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THE MAN WITH THE IRON FISTS trailer is the sort of throwdown badassery that we kung fu loving maniacs stay awake at night hoping someone is making!
Hey folks, Harry here... my first film genre that I loved was Kung Fu films, now that some folks that love the genre intensely have gotten their genre loving fingers upon its realm, hold onto your intestines, this film will most likely try to rip them out of ya! Produced by Quentin Tarantino. Co-Written by Eli Roth. All from a story written, directed & featuring the mighty RZA. Backed by Universal - and apparently it farts in the general direction of the MPAA - because this trailer - it's a red-band debut that gives us fountains of artfully spraying blood. KNB is doing some amazing work in here - AND they have a budget for solid CG. SO - let's see what they give us. I'm anticipating the sort of awesome that fans of MANGA & ANIME may be prepared for. Folks that love RIKI-OH: THE STORY OF RICKY will want to see. Russell Crowe is the confusing element for me. I'm dying to see how this film coalesces. But for now, we have the magnificence of this first blood red band trailer. Put plastic over your keyboard before playing...
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Stupid rap song over it sounds ass.
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June 28, 2012, 7:59 p.m. CST
I can tell.. the director was a fan of Kill Bill, Clones of Bruce Lee, and Van Damme's Cyborg.
by CodeName
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Almost twenty years since Wu-tang released their first album.
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That would be nasty!
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and video game quality special effects. Cool idea, poor execution. CGI ruins entertainment for the 100,000th time.
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Was he unable to change the very urban inner city cadence to his voice? Is that a nitpick given the twirly knife gun and dandy clothing Crowe has on? I don't know. Films like this just don't do much for me I guess.
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Fuck this shit. Oh, I mean fuck dat shiznit. I see RZA is the star of the movie. It's really not a good idea to associate with people who put themselves in every movie they make.
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June 28, 2012, 8:58 p.m. CST
Oh and "Have you seen that new Tarantino movie? It's called Hero."
by UMAGA
People are already saying the same thing about this.
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RZA's first movie huh? I imagined it more chopsocky, less special effects-y but it definitely looks insane.
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looks good.
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Especially the one with iron fists.
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Who the fuck is RZA and why should anyone be impressed that he directed a movie?
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June 28, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST
Disclaimer: I know the bulk of you guys aren't like this but.....you corny white geeks don't know from cool
by Terrence
I was certain this would be one of the trailers no one could bitch about on this site,yet here we are.
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"Who's Rza?"? Seriously? Have you been in a coma for the last 20 years and know absolutely nothing about contemporary music?
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half were born after 1995 and the other half haven't left their basements since then
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I'm really anticipating this one. RZA was basically born to do this!
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I guess us corny white geeks will have to stick to our lame, old school kung fu movies while you sit back and experience all of the bad ass awesomness of ripoffs of Ninja Assasin with all its slo mo super cool, hip cgi blood and violence while pretending to have seen Enter the Dragon. Man you are my hero. Youre so well versed in kung fu cinema that when someone is disappointed in a poorly cut trailer for a faux kung fu movie you can immediatley call them on their passive racist bullshit. I think now I'll go buy a Scarface t-shirt and wear it every day, even though I've never seen Scarface.
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June 28, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST
dcut75, after that question, you should leave this talkback in shame.
by Talkbacker with no name
Not only is he one of the most influential people in hip hop ever, but his impressive knowledge and love for kung fu flicks has been evident for around 20 years now. If anyone should be given the money to make one on this scale, it's him and it's about time!
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June 28, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST
Goddamnit Harry, this title is better than the last one you wrote for this movie
by D.Vader
But its still pretty bad. Please, please, please try harder. Please.
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the Last Son of Krypton
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June 28, 2012, 10:34 p.m. CST
RZA is the founder of Wu-Tang, and one of the best (the best, IMO) hip hop producers of all time
by Tim
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June 28, 2012, 10:35 p.m. CST
He also produced some of the soundtrack for Kill Bill, including that "slow walk" music that is played everywhere now
by Tim
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Along with Lucy Liu who would be worshipped as a goddess in my household.
