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|Issue #9||Release Date: 6/27/12||Vol.#11|
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Advance Review: BEFORE WATCHMEN: OZYMANDIAS #1
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #688
JUSTICE LEAGUE #10
Advance Review: IRRESISTABLE #1
ALL STAR WESTERN #10
Advance Review: HE-MAN & THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE #1
LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN: CENTURY 2009 #1
Advance Review: BATMAN: EARTH ONE Vol.1
Advance Review: In stores today!
BEFORE WATCHMEN: OZYMANDIAS #1Writer: Len Wein
Artist: Jae Lee
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Optimous Douche
So here we are, halfway through the event that threatened to tear comicdom asunder and give Alan Moore’s beard a hate-fueled sentience that would bring the Mayans’ predictions for this year to fruition.
To date, there have been no apocalyptic beard attacks. As for comicdom, BEFORE WATCHMEN seems to have left us in two camps: Camp one consists of those who are boycotting the series under the false delusions they understand copyright law or a moral high ground of story purity. Camp two is where I’m getting my Webelos badge; this is the camp that simply wants to read a good story. And all of the stories have been good so far, with some being better than others. Here’s where my list stands right now:
One was an easy choice. Amanda Connor is simply writing and drawing the hell out of SILK SPECTRE, providing deep character exploration about a very troubled young woman set amidst America’s Summer of Love.
COMEDIAN & NIGHT OWL are in a neck and neck race right now in my opinion. Issue 2 will serve as the electric kool-aid test on who sneaks ahead. For now, COMEDIAN takes the lead because I felt he book had better moments. I loved the connection COMEDIAN had to the Kennedy clan, plus the moment where he offed Marilyn Monroe was sweetly sadistic. I liked NIGHT OWL, but Dan’s discovery of Hollis Mason was simply way too Tim Drake in my opinion. Also, I only found myself getting truly interested in NITE OWL once Rorschach showed up. It will be interesting to see how Capt. Ink Blot’s book works in NITE OWL, assuming it will be tit-for-tat. I didn’t hate MINUTEMEN-- it’s finely executed--I simply don’t care about knowing every detail down to underwear size of the original Crimebusters.
So why does OZYMANDIAS get the coveted second position? For starters, we all know Ozymandias’ fate as being the big bad guy of the original WATCHMEN book. This gives Wein a lot of room for character progression and thus far the pacing is spot on. While issue one only gets us as far as Ozymandias donning his Abba head gear, the journey he took from infancy to this point was perfectly epic in scope and purpose. This series has staying power because OZYMANDIAS still has so much further to go from purveyor of justice to its ultimate perversion.
Unlike most of the BEFORE WATCHMEN tales, the story of Adrian Veidt starts before his birth, when his parents flee the mother land so their child can be born on American soil. Unlike today, they don’t take this journey simply to sidestep immigration laws--they want their child to be born in America so he can one day run it. They didn’t know Adrian was going to be a genius, but how many of our Presidents actually were? This is a wonderful nod to many of the hopes and aspirations immigrants had as they fled Europe before it became embroiled in WWII.
Flash forward a few years and Adrian begins to show his genius-level intellect. Wein expertly gets into the minds and unfortunate cruelty of young children during these formative years. Anyone different is ostracized, and when you are the smartest person on earth that ostracizing increases in direct proportion to the level of “weird.” Here is where we begin to see Adrian’s ability to be twelve steps ahead of everyone else in the world and the brutal callousness this breeds towards one’s fellow man. When teased by a schoolyard bully, Adrian doesn’t go for the immediate gratification of merely hurting the boy. Instead Adrian takes his licks, hones his body with martial arts, and ultimately delivers a response that essentially cripples the bully for life. While the child inside of me cheered for the retribution I never exacted on my own bullies, the adult in me cringed as Adrian snapped the bully’s leg in half, knowing the crime did not deserve the punishment.
Wein uses the middle parts of the issue to establish Adrian’s connection to Alexander of Macedonia. This is more than a man crush; Adrian wants to one day be king and uses Alexander the Great’s rise to power as his template. During this sojourn of Alexander’s trail of conquest, Adrian continues to hone his mind and body to perfection.
Once his journey is complete he ends up back in the US ready to start amassing a financial fortune so he can change the world…until he proves that even the smartest man in the world is still just a man. Adrian meets a woman in a coffee shop who changes his world. While it doesn’t stall Adrian’s rise to greatness, love certainly serves as a distraction.
And it’s because of that love or loss thereof we see how Adrian turns from ambitious to world controlling megalomaniac. Sure, he’s not ready to save the world yet through population control, but we see that retribution for crimes against his love drives a wedge between him and whatever humanity Adrian once had.
Jae Lee not only owns the goods on characters and locales, but also breaks panel boundaries with gleeful abandon. I love this simply because Adrian thinks beyond boundaries and we get to come along for the ride with this layout.
I’m not ready to call BEFORE WATCHMEN a resounding success; we need to get closer to the end on every title before any anointing takes place. I will say emphatically, though, BEFORE WATCHMEN is not a failure. Anyone avoiding it right now is cutting their nose off to spite their face. Alan Moore does not care about your boycott and all of these issues will come out regardless of fanboy harumphs. So you can ignore some great titles for the reward of a snuggle inside a beard that will never come, or you can enjoy today’s top talent unfettered from continuity with 20th century history at their disposal. You decide!
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AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #688
Writer: Dan Slott
Art: Giuesppe Camuncoli
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: Henry Higgins is My Homeboy
Jesus, Little Too Much...
At this past C2E2, I had an opportunity to briefly speak to Dan Slott, which was wonderful. I thanked him for what, to my mind, is one of the strongest runs on AMAZING SPIDER-MAN in recent memory, and got to shake the hand one of the strongest superheroe writers of the modern day. He responded by thanking me and then hinting at some of the upcoming stories of the year. Among these little tidbits was that an upcoming story was going to be one of the darkest things he’s ever written, and one of the darkest Lizard stories ever. Following “Shed”, those are bold words. And goddamnit if he didn’t keep his word. “No Turning Back” is one of the darkest Spider-Man stories I’ve ever read, and it does more with 22 pages than some entire miniseries can manage it.
Writing: (4/5) Have to commend Slott: even when he makes the story beats as dark as humanly possible, the characters remain true to themselves. The Lizard is as vicious as ever, without ever feeling like an unneeded “grim and gritty” go at it. This just feels like a new direction to take an established character, one that stays true to the character. Morbius likewise works well, consistent with a human monster, willing to cross the lines between the two sides. He may have altruistic intentions, but that doesn’t make his actions anymore humane. Peter most of all rings true, desperately trying to cling to his edicts and principles despite the substantial hit they took during “Ends Of The Earth”. His attempts falter and fail, and Peter has to confront the fact that his strong promise to save everyone just isn’t feasible. Even for Spider-Man, he’s still just a man. Slott writes a wonderful Spider-Man, clearly just trying to be the old fashioned hero in a modern dark story.
The story itself itself, however, feels incredibly rushed. Too much ground in too little time, as the story jumps around too many times. It’s very compressed, and feels like it’s too many story beats. It jumps from the sewers to the docks to the party to the cemetery to the lab, sometimes switching timeframes. It can be muddled at times, and expanding the story could have assisted that.
It’s still a wonderfully written and tight script, it’s just too much.
Art: (3/5) Camuncoli is very hit or miss for me, and this issue should be a good example why. Sometimes his characters look remarkably good, moving realistically and with purpose. The fight scene between the Lizard and Spidey especially looks fantastic. At others, the art can look muddled and directionless, especially during the party scene at MJ’s. It’s an odd mixed bag, and while I ultimately enjoy Camuncoli’s art, the bad moments detract from the overall experience.
He’s assisted well, though, with D’Armata providing bright and wonderful colour, and Klaus Janson doing a superb job with inking. The book looks good, but too many small things stop me from enjoying it completely.
Best Moment: The fact that Morbius developed a hypodermic harpoon gun. That’s just awesome.
Worst Moment: The art for the party scene. I wish Camuncoli would be consistent with his art, because when it’s on, it’s on. It just doesn’t maintain.
Overall: (4/5) Slott wasn’t exaggerating when he said this was one of the darkest Spider-Man stories ever. I don’t want to spoil any of the twists, but it’s well worth reading.
JUSTICE LEAGUE #10Writer: Geoff Johns
Artists: Jim Lee
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Masked Man
So the debate about this book has been, is it like a Michael Bay movie, meaning leave your brain at the door and enjoy the explosions? Well, I have another way of thinking about it: lost in execution.
When you look at the outline of the current story, “The Villain’s Journey”, it seems like a great idea. Unfortunately, that great outline isn’t translating into a great comic. It just feels like nothing more than the outline: A character gets a grudge against the League, makes some kind of Faustian deal to get superpowers, commits typical acts of evil and when he finally attacks the League, he beats the crap out of them.
So why isn’t the book translating well? I blame the villain, David Graves (I assume a cooler name is coming soon). We had plenty of time to get to know him (two full issues and two teasers), but we still don’t feel him. All we get is his outline: he’s a former occult writer who believes the Justice League killed his family and caused him to become deathly ill, so with his knowledge of the occult he gains superpowers and attacks the league. But we need more than an outline to be interested in a villain. I say, we need his thought process. Relatively speaking, these events could have happened to anyone, so something has to be unique about David Graves in order for him to become the awesome supervillain Johns wants him to be. I mean, do you remember Dr. Impossible? Didn’t think so. Now, you can argue we are in the middle of the story explaining all this. But it’s also like being in the middle of a Michael Bay movie--do you really think it’s going to get better?Also, the Justice League has problems with the logistics of the League itself (but I suppose that’s true for all the New 52 books). A fair portion of the issue is a JL meeting in which the characters have very little trust or knowledge of each other. Now, if this is a story during the team’s first year together, I’d be fine with that. But they have known each other for five years! They are so tight knit that they refuse to have anyone else join the team (see issue #8). Also, since the villain is preying upon the personal losses of the heroes, it would be nice if we readers knew what those were. But being a brand new universe, I have no idea what is current with Wonder Woman’s mom, Superman’s dad, etc. At this point, it has the same meaning if they called out “Kelly Clarkson!” You just can’t say a character has mommy issues and expect it to have the same impact as writing a character with mommy issues.
