June 30, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
June 30, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
June 30, 2012, 6:47 p.m. CST
June 30, 2012, 6:57 p.m. CST
After you play out this "trilogy" (ugh) where else can you go? Another reboot with Peter Parker in high school? While I don't put it past them to do so, other than risking a Miles Morales trilogy with Parker dead, Spidey's got to be folded back into Marvel, and Sony will reap huge benefits. And let's face it, if we see Samuel Jackson pop up anywhere in the next 2 Spidey movies, I think we're all on board.
June 30, 2012, 6:59 p.m. CST
by Jake Pantlin
That would be genius! At least establish that the characters appear in the same universe.
June 30, 2012, 7 p.m. CST
Too many sock puppets here to take it too seriously anymore. Talkback I mean. Sometimes it's way too obvious.
June 30, 2012, 7 p.m. CST
by Bouncy X
i swear i remember reading a couple years ago that he left the company. not sure if he quit or was fired but he wasnt involved anymore. was that some sorta rumor or did he just change positions at the company or something?
June 30, 2012, 7:09 p.m. CST
"Arad was left with an interesting dilemma. He had to essentially use it or loose it with the Spider-Man name" Wasn't that SONY'S dilemma? Arad would be getting that pimp cash whether it was a Sony film or a Disney film, no?
June 30, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST
its interesting that in-house, at marvel/disney, feige is in essence, the show runner...but for all projects that are owned by outside studios, arad is this is a bit confusing to me, as arad has failed, more than he has succeeded. amazed that the other studios dont ask for someone else bit curious why capone didnt ask arad any questions regarding the use of the lizard, as both he and sony refused to allow raimi this villain...despite the 3 picture setup and listening to them both describe the changes made in parker's persona, shows me they are both out of touch. geeks rule the world...they dont rule hs they dont get the girl in 45 minutes parker is not a cool loner. had he been written that way, there would be no 50 year run no followup question on why the search for peter's parents went nowhere....cuz test audiences hated it...just like readers did dear god, let them hire orci, kurtzman and lindelof to write 2 and kill this abomination off once and for all...amen
June 30, 2012, 7:24 p.m. CST
look at the man's track record he did nothing to protect the product, just took a paycheck he currently heads his own production company, but still does marvel related movies for other studios. i take it that he has a piece of spidey for the life of me, i cant figure out how a guy who ran a toy company, got into movies but hey...i cant figure out how this israeli got into the toy biz in the first place
June 30, 2012, 7:49 p.m. CST
June 30, 2012, 7:54 p.m. CST
June 30, 2012, 8 p.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
Hes always eating lazannia and getting so fat.
June 30, 2012, 8:04 p.m. CST
June 30, 2012, 8:22 p.m. CST
June 30, 2012, 8:32 p.m. CST
June 30, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST
We still have Django Unchained to look forward to.
June 30, 2012, 9:44 p.m. CST
Yeah, I'll be one checking this out. As most likely many others.
June 30, 2012, 11 p.m. CST
Please don't ever change. You crack me up, you fucking wierdo. ajit_maholtra, what do you think about Garfields sidekick Odie?
June 30, 2012, 11:02 p.m. CST
Do not need the Origin Story. Proves that suits, greenlit this fucking film. Sad, really.
"We dread the damn thing! No, you know what? We call it “The Haters,” but we read it religiously. People early in the morning, hit their computer to see what life will look like. So you start your day “What are they saying?”" Well this sure sounds like something a person who uses a computer would say.
June 30, 2012, 11:35 p.m. CST
Mind if I give them a kiss? Maybe polish them a little bit? I realize these are tough questions, but as a shill, they are the type of questions that I'm allowed to ask. Do either of you guys need a soda?
