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Karl Urban tells/shows Capone what his Comic-Con punishment by J.J. Abrams is for spilling the beans on a STAR TREK 2 secret!!!
Hey everyone. Capone in San Diego here.
The day after I saw Karl Urban kick unholy ass in the euphorically violent DREDD, I got a chance to sit down with him to talk about his longtime love of the comic book and various storylines. I'll have that interview for you shortly, but I wanted to tease it with my final question of the interview, which had nothing to do with DREDD, and his reaction to said question. The premise of my question was to find out how much trouble Urban (who plays Dr. McCoy in the STAR TREK movies) got in recently by his STAR TREK 2 director J.J. Abrams & Co. for possibly spilling the beans that the character Benedict Cumberbach is playing is Gary Mitchell, from the original "Star Trek" series. This is how he responded…
Capone: I have to ask, how much hot water did you get in for that bit of news you let slip about STAR TREK 2 last week?
Karl Urban: I was afraid you were going to ask that. J.J. Abrams sent me something for Comic-Con this week and told me that anytime I was asked a question about STAR TREK, I had to do this…[Karl removes a long strip of masking tape with something written on it off the leg of his jeans, where it has been stuck since he walked in the room, then proceeds to do this, posing for my photographer, Gavin "Malone" Stokes, quite willingly]
Capone: I guess that answers the question.
Very funny. Urban also revealed that before the end of Comic-Con, footage from the STAR TREK sequel will land up on YouTube, so keep an eye out for that.
-- Steve Prokopy
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I'm looking forward to Dredd.
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July 13, 2012, 4:28 a.m. CST
who cares. biggest news from the con is that gaiman is doing sandman again
by walt
fuck this faux star trek
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is for chubby goth girls.
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Every era every incarnation is different. There's no precedent... None of them are any more false than the one that preceded it. Weird argument.
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no wanna know why???? cuz those movies had an actual plot that people cared about 99 percent of the world knew spock was gonna die in wrath of khan they all still went...and wept when are you fucks gonna admit that jj is a fucking hack GAIMAN IS WRITING SANDMAN AGAIN see...that is geek news...not...jj doesnt want anyone to know that gary mitchell, who only trekkies know...is gonna be a character not that it matters...jj fucked up every other character mitchell will probably be an emo teen who dies in the first 10 minutes think in this movie, chekov will actually sound russian...cuz for 200 mil, you would think they wouldve hired a dialect coach GAIMAN IS DOING SANDMAN...YOU FUCKS
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Anyone whip that up in Photoshop yet?
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because I'm not a massive fan of Star Trek or Sandman.......but......the kid who played Chekov in the Star Trek movie....Anton Viktorovich Yelchin was born in Russia, and both his parents are russian. Walter Koenig the original Chekov was born in Chicago.
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koenig is just a little more russian...even though born in chitown gaiman is an english jew....and hes writing sandman again
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July 13, 2012, 5:13 a.m. CST
When the original Star Treks came out, no one was watching.....
by Felix
and there was no internet..... Dumbass.
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July 13, 2012, 5:20 a.m. CST
waltkovacs, 100% of the world didn't have the internet as we know it
by Talkbacker with no name
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I didn't mean to cause offense. It's great news for all Gaiman/Sandman fans out there, that he'll be involved in a new series.
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so do you need a volcano suit to kill khan? rodan .. thats who you need a volcano for... well also that skywalker dude who was box office money. KIRK, I HAVE THE HIGHER GROUND! NO GARY... WE WERE LIKE BROTHERS! glad i grew up in the 70s
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July 13, 2012, 6:16 a.m. CST
Max Normal for the Dredd Sequel - Ben Whishaw. Flare's fair.
by dalcross
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July 13, 2012, 6:41 a.m. CST
@hahas: I don't know if anyone gave you an answer or a link so here you go:
by beastie
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/13/comic-con-neil-gaiman-announces-new-sandman-series
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Though both were truly world-class reads. ...and I'm with daveryfirst - loved the 'chubby goth girls' dig, righteousbrother!
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I (and possibly others) have been doing my best to avoid learning the info accidentally revealed by Mr Urban because I'd prefer to be surprised later. But I figured that his "punishment" would be something humorous so I looked at this article. Imagine my surprise to find a HUGE SPOILER for the next Trek movie in the text even BEFORE the main subject of the article was reached! Ain't it cool? NOT IN THE LEAST! Please warn when a spoiler is present, as you seem to do EVERYWHERE ELSE!
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July 13, 2012, 7:28 a.m. CST
@nurbles: There is a BIG RED BOX THAT SAYS SPOILER around the link to the article.
by beastie
I am not a Trek fan, so I didn't care about the spoiler, but I did want to know about the punishment. There was a clear red box that said "Spoiler" around the link that I clicked on. Anytime I think there may possibly be spoilers attached to something I care about - doesn't matter where in the article it is located, I either don't click or take my chances with only myself to blame. I'm still pissed at Harry, though, for revealing a massive True Blood spoiler (from only the prior week) in a Lost DVD review. I had been waiting until the end of the season to watch it as one.
