Stallone, Schwarzenegger, Crews, Lundgren, and Couture beef up THE EXPENDABLES 2 Comic-Con panel!!!
Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.
One of the final panels of the first full day of San Diego Comic-Con belonged to the returning champ from two SDCCs ago, Sylvester Stallone and the men of THE EXPENDABLES, on hand to promote THE EXPENDABLES 2. The panel was a little light on new footage (compared to the previous one), but I thought the discussion was actually a lot better, especially when Stallone, Terry Crews, Randy Couture, and Dolph Lundgren (no Bruce Willis this time around) were joined on stage by Arnold Schwarzenegger for one of the liveliest chats I've seen in Hall H in quite some time. Both Stallone and Schwarzenegger were honored with basically "greatest hits" clip packages of their work over the years (although a couple of shots of Arnold as Mr. Freeze in BATMAN & ROBIN were met with a smattering of laughter from the crowd
But once the adornment was put aside, the panel was able to dive into the movie and their respective careers. Although the panel was short on plot details about EXPENDABLES 2, the one extended scene that was screened at the end of the panel was a fun, chaotic shoot-out sequence that gave us quick glimpses of Sly, Arnold and Willis fighting side by side with massive weapons, and it brought warmth to my heart. The sequence also featured quick glimpses of Jean-Claude Van Damme as a trench-coated, sunglasses-wearing villain and Chuck Norris saving someone's hide at one point. There's a funny exchange between Willis and Schwarzenegger at the end that I won't spoil, but let's say they poke fun at a few of their better-known catch phrases through the ages.
A few highlights for me from the panel discussion included:
-- Stallone's reaction to seeing all the clips from this career: "I'm really proud to have been a big part of that particular kind of filmmaking, where you got a chance to feel the rock, feel the waterfall, hang from a helicopter. It was quite and adventure. [The EXPENDABLES movies] are an homage to that era, because I'm a product of it, and many men like me have been very fortunate to have been part of a genre that cropping up in the early '80s, and I don't know how much longer it's going to last. And I thought let's try to keep it going for as long as we can and bring back some true badasses and get some male pattern badness in the thing.
-- [Today's action stars] are just a different kind of action star where it becomes a little more futuristic, more scientific and technical. You don't actually have to spend your life pumping iron, which isn't exactly a lot of fun. You can be creative through CGI and be able to do things that are extraordinary. I'm actually a little jealous. It's a totally different kind of action hero, but it's totally valid. Each generation had to create their own heroes. Ours come from the '80s and '90s. But each generation will redefine what they like through the heroes they choose to adore.
-- Stallone admitted that a lot of what happens in THE EXPENDABLES 2 is a result of how audiences reacted to the first film in terms of mixing action, humor, violence, how deep into the characters they should get, and momentum. It was a process of tone amplification in his eyes in an effort to surpass the first film.
-- Stallone referred to Schwarzenegger as "one of brothers in the hard-R business."
-- Arnold's first words on stage: "I'm back." He admitted that the friendly rivalry between he and Stallone (from who killed more people in their movies total to who had more oil on their muscles in each new film) was a big part of their relationship.
-- Arnold said when he first arrived on THE EXPENDABLES 2 set, the stunt team said to him they realized that he'd been out of the business for eight years so, "Here's how you load a gun, and here's how you throw a punch and almost hit them. It was a how-to for the first hour, but they realized you don't lose it all. I could get back and load the gun, shoot the gun, get back into things. All the fun things, I didn't forget. You wish you could do some of those things in politics, but you can't."
-- Terry Crews, a former NFL player, said that the night before games, he and his teammates would get together and watch Stallone and Schwarzenegger movies to ramp themselves up. "One thing you have to realize about the action genre is that it's like a religion; you get your beliefs from these movies, your idea of what's right and wrong."
-- Arnold spent an extended amount of time talking about how much better shape Crews was in since they made THE SIXTH DAY (Crews' first movie) together, to which Crews responded "I can die now! Arnold likes my muscles!" To which Arnold said, "I hope you don't take it the wrong way." The bro-mance is alive and well.
-- Arnold said, "When I came to American 44 years ago, Sly was my English teacher," to which Stallone responded, "Ow! We should have a spelling bee some day."