July 1, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST
Spider-Man 3 was my own personal 9/11. Truly a travesty that I'm still pretty sure the country hasn't fully recovered from. A little piece of me died on that opening day. And yes, it seems completely justifiable to compare that to the other non-Spider-Man 3-related 9/11 that happened in New York. Whatever, that YouTube video is like 15 minutes long while Spider-Man 3 is at least over a whole hour long. YOU CAN'T UNDO SOMETHING LIKE THAT! I don't think things will ever be the same.. Actually, I'll catch it on Netflix or borrow the dvd from somebody later this year when I catch a cold and have an afternoon to kill. I'll pay to see a Spider-Man movie when Marvel gets the rights back.
July 1, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST
If these suits only knew what little power there was, they probably wouldn't give you guys the time of day. Yet, while Capone is busy giving hand jobs to Arad and Tolmach, the shining review makes a lot more sense.
July 1, 2012, 12:37 a.m. CST
It would have been better if the complete piece of you, all 100%, died on that opening day of Spiderman 3, or better yet if---years earlier---your father's sperm had just climbed out of the test tube in disgust without fertilizing your mother's egg. "...it seems completely justifiable to compare that to the other non-Spiderman 3-related 9/11 that happened in New York..." Seriously consider peaceful voluntary sterilization of yourself, and you convincing your family to do the same, as your gift to the world.
July 1, 2012, 1:12 a.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
Im good, Im at home drinking wine and watching tv. So many good things are on tv now. Im watching Conan the Destroyer and its the part where that weird bearded pedophile kidnaps the princess and then he turns into a lizard man and Conan kills him by smashing the mirrors, reminds me of The Who.
July 1, 2012, 1:13 a.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
Are you still having sex with lady who has tattoo above her bum?
July 1, 2012, 1:25 a.m. CST
I was very interested in all of it, but then it abruptly ends. Oh well. Checking this out next weekend. Really looking forward to it. Looks like the Spiderman we've been waiting for.
July 1, 2012, 1:42 a.m. CST
Yes sir, I am.
July 1, 2012, 1:52 a.m. CST
As him about THAT, huh, Capone. Avi acts as though he is Spider-Man's savior. He's just an old man clinging to anything popular. And right now it's Spider-Man.
July 1, 2012, 2:03 a.m. CST
Soooo with 50 years of history and stories to draw from...you canned him and told the origin again *slow clap*
July 1, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST
Urgh. <p> 'It’s a more empowered outsider and it’s a kid who leans into injustice even if the result is the same, that he’s going to get put down by the bully, he's not going to let it happen and he’s going to put himself in harm’s way in order to avoid it, and that consciousness is something…' <p> Was he high during this interview?
July 1, 2012, 2:58 a.m. CST
How could this happen? I was so careful. I picked the wrong play, the wrong director, the wrong cast. Where did I go right?
July 1, 2012, 3:35 a.m. CST
July 1, 2012, 4:29 a.m. CST
Really, was *that* how it happened?! Guess all the rumors about Raimi's plans for a fourth film with the Vulture etc. we're just fabrications. Thanks for setting the record straight, guys...!
July 1, 2012, 4:59 a.m. CST
give spider-man and x-men back to marvel and fuck off. thanks.
July 1, 2012, 5:47 a.m. CST
July 1, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST
Fuck you scumbag. You aren't getting a penny from me you worthless money grubbing prick. Kill yourself. You are everything evil about the world.
July 1, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST
July 1, 2012, 7:11 a.m. CST
Yes that's why The Avengers and Avatar are two of the highest grossing movies of all time.
July 1, 2012, 7:18 a.m. CST
by Talkbacker with no name
He's produced 3 out of 4 good spider-man flicks. Had a hand in getting Blade 1/2 on to the screen (who thought those would be decent movies!?), X-Men 1/2, and got Hulk on to big screen. Credit where it's due! Despite who you think he is or what you think he has done to you, he loves these characters and is an all round pretty decent guy. Amazing Spider-Man was getting made with or without him. You should be happy he had a hand in it. It could have turned out a lot fucking worse, believe me. But telling him to kill himself? You fucking moron.