Two side notes: is anyone else tired of Aquaman being treated like a joke by the people of this Earth? Again, it seems like something he’d endure during year one, not year five--heck, after two Superbowl rings, no one makes fun of Eli Manning anymore. And is it just me, or has Cyborg become too powerful? The guy can hack, control and know everything on any system. Sure he’s a walking Motherbox, so I get the how. But is it necessary for him to be that powerful, and how often are writers now going to forget those abilities in order to prevent their stories from falling apart?
Ok, enough picking on poor Johns, let’s pick on Jim Lee now. As usual he gets too sketchy sometimes, with all those unnecessary hatch lines. But for the most part he draws a good looking book--until he reveals the villain, Graves, to the League. First off, when Cyborg mentions the silent alarm, what was it? Was it the room getting cold, the “veet” noise, or the lights going off? At least I think they did--am I alone in thinking Jim drew the room with the lights off? Then on the big splash page revealing Graves, why is his back to us? Why is he the smallest thing on the page? And why is Wonder Woman looking at her shoes?!? I can hear the Simpson comicbook guy now: “Worst reveal ever.” Lastly, what happened to Batman? He was never hit, but he’s still lying on the floor like everyone else. Maybe a plot point…so, you still think the movie is going to get better?
Ok, let’s end on a high note: Shazam! Now if you compare this to the original, it’s all messed up! And you can make a really good argument that it’s just change for change’s sake. But if you can let go of that, things are shaping up nicely here. Gary Frank is doing a great job on the art. His stuff has really improved since he left Marvel. I’m really looking forward to Billy mixing it up with Mr. Bryer. And now that Black Adam is in the house (who knew ancient Egyptians wore hoodies), things can only go up from here. Johns is doing a much better job of writing Shazam than he is the Justice League.
In the end, JUSTICE LEAGUE is the name of the book, and that what we all paid for. So Shazam can’t help its score, which is a 1 out 4.
Advance Review: In stores this month!
IRRESISTIBLE #1Writer: Raven Gregory
Publisher: Zenescope Entertainment
Reviewer: Optimous Douche
IRRESISTIBLE is hands down my favorite Zenescope title to date (sorry, Bug). Raven Gregory has not only spun an engaging tale that has a very TWILIGHT ZONE vibe to it, but he also tapped into the zeitgeist of the modern American male AND created the first Zenescope title where their famous cheesecake is not only fitting, it’s goddamn essential to tell the story.
Bravo, sir--IRRESISTIBLE is your shiny crown jewel!
Let’s start with the plot. After being dumped by his girlfriend over a year ago, Allen, a hapless mid-thirties schlub, happens upon the mugging of an elderly woman in an alleyway. Being a schlub, not a dick, he helps the old woman. When asked what he wants for his trouble, knowing the old woman could only offer him cat food and Depends undergarments, Allen merely laments the fact he would like to end his 18 month dry spell from the punani by being found irresistible by any woman he crosses paths with.
You can probably guess where this is going. The old woman was a gypsy and grants Allen his heart or junk’s desire, but the plot is far from all the goodness packed within the pages of this book.
The vein of truth Gregory really tapped for me was his keen insight into the mind of the 21st century American middle-aged male. Pop culture will have you believe that only women start to go partner crazy once they hit their mid-thirties. Au contraire, younglings--men also feel the same longings for stability and family especially as their elders start to die off in droves. I’m 37 and have a lot of single friends in the +/- 5 year range. While most of our talks are about comics, video games, and of course work, we do have our soulful moments where they lament a certain jealousy towards my impending 12 years of marital bliss. Humans are pack animals. While there will always be lone wolves in the world, the majority of us from cradle to grave seek a sense of belonging and kinship in this world.
The book opens with Allen’s pack pulling the same fucking boneheaded stunt most guys do to cheer up their single friends – strip club!
Gregory must have visited a few of these houses of ill repute, because he nailed the experience dead on. While the more jocular of the species can shut off their higher functioning brain and let the lizard mind take over, there are many of us that can see past the garter belt charade. Candy, Chartreuse and Angel are not their real names, they don’t actually like you, and if it wasn’t for the surge of testosterone that makes men dumb as nails this business would have died years ago. Allen is one of those more cerebral guys and his observations of this flesh charade are thoughts that have traversed my mind when faced with the inevitable dollar tuck. The only difference between me and Allen is that I usually break the 4th wall by telling the strippers “nice choice” after they tell me their name in forced introductions. There’s a good bit of this first issue devoted to this time in the club and I can’t think of a more original introduction to a lovelorn protagonist. Strip clubs are fun if you take them for what they are, but depressing as hell when you don’t have a warm body and heart to go home to afterwards. Allen perfectly laments the charade while pontificating what true love can be. Wonderful juxtaposition.
I’ll end where I began: the art. Again, Zenescope has been known for and often gets flack for its tantalizing cover art. Now, while these “fuck me” poses are usually tempered on the inside material, there is still the occasional misplaced cocked hip, pushed out ass, or pouty lips when put in context with the story. However, a story that starts in a strip club and ends with a guy getting fucked in a Starbucks bathroom once he is made magically irresistible—yeah, sexy poses make a lot of sense.
Gregory brings the goods, and when I find out who the artist is, I will give them the same accolades.
ALL STAR WESTERN #10Writers: Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti
Artists: Moritat and Jose Louis Garcia-Lopez
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: The Dean
After finishing the first issue of ALL STAR WESTERN, I could tell you with absolute certainty that this wasn’t the comic book I wanted. I wanted JONAH HEX; I wanted a guided tour of DC’s Wild West from the rootinest, tootinest bounty hunter to ever live! An ongoing story that puts Jonah in Gotham City solving mysteries with his buddy, Amadeus Akrham? That ain’t the Hex I know! I wanted the old Vertigo series, and though Hex was there, bringing Gray and Palmiotti with him, it was a different Hex monthly for a different DC, and I was too busy mourning the loss of Vertigo’s Hex to appreciate the New 52 version. But, as typically happens when I overreact, this title has been growing on me with every issue, and ALL STAR WESTERN #10 is easily my favorite of the run so far. It feels like the breakneck pace and scene setting from previous issues have been building to this stage in the series, so it’s time to sit back and enjoy what Gray and Palmiotti do better than anyone else – write a great Jonah Hex story.
I hadn’t really considered it before, but ALL STAR WESTERN is a pretty ambitious series. So far, the title is responsible for establishing a DC history that includes Jonah and his cast of outlaws; a Wayne family tree that leads all the way up to Bruce and Snyder’s current BATMAN arc; a Gotham City on the verge of becoming the criminal Candy Land we see in ‘present day,’ including the new Court of Owls faction; and finally, it must attract new readers and sell well despite its unfortunate title, which announces a struggling, niche genre in “Western” ( despite taking place entirely in an east coast, urban setting) coupled with the hammy, variety show label of “All Star.” That’s quite the Honey-Do list for Gray and Palmiotti, but it’s much more difficult to be disappointed by these two than it is to be impressed, and they’re handling their responsibilities exceptionally well, which is more evident than ever in ALL STAR WESTERN #10.
The issue opens immediately after Tallulah Black’s failed attempt to take Lucius Bennett’s life. The injured Tallulah comes into the care of Hex and Amadeus, which leads to the masterful sequences between any combination of Arkham, Black, and Hex that make this issue so great. Tallulah has only existed in this rebooted universe for one previous issue, but in one page here her character is so fully developed that it’s hard not to know what’s coming when Arkham meets her for the first time, and harder still to not enjoy it. There are very few characters in the DC Universe who are a more perfect fit for each other than Jonah Hex and Tallulah Black, and Gray and Palmiotti show this relationship off perfectly here. We get further development of the Court of Owls in this issue, and a fun nod to Morrison’s ARKHAM ASYLUM, but it all pales in comparison to the Hex/Black dynamic. Hex’s laughter at the sight of Tallulah intimidating Amadeus is pretty touching when you consider how infrequently this man smiles, let alone laughs from the gut like this, and the playful way in which Black tells the doctor “see ya tonight, doc” while upside down when Hex carries her upstairs is a rare, unguarded moment for her as well. It’s clear that these two are able to relate to each other more than they’re able to with anyone else on the planet, and the unrestrained level of glee they reach around each other is a lot of fun to watch, and a major selling point for me with future issues.
Not only is this the best main story installment of ALL STAR WESTERN thus far, but the Bat Lash short included here has to best of the series as well. I’ve enjoyed all of the shorts so far, with El Diablo being my favorite before this, but the levity of Bat Lash is the perfect dessert to the main story, and I’d love to read of Lash’s continuing adventures sometime in the future. These eight pages are exploding with action, adventure, and a charming sense of humor befitting of its main character, all wonderfully drawn by Jose Louis Garcia-Lopez. To be honest, the title “ALL STAR WESTERN” fits Lash’s exploits a lot more than they do Hex’s, as Lopez’s opening page screams “western,” and sets the tone well for the rest of the story. The art alone on this series has been reason enough to pick this title up on a monthly basis, and while it took me a while to jump on board with the story, I’ve been loving the work of Moritat from the get go. The hard black lines that border his panels really fade away when you’re reading his work, and set his pages consistently among the more seamless and easy to read in all of comics. Putting his talent for sequential storytelling aside, what’s within those panels is nothing short of awesome on a monthly basis. If I have one complaint, it’s that the detail fades away too quickly as characters are moved toward the background, but it’s such a minute critique, and it may very well be due to my desire to see as much of his work as possible, so let’s just forget I said it. As much as the writing deserves credit for the excellent Tallulah/Hex relationship, Moritat deserves credit for capturing the essence of these chacracters panel after panel, and matching Gray and Palmiotti’s descriptions of them word for word – when Dr. Arkham says of Tallulah that she’s a “monstrous and yet strangely alluring woman,” Moritat draws a monstrous and yet strangely alluring woman who is as easy to be repulsed by as she is to be attracted to. Gray and Palmiotti have been blessed with a number of talented artists in their work on Hex, but Moritat stands out as one of the best.
