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Published at: July 11, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST by merrick

Even though, for whatever reason, I suck at playing BATMAN: ARKHAM CITY, I love, love, LOVE the game...I just make a piss-poor Batman I suppose.  

Given the title's overall awesomeness, and it's immense success, it's no surprise at all that The Powers That Be would be looking to launch a third Bat-game of the same ilk (ARKHAM CITY followed-up ARKHAM ASYLUM).  What is a tad surprising, although not really when one stops to think about it,  is that said proposed third game may end up incorporating Justice League characters. 

New, highly stylized title is being developed as a prequel that revolves around Batman's first meeting with the Joker. It's based on the Silver Age of DC's comicbooks from the 1950s when the Caped Crusader teamed with other heroes like Superman and founded the Justice League of America.

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New game would likely bow in 2014 at the earliest.

...says Variety HERE

This is, evidently, part of an effort by WB to grow the JUSTICE LEAGUE characteras and branding, and increase their overall visibility, as the studio slowly moves towards a live action JUSTICE LEAGUE feature film at some point down the road.That film, we recently learned, is currently being scripted by GANGSTER SQUAD's Will Beal, and represents (as far as we know) the first significant effort to bring The JL to the big screen since George Miller's high-profile CGI extravaganza was scuttled a few years ago.

Towards similar ends, we've recently learned that the upcoming LEGO movie will include LEGO variations of Batman and Superman (details HERE), and LEGO iterations of Justice League characters play a significant role in the rather awesome LEGO BATMAN 2: DC Super Heroes game which was recently released.  Youthful variations on DC heroes can also be seen on Cartoon Network's YOUNG JUSTICE series. 

What I'm really curious about is:  given that the super-shitty GREEN LANTERN didn't exactly se the world on fire...and that Bale is supposedly stepping down from the Batman role (we've heard nothing certain about plans for a relaunch of that series)...and that we don't know how Cavill is gonna shake out as Supes next year...HOW does Warner intend to go about pulling together a JL movie?  Cast any roles not currently occupied by an actor in an existing DC film franchise (of which there may be few or none) anew?  With the hopes of spinning them off into their own adventures if the JL movie is a success?  Would seem to be the only real option.  O, just approach the whole shebang as a "blank slate" and let the JL movie universe be it's own unique thing, regardless of what is or is not happening with other DC film properties around them?  Might actually be easier.  

Thinking aloud here.  Fun food for thought.  Stay tuned...

 

 

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  • July 11, 2012, 11:56 a.m. CST

    edit WB not DC

    by Mark Jones

  • July 11, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Don't do what Marvel did....

    by StoryFirst

    Just go straight out and make the movie. No individual movies or stories. Just make the film. New actors, a kick ass story, and a solid budget. Build it, and they will come....

  • July 11, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Just keep the Mighty Duck kid out of the cowl.

    by jimbojones123

    Please.

  • plus it would be pretty cool if the world batman deals with in the new game (and the look of the JLA, etc) looked more like retro-futurism of DC's past, but that was about to fall apart or was filthy just below the surface

  • July 11, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Beebop too, wingkong?

    by jimbojones123

  • July 11, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    JL won't work like Avengers

    by dead youngling

  • July 11, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST

    justice league of AMERICA

    by kaijuturtle

    AMERICAAAA, people, JLAAAAAAaaaaaayyy, drop all the global branding / PC sh*t, bring some American values. Captain America shouldn't hog all the glory, and Spidey as "working-class hero" in all his movie incarnations? C'mon!

  • July 11, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST

    WB's approach flawed majorly. But I need to play Arkam City

    by Wcwlkr

    I mean you can't just say just Avengers broke Box Office records, a Justice League movie would instantly do the same. Yes you don't have to copy their mold exactly. But the build up to the Avengers was what made it just as awesome. And even though you might put the Justice League together in video game form, or cartoon form might increase their exposure. You still don't have that awesome build like with the Avengers. Unrelated I totally need to play Arkam City.

  • July 11, 2012, noon CST

    The world is a lesser place without a Miller JLA

    by Nomoredirtyanything

    Fuck all assholes who brought it undone...... I cannot wait for Fury Road.

