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Capone remembers that he always loved the kid behind the mask, thanks to Marc Webb's THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN!!!
Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.
Because it's being released in such close proximity to THE AVENGERS, the temptation I'm sure many critics and civilians will face is comparing that film with director Marc Webb's THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. And what I'm hoping you all do is be sophisticated enough to realize that both are very strong movies for almost entirely different reasons. Of course, the other temptation will be to compare Webb's relationship-heavy take on the life of young Peter Parker with Sam Raimi's trilogy. This is unavoidable but would still be doing the new film a great disservice.
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN does something almost unheard of in the superhero arena: it treats its relationships with reverence. And in that sense, this film is like no other superhero movie I've ever seen. These characters care about each other, and as a result, we care about them. I always got the sense the Mary Jane Watson loved Peter Parker but was turned on by the suit; but in Webb's version of things, Gwen Stacy (beautifully played as the most mature, emotionally stable character in the film by Emma Stone) is madly in love with Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield, who captures the shy, awkward, intelligent, jokester so much more convincingly than Tobey Maguire ever did--and I say that having always been a fan of Maguire's work).
Chemistry is a tough thing to define or explain, but you know it when you see it, and from the first moment they converse, we see a connection between Peter and Gwen that is lifted straight from the original comic books. Hell, I don't think a man alive could resist Gwen as played by Stone, complete with the go-go boots, miniskirts and assortment of headbands framing her blonde bangs. But her appeal goes light years beyond her looks. She's caring and protective of her man, but she could also give his intellect a run for its money. She's Parker's complete package, and these two must be together.
But THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN's accomplishments don't end with the love story, which was a natural fit for Webb, director of the wonderful (500) DAYS OF SUMMER. This film is actually three movies: a love story; a family drama involving Peter's sense of parental abandonment; and an examination of the mentor/adversary relationship between Peter and Dr. Curt Connors (Rhys Ifans), who has been written as both an employee of OsCorp (run by the unseen Norman Osborn) and former colleague of Peter's father, Richard (seen in flashbacks and played by Campbell Scott). And all three storylines are fascinating for their own reasons.
The way Raimi treated the relationship between Peter and his Aunt May and Uncle Ben always seemed like a pesky afterthought, something he needed to plod through to get to the action set pieces. But Webb the elder Parkers, as played by Sally Field and Martin Sheen. This place where they live with their nephew is a warm, loving home where Peter must work through everything from being the victim of bullying on a semi-regular basis at school, to first love, to having the crap kicked out of him by various villains.
In the comics, Peter's conversion into Spider-Man was always a metaphor for the angst teens about entering adulthood, both physically and mentally, but never have I seen such a clear representation of that than THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, and that's due in large part to Garfield's wonderful acting. Peter is a bundle of jittery nerves, but he's also a skillful skateboarder (even before his spider bite). There's a timid side to him that is balanced by an underlying knowledge that he lives in a time when nerds are inheriting the earth and becoming billionaires.
It's so much fun watching him trial-and error design his webshooters or the excitement he feels as he presents Connors with the missing formula for cross-species regeneration. And when he becomes Spider-Man, as much as he should probably keep that a secret, as an excitable teenager, he can't help but tell Gwen because he loves her. Thoughts of the danger that knowledge puts her in haven't entered his immature mind just yet, but they will.
I realize I'm making THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN sound like strictly a character study, but make no mistake, the action sequence are fan-fucking-tastic. There's a playful sloppiness to some of the early scenes where Peter is still figuring out both his powers as well as the webs and web shooters he's built himself. Sometimes his webs don't land where he wants them because he hasn't figured out how to aim them just yet. Another sequence has Spider-Man swinging too low over a New York City street, and as a result, he bounces off buses, cars and buildings. He still has to learn a little more about physics as it applies to him swinging on a web. And of course, this all makes sense. How would he know how to do work with these newfound skills without practice?
Webb features a couple of exquisite POV shots of Spider-Man floating through the city, and it's in sequences like that where the 3-D truly comes to life. There is much of this film that does not benefit from 3-D in the slightest, but the aerial shots are perfection as are the fight scenes with The Lizard, the monster Connors becomes when he decides to make himself the lab rat for his own limb-regeneration experiments. Like many Spider-Man "villains," Connors has some firmly established psychological issues before science turns him into a monster. His ideas about weakness and strength in people is a bit twisted, and Ifans does a convincing job of wanting to help Peter finish the work his father started and encouraging the young man in his chosen field of science. Connors is the secondary father figure as well as being a career counselor.
So what about The Lizard, never one of my favorite foes in the comic books? What I do like about the battles between Spider-Man and The Lizard in this movie is how Spider-Man is forced to hold back and not hurt his friend under the scaly skin, which is not to say their scraps aren't brutal. The way The Lizard moves with such speed and fluidity, incorporating his tail, hell bent on full-on destruction, and it's a blast to watch. I was especially impressed with the slow transformation Connors makes into this creature; it's not an immediate change, and as a result we see Ifans in half-lizard makeup that is almost more monstrous than the final version.
I'll admit, once I realized that THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN would feature another version of the Spider-man original story, it took the wind out of my sails a bit. But there are small, important changes in both the radioactive spider bite scenario and the death of Uncle Ben that make Webb's telling important because those moments fall more in line with the greater story of Peter Parker's life. They don't just happen randomly; they happen because Peter's recklessness and immaturity lead to them. And yes, I know the death of Uncle Ben has always been partly Peter's fault, but the version of that pivotal moment here is so much more tragic.
I really hope Webb finishes out his vision of Spider-Man in sequels. I'd hate to see anyone else continue the Gwen Stacy saga, especially if it plays out as it does in the comic books. He has such a sure and steady hand when it comes to human drama that it would be a shame to let anyone else touch this world that he has meticulously built. THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN isn't paced, written or executed like any superhero film that came before it, but in terms of building out these richly realized characters and relationships, I can't think of another director who has handled that aspect better. The action is great too, but we all know what great action and effects look like in these types of films. This movie is an entirely different, more involving experience that I fell in love with.
-- Steve Prokopy
"Capone"
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Seriously can't wait to see this. Was already all in, and this review just added to it. Can't wait to see Gwen Stacy and Peter Parker in love on screen.
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FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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June 27, 2012, 1:30 a.m. CST
Does Peter see Tony Stark's reflection in a window after he porks Gwen the first time?
by Domi'sInnerChild
With a Shoot to Thrill musical number happening?
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my hope for ASM has been fading of late. This review's a decent start to restore some of it.
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June 27, 2012, 1:32 a.m. CST
Nice, but ll this at the expense of not including J Johna Jameson and the Daily Bugle!
by CeejayNightwing
That's why he can spend more time with things like Peter and Aunt May's relationship.
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Man paid his due for 3 films to be the lizard. Oh, and no one wants to see this movie.
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June 27, 2012, 1:41 a.m. CST
i'm on board as long as the horrible 'auntie may' stays clear of her 'hero' speeches
by Windowlicker74
god i hated her in those raimi movies. and she just kept on rambling about how the world needed a hero sigh
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And I'm paying $100 dollars in flight tickets so I can see it in glorious 3D. So shut the fuck up about people not wanting to watch this. This is the best year for comic book movie fans since ever. And still we have silly rivalries. There's box office and money to EVERY OTHER FILM, mates. Stop fighting for stupid box office records. I just want to say it once again, BRILLIANT, Capone. Let's convince Marc Webb and Sony to make a fucking sixtology out of this.
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The fact that this is a near remake of SM1 with only minor changes didn't bother you? How many times do we have to watch Spider-man battle a sympathetic mentor/father figure villian that talks to himself?
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That's what bugged me the most about the Rami film. I could always tell when it went from live action to CG. And crazy unrealistic angles CG allows.
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June 27, 2012, 1:49 a.m. CST
Great review, Capone. I was looking forward to this one anyway; now I'm fully commited.
by cactusjack1972
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It seems that they've pushed as much as they could with pratical stunts for this. There's actually a pretty good article about this on NY Post: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/movies/meet_peter_parkour_Cf04GvXLWkO0vzo2pHeNlM
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should have been spider man.
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June 27, 2012, 1:54 a.m. CST
I Hereby Challenge All AICN "Critics" To Completely Avoid Mention Of Raimi Or His Films In Your "Reviews"
by THX1968
I bet none of you can fucking do it.
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June 27, 2012, 1:59 a.m. CST
OH SHUT THE FUCK UP I WANNA SEE SOME SPIDEY ACTION I HAVE NO INTEREST IN PETER OR AUNT MAY OR THAT SHIT ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BACKGROUND
by Autodidact
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I wasn't gonna say anything, but I saw this a few days ago and I fucking hated it. Maybe this film was made for the "Ultimates" generation. To me, this film is a long ways off from my Ditko, Romita, Kane, Andru, Frenz, McFarlane, Hannigan, Milgrom, and a shitload more creators Spidey. I'm too surly (drunk) to get into it right now. Scientist Gwen Stacy. If that bothers you (and it should), then you will have the same difficulties as I when trying to enjoy this film.
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I'm from the same generation as you, it seems. And still I'm more excited for this than I ever did for any of Raimi's films. There's something about the two trailers that I've seen that makes me think THAT'S the Spider-Man/Peter Parker that I've been waiting to see in the big screen since forever. I'm sorry for you, but I honestly think that Capone's opinion is the one that will be the one most echoed across the board. Our toys don't get old, mate. We do. We either live enough to enjoy them getting new takes on the Spider-Man mythos or we become jaded and butthurt. I'm sorry that you hated, but I feel that at this point there's anything stopping me of fucking loving this.
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The only part of the movie that felt like a remake to me was the origin story, and they get through that pretty quickly, I thought. And for once, the mentor angle felt appropriate because of the connection between Connors and Peter's father. So I guess the answer to your question is, No, it didn't bother me because I didn't see it that way.
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This particular story is set prior to Peter joining the Bugle, so there's no Jonah or Better or Robbie. But I bet they'll be there for the next one. Leary's Capt. Stacy kind of fills in for Jonah in this chapter.
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Dude, I bet YOU couldn't do it. And please feel free to throw that challenge out to every critic on the planet while you're at it.
