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INDIANA JONES Digs Up A Release Date For His Blu-ray Debut!!
The Kidd here...
I told you it's going to be a busy September as far as Blu-rays are concerned. In addition to the freshly announced Hitchcock box set and MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS
The special features have yet to be detailed, but what will catch your eye, if you weren't already sold on the idea of owning Indy on Blu-ray, is the fact that RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK has been carefully restored under the supervision of Steven Spielberg and sound designer Ben Burtt, in order to maintain the original look, sound and feel of our introduction to Indiana Jones.
According to the press release sent my way:
The original negative was first scanned at 4K and then examined frame-by-frame so that any damage could be repaired.
The sound design was similarly preserved using Burtt’s original master mix, which had been archived and unused since 1981. New stereo surrounds were created using the original music tracks and original effects recorded in stereo but used previously only in mono. In addition, the sub bass was redone entirely up to modern specifications and care was taken to improve dialogue and correct small technical flaws to create the most complete and highest quality version of the sound possible while retaining the director’s vision. The result is an impeccable digital restoration that celebrates the film and its place in cinematic history.
It looks like INDIANA JONES: THE COMPLETE ADVENTURES
-Billy Donnelly
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June 26, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
I'm anticipating the "Crystal Skull wasn't so bad" keek revisionism. You know it's only a matter of time.
by P
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They should have redone all of them.
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Some of those were amazing. A few were great. Certainly better than Crystal Skull, story , writing and characters.
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I wonder if this is gonna be like the Star Wars Blu-rays, where they took half a disc's worth of special features and spread them across three to disguise the rip off...
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The truth will set you free.
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I will cherish the remastered Raiders. I will watch Temple and Crusade, and the Skull disc should make for a serviceable drink coaster.
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There will be none. Any argument that it was 'good' can quickly be repelled by pointing out Shia swinging on vines. That will be enough to crush any rebellion.
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It is mostly a great indy flick. It's no where near as bad as the star wars prequels.
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Why would want it to look pussy pristine?
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for the first half. The last hour or so was pretty bad.
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June 26, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST
I hope the discs have a better set up than the Star Wars ones
by Samuel Fulmer
What a fricken mess those extra features discs are. Take about ten years to load up each extra, and it's based around planets. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Will they come out with a new box set called the "totally-I'm-serious complete adventures"?
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Now all we need is Howard the Duck to finish up the 1980's Lucasfilm film cycle on bluray.
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Spielberg's got to many projects lined up, and Ford just gets older, and Lucas is retired.
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If you think otherwise, you are a total and complete communist.
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Took what Caddyshack did to another level.
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Did DOOM and CRUSADE get the RAIDERS restoration treatment?
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But it feels as if I already own lots of copies of them already. And aren't they making a fifth movie at some point? Think I'll wait until Mr Ford quits the role and then buy the definitive edition. Until then, I'll stick to my James Bond Blu-Rays. I hope the release date of 25th September holds firm...
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June 26, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST
How does the logistics work on individually examining and repairing something like 170,000 frames?
by detinue
How does that work? Do they have a vast staff working on different parts of the movie simultaneously? How long does it take to do one of these movie restorations?
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June 26, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST
There are individual sequences in Crystal Skull that look and feel like good 'ol Spielberg...but on the whole.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
...a big wet fart. I've seen CS in a BluRay bargain bin for 5 bucks, week after week, at my local resale shop. Thanks for including it, thus jacking up the price, Paramount.
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June 26, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST
Okay, I enjoyed the motorcycle ride through the campus and...um...
by P
yeah, that's all I got.
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June 26, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST
What was the point of shipping Mutt's bike over if it wasn't going to be used in the chase scene???
by Shermdawg
Also, what was with the psychic monkeys that knew who to fight?
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At least the dialogue parts. So I'm glad they're redoing the audio.
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You misspelled retarded.
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June 26, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST
psychic monkeys that knew who to fight-You'd learn to fight too
by Samuel Fulmer
After some of your relatives got served up as Monkey brains back in 1935.
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If you think otherwise then someone else thinks exactly the opposite!
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Everything in the intro sans fridge. Motorcycle chase, Fight in tomb, Fight thought jungle Sans swinging, Fight with Ants, Wedding! Last 40 mins thought indy does nothing and just follows knox. He needed to do more.
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Disc-based media is far from obsolete and I don't foresee physical media ever going away. I refuse to trust anything I spend my money on to the whims of corporations that run "the cloud." There have been too many cases of cloud users getting screwed by the government (MegaUpload) or private companies (Amazon) and ambiguous terms of use (Google) for me to not have physical copies, or at least non-cloud, copies of every movie, song or book that I own.
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June 26, 2012, 3:44 p.m. CST
AICN how could you NOT have an article on Little Shop of Horrors DIRECTORS CUT BLU?????
by fat_rancor_keeper
C'mon now -- I'm sure some geeks here would find that interesting as hell. Fans of LSOH have been waiting years for a directors cut. We didn't even know if such a thing was even possible for release. Anyway more on topic - this set is a must by for indy fans. I'm particularly interested in raiders and Temple of Doom as those are my favorites. but in this case I may wait for a price drop.