  • July 11, 2012, noon CST

    DC trying to ride Avenger's success.

    by SlickyVonBoner

    And they will fail, cause DC sucks and most of their characters are gay. Even the cool ones.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST

    They are jumping the formula....

    by Taragor

    What made it work for Marvel was the slow progression and hit movies of their individual characters and the weaving in of sub characters (Hawkeye and Black Widow, as well as Agent Colson). By just jumping in to a JLA movie with many A list actors (ok I'm not counting Ryan I'm now going to screw with the Highlander franchise Reynolds) having just played their main characters it seems like a mistake to me. Just suck it up and reboot all your franchises over the next few years with Batman being the last one right before a JLA movie. The public has shown they will support this time of build up. Look at the success Thor had for his single movie as the momentum built towards the Avengers movie.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST

    I will play that game.

    by JediRob

    Yes. Yes I will.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:01 p.m. CST

    by MaoMao

    The next movies should be: Wonder Woman Flash - With multiverse jumping. Crisis on Infinite Earths (or another Infinite title)

  • July 11, 2012, 12:02 p.m. CST

    That brings back memories jimbo :-)

    by Mark Jones

  • The other characters don't have to be a draw.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:09 p.m. CST

    So they kill the Joker...

    by Lee

  • July 11, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    ...only to bring him back in the sequel.

    by Lee

    As much as I love Arkham City, I'm not particularly interested in anything dealing with that character.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST

    THE AMAZING SUPERMAN

    by zooch

    plot sounds exactly the same

  • July 11, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST

    How about stop motion panel by panel of Kingdom Come

    by Mr Soze

  • July 11, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Why it will not work for the Justice League:

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

    Marvel decided to launch their own movie company, and do the films the way they wanted to do. Marvel films that are made from Sony, Fox, Lionsgate tend to have problems due to interference from those company's executives on how the movies should be made. DC comics is owned by Warner Brothers, and they continue to dip their input on how the films should be made. With the exception of Nolan's Batman, everything that has came out of WB's DC films have sucked. If WB really wanted to make a Justice League movie work, they should put together a seperate film division for the DC characters, and let someone like Geoff Johns be in creative control on how the characters/films are made.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Just finished Arkham Asylum! So awesome!

    by Johnno

    Gonna go pick up Arkham City sometime! I think Rocksteady ought to wait and put out the next Batman Arkham World or whatever on PS4/720 using UnReal Engine 4. DC should just start off with a Justice League film with all the cast in a retro/fantastical world like WATCHMEN.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Order of coolness

    by DrGogol

    DCAU > Marvel live action movies > Marvel animated > DC live action

  • July 11, 2012, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Green Lantern derailed this.

    by donkey_lasher

    And Batman is the only cool DC character. In the JL series he seems really out of place. REALLY. Like this ordinary guy getting slammed right into a mix of super powered people in tights. Oh, and the main dude is an alien with super strength (which fluctuates every 10 years so that he can beat anyone the writers throw at him)

  • For the record, I thought Avengers more or less found a way to balance RDJ's Iron Man, with the other less popular guys. A JLA movie will have every other hero standing around watching in awe as Batman does everything by himself. They need to make Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman, GL, etc. be entirely incompetent to show how cool Batman really is. Yawn. I'd love to be wrong. Prove me wrong Warner, make an awesome JLA flick, please.

  • Those two know how to make the Justice League work! They are responsible for some of the best Superman, Batman, and Justice League stories on the small screen! Why aren't they being consulted? Makes no fucking sense! FFS, Dini wrote the stories for the Batman games! Call these guys!

  • July 11, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST

    3rd game could be a prequel and sequel

    by cairo

    start the game straight after the events of Arkham City with bats tracking down Hush. Add on the Jokers (inevitable) return and mix in the story of Joker and Bats first meeting in a series of playable flashbacks that way you get to keep all the established characters and see the old story

  • July 11, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I'm all for any silver age stuff.

    by gotilk

    a third Bat-game of the same ILK

  • July 11, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I've never met anyone over 12 years old or five-foot-two who was a DC fan

    by Adam D. Kline

    We all know it's true. DC is for immature manbabies, Marvel is where the true characters and stories are at.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Green Lantern was fuckin' awesome

    by Joely_Boy

    You got to see live action Green Lanterns: the intergalactic space corps, Oa, the Guardians of the Galaxy... fuckin' awesome mythology... yeah, I'm a bit biased, if you love something enough it's hard to see any flaws haha

  • What the games did well is incorporating cameos and weaving many minor roles from the pantheon of Batman characters and villains but again Batman should be the star of that show, so I'd rather not see the Justice League play a huge role in the game. Have them pop up at times and cross path with Batman to show the larger world but don't over do it.