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Well, having actually seen the film - I did not care for it. This was not my Peter Parker, or Gwen Stacy, or Curt Conners, and I'm not gonna spoil anything. If you like it, great - one man's trash is another man's treasure... as they say.
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Kiddie play - all you have to do is not mention Raimi or his films to make lazy comparisons. Do I really have to prove that I can do this?
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June 27, 2012, 2:42 a.m. CST
i think its ok to mention raimi beause he made a spider man movie 5 years ago too.
by Balkin Flabgurter
sony sucks.
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Great review Capone, my son & I were already looking forward to the first great Spider-Man film (enjoyable though Raimi's movies were, they always felt 'off'), can't wait!
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One of the best I've read on this site. I'm sick of the cynical crap spewed by so many. This review really touches the fanboy in me. I think The Amazing Spider-Man looks like it will be a fantastic movie, and your review makes me want to see it all the more.
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June 27, 2012, 3:17 a.m. CST
Sounds like a SMALLVILLE version of Spiderman...why not just make a CW series of it..
by DARKJEDI
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My question is does he sparkle when the sun shines directly on him?
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You make my ears bleed as I mentally read your wordings! "But Webb the elder Parkers..." " a metaphor for the angst teens about entering adulthood" Is these plural or are it singular? "the action sequence are fan-fucking-tastic" "His ideas about weakness and strength in people is a bit twisted" Rhetorical Question of the Week: "So what about The Lizard, never one of my favorite foes in the comic books?"
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Everyone will talk about how crappy it really is 2-3 years later....
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What is your point, kid? Why is it such a bad thing to mention Raimi's version of the story. It was like 4% of Capone's review, and the differences between the films were used to explain the angle that Webb is taking with the film. So...what's the problem other than you just deciding to complain out of nowhere?
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"But Webb the elder Parkers, as played by Sally Field and Martin Sheen." I think you a word there. Or a couple of them.
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And you'll come out feeling pretty good about it. It's not the second coming, and I think it could have used more new material (they pushed the "untold story" and "truth about parents" in the promotional material, but most of that isn't in the film) but I certainly didn't hate it. Once you've got this mildly bitter pill down, however, it does set up some interesting things for a sequal. Just not a fan of "this is what we'll show you" marketing and then "actually, wait 3 more years" sly kick-in-the-balls movie.
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You must've been too antsy to properly edit this bad boy. Too many grammatical errors made I's head hert.
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where some guy gets bit by a radioactive penis and becomes cock-man or something? if not, i call dibs!!!
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that should get ur hopes up for the sequel.
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June 27, 2012, 5:26 a.m. CST
I was dead against this reboot, but because I've heard such good things about it I'll run it up the flagpole...
by ChickenStu
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Here comes the plunge as the non bought and paid for reviews start rolling in. IGN and Drew McWeeny reviews are up and stab a big turd dildo in this crapfests ass.
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Thanks for the review, Capone!
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June 27, 2012, 5:57 a.m. CST
Hmm.... well I tend to trust Capone's reviews with good results.
by gotilk
This is good news. I had a feeling they got Peter Parker very, very right this time. And for people who really love the comics, it's Peter's story that matters. Spidey is very sweet icing.
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will have to wait a couple of weeks until after the release date to see any reviews i trust. maybe it's a really good movie, maybe not.
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Hopefully those braindead suits at Sony will wise up and cast Morbius as the next villain.
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June 27, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST
Sounds like Webb nailed it. LOL at everyone who bitched about the snout
by Logan_1973
Movie comes first. You've been schooled.
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it's probably a good movie.
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How utterly uninspiring.
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June 27, 2012, 7:44 a.m. CST
I feel this is just a stepping stone to a TDK like sequel featuring venom.
by knowthyself
Yup.
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This review did more to get me excited about this than any of the trailers have so far. I've always been a HUGE Spider-Man fan, but for whatever reason, I just couldn't get it up for this. Hopefully it'll be as good as this review makes i out to be.
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Now my coffee is spilled all over my monitor...thank you very much!
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Would it be wise to avoid the 1st Raimi film before seeing this? I was entertaining the thought...
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Capone, before we go any further with your reviews of superhero movies there is an important question for you to answer... Do you still stand by your review of SUPERMAN RETURNS? I quote you below: *Superman Returns is the finest and most well-rounded film about superheroes ever made... Superman Returns isn't simply good, it's damn near perfect, and it gets better with repeated viewings.* I personally thought SUPERMAN RETURNS was a limp dicked and forgettable movie, a total misfire. Im not trolling I honestly want to hear your thoughts on SUPERMAN RETURNS now some time has passed?
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He simply doesn't look the part. Too tall, too in shape. And the Lizard also doesn't look right. Not to mention the dark tone to everything.
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June 27, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST
This has already fallen below Raimi's first film on Rotten Tomatoes
by American Mythos
81 percent, and it hasn't even opened wide yet. Who wants to bet it levels off around Spider-Man 3 territory (63 percent) by the time it's all said and done? And to those whose only retort is "Oh well, it will make shitloads of money," don't forget, Spider-Man 3 made shitloads of money. Whatever, it still looks like mindless summer fun. At least this summer can be remembered for Avengers and TDKR.
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Will always up the possibility of my seeing a film
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http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/review-the-amazing-spider-man-is-neither-amazing-nor-new
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June 27, 2012, 8:47 a.m. CST
Yeah, because 81% on Rotten Tomatoes is bad. And Moriarty's "review" is no different than the same slop we get from Harry. He clearly went into the movie with baggage and an agenda.
by YourMomsBox3D
He states no less than three times that he was against the reboot from the start.
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June 27, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST
Since when do geeks need critical concencus from rottentomatoes to validate their tastes?
by P
Jesus, people. What a bunch of lemmings. Growing up, I fell in love with a lot of films that most people I knew had never heard of or dismissed as genre crap. My friends and I would seek out weird, cool films in magazines like Starlog, Video Watchdog and Fangoria. We'd pester the guy at the video store to get these titles. Part of the fun of being a movie geek is developing your own idiosyncratic tastes and little obsessions. Now so-called geeks need collective percentile validation from RT? Or worse, box office? You're not fans. You are passive consumer lapdogs. There's a huge difference. If you can't see what that difference is than you are really missing out. Seriously.
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June 27, 2012, 9:03 a.m. CST
zombie_fatigue, the irony of you calling dissenters of this film 'mindless consumer laptops' is that this film is made for mindless consumer lapdogs.
by American Mythos
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June 27, 2012, 9:07 a.m. CST
And if you're equating this film to the b-movie cult classics of your childhood, when it's supposed to be the progenitor to a mega-franchise...
by American Mythos
... then it's already dead on arrival. Then again, looking at this film through that lens, with such low expectations, might be the only way to find some quality in it.
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But you've been around here long enough to know what I'm talking about: the box office horse race. The x>y bullshit. The using RT not to better inform your decision about seeing it, but to validate your preconceived notions about its quality. In other words, I agree with your point. But it wasn't the point I was making. I think we're on the same page though.
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http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/congratulations-world-ryan-reynolds-is-your-highlander.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FilmSchoolRejects+%28Film+School+Rejects%29 WHY? WHY DO THEY KEEP TRYING TO MAKE HIM A MOVIE STAR?
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Then why would you not say the opposite in regard to Capone's glowing review of the thing? I have not seen a lot of negative reaction towards the movie. I've seen two blasee reviews. Neither hated it per say, but neither really liked it all that much either. And one came from a guy (McWeeny) who states over and over again that he was against the reboot from jump street. That kind of tosses his credibility out the window in my opinion. For the sake of argument, in terms of "geek" consensus: Capone adored it, Moriarty was meh about it. I'll say it falls somewhere in between, which would overall make it a pretty solid movie-going experience, especially in IMAX 3-D. If you honestly think this thing is going to be on Netflix in a couple of months, you're way off. They JUST got Drive available for instant streaming, and that is hardly a $200 million major studio tentpole picture.
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But now I can't wait to see it. Sounds like it hits all the right notes. And handles the reboot factor swiftly. It'll be a heart-warming foil to the next July superhero film.
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June 27, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST
"THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN does something almost unheard of in the superhero arena: it treats its relationships with reverence."
by Ingeld
You lost me right there. No other superhero movie did this for you? Have you seen any?
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Nor was it a acquiescence to the supporters of Spiderman or any new film, in particular. It's about developing and cultivating a personal relationship with films, and not just passively responding to hype and marketing one way or the way. Of course I read reviews to help find out if I might find a film interesting. Have been for years. And some critics who I admire are going to get my attention more than others. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that folks who use critical concensus and box office to validate their position on a film, who can only see media through a prism of marketing and hype, are insecure consumer lapdogs. If someone resembles this remark and takes offense, so be it.
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Do you have an email address you could drop in here? Myself and others would like to offer you sanctuary.
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But I'm a bit cagey about posting an email on here due to some of the feedback my comments have gotten ;) What I would REALLY appreciate is a recommendation for another site. I'll even set up the same (or similar) username so we can keep in touch. Any recommendations? I'm sure you have a pretty good idea of where I'm coming from.
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I'm looking for something safer.
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stlost100@gmail.com
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I loathe Netflix as well. My wife makes me keep it because it's simple to use (stream right through Apple TV) and cheap. She isn't half the movie nut I am, so she finds a lot to watch on there, to be honest. Plus, there is a ton of kiddie-stuff available for when we are on niece or nephew duty. Personally, I seek refuge in the basement, with my Blu-Ray collection. I buy movies blind a lot as well. And yeah, I agree with you. There are plenty of times, especially on this site, where it is painfully obvious that a review was bought and paid for. Harry's Green Lantern review comes immediately to mind, naturally. As far as Spider-Man, I can't say that Capone was bought. I fall on the same side of the fence as him more often than not, although McWeeny's review would have definitely knocked some wind from my sails had he not so obviously gone into the theater with a chip on his shoulder.