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June 26, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST
I thought some of you were being sarcastic but apparantly the revisionism has begun
by P
Carry on gentlemen! Up next: Spiderman 3
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Raiders of The Lost Ark on Blu-Ray! Awwww-YEAH, FOOLS! Raiders: The Perfect Film. Perfect, I tell you! A lot of action, a love story, loyal friends banding together to fight Evil, a Charming but Dastardly Villain, awesome special effects, some unbelievable MOODY music by John Williams, Indy chasing a truck on a horse!...Madre De Dios! Some movies...the pieces just come together so perfect that the movie will live forever as a classic. I remember seeing this in the theater. 'twas awesome. The scene where Indy runs into the alley after Marion and the Nazi henchman opens fire with the machine gun and the dirt kicks up...man, the sound was amazing. Sorry for gushing, but Hell...I can't think of anyone who does not like this movie. Don't like Temple of Doom? It's cool. Find Last Crusade a bit irritating? No sweat. Don't like Raiders? Dude...what are you doing in a theater? *stashes a hundred bucks away*
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Hands down - TOD. Not that anybody asked.
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Also had the best video game too (arcade version anyway).
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June 26, 2012, 3:52 p.m. CST
FatRancorKeeper, dead on man! TOD has awesome music!!! Every cue is perfect from the soaring brass and
by Dogmatic
grating strings when the giant vampire bats fly overhead to the epic hero reveal music swell backed by sharp xylophone for Indy's commencement of kicking Thule ass for the finale!
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From what I've seen, it looks like there are automated processes that take care of your average problems like dust and scratches ( like what digital ice does with negatives/slides, but hopefully in a more sophisticated way) and yes teams are assigned more major problems, like sections that have tears, major scratches, stability issues, etc. Then I believe there are people in charge of color correction and color continuity/exposure. I'm curious about what the plan is for preserving THAT work, with file formats and even disk formatting changing over the years. I'm still pissed that I found 5 1/4 discs with my writing on them and no way to get the data off. Paper is still a good thing. Anyone have a working 5 and 1/4 disk drive?
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Don't forget the most ICONIC hero theme music in history.
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I asked, and you answered correctly.
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The KOTS dislike is a little overboard in my opinion. The other Indy films are better, but it's a worthy sequel that happened 18 years later. Now I think if they would've actually made one back in the mid-90's, it would've been better. Too bad in 1997 Spielberg could've directed this instead of Lost World, and Ford could've starred in this instead of Six Days Seven Nights, but I guess George was too busy with the shitty Star Wars prequels.
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When I hear studios throwing out actual film prints of movies, I worry a little. We've got films from over 100 years ago that have survived on film, yet if we had put them on some digital format years ago, they'd be gone by this point.
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...I don't think it was a complete mess..I didn't love it either. It was fun...Indy should be more than just fun tho. Anyways, if not for hyperbole, the internet wouldn't exist. However, I don't trust anyone who doesn't like Raiders.
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.......It sounds like they're giving it the same kind of treatment as the Ben Hur Blu-Ray release - and that is a stunning treatment indeed!! I may be jumping to conclusions, but it does sound like a sterling transfer indeed. I'll plunder this set for sure!!
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Dude physical media it's going bye bye. In the next 10 to 15 years it's going to be dead. Everything will be streamed from the cloud. Look how much stuff has gone online already in the last 3 years. In the next 15 years everything is going to wireless. forget paying a ISP for internet to your house. You will have plan based on number of devices you want to connect and how many GIGs you download a month. forget direct tv or dish it's going to be gone or dying. everything will travel wireless internet at crazy speeds.
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My favorite Spielberg film, and one of my top favorite films.
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Been waiting so long for this, but it'll be worth it just to the trilogy in top condition.
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It's when they get to the jungle that things go to shit. The ants looked fake. The monkey's and Shia swinging, and the fact that when they get to the temple it's like Indy takes a back seat. We all have to admit there are some cools parts in it but overall the film couldn't live up to the hype.
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No matter what the bonus features I will just buy the first three as singles even if it cost me more than a discounted box set. I can't wait to see Raiders on Blu-Ray. The restoration process is crazy awesome!
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By which I mean, they should re shoot the entire movie and this time have it make sense and be GOOD.
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June 26, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST
"Crystal Skull isn't so bad..." "You're right, it's worse! Oh ho ho ho ho"
by locater16
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June 26, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST
overall the film couldn't live up to the hype-Agree with that
by Samuel Fulmer
Was thinking we'd get something more along the lines of Raiders (at least mostly physical sets, lots of stunts and thrills, etc.), and really it just turned out to be Last Crusade with an older Harrison Ford.
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And watch all 3!
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Same with Last Crusade that to me has many flaws, but the Ford/Connery dynamic as well as the fact that Indy was still in his physical prime kind of propel it over Crystal Skull for me.
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RAIDERS and TEMPLE have voices that come from the left and right channels in front. This was all mixed into the center channel for the DVD release. Hopefully,going back to the original mix means that the voices are back where they were, originally. If so, awesome.
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Because if you cut out all the shit - you'd only end up with 10-15 minutes of usable footage. That's not a movie - that's an extended trailer.
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It wasn't great, but it sure as Hell wasn't terrible. Annoying in parts? Yes, but there's always been a little bit of a punk aesthetic in Indiana Jones, it's part of the character, no matter how old he gets.