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July 13, 2012, 7:47 a.m. CST
Lots of people don't seek out genuine spoilers now, let aone in the pre-internet days of Star Trek 2...
by u.k. star
Nobody I knew was aware he was going to die. It ws a massive shock, a massive one. Like Vader being Luke's dad and so on. Some films / film-makers like to keep things secret, others don't. One of the reasons you get films keeping it all hush hush, is precisely to keep things how they were in the pre-internet days, when you didn't know 99% of what was going on until you saw the film. Why on Earth would anyone want to know something as key as Spock dying before they saw the film? It lessens the experience; the film would still be good or bad, but that shock / surprise wouldn't be there, nor as keen.
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Blame it on what i would call "The Ridley Effect" in which Directors,Writers,etc return to a franchise that helped to boost their career while making certain IPs hughely successful. In Scott's case; Proetheus and an upcoming Bladerunner sequel. What's next Alan Moore banging new stories for Watchmen...er, scratch that. I meant Miracleman? Don't call it a comeback.
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And his Felix Castor series is easily the best of the 'wizard/PI' series out there (not saying much maybe)
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If you have read the Sandman Slim novels, would you say Felix Castor is better, worse or on par with those. I find those to be a wonderful guilty pleasure.
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July 13, 2012, 8:35 a.m. CST
99 percent of the world knew spock was gonna die in wrath of khan
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
99% of the world didn't care enough to know that.
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That's a little before my time............but I'm curious - how did that come about? Was there a trailer or something that gave it up or just Hollywood rumor mill?
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Word had gotten out amongst Trekkies/Trekkers during filming that Spock was going to die..........I'm not sure if anyone outside of fandom knew though.
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that Spock would die, but going into the theater in '82 you didn't know for sure. Which is why there's that little joke at the beginning from Kirk, 'Aren't you dead?' that I remember got a nervous laugh in the theater. Also, there was a bit of misdirection there, in the sense that watching it you thought, Oh THAT'S what they meant about Spock dying.
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I don't think anyone outside of the Trek nerds know anything about Spock dying before seeing the movie. Then again I was only 5 so not surprising I had no knowledge of it.
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WOW! What a stupid fucking place for a Sandman comment!! Stupid cunts. Fuck Sandman, whether it's in it's own talkback, or this one. No one outside the, roughly, 1500 people who cared about Trek after The Motionless Picture knew about Spock's death. I know. I was alive for the picture's release.
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July 13, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST
All the rabid secrecy about Star Trek would be worth it - if it was any good. Fool me twice....
by cozy
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I've always loved how ST2 pulled off a massive plot deflection in its opening. Everyone had heard that Spock dies, so in the opening two minutes... Spock "dies." Brilliant.
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Fuck Sandman!
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and I don't recall knowing about Spock's death before going into the movie, or even hearing a rumor. Maybe I've just forgotten; it was 30 years ago after all.
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I still have a little trouble with everybody clamoring to find out which story JJ and crew are REMAKING! Why is there so much interest and provocation with a story rehash? I would think there'd be more concern on whether they were going to do something NEW in the alternate time-line they created so they could, you know, not have to stick to the same cannon and story and...gasp..maybe make something NEW? I mean is this supposed to be "Trek Begins" or just a new version of the original show? It seems a little like that Helsinki syndrome thing - we're so used to getting rehashes of everything that we lap it up as delicious tidbits of stories that were actually already told. Not trying to hate here..not on us or JJ&crew - I never watched Lost and have never flipped out over JJ's work one way or the other (I did enjoy MI3 for Hoffman/Maggie Q mainly and I also liked Cloverfield which he wrote) but this beyond the knee-jerk hate or acceptance - I just find it exceedingly odd that we are waiting with baited breath and there's an almost military-esque clandestine process to keep any and every detail under the tightest of wraps... ..all for a story we've already seen and/or read. In a word: WTF? It's like we're all kids and one of us is a good writer and tells the rest of us stories (think Gordy and friends in Stand By Me) and while asking for his latest story - he says, he's re-written the entire Mark Twain catalog but won't tell us which one he's going to tell us - we'll figure that out as he reads it..that's the surprise...and isn't it exciting? Umm..no, its not exciting, it's a freakin rehash and I just cannot get excited about a newer and fresher version of something I've already seen or read. It's ok though, not a crap idea doing a remake but let's not pretend it's more than it actually is...JJ's new versions of stuff we've already seen. Why go through the process of creating the clever gap that allows them to change the original stories around but then immediately gutter-ball right into telling those same stories again only with more money, better effects, more production value, etc...? That's not innovation - that's a crutch. The movie will likely be good...Trek 2009 was a good movie...but it's not revolutionary or even all that remarkable in terms of brilliant creative output. And that's by definition (read: remakes).
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You are joking right? Right...?
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Kirk: "Aren't you dead?" Totally faked me out, and really made the real death even harder. Brought a tear to me eye....
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went even further, as the opening Kobayashi Maru scene in Star Trek 2 seemingly killed a few of the original crew (McCoy comes to mind). That and the "aren't you dead?" line did a great job of disarming folks who were expecting it. I was 12 when it was originally released, and the Spock death rumors were rampant (based on reports from early screenings, I believe.) As I recall, I read about it initially in the L.A. Times, so that news certainly went beyond the hardcore base. Apparently, early drafts of the 'Khan' script killed off Spock in the first act.