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June 27, 2012, 9:57 a.m. CST
lmao at you nerds saying you won't go see a movie called "The Amazing Spider-Man"
by master_of_realty
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June 27, 2012, 10 a.m. CST
can one of you comicbook readers just tell me what this Gwen story is?
by Spandau Belly
What's this Gwen Stacy story in the comicbooks that all the fanboys want to see in the film sequels? Does Gwen become a villain or something?
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June 27, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST
I've been waiting for this since it was announced. 500 DAYS is 3/4 of a pretty great Spider-Man movie already.
by FlickaPoo
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The Spectacular Spider-Man, Astonishing Spider-Man, The Sensational Spider-Man, Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, Ultimate Spider-Man, Web of Spider-Man......I could go on and on.
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without some degree of baggage. Most people will try to give the movie a chance and many will probably end up liking it. But comparisons to Raimi's trilogy will be unavoidable but that's you get when you reboot a franchise that had its last film only 5 years ago.
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June 27, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST
Speaking of 500 DAYS OF SUMMER, where the hell has SexyBack been?
by FlickaPoo
This place isn't the same for a lot of reasons, but the absence of his crazy ass is one of them.
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June 27, 2012, 10:03 a.m. CST
Comparisons to those stinky Raimi-Man movies can only help this movie.
by FlickaPoo
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And neither is the all but totally disinterested public. Maybe I'll go see Avengers again this weekend, or just wait for Dark Knight Rises.
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Yes, sir, the check is in the mail.
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June 27, 2012, 10:07 a.m. CST
I will see this for sure, but here is what I really hope for the 3RD film iteration of Spidey whenever that is...
by Dogmatic
It looks like Webb is making these films to be all about the Peter and Gwen love story. Osborn gets introduced again as Green Goblin and kills Gwen and film #3 is about Peter dealing with that and having his soul saved by a different kind of love in the intro of MJ. Then that series will wrap. What I want THEN...whether Garfield is still up for it or yet another casting....is a Spidey film series that throws the origin story way in the rearview and picks up Spidey deep into his super-heroing career. Ther are so many stories to do with Peter personally in the middle of his career as Spidey...how his life has been affected by all those years of crimefighting...and so many more epic battles to do with a confident top-of-his-game Spidey. I think the public will be ready for that type of Spidey film by that point. That is one of the few things that Spider-Man 3 DID get right. They really started to show Tobey's Peter as being way more confident and steady in his role as Spider-Man. I remember getting chills when he pulls off the rescue of Gwen in that death-defying dive and weave and thru the building wreckage before webbing onto a piece and using it to propel him to her right before she is smashed....and did it all without really missing a beat. Loved that and want to see more of that Spidey.
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Don't get me wrong, if he completely nails this version of Spiderman, good on him. But how about a refreshing director with every instalment, so we can keep away from this damned trilogy nonsense. And the Joel Schumachers of the flim world need not apply. No. More. Origin. Stories.
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June 27, 2012, 10:14 a.m. CST
The disinterested public? Hysterical. You do realize that the world does not start and stop with you and your circle of blow-hards right? THIS is why people quote box office....
by YourMomsBox3D
Not to use it as a gauge of how good/poor a film is, but as a counter to haters like this that use blind logic and non-facts just to make their shitty view hold water. Surely, you don't matriculate with the same public as I, which has been responsible for advance ticket sales selling out left and right. I wonder what you guys will use to justify your stance when this opens to the tune of $125 million.
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...some of your comments don't make any sense, or make you come across as completely clueless. Case in point: "THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN does something almost unheard of in the superhero arena: it treats its relationships with reverence." Really? Have you watched any of the Marvel superhero movies lately? For example, all three of Raimi's SM movies did that (#1, MJ/Parker, Parker/Harry, Harry/Dad, Parker/Aunt May #2, Parker/Doc Oc, Doc Oc/Mrs. Doc Oc #3 Parker/MJ, etc.). And we haven't started discussing Iron Man, Thor or the Avengers (let alone the Hulk reboot). And do I need to bring up the Batman films? The reason Marvel SH films have transcended the "funny book" collar is because they ARE more personal, and deal with the human relationships - not "POW! BAM!" exclusively. I understand you want to get behind the Twilight remake of Spidey, but c'mon dude.
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So ridiculous that they rebooted this all the way back to Peter Parker's origin story. DO NOT WANT
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June 27, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST
The Marvel universe, sp. in regards to Spiderman, was the blessing and curse of your regular schmo gaining incredible powers and how it affects their personal life.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
So I get it. And I get the idea of hiring Webb. But the main question is...do we really need this film?
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June 27, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST
So, Gwen Stacy Story means we'll be seeing the Goblin again?
by SergeantStedenko
F*CK YOU, SONY!!! THE RHINO!!! FTW!!!
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June 27, 2012, 10:37 a.m. CST
So, Gwen Stacy Story means we'll be seeing the Goblin again?
by SergeantStedenko
F*CK YOU, SONY!!! THE RHINO!!! FTW!!!
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June 27, 2012, 10:40 a.m. CST
How about changing it so that it's the Rhino that kills Gwen Stacy?
by SergeantStedenko
He impales her on his horn and then trots around the city with her dead naked body hanging from his head. HOW BADASS WOULD THAT BE?!!! Who's with me?!
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Please fuck off with that shit. Do we really need any movie? knob
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June 27, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST
Actually, I don't see the full Green Goblin/Gwen Stacy arc coming until the third film....
by YourMomsBox3D
Stone is signed on for two sequels. I could totally see them going the Elektro, Rhino or even Proto-Goblin route for part 2 to be the main antagonist, and begin setting up Norman for a full on Green Goblin turn to close out a trilogy arc.
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June 27, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST
Capone, a second Spiderman related thread has disappeared, twice about a Spider-Man screening, why?
by Franck
In the meantime, AICN threads about Spidey keep appearing under various excuses. Not a big conspiracy theory hating troll, but I have to ask: WTF?
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yeah, lots. this one? nope. if it was by marvel studios and set in the cinematic universe, no problem, i'd love it. but a reboot by the same fucking tools who ran the last series into the ground? fuck off.
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June 27, 2012, 10:53 a.m. CST
Every clip has looked terrible and they've released 1/4 of the movie in clips
by Rupee88
I know there is some paid endorsements going on and this TB is full of plants. If you pay to go see this and you are not happy, then you have gotten what you deserve. But people are dumb and they paid to see Transformers 3 and Wrath of the Titans. This will make a huge profit even if it sucks because people aren't smart enough to realize the obvious.
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June 27, 2012, 10:58 a.m. CST
That's not a review, that's a love letter to a film. I had written this film off, until I read Capone's letter.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Nothing visually released has been compelling to me, but that shit doesn't matter. Story matters. Capone claims this has a great story. Maybe I will buy a ticket after all. I sure as Hell wasn't planning on it.
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I have supported this film since day one, as soon as I heard Mark Webb was Directing and them Andrew Garcield was cast. Eat it Haters.
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Interesting review.
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So Capone goes for the "I know you are but what am I" defense. But Capone...the challenge was not thrown down for the other critics out there. The challenge was thrown down for the AICN reviewers. And I agree with what thx is saying. It would be refreshing if AICN would actually be able to review this movie on its own merits without comparing it to another director's vision of Spider-Man. It would be more refreshing if all critics could do the same and not refer to Raimi...but you are overlooking one thing.... .... We are not reading the other critics. We are reading YOUR review and the other reviews on AICN. That being said...here are a few things I can almost be sure of... 1) Raven will most likely not like part of the movie. 2) Massawyrm will probably think it rocks, but will pick on something that bothers him in a big way. 3) Quint will most likely give a very in depth review of the movie and will be the most balanced. 4) Harry's review will suck at the teat of the studios so he doesn't burn any bridges and hurt his insider (who used to be an outsider) access. In addition he will talk about himself endlessly in the review because everything is more about Harry than the movie or person he is reviewing. and we have already heard from you. -- End of Line --
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June 27, 2012, 11:12 a.m. CST
@thx1968 A better challenge...Harry not talking about himself...
by MasterControlProgram
Your Non-Raimi challenge is valid, but a tougher challenge would be to have Harry write a review without talking about himself at all. -- End of Line --
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June 27, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST
"But Webb the elder Parkers, as played by Sally Field and Martin Sheen."
by shane peterson
LOL! Capone?
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June 27, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST
"The way Raimi treated the relationship between Peter and his Aunt May and Uncle Ben always seemed like a pesky afterthought"
by john
What the fuck are you talking about, capone?!?!?! These relationships were the heart and soul of the first two films. The moments between Uncle Ben and Peter in the first and the moments with Aunt may in the second and even third, made the films what they were. even if you weren't buying them, it was clear that it was Raimi's intention. You don't have to shit on the other films (especially when unwarrented) just to praise the new one.
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June 27, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST
Gonna be hard to top Kirsten Dunst's nipples in this one...
by DickBallsworth
Oh yes.
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June 27, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST
Harry's review will no doubt be a spit-on-your-dick, pepper-grinding blowjob.
by YourMomsBox3D
Even the people who have high hopes for this movie will take whatever Harry says with a grain of salt. I am waiting for him to update his Facebook account with a profile picture that showcases his shiny new Webshooter replicas.
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June 27, 2012, 11:49 a.m. CST
dickball, I hear there is an Emma Stone camel-toe shot in this
by SergeantStedenko
And those are some plump juicy moose knuckles.
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June 27, 2012, 11:50 a.m. CST
Read the review on Twitchfilm for an honest view of this useless movie.
by HelveticaConspiracy
Capone is obviously a bought for plant. Sony wined & dined this dude to such a point that they could've shown him Elektra and he would've called it the best comic book movie of all time. Read the non-paid for reviews and you'll get a clear picture of what a pile of waste this movie is. And, to the guy who said Hollywood Reporter & Variety couldn't be bought for: You know nothing. Those are industry rags thru & thru. They're the epitome of untrustworthy. Their 'reporters' are just PR shills. Sony KNOWS they've got a pile of crap on their hands which is why they're buying any critic they can, paying for plants in every comments section they can find & releasing nearly 25% of the movie online. Rotten Tomatoes for 'Amazing' 'Spiderman' is plummeting faster than a bad stock. Turns out, all the 'haters' were right on the money. And, for those who say 'nerds' will automatically go see ANY Spiderman movie: You're thinking of mindless idiots who can't think for themselves. You're not thinking of nerds. Nerds are opinionated as hell, and they won't give dime one to just ANY ol' thing that slaps a beloved name on the cover. I'll watch in smug satisfaction as this movie tanks @ the BO.
