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but...they are gonna drag this out...so i cant herc...are you surprised at all the talent bowing out of movies for tv series?
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but i still watch, with a little glimmer of hope it comes back to being the show it once was
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Oh Oh Spaghettio's!
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show should always be bleeped, it's more entertaining.
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I am not. Call the radio show Saturday if you want to learn why.
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That would have warranted an: OH SNAP! Nowadays, it warrants a: Who fucking cares? Seriously, Dexter needs to strap himself to the goddamn table and end this nonsense.
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What a useless and dickish response, Harry.
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The last two seasons have been horrible for the most part. I'm very curious to see how Dexter gets Deb to let him dispose of the body or at least let him escape and have her claim the place was empty when she arrived.
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I'm always glad to see Dexter and Supernatural get coverage here.
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I'm out. Last two seasons were barely watchable. Now she catches him mid ritual and he somehow sells it as self defense... Miami police can't be that retarded.
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He's not selling it as self defense, he said that's what happened first when he knocked him out. Think this will add a dynamic to Dexter that's been missing for several seasons. Question is how far will Deb go to save her brother and how crazy is he gonna get when he can't kill because she's around him?
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July 13, 2012, 12:54 a.m. CST
Only ends two ways.......him getting away with it or he's on death row
by Punisherthunder
It could only end with either scenario.
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July 13, 2012, 2:50 a.m. CST
The way they got to 'that' position at the end of season 6 felt totally unearned
by tomdolan04
I'm on the edge with this show. <p> If they use this as a springboard to start breaking up the status quo of the show and it all going to hell towards the finale next year - great. <p> I swear to god though, if what plays out after the trailer above is: "Oh Debs. Don't call them. He really did fall into my knife five times" and Debs is like "Hmmm...OK" and normal service is resumed by the end of episode 2 until the season finale when this 'incident' gets shoehorned in again, then I'm out. <p> Whilst Seasons 5 and 6 were still watchable, bar Dex flipping out in the opener after Ritas death, Julia Stiles and Colin Hanks being in them, something with a painting of Dexter as the devil and Miami Metro running round like the Scooby Gang, I'm really hard pressed to remember any specific incidents or standout epsiode in two years worth of show.
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I have a feeling it'll end with Dexter teaching Harrison Harry's "code" and getting away with it. Life goes on, sort of thing. Hopefully they'll surprise us and come up with something we didn't see coming, but the last few seasons have proven that these writers don't want to take this show into territory that would be too dark or dramatically challenging (like Dexter on trial, going to prison, etc. – I just don't see that happening).
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She's a detective, and a good one. I reckon we are going to see a degradation of their relationship, she will have to put two and two together and realise he is the Bay Harbour Butcher and see him somehow complicit, in some way, of her lovers death. Plus we have the geek psycho with the mannequin arm in his apartment to worry about. These next two seasons are going to be tightly linked and a lot of fun! Roll on September!
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Dex desperate to stay out of prison, begs Deb to take him out back and put him down like Ol' Yeller. BANG!!! Back of the head. Thats after Dex kills LaGuarta when she reopens the Bay Harbor Butcher case ;)
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R.I.P. Doakes =(
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Glad to see she is getting work post-Chuck.
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Cant wait.Yes sometimes it can be a little far fetched but it is quality entertainment that is way better than 90% of TV.
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who had the balls for stopping Dex
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But wasn't she wrapped up, the exact same way, in season 1 in the back of the ice cream truck by her fiance? How does anyone (meaning Deb here) forget that? Wouldn't the entire scene feel INCREDIBLY eerie to what happened before? Wouldn't her detective instincts kick in and go, 'SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT HERE.' There's no way he can talk his way out of it and it's kinda sad to see that's what the show's writers are intending to do. The only real way out was to have Deb freak out/pass out/black out and forget everything she saw. Or Dexter kill her (which isn't really an option). I mean...Dexter literally LOOKS like a serial killer (in mid-kill) when she walks in. The scene completely resembles something straight out of her past. How she could ever 'accept' what she sees as 'okay' is total horseshit.
