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So, According To Karl Urban, Benedict Cumberbatch In STAR TREK 2 Is Playing...
Nordling here.
Yep, Gary Mitchell, of "Where No Man Has Gone Before," if Karl Urban's interview with SFX is to be believed. Or, to quote him, "He’s awesome, he’s a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary." Sorry, Karl, you got to be more careful talking to press if you're in a J. J. Abrams movie.
That said, I think Mitchell's a perfect character for Cumberbatch to play, although I'm curious as to whether or not the movie will follow the same storyline as the episode. In "Where No Man Has Gone Before," Mitchell, an old friend of Kirk's, suddenly gets vast telepathic powers and begins to consider himself a god. Kirk is forced to dispatch his good friend to prevent Mitchell from taking over the Enterprise and presumably the galaxy.
Is this a smoke screen? I don't know. And really, does it matter? Why hide who Cumberbatch is playing unless it's an established character? If he was someone new, there wouldn't be all this runaround. So, even if he isn't playing Mitchell, he's playing someone we recognize. At one point I even supposed it was the Squire of Gothos, but if the photos we've seen are accurate, I don't remember the Squire needing to be in any fight scenes.
So - Cumberbatch isn't Khan, and of course all of this has to be taken with several grains of salt considering the misinformation that we've gotten so far. Honestly, I think Abrams would be better off not trying to keep things so close to the chest because when news does break it starts to be less a news moment and more of a "Gotcha Abrams!" moment. Still, it's good casting, and if true I can't wait to see those glittery eyes on Cumberbatch. As my friend Megan is so fond of saying (and about a million posters on Pinterest attest), he's quite dreamy.
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You remind me that I know who Finnegan is. Why? Why on earth do I remember this?
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Pissed all over this hours ago
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July 9, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST
Who's playing the Sally Kellerman role? I thought her pre-Hot Lips role on Trek was pretty spiffy.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
Yeah, I said spiffy.
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July 9, 2012, 12:29 p.m. CST
I don't believe a fucking word I hear from any actor EVER!!!
by notcher
Wasn't it "officially" announced that he was Kahn like a month or so ago. Then it was like "No, he's not Kahn." I don't buy this at all.
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If I'm not mistaken, the comic books which immediately followed the first movie already did the "Nu-Trek" Gary Mitchell spin - and got the okay from Camp Abrams as to what they could and couldn't use. Either they've forgotten about it, or Urban is fooling around.
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http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Ongoing,_Issue_2
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July 9, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST
tommygavineg, maybe they were impressed by the comic's take on Mitchell, and thought he'd make a good villain for the sequel
by FreeBeer
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one racist MIB3 review too many.
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For the love of Ricardo Montalbán's gigantic pecs, guys... get it right.
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Covered this so I imagined he wouldnt be the villain. But I could see it happening. I'm sure if he is in the sequel the story will be tweeked a little. Ones a comic the other a major motion picture.
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Instead of new ones? I don't get it.
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While I would much prefer using an entirely new villain, using someone like Gary Mitchell wouldn't bother me. His backstory wasn't so complex as Khan's was, so a single film could be used to update him. If he is indeed who Cumberbatch is playing, I'm all for it.
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Orci apparently oversees storylines in the comic to make sure they don't screw with anything they're going to do in the movies. I think this is Urban just screwing with people.
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I dont think it's true. A while ago someone from the Trek 2 crew said that the plot to the movie is hidden in one small panel of the first star trek comic that was released a year ago. So i bought it and still to this day im looking for the plot but Gary Mitchell was the entire plot of the comic! I hope for this to happen, but theres a chance it wont.
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July 9, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
After years of keeping silent on Star Trek plot details, do you really think he just suddenly forgot and slipped up like this? No chance.
by lox4444
Added to which, why would the early focus have been on Latino actors during casting? And as everyone else has said, it's already been done in the comics.
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but surely it would be more fun to introduce a new villain, someone unpredictable, someone who couldn't be second guessed someone who could smash the enterprise from top to toe and not care one bit? I like the unexpected angle of that type of approach. Someone who on the surface seems thoroughly unhinged with Kirk and Co and leads them to fight back with gusto. There are normally some vague connections to the bad guy via some slight back history story to one of the enterprise gang that sort of spoils the element of surprise. I'd like total surprise.