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Flickapoo, hey dude! Yes I too would like to bring back bringingsexyback. I saw YOUR HIGHNESS a couple of nights ago, which featured Zooey Deschanel in a wonderbra. I hope BSB is still alive, because if he's met a fatal accident and died without one last chance to choke his chicken over Zooey's cleavage then the world would seem like an unfair place.
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Speaking of chicken choking where the hell is THE CHOPPAH??? Legend says that he will come back to aicn when the night is darkest. Other legend says that he will only cum on fudgepack friday (he likes to build up the reservoir before unleashing the flood).
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He promised.
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did your expedition descend into madness and cannibalism? Did you sample the aromatic, snow-washed flesh of the Eskimo wives? Did you reach the northern lights?
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I think I was the first to get it right.
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June 27, 2012, 12:16 p.m. CST
"81 on rottentomatoes. No wait, 76. 84. 88. 72...My team's winning!"
by P
Fucking losers.
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June 27, 2012, 12:17 p.m. CST
flickapoo, I was the first to decode Harry's gibberish
by SergeantStedenko
And it's 5 whores.
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June 27, 2012, 12:18 p.m. CST
Most of my favourite spidey stories don't involve Peter Parker, or there are Peter Parker scenes just to offer some variety and pacing, but the bulk of the story is SPIDER-MAN
by Autodidact
They should really spend less on these movies and go with tighter, more action-y stories. Action doesn't have to mean massively expensive CGI-enhanced set-pieces. I could watch Spider-Man jump over trucks and walk up walls and swing from skyscrapers all day. Just have a movie with lots of that for fuck's sake!
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June 27, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST
"I'll watch in smug satisfaction as this movie tanks @ the BO."
by master_of_realty
Surely even the miserable fucks who hate the movie before they've even seen it don't think this isn't gonna make a zillion dollars, right? You can't be that big of an idiot? Right??
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June 27, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST
I'd be willing to split the whores with dedrek since his answer was more in-depth
by SergeantStedenko
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June 27, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST
Sergeant, I believe the Choppahpotamus is good for it, but I gotta warn you...
by FlickaPoo
his taste in whores is pretty gamey.
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June 27, 2012, 12:37 p.m. CST
autodidact -I agree but that would require they don't get their major influence
by Samuel Fulmer
From the Stan Lee era. The whole out of the suit melodrama thing was preaty much Spidey up until the mid-70's. If they wanted to do dark brooding Spidey they should'a went for Kraven's Last Hunt followed by a real balls to the Wall Lizard story, Torment!
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I'd like Chris Claremont/Jim Lee era epic action in tone, but we mostly get the Stan Lee era metaphor for downtrodden social groups shoved down our throats, probably due a lot to the film makers own personal lives than making a good/enjoyable X-Men film, even though the last one was good, poorly done metaphors notwithstanding.
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But It's going to probably do around 300 million domestic, especially with Dark Kight Rises coming out weeks later. I'm sure overseas it'll do "Amazing" since those cultured people supported stuff like Battleshit.
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Yeah, I said it.
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June 27, 2012, 12:46 p.m. CST
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/review-the-amazing-spider-man-is-neither-amazing-nor-new
by Rupee88
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/review-the-amazing-spider-man-is-neither-amazing-nor-new
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Flicka, the aurora remains on my hit list - I think its going to be a winter journey when the nights are darkest. Just got back from Espana though where I chowed down on much Chorizo and rode what has to be the SCARIEST water tube ever built. Im pretty good with heights but man that fucker was big. I nearly turned the pool at the bottom brown.
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Yeah, I especially like the bits where Capone says "Webb's relationship-heavy take on the life of young Peter Parker [...] treats its relationships with reverence. [...] But THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN's accomplishments don't end with the love story..." It doesn't sound like 'The Amazing Spider-Man' to me. It sounds more like the relationship-heavy take on 'Spider-Man' for girls, 'Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane', which lasted a whole 20 issues. (Apparently, the whole Spider-Man-As-Love-Story-For-Girls thing didn't fly off the shelves quite like Regular-Spider-Man-For-Boys.) In other words, this sounds like hot liquid shit. Enjoy your 'Spider-Man Loves Gwen', girls.
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I cant recall a blockbuster this year actually getting reviewed a week prior to release on AICN.
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Capone: And yes, I know the death of Uncle Ben has always been partly Peter's fault, but the version of that pivotal moment here is so much more tragic. Drew: For example, one of the cornerstones of the Spider-Man story involves the death of his Uncle Ben and the events that lead up to that moment. It's one of the easiest elements of the story to get right, and somehow, in trying to find a new way to do it, this movie totally fumbles the beat. Poorly conceived and poorly staged, it's an emotional zero, a moment that should serve as the thing that motivates everything else Peter does on his journey. Instead, it just happens with no real weight, and the film would be essentially the same with or without the scene. That's just one glaring example of the differences in these two "Geek" reviews. I'm hoping Capone is closer to the reaction I'll have. (I won't say closer to the truth, because how can anyone's opinion not be the truth?). I get what Capone is saying about the relationships being brought more to the forefront. I wasn't quite eight years old when I read SpiderMan 121 & 122, and they hit me like a punch to the gut (not to mention having to wait a month between issues). Yes, Raimi covered the relationship between MJ and Peter fairly strongly, but it still seemed like an add on to get you to care about MJ's fate during the fight scenes. The best stories make you want those fight scenes because you are totally involved in the character relationships. So maybe Webb made a "Spiderman for girls" (or for romantics), I'm still betting there's plenty of heroics for us guys. and i don't mind watching emma Stone in mini-skirts and go-go boots.
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June 27, 2012, 1:01 p.m. CST
I kind of wish movie studios would pit their movies against each other like tv stations do.
by SergeantStedenko
Imagine The Amazing Spiderman vs. The Dark Knight Rises. Who would come out on top. Would one crush the other are would they share the Box Office.
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I too was guarded about the re-boot idea. But I guess they had to since they recast and tweaked Peter's story significantly. It's looking like one hell of a good time at the movies! It's a GREAT time for those of us who grew up collecting comics and dreaming of big screen treatments of our favorite heroes. I can still vividly remember going to see Superman:The Movie and getting blown away. It's been a great ride ever since!
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Lets we forget, TDKR is part of a reboot, too--one that has VASTLY outperformed the original Batman series on absolutely every level. So challenging Webb's Spidey for that reason is nonsense. I never loved the Raimi movies, and never bought into TM as PP, and Garfield is a very, very good actor who's been challenged here in a way we have not yet seen him be challenged. There are a lot of good ingredients here. Deciding not to see this movie at this time, IF you are a Spidey fan, seems silly to me. You know you'll plunk down for it.
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June 27, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST
I gotta say, maybe it's Garfield's wirey frame, but I think this is the coolest Spidey has ever looked. With the exception of The Chinese Web of course.
by AzulTool
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Full meh.
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...the more I'm digging it. I watched that 25 minute fan-made 'preview' and was shocked at how much I liked Garfield's take on Parker. I mean, you actually LIKE the kid. He's not nearly as 'nerdy' as he is quiet and intelligent and a bit guarded or haunted and that's probably going to make the fanboys cry, but it's really cool. Emma Stone's Gwen is wonderful. You can see how Peter (or anyone, really) would fall for her. I mean, hell, it's Emma Stone.
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June 27, 2012, 1:15 p.m. CST
Sorry, but does anyone writing for AIC proof their articles? Its become a problem. Things are difficult to read. Please have a heart.
by MichaelH
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SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE was an awesome, awesome book. I say that as a completely straight chick-lovin' 39 year-old man.
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June 27, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST
Does anyone have any Mt. Dew Dark Knight codes, so I don't have to drink that fucking piss?
by AzulTool
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Children...
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June 27, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST
I can't wait for someone to say there was "too much talking."
by master_of_realty
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June 27, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST
*Amazing Spider-man does'nt have him climbing a mountain in Bhutan with roaring Hans Zimmer music
by AL Green
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June 27, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
that i know of though the first trailer looked like this would be a darker take
by AL Green
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June 27, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST
Now nerds here are calling people from overseas "swine"?
by quicksilver80
I thought the bar couldn't be set any lower in these TB's...stay classy, asshats
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This ranges from ok to fucking shit.
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June 27, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST
I'll bet you once you get over the reboot concept The Amazing Spider-Man in time will be droves better than THe Avengers
by AL Green
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June 27, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
they are borrowing heavily from the Ultimate Spiderman comics and..
by sunwukong86
in that Gwen is a science experiment that eventually becomes Carnage.
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This movie looks like good fun and I hope it is as good as The Avengers, but something tells me it won't be - not many are. That one is a rarity, something special.
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Capone's review is spot on. The movie is excellent. The acting by Garfield and Stone is excellent. The action is plentiful and well-done, but the movie also has real heart and emotion. I was a fan of Raimi 1 and 2 (especially 2!), but liking this new movie doesn't take away from those films -- and liking those movies doesn't mean you can't enjoy Amazing Spider-Man. We've all seen Spidey's origin a gajillion times, so what? This has enough really interesting twists to the premise that the film becomes its own thing and even someone who knows the origin can become absorbed in this re-telling. Very highly recommended.
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Why don't you fucking watch it first and maybe, JUST MAYBE, you'll like it done this way too. Step outside of your nerd bubble! Normal people who don't care if it is just. like. the comics. want to see it too. We just care if it's a good movie. But your biggest problem seems to be that there's a romance, which says more about you that the film.
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Just can't muster the enthusiasm to see this. Had there been a decade between the last film before the reboot I'd probably be a bit more excited it but I'm perfectly fine waiting for the eventual blu-ray release. I'm not opposed to a reboot but I wasn't eagerly anticipating one either. Will it do well? Sure. Will it do Avengers like business? Unlikely. It probably won't even do Spider-Man 3 like business (almost $900 million worldwide in 2007 without 3D dollars boosting the box office take) so it'll be interesting to see just how much cash it can grab before The Dark Knight Rises dominates. So, yeah, many will love it but I'm in no rush to see it.
