopefully lead the creative team to escalate the progress made this season. Enjoying the news room but maggie and don on off bullshit is starting to grate a tad. the panic attack scene on the rooftop. yeah that kinda bugged me as well. longmire is starting to grow on me.

  • July 15, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST

    I'm loving Newsroom

    by Bass Ackwards

    Given everything I read about it, Sorkin getting to platform his political bent, taking place in the past to recycle old news, immediate workplace will they/won't they, I thought I was going to hate it, or at the least, modestly enjoy it but get frustrated by glaring faults (like Studio 60). But I just wholeheartedly love the show, 3 episodes in and it has totally won me over, glad to see Sorkin back!

  • July 15, 2012, 9:28 a.m. CST

    I'm loving it too

    by theGoldbergV

    haters gonna hate but I think its some of Sorkin's best TV work since West Wing season 2.

  • July 15, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Newsroom

    by goodforyou

    Character development is helping the show. I liked the tea party episode last week. The show is full of liberal propaganda, but the Tea Party needs to be exposed. Any group that votes for individuals (Herman Cain, the witch from the northeast, Palin, etc) who are so obviously intellectually detached to the issues of the world should get hammered. My guess is that the same critical eye will not be used on the occupy wall street movement. Again, making the premise of the show laughable. Much like the tea party, it also started out in the right direction but quickly turned into something else. Others who post about this show will say, "you are looking at a small insignificant part of the show and making it more than what it is" or "It's just a television show, I don't even pay attention to the politics of ths show". This is code for saying we love this show because they spout our views back to us verbatim, but we will act like we don't even recognize the liberal bias because to do so would force us to recognize the true flaw of the show. Extreme analogy here, but I will make it anway. It would be like writing a scripted drama about a television station wanting to produce a story about the life of Adolph Hitler. But in doing so, they choose to use Mein Kampf as the source for the show. It's one side of the story but is it necessarily THE STORY? Nazi sympathizers would love it and call others who criticize it jew lovers, etc. The rest of the world would see it for what it is, biased and one side of the story.

  • I wish more people got their news from non-SNL sources. You guys do realize you are victims of the "straw man" fallacy, right? If not, you'll realize this when you get older, and feel pretty stupid.

  • July 15, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST

    The Tea Party doesn't know what it wants...

    by Andrew Coleman

    Just read interviews from them. At one second they want small government... But then want abortion and gay marriage banned across the nation(not small government). Then they want companies to do whatever they want... That is until whatever they want leads to no jobs in the US... They simply just yell things, get easily tricked into rallying over something... Then switch gears a week later. The Tea Party is frankly made up of older white people from the middle of the country that are really scared about the direction the country is going whether that be politically or ethnically. They are almost all misguided. Anyway Newsroom rules. If you can't handle the topics or the points maybe you should take a step back and stop being a baby. Longmire is also a great show that people should check out.

  • Most TV shows, and even movies, do not have great endings to their stories-A great TV story must have a great ending, to keep you wanting more.... and to actually be a story. Most movies and TV episodes just STOP, rather than have a true story end, which informs all that you have seen before it. The first episode of Newsroom had a brilliant, emotional ending that made me say out loud--- YES!!!!! And I was hooked - Sorkin is one of the best writers we have, and it is a pleasure watching his work unfold....

  • July 15, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    The tea party is pure astroturf

    by k88dad

    The tea party is nothing more than rich men playing puppet master. It will likely come back to bite the Republican establishment in the ass. The Neocons started the long, slow slide to oblivion, and the tea party is greasing the skids. Am I the only one who remembers a proud and moderate GOP? The party of fiscal conservatism? That's gone. Republicans have spent more than Democrats for decades now. Obama reality check: taxes lower, stock market steadily up, spending growing slower than under recent presidents, oil production up, extricating ourselves from two unfunded wars, safe for four years, healthcare cost issue actually addressed, gay rights seen as human rights. That's a record to run on.

  • what * but quickly turned into something else.* means from your point of view? I appreciate your input. Thanks for your level-headed criticisms

  • and they have ruined the Republican Party- and almost the country with their legislative our way or the highway stance Oh well........................... I would find it impossible that all Republicans, or even a clear mahjority, think the Tea Party best represents their interests I could b e wrong, though.... Any Republicans have input on what they think of the Tea Party? Good of bad for our country- good or bad for the Republican Party?