  • July 11, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    I think they should do a period piece set in the WWII era

    by Chain

  • July 11, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST

    And the Green Lantern 3D Blu ray is delicious

    by Joely_Boy

    Psychedelic trip through outer space... in 3D! Just as awesome as the trip through the nine realms in the end credits of Thor... so awesome

  • Most of us are already familiar with the Mythos of Supes, Bats, etc. ergo there's no need to go the route Marvel did especially since DC's characters are more established and recognizable. After MOS, that's a wrap. Time to get the ball rolling. Oh, and include Captain Marvel or else...!

  • July 11, 2012, 12:54 p.m. CST

    JUSTICE LEAGUE

    by Jared Parker

    the movie has to be it's own entity. it shouldn't copy the avengers style. i would still love to see lucy lawless as wonder woman in a WONDER WOMAN film, and maybe the JL film, too

  • July 11, 2012, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Don't involve Geoff Johns

    by Snookeroo

    Unless you want a two hour movie of every member of the Justice League getting impaled, sliced to bits, torn to shreds, and buckets of blood. Frankly, that's his one-trick pony.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Snookeroo

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

    I think you have Johns mistaken for Robert Kirkman.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Youthful Variations on DC Heroes

    by Ky-El

    Not really a good description of YOUNG JUSTICE. All the DC Heroes are adults and in their prime. The show revolves around their younger proteges that also are already pre-existing characters from comics Superboy, Robin, Kid Flash etc. So there's really no variations just a shifted focus on the characters it follows.

  • I love L.L, but her prime years for such a role are gone my friend.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:15 p.m. CST

    It's tricky...

    by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch

    Ideally, WB would want to follow the Avengers gameplan, but Green Lantern fucked it up, Bale possibly being not involved fucks it up and not knowing how the public will respond to Cavill is a HUGE question mark. That said, ignoring the movies they've already made and making a standalone Justice League movie sounds like the most sensible thing but it could also be a disaster. WB and DC need to get on the same page right now as how to approach this. You can't put out a Superman movie with Cavill one year and then put a JL movie out with a completely different Supes a couple of years later. They should have had a plan and they should have aped Marvel and made sure the tone & execution of Green Lantern would match up with the Nolan created universe that the fans love so much. You'd hate to see the whole DC universe rebooted because Green Lantern was such an unmitigated disaster, but if you think back to the Hulk, neither movie not being great (didn't love the Norton one) derailed the Marvel plan in the end. It all really hinges on Batman. I haven't read spoilers and am avoiding reading them. I can't imagine not continuing the JL in the Nolan universe. He may not have to direct them, but he will need to oversee them in every stage to make sure the tone is right.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:28 p.m. CST

    re: "Arkham World or whatever"

    by buggerbugger

    Arkham State or Arkham Nation, maybe?

  • July 11, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    A separate continuity and cast for JLA would be a terrible idea

    by Wormie1

    Much of The Avengers' success was due to the teaming up of the established actors (with one exception). The ridiculously cast George Miller JLA movie thankfully fell apart. Assuming Cavill is good in Man of Steel, he should play Supes in any Justice League film. Ryan Reynolds could return as Green Lantern. I don't think the lack of success of his movie would hurt JLA as he would just be one of several stars. Obviously, Batman will be rebooted after The Dark Knight Rises, so the new actor could be introduced in either JLA or his own film. Wonder Woman and The Flash could have their own films before JLA or spin-off afterwards. Anyway, the idea of separate continuities and casts running at the same time with the same characters would be incredibly stupid.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST

    I wish Justice League of America was never fucking invented

    by cgih8r

    Only hardcore fans really give a shit about the Justice League. Batman and Superman as far as I'm concerned belong in separate universes. The very mention of Superman in Batman's Year One comic cheapened the story.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Thats actually not a bad idea

    by rakesh patel

    Go Big Bang into the movie with big budget and A-Listers, Spin off individual character movies from it ( the movie allows you to see who's popular). Man of steel acts as tentpole. Dees away with the obligatory extended origin bollocks and gets down to the nitty gritty. Dc universe Online cinema trailer.. if that was real it would do avenger type figures.

  • I am willing to bet a paycheck on that!

  • July 11, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Just make good movies DC

    by shane peterson

    instead of putting them into video games and you will have a great launch to the JL universe.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST

    AGAIN! Fucking get Dini and Timm on the phone!!!

    by Judge Briggs

  • July 11, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I think rocksteady could make a great green lantern game

    by Adelai Niska

    but Superman doesn't work in games. He's too powerful. At any time, he could fly through the walls, circle the planet, and burn anything in his way. Doesn't really fit with the confines of a video game level. The flash would be hard too. Maybe o a sort of Mirror's Edge where the flash has to speed-run around obstacles?