July 1, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST
I mean, who DOESN'T enjoy a loudmouth blowhard that tells people to kill themselves over a movie they have yet to even see from behind the anonymity of their computer. Right on, man! You are an A1, quality individual!
July 1, 2012, 7:51 a.m. CST
How do you explain the success of Avengers?
July 1, 2012, 8:18 a.m. CST
Seriously ... why? Why in the HELL do you feel compelled to give Spider-man YELLOW EYES? That's all I need to see, because as trivial as the point may sound, it's a microcosm of how these imbeciles view the character to begin with ... absolutely no respect. Fuck 'em both. Yellow eyes on Spider-man. Absolutely mind-boggling.
July 1, 2012, 8:31 a.m. CST
that he gives a shit about anything but money
July 1, 2012, 8:35 a.m. CST
by Wesley Snipes
... That the suits utterly control and shape the script (not the creative team) and they're proud of it.
July 1, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST
for hating soul-less corporate demons who take a giant shit on our culture.....
July 1, 2012, 8:55 a.m. CST
I give it 3 years tops, before they announce it.
July 1, 2012, 9:01 a.m. CST
July 1, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST
Amazing Spider Man will pull in fans of Raimis film and a new generation, and this will make money. Lets face it. It will give Studios the excuse now, to reboot any franchise from the last 10 years. Imagine if the suits owned Star Wars. What George Lucas has done would pale in comparison to the corporate machine that is Hollywood. We'd have more than one Holiday Special, that's for sure.
July 1, 2012, 9:09 a.m. CST
...that it has to "reach out" to a movie geek to ask if 'The Amazing Spider-Man' is a good title for a movie based on a comic-book called 'The Amazing Spider-Man'. Did Arad also phone Harry up in 2004 and ask, "What do you think of the name 'Spider-Man 2' for the sequel?", resulting in an enthusiastic "Awesome!" from Harry?
July 1, 2012, 9:27 a.m. CST
Gee, thanks for giving this reboot your endorsement, Fake Sam Raimi Comment From The Lips Of Avi Arad! I'm sure that'll sway any doubtful Sam Raimi fans into seeing the movie, knowing that your Fake Comment approves of it!
July 1, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST
by Melanie Griffiths Sour Patch
...and that includes Harry. He goes from Harry saying the film is awesome to telling Webb "I hear you nail it". Why would Harry say "I hear" if he had seen it? Congrats on lowering the bar yet again fellas! I'm gonna go get my giant spoon from some more marketing pablum! Yum!
July 1, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST
by Calibos's Ginger JewFro
I can honestly say I havent thought about it once since then. It left no impression on me at all. The best part of the movie is the origin stuff in the first half (or 2/3rds really). There is nice character interaction, the leads are cute togther, Martin Sheen is excellent and the discovery of the spidey powers scenes are quite funny. However with the exception of few new twists and bells its exactly the same story we all saw 10 years ago so its all for naught. why did I need to see all this again? When the movie moves away from the blueprint established by the comics lore and Raimi it really starts to fall apart in big way. I mean serious plot holes and lapses in narrative logic. But the main thing is the lack of a sense of excitment. The action scenes are fine, but I just didnt care. In trying to set a tone for this new series that is less OTT and broad as Raimi's movies they have drained away most of the fun.
July 1, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST
by u.k. star
Also I'm thankful to Arid because his strategy is was lead the "market" to the position where Marvel could borrow money to make their own movies. The MCU, The Avengers, most (arguably all) of the decent super hero movies of the past 12 - 14 years owe a lot to Arad pushing the studios to use the movie rights they were sitting on. Blade -to- X-Men - Spider-Man, they're all connected. Having said that, he's the one a lot of us see as mostly responsible for "forcing" Rami to shoehorn Venom, badly, into Spider-Man 3. Most of what I read i that interview just seems like complete bullshit. Sure I wasn't there, but I don't remember reading anything that seems remotely like his version of events, certainly the Rami was done with telling Spider-Man stories thing. (All the more with the amount of set up Rami had done (not least with the Lizard) that he apparently wasn't taking anywhere? Oh and I think the mixing of the MCU with Non MCU studio films, which I know Marvel were willing to do with putting the Oscorp building in The Avengers is a risky move. They already have enough issues with people mistaking shit like Ghost Rider for their product. They have very carefully built up a strong brand. Do they really want to risk that getting s=ruined by another studio.