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So many obvious plants (thot, pabodie, etc) in here. You can just feel the nervous energy from the Sony suits. Look at all the venom (pun intended) being spewed @ this movie! And, listen to all the plants trying to stem the tide! "It looks like one hell of a great time at the movies!"; "It's a GREAT time for us comic book collectors, who dreamed of our favorite heroes getting the big-screen treatment!"; "I, too, was guarded about the re-boot, but now my Sony overlords have re-programmed my brain, and now I LOVE the new Spiderman!"; "Hey, fellow nerds, let's all just be happy that Sony has seen fit to give us low-lifes the PRIVELEGE of having a new Spiderman movie, regardless of its quality or awfulness of it's main actors! It's Spiderman for GOSH sakes, he swings and makes goofy jokes about SMALL KNIVES! What more do we need?!". I, for one, am not buying any of this dreck. If you really read all the reviews: This movie is garbage. Angsty teen melodrama, with a forced romance, an unnecessary and convoluted origin story that goes nowhere and a paint by the numbers villain. Suckers.
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June 27, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST
This looks much more like Spider-Man than the Rami flicks ever did.
by Mike Soiseth
I dont mind seeing a re-boot as long as the re-boot is true to the source material and is a better all around story. I like Rami's spidey alright, but it was never really Spiderman, just as the older Batman films were never really batman. The CGI spidey flying through the city in Ramis films look just like the computer game image they were. Lame.
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I'll just have to pay my bucks and make up my own mind.
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Fucking sick of 'em. Give me something new. Roll on LOOPER, only flippin' thing I have slightest interest in at the moment. Fuck spiderman Fuck batman Fuck the avengers Fuck everyone Ryan Reynolds plays Fuck it
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While I always suspected this site was more or less a PR venue for studios, the way this particular movie has been "covered" on AICN over the last year or so has convinced me that it is. The way it and posters gush over this movie without any hesitancy or cautious reservations is beyond fanboy, unless what they are a fan of is some kind of studio payola.
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June 27, 2012, 3:24 p.m. CST
"The way it and posters gush over this movie without any hesitancy or cautious reservations"
by seymour_scagnetti
This is sarcasm right? Have you read these threads?
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Uncle Ben's death was the most frustrating, wasted moment, but everything about the film is jacked from the get go. Trying to tie the tangled threads of all these people's lives together killed the narrative - the most important thread. It was a very curious experience, this film. I never got taken into it, I just kept asking myself, "Why the fuck did they do that?" I wasn't disappointed, because I never expected anything from this film - ever. Because of the way it got off the ground, it is the exact film it should be. I won't say that I'm clairvoyant enough to have predicted the state of this movie, but all the signs were there to the folks who care about this franchise. McWeeny's best point is that this film is made by the same producers as the the last three, and producers always have some sort of agenda or brilliant notion. Not this time. The name of this game is reboot, effectively neutering "the new guys" coming in to work on this gigantic property. Hopefully, the super powers of cinema that be will now forever banish the archaic practice of reboots to the ages.
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June 27, 2012, 3:28 p.m. CST
I see the same bad-mouthing handles. Over and over again. In every single Amazing Spider-Man talkback. If you don
by YourMomsBox3D
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June 27, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST
If you don't want to see the film, why waste your time here? We get it. You've voiced your opinion. Why not move on and let those that care about, and want to see the movie discuss it?
by YourMomsBox3D
Surely you have better things to do.
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June 27, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST
Buckethead: You get one reply, troll. I won't be drawn into a spamming back and forth like the one you caused yesterday in the other Spidey talkback.
by YourMomsBox3D
In short, go jerk off to your mother while sitting on your father's dildo. You lonely, pathetic sad sack of shit. Kill yourself, but murder everyone in your immediate family first, so that they cannot create any more like you.
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...He used to write as "Moriarty" here at AICN. His take is much more realistic and less self-imposed marketing for the studio which AICN has become known for much more since his exit. Added Bonus: Harry can't sabotage his review with a six paragraph "opening" basically demolishing his opinions like Harry did for his PHANTOM MENANCE review.
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June 27, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST
I have read the threads and many like them over the past year.
by Ingeld
Interlarded with posters wondering about the movie and questioning it are numerous brief posters who in a line or two hit the same notes suggesting a subtle by concerted effort to promote. 1. Hyperbolic expression of how amazing this looks. (Well it looks interesting, but nothing about it looks amazing. I keep wondering if they are looking at the same trailers that I am.) 2. How much better it is going to be than Raimi's. (Aside from SP III, one and especially two set the bar high for superhero movies. Ebert in his review said it was perhaps the greatest superhero movie ever. It seems like a calculated effort to promote this movie by fomenting dissatisfaction with movies that were by most measures excellent.) followed by a, 3. Hey, I think I am going to give it a try. (An appeal to sheep mentality. The hoped for effect is that people will begin to bleat this line for themselves and others. Oddly enough the subtly crafted bit of hesitancy in this line contradicts how much they usually just gushed over the trailer.)
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i'm tired of all the crap this movie has taken around here. Naturally you'll get the ridiculous cries of "plant!" but I think you just gave us your honest assessment. Personally, I'm really looking forward to this. Probably see it Tuesday (for the first time :).
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June 27, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST
Somebody above dropped the line: "Yes, sir, the check is in the mail."
by Ted Knight
Awesome, let's talk about Big Trouble in Little China instead.
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I think Andrew Garfield looks like he might well be nailing the part, unlike that slow witted moron we got in Tobey MacGuires portrayal! Can't wait to see this. Thanks for the review Capone!
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June 27, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
Newsflash, nerds: it's possible to like two versions of something
by seymour_scagnetti
It's always "love one thing, hate the other thing" whether it's two Spider-Man movies or two video game consoles or two flavors of Mountain Dew and it's getting sooo tired. Get on some fucking meds!
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June 27, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST
I'm not fond of the embellishment of the significance of Peter's parents
by The Krypton Kid
They weren't important in the comic. Peter's parents are effectively Aunt May and Uncle Ben and he doesn't have any angst about his biological parents' early demise. The need to make them a larger presence than they actually are is very untrue to Pete's story.
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June 27, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST
Only a Plant would bring McWeeney into this , reverse psychology to see the movie
by AL Green
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Best handle i've seen on here for a while.
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Not another CGI monster.
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Never heard of this theory. If it is named after Neil Gaiman then it must be ironic. Have you seen Beowulf?
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Haven't seen this much foliage since I watched that documentary on the Amazon. Right off the bat, anyone that claims this "Looks Amazing" is either a plant or someone trolling to look like one. I try to make allowances for individual variances in taste but anyone that could watch these same trailers I'm seeing and think "Amazing" must be the kind of person that could read the ingredient label on a can of Spam and refer to it as "Riveting".
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I'm bothered by this in the negative reviews. It's all "too soon" and "Why was there a need for a reboot". But that makes me discount those reviews because they are obviously prejudiced going in. Is it a good movie on its own merits or isn't it? It doesn't matter if it's a reboot. The comics have "rebooted" the story of Spider-Man incessantly ... it's par for the course for the origin of Spider-Man to be rehashed at least once a year, at least in flashbacks, to keep new audience members up to speed. And every few years the comics would rehash old story elements, like Aunt May getting sick and Peter having to scramble to pay for her treatment. (that old broad has survived more near-fatal diseases than anyone on the planet). It's the movies. You can't expect movies to tell a consistent, coherent story over the long haul, all you can do is hope they'll tell a decent story for one film. If you are all butt-hurt that the previous trilogies ambitions to be more than three films was stymied by this reboot ... it's Hollywood, it's the movies, that's how it's done. Forget about that and ask if some sort of creativity, some personal spark of storytelling managed to be injected into this film. I'm hearing a lot of bitching about how this film is the product of soulless corporate decisions. Well, guess what, so were the Raimi films. In fact, despite studio demanded story elements, Spider-Man 3 was the LEAST soulless and studio imprinted one of the three, it had MORE of Raimi's personal mark on it than the other two, and guess what ... THAT'S THE ONE EVERYONE HATED.
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June 27, 2012, 5:23 p.m. CST
So now we can't even read SPAM labels in our spare time? I am so sick of this. Those things are riveting.
by YourMomsBox3D
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Mostly I refer to the Spidey Webslinging shots. That's really what I go to a Spidey movie to see, call me simple if you will. But I'm not a "plant"
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June 27, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST
buckethead50, then I have lost a little more respect for Gaiman.
by Ingeld
Essentially he trusts comic book writers for their plotting or characterization when translating a story to film, but not time less poets. Beowulf the film thumbed its nose at the great epic.
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had no hand in changing the text from an epic to a tragedy. If he wrote anything after the first ten minutes of the movie then he didn't trust his source.
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June 27, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
buckethead, you are one pitiful, sweaty, joyless sack of shit
by seymour_scagnetti
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Just read the first post if you don't believe it. billcom said "Seriously can't wait to see this. Was already all in, and this review just added to it. Can't wait to see Gwen Stacy and Peter Parker in love on screen." What real person (or fanboy) says something like that? It's sad that the integrity of the talkbacks is being compromised by Sony propaganda. I won't pay to see this and support them or their crappy film. I can't wait to see this underperform.
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yes you are probably just some loser intern... not even getting minimum wage. ..what a pathetic life you have.
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Ive got serious doubts like most people, but I'll go and see it (cos I get it for free) and then make my own judgement, however I'm a bit disturbed by the untold story not actually being told which is bullshit and very off putting.