  • July 15, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST

    yeah what did OWS turn into?

    by Chain

    from what I can tell it's almost non existent in the media. since the corporations have decided not to cover them other than when they get beat up and thrown in jail. the cities they were in have legislated them away with zoning and curfews and other vagrancy laws. so exactly what have they morphed into other than a group of bloggers online who occasionally hold a rally ? they certainly don't have Koch bros ,ALEC and others bankrolling them and busing them across the nation. Or Fox News being their 24/7 free media outlet.

  • I don't mean the leadership per sea, but the general members. Both groups attracted the extreme nutjobs from their party. There are just as many hippie radicals who hate capitalism of any form for the sake as it is capitalism with OWS as there were gun toting hillbillies who hate Obama because he is Obama (and in turn he is black). Both sides we mostly lacked a clear vision and purpose other than OWS hated Wall Street and the Tea Party hated large government. Neither side offered any real viable solutions other than shutdown Wall Street or give government to the people. Yes, the Tea Party was backed by big business hence why they had more power and influence in Washington. That also made them more organized. But of course that took the Tea Party agenda out of the general Tea Party member's hands and in big business' hands. OWS seemed to more wanting to be a disturbance than try to back political members to push their agendas. Other than a few weeks on the news OWS have not gotten any OWS members on any major ticket that I know of or gotten a major political figure to try to curry their support. I also think the media have focused on the crazies from both movements because it made good television. All you saw from either movement in terms of the people at rallies were the extreme crazies of the groups. I do believe that both groups were started with good intentions. I think that OWS is just a rudderless ship and the Tea Party is now a corporate vehicle. I think both groups allowed the crazies to control their public personas assisted by the media.

  • July 15, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Correction

    by Rob0729

    When I said OWS hasn't gotten a candidate on a major ticket, I realize that several OWS ran for House seats. But none who have gone through the election process have gotten any significant amounts of votes. Also, there have been no OWS candidates for Senate or governorships.

  • July 15, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    chain

    by Rob0729

    Although I agree with some of what you say, but I disagree they failed because the media shut them down. A lot of the media is liberal. MSNBC is the left's answer to Fox News. They did get a lot of positive press from much of the media. I think it had more to do with OWS was just not well organized. They did a horrible job in selling their agenda and even many of the OWS couldn't say exactly what they wanted or what their solutions were. They lacked strong leadership. Even though the corporations that took over the Tea Party movement did so for the wrong reasons, what they did do was give their agenda a clear and precise message. Whether the message was BS or not is not the point. They were organized and they sold the public on their message.

  • July 15, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by Rob0729

    First, I said it is closer to them than you and others have said. They are very similar in a lot of ways. I never said they are the same. MSNBC is the liberal leaning news network (other than Current TV). They don't still cover OWS because it was more of a movement than a real orgainization. After a few weeks, there wasn't much left of OWS to cover. The Tea Party affected the 2010 election. In May, one of the most famous OWS members who ran for Congress got 729 votes in total. What is MSNBC supposed to do? Report day after day that OWS has done nothing and has nothing planned? Both movements were good in theory, but one got co-oped by Big Business and the other fizzled because it had no direction or cohesive message.

  • July 15, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Also

    by Rob0729

    The Tea Party had several candidates who ran for President with one of them actually giving Romney a run for his money. Again there is not a single viable OWS candidate out there and a few fringe ones running for the House with little to no chance of winning. That is why Fox and other news organizations still cover the Tea Party and not OWS. Only one group is active and relevant to the political climate. I am not a fan of Fox News, but there is legitimate reasons to cover the Tea Party while at the very moment there really isn't to cover OWS. The Tea Party strength is dwindling though and by the 2014 election cycle there may not be a reason to cover them either.

  • July 15, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST

    OWS v. Tea Party

    by goodforyou

    The Tea Party started as a backlash to the way economic issues were handled in 2008-2009. newsroom is right. It quickly turned into a organization that seemed to latch on to anyone that spoke out against the establishment, regardless of whether what was being said made any sense. OWS in my opinion began with a just argument. Why are companies who caused this financial mess being bailed out? Why are executive wages increasing, while middle class wages remain stagnant. It then was hijacked by big money tied in with an organized groups of anarchists that you typically see at G20 conferences destroying businesses and agitating the police. In the end, they both lost any level of credibility in my eyes.