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sorry for the confusion
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It's like those Western serials of the 1950's. The situation at the end of season 6 - DEXTER / MAIN PROTAGONIST IS SERIOUSLY FUCKED in that everything should make Debs, a trained supposedly smart Detective who went through shit in series 1, go - the jig is up. Next episode? All is well.<p> Getting the impression that series 7, he'll just talk his way out of it and they'll be no consequences bar the odd 'I cant forget what you did' and long, spacey glances between the two all season. Thematically I like the journey of Dexter, but in terms of consequences nothing has really changed in six years bar Rita's death. And bar the obvious 'angst', this didn't really change the show. Sure you can make that argument against many shows, but with Dexter it is somehow all the more noticable to the point it's getting all too predictable. <p> When you have a show about a guy who kills bad people graphically become a bit...dull, you're doing something wrong (and I like the show as a whole) <p> *tomdolan has a thirty minute monologue with the vision of his dead father about being torn about turning against Dexter for the 70th odd time*
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deb finds out about his killing nature early on...she struggles with it and eventually accepts what he is and what he does. she even ends up sending him after people she can't get through legal avenues. i'm hoping that's how the series plays out as well...but they've already changed so much from the books, that anything is possible at this point. and the books are terrible after the first one.
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My hope, with Deb discovering Dexter's secret, was that Dexter was going to now move in a more sophisticated Breaking Bad-style direction. But it looks as if he's simply going to lie his way out of getting caught ... AGAIN ... which strains credibility and doesn't move the story forward. I hope I'm wrong.
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But then I didn't see anything from Season 6. Didn't have a problem with Season 5, though it was hard to top Lithgow. I'm in it til the last cut. Michael C. Hall is a great actor.
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July 13, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST
Dex S6 wasnt stellar but it wasnt a turd like Mad Men S5
by AshokForgiven
As much as I didnt like Dexter S6... at least it actually had a plot which progressed on a weekly basis, as opposed to drivel like Treme and Mad Men.
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I was hoping that S5 was an anomaly, but S6 (after a promising 4-5 episode stretch) went straight down the toilet. Season 6 felt like a bad horror movie sequel where they try to up the body count to entertain viewers. Dex goes to a motel in Nebraska and ends up killing the manager. Dex gets rescued by a boat captained by a dangerous guy smuggling immigrants and quickly ends up killing him? That's just lazy storytelling. And how in the world did he get Travis Marshall's unconscious body off that rooftop? Lazy storytelling. If it's so implausible that you have to just cut away and show him later in the car, then come up with a different scenario. And Deb's feelings for Dex? Gag me. The producers just need to shut the fuck up about how they're not biologically brother and sister. Harry adopted Dex when he was like 2 years old. Deb has known him as her brother since then. It's not like Boone and Shannon on Lost, where they got thrown together when they were 12 or 13. I'll still watch Dexter to see how things play out, but I'm afraid the quality of S5-S6 is what we can expect for the final two seasons. It's a shame, because this show was one of the best on television for the first 4 years.
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July 13, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST
re: "are you surprised at all the talent bowing out of movies for tv series?"
by jim
My two cents: No. Not with cable shows that have only 10 or 12 episodes. For the film actor guest stars it would be similar to shooting a movie (a few months work). Also, TV, especially many cable shows, have much better writing, and more interesting and even challenging characters for the film actors to embrace, than most feature films do. TV is no longer the "step down", career-wise, that it was once considered to be.
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He didn't get out of the cock-a-doody car!
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Thats what Dexter is saying, doesn't mean she's buying it. She could be trying to convince herself that it isn't what it looks like because if it is what it looks like then her whole world is fucked. If you watch other promos it looks like she knows. So before you say "i cant believe the writers are pulling this lame shit" wait until you find out what is ACTUALLY going on.
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One part of Dexter I enjoy is that if you removed Dexter from the show, you could have an OK show about a group of Miami cops who sleep with each other, fight alcoholism, etc... It's like someone said "let's make a cop show and say f-it, one of the supporting characters is a psycho." None of the politics or interpersonal relationship stuff matters to Dexter, so when Batista calls Dexter his best friend or there are other "dramatic" interactions it can be funny because he truly does not care one bit about them. The same holds true for the suburban life they stuck him in for awhile.