-- Stallone recounted his first meeting Arnold at the Golden Globes where ROCKY won best picture and best director, and Arnold won Best Newcomer. He swore that Arnold got larger during the course of the awards ceremony, and when he heard Arnold's last name, he thought it was a joke and that he'd never catch on. Arnold remembered that Stallone's mother came over to him and said, "You look like a piano mover."
-- Although they didn't talk in much detail about it, Sly and Arnold did mention that they had just finished shooting a new movie, THE TOMB, a couple of weeks ago. "It's great to be back again," said Arnold. "Some people say I was gone from acting for eight years. I say there are other critics who say he was never in acting in the first place." Ending with: "It's not a tumor!"
-- Arnold mentioned in vague terms the idea of KING CONAN and a TWINS sequel, but he was fairly non-committal. Although he did recite the line, "Crush your enemies." "I have been interested in doing the TWINS sequel for many years. Ivan Reitman has shown interested in the project, as has Universal Studios. We're now looking for a great writer to write the sequel. I think it will be hilarious."
-- Stallone admitted that his favorite Arnold movie was TERMINATOR 2; Arnold admitted he was impressed by how many franchises Stallone was responsible for over the years.
That about cover THE EXPENDABLES 2 panel highlights. More Comic-Con coverage to come. Stay tuned…
-- Steve Prokopy
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July 13, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST
by Mullah Omar
Not a single word about either of them? Really???
July 13, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
by Read and Shut Up
No more need be said.
July 13, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST
RANDY COUTURE IS JUST SITTING THERE SAYING "WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING UP HERE WITH THESE GUYS". LACK OF SHARED ARNOLD/SLY NEMESIS CARL WEATHERS IN THIS STILL SADDENS ME.
by Darth Busey
July 13, 2012, 11:29 a.m. CST
by Lourdes Galan
Or plastic face
July 13, 2012, 11:32 a.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST
Shame he didn't get to speak? Or did he? I don't expect Dalai Lama-like insight but still it would be interesting. I've never heard him speak outside his movies. He holds a master's degree in chemical engineering and was offered a Fulbright scholarship to study at MIT. He knows multiple languages, he's a karate champion. He's awesome.
July 13, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST
The fact that Arnold quoted CONAN THE BARBARIAN in regards to a KING CONAN question speaks volumes. Lets hope the oak gets asked this question alot so he does this epic ASAP. Now if only Milius directs...or Paul Verhoeven!
July 13, 2012, 12:08 p.m. CST
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
July 13, 2012, 12:27 p.m. CST
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July 13, 2012, 12:44 p.m. CST
Glad to see them doing ok. They all have been a part of our lives making the 80's the best time to be a kid growing up. Life was simple back then.
July 13, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST
With Wings as Eagles, directed by Paul Verhoeven. They must collaborate a second time before Verhoeven dies, since Crusade never came to fruition. King Conan, directed by Millius, and if Millius won't do it, then how about Peter Jackson? A true Predator sequel. True Lies 2, produced by James Cameron and directed by Kathryn Bigelow Terminator 5 and 6, scripted by William Wisher and directed by Neil Blomkamp. Avatar 2 (or 3, or 4). Blade Runner 2, with Arnie as a Batty-like replicant. Kill Bill, Vol. 3. Tarantino could do great things with him. And I always thought it a pity that Spielberg didn't direct him in something during Arnold's box office prime. Apparently, Spielberg was asked to direct Last Action Hero but turned it down. I can imagine a good version of that movie with a better script and Spielberg helming it. Of course, none of this will come to pass.
July 13, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST
Where is my Red Dawn trailer?? WTF?? It's due in Nov! I'll settle for a f-ing teaser trailer! WOLVERINES!!!
July 13, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 1:40 p.m. CST
Milius would have directed, Arnold would have starred and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson would have played his son. But it all fell through because of the opening to be Governor.
July 13, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
by Seth Brundle
July 13, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST
'Cause other wise you wouldn't know who is who.
July 13, 2012, 2 p.m. CST
I remember the first time I got to see Conan as a kid. At the time I thought it was amazing, and even though it hasn't aged well. I still freaking love it. Conan the Barbarian & Conan The Destroyer!