I can’t recommend this series enough for those of you still on the fence. ALL STAR WESTERN #10 is Gray and Palmiotti really settling into their new world, and it’s a true showcase of talent from all the creators involved. Bat-fans (which probably includes everyone) should be reading it for the Gotham history and Court of Owls tie-in, but I promise you’ll find it hard not to stick around for the myriad Western heroes involved. I still long for those single issue glory days of JONAH HEX, but I’m now perfectly content with this ongoing run that’s cementing Hex’s place more firmly in the rebooted DC history.
THE HYPERNATURALS #1Writer: Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning
Artists: Brad Walker & Andres Guinaldo and friends
Publisher: BOOM! Studios
Reviewer: Masked Man
I’ll go on record by saying Dan n Andy’s comic books at Marvel were some of the most boring ones I ever read. Even being a huge Nova fan, I just couldn’t get into their run. They had some cool ideas, but the books themselves did nothing for me.
So here they are working on their own project, and they’re doing a good job! Yes, I was quite stunned to find this comic interesting. Not just because of the writers, but historically speaking, indie superhero books are usually bad (remember Darkhorse’s or Malibu’s superheroes?) Well, I suppose times have changed, with good indie superhero books like INVINCIBLE and IRREDEEMABLE. Thankfully, HYPERNATURALS seem to be another good book.
The story takes place in the future. DnA love their space tales, as they always like to come up with clever future tech and space jargon. They even go to great lengths explaining how the Hypernaturals aren’t the typical superhero team. They’re a government sponsored superhero team, with recruitment and commitment terms--like an army or sports team. Well all that stuff is fluff to me, so I’m not going to give it points for that. DnA do score points for the important things, like good characters, plot, and writing!
The book starts off with a flashback to a former team line as they handle the worst day of their careers. It showcases a super (--er, hypernatural) villain named Sublime--typical crazy genius. Jump to the ‘present’ and the current team has had an even worse day. The team appears to be dead, along with a whole planet. Who could have caused this all? You guessed it: Sublime. So now retired team members and green recruits are assigned to find out what the heck happened. On top of that is Clone 45, once the greatest Hypernatural, now just a bum. You can bet this story will somehow redeem him, but DnA are handling him well, making him interesting enough not to be the cliché he may sound like. Good things are going on in this book, with decent pacing. We are given enough time with each of the five main characters to feel something for them. If you a fan of the Legion of Superheroes, you should check this out.
The art team on the book does a good job as well, though I think the outfits are awful looking. You might not be singing Brad Walker (and the gang’s) praises, but you won’t hate them either (like some guys working on those non-indie superheroes books).
Dan and Andy have a really nice start to their latest adventure, scoring a 3 out 4.
Advance Review: In stores today!
HE-MAN & THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE #1Writer: James Robinson
Art: Phillip Tan
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Ambush Bug
Not the most deftly written. Not the most nuanced. Not the most cleverly orchestrated, but dammit if James Robinson’s new take on HE-MAN & THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE didn’t strum all of the right chords of nostalgia in me. Sure, it was cooler to play with GI JOE and STAR WARS figures (and I did all of the time), but for some reason all of the goofy characters of the MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE line had me from the get go, and for the same reason GI JOE has such a firm hold of my nostalgia glands: it was all because of the trifecta of the cartoon, the toy, and the comic book. In this case, little comics that came with the toys served as a gateway drug I couldn’t say no to and with HE-MAN & THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE placed in the time slot directly after GI JOE, I couldn’t help but fall for it all.
At its core, MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE is your typical SHAZAM/PRIME/SUPERIOR/BIG scenario as a young boy lives out his super hero fantasies in the body of a man. What set it apart from the rest was the amazing cast of characters that surrounded He-Man. Though none of them save Beast Man shows up in this issue, Robinson does a good job of introducing us to a different kind of Eternia. Skeletor rules the land from his perch on Snake Mountain, which Adam sees in the distance as he chops timber in a dark forest. This is not the Prince Adam we remember from the cartoons, but a humble serf taking care of his delusional father who was once a strong woodsman, but now hallucinates about a lost life as King of the realm. Adam is comfortable in his role as peasant and nobly takes care of his father, but dreams of high adventure in a hulking body fighting skull-faced monsters. This is an interesting twist that Robinson throws readers placing the nobility of Eternia defeated and seemingly under a spell making them forget who they really are. It’s a nice twist—a good place for a story to start. Not completely original since this type of thing usually happens to the gods of Asgard and Greece on occasion when they want to shake things up, but strong enough to support the vast cast of this series. As with those tales often told in THOR, WOMDER WOMAN, and HERCULES, the quest of finding the lost warriors and waking them from this trance gets pretty repetitious, but some of the variants of what Ram Man, Stratos, and Man at Arms could be do make me want to see them.
Art wise, the book is pretty strong. Phillip Tan does a decent job and definitely has some vivid panel play happening here, especially in the brutal battle with Beast Man in the forest, but my one criticism here has to do with the costume designs of the characters which is just a little too similar to the figures. Now, I know die hard fans will be happy that these characters haven’t changed at all from the characters they played with as a kid, but there’s something about the uniform across the broad design of big muscular body, tiny furry speedo, bulky belt or armor strap that lacks originality. Given the way Tan reinterprets Adam as a smaller framed man with similarly colored but slightly altered clothing which resembles the Prince Adam figure, but makes him fit much more into the story taking place; I couldn’t help but wish Tan would have taken the same liberties with the design of Beast Man, Skeletor, and He-Man. Beast Man does look pretty scary here, all teeth and claws, and what looks to be some kind of metal nipple chain thing going on under that orange fur. So maybe Tan will surprise us with the redesigns, but the Skeletor from the last panel doesn’t look very ominous at all with his fetish gear on.
Design decisions aside, this is a fun continuation of the HE MAN story. Robinson sets up a fun premise and gives us a fantastic action sequence with Beast Man, so no complaints from me. I’m in this series for the long haul, if only because it reminds me of being a kid again.
Ambush Bug is Mark L. Miller, original @$$Hole/wordslinger/reviewer/co-editor of AICN Comics for over ten years. He has written comics such as MUSCLES & FIGHTS, MUSCLES & FRIGHTS, VINCENT PRICE PRESENTS TINGLERS & WITCHFINDER GENERAL, THE DEATHSPORT GAMES, WONDERLAND ANNUAL 2010 & NANNY & HANK (soon to be made into a feature film from Uptown 6 Films). He is also a regular writer for FAMOUS MONSTERS OF FILMLAND & has co-written their first ever comic book LUNA: ORDER OF THE WEREWOLF (to be released in October 2012 as an 100-pg original graphic novel). Mark's most comic book miniseries GRIMM FAIRY TALES PRESENTS THE JUNGLE BOOK from Zenescope Entertainment will be released March through August 2012 and GRIMM FAIRY TALES #76-80 beginning in August 2012!
LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN CENTURY: 2009 #1Writer: Alan Moore
Artist: Kevin O'Neill
Publishers: Top Shelf Productions & Knockabout
Reviewer: Professor Challenger
“I rocked the fretful baby gods to sleep before time started...and I am companion to the women who paste up the stars. The quarters of the world are bound unto my compass. I have taken tea with earthquakes. I know what the bee knows...and you really are a dreadful little boy.” -- Mary Poppins/Prospero/God to Harry Potter/Anti-Christ
For those of you who thought the previous CENTURY volumes were confusing or meandering, well...there was purpose to the madness. CENTURY is brilliantly wrapped up with the 2009 volume that brings the literary world of fiction into the apocalypse and the final battle between the Anti-Christ and God (as embodied by Harry Potter and Mary Poppins).
The genius of Alan Moore's insanity is how such a complicated story can gestate within his mind and be perfectly executed when visualized by Kevin O'Neill, whose art simply sings on this project. The game of spotting the literary and entertainment cameos and references is there and can make rereading the series more fun as you dig into track down the various things you didn't spot before. However, now that the series has concluded, I went back and reread the whole thing (including THE BLACK DOSSIER) and realize just how well-planned and executed this project has been. There are so many foreshadowed thematic and plot elements in 1910 that it took reading the conclusion to realize not the least of these is the blistering satirical criticism of the advent of literature as franchising. James Bond and Harry Potter come under the most wicked commentaries here, most especially by Moore's indulgent incarnation of the Anti-Christ as that wretched, unlikeable, little boy from the Harry Potter series.
Moore's symbolism is strongly in place here as he takes the strong phallic elements that permeate J.K. Rowling's popular series – most especially in terms of the “wand” as phallic symbol – and he literalizes it. His use of the Blazing World and the whole 3D glasses visual established in THE BLACK DOSSIER sets such an interesting visual for me in reading it. How do you identify “God” as a character when he/she can take any form? Look for the tell-tale green/red 3D glasses. It's so simple. I wonder if Moore is even aware of all the various ways this can be used as a symbol like that. I'm thinking about the “magic sunglasses” that Joseph Smith claimed to use to be able to read the golden plates containing the Book of Mormon for example.
If the original 2 LoEG series were mainly character arcs about Allan Quatermain and Mina Harker, this CENTURY series has been about Mina and Orlando, with Allan taking an ever-increasing backseat even to the point of becoming a homeless beggar on the streets of London. It all makes sense with the strong commentary that Moore is making here about the transition from the great heroic literature of the Victorian age and the beginning of the modern novel and its rejections of the forms and limits of the Victorian age. Orlando heralded the new age of modernism in writing and Moore is full-scale criticism of the downfall of civilized discourse in both the real world and in the world of fiction in Orlando's wake.
br>As recognized by writer Tom Jordan on the 2009 Annotations website, this story is about Orlando's symbolic redemption. And, by the way, Orlando wields Excalibur – yet another great phallic symbol of literature and representation of both the life and death of Camelot, itself a Heaven analog like The Blazing World.