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June 26, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST
You know, I only saw Crystal Skull once before. Now that it will come with this awesome set...
by AlienFanatic
I'll still have seen it once.
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June 26, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
Indy 5! I want an Indy 5! Look! Strong wood!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
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I disagree with the fun factor too. There wasn't a since "WOW" moment other than the head scratching dumb moments that everybody complains about.
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AND ONE EXPENSIVE COASTER!!
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If someone wants my Crystal Skull, I will be having a contest just like AICN to see who gets it after I buy the set. Basically, try your hardest to convince me why the movie was not a total piece of shit. Whoever does the best will either win the Blu-Ray or convince me not to give it away after all.
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if you made the CHOICE to buy it.
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June 26, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST
Blu-rays are better than relying on "the cloud" or a 3 terabyte harddrive breaking.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Fuck "the cloud!" You own the movie, but you have to pay to maintain the cloud, plus you have to pay for the data to retrieve the data you already own. How many times does a person end up paying to see a movie they own?
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June 26, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
They need to redo Karen Allen's image on the cover
by Lao_Che_Air_Freight
Cause it looks awful...and Willie looks like a tranny.
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June 26, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST
Crystal Skull was a decent adventure flick that is dwarfed by better company
by kidicarus
No need to exaggerate how bad it was.
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June 26, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST
Oh and Raiders might be the most perfect adventure film that will ever be created. Yes?
by kidicarus
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Han Shot First
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That is all.
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... how come they're still 25 fucking bucks a pop?
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...for their movie and music collection deserve everything they get when people like George Lucas decide to redo their movies and all of a sudden the only version of Star Wars you can "conveniently" stream to your device is the one where Jar Jar Binks wields a lightsaber. It boggles the mind how easily people are willing to give up their freedom for "freedom". After having fought for generations for the right to keep and read/watch/listen to whatever they want, people are now more than happy to turn over the custodianship of their culture and information to third parties, all of which are susceptible to the whims of politics, economic factors and legal snafus which can have a direct and detrimental effect on their collections of music, movies and books. Fucking comfort-retards.
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But this news is about 2 weeks old. Granted dvd/blu ray doesnt doesn't seem like what you primarily cover, so no biggie
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Worst character in all of the films, hands down. I'd watch giant ants all day long rather than hearing her scream again.
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June 26, 2012, 4:58 p.m. CST
maybe we should all mail the KotCS disk back to Skywalker Ranch.
by hank henshaw
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June 26, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST
Thank you docpazuzu!! Someone finally gets what's going to happen when we're stuck renting our media in perpetuity in the very near future
by gruntybear
You cloud streamers aren't going to be allowed to make "copies" of your music and movie files from my discs when your little cloud access gadget goes tits up - as it inevitably will. I hope you morons enjoy paying upkeep / maintenance / rental fees for every movie, song or book you once owned.
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You lot started it...
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1. Why no Belloq on the box cover art?? You have Willie Scott and the shit dyke villian along with LaBum on the cover...but no Belloq?? Shame Shame. 2. Why only do a 4K remaster of Raiders? Why isnt Temple of Doom and Crusade getting the same treatment? Fuckin assholes.
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just wondering
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June 26, 2012, 5:19 p.m. CST
Complete my ass, where's the Young Indiana Jones adventures?
by brodiebruce_405
HMM? Also, exorcist 2 is a brave and underrated film.
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June 26, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST
There is a lot to be said for KOTCS, but I think some people here are hitting on a good point that Indy takes too much of a back seat toward the end. Check this...
by Dogmatic
In Raiders it is just Indy and either Sallah or Marion and sometimes (like the incredible convoy sequence) its just Indy...and that's why it is so perfect. In Temple it is Indy and Short Round all time with Willie often there too...but still when Indy goes solo after they split up when the mine is flooded it goes from good to great again. In Crusade you have FOUR people. Indy, Henry, Sallah and Marcus. Often 3 or 4 of them together. And Indy still gets solo time at the end but less of it than any before. Which makes it still weaker yet. Though some would argue it is better than Temple which would be on the charisma of Sean Connery more than anything. Jump to Kingdom. You have a whopping 5 people throughout (Indy, Mutt, Marion, Mac, and Oxley) and they are ALL there with Indy for the last 40 minutes giving him pretty much no solo time. YOu can actually FEEL the lack b/c of the brief moment Indy gets separated from them and goes up against the brute Russian solo and the movie suddenly feels better for a moment. Lesson learned: IF there is one more Indy film for a swan song. Limit the cast of heroes to no more than 3, and Give. Indy. More. Solo. Time. Especially at the end.
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but just a few years off. And I don't think that's a good thing, really. For the reason someone else gave... Han.shot.first. It would be a shame if the only version you were ALLOWED to have was the version the creator wants you to have. It puts an end to actual ownership as well. Everything is "licensed" in that world, which I think really, really sucks. I never "licensed" an album and I never will. I either own a copy, or I get it for free. Their choice.
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I have never "licensed" an album, or a movie, or a TV show. I either own it.... or I take it. I'm willing to give them my cash, no problem. But if the only options are license or take... I'm afraid take is my only option because the prices do not reflect a "licensing" of the work. If I'm only "licensing" a movie, it needs to be MUCH cheaper. MUCH. And it isn't. Sometimes, it's more. Idiotic. And a missed opportunity.