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Any hope I had for this being a decent penultimate season just got flushed. Deb continues to be a fucking retard.
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Take out Dex's killing, focus on the sleeping together, infighting and completely fucking bizarre crime scene process of Miami Metro alongside Dexter being never, EVER at work despite leaving his kid with a permanent sitter coupled with the blatant nature of him turning up at crime scenes, taking key evidence all over the place then buggering off...<p> Speed it up a bit, cut down the dialogue, throw in the Benny Hill music and you probably have the finest comedy of modern times. Especially if they kept the bleeps as they stand in the trailer above.
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I can't imagine who would watch this show for the plot anymore. Everything without Dexter involved was garbage from the start. Now even Dexter himself is written horribly. Hall is acting his ass off, though. Can't wait to see what show he does next after this one's finally over. I think I'll spare myself the rest of this show. It's not worth it, even for Hall.
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July 13, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST
That didn't light my fire the way I had so hoped, but....
by YourMomsBox3D
at least they didn't go the route I thought for sure they would take, with Dexter explaining about how he found Travis already strapped to the table, tortured, and begging to be finished off or something -- and Deb buying it. Given the way the past two seasons have gone, I am hedging my expectations for this final arc, but I seriously wish that they would toss us a curveball, and have Dexter on the lam all this season with Deb trying to bring him in as he allows the Dark Passenger to take over more and more. Then, at the end of the season, have him arrested and finish shit off next year like Silence of the Lambs, with Dexter unable to hunt the bad guy for himself, but forced to use his expertise in order to help Deb and company capture him. You could even have the final two or three episodes revolving around an elaborate escape for Dexter. I wouldn't even care if they flat-out ripped SOTL off and had the show ending with Dexter calling Deb from Mexico to say goodbye, as he eyes up his next victim.
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July 13, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST
Re: tigger_tales... you are saying season 1 is the worst, and 5+6 the best...
by Duckenheimer
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Season 1 and 2 were excellent. After that it went downhill. However it is still fun to see the characters interacting. Hopefully Dexter gets smart once more and stops making stupid decisions.
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Instead of realizing that her brother is a serial killer when she oh, I don't know - FINDS HIM STANDING OVER A NAKED DEAD MAN WRAPPED IN PLASTIC WITH A KNIFE STICKING OUT OF HIS CHEST - Deb will buy Dexter's bullshit story about being full of rage over Rita's death and not actually realize the truth about him until they've dragged it out over the whole season instead of just getting on with the fucking story already. You heard it here first. When the season wraps up, please return to this thread and shower me with praise. Like someone else said, without the strength of Michael C. Hall's performance, I'd have given up on this crap show long ago. You
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That would be fun...
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July 13, 2012, 1:12 p.m. CST
As a new Dexter fan with no preconceived notions, season 6 was THE WORST
by Tim
My girlfriend and I tore through the entire series in like 2 months. We loved every season, though both agreed the first one was by far the best. We loved the show, watched it anytime we were bored even though by the third season the formula was already very predictable. And we GAVE UP during season 6. It was just so bad, such a fucking rehash of ideas and such damn proof that this show if afraid to try anything new.
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July 13, 2012, 1:21 p.m. CST
ashokforgiven, comparing Dexter 6 to ANY Mad Men season is fucking ridiculous. Especially the brilliant season 5.
by Tim
No. You've just killed all credibility, sir. Mad Men season 5 was 1) the best season of Mad men so far, and 2) one of the best seasons of television ever. If you make a Mad Men "greatest hits" with the top ten episodes, AT LEAST 4 of them are gonna be from this past season. And while Dexter started off at it's peak and slowly went downhill, Mad Men has gotten better with each and every season.
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is that last season, we more or less found out that Deb, fucked up as she is, is in love with her adopted brother Dexter. That kind of changes everything. Whether or not the incest angle is for you, or if it's where you want the show to go, or if you can even give it a shot after the last two terrible seasons, that's up to you. But judging from this clip, and the clues from last season, Deb isn't going to just ignore this and let the show go on as if this didn't happen. And for the record, I thought the cracks in the ceiling appeared during the much-loved Lithgow season. I love me some Lithgow, but that season is when the writing started to get quite lazy and inconsistent. But I'm giving this season another chance - the two minutes above actually have me sold so far. Something is happening. We'll see, I'll give them another shot. (Actually it would have to get even worse than last season to get me to give up on the character, knowing he has two seasons left. But it could happen.)