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Alice Eve is playing Elizabeth Dehner? Works for me
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OK, an ACTOR, sitting in a PREPARED interview (not an unguarded moment) lets something "slip". Not buying it.
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July 9, 2012, 1:20 p.m. CST
Can't any of these hack writers come up with something new instead of cannibalizing old episodes?
by Doctor_Nefario
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=92326
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=92326
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Sorry, I didn't read your post until I wrote mine. I agree with you that a new villain would work better. There are an awful lot of characters to choose from in the Trek universe so recalling one for the new Trek film seems like a logical choice. However, it could be said that it also shows a weakness for not showing any spark of originality with the introduction of someone different. More often any new villain introduced for one film does tend to be a one trick pony and doesn't quite live up to expectations leading to a re-think for any further sequels. It can't be easy choosing just which is the correct way to go.
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July 9, 2012, 1:24 p.m. CST
I'd far rather a 'reboot' of Where No Man Has Gone Before on the big screen rather than a rehash of the excellent Khan movie!
by Cervantes
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July 9, 2012, 1:27 p.m. CST
Sadly, I still think it's gonna be a Khan rehash despite what Urban claims...
by Cervantes
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July 9, 2012, 1:29 p.m. CST
I think Mitchell's a perfect character for Cumberbatch to play
by buggerbugger
Yeah, I can't wait for the weird-looking and -acting bloke to start looking and acting all weird before **and** after Weird Shit happens to him, so you can't tell when he's **supposed** to be looking and acting weird. Nu Trek: This isn't your dad's Star Trek. (smashes your dad's Star Trek toys together into "interesting" new shapes instead of making new toys to play with)
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He'll be playing a 23rd century descendant of his character from 'Kidulthood'. He'll have a bit of a 'gangsta' attitude and will eventually be shivved in the kidney by Angry Spock.
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Khan never made sense...then again. nothing on screen in the JJ trek made sense.... how large is that ship? which scene?. How do you kill a Crazed telekentic Ego driven Maniac.... even obi wan knows you take him to a volcano planet and drop him into lava.... but i guess they'll have to change the planets name, since Delta Vega is now Hoth. See what happens when you go back in time via a black hole... Anyhow.. will Hot lips do a Shower scene? or will that be a Spock thing?
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July 9, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST
Boborci does the IDW Trek comics, they did Gary Mitchell as the first arc. Urban was screwing around.
by Al
It's either Khan (for which I would trust Trekmovie sources) or a new character. No Gary Mitchell. Check out vol. 1 of Star Trek ongoing from IDW comics for that. Boborci says it's supposed to lead up to the movie and not contradict it (he's more into sharing continuity with spin-off stuff than previous Trek administrations.) So unless they're planning to raise Gary Mitchell from the dead (actually not out of the realm of possibility for the character) Urban just said some gibberish to throw people off.
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Before Simon Pegg has to yell at us again. Also, I'd like to see new villains instead of rehashed old ones. I just don't see the appeal of doing a story that's already there.
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...numerous AICNers demonstrate their staggering inability to spell a four letter name correctly, i.e. 'Khan'. Seriously, people, how fucking difficult can it be?
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so, yeah, nope. move along.
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Period. Gary Mitchell may be in this story, but Khan is the main villain.
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July 9, 2012, 2:12 p.m. CST
The Underverse Vampires will be best space villians Urban meets
by even9
If he lives through the 3rd Riddick film.
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I agree with everything you said! I would much prefer a new villain, one no one has seen before. I think using a villain fans are familiar with would mostly be a fan service. It'd basically be the writers screaming, "See? We're fans too!" I don't see how any interesting story arc could be created from recycling old villains, but Gary Mitchell is interesting enough that if he was redone, I think it'd work.
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Worst villain name ever!!!
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July 9, 2012, 2:28 p.m. CST
Why does everyone assume Mitchell will be a villain in this reality?
by Smartacus
He was a good friend of Kirk's before he got all those fancy powers. Without them he'd probably just be another character in the story. Who knows?