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I love me some Sandman
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It'll be Khan.
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July 13, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST
Funny gag but isn't the tape going to pick up fabric particles and fuzz if he keeps ripping it on and off his jeans?
by Al
And also the tape is going to loose it's stickiness. These are the things I think about in life.
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Seems like a red herring cooked up by someone at Paramount marketing to keep Cumberbatch's role secret. Remember, Karl Urban is an ACTOR. Therefore he can "act" like he slipped up. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Most of the people I have seen buying Sandman has been fat ugly goth girls that listen to The Cure and cut themselves.
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That would be a good choice if they were going to remake a story from the old series. It'd get my vote!
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That's not exactly true. I've watched since 1966 ( I was 13 ) and yes everyone at school was talking about it. It was the stick in the mud older viewers that didn't get it. And yes I know the ratings sucked by the 3rd year but that was mostly due to Roddenberry taking a back seat. He was tired of fighting the suits. By the time it made it's come back in the 70's syndication us kids were grown and the main stream.
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The movies which everyone was watching.
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It made you root for the ultimate anti-hero. It took a tangential character and fleshed out his world so well. Other characters of the Sandman got their own books: Thessaly, Petrefax etc., but none were as good as Lucifer.
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July 13, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
Sorry Guys But It Was Everywhere That Spock Was Going To Die
by Real Deal
I saw it the Sat. after opening night and I'd read everywhere ( magazines newspapers yes we did have news sources back then ) that Spock would die and I also knew that they left it opening for him to come back. I still enjoyed and was moved by the film. Actually I think Spock's death scene was one of Shatner's finest moments as Kirk. It's still powerful today.
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It'll backfire ( after all this ) if he isn't someone special. IE. A new character or something.
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July 13, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST
@ real deal. Yeah, I think he's really an all new character. Nero was an all new villian.
by v3d
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It cannot be denied that Urban's McCoy was amazing. He stole every scene he was in.
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How could it be anything but Khan? For God's sake, you see him in cryo! Mr. Urban is just throwing out more smoke screen. My only question is, why wouldn't "old Spock" warn the "new Kirk" about the things he's about to face? "Uh...oh ya...by the way, if you find a ship called the Botany Bay at these exact coordinates, you might want to just let those fuckers sleep."
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July 13, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST
The only reason Gaiman is doing the Sandman sequel is because...
by Hardboiled Wonderland
DC was going to do it without him.
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I detest you. You are a loathsome, ignorant fool. Star Trek had two great films - The Wrath of Khan and First Contact, and one good one - The Motion Picture. The rest of it was crap. Abrams' Star Trek was better than The Search for Dreck, The Voyage Homo, Flatulent Frontier, Undiscovered Idiocy, De-Generations, Ins Your Erection, and Name Me Sis. It is at least the fourth best Trek film. So stop bleating your arrogant ignorance around here. You just look like an idiot, a pathetic clown. At best you are an annoyance, but mostly you are an object of scorn and derision. You're too fucking stupid to realize this, of course, and will keep barking like an angry, constipated puppy. Here's hoping you find your own private Humongous to stick his dick in your ass and keep you away from this site.
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Sounds like his well has gone dry and he needs to rekindle some fame. If it isn't great, it will just be pathetic, and I'm betting that it's pathetic. I'll give it a chance, but I don't think lightning is going to strike twice. Nah, this is mostly likely a way to pay the mortgage. It'll be a snoozefest.
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If the Gary Mitchel rumor is true, here's what I think. Gary is a friend of maybe SPOCK this time, based on pics. Kirk the 1st time said Gary was his problem, and we have seen Spock & U battle him in production pics. Maybe Spock befriended him this time. There is a spacewalk scene, looks to be big. Does this cause Gary to go God Like?? Is there a "barrier" they pass through?? Does the blond also have ESP or is it even ESP this time?? So I see it as the Enterprise battling the klingons and during this key battle sequence in the movies' middle.. GM get's affected, becomes an issue and in a very hard battle at the end Spock or U kills GM... Kirk learns a lot, but is it him or Kirk that has to kill his friend... almost what INSURRECTION started out as... an APocolypse Now theme...
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July 14, 2012, 12:11 a.m. CST
A couple other sites said that maybe Urban meant Gary Seven from the TOS episode Assignment:Earth, not Gary Mitchell
by Deaft0ne
based on the on set pics of Quinto and Benny fighting and Benny appears to be impervious to the Vulcan Nerve Pinch and Gary Seven is the only character from Star Trek to ever be resistant to it and it having no effect on him. Basing this ST sequel on Assignment:Earth would make for a decent movie if done well.
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July 14, 2012, 12:56 a.m. CST
The best form of publicity, even for Paramount?
by Trying_It_Again_Part_2
FREE publicity. Well played by everyone involved. You know the suits, Urban, Abrams, everybody, are having a good laugh.
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Glad to see Urban has a good sense of humor.
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