July 1, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST
by Eric Shea
I want to see a Magnus: Robot Fighter movie! Who's with me?
July 1, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST
July 1, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST
Don't be such a thick, small minded ass.
July 1, 2012, 10:11 a.m. CST
July 1, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST
is something i'm fine with. the nolan films are great but if we're looking at doing the dc universe then the characters need to be presented more like the marvel cinematic universe - something like the batman animated series is what most people are hoping to see on screen, i think. re-do green lantern and superman (snyder's will be shit you know it) in the new style and finally do wonder woman, flash and aquaman etc... still havent seen this 25 minute segment, i'm trying to find it now.
July 1, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST
I haven't seen 500 Days of Summer or new Spidey so I can't comment on Marc Webb's direction. It's not an either/or thing for all of us, you know.
July 1, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST
i'll wait for a better one though, of course.
July 1, 2012, 10:19 a.m. CST
Mission accomplished. Someone paid attention to you. Won't make that mistake again.
July 1, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST
without spidey thanks for player...come back next week nolan is a hack
July 1, 2012, 11:56 a.m. CST
because he is just so clueless. BUT when you combine his ignorance with the fact that he literally thinks he is a genius and the absolute go to authority on everything related to Marvel Comics simply based on some confusing business bullshit you have to realize he is just an asshole. A rich fucking asshole, but an asshole. From "Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning" to dancin' Spidey to motherfucking scenery chewing Nicolas Cage, every single shitty thing about otherwise good Marvel movies can be traced back to Arad. Oh, and he calls Harry for advice. That should speak for itself. Sheesh. Douchebag.
July 1, 2012, 11:56 a.m. CST
Otherwise they wouldn't screw around with stuff that should be preserved as canon. Nobody cares about film geeks and fanboys. We are a minority. Avi and shitbag producers like him are like Sandusky...they only care about little boys because they are the ones that buy the toys and happy meals.
July 1, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN good Marvel movies... Anything Arad stuck his grubby fingers into HE FUCKED UP. Arad, YOU SUCK! FUCK OFF! Gee, I hope he reads this...
July 1, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST
1) Avi Arad is in COMPLETE revenge mode. Maybe not revenge, per se, but the thing that goes unmentioned here is the fact that Arad (and by extension, his son) were left on the outside looking in after Marvel Studios was created. Arad has no pull within Feige's world, and I think its for the better. 2) What also goes unsaid is that the ONLY reason that Amazing Spider-Man was made was to keep the property at Sony. Laura Ziskin was not happy with Malkovitch as Vulture and Baker as Lizard being the primary villains. So, she conspired with Avi to create a new script as a contingency that they could not get Raimi to see things their way again (remember, it was Avi who FORCED Raimi to use Venom, a character he openly admitted to not understanding at all. The end result was sort of a bit of revenge by Raimi who made the film as a fuck you, which in a bit of calculated irony, still made a TON of money) 3) I do believe that Raimi had a trilogy in mind, but that trilogy was robbed from him, which is why he wanted to make Spider-Man 4, a film he felt would actually allow him to make the movie he wanted to make with the Vulture AND the Lizard. There was no script problems, there was only stonewalling, because Ziskin et al couldn't envision the Vulture as a viable character, and Avi couldn't envision the Vulture selling toys. I'm not going to venture a guess as to whether or not this film will succeed or fail. Reports out this morning state that ASM is opening stronger overseas than even The Avengers. Here, it may be a different story, as the film only has about two-three weeks before The Dark Knight Rises, and the buzz overall is negative at best, so it could go either way. Some people say this is a solid film, others miss Raimi. Others like to manufacture a hatred for the original Spider-Man trilogy that is just unfounded save for the third film, which was a forced exercise at best. I only hope this film fails so that Sony has to reconsider its strategy by doing a) Returning the series to Raimi, or b) negotiating a deal with Disney that will see the property return to Marvel Studios, with a hefty financial caveat that will lead to the sort of profit sharing that will serve as a salve that helps the parent company justify the loss.