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...six feet deep. Fuck. Yes. The RZA is gold.
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should be on Netflix soon
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These guys loved old skool kung-Fu so much they intigrated it into their ALBUMS... I would like to try your Wu-Tang style, Let's Begin Then! This looks good enough to watch, It does help that Lucy Lui is just SO HOT as well as being SO Bad-Ass.... Russel Crow is no longer in Gladiator shape though... he's... Looking less action and more traction..
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These guys loved old skool kung-Fu so much they intigrated it into their ALBUMS... I would like to try your Wu-Tang style, Let's Begin Then! This looks good enough to watch, It does help that Lucy Lui is just SO HOT as well as being SO Bad-Ass.... Russel Crow is no longer in Gladiator shape though... he's... Looking less action and more traction..
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June 28, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST
dcut75, haha ok you don't know kung fu movies
by Talkbacker with no name
because in that trailer alone I spotted nods to about 5 absolute classics. I'll give you 100 bucks for every one you can name! ...no I didn't think so.
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It looks just like all the goofy kung-fu movies the RZA grew up with, the kind that many of you adore. I see nothing wrong with this. It looks miles above The Machine Girl, Tokyo Gore Police, and The Flying Guillotine. But whether or not there is character and soul to latch on to, to sympathize with and root for, we'll see. But Lucy Liu and Crowe being involved, I'm inclined to believe there will be.
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WTF!!!!! Is every shitty looking movie supposed to be thought of as good when it more than likely will be shit. This looks fucking terrible and cheap. I especially am fuckin sick of all this gliding through the air matrix wire work shit in these movies. What ever happened to real martial arts.
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June 28, 2012, 10:42 p.m. CST
"Fat Russel Crowe"? Fuck you, he's always looked like that.
by D.Vader
People have been calling him fat since Gladiator, fuck off.
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June 28, 2012, 10:43 p.m. CST
As if being "fat" has anything to do with his acting ability
by D.Vader
You ignorant sluts.
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June 28, 2012, 10:45 p.m. CST
Oh, look, a *friends of AICN* project needs pimping. Actually looks cool for a change, though.
by justmyluck
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Or would you rather watch two fags throw champagne bottles at each other for some smurf looking bitch???
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You mean the ones that aren't portrayed in movies and sh!t??
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..and eat. And eat. And eat. My god, this is the man that was Maximus only 12 years ago. And RZA needs to do a few more push-ups instead of just curls. Unless manboobs are part of his kata. Lord, this movie looks like Mortal Kombat ran head-on into Kill Bill and neither one was wearing seatbelts. Bleh. Oh, and this movie isn't complete without Wesley Snipes, Eric Roberts, Christian Slater, or Val Kilmer. In fact, I hope they go back and add an eating contest--to the death!--between Val and Crowe.
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June 28, 2012, 10:49 p.m. CST
A Trailer for a Stupid Fun looking film ruined by Horrible Music...
by conspiracy
You know some cracker in a suit decided to shove ill fitting rap into this thing so it would appeal to the "Urban Demographic". Looks fun...kill the cliched hip hop, the kids are past that shit these day.
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For those who know, no answer is needed. For those who don't, nothing will suffice.
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June 28, 2012, 10:59 p.m. CST
conspiracy, Someone needs to download and listen to Enter the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers
by Talkbacker with no name
"Normally, you'd be 100% right, but this time, you're 100% wrong."
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June 28, 2012, 11:05 p.m. CST
Yeah Conspiracy, I have to agree that you are mistaken here
by D.Vader
Saying some white guy insisted on "ill-fitting" rap music for a kung-fu movie trailer written by and starring a rap music icon who idolizes these types of movies does feel a bit... uneducated. Hate to use that term with you, but I've had a few drinks and my vocabulary isn't firing 100%. For the people involved with the making of this movie, the music is absolutely 100% necessary.