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While I knew instantly what you meant, I can't help but thank you for making me picture Raul Julia toking up some medicinal herb in his trailer on the set of Street Fighter. In full costume no less. Considering his health issues at the time, it totally makes sense too.
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The villain's name is Gary? That's just... Gary?
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...this will do nicely! Maybe they will introduce Mitchell as a crew member at the beginning of the film. Perhaps the Enterprise is being sent on a mission that requires an officer with expertise in a particular field and Kirk remembers his friend Gary Mitchell and arranges for him to come aboard. Then in the second act you can have the incident that turns Mitchell into the crazy man-god we know he becomes. Though I highly doubt they will keep the "universal barrier" element. It will probably be something else that causes him to change. Much prefer this than the idea of doing Khan again.
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But who can refuse the Cumberbatch? But Mitchell always looked like he could have been one of Kirk's buddys, and I'd get that from Stan and Pine, but not so much from Cumberbatch and Pine--at least not right off the bat. Eager to see how they do this. I'm so glad he's not Khan!
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/171581-exclusive-the-wolverine-casting-news
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July 9, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST
NO NO NO....It's Sybok....It's SYBOCK..........Remember that leaked picture? Whoever Spock is fighting must be on his strength level....It's SYBOCK!
by SmokieGeezer
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July 9, 2012, 3 p.m. CST
You'll know that I knew when he says.....I couldn't help but notice your pain...SHARE IT WITH ME!
by SmokieGeezer
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July 9, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST
Hey Bob please come on nix this.....This is not the mirror universe Smokie....This is the real one who has faith in you guys to do well...
by SmokieGeezer
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July 9, 2012, 3:04 p.m. CST
So after the first Abrams Trek movie ripped off STAR TREK: OF MEN AND GODS --
by berserkrl
it looks like the second Abrams Trek movie is all to set to rip off ... STAR TREK: OF MEN AND GODS.
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July 9, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST
SYBOCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
by SmokieGeezer
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July 9, 2012, 3:07 p.m. CST
Lol! Gary Mitchell was not a villain. He was a victim of circumstances.
by KnowItAllFromCali
It would be a good choice, but I don't believe a word of it.
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Cumberbatch is playing Khan. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56587
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July 9, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
My money says that in a couple of weeks Paramount will announce massive re-shoots to replace everyone in the cast with Channing Tatum
by zillabeast
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Do you really think his DREDD junket interviews would have gotten a fraction of this much ink today if he didn't make the so-called slip? Cumberbatch may or may not be Mitchell, but DREDD just got a boatload of free publicity...
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July 9, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST
wookie_blowjob.....I couldnt help but notice your pain.....Share it with me
by SmokieGeezer
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July 9, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST
Dont diss Sybock......he was manovolent villain......De Kelley's scene with his DAD is the standout of V too.....AMAZING scene
by SmokieGeezer
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July 9, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
The teaser trailer showed Cumberbatch's character in what looks like a cryogenic sl eep chamber. I'm not buying the supposed "Mitchell" slip...I still think Cumberbatch is Khan.
by Mark Williams
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July 9, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
As Karl Thommason told Joey 6 in SUBSTITUTE II:SCHOOLS OUT......"Dont Fuck UP".....No rebooting THE SUBSTITUTE Mr.Orci...I lay claim right now
by SmokieGeezer
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be good to me?
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...get a life..
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Is have you seen any of the new villains star trek has came up with for movies. The Suna, a lame clone of Picard. Soren. Please. I would prefer the squire of gothos but gary mitchelle works as well.
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That is a worship-word, you will not speak it.
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July 9, 2012, 3:39 p.m. CST
@aremisslake, what? Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Gary doesn't grab you?
by Dogmatic
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Khan vs. the enhanced, silver-eyed Gary Mitchell... their titanic contest imperils the universe, so it's Kirk & Co. to the rescue!