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Or will it still be "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark?"
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Yeah that made me want to gouge my eyes out and lash out at someone. At least in that case (Napster) the price fit the idea of licensing rather than owning. It still bothered me because the message is the equivalent of doublespeak. Good is bad, bad is good. I hate that shit, you should too. Before it's too late.
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I have to own Raiders on blue-ray no matter what the cost. The other movies are just gravy. What I want to see in new Indiana Jones movies are more of his pre-WWII adventures, or even some of his exploits as an MI6 agent in WWII. So who should take over the series as a younger Indiana Jones? I sure don't have an effing clue.
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It should have been Indiana Jones and The Lost Ark Raiders (which sounds almost as bad as Indiana Jones and THE Raiders of THE Lost Ark).
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LOL see... sounds retarded.
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ONLY Han shot. Freedom never fired.
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Greedo
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It must be crushed.
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...nuked the fridge! There, I said it. Love the first three but Indy 4 was sadly disappointing. There are some things to love but so much that was terrible that I could never bring myself to spend money on it. Fooled me once....
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I thought there were some moments of greatness in the film.. no doubts. But at the same time the BAD just completely out did it. The villain? Just BAD.. The Mac character unnecessary? Ox? Great actor.. but next to useless. Shia was a complete miscast.. He had moments with Ford.. but his character was just wrong. More Revenge of the nerds dork MIGHT have worked. Honestly. I could have been OK with the alien bit.. the whole analogy of them "waiting" transposed with the final line "how much time is lost in waiting..?" With a few changes. Make Indy the MAIN character.. switch Marion with Mutt (asking Indy to find her missing son). The film MIGHT have worked.
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....when they get to the jungle. The first half is pretty enjoyable and (dare I say it) vintage Indy. But... Karen Allen and John Hurt mugging at the camera, Shia LeBeouf doing tarzan, the whole car/giant branch scenario and the wasted jungle cutter (set-piece wasted there). Then... Ray Winstone shouting "Jonesy" every two minutes, squinty aliens and worst of all, Indy doing nothing whatsoever during the final sequences. Not to mention the "we're not going to use too much CGI" business... Probably one of the most disappointing films I've ever seen.
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Since Spielberg has turned against altering old movies I would guess that a new scan of the negative means the cobra reflection is back in.
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Count me in for having a physical copy of the movie around. All of the things we geeks enjoy are now available as "information" held in a cloud or databanks. I just don't like that. There's something beautiful about a physical library, be it one of books, comics, music, etc. Hell, in my case, it's all three! "Is that a first edition?" "Yes it is. Signed by the author." vs. "I hear you got a lot of shit in the cloud." "Yeah..."
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June 26, 2012, 6:10 p.m. CST
lao_che_air_freight, you are wrong, Han didn't shoot first, ONLY HAN SHOT!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
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June 26, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST
But does it still go by that revisionist title "INDIANA JONES and the RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK"?
by Wacky Packages
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June 26, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST
Crystal Skull made me want to buy a lead-lined fridge. You know, just in case of a nuclear attack.
by IronEagle74
In all seriousness, not a BAD movie. Just not an Indiana Jones movie.
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Well said. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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1. Get rid of gopher open. I know its a wink at the audience moment, similar to ToD, but real mountain cuts are the series best because scouts HAD to find a match. P.s. keep the fridge nothing wrong with it. 2. Get rid of monkey close up and accompanying music. It's whimsical and not "fun.". I can handle fun, but whimsy has no place in Indy. 3. Get the duck on the water by any other way but the tree dive. Or do it with practical effects. It's just too fake looking. 4. Keep the family behind in the last part. Actually, Mutt can come with Indy, nut no one else. Too many other goofy characters diluting the focus. 5. Make the native guardians be a bigger part, more of a threat. They have a creepy cool intro, but are gone in 2 minutes. Add 4 + 5 and you lose Allen's "Indeeeeeee!!!!" Four fifths of the flick are spot on. A little here and there would go a long way.
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June 26, 2012, 6:46 p.m. CST
The Talk About TOD Having The Best Score Makes Me Wonder....
by www.valiens.com
Easily, the best part of "The Phantom Menace" was the score. John Williams picked up the ball where Lucas dropped it. If he did the same for "Temple of Doom," I wonder if we can go back through the lesser sequels he has scored and see if he tends to put in more effort when he knows he might be the film's saving grace.
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Been waiting forever for this.
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I recall last year he made remarks that the escape the nuke in the fridge scene was over the top goofy.They can include that Spielberg remark in the extras! I can think of 20 other things I would put first for worst in Crystal Skull. Nothing wrong with getting a cleaned up copy of a classic but I am not a "completist." I own The Godfather 1 and 2 and not that 3rd piece of shit. Makes life simple. Does Billy The Kidd own Jaws 3D and Jaws: The Revenge? Why ? Do you want your grand kids in the year 2052 to unbury you in a future episode of Hoarders from such a horrible waste of time, effort and money?