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June 28, 2012, 11:06 p.m. CST
I mean, do you think the RZA of Wu-Tang made this movie for white people?
by D.Vader
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June 28, 2012, 11:14 p.m. CST
Talkbacker...it isn't the Who, rather the Cliched "What"
by conspiracy
I'm sure Wu-Tang is deep in the Kung Fu stylings, aesthetic...and I have no beef with Hip Hop in general. However, anytime I see Action Scenes paired with Rap (about 85% of the time)...it knocks the film down a notch, it borders on being a stereotype these days. That trailer would have been even better with perhaps some Chinese influenced instrumentals...
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does lucy liu age?
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June 28, 2012, 11:25 p.m. CST
It isn't ignorance Vader, rather the expectation of better...
by conspiracy
you'd think that an artist who idolizes these types of films would step outside and look at the work and think to himself..."Ya know...my music simply doesn't fit this aesthetic..." It has gotten to the point that action scene=Hip Hop and that's kinda sad for both art forms...that nobody is thinking original, or outside the stereotypical box. But hey...if ya'll dig it..more power too ya...just don't mind me when the fists on screen start flying, the hip hop starts pounding... and I'm in the back of the theater screaming "Motherfuckers PLEASE!"
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Franklin that is...and he don't give a good god damn if the hand forking them over is black, white, brown or blue. This fucker will draw a wide male audience...., you know we'll all see it. Just loose the cliched, overused, run into the ground Hip Hop...
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June 28, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST
Conspiracy, 85% of the time action scenes paired with rap!?
by Talkbacker with no name
If you had said terrible rock music, you might have a point. Maybe it's because it's 5:30am here and i've not long woken up, but I'm having trouble thinking of any off the top of my head. Give me some examples?
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Put that shit in there with my rant too... another action music choice that is as stale as fuck...
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by the level of ignorance most of you talk-backers have.. even those of you whos opinions ive sided with numerous times, those of you who regularly post in these talk-backs, i figured the lot of you smarter than that but boy was i wrong. i have been visiting this site daily for about six years now and though i usually choose to remain quiet, im appalled by what im seeing in these comments. that being said, im glad to see RZAs project finally seeing the light of day, it hopes to be as grand as a modern day authentic kung fu film should be and im sure it will see that brand of success.
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""Ya know...my music simply doesn't fit this aesthetic..." " No. As far as he is concerned, as far as he has always lived, his music has always fit the absurd genre that is ridiculous Kung-Fu movies. Just look at his group's name! And as far as this movie is concerned, the music fits for this wayward viewer. Its not meant to be a classic, its not meant to be an Oscar-winner. What would fit better, in your opinion? Classical music? An original piece by Yo-Yo Ma? 70s Funk?
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June 28, 2012, 11:40 p.m. CST
"just don't mind me when the fists on screen start flying, the hip hop starts pounding... and I'm in the back of the theater screaming "Motherfuckers PLEASE!" "
by D.Vader
I actually think that would make the experience better. And I think the filmmakers would welcome that response.
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June 28, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST
I should have said Action Scenes in Trailers Talkbacker...
by conspiracy
My bad...I got my my rant up. They always save the full Song for the credits... You can't tell me you haven't been sitting there watching trailers in the theater..and BAM...action with Hip Hop over top...or as you said...horrible Rock. Shit has got to stop...I want fucking Scores for a scene...not a damned pop song.
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Myself...I'd have hired a Hong Kong musician and created a Chinese Influenced Score...something modern, yet reflecting the cultural origin of the style.
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June 28, 2012, 11:48 p.m. CST
conspiracy, but RZA's music does fit the aesthetic
by Talkbacker with no name
That's kind of the point you are missing.