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Gary Mitchell won't appear in Star Trek 2. See article here: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56587
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They did it up nice in Early Classic Trek. Looks like something Mitt Romney and his Five Draft-age Sons would wear in the Smoking Room after a tough day on the Back Nine. JJ Trek's uniforms? Meh...I hate the boots. I just hate them. If they are bringing back Mitchell, they better have a good reason why and how. Mitchell was supposed to have been killed off in one of the comics. Trek Deux: The Wrath Of Gary? Nope!
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I have received info from a fairly reliable source ( i.e. from someone employed at Paramount ) indicating that the main villian in Star Trek 2 is, in fact, Khan.
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If I ever become a porn star, my stage name will be Benedict Cumberbatch.
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but over what Gary is mutating in to.
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July 9, 2012, 4:53 p.m. CST
Glad its not Khan; was hoping for Gary Seven, Gary Mitchell will do
by Crimson Dynamo
thawhiteshadow - Benedict Bangersnatch
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in the AbramsVerse. It goes down similarly, except Spock and not Dehner that weakens Mitchell, who then asks Kirk to kill him. This is probably too small a story, although not too small a character for a film. I could see a large threat to the federation, which Kirk is sent to investigate, being defeated by the mutated Mitchell, who then goes too far and has to be taken down by Kirk. Kind of plays out like the Dark Knight thou with the Harvey Dent storyline.
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July 9, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST
If it's true, if it's true, then I feel a bit smug, cos I called it. Well me and everyone else...
by marshallwtoneil
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56065 My work here is done. Now Hollywood stop with these remakes, reboots, re-imaginings etc and start coming up with original ideas.
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Hey-ho.
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The plot of the first film was designed to re-introduce the characters in a way that allowed for new stories (but still using identifiable characters--like Pike for instance). Would it be logical to re-introduce a character that preceeded the new timeline (like Khan)? But Sybok can coexist in this new universe, and--the important point--it makes the plot revolve around FAMILY. That corny theme lies at the heart of Abrams' work, and allows for a cameo by Nimoy. Hey, boborci--come online (we know you're out there) and say it aint so.
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Mitchell and Khan are both in Star Trek 2? I dunno...I only ever watch the films. The T.V. series ( all variations) bored me to exhaustion. I honestly could not find a way in to enjoy them.
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July 9, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST
The IDW tie in comics saw Mitchell die, pretty horrifically too when a boulder got tossed on his body.
by elgato73
So are we to take this that he survived? Or do the new tie in comic books not matter even though Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman said they did?
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July 9, 2012, 5:42 p.m. CST
Why would a couple writers MOST known for appropriating already-established IP be likely to go original?
by whyamihere
Especially after how poorly the last movie was put together. It'll be Khan.
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July 9, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST
Glad to see SYBOK is being taken seriously....A SUBSTITUTE V TALKBACK....If Smokie has called it
by SmokieGeezer
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July 9, 2012, 5:44 p.m. CST
What does GOD need with a Starship? All you haters on V...must admit, that is aint it fucking cool dialogue
by SmokieGeezer
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July 9, 2012, 5:46 p.m. CST
If it is Sybok, I hope he can borrow Howard Jones sidekick for Nutrek2 - Wrath of Sybok
by SmokieGeezer
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But Mitchell gets his powers by accident. If that exact accident isn't duplicated (as it shouldn't be in this timeline) then he's just another Star Fleet dude.
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July 9, 2012, 6:03 p.m. CST
Seen the entire original series...dont remember this character
by wcolbert
been a while, at any rate. Must not have had a great impact. At any rate I'm sure it's misinformation. But who knows. Who cares. The real question is...where's my Shatner cameo? Brand new universe - no reason an older version of Kirk cant meet up with the younger version a la Spock. No, Pine doesnt look like Shatner - but then Quinto does not at all look like Nimoy, hard as they tried...and it still worked (though I admit the whole movie I was thinking "yeah, but I wish the original cast could be younger again so they could keep m aking movies instead of having new guys trying to fill their shoes"... Personally I'm of the opinion that the original cast did what they did, leave it be - pursue different timelines, crews, etc, just dont play the guys we've known and loved for 45 years.
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Oy vey!
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He will be played be Danny Dyer and he will be renamed `Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaant`.