I've tried to figure out why so many have been increasingly critical of Moore's LoEG series basically starting with THE BLACK DOSSIER and I don't want to kneejerk it as claiming people aren't smart enough to “get” it. That's not the case. There are plenty of genius works out there that find an audience and near universal acclaim. I am going to go out on a limb and say that LoEG is a perfect reflection of Moore's emotional state at the point that he is writing them. As such, the first 2 LoEG series are grand adventures that are an intellectual and literary playground. Beginning with THE BLACK DOSSIER and now fully realized in CENTURY, is Moore the jaded and grumpy critic. He's still playing in the playground of fictionality but now he is filtering his storytelling through an increasingly dark and angry prism. He is angry at the business of literature in all its forms. He is angry about the business of mass media – the business of franchising – the business of literature merely as licensing and lowest common denominator appeal. CENTURY is Moore's lament on what has been lost because of the business of literature. We have lost that sense of joy and freedom, that sense of individual vision, that unified knowledge of our past, present, and future through literature that glorifies the human spirit and sees mankind as good and not depraved. The destruction of civilization in the world of the LoEG has followed the same path as literature itself as modernism and post-modernism and deconstructionism and dystopian post-apocalyptian themes have supplanted what came before. This is the world ripe for the Apocalypse of The Book of Revelation and personified by Harry Potter as Anti-Christ.
I think this negative spiral and angry tone and spirit to his approach in this series has caused Moore's audience to disconnect from him. Comic book readers by large are looking for escapism, and Moore's CENTURY series requires one to see through the darkeness and anger to see both the sharp-witted humorous criticism in the satire but also that spark of hope. Moore is taking his readers to the precipice in 2009 just so he can offer redemption to all.
Moore is saying to his readers with 2009 that the future does not have to be bleak. It can be bright. It's okay to be angry but just grousing about it does no good. 2009 is a challenge to all creators of fiction to recapture literature back from the arms of the lawyers and the corporations.
CENTURY 2009 is a triumph of individualism in creation and in literature and I found it brilliant.
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AQUAMAN #10Writer: Geoff Johns
Artists: Ivan Reis
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Masked Man
I can’t tell you how refreshing it is to read a good Aquaman book. Sorry, Orin lovers, but I’m firm lover of Arthur, the original Aquaman. Lucky for me, so is Geoff Johns.
So what is great about this issue? Well, first off it has Ivan Reis’s amazing artwork. The guy really is one of the best in comics today, and probably the best artist currently working for DC. From the great reveal of the old man to a sweet two page spread of Aquaman and Black Manta punching it out, what’s not to love about this man’s art? I know he’s created a lot of Mera fans as well. Shout outs to Inkers Joe Prado and Andy Lanning as well, not to mention colorist Rod Reis. They all help make this one of the best looking books on the market.
Mind you, no matter how great the art is, I’m gone if I don’t like the story. Thankfully, Johns is bringing his ‘A’ game here. However, I’m not crazy about the new reason Black Manta hates Aquaman (I’ll try not to spoil the big flashback incident). Not that I’m against what Aquaman did. This wasn’t a cheap shot, like what they did with Wonder Woman. Aquaman has always been very quick to get angry (well, except in “The Brave and the Bold” cartoon). So it’s not totally out of line that given the right circumstances he’d snap like that (sorry). But did Black Manta really need this to hate Aquaman? Not everyone has to be connected--Did Joker really need to be the guy that killed Bruce Wayne’s parents? Still, this is no game breaker, because Black Manta is a bad ass, and he kicks a lot of it in here.
The Others are coming together nicely as well. Johns is doing a good job of mixing action (that doesn’t seem random) while introducing the Others to us. While the plot is still a mystery, which usually drives me crazy, I feel Johns is moving it forward with each issue. Johns is also doing a good job introducing more elements to Aquaman and his history (and Zero month hasn’t even hit yet!). So I’m glued to my seat to see how Shin, Black Manta, Aquaman, and the Others all got together. Not to mention what is up with Atlantis itself!
Aquaman continues to one of the best DC has these days--a solid 3 out 4.
An Advance @$$Hole 2 in 1 Review!
BATMAN: EARTH ONE VOL.1Writer: Geoff Johns
Art: Gary Frank
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewers: Optimous Douche & Ambush Bug
OPTIMOUS DOUCHE (OD): I'm an alternate reality whore. From "What If" to 'Elseworlds," I love it all. But the EARTH ONE titles (all two of them now) have resonated more to me than just a one-off throw away like their aforementioned ancestors. These stories feel far more real, as if the Earth woke up one day, in 2011 or 2012, and BAM superheroes are real, bitches. These are essentially what I wanted the New 52 to be, especially since New and 52 were mere whispers on the lips of PR professionals when SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE was released. Yes, I was giddy at the prospect of the Multiverse being opened back up at the end of FINAL CRISIS, but EARTH ONE especially took my glee to a new zenith of ecstasy when I first read SUPERMAN Zuckerberg. With BATMAN: EARTH ONE we may have shifted focus over to Gotham, but every element of updating the mythology is as here and now as it was in SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE.
AMBUSH BUG (BUG): Hmmm. Me not so much. See, the thing I don't like about alternate realities is that it's kind of like the rules of magic when done badly: there are none. In alternate realities, we are immediately thrown into a familiar situation, only one or two things are different. I'll give it to you, the EARTH ONE books are top notch, but in the end, everyone is just waiting for the beats to happen that happened in the DC prime universe: What's the Joker going to be like? What's Arkham going to be like? When will Robin be making an appearance?
OD: Agreed, magic needs rules. Seems an apple and orange comparison to me, though. As you pointed out, without certain tent poles the book goes from a reimagining of a character to a Mark Millar deconstruction.
BUG: Pretty soon, when these "new and different" versions of what has come before happen, the readers get sick of it as do the writers, then they move on and retell the retelling again. I mean, how many times do I have to sit through a retelling of Batman's origin? Same with Spider-Man. Same with Superman. I want new stories, not retellings of the same stories over and over. That's my initial beef with this entire EARTH ONE thing. Aside from this being the first time Johns has written solely Batman, I really wasn't interested in it going in.
OD: Personally, I'm not sick of it as long as the reimagining is done well and rings true within the context of the new universe that's being created. Where the New 52 dropped the ball in my opinion is that it tried to make it our world where these heroes were first appearing, but the whole 5 year before thing was rushed and not holistic enough. With only two books on the shelves out of the whole 52 line-up that were set 5 years before the entire concept got lost. And even in those books the world was still much more technologically advanced than we are now. Look at ACTION and show me a city (in the US) where a train system looks like that. With EARTH ONE everything felt like it was our world in both SUPERMAN and now BATMAN.
As for the tropes of Joker, Arkham and other Bat goodies, I dug Johns' interpretation, athough we should mention Joker is not the baddie of focus here and Robin isn't even a glimmer in this young Batman's eyes. Making Martha Wayne an Arkham, though--I thought was a delicious twist.
BUG: Yeah, I know the Joker isn't the focus in this and neither is Robin, but you know that's what everyone will be asking about at the cons and on the message boards. And inevitably it's what people will get, because they don't know of anything else. And, seemingly, neither do these creators who tell the same story over and over. Seriously, enough is enough with these origins. It doesn't matter the tweaks that are put into it. They're all window dressing. The framework is the same. Kid's parents are killed in an alley. Servant steps in to raise kid. Kid trains and is brooding. Kid becomes Batman. I've seen it all before and want to read a new story.
Now, the subtle changes were interesting to me, ad I don't know if Johns did this intentionally or if this is his inner child coming out. Alfred is elevated to hero status, which in a child's eyes is exactly what he would most likely look like. Making this change seems like Johns is looking at this story through a child's eyes. Same goes for making Bruce a snotty kid who brags to the robber that he's the richest kid in Gotham. Then his parents are snuffed for it. To me, that's an infantile way of looking at a situation and bringing guilt to the character. By doing that, sure it makes Batman more identifiable (much more like Peter Parker who lets the robber go and then he goes on to kill uncle Ben), but at the same time, it makes him all the more infantile in blaming himself for something that ultimately was out of his hands. As I said, this may be a conscious choice of Johns to handle matters in this way, but I really don't like a guilt-ridden, insecure Batman. All of a sudden, the senseless act of violence has meaning, which kind of ruins the mystique of Batman for me.
OD: See, I think that's one of the things Johns didn't change. Batman was always racked with guilt over his parent's death. He was the one that wanted to see fucking Zorro. And on that note, good job finally shitcanning the movie title. It was dated when Miller did YEAR ONE so many years ago and definitely would not have worked today.
As for the perpetual retelling of origins, I see this as a cyclical necessity. Now I'll admit, in recent years this has happened far more often then is needed for that generational bridge, so I don't see this being done for the sake of freshness and generational relevancy of the characters, but more of a marketing stratification. Mike Uslan said it best when we did an interview a few years ago. I'll paraphrase:
There is no one true continuity anymore. All the houses realized a long time ago that different iterations of their heroes will appeal to different demographics. BATMAN BEYOND is a very different "continuity" than the portrait Snyder is painting of Wayne in BATMAN proper; likewise with YOUNG JUSTICE. But for me they work and work well. I hear the lament for trueness of the character, but that shit died the minute the creators walked away from titles and everything was farmed out to teams of writers.
Personally, this is the BATMAN I want to read because, THIS world, EARTH ONE, has never heard of costumed heroes, so it gives me a sense of freshness I think that's akin to when Grandfather picked up http://now.msn.com/living/0630-drunk-cabs-vomit.aspx?ocid=ansnow11so many years ago - or what would have happened if my Grandfather was literate. I also love the format. Give me a $20 complete story every two months in beautiful hardcover versus floppies please, I'm old and I have a job, it's cool.
BUG: My grandfather had no arms, you insensitive ponce!!!
OD: That's his your cowgirl Grandma's problem pal. Batman...stay focused!
BUG: No, he had arms. And a penis, which made my father--but I'm getting off track.
I understand your argument and realize that the older I get, the more I have to make a decision. Am I comfortable with a reboot every five years or am I willing to say, "OK, my Batman is gone and I don't really want to read him any more." I like that Snyder is building on the history of Gotham right now. To me, that expands the mythos so much more than reimagining it for the umpteenth time. I understand why marketing does the retooled origin every other year, but as a long time reader, I'm kind of bored with it. It's interesting that Johns is doing this, given his penchant for respecting history though.
I agree about the Waynes going to see ZORRO being dated. I think they could have updated it to ZORRO, THE GAY BLADE, but I think I'm showing my age referencing that one too. It would have said a lot about Tom and Martha though if they did go see it.
OD: Yes, Gay Blade would have been dated as well, especially since it only stayed in theaters for a week and a half. Ahhh, early HBO, thank you. OK, so let's look at the story for the half of the readers that didn't abandon our Grumpy Old Comic Reader tirade.