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June 26, 2012, 7:02 p.m. CST
somerichs Indy Jones and the ROTLA was just on the packaging, not in the film.
by shane peterson
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June 26, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST
all it would tak eis one EMP bomb and all that digital info
by shane peterson
is wiped clean from all the clouds and everything. That would include discs too. Bring back analog!
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Saw "The Complete Adventures," then got let down. Will we get Young Indy on BD? (I shelled out $75 for just one of the 3 Young Indy DVD box sets -- couldn't justify buying the rest at that rate).
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Raiders, simply due to the amazing (and strangely underrated) tour de force of music during the ark opening sequence. It's a shame the piece is heavily edited and somewhat buried by sound effects in the movie because it's one of Williams' most epic compositions which builds and builds to crazy dissonant heights. Wrath of God indeed. I do agree that TOD is a close second.
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Total Dogshit. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.
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June 26, 2012, 7:11 p.m. CST
@gotlik: Check eBay - You can still get functional 5.25" floppy disks + drives 5.25". Here's another link you may find of use...
by obijuanmartinez
http://floppydisks.com/
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Thanks, man. I have a TON of old writing on those disks.
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It wasn't that bad. Goofy sequences? Yes. Story was iffy. They ruined Marion. All Karen Allen did was smile. If it had been a Mummy movie, it would have been considered great for that franchise. Face it. It was a movie that got made that Spielberg really wasn't crazy about doing. He did it reluctantly. Ford did it reluctantly. Shia was the flavor of the month to get younger audiences in the theater. In the end it was just another adventure that Dr. Jones went on. It doesn't hurt the others, and you don't have to like them all.
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comparing Crystal SKull to Dogshit just isn't fair. Dogshit never did anything so bad to warrant that comparison. Dogshit,I'm sorry. What I meant to say was: The Crystal Skull was total Anal Vomit mixed with goat loads. And cg monkeys. fuck you George Lucas. You even managed to ruin WW2.
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I had TOD album before I bought Raiders 100% correct!
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I am sorry to hear someone died but when is the last time everyone here got excited about talking about Sleepless in Seattle and When Harry Met Sally? I can't wait for the "Harry, you asshole where is the Nora Ephron obit?"
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It hasn't seeped into the collective unconscious of audiences like the others have. Time is the main arbiter. And why do people complain about the gophers? What if Indy really saw them out in the desert? It's just not expected...thats why it works. And it's something that everybody will remember about that film, for better or worse. And I enjoyed the monkeys and Shia swinging on the vines...it was adventurous and awesome. What I didn't like about that scene was how he could have possibly swung out and back into the truck, when the truck was probably doing at least 50 mph. But then again, there are plenty of stupid/unblelievable things that happened in the other 3 Indy films that nobody complains about.
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because it was Harrison Ford...playing Indiana Jones. That alone...is why its a good movie. Nothing else matters. He could be in any part of the world, fighting whoever, and searching for whatever...Its Harrison playing Indy....that is all.
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I was watching goddamn mummy 3 and finding that more interesting and well made than an indiana jones movie. Not even to mention mummy 1 and 2, plus countless other adventure movies in the same genre both modern and vintage that embarrass skull. Will this matter to a kid? no. They'll watch all the movies back to back and think they're the shit. But I know what could have been and it's forever aggravating. I mean look at Tin Tin. Why the fuck didn't we get that as Indy 4? fuck
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June 26, 2012, 8:19 p.m. CST
Shia swinging with monkeys was the most dissaappointing moment I've ever had in a theater.
by BigTuna
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I haven't bought a CD since 2006; I think the last DVD I purchased was app. 2008. Other famous / inaccurate technology harbingers, courtesy of the Daily Mail UK: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1093470/Next-Christmas-iPod-kaput-How-Sir-Alan-Sugar-got-wrong-174million-times--webs-worst-predictions.html Data duplication across geography is multiplying at a yearly exponential rate - not only within the corporate / health / legal / private sectors. I am an engineer, and I design electrical, mechanical and optical fiber plants for data centers; I have worked in the IT / engineering field nearly 15 years, and watched the size of corporate SAN / NAS infrastructures (disk storage) grow at an astounding rate. An equivalent increasing importance has been placed on data retention; corporations are required to maintain lossless data environments by law for "x" number of years, based on the nature of the record. If you imagine Apple is backing up its Cloud data in just a single isolated data center, you're way off the mark. Your data is perfectly safe. From a seedier side of things, you can think of the character Kelso from the film "Heat", when asked by DeNiro how he gets the info he he obtains for their jobs: ”It just comes to ya. This stuff just flies through the air. They send this information out, I mean it’s just beamed out all over the damn place. You just gotta know how to grab it. See, I know how to grab it." At this point, the data is out there flying around - It's not going anywhere. Through means legal or illicit, the "Han shot first" version of Star Wars is going to be available on demand in some form in perpetuity. Your alarm is unfounded. Yours Truly, A Comfort-Retard
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June 26, 2012, 8:45 p.m. CST
I love this series. Love all the movies. (admittedly I too dislike the Shia's tree swinging)
by HanYoYo
And I can't wait for the next movie too. And while I assume many would see this as sacrilegious; I wouldn't mind if Ford (Spielberg and Lucas) get replaced and Indiana Jones carries on in the future. Maybe one day people online will be arguing over who their favourite Indy is, with no doubt most suggesting Ford, and some suggesting the current actor in the role! There's so much more profit to make from this franchise, I'd be more shocked if that didn't happen.