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July 13, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST
Deb and LaGuerta are the two biggest differences from the books to series. SPOILER.
by v3d
At the end of the first book, Darkly Dreaming Dexter which was adapted into Season 1, LaGuerta is killed and Deb finds out Dexter is a serial killer. And Doakes meets a much worse fate in the books.
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July 13, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
in regards to talent taking tv over movie gigs...im not talking about the perception of lowering career
by walt
tv is not a stable environment
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Dont know why someone compares this show to Mad Men but both are great. Mad men was superior this last season. But i still think without the lane and new wife storylines mad men was b.s. this season. Mad men does what it does and repeats it. Its just less noticable then Dexter about it. Ooooh Peggys quit. Lets not show her really the rest of the season when you know she will be back in some way soon. Same way mad men drops characters only to bring them back, Dexter slowly builds to the last couple episodes of their seasons. Every opening episode of a Dexter season has been a reset in some way. Wouldnt it be amazing if Deb says "no" shes calling the police, and Dexter says "you let me go that other time." (referencing jordan chase and debs evolution into darkness) and then it dawns on her who Dex is and she is so blown away that she does let him go? Or he uses that failure in her policework/ethics from S5 to exploit in her as leverage to get her to let him go from this Travis crimescene. I think it would. I like it when they take care of the continuity even if its from a hoe-hum episode from two seasons ago. Like the build up of the margo martindale character, or how they feature the trinity killers son in S4, and S6.
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I have to say that I wish they had stuck closer to the books in the adaptation of this series. I love the TV series, but I can't help but think that some of the dynamics of the series would be greatly improved if they (SPILERS FOR THE BOOKS): had Debra find out in the beginning, had the ITK get away, had LaGuerta die, and had Doakes maimed. The books go off the rails sometimes, but they are still pretty entertaining.
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Damned small-ass laptop keyboard...
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My guess is that Dexter will convince her to let him get rid of the plastic, move the body off the table and take off. I can't see her letting him dispose of the body and hopefully she blackmails him into being sick or unavailable for the investigation. If she just lets him leave then the evidence left behind will make for a better storyline. It looks like he's going to continue play this off as his first kill and Deb won't piece things together until the end of this season.
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Then they signed Strahovski. Those fuckers got me again!
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Scott Buck was the new show runner last season and I can't, for the life of me, imagine why showtime would give him another shot at this. He's destroyed the show that so many people loved. The last season was unwatchably bad. The so-so Lumen season before it was a masterpiece, by comparison. I was going to stick it out through the final season, then they had to split it (which all fallen shows seem to do now with their final season), and now this bullshit. I'm done with it. Maybe if I hear later it was amazing, I'll catch it on netflix, but Scott Buck is incapable of producing anything but bottom of the barrel trash. It's now worse than 90% of the TV out there. What kills me, is that this is such an easy show to wrap up, it practically writes itself. But they can't even manage that. And the whole middle aged incest angle is a classic shark jump moment. There's no coming back from that nonsense.
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I haven't seen Dexter since season 3 but your assessment of Mad Men and Treme as drivel doesn't exactly inspire confidence that you're right about season 6. Last season of Mad Men was Wire-Season-4-good, one of the best seasons of a TV show ever. Gave up on Dexter in season 3 when it became obvious the writers were not going to break with formula, from the looks of it its gone downhill pretty fast since then. Deb in love with Dex? Really?
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Have to agree with you. He ran the show totally into the ground with the most lame and cliche season of Dexter I can possibly imagine.
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People just accept that shit since its from the guy that made the wire and has lots of music.
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But mainly because I had a baby born last September and had no time to watch. Although I do think the show went on a decline in season 5, I still want to watch season 6, but seeing this scene seems like a desperate attempt to get viewers. The set up on this scene has been years in the making and now I see it out of context!? Not cool, kind of a letdown.
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I cannot wait
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