Now, I think the whole damn story was spectacular, but the beginning moments as Bruce Wayne essentially suck ass a crime fighter and possesses a series of broke ass tools was especially engaging. For the first time in a long time I actually felt a palatable sense of danger. After all, once you've beat Darkseid's Omega Beams there aren't too many other places to go as a character. Here's a Bruce Wayne that hasn't done dick in crime fighting and doesn't really know how.
BUG: I agree, Batman in training is an interesting way to go. A much more interesting trip than,say, SMALLVILLE. I always thought a GOTHAM TC series would have been infinitely cooler That said, I think the transition from amateur to goddamn Batman was pretty fast. I know Bruce is nowhere near the master by the end of the issue, but it appears that all he needed was a visit to see Lucious Fox to get the job done. I think things moved way too fast in the latter half of this book and thought that the way it ended basically left us with a very close version of the Batman we know today.
OD: And what do we think of the reimagining of other characters? I have to admit, 2012 is the year of Penguin. First he had the great turn in PENGUIN: PAIN AND PREJUDICE and his turn in BATMAN EARTH ONE--Almost a Michael Corleone, trying to use his ill-gotten gains to legitimize himself. When we finally get to meet him as Mayor of Gotham I was shocked to see him in that capacity, keeping his stupid umbrellas in a stand where they belong and doing all of his dirty deeds under the cover of a legitimate front. Also, nice twist with making the demise of Thomas and Martha Wayne a political move (ooops--spoiler).
BUG: I really enjoyed the use of subtlety when it came to the Penguin. Like when Batman was lunging at him and he stabbed him with the umbrella. Sure, it's not a shotgun umbrella, but it still gives a wink to the hokeyness of the character, while still making him a crafty bird. I also really liked the sick introduction of Birthday Boy. He seemed much more Morrisonian than something Johns usually makes up, but fit into the story well. Again, though, I wonder had we not known who the Penguin was prior to reading this, would we be so impressed with this incarnation.
OD: Yeah, he just would have been another corrupt politician without our foreknowledge, but that's OK. This is EARTH ONE, baby. Now, Alfred....
BUG: You mean Sam Elliot?
OD: I was going to focus less on the visage and more the fact Alfred is no longer genetically bound to serving the Wayne family like he came over on the Amistad. I like that he and Thomas served in, I'm guessing. Desert Storm. And I like the new look. I was growing tired of the traditional poncey butler.
I would say my favorite transformation, though, was Harvey Bullock from a hard boiled trench coat detective to Hollywood reality police star. It’s a very sensible and pertinent modernization choice.
BUG: Harvey was cool. But was I the only one who got a bit confused and thought it was Harvey Dent at first? Either way, it looks like fit and hunky Harvey will be developing his beer gut soon given the last panel. It'd be hilarious if in Vol.2 he is 200lbs heavier and more like the Harvey we all know and love.
OD: What would be even funnier is Harvey Dent showed up in Vol. 2 wearing a trench coat and was 200 pounds.
BUG: The introduction of Dent's twin sister is an interesting twist, given the dual nature of Dent's fascination with duality. I'm interested in seeing where that's going as well as the sneak peek at the Riddler in the end. But again, these are just reimaginings and reinterpretations, which is interesting only to a point with me.
It sure did look pretty though. Gary Frank can do no wrong in my book.
OD: Goes without saying...hell, even though Batman's original grappling gun was broke ass on the first page, Frank made the goddamn thing look like something from one of my dreams. This level of detail officially anoints him as the anti-Liefeld.
BUG: Yes, sprinkle a little Gary Frank on Liefeld and it shamwow that shit away, right quick!
OD: OK, cardinal rule of reviewing, as soon as we talk about one artist sprinkling another the end is definitely nigh. I'm in it to win it with EARTH ONE. If I lost my job tomorrow and had only one comic I could buy it would be this universe. It's relevant and I have been begging for the shift from monthly floppies to complete stories delivered quarterly for years now. I've seen some advanced pages for SUPERMAN: EARTH ONE VOL. 2 and I can't wait to see the thing completed. Honestly, I want DC to expand the whole universe, but for fuck's sake do it organically. This universe doesn't need Booster Gold; as much as I love Goldie he's a contrivance of a time gone by. Expand, but do so with relevance to the 21st century DC.
BUG: If this were the only Bat-book out there, I'd be happy, but fortunately, there's Scott Snyder's BATMAN. Right now, with the way he is bringing history to Gotham, I have to say his work edges out Johns. But this is a good book. Redundant and somewhat unnecessary, but fun.
HELL YEAH #4
About the end of the first arc (or five/six issues) of a new book I like to think it’s safe to say if I’ve got a feel for a book, and I really don’t think I have much of a feel for HELL YEAH here by now. Oh, I like the idea behind the book – a first generation of post-superhero superheroes – but after having read four issues of the characters therein, I don’t really care much about/for any of them. Honestly, outside of our lead, Ben (who is kind of a smarmy hipster dick) I can’t even name any without looking. There’s a neat alternate reality jumping plotline that is basically other Bens going all Jet Li from the movie “One” on down the line in order to show the type of superhero tropes this book wants to play with, but it isn’t stuff I haven’t experienced before in my comic book reading outside of its tone (which, like Ben, comes off kind of “hipster chic” and is definitely not my bag). I don’t want to rag on this book as “bad” or come off as overly severe on it as it’s more a case of “not my taste” but I think lack of attachment this many issues in is somewhat troubling. Still, I must say it does have its sense of style about it so maybe I will revisit this in another arc once some more character and world building has been done. - Humphrey Lee
MIND THE GAP #2
Now, to go along with my almost “Debbie Downer” review of HELL YEAH, I have to say that MTG #2 here is almost in the same boat in the aspect of character building but it is going above and beyond your conventional plot building. The problem is, it is to the detriment of the overall book. There’re good characters in here, but they are each getting such a scant amount of page space it’s really hard to move them further than the big splurge of character droppings that came in the oversized first issue. The ambition is there for this big, bold whodunit with this group of varying degrees of intimacy, but without the insight into each and possible motivations, it rings a little hollow. Also, and I hate to be this blunt on the matter but I will: It’s one thing to have a big, intricate mystery you are proud of but it does no good to continually point at it and give “didja see the thing? Didja didja didja!?!?!” which is more annoying than motivating and is what I’m getting out of the back matter here. The best mysteries are work, yes-indeedy-do, but the overall work rings a little hollow when you force the effort instead of letting it develop naturally. Especially this early on when there (rightfully) isn’t full information to work on and it becomes more frustrating than motivating to pay it forward if you think you’re missing details already. The mystery looks properly mysterious with lots of nooks and crannies, the characters also seem to as well, but as the title says, let the readers mind the gap, not feel like they have to take a giant leap into it. - Humphrey Lee
Lastly, for the Image trifecta, a book that I was actually down on (surprise!) a couple issues back but am happy to see the “fresh start” of a new arc be just that. As is the theme with my coverage this week I was pretty down on the scattershot of characters and plot building that FATALE was presenting. This issue is a little more drawn back, overall complicating the life of Nick as he tries and figure out the mystery that is Josephine and his obsession with her and almost gets a bullet for his feelings. But then there’s a pull back and refocus on the past again, this time with a new character – a 70’s actor named Miles – and how he accidentally got mixed in with the ever ageless Josephine and the cult that always ends up after her and the men in her life. If anything, the time period pieces of this book have been its biggest draw as the background they create has been more or less a character itself so a 70’s setting, considering all the “free love” it represents, and combine it with all the culty goodness and it seems like a pairing rife with commentary. That this looks to be a means for Brubaker and Philips to doing some plugging away at the past and mystique of Josephine is all the better. Sometime soon I’ll probably have to pencil in a reread of what we’ve got so far to make sure I’m not missing something and have my head around the overarching bits of FATALE, but this issue went a long way to make me feel the overall picture is going to come into focus a bit more and at a steadier clip. - Humphrey Lee
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July 4, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST
July 4, 2012, 10:43 a.m. CST
On a comic related note, can't wait for Walking Dead #100!
July 4, 2012, 11:03 a.m. CST
with art that has never progressed beyond the 90's
July 4, 2012, 12:38 p.m. CST
The Amazing Spider-Man: Forced humor, over use of one-liners, and a juvenile Peter Parker. ASM is overall pretty bad. And it's Slott's fault.
by The Krypton Kid
The great Spidey writers - Lee, Stern, DeMatteis, Busick, Straczynski - knew how to write a funny Peter without turning the book into a gag-fest and non-stop set up for one-liners. Slott is far from a great writer. His storytelling lacks heart and maturity. It's really bad stuff honestly. Slott's stuff lacks dramatic weight and dramatic weight is essential to the life of Peter Parker.
July 4, 2012, 1:17 p.m. CST
Oh my god.....seriously? Copyright claim, maybe, but don't act like there's nothing morally wrong with any of this.
God, seriously? Fuck, man. I won't even try to phrase it as eloquently as David Brothers of ComicsAlliance did, but read his article The Ethical Rot of Before Watchmen and then try to argue. It's fine that you want a good story. I respect that. I don't detract anybody that's buying this series. That said, don't detract me for my views on this. Personally, I see it as disgustingly immoral, a sign of creative bankruptcy, and most importantly, unnecessary. Watchmen is in my top three favorite books of all time alongside One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and The Great Gatsby. Even if Alan Moore blessed this entirely, hell, even if Alan Moore wrote it himself, I would be avoiding it. I don't need anything added to this story. It's perfect as it is. In closing, I did just look up to see who wrote it and saw that it was Optimus. I won't edit any of what I just typed based on that revelation, but I will add this: I like your stuff a lot, man. You're possibly my favorite writer in this column. So this is coming from a fan: that was kind of unnecessary, man.
July 4, 2012, 2:33 p.m. CST
Isn't Ozymandias #1 the issue that contains an interview with Len Wein using it as a platform solely to insult Moore?
by Lone Fox
As seen in the preview in Bleeding Cool #0. Sorry, that's not misguided moral high-ground, or misunderstanding copyright law. It's having a bad taste left in the mouth because the people making money off the universe established by Alan Moore are acting so fucking abysmally. I was set to collect all the Before Watchmen titles, provided the quality was there. Unfortunately, that was before Len Wein, JMS, and others put the boot in.