July 1, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST
July 1, 2012, 12:33 p.m. CST
Road to Perdition Ghost World A History of Violence The Crow (going back 18 years ago) V for Vendetta All great comic book movies. Maybe you didn't see any of those. You should.
July 1, 2012, 12:42 p.m. CST
I liked Raimi's trilogy and I thought Maguires goofy charm suited the world they created. I agree with the concept someone hinted here that overall nowadays in an attempt to be 'modern' and broad many properties just come across as bland. Sure Raimi's films had a few problems (3 certainly), but all the people triumphing this new reboot cannot seem to do this on its own merits and just have to piss on Raimis to try and solidify their opinion. <p> Completely unrelated - I have a 3 and half year old daughter. She LOVES the old series of the Thundercats I introduced her to following my childhood 80's memories. I've meant to check it out for a while but we got the first two episodes of the new 'reboot' of it yesterday and gave them a try. They are the epitome of trying to be 'broader' and modern. My daughter said she preferred the old one greatly without any persuading from me. The bombast of the old intro. The simple stories and characterisation and yes, the cheese. <p> It reminded me of this Spidey argument - give me brooding angst vs. goofy cheese, sometimes it's better to take cheese.
July 1, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
Yes it will make some money but not nearly as much as if they actually put the time and effort into making a good movie.
July 1, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
this movie was made by the suits...pretty friggin twisted it does make sense, as arad thinks himself a creative genius
July 1, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST
I am so sick and tired of this guy getting a bum rap from all the Sam Raimi worshippers around here. Here's a hard truth for you to swallow..Sam Raimi NEVER understood the appeal of Spider-man! But from a lot of the interviews Avi has been giving recently, and what I've seen of the new film, it looks like Avi understood the character a hell of a lot more than Raimi ever did. Raimi just got by on it because every comic fan and kid around was desperate for a big budget Spider-man film, and that's the reason those films made money despite the fact they were msicast and full of really painfully embarassing scenes to watch. Want an example?...Here's one which no-one around here has ever been able to satisfactorily explain or refute. And it's in that so called holy grail of the trilogy that every idiot around here holds up as perfect.i.e Spiderman 2. The scene where Peter after he's started to lose his powers..(through a fricken crisis of confidence of all things-sorry Raimi but that's never been the way his powers work..) well during that period of the film, Tobey's Peter witnesses an old man being beaten up and dragged into an alley by a bunch of thugs. His reaction? He sheepishly skulks away. Right, sure, the guy whose Uncle Ben Died from his own inaction isn't gonna even try and stop a repeat of the same scenario! Both the comic book and the animated versions have been in stories where he's lost his powers, and he's still went up against superpowered villians, but here he's not even gonna try and stop a guy from possibly being killed by thugs because he hasn't got his powers. Yeah sure Raimi, because Spiderman's all about his powers..(Sigh!) He would have intervened, maybe he would have gotton beaten up, but he still would have done so. Because he is supposed to be a heroic character, not just a superpowered one. Thus y'know the phrase..Super-HERO! I've heard that there's a scene in this new movie where Peter, before he gets his powers, try to intervene in bullying and gets his ass kicked as a result. To me this is Avi & Co giving a big middle finger to Raimi, and how much he didn't understand the character. And it's flipping long overdue!