  • July 15, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Falling Skies tonight!

    by Paul

    I went to the Comic-Con panel, looks like some interesting stuff with Terry O Quinn coming on once they get to the new area.

  • July 15, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST

    But I remember. I remember everything.

    by thelordofhell

    I remember Vietnam like it was yesterday. I remember that village in Tainan that we cut down. It was a massacre. All the dead Chinamen we left in our tracks. I remember the faces, the children. This one child I'll never forget. Poor little bastard was still alive. His little Chinese legs were blown clean off! Still see his little shins & feet hanging from the ceiling fan across the hut. He was charred from his head down to his little Chinese knees. He tried to get up, but he fell over when what was left of his right leg broke off. As he laid there, flat on his face, he looked up at me. His little Chinese eyes burned right into my stomach, deep into my soul. He said something to me in Chinese like, 'Boo coo sow!', sounded like some cartoon shit. But I understood it to be a question that he was asking me. And I don't have to know how to speak Chinese to know what that question was. 'Why, Black Dynamite? Why?'

  • July 15, 2012, 6:40 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo

    by Rob0729

    I don't know if MSNBC is as liberal as Fox is conservative, but I have a real problem with their clearly biased talk show host host news events like Democratic or Republican Conventions or election results. Rachel Maddow and before he was fire, Keith Olbermann, shouldn't be hosting events like that when they clearly have biases. I think Fox News can be the PR wing of the Republican party, but MSNBC is still too slanted in many of their broadcasts for me to accept them as real news. I have no use for either network.

  • July 15, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    OWS in Milwaukee

    by mypalfish

    Happened to be near UWM (University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee) when they had an OWS rally and a hundred or so kids walked out of class and marched. The news was there to cover the protest and some reporters asked a few guys what they were protesting and what they wanted. They said they wanted free tuition and free healthcare but couldn't articulate any larger purposes of the movement. Needless to say, they became a pretty big laughingstock after that and the local OWS just kind of fizzled away.

  • July 15, 2012, 7:15 p.m. CST

    "That's a record to run on." Well, will he run on it?

    by mypalfish

    So far, his campaign has been nothing but attacks on Romney. That's fine for now, as incumbents always try and define the challenger during the summer, as Clinton did vs Dole and Bush did vs Kerry, both very successfully. But we'll see how Obama does if he actually runs on Obamacare/taxes/economy/spending/stock market, etc.

  • July 15, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST

    OWS vs Tea Party

    by Bass Ackwards

    I think Waterson's character on the show had an excellent point to this that's offer understated. "Balanced" coverage is not the same as "fair" coverage. I remember when Fox first started getting popular, they'd always talk about how much more balance they are because they were covering as many democrat stories as republican stories. But at the time, it was a Republicsn president and Republican controlled house and senate. In that kind of climate there SHOULD be more stories about Republicans then Democrats, if you're bending over backwards to even the stats you're not covering happening relevant news, you're inventing it. The same can be said in the insistence here that OWS should be given the same critical eye as Tea Partyist. The Tea Party is just that, a PARTY, one that just had candidates running for President, it has representatives, corporate backing, and an actual effect in our political make up. OWS was a protest that barely even had a centralized message, no end game, no clear representatves or leaders, and has basically fizzled out. To suggest that the two demand the same coverage ignores the basic reality of the two organizations and isn't appealing to any sense of fair coverage, one organization genuinely deserves more coverage then the other, attempting to balance the two isn't fair it's a lie.

  • July 15, 2012, 7:47 p.m. CST

    As a liberal, OWS is a unfunny joke of squandered potential

    by American Mythos

    I was skeptical of the "movement" from the beginning. A bunch of college kids and old people refusing to organize, refusing to establish a power structure or throw their weight behind a political party. Shunning Democrats like legendary civil rights leader John Lewis, who, unlike OWS, actually knows how to fight and win battles. While I abhor the "grassroots" Koch-owned Tea Party, those fuckers actually knew how to build a winning network that actually took over congress -- since then they've done jack shit with that power, but they at least knew how to win. OWS wanted to enact noble change, but it will go down in history as an example of how not to go about acheiving it. Pathetic...