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June 27, 2012, 8:13 p.m. CST
My opinion, in brief: "well, it's better than Spider-Man 3"...
by Stegman84
Basically, a passable, if unspectacular, remake. Yes, it does feel overly familiar, like we're just going through the same old story slightly tweaked. No, it isn't better than Raimi's first so-so effort, or worse, just a different taste of mediocrity. This isn't the pleasant surprise of X-Men: First Class, it's more the realisation of Norton's Incredible Hulk that while it is shooting for the populist crowd, somewhere along the line they forgot to make it all that enjoyable to watch, as such entertainments are meant to be. And the drama is so cookie cutter that it is never elevated above what feels like a paint by numbers approach to film-making. You get neither the pure popcorn fun of an Avengers nor the tense drama of a Nolan Batman with this, instead you get a very stereotypical 'studio' tentpole film, one that takes no risks, and offers little reward. The best thing I can say about it is that it is competent. It isn't a disaster by any means, the actors are solid without being standouts, the script is passable without being either embarrassing or surprising in any way, and overall as a film it just feels a bit pointless, like the end result wasn't really worth the effort. Walking away from it, this just feels like the wrong film at the wrong time, both because it is a remake too soon with not enough to differentiate itself, and because most of us expect more from our superhero flicks than what is on display here. It's got that Superman Returns factor, where the makers seem stuck in a past that the audiences have moved on from already. It'll make money, no doubt, but I don't know how many people will feel truly satisfied by this one. And Garfield, in my opinion, gives a solid performance overall, but just doesn't have the Spidey charisma required, so he often seems a bit forced or 'try hard' in the suit. My rambling take anyhow.
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well said...everything you say makes sense and also seems genuine
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June 27, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST
You are right, Harry's Obit for Nora Ephron had nothing to do with Ephron...everything to do with Harry.
by MasterControlProgram
You are right. The obit had nothing to do with the resume or life of Ephron. It had everything to do with Harry and his family. Big frickin' whoop. She rented some posters from you and that money helped your father out of a legal jam. It's not like she gave the the money to cover his legal bills, it just happened to be the money that he needed. What a self-righteous jack hole. -- End of Line --
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http://obnoxiousandanonymous.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/the-amazing-spider-man-opens-on-july-3-2012/
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As was pretty much every movie before it came out according to the bitter losers who infest these boards. I've been around AICN so long, I remember people bitching about Raimi ruining SM with organic webshooters, now that film is generally treated with reverence. Give a damn movie a chance before passing judgement.
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June 27, 2012, 8:51 p.m. CST
Remember the time in the '89 version when Batman fought the Joker on a rooftop? Yeah, well he fights him again on a rooftop in The Dark Knight. Lazy writing.
by YourMomsBox3D
Sorry Buckethead. Couldn't resist.
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Just grabbed a Diet Dr.Pepper from my in-laws' garage fridge and immediately spit out my foul, metallic tasting first sip. The can read, "Spider-Man 2: Now in Theaters."
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Too soon. Sorry. Meh.
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I like how it avoids topics like... Shitty CGI... Horrible looking Lizard and corny "comedy moments". Instead it's obviously written as some fluff piece to lure tweens into this movie. Leaked reviews(minus this one) have been rather negative. I don't buy anything this review is pushing. It looks like utter shit. Explain why it is fun to watch a studio/filmmaker just shit all over a franchise? None of this sounds like a Spider-man film. Mind you Spider-man 3 was terrible but I blame the studio for that. This one sounds like Twilight trying to be a Spider-man film. Also seems like they completely got Connors and the Lizard wrong. Sorry but these bull shit fluff pieces won't trick me. Will I see it in theaters? Yeah for sure... After I pay for a ticket for Brave and sneak into it. These clowns won't get my cash.
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June 27, 2012, 10:16 p.m. CST
Hysterical. "Will I see this in the theater? Yeah for sure. But I'll pay for Brave and sneak in." Go 'head, 13-year old from 1950. Snag yourself a pack of Blackjack gum while Buddy Holly aint lookin too.
by YourMomsBox3D
Fucking Dirtball.
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So Disney is getting your money instead of Sony...I don't know if that's much better. At least buy a ticket for Avengers and go see AMS if you must. And just bring the 3D glasses from the last movie you saw. I have about 5 of them and never pay for 3D now.
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He's been in every single Amazing Spider Man talkback, badmouthing everything and trying to point out some pointless similarity about this vs the Raimi movies, and calling anyone who seems genuinely excited about it "a plant". If anyone is a plant, I would bet he works for Warner, and is out to bad mouth ASM so that people will try and remember to go see that depressing looking final Batman movie that most people seem to have little interest in lately. Oh, and anyone who claims this movie is following the Ultimate Universe Spider Man, obviously has never read it. For that matter, hasn't read it of late either, or the Amazing Spider Man in this movie would be very young black teen named Miles Morales.
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He's been in every single Amazing Spider Man talkback, badmouthing everything and trying to point out some pointless similarity about this vs the Raimi movies, and calling anyone who seems genuinely excited about it "a plant". If anyone is a plant, I would bet he works for Warner, and is out to bad mouth ASM so that people will try and remember to go see that depressing looking final Batman movie that most people seem to have little interest in lately. Oh, and anyone who claims this movie is following the Ultimate Universe Spider Man, obviously has never read it. For that matter, hasn't read it of late either, or the Amazing Spider Man in this movie would be very young black teen named Miles Morales.
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Posting on these boards is just a deeply depressing experience. Amazing Spider Man is not a perfect movie but it is pretty good and it is far far better than it has any right to be. I suppose its unfair to assume that most of the posters here are American but if it is the case then I despair for the future of your country and your education system. You have some kind of sense of entitlement without earning it or having any evidence to back up your shallow negative opinions. You wallow in your prejudgements and then make up "facts" to justify them America the country that brought us Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Bob Dylan, Frank Capra, F Scott Fitzgerald, Mohammed Ali, Mel Brooks and so many of my Heroes. Fuck it, im going to watch Spiderman again on Saturday and forget about you sad sacks of shit. Enjoy Fox News. And now I have reduced myself to the same level as you. Ugh.
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June 27, 2012, 11:40 p.m. CST
"It's sad that the integrity of the talkbacks is being compromised by Sony propaganda."
by Eli_Cash
Rupee88, I agree. It's not just the unusual number of plants in ASM talkbacks that is disturbing. Their level of aggression is unprecedented as well. They become outright hostile toward anyone expressing a negative opinion, not just on AICN but other review sites as well. Check out the comments on the IGN boards. This is a blatant attempt by a movie studio to destroy honest discussion. It's sickening. That's one reason why I'm militant that we need to boycott this movie. At least in the theaters. Don't go see it in theaters, and definitely don't go see it on opening weekend. If sony is going to behave in a way that is so obviously unethical, then they deserve to fail. Plus the movie looks like shit, and I don't want to see this spiderman get any sequels.
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June 27, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST
I will say the idea of reboots as early as this one disturbs me
by D.Vader
I don't care how great the movie is, just the idea of a studio saying "Thanks for all the work you've done, now fuck off, we're starting over," rubs me the wrong way. That's all.
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that way when ever I review a film everyone can say PLANT!!!
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June 28, 2012, midnight CST
Some of you should either join up with Jesse Ventura. Or, seek medication.
by YourMomsBox3D
You are taking people who want to SEE a SPIDER-MAN movie, and posting their anticipation on a website that is dedicated to comic-book movies, and turning them into conspiracy-theory fodder. Fucking go do studies on thermite paint and the Illuminati. Or go visit your healthcare provider and obtain a Klonopin prescription.
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Yes you said it better than I did...very well said and will even quote you here: "This is a blatant attempt by a movie studio to destroy honest discussion. It's sickening. That's one reason why I'm militant that we need to boycott this movie. At least in the theaters. Don't go see it in theaters, and definitely don't go see it on opening weekend. If sony is going to behave in a way that is so obviously unethical, then they deserve to fail."
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June 28, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST
Yeesh. Buckethead. You are the worst kind of asshole! (Read on, dicknose)
by YourMomsBox3D
Not that it matters, but I am not a plant. I have been posting here for quite a while. Years, in fact. Long before this movie even came down the pipeline. Yourmomsbox3D is my third handle, after being banned twice. I was Yourmomsbox and Yourmomsboxreturns. Ironically, my first banning came after I went after Harry for his blind enthusiasm for this very film. Look it up. Search the article that has when Garfield was first announced as the new Spidey, and Harry called this film "The Spider-Man we have been waiting for." I fucking went after him in those talkbacks to the point of being BANNED. And I don't even care for Raimi's trilogy, save for Spider-Man 2. Check it out. Of course, all of my posts are deleted due to the banning or whatever they do here that make posts disappear, but you can see Harry replying to me by name a couple of times trying to defend himself, and other talkbackers stepping up to call him out on his bullshit and back me up once he started to backpeddle. I am just a guy that likes the look of this Spider-Man movie. That's all. The proof is in the pudding. Sorry to break down your incessant need for a fourth wall, but I am not pulling any strings behind the scenes, nor am I paid by Sony to generate good will towards TASM.
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June 28, 2012, 12:39 a.m. CST
Why would a studio put its people on a message board?
by seymour_scagnetti
To advertise to a small base that's gonna go see it anyway? (yes even you crybaby bullshitters will be in a theater seat.) You think a multi-national corporation is afraid of you. ha. Get over yourselves, psychos.
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June 28, 2012, 1:22 a.m. CST
I came back here to re-read Capone's review because it's pretty fucking awesome...
by Jack
And here is buckethead 50 fighting his war against "plants" again. Mate, I want you to remember another war. A war that you and me fought together. The war of the Marvel fans against the Nolanites trying to trash The Avengers. Do you remember that? Let me refresh your memory: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55354 And pretty much all the other reviews over The Avengers on this website. You, me and another few dudes against the Nolanites army like they were Chitauris and we were the AICN's fucking Avengers. Do you remember that? I won't even bother to read the argument you're having with this supposed so called plant. But you also called me plant once, because I'm completely fucking psyched for The Amazing Spider-Man. I hope you also remember that. Dude. I know that you are a HUGE Marvel fan. I can see my kind from MILES away. And I think I know what is your endgame here. You're badmouthing this in hopes that Spidey would go back to Marvel. Man, the cat is out of the bag regarding this movie's quality, I've talked with people that I've mad trust, people that I personally know, movie critics that I trust and they love this film to death. I've talked with people that KNOW their Spider-Man, and this is the Spider-Man that we've waiting for since God knows fucking when. I get what you're going for, but understand, the chances of what you want happening is zero. What we CAN get and I'm rooting for it is Marvel, Disney and Sony finding an agreement over the use of Spidey in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I know that you're a good dude, mate. And that's why I've took my time to write you this. Not everything is a conspiracy. There are actual real Spider-Fans and I know for SURE that you are one too. I know that you may be mad at people actually willing to give this a chance because it doesn't go according with what you hope for, I just wanted you to know that we've fought bravely against the Nolanites and the good film won. The Amazing Spider-Man is fighting the same fucking war and if it is the film that my friends fell in love with - and they KNOW their Spider-Man as much as you, Capone and me do - we are in for the start of the best iteration of the character ever in the big screen. I hope to fight along side you again, mate. And I also hope that you've the time of your life when you watch The Amazing Spider-Man and that, hopefully, in The Avengers 2, Spidey will be there wisecracking against Iron Man and that film will make 3 fucking billions of dollars. See ya.