  • July 11, 2012, 1:47 p.m. CST

    lol

    by Mickster_Island

    That is all.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST

    JLA

    by MJAYACE

    Just ignore Aquaman please. I like all the characters but frankly Aquaman stinks. that Justice League 50's era movie that came out a couple of years ago was pretty good, the cartoon from a decade or so ago was very good. Skip anymore individual movies and start with the JLA.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST

    This happens based on success of Man of Steel and Cavill

    by harry

    My interpretation of JLA is that Superman is the true leader. He is iconic, and everyone looks up to him. He is the natural leader, and should be. Problem is we dont have Christopher Reeve anymore. If he were alive...I would say bring on Kingdom Come live action adaptation! Since Superman Returns failed, a Justice League movie really depends on the success of Man of Steel and Cavill. If either one of those aspects doesnt do well, a Justice League movie wont work. Sure you can recast Superman again, but then what would be the point? The audiences would be turned off. And if you make Superman a side character in a JLA movie?...gimmie a break...already a fail. I love Batman, but DC's Justice League movie to me means Superman's leadership and powers bring everyone together. Batman cant be the go to guy in the Justice League movie, and with today's audience being fickle about other DC characters...that is part of the problem.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't mind seeing Superman show up in an Arkham sequel

    by Bass Ackwards

    And maybe the Arkham crew could spin that off into a Superman game, and with Superman then you get to really expand the super hero verse, and let that ultimately lead to a JL game. Prequel is less fun though, I like to see universe building, not ret-conning.

  • July 11, 2012, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Merrick - to get better just....

    by IEatHippies

    WAIT until you land a punch to throw another one.... then build and build and build while incorporating counter-moves into a perfect string and you will OWN. Use gadgets like the bat-hook mid-combo to really spice things up and it will be a cake-walk and you will feel like a GOD.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST

    I would love post WWII Cold War JLA movie in the mold of New Frontier.

    by whatevillurks

  • July 11, 2012, 2:13 p.m. CST

    dc lego 3d movie better be hard R or pass.

    by vulturess

  • July 11, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST

    JL Movie

    by Ted_Naifeh

    At this late date, since they flubbed Lantern and put Wonder Woman on ice, they'll most likely go straight into a JL movie. Which seems impossible, until you remember that it worked (more or less) just fine with the X-Men movie. Here's an idea. The next Batman, instead of just being a reboot, could show Batman first meeting the Justice League. Even more interestingly, it could follow the Justice League: Doom storyline, and be about how Batman, the outsider superhero, effectively attacks each member of the Justice League and takes them down. Then, it's revealed that it's not Batman himself, but someone else who breaks into the Batcave and steals Batman's contingency plans for neutralizing the League. Batman must take action to rescue the rest of the League from his own death traps, and he must gain their trust in order to unite them against the common foe. Basically, it's Batman in the Wolverine role of X-Men. But it also has legitimate reason for Batman to fight each Justice League member. And only Batman is currently positioned to introduce the rest of the League to the movie world. It's a JL movie that's also the Batman reboot, that would definitely be a take on Batman the mainstream hasn't seen before, but still be the dark, mysterious Batman we love.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST

    I want another Batman:Arkham game!!!!!

    by Thanos0145

    Why ruin a good thing that Rocksteady has going with Batman? Warner Bros. are clueless when it comes to their IPs. How about hiring a Kevin Feige type person who has a plan in bringing these characters to the big screen. Having too many cooks in the kitchen will only bring us more Jonah Hex and Green Lantern disasters.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Worried about GL, Batman roles????

    by professor murder

    Well, make Justice League THEE relaunch/reboot. Justice League will start them ALL anew and fresh, then solo movies can spawn from that, and another Justice League movie down the road from that. I think Reynolds and Cavill can still keep their roles for a Justice League movie, and Batman should just remake himself with his new actor. Maybe never take his mask off. We don't need to go behind the life of Batman if this is truly a Justice League movie. Keep him in the suit the whole movie and then afterwards, the next solo batman movie can more show his Wayne-ness. Just a thought.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST

    DC also-rans

    by Pabodie

    At this point, Warners/DC is in the same bind with their movies that they are in with their comics. In one corner, Marvel, with what is now the most successful film franchise going, The Avengers (and attendant offshoots). In the other corner, DC, with the most popular superhero in film (Batman), and a bunch of other heroes with silly names and little to no brand recognition outside of comic shops. Marvel has beaten DC to the punch in movies and TV, staying in front of their audience with high-quality, segmented content that, more and more, is all singing from the same mythos sheet and canon. Marvel's done the ww2 thing, the 60s thing, the modern thing, the kiddie thing, the gritty thing... At this point DC has little room to innovate, and their one big attempt at it--Green Lantern--was a failure. I expect Warners to re-boot Batman, and I'll go, because I love Batman. But a JLA movie is hard to get excited for unless you are already in the fan base. Doesn't seem like a smart idea. What they ought to do is create a new character at Warners, and then... Oh yeah, Hancock. Sorry i just don't see it.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST

    DC, WB, MOS, JLA and Nolan.

    by UltimaRex

    Last year WB chief Jeff Robinov told the LA Times that Nolan was producing "Batman 4" and that he wanted him to produce JL. This week Nolan said that TDKR and MOS was it for him and he wasn't getting involved any more beyond that. What happened? In all likelihood a "JLverse". WB saw the business Avengers did and wants the same. That means a shared universe that Nolan will not get behind. However, Nolan is still producing MOS. If it "underperforms" (it's Superman Punches, it CAN'T flop) then Superman will be recast anyway. If it's a hit, then what? Nolan does NOT want "his" Superman in the JL and WB WILL want him to produce the sequel(s). JL will have a different Superman.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Armie Hammer for JL's Superman.

    by UltimaRex

    On that point...

  • July 11, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Peter Jackson's Justice League.

    by UltimaRex

    Coming 2015.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Would much rather see an Authority movie...

    by kungfuhustler84

    Mind you, that does NOT mean I want to see a hard-assed, darker Justice League movie where everyone is brooding and killing supervillains. DC's heroes only work as children's fables, and if you want to tell a story that actually examines superbeings in a modern world, the Authority is the way to go. It's probably never gonna happen, but hey if the Ultimates can get made into a movie, why not another great Hitch book? I agree, if they wanna make a JL movie they should just do it: no lead-ins, no spin-offs. Just make a fun adventure with a brand new cast and direction at family entertainment. Nolan's Batverse wouldn't work with the Justice League because it's too grounded in its own reality. Make a world where superheroes changed everything, where danger is everywhere and an alien invasion is just Tuesday. AND DON'T FORGET J'ONN J'ONZZ!! The Martian Manhunter has been in every iteration of the League since its inception (excluding the new 52 of course, but FUCK THAT MEDIOCRE SHIT) and if he's not in the JL movie, well that would just be super lame. Just look at DC: New Frontier. That's how you start the League off right, and it has one of the best interpretations of Wonder Woman I've ever seen.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST

    This is fucking moronic.

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Just leave the classic Arkham games the fuck alone as their own entity. I think most fans were looking forward to Rockstar capping things off with one more game - Gotham City - and then moving forward from there.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Next Batman game should be Gotham City, duh

    by kungfuhustler84

    with the Batmobile and co-op vigilante play! This just sounds like more DLC, not a full game package...

  • July 11, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST

    I liked GL

    by shran

    I don't care what people think. So nyah.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    World's Finest

    by Clark Kunt

    Some of my favorite stories were in World's Finest, which featured Batman and Superman team-up to work together. I believe Nolan's Batman and Man Of Steel could meld together in this way. It would be a very cool introduction to the concept of DC characters working together. it could even include Green Lantern in a cameo, and lay the ground work for Batman and Superman establishing a Justice League. WB/DC could test the waters with this. it would be a really safe bet for them financially, and could really generate large-scale interest in a full-blown JLA movie.

  • July 11, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Aren't the Boys at Rocksteady, working on a Superman Game now?

    by Stalkeye

    Well, that's what I heard/read anyways. If they can make Arkham arguably the best Superhero game thus far, Imagine what they can do with Supes?

  • July 11, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    jla

    by falomd

    this is the plan: superman three movies 1st zod 2nd doomsday 3rd darkseid GL second movie sinestro corps (it will do better) introduce Flash, villain professor zoom, just imagine action chase sequence. all other flash villains are ridiculous. wonder woman movie, look at animated movie as a blueprint shazam movie with rock as black adam then a JLA movie with kngdom come influence with some mind control over captain marvel and give me a live action superman vs captain marvel finale Batman choose anybody never show up his face only in uniform. other option full CGI kingdom come movie.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utJVXUaI84c

  • July 11, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST

    other option full CGI kingdom come movie.