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June 28, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST
I'd go see this with you Vader...and I most definitely will give the Motherfuckers PLEASE cry...
by conspiracy
if the action scenes are layered with non-stop hip hop or bullshit crunchy guitars... But you better have my back fucker...
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June 28, 2012, 11:54 p.m. CST
This is why it's exciting to see RZA finally make this movie
by Talkbacker with no name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MavHcZOOKzc&feature=related
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Ice T started this shit...and at the time it was novel and fit the film. But from then on it has just gotten out of hand...generic radio pop music for every fucking trailer... action=Hip Hop or bad Rock, Romance=Angst ridden female acoustic guitar playing chick or stubbly sensitive male singer, Teen Film=pop tart of the moment... All I want is a Proper fucking Score...something as original as the film I'm watching.
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Come on you know what I mean. I'm talking about CG. Flying through the air and BS like that. Of course its all choreographed but id rather watch a martial arts movie with something that looks real rather than this cartoon horseshit. Just sayyin is all
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What the hell did I just watch?
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June 29, 2012, 12:04 a.m. CST
talkbacker...We are looking at it from two different perspectives..
by conspiracy
YOU..as a Wu-Tang fan...and your perception is colored as such. Me..as a general viewing audience. All I see a China representation...a sort of steam punk/Hong Kong Fantasy aesthetic...that American hip hop is being injected into. For me..it ain't working, it seems cliched...no,,,not working, not by a long shot. But never fear...I'm gonna see this bitch...RZA got my $12.50 with a bed full of writhing Asian girls and Lucy Liu
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June 29, 2012, 12:06 a.m. CST
"I'd have hired a Hong Kong musician and created a Chinese Influenced Score...something modern, yet reflecting the cultural origin of the style. Reply to Talkback" I'd almost say that is cliched
by D.Vader
But considering this comes from the RZA, I believe his inclusion in the musical decisions made for trailer and final film are absolutely vital.
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June 29, 2012, 12:09 a.m. CST
conspiracy, that's all well and good, but I'm still waiting for examples
by Talkbacker with no name
of some of the 85% of action scenes with hip hop music you have claimed, dude.
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You don't have to be a fan of rap, RZA or Wu Tang to appreciate this trailer. It hit several marks for me. It missed a couple too, but what doesn't these days. I'm interested.
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June 29, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST
Looks ridiculous, but appropriately schlocky for the cheese it's trying to update. Oh, and an awful lot of nerds trying to show their street cred here.
by kevred
Hip hop's not a secret club, guys. Everyone knows about it. You're not in possession of any cool-guy secrets, if you ever were. It jumped the shark many years ago now. This looks pretty stupid, but it does look like an appropriate update to the chop-suey cheesefests that your average old pulp-kung-fu sort-of-classic films represented. Once the hypnotic spell that the digital effects casts over a bunch of video-game-playing morons wears off, we'll remember what made the old films such preposterously good fun, and why this is just a cover song with slick production. But if it's a labor of love and remembers to be fun, then no harm no foul.
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June 29, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST
conspiracy, and wrong about the two different perspectives
by Talkbacker with no name
ME as a kung fu fan first and foremost. While I do love those early Wu-Tang records and RZA's soundtrack work, I think I just understand where this is coming from better than you do if you are just a "general viewing audience" member. Maybe that's why this doesn't work for you. I dunno. ...still waiting for those examples.
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June 29, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST
talkbacker...I meant Action Scenes in Trailers...or even trailers in general...
by conspiracy
They save the actual song till the credits...usually. I'll admit my 85% is an ranting talkback exaggeration..., but you know what I mean...Action=Hip Hop or Nu Rock. And it is PURE marketing...the music has Zero to do with the scene, it is a pre-made pop song stuck in a film to make it seem "Edgy" to the suburbanites sitting there, or to pander to some targeted demo identified by marketing...its cliched. You telling me you haven't been sitting there watching trailers and some out of place music...not just hip hop... come screaming at you? Snippets of everyone from Jay-Z to fucking Korn. I'm sure you can Google it....try searching for Rap Songs in Movie Trailers...I'm sure you'll get hits... Fuck...even Green Hornet had fucking Hip Hop in the trailer...and the metal dudes have made careers out of being a film trailer cliches.