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June 26, 2012, 8:46 p.m. CST
@erichaislar: Like the sentiment, but wireless is way susceptible to EMI, and much slower than what you'll get with dedicated, singlemode optical fiber - exponentially so...
by obijuanmartinez
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The problem with the gophers (Prairie Dogs, whatever) is that they were CGI. Obvious CGI. I've ranted about this before. From the opening shot, they use a CGI gopher, and it set a tone for the rest of the movie. Why not use real gophers? Raiders had real snakes. Temple had real bugs. Crusade had real rats. But for a handful of shots of prairie dogs - small, harmless, innocuous, common dirt squirrels - doing next-to-nothing, they went with CGI. It came off as lazy. And so did the rest of the movie. Hell, I could handle the CGI ants. Actually, I thought that scene worked. There was lots that did, lots that came close to that Indiana Jones greatness, but it was always working against laziness. I don't care about the mcguffin being aliens. I just hate the inconsistently magnetic skull (works when we need it, ignore it when we don't), the monty-python-level absurdity of the fridge escape, the swinging with the monkeys, and the lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy fucking CGI stunts. Use it to hide wires. Don't use it for driving down a road. I know what driving down a road looks like. Film people driving down a road. And I know what a fucking gopher looks like. A lot like a prairie dog.
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June 26, 2012, 8:53 p.m. CST
I'm either insane or a glutton for punishment.......
by fat_rancor_keeper
Despite the shit-fest that was Indy 4.........I'm still up for a 5 & even 6. I think Ford, Spielberg & Lucas actually have it in them to finish off the franchise properly. They have it in them.....but that doesn't mean they'll do it or even realistically get around to it. It's one thing to go off on a sour note - but imagine how bad it would be if the last 2 movies were shit? That's why they'd HAVE to make any sequels good. REALLY GOOD. Raiders good.
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June 26, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST
No sale. I still refuse to buy the STAR WARS Blu-rays too.
by YackBacker
I'm done feeding the beast. Besides, it's like another Barbara Streisand farewell tour here. Please, someone, create new shit already to help us move forward. I remember a teacher in HS loving the hell out of THE WIZARD OF OZ- she had that shit all over her classroom. Sure, I get it- classics, etc., but there's been a lot of good material since then- let's stop blowing so much good money on nostalgia.
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Lucas is insane. Harrison Ford is cranky. Spielberg's arm can always be twisted if the cranky guy and the insane guy are on board.
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People who love all kinds of movies and not just fucking comic book adaptations care that she's gone. Seems pretty clear where you fall in there.
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How is that any worse than falling from a plane in a raft, sliding down then off a mountain then into a river full of rapids? seriously?
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June 26, 2012, 9:25 p.m. CST
seymourscagnettisbruisedego, I'm sure a proper obit is forthcoming
by P
Hopefully not from Harry. Not sure I can stand him going on about giggling and crying like a baby and falling in love with Meg Ryan, etc etc etc
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That was a joke. But not entirely untrue ;)
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June 26, 2012, 9:49 p.m. CST
Question: How do you think and at what age does Indiana Jones eventually die?
by DarthBlart
My guess is 9/11/2001 at the ripe age of 100 as he takes a trip to the world trade center in nyc.
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I'm absolutely going to do something like that.
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June 26, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
Crystal Skullfuck WAS that bad. It's WORSE than the prequels.
by NeonFrisbee
Stop covering for it. It was AWFUL. Even the Phantom Menace had a decent sword fight at the end. Skullfuck has nothing but FAIL for it's entire running time. There wasn't one moment that didn't feel off.
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June 26, 2012, 10:03 p.m. CST
I'll buy the only good Indy movie -- Raiders -- when it's granted a solo release.
by NeonFrisbee
Otherwise, GTFO.
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June 26, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST
I'll buy the only good Indy movie -- Raiders -- when it's granted a solo release.
by master_of_realty
^ This
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June 26, 2012, 10:18 p.m. CST
wel,, someone said Belosch (hahahaha) wasn't on the cover picture, well guess what ... You forgot about Marcus!!!!!!!!!!!! The heart of the team.
by DarthBlart
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In the plane anyhows.
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I have these great Heavy Pint sized Beer Mugs...I think the base is just about DVD sized.
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looks cr*p on these remastered, digital transfers. That opening was made for grainy vhs tape.
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Just awful. They had what, 2 location shoots (university and the desert at the beginning)? Even the effin' jungle scenes were on a sound stage. Harrison, Lucas and The Beard are just all too damn old to do another great Indy. None of them want to be globetrotting anymore and travel and authentic locations is the heart of the franchise. I mean just bring to mind the opening jungle scenes in raiders and then bring to mind Indy in Crystal Skull being ambushed by those natives crawling out of the walls on that plasticy set. Sigh.
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No one gives a fuck if you're waiting for a Raiders BluRay to be sold solo. No one gives a fuck if you use the Crystal Skull disc as a coaster. That's right. No one. Gives. A fuck. P.S. Raiders IS the best movie ever made. And I don't give a fuck whether you agree or not.