July 1, 2012, 1:59 p.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
Hes a good actor but him alone is not enough to make me go see a film. But if they had someone like Sanjay Dutt as the main villain, Id see it no questions asked. Hollywood is picking Bollywood actors, but they are making some of the worst ones famous, like Anil Kapoor. Next thing theyll make Govinda famous. They need a Sanjay Dutt, Aamir Khan, Salman Khan, or Shah Rukh Khan. Then things will really blow up.
July 1, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST
by ajit maholtra
So they would not go see movie like this just to see Irfan Khan. But I agree that producers may be thinking like this when casting just to get more overseas money because people in India watch many more movies than over here.
July 1, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST
July 1, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST
by mr teaspoon
As far as Peter losing his powers psychologically, that's just something you need to accept or not. I have no problem with it. Spider-Man 2, though, is about Peter trying to give up on Spider-Man and live a normal life. The scene with the bully is a harsh reminder that, as a normal guy again, he can't save people. With great power comes great responsibility, and Peter has no power at that point. He never struck me as the type of 98 pound weakling that'd just jump into a brawl.
July 1, 2012, 2:21 p.m. CST
Oh so you're gonna come up with the whole 'plant' response again? Yeah, way to sidestep the issue. I read the character all my life. I knew the character of Peter Parker from his many, many comic book incarnations and what Raimi gave little resemblence at all. Tobey played him as just this pathetic, cowardly, slow witted moron! That is not the character. As for cheap? Didn't Avi push for Venom in Spiderman 3 in place of the Vulture? After they asked the fans at comicon, over which villain to do next, and the audience overwhelmingly responded, Venom? So what does Raimi do? He uses his position to sabotage the film, because he doesn't like any villain that wasn't around for his childhood. Seriously the special effects guys wre interviewed for the DVD release in Empire and they commented on how the experience was the most unprofessional interaction they'd ever had with a director. As he went out of his way to keep cutting out their work on Venom, just because he didn't like the character. How petty and selfish can you get? No wonder the character of Spiderman came across as that, as well, in those 3 movies. It's probably a good reflection of the director!
July 1, 2012, 2:22 p.m. CST
the man just used the same talking point that has been rehashed over and over for the past year raimi grew up on the same comics that i did in 1 and 2, he used story arcs taken from the ditko/romita runs the only issue i had with raimi,is that he gave mj, gwen's personality
July 1, 2012, 2:33 p.m. CST
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July 1, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST
you just amazingly throw out the same talking points a poll taken at the con? you gotta be kidding me ok, reader of everything spidey...how many times has spidey's origin been retconned? thats right...raimi sabotaged 3...we all knew it...so what? venom sux...and i (unlike you, a shill, plant, liar) have been reading spidey, since the 60s however, the best scene in the history of comics, may be when mr fantastic helps spidey to disengage from the symbiote, and he is forced to wear an oversized, old ff costume and a paperbag over his head to hide his id
July 1, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST
amazing how wb was much more secure in nolan's work
July 1, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST
by mr teaspoon
"As for cheap? Didn't Avi push for Venom in Spiderman 3 in place of the Vulture? After they asked the fans at comicon, over which villain to do next, and the audience overwhelmingly responded, Venom?" First of all, taking opinion polls at comic con is not how to make a good movie. Second of all, Avi Arad couldn't give less of a fuck as to what the fans want. He's there for the paycheck, which makes the canning of Raimi even more perplexing, as Spidey 3 raked in cash.
July 1, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST
by death metal batman
July 1, 2012, 5:40 p.m. CST
... they'd have worked out a reboot was a really bad idea, and that their Lizard design was awful. I still want a "Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends" film with Iceman and Firestar.... :)
July 1, 2012, 6:38 p.m. CST
... they know it's full of... how does one put this delicately?... less than intelligent people.