July 4, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
Comicbook characters will live forever because new creators take over. If no one could ever create another watchmen story (because Moore's not doing it), then the Marvel Universe should have come to a complete stop after Stan Lee stop writing. I get that people frick'n love the original comic, but seriously it's like you want the Green Bay Packers to stop playing football after Vince Lombardi stopped coaching them!
July 4, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST
I felt that way before reading the Brothers article all those weeks ago, but then seeing his words echo my own thoughts on the whole dismal affair just helped to solidify my opinion all the more. Sure, they have a lot of top talent working on the books, but it's still a project that just feels superfluous to me, especially when you consider the original work did such an excellent job of providing just enough back story to make each of the Watchmen relatable, or at least more human. Then there's the fact that there is no shortage of quality books that aren't $4... So yeah, no thanks.
July 4, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST
But his stuff was good then and good now. Liefeld was bad then and he's still bad- maybe even worst. I'd say George Perez hasn't improved much since the mid 80's- but his stuff still looks awesome!
July 4, 2012, 3:06 p.m. CST
...I think it's more about Creator's Rights and the lack of respect DC is showing Alan Moore in his objection to a continuation (albeit in prequel form) of his masterwork.
July 4, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST
July 4, 2012, 3:37 p.m. CST
I'm okay with this... I'm okay with what DC is doing. I'm okay with paying more money for a book that wouldn't exist if DC hadn't successfully screwed Moore and Gibbons out of their property rights. I'm okay with paying four dollars for a book that barely has twenty pages of story. I'm okay with the fine print. I'm okay with DC neglecting the creators of their most popular property since Batman so they can make a quick cash grab. I'm okay with DC exploring the world 'Before' Watchmen because they lack the vision or creativity to imagine a simple sequel, or God forbid, an original idea. I'm okay with unoriginal ideas. I'm okay with the corporate system strangling creative thought. I'm okay with publishers pissing in the face of any and all creators who come after this book. I'm okay with creators not getting credit for the inspiring characters they invented. I'm okay with all of these practices continuing for years to come, getting worse and ultimately no creator, artist or writer will ever be acknowledged for their work, because it basically boils down to a property, an idea merely liberated from the creator's mind but not free from corporate ownership, and "Hey they're dead now so fuck 'em anyway." Or as Brothers himself put it, I'm okay with the "ethical rot" of comics today. The Brothers article also spoke at length about Marvel's Avengers movie and their appalling treatment of Jack Kirby, but I won't get into that here. Suffice to say that although I've never met the man, I love his work, and have yet to see the Avengers movie because of that.
July 4, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST
@ theshadowsnose Absolutely. For me, it's the lack of respect increasingly shown towards creators by the 'big 2' that puts me off
by Lone Fox
As an indie comic creator, I used to aspire towards getting a break on a Marvel or DC book. Now, I'd rather carve my own niche. Look at the talent they've shit on over the years. It's appalling. Now, Moore cut a bad deal years back on Watchmen, HOWEVER promises were made by DC that were subsequently broken. Still, seeing new talent take on those characters? Great. But for the editor and others to then slate Moore while simultaneously riding his coat-tails... it's unprofessional, and it's shitty treatment to dish out to a creator who's made them a hell of alot of money (which is what they care about, after all). JMS even said something along the lines of "Oh well, Kirby got a bad deal too", like that justified it! @ maskedman This situation has no bearing on different creators working on, say, Batman, Spider-Man etc. Completely different.
July 4, 2012, 4:08 p.m. CST
Fuck Alan Moore. A one-trick goddamn pony who's writing has gotten more pathetic with age. How did JK Rowlings feel about Moore using her characters in LXG 2009? Do you think Bram Stoker wanted Mina Harker to be a pan-sexual libertine, getting raped and fucking she-males and whatnot? The characters in Watchmen are Charlton characters anyway. And fuck Watchmen while I'm at it. Great art. Suffocating, bullshit story. Particularly how "the smartest man in the world" comes up with "the dumbest idea in the world." And it works. Blech.
July 4, 2012, 4:13 p.m. CST
I probably won't read Before Watchmen (unless I can read free when the library gets a collected copy) simply because I don't usually like prequels and thought Watchmen was fine as is. However, the level of fury over this seems above and beyond the justification. Comic book characters get redone all the time so why shouldn't Watchmen? Just because it's so well regarded makes it untouchable? Hardly. Ironically, Moore's greatest successes seem to involve new treatments of the creations of others. Does anyone think JK Rowling would be thrilled to see a Harry Potter knockoff as the Anti Christ in LOEG? Or is it ok to crap on her stuff because it's commercial and not "literary art"? I don't know anything about whether Moore got screwed by DC over the legal rights. That's for the courts to decide. But if I wanted to boycott a property because the creator got screwed, I can think of a lot of others to boycott first, starting with Superman moving thru Thor and the Hulk and onto the Avengers.
July 4, 2012, 4:24 p.m. CST
July 4, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST
Exactly! I'd crap on Before Watchmen for the same reason. Then again, comics are a business so I can see how you'd think that's some faulty logic. Everybody keeps siting the use of Harry Potter in 2009 but it's really thinly-veiled and the character is being used more as a criticism of culture in general than as an insult to Rowling's work. Anyway, it's funny! Moore obviously hasn't read the entire HP series and he's just using this literary figure as his source for a couple of bad jokes. Harry Potter became a joke anyway when they started producing all those movies and toys and countless other products, and the whole "Kids are reading again!" argument became moot. Before Watchmen on the other hand is being treated like a serious extension of the narrative, which is also funny, but less in a "haha dick jokes!" way and more like a "Damn, that is so sad all those great creators can't work on their own ideas" kinda deal. Btw, HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY EVERYBODY!
July 4, 2012, 5:11 p.m. CST
by Lone Fox
It's because these companies screw creators then shit on them, and everyone is so permissive of it- that appalls me. Again, there's a world of difference between the way, for example, Bill Finger got screwed over by Bob Kane and DC over co-creating Batman, and Moore's treatment over Watchmen. Both situations reek of malpractice, but they ARE different. Citing Moore's work on other people's creations such as Swamp Thing, Batman etc, or his use of Harry Potter et al in LOEG as hypocrisy is stupid. There's no breach of copyright or unfair use of trademarked characters. Speaking of Batman, I have a Batman collected volume that, in the index, lists all the creators involved accompanied by a gushing biography- except Bill Finger, who has a couple of lines referring to him as "being tardy" and always submitting work late. Classy move, DC.
July 4, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST
It's a goddamn comic book about super-heroes. ONE MORE TIME: Moore is not a great artist. He's not Herman Melville, he's not William Faulkner or Alice Munro or Flannery O'Connor, or even one of the great dramatists of stage and film. He's a fucking COMIC BOOK WRITER, and as his only ongoing "creation" is a Wold Newton combination of OTHER PEOPLE'S CREATIONS (whom he routinely has behave in ways contrary to their original creators depictions). Shut the fuck up Alan Moore, before I beat your silly ass.
July 4, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST
Nor is there any kind of ethical breach, as DC retains rights to the characters as long as they keep the work in print. So, fox, legally speaking, DC is actually on very firm ground. Whereas Moore uses other people's creations that are in the public domain. Watchmen characters are the property of DC, period.
July 4, 2012, 6:32 p.m. CST
The original creators don't own the material, the company does. So they can make new issues when ever they want. @kungfuhustler84 - Buying nearly any comic book says the reader is ok with all that. Now if this is all about copyrights, and the creators getting continued compensation. I could understand it more. But I'd add boycotting a comic won't do anything. If people really want to do something about this, they need to form a group (Comic book legal defense fund would be a good start), raises money, hire lawyers, create some laws to outlaw this type of behavior, and work on getting congress to pass it
July 4, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST
That's the only way to 'fix' this.
July 4, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST
You bet your ass there's an ethical breach. In fact, the ethical breach is based entirely on the fact that this DOESN'T breach copyright.
July 4, 2012, 8:29 p.m. CST
Period. <p> Ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, when all there is to do is read his stories and toss off random vagaries about how he was a "grumpy old man", nearly everything the guy touched will be considered classic, top of form works of art.
July 4, 2012, 8:31 p.m. CST
Betcha it's TOTALLY different than the one posted here.
July 4, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST
Is that really something you believe? Writing a comic book is no different than any other form or writing. They only difference is that the really good comic book writers also script their books and direct their artists as well.
July 4, 2012, 8:33 p.m. CST
The entire Alan Moore debate doesn't make sense anymore cause people aren't looking at it objectively anymore...
by Greg Nielsen
Alan Moore is not the sole creator of Watchmen. Comics are a lot like movies. Lots of people work on them and usually one or 2 people take all the credit whether they deserve to or not. In the case of Alan Moore he's creative but he's very dependent on his artist. Dave Gibbons picks up where Alan Moore falls down with his words, which the proof is the Under the Hood prose sections that drag a bit (at least for me). Swamp Thing is another example of this as it's amazing for the John Totlebeen drawings. Actually the man has worked with a who's who all the way to current day with the extremely talented Kevin O'Neill. Len Wein also deserves a lot of credit as editor because that guy basically lets him know if he needs to quit working on it. He may have just rubber stamped everything that came across his desk but even then it would've gone through Gibbons first who would translate Moore's work into pictures Oh and the colorist and the letter. They also deserve a ton of credit. I don't know the letter but I think John Higgins is the colorist and he's actually drawing the pirate section of the comic. What I'm trying to say is that at least 3 of the 5 major players in the creation of Watchmen are working on this. Honestly it makes me feel a little better about it. I do understand the Moore side. There's not really a need for Before Watchmen but there was never a need for Watchmen in the first place and honestly so far I've seen nothing that has changed my opinion of Watchmen. Moore isn't that old. He's probably got 20 more years to make fish porn and some really good stuff too like League Century and maybe something new that we haven't seen yet. I don't think that buying Before Watchmen or not buying Before Watchmen will affect DC or it's policy towards creators. That will only be affected by the creators themselves and most of them benefit from a system that excludes people and affords them a certain amount of job security. I mean even Micah Wright is coming back and he lied about being an army ranger but his foot was already in the door. It's how Chuck Austen was able to hold on for so very long or how Scott Lobdell sticks around too. I guess the best thing to do is just buy what you like and realize life will be what it will be. Sorry for the long rant...I feel like a dumb parent
July 4, 2012, 8:36 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
I was ready to dump it after 1969 but thought maybe it'll have a good conclusion. It was pretty out there. I enjoyed it. I doubt the people who made those things are happy. But I also realize they'll probably be adults and not sue him. Although I guess he's protected under satire right? Also, Kevin O'Neill needs to work more often. I wish there was the chance him and Pat Mills would get together and make a new Nemesis story.