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I think the most we'll get of Kingdom Come is one of those DC animated films - which is fine by me. That's not to say a KC movie done right wouldn't be fucking epic. But if DC can barely get JL off the ground and stumbled the second they made something slightly different (Green Lantern as opposed to 10th Batman or Superman movie) then I have zero faith they can do a KC movie live-action.

  • July 11, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    sorry - I just noticed you said CG KC

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    well now...........that could be interesting.

  • July 11, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Warner Bros. and DC have SHIT SENSE OF BUSINESS

    by Big Dumb Ape

    The problem with doing a JUSTICE LEAGUE movie is that Warner Bros. and DC perpetually are SO desperate to get a hit movie -- looking for a quick one time box office hit -- that they keep their heads up their asses in terms of looking long term, and thus they keep making fucked up business deals. In other words -- sure -- you get someone like Nolan to deliver you a hit BATMAN series. But it comes at the price of having a director who DEMANDS that his franchise -- mind you, not Warner Bros or DC's franchise, but "his" -- be self-contained. And they DEMAND assurances that they will have the creative control to "grow" the franchise as a world unto itself, without having to worry about any external entanglements. So, yeah, you get a Nolan/Bale BAT verse...except Nolan/Bale then refuse to play ball and be part of a JUSTICE LEAGUE world. And now you'll have a Snyder/Cavill SUPERMAN film...only problem being that Snyder has repeatedly said in interviews that he's ALREADY told Warners "Fuck you" over the idea of letting his Superman be a part of any Justice Leaque project -- again, notice that it's no longer Warner Bros or DC's Superman, but is magically somehow "his" property. In fact, Snyder has noted in interviews that one of the prime reasons WHY he took on the Superman project is BECAUSE Warners ALREADY gave him the assurance that "his" Superman world would be left alone as an entity unto itself. Which means -- great -- you could have Cavill being a great Superman, but we get no crossover. Which means casting yet another guy to be Superman...at the exact same time you're putting out Superman films. At which point the average filmgoer will look at that and say "What the fuck is this all about? Why isn't it like the Marvel movies, where it's the same guy?" The GREEN LANTERN movie sucked royally -- seriously, I caught it on HBO the other night and was only reminded JUST what a colossal piece of shit that film was. Holy crap, what Warner or DC was thinking...HOW they didn't see the rushes for that coming in and realize what a total turd it was...is still beyond me. However, that said, I'd be willing to bet you could get Reynolds back to recreate the role, which means he would be in. So once Nolan is gone, you really just have to come up with a new BAT film...pick your guy AND pick a director who KNOWS upfront that THIS time around Batman is going to HAVE to cross over into another film...and you have the ball rolling. Then get a good Wonder Woman film going where, again, the star and director KNOW you're emulating the Marvel formula the character will be made to cross over into a JL film. And then finally, assuming the film is a success, just toss enough money at Cavill so he's willing to cross over, since Superman is probably THE lynch pin to getting a JL film to work. So if MAN OF STEEL is a big hit, if I was Warners, I'd tell Cavill he's gonna get a blank check to secure his services and if that meant pissing off Synder and having him walk away from his "vision" of a Superman trilogy, so be it. But it would make FAR better business sense to be willing to trade off Synder if it meant FINALLY getting a JL film off the ground.

  • July 11, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Why should any of the previous DC films be referenced?

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    DC should just start with a clean slate. Select new young actors for Justice League and grow it from there. Superman with Cavill can be it's own thing. Nolan and Bale's Bat trilogy is it's own thing. Green Lantern sucked but could be revamped and still be in the JL. It's too late to build a movie universe like Marvel/Disney (I call them "Misery") has. They already have enough brand awareness through the all the cartoon series they've done. Just make the movie and stop talking about it, DC!

  • July 11, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST

    The Problem with DC movies is...

    by Hernando

    They've all SUCKED... Badlt, with the exception of Nolan's Batman, which Bale does a decent job of doing, But as this ends they really haven't set up the whole, this is one world kind of thing... which marvel did perfectly... PERFECTLY. It was executed over YEARS and by the time it was released we were all foaming at the MOUTH for it, and it was AWESOME. DC has no such luck and any Justice League movie is going to feel forced, It's like DC is the retarded brother of Marvel, He drew a picture and now he wants it on the fridge next to Marvel's Picasso... You do it, but only because you feel bad for them...