  • July 15, 2012, 7:47 p.m. CST

    *an unfunny joke

    by American Mythos

  • July 15, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST

    This is nice

    by MrLongbaugh

    It is nice to see people having a discusion about politics without a bunch of name calling and insults. Keep it classy AICN 'ers!!!

  • July 15, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    @Amigos

    by MrLongbaugh

    Hey McGoo and Pa. Nice to see you guys. Hope you both are doing well. And Pa, you can not imagine how jealous I am that you got to go to Comic-Con. You lucky dog, you!!! Peace out brothers!!!

  • July 15, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Love The Newsroom, but *heart* Continuum more....

    by Paul Hanlin Jr

    Approaching Firefly/BSG level quality.

  • July 15, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST

    One thing true of all tea party. They're racist.

    by mistergreen

  • July 15, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST

    The Newsroom is incredibly TV

    by Lostboytejas

    fucking excellent show!

  • Good episode though, and good song to coincide with the Giffords shooting. Have to admit, I got slightly choked up towards the end there.

  • July 15, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Black Dynamite

    by The Shropshire Slasher

    If the subsequent episodes are near as good as the first, this might be one of my all time favorites.

  • July 15, 2012, 11:19 p.m. CST

    i havent watched the breaking bad premiere yet...

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    But I will go on the record and say Newsroom is the BEST SHOW ON TV RIGHT NOW. I may be wrong in an hour, but good gosh is this show great now lets see if BB make me eat my words

  • July 15, 2012, 11:20 p.m. CST

    mcgootoo - It's from the original movie

    by thelordofhell

    Here's a link to it.......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fykFpD6snX0

  • July 15, 2012, 11:34 p.m. CST

    coldplay sequence... perfect

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    its fucked up that some crazy guy (coughracistcough) shot up a lady which resulted into a dramatic scene where harry from dumb and dumber kicks ass by standing by his morals/convictions to the tunes of coldplay ("you know i how know you're gay, right?") while i sit there, grinning like a fool i wonder if she'll ever watch it and think the same (minus the run on sentence)

  • July 16, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Anyone else slightly disappointed with themselves...

    by Patrick

    ... for learning a significant amount of our country's political information from The Newsroom, which takes place roughly two years in the past? I guess I have a decent excuse for this lack of knowledge in that I was studying abroad for a year, but still... /sigh BTW, I am loving this show. The romance seems a little heavy-handed, but I can live with it since the show's positives far outweigh the negatives.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Yes mrlongbaugh I am very blessed

    by Paul

    I got to see pilots of The Following, Revolution and 666 Park Place, I'll try to get to some write ups, but if anyone has questions feel free to ask. I also went to Tron, Uprising, Falling Skies, Person of Interest and other show panels.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Two Things That the Tea Party and OWS Have in Common

    by wrath 4771

    The first thing both groups have in common is neither is happy with the direction of the government and the free pass Wall Street has gotten since the '08 financial disaster. Second, both groups were quickly dismissed by the media as being clueless, gullible, and entities not to be taken seriously. I think the Tea Party was hijacked by the Koch Brothers and OWS was hurt by a lack of organization, but that doesn't mean the initial anger and frustration both groups have with the direction of the country should be dismissed. I think if both groups got together (in the beginning) they would find they had a lot of common ground.

  • July 16, 2012, 1:43 a.m. CST

    re: lao

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    do you not at least watch colbert report/ daily show? i dont pay attention to real news (because really, whats the point with all the money involved, influencing everything) but i at least stay up to date on the jokes those guys bring me mon-thur 11-12. its funny (and very depressing)

  • July 16, 2012, 2:26 a.m. CST

    lao_hu

    by RedJester

    Being a political/news junkie I can't say that I've learned anything from the show per say, but I can say just how glad I am of the accuracy of the news The Newsroom chooses to show. If this show has unearthed an urge you have to stay better informed, I give you this list of news programming that is a must see for any informed individual. Charlie Rose Fareed Zakaria GPS Viewpoint with Elliot Spitzer 60 Minutes The Economist Podcast Democracy Now

  • July 16, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST

    O'Quinn on Falling Skies?

    by Truxton Spangler

    Doesn't he have an ABC show to do?