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June 28, 2012, 1:40 a.m. CST
What lines? "I like Spider-Man", or "Read on dicknose"?
by YourMomsBox3D
If I forgot my password, that wouldn't explain my deleted posts, stupid. Let it go. Not that I expected you to man up and admit fault anyway.
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...you guys are fucked either way. If you like a movie, half of the assholes in the TB shout about all your presents from the studios, and if you had disliked the same movie, then the same assholes would should about how you didn't get presents from the studios. And then you're sure to adend clever zingers like: 'it's pretty common knowledge that they get bought by the studios' - 'i think we can all agree they're nothing but studio shills' - 'i'm an asshole troll whose secret disdain for myself is the only thing sadder than my disdain for everything else!' Thank you AICN Crew for providing passionate and varied opinions on films. The vast majority of us (who are regrettably not as obnoxiously vocal) appreciate all you guys do!
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As long as you keep talking to Asshat Magee, he wins.
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June 28, 2012, 1:54 a.m. CST
Hah. You can block all the 'plants' by adjusting your tinfoil hats.
by hadrion
Fairly sure most are just trolling fans by calling them plants tho. No way non-trolling TBers are that ridiculously paranoid, and think this TB is of any actual importance to Sony.
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I hate cabin in the woods and still haven't seen the other two movies you mentioned. Other than that, agreed 100%.
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The retarded rivalry between avengers and DKR fans has nothing to do with the hatred of this movie. The only one trying to make the connection is you, you fucking plant. Just a cheap attempt to ride on the coat tail of the Avengers.
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Somehow I just missed it I guess. I personally have never gotten into an argument with a plant until it happened on a talkback for ASM a few months ago. Ever since then I've been paying closer attention, but I still haven't seen the same level of propaganda in other movie discussion threads. I dunno. This just seems a lot worse to me.
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June 28, 2012, 3:02 a.m. CST
I would be suspect of any talkbacker that heaps praise on this review
by American Mythos
I love Capone, but this review is barely literate. I think you should've gotten a little more sleep before writing it. Plus, some of the points you make are a little off, as others have pointed out. I never felt that Raimi treated the relationships in his films with anything BUT reverence. Sure, a lot of the interactions were cheesey, but they gave Spider-Man its own spirit, apart from the gritty "realism" of Nolan's Batman -- which this new film is trying to be.
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"Moss_Man23," "Poison_Ivy799," "Swamp_Thing03," etc.
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June 28, 2012, 3:20 a.m. CST
Ryan Reynolds is not confirmed as the Highlander - at least not yet.
by FlashRogers
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Stacy/JJJ is a wise-cracking cop who hates Spider-Man! Wow. That's right out of the comic and oooooo, so original! A wise-cracking cop who mistrusts and hates the masked hero. It's freaking me out with how this film is breaking the rules of comic book movies! Gwen is a super-science nerd! Man, it is astounding how how this film follows the book's canon. Peter's poodle-poofy hair! His emo poodle eyes! It's like ...a Marie Severin NOT BRAND ECCH! epic! There is no JJJ! OMG! Just like the comics! I feel like we all just got a stupendous no-prize! And the costume with the silver footsie sole trimming! Those racing stripe gloves! The mask's basketball texture! Just like it was drawn by sturdy Steve Ditko! Re-telling the origin story! Again only DIFFERENT! Peter created by his dad and then having to fight his father-figure Conors. Excelsior, baby! That's pure, undiluted comic book goodness right out of Ang Lee's HULK! Incredible!!!! Comic fans will EAT THIS UP! Face front, fearless true believers for the Spider-Man film you've been waiting all your life for! All together and let's sing so they hear us waaaay up on the Rainbow Bridge to Asgard! "We belong, we belong, we belong ...to the Merry Marvel Marching Society!" Nuff Said!
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You begin by stating that comparing this movie to the Raimi movies is somewhat inevitable, yet it is doing a great disservice to the new film After stating that, you spend the entire rest of the review doing just that; comapring it to the Raimi films. You're going to want to know why people can't look at this one as its' own movie, yet you're fanning the flames. Also, you state that treating Peter's relationships with a deep reverence sets this movie apart from every other comic book/ superheo movie ever made. Raimi's movies took the same approach and treated his relationships with such a deep reverence that it dragged the franchise down by the third film.
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June 28, 2012, 7:50 a.m. CST
I don't think these guys are plants. I think they are saps.
by FluffyUnbound
Some of you guys wearing Spiderman pajamas in your Spiderman-themed bedroom decorated with Spiderman posters and webs you bought from the goth store and re-purposed would go crazy with anticipation even if Sony rebooted this franchise every year and ground their way through every last possible actor and actress, until finally Peter Parker was Abe Vigoda and Mary Jane was Lindsay Lohan. The rest of us 'normals' are scratching our heads and saying 'Um, they just made this movie ten minutes ago.'
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He is, right? No? Yes?
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And thus available to play Peter Parker in the 2013 reboot that will follow the 2012 reboot. The first 2013 reboot, that is. The one they have coming out in January. The February reboot will feature Dean Cain. The March reboot, they say, will star Ms. Jay from America's Next Top Model. All of these reboots are origin stories, BTW. Yay!
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June 28, 2012, 9:59 a.m. CST
I haven't been trolling on the TB's for awhile, so I wasn't aware of the mass vitriol over 'Prometheus'. I enjoyed it. You guys are fags.
by AzulTool
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I just left the theater. The movie opened today in South Korera. Like others have said, I think the movie was really good. The interaction between Gwen and Peter was exceptional. I'm not a fan of Andrew Garfield, (he was great in The Social Network), but I thought he played Peter Parker pretty well. The first person web slinging was all right. The 3d didn't really enhance the movie experience. The Lizard does look as silly on the screen as he did in the trailers. Rhys Ifans plays Curt Connors pretty well. He may be my favorite villain out of all the Spidey movies. It retells the origin story pretty well without covering the same exact things the first Spider-Man movie covered. For instance, Parker never does confront the man who killed Uncle Ben. My only problem with the movie was that I didn't get to hear the great phrase, "With great power comes great responsibility." Stan Lee's cameo in the movie steals the show.
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June 28, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST
I'm going to go see Katy Perry's boobs in 3D next weekend instead of Spiderman 2.0
by SergeantStedenko
At least it's original.
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His whole review is a hatchet job at Sony having the audacity to take this franchise out of Raimi's hands. Malkovich as the fucking Vulture? Get Fucked, Sam. This is going to be this year's First Class. People bitching about reboot's too quick and whatever. Just like that one we are going to get good actors (Fassbender, McAvoy, Garfield, Stone) bringing it and suiting their roles to a T.
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Lizard is still shit looking. They took the same CG model head they used for VENOM in Spider-Man 3 and changed the textures and eyes for THE LIZARD. He sucks!! Boo hoo for you Mr. 70's dweeb. Just cause he sucks doesn't mean the rest of the movie does. This is without a doubt - the worst looking version of THE LIZARD created. Way to go SONY and WEBB. You fecked up something that wasn't easy to feck up.
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June 28, 2012, 6:48 p.m. CST
buckethead50 -when you really have nothing to say- just follow this guy's example of repetitious buffoonery- do you miss goblin?
by Michael Lunney
I bet he misses you!!!!! teehee...
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June 28, 2012, 8 p.m. CST
While certainly no Drew McWeeny, Lisa Schwarzbaum (Entertainment Weekly) and Peter Travers (Rolling Stone) both have given TASM positive reviews....
by YourMomsBox3D
They have to be plants, along with every other "top" critic.
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Oh, that's right. Nobody cares.
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June 28, 2012, 11:30 p.m. CST
"This is a blatant attempt by a movie studio to destroy honest discussion"
by slone13
You're fucking delusional. You're completely clueless and have absolutely no idea how the studio system works if you think SONY employees are getting paid to sit in Ain't It Cool talkbacks and talk shit to people who are negative about Spider-Man. You're giving Ain't It Cool WAYYY too much credit, as well, by making this site out to be some sort of influential presence that can actually effect the outcome of a major motion picture. 99.97% of the people in this country have never even heard of Ain't It Cool News.
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Funny how all the plants have taken to the tactic of denying the existence of PR plants, even though it production companies have ADMITTED that they do this, and websites have documented plant activity in their forums. And it probably isn't sony employees. They hire out pr firms for people like you. Same difference tho.
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"You're giving Ain't It Cool WAYYY too much credit, as well, by making this site out to be some sort of influential presence that can actually effect the outcome of a major motion picture." Batman and Robin. The whole phenomenon of studios kissing the ass of websites like this started when THIS website practically killed that movie before it opened. It's this kind of paid dishonesty that makes it imperative that this movie be killed.