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June 26, 2012, 11:31 p.m. CST
Crystal Skull had iconic moments, The Suburbs, Indy and the mushroom cloud, blowing the dart back into the dudes mouth, mummy disintegrates and Indy whipping the machine gun to Mac.
by scatnam666
Deffinately a pretty good globetrotting adventure I would have dug as a kid, knowin its flaws.
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The Oatmeal's movie theater design rules!
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June 26, 2012, 11:50 p.m. CST
I hate Temple Of Doom more than I do Crystal Skull!
by yeah i'm a jerk!
Man that movie disappointed me when I saw it. Stupid female lead, horrible kid sidekick. Honestly, Jar Jar Binks and Short Round are interchangeable. Both speak broken english, annoy and destroy franchises..... Besides, Indy is best when he's fighting Nazis! Raiders is still the best in the series! Last Crusade is the best sequel!
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All that is well and good as long as you're living in a free country where you're guaranteed free access to information for eternity. But what about if you live in a country where government wants to prohibit your access to certain information? Or if your free country suddenly isn't free any more? Sure, there will always be cutting edge folks who can access that info anyway, but for the majority of populations in such countries? Not so much. Nope, not convinced. The only "guarantee" to keep information alive is for there to be as many copies as possible in circulation. Furthermore, why would I pay another party to take care of my collection when the whims of legality can force them to actually delete certain items from said collection? No, fuck that.
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June 27, 2012, 12:50 a.m. CST
Thank the blessed Lord! I watched Temple of Doom this past Saturday and was hoping a Blu-Ray would soon be released.
by The Krypton Kid
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June 27, 2012, 12:50 a.m. CST
Still possible to throw in RotLA: The Adaptation? (Remember that?)
by Fred Asparagus
Pretty ancient news by now. A few kids remade RotLA scene-for-scene over something like seven years, and about five years ago were in the spotlight for having done so. Movie rights were sold (see: Backyard Resistance). The editor of said effort mentioned working on a fully remastered cut, and there was talk of including it in the eventual bluray release of the real movie. Would probably buy the bluray just for that.
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that the US doesn't have the infrastructure to support HD streaming. And it's nice having things you like in a box on the shelf. Completely bare walls and bookshelves are depressing.
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June 27, 2012, 2:03 a.m. CST
"and alrighhht billy as promised here's my half of the deal"
by Balkin Flabgurter
500 dollars worth of ET promotional vasoline and a kenny g poster/cd roll combo" enjoy..and keep up the great work. Love, spielberg
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Agreed, the CGI is what killed it. Only due to the fact that it is not in the tradition of the other films. And thats the problem. However, I believe that with time, the fact that CGI was used won't be much of a big deal. There were a lot of shots in TOD and LC that used special effects...not quite CGI. But if CGI was available to use back in the 80's...im sure they would have used the shit out of it. CGI is just a tool to make the creative process easier...just like the special effects used in the 80's were a tool. Were people as pissed of at TOD when they used miniatures? Not that im trying to justify anything, but when people years from now look back at the Indy films, they won't be pissed off about the CGI like we are. But still, if Indy 5 ever gets made, I hope its in the same technical style as Raiders. Is that even possible anymore?
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June 27, 2012, 3:41 a.m. CST
People complaining that the Indiana Jones movies are not realistic
by kwisatzhaderach
obviously do not understand anything about the whole concept of the series. They're B movie serials, have you ever seen some of the ridiculous shit that was in those serials???
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Indiana Jones and the Halls of Valhalla - Indy takes on Norse mythology. Indy trekking through snow... instead of the usual jungles that have been done to death. Are you listening George?
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Raiders is the greatest film ever (in its genre)
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guess i'll be buying the first 3 individually then.
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and it's region free
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The sound of a bat hitting leather will sound amazing in high-def! I always loved the sounds of punches landing in the Indy universe. Alas, if they would take out Crystal Skulls...this would be a great set!!!
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June 27, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST
Yeah, Kwisatz, I heard that about no more jungles! I have an Indy jacket from Wested an I couldn't IMAGINE wearing that thing down in balmy South America!!
by Dogmatic
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June 27, 2012, 10:15 a.m. CST
"Indy doing nothing whatsoever in the final sequences"
by Nasty In The Pasty
Um, with the exception of Temple Of Doom, that happens in EVERY INDIANA JONES MOVIE. Indy spends the last reel or so as the hostage of the villain who then ends up killing THEMSELVES as Indy runs away. You can bag of Crystal Skull all you want, but the face of Indy not having much to do in the home stretch isn't anything new for the series. As for Skull overall, like Phantom Menace, it was a moderately entertaining, B- kind of movie that was doomed to be released in an era where every movie has to be a four-star masterpiece or a zero-star piece of shit, with no gradiations in-between. The **1/2 movie does not exist on the internet. There are plenty of good moments in Crystal Skull (just seeing Harrison Ford totally awake and engaged by a role for the first time in nearly 2 decades was worth the price of admission alone), just as there are plenty of dumb/illogical moments, and sometimes mixed together (everyone complains about "Nuking The Fridge", but the image of Indy standing on that hilltop silhouetted against the nuclear mushroom cloud was AWESOMELY iconic, and worth the impossible physics of surviving that blast). It's not a terrible film, and it's not an underrated classic either...it's just a decently fun, ridiculously belated sequel. Had it been released circa 1995 or so (pre-widespeard internet), it wouldn't have been NEARLY as despised as it was
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June 27, 2012, 12:51 p.m. CST
John Williams Definitely brought his A game to Phantom Menace
by Samuel Fulmer
Strangely he brought his D game to KOTCS. I'll defend KOTCS in a lot of ways, but the score isn't one of them. Good thing he took a break after that one, because his Tintin score is really good.