  • July 16, 2012, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Preachy.

    by gotilk

    That's the word I keep hearing when it comes to criticism of The Newsroom. I remember, not too many years ago, when a show would come on, and when it was over I would say something like *that had a powerful message* or *that was about something a little more than spaceships and aliens with ridges on their heads*. You know what I mean. No, not just sci-fi shows. All kinds of shows, films, hell... even music. We called them *messages* *morals* or simply claim that the thing we had watched or heard was *making a point*. Now, somehow in the last 5-20 years, those words are out the door and we've *evolved* (ha!). Now they're *preachy* or the writers/producers have an *agenda*. Don't you even think for a goddamn minute that we don't see through it and know what it is. It's cynicism, pure and simple. It's also a little bit of scapegoating and the bandwagon effect. Besides, if you hear something enough times, especially from the media, you will sometimes start to believe or adopt it. The chance of this happening grows exponentially in the presence of an idea that .. well.. hits too close to home. When the facts start to stack up against you and you begin to discover that a large chunk of what you believed to be true is absolute lies, your reaction can go two ways... 1. You keep quiet, and slowly start to figure it out. You stop saying the really stupid, outrageous things. You begin to consider yourself a *more balanced person* politically. (sometimes you begin saying things like the ever-popular *If you ask me, both side are corrupt. They're all the same to me*. That's all part of the process. And I'm not going to insult you for it. Good for you. 2. You continue to defend your heroes AND the things they have said in the past that have been proven to be lies, because your ego cannot handle being THAT deflated all at once. It's just too much to take. You *stick to your guns*. When people around you say things like *being a friend means defending your friends, even when they're wrong* you nod enthusiastically and agree loudly. It almost seems romantic to you, that idea. When does a message become preachy? When does a moral become an agenda? I'll tell you when. When either one forces you to face that FACT that you've been fundamentally (if you'll pardon the pun) WRONG. You don't like that feeling, so you start scratching frantically around in the dark for the buzz words that will rescue you... well.. at least when it comes to the easily-turned minds of the unwashed masses you respect so much and want to protect from those *elites* making them all squirmy and uncomfortable with messy facts and truths. Here's another truth you won't like... you don't respect those people at all. Just like those friends you'd defend *even when they're wrong*. You would rather they *like* you than tell them the truth and run the risk of making them angry, or uncomfortable, or hurt... for a while maybe. And then when they leave the room, you talk about how stupid they are for letting some other person walk all over them, or whatever truth it was you were *protecting* them from. You take the easy way. It may be a cliche to say that it takes courage to tell people the truth, even if it means they won't like you. It is easier to just gloss over the truth, but only in the short term. If you let it go on too long, it leads to disaster... failure... destruction. No one man has ever done anything MASSIVELY horrible on his own. Ever. That always requires a host of other people telling him that he's doing the right thing when he's not. That's what's been going on in the US for far too long now. This would be the place where I'd normally tell you that ... well... BOTH sides are corrupt and we need to replace everyone... on both sides and start over. Well, hate to break it to you, but the Republic party has been taken over by idiotic freaks for decades now. And when they are NOT idiots, they listen to idiots and pretend they ARE idiots as well. Look at what's happened to all of Romney's (and McCain's before him) moderate views and policies during the election cycle. And NO.. it's not the same as Obama dragging his heels on policies he made promises about in his last campaign. See, Obama actually did pull back and tread lightly on the more strong liberal ideas he discussed before his election. In some cases he compromised or took his sweet time. But he didn't change what made him stand out in his own party as a moderate during the election. What Republic candidates typically do is CAVE and abandon ALL moderate stances when it comes to campaigning for the presidency. Why? To appease the religious right, who still controls the party. Like it or not. Even when it can be shown that they have far less of an influence than they used to. It seems almost Pavlovian sometimes. Remember those *South Park Republicans* they used to talk about? How about those libertarian-leaning young Republicans? They are so far away from any control in the party. It's a joke. Your party is controlled by 2 radical, loud minorities. Fix it. You thought the teabaggers were it. But it turned out they were just angry and dumb, for the most part. The smart, libertarian teabaggers were the exception, NOT the rule. Sorry. I have voted for both Libertarian and Republic candidates. In the PAST. Why? Because the party is ruined, and there is no way to deny it with an educated opinion anymore. The party has to be sent a message, and the message must be clear. Your party is broken. And the reason why it's broken is that you let the kooks take control. And when you call people like Obama radically liberal, you lose ALL credibility. There are almost NO radical liberals in the DemocratIC party. They're all too damn busy trying to be Republican-lite, so that their enemies don't label them as liberals. It really surprises me still how easily the whole party was manipulated into so much self-hatred when it comes to their core ideologies. But really that's just my opinion. What do you think? LOL!!!!