July 1, 2012, 7:32 p.m. CST
So by what scale are you judging a movies greatness? Its ratings on Rotten Tomatoes? Is there a slide rule or some scale you're using? I judge a movie on it's artistry and entertainment value. A movie that is stunningly beautiful and well written is a great movie, a movie that is just simply one or the other in my book is just a decent movie. If something looks brilliant and it entertains you and provokes feeling and thought than it is a great movie. Maybe I'm just weird. V for Vendetta is a brilliantly shot film. It is entertaining in not just the story and the action, but also the way it is filmed it is almost composed. Like looking at a painting or just reading the comic one time through just letting the pictures tell the story (which you can do in an Alan Moore comic). Movies like Ghost Rider or DareDevil suck because the director is trying to film a music video, or a commercial, or a cartoon. Films like The Avengers and V for Vendetta feel as though each shot is thought through. Take a look at the trailer for Skyfall (not a comic book movie) and you'll see what I mean, how every single shot looks as though someone thought about it and composed it. Way different than any other Bond movie I've ever seen. The Road to Perdition looked composed, The Crow looked composed. Great comic book movies are put together by thoughtful people, shitty comic book movies are put together by corporate hacks trying to churn out shit to get people to buy toys, or in the case of The Amazing Spider-Man, retain the rights to a character. I think Sam Raimi's Spider-Man worked because it looked good. It looked like someone read the comic and thought through every single shot. Say what you want about Raimi, his movies are shot using interesting angles, lens/lighting combos, et cetera. That's one reason why the new Spidey isn't something I care about because it just looks like a crappy music video. Anyway, that's just what I think about comic book movies and cinema in general.
July 1, 2012, 7:33 p.m. CST
by Talkbacker with no name
Raimi and Maguire were not canned. They walked. This is the only reason there is now an Amazing Spider-Man, else there would have been a Spider-Man 4. Without Maguire, they had no choice but to reboot or re-cast in Raimi's universe without Raimi.
July 1, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST
by death metal batman
I wasn't necessarily calling you out, but if you identify yourself as an old fart, oh well. I am a total Raimi fan. He gets a lifetime pass for Evil Dead 2 alone. His take on Spidey was awesome! Perfect? no way, so I don't mind the idea of a new Spider-Man movie by someone else and will certainly pass judgment when I see it. Not beforehand because I don't require the calculated 'authority' of RT scores to determine how I feel about movies.
July 1, 2012, 8:59 p.m. CST
by mr teaspoon
You're right, that was a slip-up on my part. The reality is that Raimi wasn't fired, the studio just decided to fuck with him til he couldn't take it anymore. Not much difference for this discussion.
July 1, 2012, 9:59 p.m. CST
July 2, 2012, 3:59 a.m. CST
by Bedknobs and Boomsticks
causes them to date rapidly.
July 2, 2012, 7:30 a.m. CST
wether it's Spiderman TAS or the Blade movies, which helped to usher the ongoing trend of Superhero Films post Batman, Alot of the credit goes to Arad who saw the potentual of these IPs. Sure, there were a few flops here and there, but overall, Most of Marvel's Films are decent if not great. Love how Stan (Lee) got pissed and sued Avi for more royalties from the films seeing as how he did nothing to help Kirby, Ditko,et al for their various contributions. Nice old man, but what a fucking Hypocrite.
July 2, 2012, 7:31 a.m. CST
July 2, 2012, 7:37 a.m. CST
Oh, you forgot to include both Fantastic Four travesties as well.
July 2, 2012, 8:04 a.m. CST
Spiderman 2 is the gold standard for post-superman superhero movies.
July 2, 2012, 9:14 a.m. CST
Because it was Sandman who killed Uncle Ben, right? And not the guy who Peter so selfishly lets get away. Which is just like in the comics, right? Right? If the robber doesn't kill Uncle Ben, it's not Peter's fault anymore. Now Spidey can go off and be a rich asshole celebrity with no remorse hanging over his head. Huzzah!
July 2, 2012, 9:23 a.m. CST
by death metal batman
I saw your equation, but just referenced RT to simplify my point. Which is I don't look to either to form my opinion of what I think is good. They're just tools, much like yourself.
July 2, 2012, 9:33 a.m. CST
Watch the movie again. It's still the burglar who is responsible for Ben's death.