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June 29, 2012, 12:42 a.m. CST
And No matter the Honest Love RZA has for the genre..(yeah I watched your link)...
by conspiracy
...his music still strikes me as out of place and ill fitting....maybe it wasn't some white guy in a suit shoving it in there...maybe is was just a guy trying to reach what he sees as His audience. But in my opinion...it diminished what was otherwise a ridicules and fun trailer.
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June 29, 2012, 12:47 a.m. CST
conspiracy, this is gonna suck for you then
by Talkbacker with no name
Because The Man with Iron Fist features music by RZA, Wu-Tang, The Black Keys and Kayne West.
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like all films after it, it looks like a take on Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. The most influential martial arts film of a generation, ignore it but its true. They all strive to reach its mastery.
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What I don't know is why I should give a fuck that he directed a movie.
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June 29, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST
Fuck everything else. I saw a direct reference to FIVE DEADLY VENOMS. Your man RZA has sold me on that alone. Plus the involvement of KMB. I'm in for this.
by cactusjack1972
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June 29, 2012, 2:13 a.m. CST
I don't a fuck about Hip-Hop. But I love Kung-Fu cinema, and if anyone is trying to keep it alive for a new generation, that's okay by me.
by cactusjack1972
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June 29, 2012, 2:16 a.m. CST
Prediction: Harry will give this 10 stars and will be splooging all over it.s
by Mr. Pricklepants
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June 29, 2012, 2:39 a.m. CST
Don't you know that music producers who can barely speak legible English (that's him narrating the start) make the best movies...
by Fortunesfool
Lets start hiring music producers to make everything. Why not? The industries been fucked by TV hacks, why not give music producers a shot.
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June 29, 2012, 2:42 a.m. CST
Lerkst... Just because it's the only martial arts film you've seen, doesn't mean that every other film is ripping it off!
by Rasmus Starup Petersen
The influences for this one go waaay deeper.
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June 29, 2012, 3:27 a.m. CST
Before comparing this to Riki-Oh maybe you should watch it first.
by higgledyhiggles
On the other hand I always did like the `special weapons` Kung Fu movies. This is nothing like those either. It`s maybe a more violent version of Once upon a time in China. Should be some eye-popping fun though. Give me One armed Boxer 1 and 2 as a double bill any day.
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haha I've sampled the fuck out of that movie. The english dub on it is hilariously brilliant.
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June 29, 2012, 4:20 a.m. CST
Seriously, Who is *The* voice over guys from all the Kung Fu movies ?
by higgledyhiggles
They are all very similar if not the same. Who dubbed them ? There were a few different voice, `Fat Stupid Guy`, `Weaseley Thin Moustache semi Bad Guy Accountant`, `Feisty Woman`, `The Big Bad Guy` and obviously `Hero Guy`. Come on this would be an awesome documentary. Oh and Jimmy Wang Yu kung fu chopping the baddies is a part of my childhood now, that and the Water Margin.
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June 29, 2012, 4:20 a.m. CST
but if you want hilariously shit on every level
by Talkbacker with no name
may I suggest U.S. Catman 2: Boxer Blow. I never tire of watching this insanity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3ASXgOuJA
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June 29, 2012, 4:21 a.m. CST
talkbacker with no name: You`re right, It`s a classic, the sequel is kinda fun but One Armed Boxer is the best.
by higgledyhiggles
The Indian guy who hypnotizes people by handstanding and running on 1 finger. Now that`s (sort-of) kung fu.
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is the only name I care about when evaluating a kung fu movie. This one has Corey Yuen. No thanks. Give me some Ching Siu Tung any day.