July 4, 2012, 9 p.m. CST
...have both explained, quite clearly, how much work Alan Moore does for his books. They're drawing what he wants to be seen on the page. Sometimes down to the most finite of details. Not only that, but he does vast amounts of research to write these stories. It's not just, "hey, I'll use that one because it's in the public domain". I just don't understand why people have turned on guy so harshly.
July 4, 2012, 9:08 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
I think people have a better idea of how comics are made. It's not just him and as time goes on the myth that he's the monolith creating all this is just not maintainable. At the same time, I'm sure Alan gives very specific details but it still goes through Gibbons and O'Neill. They color it through their own skills and creativity. Kevin O'Neill Watchmen would've been a completely different animal from Gibbon's. I think Alan has a lot of input into his comics but in the end he's just one part. He might be the creative lead but other peoples' finger prints are on it. I know he used to be a cartoonist. It'd be interesting to see him write and draw a comic himself.
July 4, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
He tends to really bad mouth his fans and comics in particular. Calling them childish and in a lot of ways saying superheroes are nothing but United States jingoism, which there's a bit of truth there but ultimately I don't think the U.S. in anyway owns a concept like that. I know he has his reasons and some of them are sound. I also don't think we should be politically correct all the time. But he's pretty undiplomatic about it. Also...the fish porn and Lost Girls...hard to deal with on a lot of levels.
July 4, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST
I'm not buying into the revisionist history. <p> He has a right to his opinions, the same as all of us. <p> I've never read superhero books because they've been repeating themselves for the last 30 years, at least. <p> The work he gets hated for is no different than the work being done by thousands of other artists, other than the fact that his is better. Better thought out, constructed and written. <p> I fuckin' love the fish porn story. That's one of the few comic books that has ever truly freaked me out. And the end of the book has a GREAT payoff. <p> If Alan Moore is scripting his own books after he's written the story, as well as giving his artists direct instructions about what he wants from panel to panel, he is doing a majority of the creative work. If you think otherwise you don't really know how comic books are created. <p> I've seen a lot of the stuff Moore drew - it looks like it's from the time when it was done. I'm not sure he could pull it off these days. <p> Look at this bibliography and then tell me that all Alan Moore is about is complaining about Watchmen, fish porn and Lost Girls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Moore_bibliography
July 4, 2012, 9:48 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
I even understand that he does do a lot of creative work. But when someone else draws it for you it changes the flavor. I can't help the fact that it's true. Just like how Jeff Lemire drawn Sweeth Tooth is very different from Animal Man. When someone else draws it adds something else to it. He does get unfairly hated on too. But everyone successful does. Just like there are people that defend him to the point where logic is long gone. Geoff Johns is a good case of that as both Aquaman and Green Lantern are as bad as Justice League. Personally, I prefer Mark Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme. It was made before Watchmen and covers similar themes but it's way more positive and humanistic. Watchmen feels like it becomes nothing but nihilistic ends justify the means. I know that's only an aspect and I know there are others but that's the main one screaming on the surface of that book. I guess ultimately too that's what it boils down too. Alan is creative but he takes too much credit for what he does. Other people have done it before too. Also, there is an unfortunate cult of personality around him. Also as far as Neonomicon, I think it's an issue of showing too much and Jacen Burrows not being a particularly good artist. It's the ultimate in simply drawing the words from a page. There is absolutely no spark and the story itself is not particularly interesting or for that matter even a new view on Lovecraft. The sex in his books has been the subject of almost everything done on his work since the 60s. League Century is a vast improvement if only cause it's creative with the idea of mass media being out of control...I'm not sure why a man who complains about creative rights so much seems to be unhappy about the lack of open source content but who can fathom that man...and also cause I like that it covers well 100 years and it feels like real forward progression.
July 4, 2012, 9:50 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
1. Miracleman not Watchmen 2. Bringing pulp back with neo-pulp line ABC comics 3. Saying no to the Big 2 before everyone else which is going to be his biggest legacy Other people are starting to do it but he was sorta the first or at least one of the first. Without Alan Moore there would be no Image comics or the sudden uprising in Creator rights
July 4, 2012, 10:05 p.m. CST
Dave Sim and Wendy and Richard Pini would strongly disagree with you.
July 4, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
But Alan Moore had the force of personality too make it popular. Just like how Watchmen and Miracleman pushed deconstructionism even though it had been done before. He has his faults but he has his moments too. Plus sadly most kids aren't going to know Dave Sim and the Pinis. Admittedly, I knew Sim but not the Pinis but I'm also a pretty new reader what with only having a few years under my belt. Which...weirdly Alan Moore is sorta mainstream when I think about it.
July 5, 2012, 1:22 a.m. CST
July 5, 2012, 2:22 a.m. CST
by the artist formerly known as messi
As a modern interpretation of Superman, Smallville was better, Earth 1 was just ridiculous and with new 52 it's now redundant. I like definitive stories, like Batman Begins, can you improve on that origin? No. So Earth 1 seems pointless but I like Frank's art.
July 5, 2012, 6:15 a.m. CST
I love Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme and always felt it got overlooked against the more radical DKR and Watchmen which all came out around the same time. I thought the genius of it was that it had superheroes acting in ways superheroes never did before, but they were still recognizably superheroes in a superhero universe. My youngest recently pulled this series from my longbox and really enjoyed it, so it holds up pretty well too. And two, I also liked AM's Miracleman more than Watchmen. It was much more out there but also, more of a true superhero story. Gaiman took it over and while I didn't like his version quite as much, he still did a good job. I keep wishing now that Marvel owns the rights, they'd hire him to finish his arc.
July 5, 2012, 6:17 a.m. CST
I don't know if I'd go quite as far but there wasn't anything special or particularly reimagined about it, just a few new touches. Busiek's Superman: Secret Identity is vastly better imagining of Superman in the real world.
July 5, 2012, 6:31 a.m. CST
That was an interesting comment. I know work for hire gets a lot of complaints from creators, but lets face it without it, most of them would never get hired. I mean, how many of them create a Superman? The evil big two have to make a lot of money losers to find that one big hit. I think the law of unintended consequences means that banning work for hire would result in companies only hiring the biggest names since they'd have to be sure of making their money on the upfront since there'd be no more legacy money to carry all the rest. It'd become like the movies where the whole focus is on big hits.
July 5, 2012, 8:54 a.m. CST
What alternate reality are you from?
July 5, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST
......i am a big Alan Moore fan. From early Swamp Thing, to Watchmen, to Big Numbers, and all the LoEG books. The guy has done some of the best stuff in comics, and therefor has more than earned the right to have his opinions and his grumpy old man moments. <p> But here is what i can't bring myself to do. i can't say it's ok for Moore to write a book that takes another writers characters (harry potter being a prime example of a character NOT in the public domain) and turn him into the anti-christ for the purpose of telling a story and then turn around and say DC can NEVER publish another book that has Night Owl in it. <p> to me it's a huge double standard and i don't buy it no matter how much circular reasoning you want to do to defend Moore and at the same time crucify DC comics. i'm sorry, i can't do it. <P> and i know, i know Moore is only using other peoples characters to make a grand, sweeping statement about the current state of modern fiction and making.....what was it.....oh, yeah quote; *a blistering satirical criticism of the advent of literature as franchising; * un-quote. <P> and that's all fine and good, like i said Alan Moore has earned the right to do and say whatever he wants when it comes to comics. but that means everyone else should get the same right. so if DC want to do Before Watchmen comics until the end of time how is that any different? <p> to me, it's just two sides of the same coin. the only difference i can see is that, Moore is pimping out a character he didn't create to tell a story, and DC is pimping out an existing franchise it legally owns to make a profit. regardless of the motives and intent.... a pimp, is a pimp, is a pimp, in my mind at least. i personally have a problem saying one person is allowed to play in the sandbox and yet other people can't play in the same sand box. <p> and i'm not suggesting people don't have the right to boycott Before watchmen, or whatever. i'm just saying , for me personally, i can't give Moore a pass for telling stories with characters he didn't create and then turn around and out of the other side of my face condemn DC for doing, what i see, as basically the same thing. i just can't do it. sorry. <p> i'm just trying to get my point of view across, it's not that i suddenly hate Alan Moore, or am part of some huge horrible backlash against him and his work. i just accept the fact that the world we live in is imperfect and the best we can do is to at least try to make the playing field as level as possible for everyone. like i said, i just feel that either everyone should get to play in the same sand box, or NO ONE should get to play in the sand box. making allowances for some but not others is a slippery slope that i do not personally care to climb.
July 5, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST
To say his work rests entirely on the creations of others is to ignore From Hell, Snakes And Ladders, Voice In The Fire, A Small Killing, V For Vendetta, The Birth Caul, Big Numbers, and probably a lot of other stuff I can't remember off the top of my head. The Watchmen prequels are totally unnecessary. DC may have the legal right to do it, but that doesn't mean they should. Moore doesn't have a leg to stand on in League 2009. I liked the first half, but it completely fell apart with the introduction of Harry Potter which totally fucked up the world Moore gave us previously by removing the conceit that the stories we know actually happened. A modernized version of the Wold-Newton concept is a fun idea, cynical literary criticism by someone who's hardly a stranger to literary cynicism is not.
July 5, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST
You know, when someone shits on the current culture and praises the one from decades ago. I kind of got that vibe from 2009. Don't get me wrong, I actually did like the book but with some reservations. I was most annoyed with what he did to Mina. In the first two trades I thought she was a really strong female character. She had a low tolerance for bullshit. But from 1969 on up she's either victimized or she acts like a flake. That whole acid trip was idiotic. Who just takes a pill that is given to them? During the swinging 60's of all times where that sort of thing was happening left and right.