  • July 11, 2012, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I've been playing Lego Batman 2 and I've lost days.

    by jellypop

    Minutes have turned into hours, then days. And I still haven't found all those little gold bricks.... Just one more go...just one...

  • July 11, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST

    To: Theotherbadguy

    by GoSensGo

    Can't....stop....laughing....

  • July 11, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST

    isn't there a JLA game already?

    by chien_sale

    I thought I saw this on a DC site, it looked pretty good.

  • Paul Dini to write the script and Brad Bird to direct. There, I saved DC tons of time and money and made them millions.

  • July 11, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Individual films

    by film11

    Instead of throwing money at junk like CLASH/WRATH OF TITANS, they should go all out and do a WONDER WOMAN flick, incorporating bad=ass mythology leading into the real-time 1940s, 50s, or even present day. Joss Whedon reportedly gave them a terrific script already and was supposed to direct, but the idiots at WB fired him! Get THE FLASH going also. As for GREEN LANTERN, it was the victim of a bad script and director (they should have got someone like Paul Verhoeven, or at least someone with a pasision or vison for the character) and another GL movie that avoids the corniness is unthinkable (though probably unlikely). But going straight into JL just screams desperation and copycatting.

  • July 11, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST

    its not it's

    by Teko

    "its immense success". Fixed it for you.

  • July 11, 2012, 5:59 p.m. CST

    As long as Rocksteady is making it, I'm in.

    by Chuck

    But what I'd really love is for them to do a Batman Beyond game next. Yeah, I know it'll never happen, but I can dream, can't I?

  • July 11, 2012, 6:29 p.m. CST

    No Mark Hammil, No Joker!!!

    by kdoc13

    Not for a while anyway, he's too great at that role to just replace. Give it some time, and then re-cast. Also, +1 on just jumping into a Justice League movie. Until then, Make Mine Marvel.

  • They're going to have to find some way of differentiating themselves from the Avengers. Make it a period piece. Infuse it with some of that mid century optimism. Make it colorful, not muted tones like the Marvel folks. Presto! I think that would totally kick ass. Marvels already done a few animated movies in this style so it follows that they would want to continue that trend. I don't think they'll do Avenger business at the box office, but I'm sure it will do extremely well

  • July 11, 2012, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Legends of the Superheroes

    by Nem_Wan

    The only live-action Justice League so far?

  • July 11, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST

    let superman be your ironman

    by Obscura

    Superman can be the series that you hang everything else off. the first one is nearing completion. set your plan out now, and just drop one tiny hint. thats all you need. by the time the next movie is out, whatever it may be, you need to know what the plan is, or we will see right through this money making scheme.

  • July 11, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST

    that's surprising

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    that Snyder doesn't want his Superman involved with a Justice League film. Seems like the only way to go would be to mimic Marvel's formula, which was a monumental success. I was imagining Cavill playing Superman alongside Batman played by the actor from a re-booted Batman series.

  • July 11, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Sounds cool for the game but ....

    by Tom Fremgen

    WB has no f'n idea how to make a superhero movie. These are the same people who turned down Joss (GD Avengers) Wheaton down on Wonder Woman. I firmly believe the JL(A) movie will suck, until I see a trailer that gets me excited. If they want a great JL(A) movie, don't hire Geof Johns (sorry buddy), hire Gerry Conway! He can do it.

  • July 11, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST

    It if off of Smallville...

    by Tom Fremgen

    And maybe Arrow if it's any good (why f can't they just call it Green Arrow- should how much they f'n hate their own heroes). Get Tom Welling as Superman, and the rest of the Smallville JLA. If it's good, people will come and accept it.

  • July 11, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST

    wow

    by dengreg31

    the article does NOT support the statement about the JL awareness.. terrible reporting AICN..

  • July 11, 2012, 10:06 p.m. CST

    A prequel? What a cop out.

    by Christian Sylvain

    Just because they fucked up the ending of Arkham City doesn't mean they have to backtrack into some cheap Brave and the Bold style bullshit.