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June 27, 2012, 12:55 p.m. CST
^Indy silhouetted in a yellow-orange background was done better at the dig site. That one is iconic, the nuclear blast thing is a joke.
by hank henshaw
At least that's how I remember it in the theater, everyone was laughing at that moment, like it was a comedy. If anything, the moment Indy realizes the whole neighborhood, all those houses with the mannequins, is really a blast site, is better... but again it's played like a cartoon.
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obijuanmartinez - I do not wish to speak for docpazuzu, but I think the real point he makes is that it is not the retention of the data that is at issue, it is the access - specifically the administrative access.. Yes, the data will be backed up and retained for legal as well as logistical reasons, but if the true owner is the cloud or more accurately, he/she/it who has administrative access to the cloud data, then access can be compromised and the data manipulated. For instance, say you downloaded a copy of a particular movie and you 'own' it for all intents and purposes, then you decide to store it in a cloud warehouse as opposed to your own local storage. Now, say that the movie you own has an embedded code that allows 'upgrades' - just like your OS or other application software, only it does not prompt you to allow the upgrade because it is implicit in the purchase agreement, or it existed in the fine print you did not bother to read, or like the recent facebook changes no one really gives a hoot about informing you about changes. If the movie exists on a cloud the 'true' owner of that data - let's say some restless director who woke in a cold sweat one night and screamed 'Alvin is really the first animal transsexual and is proud of it!' could then decide he wants changes and then he transmits a code change that affects every copy of the movie he can access because the purchase agreement -that you did not carefully read allows such, then when you or your child go to view your favorite chipmunk, guess what you see? Or, it could simply be a company like facebook who unilaterally decided to alter your data to serve their own ends. The long-winded point is that he who has administrative access to the data, controls the data.
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Stop trying to defend the undefendable.
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June 27, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
I pray that this isn't the actual Blu-Ray case art... Toht on the cover but no Marcus Brody??????
by Chris Sorrentino
Would love to see this as a "book" case like the Star Wars and Alien sets...
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i want a scratchy release print with reel changes!
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June 27, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
Crystal Skull was the 4th Prequel....it was that bad. what a waste of time.
by FleshMachine
so much nonsense in that film.
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June 27, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
People who think Crystal Skull is "horrible" need to watch more fucking movies.
by Leto III
...Seriously. There are far worse films out there. As fourth installments go, it ain't bad at all. Recently rewatched it (not having seen it in about three years or more), and was surprised at how well it holds up.
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ALL OF THEM. Stupid fun with an iconic character. I could do without some things in Temple and Skull, but overall these movies blow other franchises out of the water. Temple of Doom was still one of my most messed up (and therefore favorite) movie going experiences as a kid. Dudes getting their hearts ripped out did not bother me as much as that whole bug scene. Ahh... I loved being a kid in the 80's.
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the first hour of KOTCS is actually perfect indiana jones in tone,story, characters, situation and pacing. But as soon as you hit the jungle it gets very, very slow. Only an hours worth of extra editing and scene tweaking and it would have been a great indy film. More emotion between Marion and Indy would have gone a long way. And Mac was just stupid.
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It then ceases to be a movie in its own right and makes it something like a TV reunion special. The dialogue was awful for the whole 2nd hour. Okay, I hated the whole movie on first viewing, but on second I found myself getting sucked in when Indy and Mutt join up and things start to feel like a Spielberg adventure movie (for more of this, see the underrated Tintin). Things soon go to shit midway through and then I remember wishing the standard had been kept up. Maybe a few of Spielberg's more recent movies have suffered this syndrome (War of the Worlds...).
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I know plenty of you fuckers never even saw Tintin. Rectify this asap please!!
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Other than that.. got nothing for ya. And i was so prophetic when I told Peter David in talkbalks it wouldn't sell here. Nobody cares about Belgian Teenage Journalists(or whatever the hell he was).. SORRY! It was a successful movie though.. them foreigners will watch anything with sound and fury. Even Battleshit.
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June 28, 2012, 8:07 a.m. CST
People complain about the fridge or the raft fall for bad physics
by Nozoki
but the worst offense is when Indy gets his bag strap caught on the tank turret in Last Crusade. He was nowhere near the end of that barrel for it to loop over.
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Kingdom was fine until Marion showed up... After that point Harrison switched gears and started to play Indy as goofy old man as opposed to surly old man (which he played in the whole first half and was ok in my opinion)... Shame on me for not seeing Tin Tin yet, but if it at all harkens back to Spielberg ruturn to form, then I will go buy the Blu-Ray right now...
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July 23, 2012, 8:35 p.m. CST
every movie has to be a four-star masterpiece or a zero-star piece of shit, with no gradiations in-between.
by Dan
THIS is correct! Some of the fuckers in here need to know that...
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