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June 29, 2012, 4:30 a.m. CST
@therawbeatsdotcom "He also produced some of the soundtrack for Kill Bill, including that "slow walk" music that is played everywhere now"
by chuffsterUK
No he didn't! That's "Battle without Honor or Humanity" by Tomoyasu Hotei !! Show's how much you REALLY know eh?
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Thank you! Gotta say that not a single Rza music cue from Kill Bill is in any way memorable, too bad he seems to always get the credit for Hotei's work. Rza has shitting out drivel with everything after the first Bobby Digital album.
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June 29, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST
fortunesfool, yeah and it was a shitty movie with a good score
by Talkbacker with no name
what's your point?
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He's never directed before, hasn't really produced anything (film) before, and hasn't really even been an actor in anything good. How does he get the money to do this?
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June 29, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST
It would've made more sense if he got Michael Jai White to play the Blacksmith
by Wcwlkr
I'm just saying, I know that due to the Matrix you can have people look like Kung Fu Masters. But I'm sorry I see the Rza doing Kung Fu & it just makes me laugh. It works in context of a Music Video Rza, but in a feature film. I would've preferred Michael Jai White, or Chiwetal Ejiofor. Someone I can actually believe could do some Kung Fu. It looks interesting, and yes STOP WITH THE CGI Blood. Ninja Assassain & The Expendables should've taught people this lesson. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed both of those for the pure carnage of it. But it would've looked a hell of a lot better without the CGI blood.
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June 29, 2012, 11:03 a.m. CST
It amazes me people on the internet ask "Who is" anyone
by blackmantis
Google it mothertfucker...you'll have your answer in less than three seconds!
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Who have no taste or style, and are proud of their ignorance. Seriously.. in 2012, how do we still have comments like "Who listens to this rap crap? It's just noise. Who the fuck is RZA?" Go pick your pale ass pimples! And yeah, I am white too... so I can call you out on your cracker ass and it's all good, just between friends :) But anyone who doesn't know who RZA is nowadays is socially and culturally red-state NASCARtarded.
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June 29, 2012, 1:09 p.m. CST
Basically this is the tea house end scene in Kill Bill Vol 1
by Andrew Quinsatt
Extended to a full length movie for us peasants to enjoy.. To that I applaud you Mr. Rza and by the way, Lucy liu is a babe!!! Oh and it's in English spoken dialect because my redneck ass can't read and watch moving pictures at the same goddamn time!!!! I'm so fucking stupid!!!!
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June 29, 2012, 1:10 p.m. CST
So when did Tarantino become the spokesperson for Asian Cinema??
by Andrew Quinsatt
His name seems to always come up when there is some kind of Kung Fu made in America type shit being pumped in the mainstream... GOOD JOB TARANTINO!!!!
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June 29, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST
"But you better have my back fucker..." No doubt, Conspiracy
by D.Vader
We'll take them all on. Their tiger style will be no match for our double dragon style!
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June 29, 2012, 4:49 p.m. CST
@by dcut75...ENTER THE DRAGON is not a kung fu movie....Bruce Lee made karate movies
by smokie
And for those who don't know who RZA is makes me either feel old or sorry for you. This movie looks fun to mke just for the fact that he made it......it will prob suck but I will see it anyway
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The guy is a horrible writer. My guess, Quentin did a rewrite on this, uncredited.
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- "Play some rap music."
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I don't know who the choreographer is for this, but if they are smart, they got Wo-Ping. If they didn't, and it looks to me more like some total crap like what Tsui Hark puts out, then this will have no redeeming value. But if they have actually got Wo-Ping, or one of his proteges, then I can ignore the stupid music and just enjoy the spectacle. But if someone used the word 'good' and 'cgi' in the same sentence when describing what was seen in this trailer, then, umm NO. In particular, that bit where those straps or whatever they were, were wrapped around that muscle dude, that was just AWFUL. I mean, Wolverine awful.
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