July 2, 2012, 10:19 a.m. CST
It's been so long that I forgot. So it's just the singing and dancing, and Venom, and hugging and crying at the end with Sandman that sucked.
July 2, 2012, 10:20 a.m. CST
July 2, 2012, 10:55 a.m. CST
by Talkbacker with no name
Sandman shoots uncle Ben in a panic when his partner (the robber) comes running towards the car. and yeah, mrekoletmelive, I agree, relieving Peter of that guilt in such a bullshit way.
July 2, 2012, 12:19 p.m. CST
July 2, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST
Hmmm, that's kind of tricky when you think of the "Swagger Parker" Broadway Showtunesque dancing, Goblin Jr, phoned in Venom and worst.......The Fucking Butler who appears out of nowhere to let harry know that "Petey" did not kill his father. Fuck it as far as I'm concerned, it's a tie all around and that's why Spidey 3 was not for me.
July 2, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST
July 2, 2012, 1:14 p.m. CST
Laughed as in how Harry's butler appeared practically out of nowhere to expliain that peter was not responsible for Norman's death. (Not to mention how unintentionally funny that scene was. Almost like a Scooby Doo mystery unraveling.) Laughed at why haven't this "Butler" mention this to Harry awhile ago which would have saved Harry from the anger and hatred toward Spiderman and not to mention, getting his face burned. And..... Laughed at how poorly it got Spidey "off the hook" only to hav esome ill conceived Spidey & Gobby team-up against Sandzilla and Topher Grace whose potrayal of venom came off more like Alice in Wonderland's chesshire the Cat. This guy who nitpicked about the Butler, wasn't the foist yanno.
July 2, 2012, 1:22 p.m. CST
Fucker tells Spidey he didn't mean to do it then blows off into the wind was another "crowning achievement on how silly this sequel has become. Another attempt at humanizing a Comic Villian, been there, done that. At least Brock was a prick to begin with but "Sympathy for the Sandman" was a major cop out IMO.
July 2, 2012, 1:59 p.m. CST
Maybe the Butler was scared of Harry. He was after all, nuts.
July 2, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST
He's pretty much impossible to hold onto.
July 2, 2012, 2:16 p.m. CST
LMMFAO Now THAT would have been funny. And not to mention how Raimi-esque, considering the crazy shit that went on during his Evil Dead opus. But we did see a bit of raimi cutting loose during that scene in SPiderman 2, wheras Doc Ock being hospitalized awakens while inflicting carnage upon the Doctor and Surgery staff as they attempt to remove his Tenticles. Great stuff, indeed.
July 2, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST
What a perfect quote.
July 2, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST
by duke of url
Mike Riva directed an episode that was OUTSTANDING!!! check it out... The Eternal Mind---(thank you internet)
July 3, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST
Sure he had another story to tell. He basically followed the same storylines as the Superman movies, so the fourth movie would have naturally been about Nuclear-Spider-Man.
July 3, 2012, 11:09 p.m. CST
My problem with the butler scene wasn't that he waited so long to tell Harry, but that Norman being impaled by his own glider was enough to let Spider-Man off the hook, as if there was no possible way Spider-Man could have snagged the glider and used it as a weapon, which ironically is exactly what happened to Harry later. I always wondered if Harry looked down right after getting impaled by Venom and thought "Oh, maybe Spider-Man did kill Dad after all..."
July 5, 2012, 7:04 a.m. CST
by the artist formerly known as messi
lol turns out you were wrong and Arad gets Spidey even less. The cunt is a cancer
"MT: Yeah. And she was rigorous about the written word and as Avi said, she had this unbelievable scribe living in her house [Sargent and Ziskin married in 2010, after living together for 25 years] who ended up collaborating with all of us on subsequent movies. So you had these two people working together--totally different people--but you knew as long as they were both there, something spectacular was going to happen." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Fucking insanity. These guys and Ziskin have/had no idea. Bunch of assholes