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Only just realised you had already flagged Sybok. Agree with you. No indication that Ben Cross is back as Sarek, though. But would he be needed? Maybe not. I do think that "family" rears its sacchrine head in just about every tentpole movie these days! And would be really surprised if they did not have a big, gloopy dollop of "family" in this movie (just as the theme of Kirk and Spock working out their daddy issues was central to the previous movie). So would not be at all surprised if it was Sybok. Could Benedicio del Toro (who was apparently primed for the villian before Cumberbatch stepped in) have played Sybok? Sure, why not?
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He was a loner kid on the range, and then a captain immediately.
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STAR TREK: OF GODS AND MEN. Not OF MEN AND GODS.
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Who's to say it WASN'T intended to be "Khan" when they first came up with the treatment or even all the way to the first couple of drafts? del Toro passes on the role, Antonio Bandaras was busy, the other Spanish/Mexican actors just aren't a big enough box office draw, the guys in market research get online and see that the word on the street is, those "Star Trek" nerds they courted with the last one are all giving a WRATH OF KHAN reboot idea the big, fat, fudge-smeared finger, so the writers do a quickie find-and-replace on the script and "Khan Noonian Singh" becomes "Gary Mitchell", while the "Genesis Device" becomes "crazy psychic disco eyeball shit". </p><p> More to the point, though, WHO FUCKING CARES?!? Sure, we dodge a hardcore reboot bullet if it's not "Khan", but does anyone truly win here? I mean, aside from everybody involved in STAR TREK 2 -- those fuckers are getting PAID and LAID.
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July 9, 2012, 9:13 p.m. CST
Clearly an old friend from Camp. Kirk was confused back then
by Domi'sInnerChild
It explains him banging everything in sight to prove he's not gay.
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July 9, 2012, 10:59 p.m. CST
The pretty lady at Urban Outfitters doesn't know a Karl or a Gary.
by illegal alien vs sexual predator
And why is she looking at me like that?
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USA, motherfuckers. Show Kirk the kill screen.
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July 9, 2012, 11:37 p.m. CST
Galactic Barrier story might be more effective in the reboot if they used McCoy as the host instead of Mitchell
by annie_michael_hall
Bones and Kirk at least have a history in this alternate timeline. Besides, in this timeline Kirk did not teach at the academy, and the whole Gary Mitchell story is about Kirk coming to terms realizing how awful this "old friend" has become and how he has to let him go.
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July 9, 2012, 11:37 p.m. CST
Having said that, this is probably just a BS story and Mitchell is not in the sequel.
by annie_michael_hall
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I'm tired of their games of secrecy. Playing with the fans like this might be fun for them, but it's a blatant sign of disrespect! I've been a supporter of theirs thus far, and have defended the first movie, but I've grown really really tired of this rumors and secrecy bullshit, propagated by the cast and crew themselves! FUCK YOU ASSHOLES! FUCK YOU TO DEATH!! FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!!
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Sounded a little gay in the first movie.
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July 10, 2012, 12:43 a.m. CST
Or maybe it's Captain Ron Tracy, doing that Yangs and Goms deal.
by kabong
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July 10, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST
Always thought Gary Mitchell should have been "god" in ST V.
by Yamato
And have the planet "Eden" "inside" the great barrier on the edge of the Galaxy. (They could say "how can there be a planet inside the barrier?) Have it that it was Mitchell, after the "fatal" crushing, fleeing to the world for blah blah blah, and that he could not leave the world and therefore called out across the galaxy and made mental contact with Sybok. The movie should have also referenced the "space hippies", saying that Sybok was hardly the first to seek "Eden", and that great, but broken minds have often sought out the mythical world in search of peace. Bam! Way better Star Trek V. I should have been in Hollywood to fix the script.
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If Abrams is going the lazy route and basically making big-screen remakes of 60's episodes, then this isn't the ship I signed on to serve. Sure, it'll be fun and look pretty but I want NEW VOYAGES, not retreads of old plots and characters. expecting far more from the second bad Robot Trek than rehashing very, very old ground like this. leave that to the excellent IDW comics where it belongs. If this is what we have to look forward top, as cool as it will look and obviously with tweaks to make it slightly left of centre, then I'd rather go back to TNG era and give that the finish it deserved before heading off 50-100 years into the future of the Federation.