  • July 16, 2012, 3:17 a.m. CST

    I liked Falling Skies again tonight.

    by gotilk

    Every week it surprises me by being entertaining and compelling. Of course, Breaking Bad and The Newsroom were outstanding. Just really, really great TV. Breaking Bad is still, in my opinion, the best show on TV... ever. That premiere was everything I wanted it to be, and so much more. The Newsroom disappointed me in one way though. Not only did they play that annoying, whiny Coldplay song, they actually named the episode after it (in a sense). So... free pass this time. But if it does that again, I actually might stop watching. Yes, I feel that strongly about it. Coldplay is the most sterile, bland facsimile of what people call *indie rock* in existence. It made the producers of the show seem wildly out of touch, culturally.

  • the newsroom continues to stress that Will is a registered republican who has become disgusted with what has become of his party.. Last night the world started calling him a LIBRULZ!! just the people postin on AICN have been doing for a few weeks now. that's what happens in the cult that the GOP has become. When you speak out against the cult you are demonized and cast out. When you advocate sanity, reason or compromise you are tared and feathered. When you suggest that a democrat, or a liberal, might have a point or might even be a decent intelligent person god forbit you are discredited absolutely. in the world of the GOP the democrats are a boogie man to fear and a villain to destroy... period. big media is pathetic. to watch George Stephanopis or David Gregory try to pretend that both sides are just as corrupt so as to keep their seat at the table is just painful. obviously democrats are far from perfect. but my god in terms of today's debate? today it seems the democrats corruption is manifested in not standing for up for the truth. they certainly arn't being too liberal, The repbulicans corruption, on the other hand, is a mile long freight train filled to capacitiy with insane lies covering suicidal policy. and that's a big part of the problem. whilethe debate is focused on politics. what really impacts people's lives is policy. it's pretty god damn frustrating.

  • July 16, 2012, 8 a.m. CST

    preachy

    by hst666

    Have not watched the Newsroom yet, but To me a show is unacceptably "preachy" when it hits you over the head with its message. I prefer my entertainment have something to say, than not. However, I prefer it mot feel the need to spoon feed me the message/moral and just let the message/moral be implied by the work.

  • Newsroom- only a closed-minded Republican, which seems to be a majority - would see this show as preachy, or about a liberal - please- prove me wrong!!!!! Can Republicans embrace Newsroom and leave THEIR propaganda-machined thoughts at the door? And by prove me wrong, I hope that the majority of Republicans are really not closed- minded as we are led to beleive by the media and politicians.

  • July 16, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST

    gotilk - are you voting for Obama this year?

    by Michael Lunney

  • July 16, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST

    mrekoletmelive - is it even better than the movie?

    by Michael Lunney

  • July 16, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Come on that coldplay song was cheating...

    by bowtiehoon

    They could have filmed a scene with Will in the toilet, trying to squeeze out the last turd, with that song playing in the background, and it would still be an emotional scene

  • July 16, 2012, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Newsroom--embracing the show as a Republican

    by AndersMage

    mcgootoo, yes a Republican can embrace this show. I have only seen the first two episodes so far (traveling, but have the next ones on the DVR), but I have really enjoyed them. We can look at it two different ways. First, I don't have to agree with everything being said in a show to enjoy it. Plots of individual episodes aside, I have agreed with some points made on Newsroom and disagreed with some. That doesn't change the fact that the actors are doing a great job with their characters and the scripts are written very well. So far, I love it. Second, at least in the first two episodes, I haven't seen it as being heavily "left leaning". Some characters are, sure. But overall, multiple sides of each argument are presented. And there are usually more than just two. In fact, that's one of the things that I really like. The world is not black and white. There are multiple thoughts about each issue, and neither the Republican nor Democrat side are 100% in agreement across all people who identify with each party. Example: I considerate myself conservative, and I typically vote Republican. On individual issues, however, I don't completely agree with everything. I'm against abortion, but I'm for homosexual marriage. And I completely justify both as a conservative opinion. The government should not be in the business of telling individuals what they can and can't do with each other, as long as their decisions don't infringe on other people's rights (i.e. you can't drive drunk, no matter how much you might want to). If two people want to get married, the government should not get in the way. At the same time, since I believe that life begins at conception, abortion is one person making a decision that ends another person's life without their consent. Anyway, I rambled too long. That's my 2 cents worth.