July 5, 2012, 12:13 p.m. CST
Just like with a movie or tv show, actors and writers, and music composers get paid over and over again when they work is reused or redistributed. So if a company could no longer own the character or concept, they should still be able to collect a money based on the reusing of the character they originally sponsored (in a reverseal of the norm). Then of course their are creators who own the company- Walt Disney, Todd McFarlane. Curiosu how that would play out. So I'm sure it's not cut and dry, but the Work for Hire clause is the source of all the trouble. And it needs to be addressed to prevent future creators for getting screwed.
July 5, 2012, 12:45 p.m. CST
I have no opinion either way on the Watchmen debate, or Alan Moore. So I've been watching this unfold with 'fresh eyes'. He stated in an interview that nothing original or worthwhile has come out in all of comic-dom for the last twenty years. Except his own work, of course. I found that very revealing about him as a person, as well as those who echo him, and profoundly, broadly insulting to many, many people. He also stated that prefers to 'criticize from a position of ignorance'. When you can leave a British interviewer nearly speechless, that's quite an accomplishment.
July 5, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST
now thats some funny shit. pretty much sums up the whole "controversy" over Before Watchmen imo. <p> also, speaking of double standards, am i the only one who has seen this MARVEL NOW stuff? apparently marvel is doing their own non-re-boot/ re-boot thing. where does the house of ideas get these great ideas anyway? but needless to say it seems everyone is getting spiffy new costumes and the Hulk is gonna have on armor of some sort. COMMENCE FAN BOY BITCHING IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... <P> oh wait, none of the new costumes seem to have a v- neck collar, so i'm sure THIS non-reboot / re-boot will be hailed as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
July 5, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST
Hickman is going to be doing a twice monthly Avengers and taking over New Avengers. Apparently he already has 62 issues planned. If it's anything like his Fantastic Four and Ultimates run... Yeah, I'm very excited. Bendis is doing a new X book which has the original 5 coming forward in time and seeing our world as it is now. Could be ok, we'll see. Kelly Sue McConnick is launching the new Captain Marvel. I love the fact that it's Carol Danvers AND she gets to wear pants. Also, there's apparently going to be an X-men/Avengers team called Uncanny X-men or something. Rick Remender is writing which isn't that hot of news for me, but John Cassidy is drawing, so I'm going to buy. So, no, it doesn't sound like a reboot as all this stuff is coming out of events in AvX, but there is a ton of creator shifts and new books, so... could be interesting, a little fresh at least.
July 5, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST
Going to cut and paste from an email I write a reader about this, I think it will address most of the direct comments to me on the TBs. Hey, Yeah, I seem to have stirred up quite a debate with this one. And it's all good. I've actually answered back to a few emails on a similar theme since yesterday, and we've all ended up on wonderful terms of civility. Plain and simple I like to turn people on to good comics. It's an evil and cruel world out there we all need to find solace wherever we can. I can't think of a comic creator prior to the 1990's who hasn't been run through the ringer. From Superman to Ghost Rider, creators have been collectively fucked over year after year. Now I think this hits home because Watchmen was so so loved (unlike Ghost Rider, a character I could gladly see erased from existence). But why do we still read every other title since the original creator's are not even a whisper within the book? I see this with WATCHMEN. Just as you wish me well to read the books, I don't deny anyone their personal moral high grounds. I have mine. Watchmen just doesn't make it there. Another reader was less upset about the treatment of Moore and more the fact that WATCHMEN should never be touched again. Again, I respect this I simply don't agree in this case. Now, if anyone ever comes up to me and says GODFATHER III completed the vision, I will pummel their face until their DNA graft to mine through my knuckles. Yes, I think the people that are siding with Moore are missing out on good comics, but I in now way hate or condemn these individuals. They're just missing out on some good reads is all. And this is really just one @$$holes opinion. We have much dissent within the clubhouse over these books. And as with all friendships whether IRL or between reader and reviewer, we will disagree from time-to-time. It doesn't mean we still don't see eye-to-eye the other 99% of the time. Thank you for listening to the podcast and reading the reviews. I will piss you off from time to time. You will want to tell me you wish my Mother was killed 9 months and a day prior to my birth. At the end of the day though, we tussle because we love comics. That's all that matters. Best (Sincerely) Rob (OD)
July 5, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST
July 5, 2012, 8:17 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
Mostly cause I'm not reading anything avengers right now... However I'm hoping when the dust settles Kieron Gillen will still have a home somewhere. He's too good to lose. I also hope his Thor work will still be there along with Fraction's and Fraction's Defenders As long as that happens I'm peachy
July 5, 2012, 8:19 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
I also like underwear on the outside of the pants too. I don't understand why every new redesign is a leather or latex jump suit, which might actually be even more weirdly sexual than the silliness of fighting crime in a swimsuit. However, she does have a good jump suit and I like the mask and when Jamie McKelvie who designed it draws it looks particularly good. But swimsuits and underwear on the outside of the pants will always be where my heart lies.
July 5, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
These clowns have had it too good for too long, I say! They should have to do their typing and cartooning in cubicles and not be able to take personal phone calls. And they should have to join the Koffee Klub and pitch in big bucks for the @$$hole boss' present on Boss Day. No hanging up pictures or posters in the cubicles. I'm still working out the dress code but let me say right now that open toed shoes will not be stood for and that if a Creator wears capri pants, except on casual Fridays, they must also bring a matching jacket and hang in on the back of their chairs. If they do not have a matching jacket, they will be sent home without pay to change or retrieve said matching jacket. Plus, if you use your sick days, you go on the list, pal!
July 5, 2012, 9:12 p.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
...Aguave Man? Battle o' the century, bay-bee!
July 5, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST
by Buzz Maverik
I hired him to play my kid's birthday party last summer. When he pulled that rabbit out of his ass, we all nearly shit our 501s, I'll tell ya.
July 5, 2012, 9:23 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
It's called having a corporate job, which working for DC and Marvel is too. I had a friend who wrote a great program that was being used globally at the company I was working at. He never got paid a single dime for it. It's the basis of the new program that they use globally and they don't even give him royalties for it. It's cause when you work for a company they own what you make using their stuff. He has no hard feelings. He simply took his stuff to another company where he makes a lot more money now and everyone seems a lot nicer. I'm still stuck at the company and yeah it sucks. But eventually stuff could get better. I could get a new job. Or we could all just blow up. And yeah I do end up on a list when I use my sick days and they give me hell and a half for even asking for time off when I work every holiday practically
July 5, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST
I don't care if anybody reads Before Watchmen or not. Nor do I care about Alan Moore having his panties in a bunch about DC using the characters. I also have no issues with people having an informed, intelligent, rational opinion about THE WORK that Alan Moore is releasing. All of that is great. <p> The ONLY real point I'm trying to get across is that Moore hasn't suddenly become a hack because he contradicts himself, uses public domain characters or touches on extremely adult themes in his books (sometimes repetitively). <p> The sum total of his books - past and present, all considered together as a body of work - still make him one of the greatest comic book writers/creators in the history of the medium. Name some creators others who have done as many groundbreaking, original, interesting and just plain brilliant books as Moore. The list is VERY short. <p> Step away from the "but he uses public domain characters", "but he's giving DC shit for doing the same thing", "but there's a breach of blah blah blah", and even something like "but Harry Potter isn't in the public domain", and try to actually judge the books he's doing on their qualitative merits. Pretend somebody else created and wrote these stories. What would you think of them if a brand new writer you had never heard of was releasing his recent work? <p> IMO, he has never stopped doing great work. If you actually take the time to read his work with an open mind and still feel otherwise, I respect that opinion. But I don't respect this constant hyperbolic verbal diarrhea about all the reasons he's no longer good that have NOTHING to do with the work itself. <p> That's what I've been trying to say.
July 5, 2012, 11 p.m. CST
by Greg Nielsen
Millar, Bendis, or really even Leifeld, they reach a certain level of popularity. It increases the level of scrutiny on them Millar and Bendis have both done very good work in the past. Like Alias or the Ultimates. Leifeld is not what I consider good but he's certainly influential and people seem to like his ideas when they forget he had a part in them, case in point X-Force. The internet too. I think the scary thing is that someone would read David Brothers Avengers article and say yeah I'll do what you said. I mean that's cool on some levels if it genuinely changed your mind but there is a lemming mentality to a lot of the stuff on the internet. If there wasn't there'd be no memes. Then again since he didn't stop the Avengers money machine I'm kinda eating my words but still there is a loud minority factor at work. Which again. People outside of comics know who Alan Moore is and Neil Gaiman is. They'll make their money. I think in 10 years time. We'll probably all have a good laugh at all of this and wonder what the hell we were thinking or complete forget about it and be at different points in our lives and our kids or someone else's kids will be brats ragging about how Hickman or someone else went to hell. (for the record I love Hickman)
July 6, 2012, 9 a.m. CST
......to hear you are looking forward to the Marvel Now not-a-reboot. <p> But seriously, not one snarky comment from anyone about Cyclops' new costume? Really?
July 6, 2012, 9:17 a.m. CST
why the Hulk has metal forearm bands. Is he a waiter and they'll keep him from scalding himself when he's delivering a hot bowl of grits? He's the Hulk, He's fairly invulnerable. Why does he have randomly placed 90's metal bands? All he needs now are some pouches.
July 6, 2012, 9:22 a.m. CST
And is the only difference for Wolvy's costume the diamonds on his boots and the ribbing for her pleasure on the gloves and boots?
July 6, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST
.....you have restored my faith in geekdom, kind sir. <p> and i apologise in advance for this next comment, but i just gotta say it. i know this girl in Vegas and she has a strap-on that looks just like Scotty Summers new duds. <P> just like it. it's uncanny.
July 6, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST
I'm not sure what I did to restore your faith, but in the name of our Lord i AM taking donations. Consider yourself HEALED my son.
July 6, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST
Really? I'm going to assume that no one wants to know...
July 7, 2012, 12:27 a.m. CST
So original and innovative.
July 14, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST
One part of the Batman origin has never been satisfyingly done in comic book form before, and thats his world travels and training. Why has nobody done a 12 issue maxi series just about that??? That would be so cool, if done right. Really delve into Bruce
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