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Raaaaaaaaige!
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Due to negative online feedback, the Abrams Spin Machine has decided to rename Gary to Raige. Raige Mitchell. Totally badass. Raaaaaaaaige! STOOPID FUCKIN' TALKBACK DELETIN'! RAAAAAAAIGE!
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I don't want my brother comin out of that toilet with just his dick in his hand.
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July 10, 2012, 7:59 a.m. CST
This movie is going to be called "Where No One Has Gone Before"... I'm calling it NOW!!!
by ChickenStu
Think about it. They've said the film may not include the words "Star Trek" at all in the titles - but it'll still need to sound "trekky". The ep with Gary Mitchell was called "Where No Man Has Gone Before" so this title totally fits. The third film willl probably be called "Starfleet" or something.
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July 10, 2012, 8:23 a.m. CST
no fight scenes in the Squire of Gothos? Half of the entire episode was a swordfight!
by Arcadian Del Sol
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since Orci said just last week that Gary Mitchell specifically wasn't in the movie.
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July 10, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST
My gf thinks that Cumberbatch looks like a "weird doll"
by SergeantStedenko
Her words not mine.
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TOS cast dealing with Q. That I'd like to see.
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July 10, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST
Kirk would not deal with Q as elegantly as Picard did
by SergeantStedenko
methinks.
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July 10, 2012, 11:18 a.m. CST
Who is this "Kahn" character I keep reading about? I've been a Star Trek fan my whole life, and the only one I know is a character named "Khan" played by Ricardo Montalban.
by WillTheThrill
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to have him as an ally of Kirks'. Even attempting to ape Montalbahn would be all kinds of foolishness.... I dig the new trek, but the Enterprise bridge bugs me. I looks like an IKEA store. Would have preferred a slightly different take on the original series bridge... the same look, but bigger and wider... have it explained that George Kirk was one of the origal designers of the ship and without his later input, it looked, altered...
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WHy has it been 10 years since we've last seen them? (besides Nemesis stinking) No sense in that....
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July 10, 2012, 11:47 a.m. CST
If they wanted a look alike to play Gary Mitchell, Jeremy Renner would have been the spitting image
by SergeantStedenko
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July 10, 2012, 4 p.m. CST
So are they planning 60-odd sequels to rehash every old TV episode?
by Triple_J_72
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And why is that a bad thing? The movies are 2+ hours. An epi of old Trek was less than an hour, even with less commercials back then. They can totally change the plot due to this being in an alt universe. They can also expand the story arc and characterization. They can save the original stuff for a new TV series. Oh, and on the subject of the alt universe. If Spock tries to save Vulcan and or reset the time-line using the sling shot around the sun bit, he will end up in that universes future or past, not the Prime one. Even if He had red matter left, who's to say the black hole is not just gonna send him to another different uni. Imagine his suprise ending up in the Mirror Universe.
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is giving me naughty thoughts.
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July 10, 2012, 7:47 p.m. CST
As I said before, Cumberbatch plays an evil space otter
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
in this one.
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If you recall, ST 1 was a mindfuck of people running, explosions, nonsense plot and lens flares. Where No Man Has Gone Before was a slow-paced, well-written sci fi masterpiece.
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July 10, 2012, 9:26 p.m. CST
Wierd, because Urban could play Mitchell as he appears in the pic above
by Jaka
Looks very much like him.
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It's not as good as traditional Trek, but what is? As long as they aren't trying to re-do Khan, as previously rumoured, then I'm cool with this. In fact, as long as they stay away from Khan, I'll actually defend this movie as I do the first JJTrek. It's not the greatest Trek film, but it's certainly leaps and bounds better than STIII, STV, or Nemeshit. And, boborci, I'm sure you don't care, but I'll take back every single bad thing I've said about this project if there's no Khan. My frustration and disappointment stemmed primarily on that rumour, so if it's not true, very cool. I'll support ST2012 if that's the case!
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