  • July 11, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Warner Bros. doesn't know what it's doing.

    by TopHat

    I wish movie bloggers and the media would just come out and say that. Nolan's Batman films were a fluke. They are not representative of a movie studio that knows how to make or sell its comic book adaptations. The Nolan brothers are responsible for the success of the past Batman movies, not Warner Bros.. MAN OF STEEL sounds horrible - Superman doesn't even FLY. This studio has completely failed at every turn to bring a viable DC movie adaptation to screen; the only times its worked were because of the film makers not the studio. Maybe if these people on the internet who write for websites and have no connection to any studio or the industry would actually, you know, CRITICISE, the movie studios once in a while, then maybe we'd get better films. But, of course, that might mean missing out on all those enlightening, totally out-of-the-box interviews and set reports. What a shame that would be... P.S. since none of the "film geek" bloggers have the backbone, I'll go ahead and do it... ...Ahem... THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN only made 65 million dollars for a July Fourth weekend. For a new Spider-Man movie to only make that during a July Fourth weekend means it was a FLOP. You can run the 150 million all you want... ...it under-performed. But, the sequel will be better, right? Lets not pick on the poor multi-billion dollar conglomerate.

  • July 11, 2012, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I agree that Welling would be great for Superman.

    by DavidBanner

    He has an established fan base. He does a great job with the character. Write a good script and get a good director and get a good supporting cast and it will be great.

  • July 11, 2012, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Not Welling chants again.

    by jimbojones123

    The final season was drawing 0.7s. His one bit was to look like he was concentrating really hard. That was it.

  • The main reason the Arkham games are so good is because of Dini's writing.

  • I mean, wow. Ask any regular person, any age, to name 3 things about Superman, and the most likely answers would be: wears a red cape, flies, wears trunks on the outside. So, Man of Steel will be missing 2 out of 3? Yikes.

  • July 12, 2012, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Good idea, get Dini for script, Timm to direct.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    And a Ouija board to consult McDuffie. Set it in a rebooted, quasi 1940's/present. Get Jon Hamm as Batman, not Supes.

  • July 12, 2012, 4:08 a.m. CST

    Tom Welling IS Superman

    by Volllllume3

  • July 12, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST

    RE: Rocksteady/Arkham City prequel

    by Stalkeye

    More great news for fans of the AA/AC Series. it has been reported that Rocksteady is now working on a Arkham Asylim prequel that is not only based on the Silver age Batman, but will involve the Justice league as well. (YES!) I'm sure more info will be revealed at the CC today. can't wait.

  • July 12, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST

    More comics stuff should be period

    by Autodidact

    Superman in particular works better in art deco surroundings.

  • July 12, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Rocksteady needs to ditch the late 80's Dave McKean

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

    aesthetic. It only serves to appeal to douchebags. No one would ever think that an asylum that looks like that would be conducive to rehabilitating the criminally insane. Arkham from BTAS is a more rational, realistic look.

  • July 12, 2012, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Warner Bros. Don't Do What Marvel Did

    by micturatingbenjamin

    Which was create a blueprint for how you make a billion-dollar movie. Basically take the characters and build them up in their own features to raise awareness, key here is to make sure the movies are at least watchable and cool enough to make kids like them, so people know what the hell a Green Lantern or Flash is. Or, you could take the poster above's advice? Which is based on a hunch that something different would be better. But Warner hates the comics portion of their company it seems, and hates the idea of these properties making money for them or something. Otherwise, why would Green Lantern be given such a half-ass treatment?

  • don't get me wrong, ppl will be excited by justice league no matter who directs it, but notice how average filmgoers didn't need to be told of whedon's involvement in avengers cuz they couldn't give a crap about him. ppl however do recognize tarantino's, and i see fans nutting all over themselves over his dialogue like they do over whedon's, so he would be a great fit imo. i have read interviews where he said he would rather do his own superhero than an established one, b/c he didn't wanna hear crap from fans if he changed something about a character, but if the $ and timing is right i would love to see a trailer saying "the ____th film by quentin tarantino" in a justice league ad.

  • Tho I suppose they could have gone with Arkham Continent and then followed that with Arkham Planet, Arkham solar system, etc etc.

  • July 13, 2012, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Steel, Supergirl, Jonah Hex, The Green Lantern, Catwoman...

    by UndisputedVipers

    ...DC really has to get Justice League right.

  • Get a big name actor for Batman and let the performances, story and action drive the movie rather than stars.

  • July 13, 2012, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Bridget Regan for WW.

    by Bedknobs and Boomsticks

  • everytime someone comes up with their personal bright idea for who should play WW. If they don't cast Regan, it will be an Epic Fail and a huge missed opportunity, imo.

  • http://uk.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/smallville_will_chloe_survive/120288 Tom. Welling. NEVER. Wanted. To. Play. Superman. He played a ten year bait and switch and then ran of with a BIG bag of money. He will NEVER go near Superman again without a gun to his head. Let it go.

  • July 14, 2012, 7:49 a.m. CST

    *off

    by UltimaRex

    Damn my hatred of Welling.