July 13, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
Growing up no way my parents would let my brothers & me see R rated movies before our teen years. I still remember sneaking trying to watch Total Recall. I don't think I actually saw that movie until I was 16 LOL. But once I finally did it was AWESOME! I think the first uncut action movie I got to see was The Running Man, so movies like the Expendables take me back!
July 13, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST
The fan who asked the question did so by adopting a mock Arnold accent. (You know, because nothing makes you easier to understand than doing an Arnold impression in a large, crowded room.) It looked like Arnold didn't realize the fan was talking about Crown of Iron and thought he was asking to hear a Conan impression.
July 13, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST
by ass clown
"Here is your Sub-Zero.... Now Plain Zero." Starring Alex Trebek as Killian's son, Jonah Hill as Dynamo 2, Brock Lesnar as Buzz-Saw 2, and Alec Baldwin as Sub-Zero 2.
July 13, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
by ass clown
The greatest feeling you can get in the gym... Is the pump... It feels fantastic. It's as satisfying to me as the cumming is. You know, as in having sex with a beautiful woman and the cumming. So can you believe how much I am in heaven? I am getting the feeling of cumming at the gym, Im getting the feeling of cumming at home, Im getting the feeling of cumming backstage when I pump up, when I pose out in front of five thousand people I get the same feeling. So for me its like Im cumming day and night.
July 13, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
Still mad about the Expendables demolishing Scott Pilgrim at the box office? Arnold very well may be a jerk, but I doubt you've spoken with even a fourth of the people who've worked with him. Maybe his adultery experience (and the bankrupting of California) has humbled him.
July 13, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
There's a reason you can find all sorts of news articles about a Twins sequel today, but virtually nothing about King Conan possibly being revived. It's because there's a huge difference between directly addressing a rumor like Triplets, and simply paying a little fan service to the crowd by throwing out a popular quote.
July 13, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST
TWINS 2?!?!?! Friggin' Twins?! YEAH, THAT's what we have been waiting 8 years of Arnie-less cinema for former Governor Schwarzenegger. Geeeez!
July 13, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST
I've got to get in shape for this movie, then grab some girl's tits and fuck her while watching this motherfucker
July 13, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST
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July 13, 2012, 4:34 p.m. CST
God bless you, Governator.
July 13, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST
by golden tribw
July 13, 2012, 6:07 p.m. CST
May not have been his most popular film, but it was still a lot of fun. If anything, they should make Danny DeVito more of a scumbag. Apparently he's a really nice guy in person, but dammit, he plays lowlife assholes so well.
July 13, 2012, 6:47 p.m. CST
Stallone dropped the ball. It wasn't even so bad it was good.
July 13, 2012, 6:50 p.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST
Just read that Stallone's son (age 36) was just found dead. No word yet as cause of death.
July 13, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 7:13 p.m. CST
July 13, 2012, 7:17 p.m. CST
...the Terminator did what he does, capture our attention.
July 13, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST
To those who are trolling with Arnold hate, we know about his faults, I'm sure you are without mistakes and worthy of judging others, but may I offer the idea of SEPARATION OF FORM AND CONTENT...
....do you also hate Chinatown? Apocalypto? Seinfeld? The NBA? What does his personal life have to do with the UNDENIABLE fact that the world would be a better place with a King Conan film starring Arnold Schwarzennegger. The fans would be happy. The rest can let it go unnoticed. Like you trolls should have let this talkback go.
July 13, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST
...he should be in part three as the leader of a rival team that features The Rock, Vin Diesel, Michael Jai White, and Wesley Snipes. Action set around African exploitation. Carl Weathers, that is all.
July 13, 2012, 9:21 p.m. CST
His name is right there in the photos of him and you can't spell it correctly for the headline? SCHWARZENEGGER.
July 13, 2012, 11:13 p.m. CST
Harry, et al, you really should convey to Arnold or even Arnold via Sly just how much fans want Arnold to star in KING CONAN
Seriously. DO IT! Time is of the essence here...the guys probably only have a few years worth of playing believable action stars (even if it's an old, grizzled variant) in them...so getting moving on something like that is rather important.
July 14, 2012, 2:19 p.m. CST
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