  • July 16, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST

    truxton spanglers cereal cabal

    by Paul

    Well most of Falling Skies has already been shot since its a Summer show and 666 Park Ave is starting to shoot now. I'm assuming though that he will probably just have and arch and then just come in and out of the story like his part on Hawaii 5-O.

  • andersmage - great comments, my conservative friend! You bypassed the boilerplate consevative dismissal of Newsroom- and pegged it for the show IT REALY IS!! EVERYONE- read his comments!!! Is your moniker named after Workaholics?

  • July 16, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST

    mcgootoo--moniker

    by AndersMage

    Nothing too original on the name. I happened to have a character named Anders in a roleplaying game, and he was a Mage. He was my favorite character when I created the login here, so it stuck.

  • July 16, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    @McGoo

    by MrLongbaugh

    Hey Amigo. You know that I am a Republican and I don't consider myself close minded. Do you?

  • July 16, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    mrlongbaug - I know you are not- that is why I also said:

    by Michael Lunney

    I hope that the majority of Republicans are really not closed- minded as we are led to believe by the media and politicians.

  • goodforyou: "My guess is that the same critical eye will not be used on the occupy wall street movement. Again, making the premise of the show laughable." Considering how polarizing the occupy movement is I would be surprised to not see an episode about it. goodforyou: "Much like the tea party, it also started out in the right direction but quickly turned into something else." The Tea Party movement never started out in the right direction. The only similarity between the two movements was how they attracted the fringe left and right. The Tea Party's early momentum was credited to pseudo non-profit organizations like FreedomWorks created by, Dick Armey, one of DC’s top corporate lobbyist. Armey’s FreedomWorks was actively using the Tea Party at the behest of pharmaceutical companies, such as Bristol-Myers Squibb, that oppose comparative effectiveness research in the health reform plan because such a program may cut into revenue for branded drugs. FreedomWorks also represented the trade group for the life insurance industry as they mobilized its members for deregulated life insurance reform. They largely focused their energy activism on supporting the status quo reliance on fossil fuels as they have a vested interest in opposing change. Armey’s lobbying firm represents Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Prime Minister of the UAE, on energy related issues such as maintaining the U.S. relationship with foreign oil that represent about 10 percent of global oil reserves. The Wall Street Journal also exposed FreedomWorks for building “amateur-looking” websites to promote the lobbying interests of Armey and the Tea Party. Essentially, FreedomWorks and the Tea Party represents a top-down, corporate-friendly pseudo-grassroots approach to achieve its agenda. The sad part is most of the Tea Partiers are unaware of this connection. A connection made clear in The Newsroom's Tea Party episode. As the current administration closes tax loopholes, reforms health care, and attempts to transition to a clean energy economy, we can expect more corporate lobbyists to create "astroturf protest" organizations that manipulate movements to oppose change.

  • July 16, 2012, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Newsroom unrealistic?

    by theGoldbergV

    I can buy that no one talks like that, or how rose-tinted the view of journalism is, or even that someone could accidentally in this day and age email the entire staff but someone who looks like Olivia Munn on her own at new years? Sorry Sorkin, suspension of disbelief blown right there. Otherwise it was great stuff. I'm a bit uneasy about using the real life shooting as a climax for everyone's character issues but they just about got away with it. Are the reviews softening up yet? Just read Hitflix and it continues to get slated over there...

  • July 16, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST

    True Blood was way better this week...

    by uberfreak

    and Pam is fucking AWESOME!

  • Stop taking sides, leaning left and just be honest that both sides suck it long time... I want to like it, but Sorkin's POV is leftist and it's annoying and whiny. The young woman, I forget her name, and her immigrant bromides in episode 2 was sickeningly liberal and over-the-top... I wondered how this would play with a real Republican in the cast, say Kelsey Grammar as the Daniels role.... I do love Sam Waterson...hope he gets an Emmy.