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Swung (or is that swang?) through the streets & alleys of NYC Thursday afternoon for over two hours. Like Donner made you believe a man could fly Webb convinces you a boy can swing. (in 3-D yet) First off let me tell you I was already three years into college before I ever even heard of the comic character Spiderman and never read any of his books until just before my son was born in December of 1971. That was an old copy of AMAZING FANTASY #15 a 13 year old kid (hard) sold me for $5 (one sold for over $1,000,000 at auction last year) and I was hooked. This motion picture is a reinvention of his movie origin. Its well done. Ol' Father Geek enjoyed it and it covers things left hanging before. I loved Sally Field & Martin Sheen as May & Ben. Liked the story arc between the high schoolers Peter, Gwen & Flash, as well as the tension that existed with Peter and Gwen's dad played by Denis Leary. All this is necessary for a major relaunch with all new actors like this successful attempt. However, some may feel it slows down the flick and diehard MMMS types may get sidetracked with nitpicks, buuut none of this bothered me. Once the "Lizard" shows up I feel everybody will jump on board this funtastic summer film fare. A big fan of the Lizard as introduced by Steve Ditko in the Amazing Spiderman #6, I feel he is handled perfectly in his cinema day view. To stay away from spoilers I'll stop right here... its a solid 8 or 9 superhero movie on a scale of 10.
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The giveaway line: "This is going to be this year's First Class." That sounds like some talking point and doesn't even make sense. And anyway First Class sucked and it's obvious that ASM will too. You plants are lame. I hope your bosses are reading this thread and realize what a shitty job you are doing. You are just turning people against the film even more.
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You are either dumb or lying..probably both. AICN Is just one of the sites that Sony is targeting with their Plant posts and propaganda campaign. Yes you take the 10 or 20 most influential and most visited sites and you can make a difference in box office returns. At least that is their plan. Personally I think it may backfire on them but that's clearly what is going on. There are a lot of stupid people though and that's who they are targeting. They may get their asses in seats, but they are making the rest of us more vehemently opposed to this shitty cash grab pandering piece of crap film..
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LOL..at least go with a 7...8 or 9 just strains credulity and just shows you on board with the... well I don't want to get banned from the site. Thank you for your honest and heartfelt opinion. I know you guys have to eat and keep a roof over your head... so it's cool.
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June 29, 2012, 1:32 a.m. CST
have no prob being banned from the site, already have been...bs i scream
by walt
sold a copy of af 15 for 5 bux in 71? was the kid retarded? cuz i had an early sort of price guide that had that title listed in the hundreds
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How would my "Bosses" like me calling you a fucking douchebag loser? Respect my fucking opinion as being different from yours. Raimi is a disgrace to the directing profession for Spider-man 3 where he spent 200 million jerking off and cumming all over a beloved character and it's audience. I've been here for 15 fucking years. Discussed things with other frequent posters like Asi, Diox, and told off BobOrci.... first time I've been called a plant FFS.
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June 29, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN is excellent, but i'm really angry about this movie...
by brightgeist
i just don't see why it had to be a reboot. they had Dr. Connors and Gwen Stacy introduced already in the other 3 movies, so this could easily have been a sequel. instead of Uncle Ben, they could have killed off Mary Jane, maybe even in a quick prologue, so when we come into the movie, a while could have passed already, and Peter could have been ready to get together with Gwen. and anyway, the Raimi films are still WAY BETTER. the new movie tried to play all the same beats as SPIDER-MAN (Uncle Ben dies because of Peter's irresponsible behavior, Peter can't be with the girl he loves because that would put her in danger, and so on) but none of it worked half as well emotionally as it did in Raimi's version. and Spidey's powers weren't explained or shown in any sort of detail. we have no idea how and why his hands stick to things, Spidey Sense wasn't really clear either, and i still prefer organic web shooters :P Sally Field as Aunt May was nowhere near as sweet and lovable as Rosemary Harris was... and neither was Martin Sheen an equally good Uncle Ben... the 3D was pretty AWESOME though. so yeah, it's a really good movie on its own, but when i want to see a Spidey movie, i'll watch the Raimi films anytime...
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i'm in austria and the movie opened here yesterday, that's how i've seen it already
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BEST STAN LEE CAMEO EVER! :D that was clearly one of the two best moments of the movie, the other one being the first kiss scene on the roof.
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I found this to be a tad redundant. My detailed take http://thecrat.com/movie-reviews/the-amazing-spider-man-review-by-adam/
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"Talkbackers are, by nature, a cowardly and superstitious lot." (And yes, I know it's a Batman quote but here it's quite apropos...)
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...your book with Darick Robertson on Spider-Man (The Final Adventure, if memory serves?) was a highlight during a very rough time for many readers. By far the best job of any writer at the time with the Peter / MJ relationship. Truly great stuff. Glad to see your post here if it indeed is you.
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FIRST CLASS showed us a new story, set in a different era, with the characters at different ages from the previous films. It's not even close to being a reboot. It's an expansion of the previous universe. You may as well call the 2008 RAMBO a reboot. I would expect professional reviewers to rate the film higher than talkbackers would. Ebert is pretty much professionally obligated to review every film as an independent entity. I am under no such obligation. The people who keep saying 'Forget the Raimi films exist, and review the film on its own merits!' are all wet. If we jumped into a time machine to 2003 and some studio put out a shot-for-shot remake of THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING as a reboot, Ebert might well watch it and walk out of the theatre and say, 'That was a 3 and a half star film, on the merits. I owe it a 3 and a half star review, even though it's a shot for shot remake of a 2 year old film.' I, on the other hand, would say, 'I just motherfucking saw this movie. Why would I sit through it again?' I honestly don't care if the movie is technically well made. Sorry. And it's totally appropriate for me not to care. This is one of those rare times when the value of the film as art is completely unrelated to the value of the film as entertainment.
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You mean the Batman and Robin from 15 years ago?? Back when only a fraction of the world even HAD the internet, and was accessing it via dial-up connections like Compuserve and AOL? Ever less people knew what the fuck Ain't It Cool News was then. Like I said, you idiots are giving Ain't It Cool way too much credit. Pull your head out of your ass, eli_cash.
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June 29, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST
"you take the 10 or 20 most influential and most visited sites and you can make a difference in box office returns"
by slone13
If you actually believe that you're fucking crazy.
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There's no point getting into a detailed argument with you, since you probably will disappear by next week. But here's some links for people who want to know why you're full of shit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_%26_Robin_%28film%29#Reception http://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/16/magazine/the-two-hollywoods-harry-knowles-is-always-listening.html?src=pm http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2002-10-04/features/0210040130_1_messages-web-sites-movie-fans
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guy has turned me on to some great indy films...and he called the oscar win for the kings speech long before it was even released the studios and plants have become more sophisticated over the years...and they still go to every site and imdb
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I was posting on this site when you were still in diapers. It doesn't matter how many sites you post links links to. If you think Harry Knowles and Ain't It Cool News are the reason for Batman and Robin's failure you're out of your mind. Sidebar: I do find it highly amusing that Schumacher blames the "yellow journalism" of AICN for the film's failure instead of himself. The movie bombed because it fucking sucked. NOT because Harry SAID it sucked. End of story.
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impressive
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June 29, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST
slone13 i think the point being made is that the studios thought that harry had influence
by walt
to deny plants exist is to deny hollywood taking over the con
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I'm not denying the existence of plants or the "reviews" they put out there. I said I don't believe they're getting paid to hang around in Ain't It Cool talkbacks and harass the people who are talking shit about their movies in an attempt to "destroy honest discussion".
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i saw it happen with dark shadows someone would post a negative view...and be attacked by posters....who amazingly had only ever commented on dark shadows...some who were using accounts that had sat around unused for years the pr firms have changed their tactics in an attempt not to be discovered internet is all about trolling...so that is what they do and they are not above handing out swag to different websites to get the reviews that they want
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*slone13 i think the point being made is that the studios thought that harry had influence* Exactly. And the third link I posted quoted execs ADMITTING to this kind of shit. It's pointless trying to argue with him tho. He's only here for one reason, and when his job isn't needed he'll be gone.
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July 1, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST
Just someone else saying THIS THREAD IS PLANT CITY!!!!1
by Dead_Kate_Moss
All these names you've never seen before with their weird reviews that don't read like the usual (deranged but knowledgeable) AICNer... this stinks And as for Ebert, like a lot of critics he loved Prometheus too, and that opinion is becoming rarer every day. I was going to see this movie, but fuck it, I've decided it looks and sounds shit, even with, or especially because of, the fake good reviews everywhere.
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can't wait for this one, thanks
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Day view? or Debut? ;) Just busting balls, but...ya gotta admit...that's pretty funny.
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July 4, 2012, 8:49 p.m. CST
ijacksparrow - if this is your spider-man and your friends' spider-man
by the artist formerly known as messi
what fucking Spider-man have you been reading? or have the hundreds of comics I've read been of some other character The Amazing Sporkorman?
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I was dreading this, I really was. I freaking love Spider-Man my all time favorite comic book character hands down. And I enjoyed the original trilogy even the only 60% good Spider-Man 3. So though for a few nitpicks I really enjoyed the hell outta of this movie. I'm glad that the speed of the origin was done quickly, because I just felt like it's been done before. And I freaking Loved Garfield's Peter Parker. Even his Spider-Man was there. The constant quipping whilst fighting was there & in true Spider-Man fan couldn't help but love that. And I'm always one down for Mechanical Web Shooters! I always loved the extra element that brought to Spider-Man. Just how at a crucial moment it could run out, or be rendered useless by a villain. And the relationship depicted in this between Gwen & Peter far outshines Peter & MJ. Side from excluding one of the GREATEST Lines in comics it could've gotten a 9 but I really enjoyed this.
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so I can regrow the kid inside me that once liked Spiderman. Because Sam Raimi and Marc Webb dismembered that sense of wonder. Oh and Dennis Leary, I want to punch you in the neck.
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Peter knew the guy worked with his Dad and wanted to ask him some questions. He saw a formula Dr. Connors was working on and helped him solve it all in 2 meetings with Dr. Connors! Where is this mentor-ship you speak of? There was no close to no character development with Dr. Connors. Why was he so passionate about his work, what did he feel? Why did he help Peter seconds after trying to destroy him?
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Because you so fucking sound like a Plant.
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not horrible, not great the people sound like real people, not actors labouring over writers' witty lines. that also means not a lot of quotable dialogue making spider-man more 'real and grounded' also means there's not much of a sense of fun or adventure ... the practical stunts looked great .. and you can tell the difference between them and the CG animation. he CG characters have a bit too much bounce in their movement
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