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Genndy Tartakovsky..POPEYE!!
Genndy Tartakovsky (DEXTER'S LABORATORY, POWERPUFF GIRLS, SAMURAI JACK, and the rather excellent STAR WARS: CLONE WARS micro-series), whose forthcoming HOTEL TRANSYLVANIA feature hits screens later this year, has been attached to develop and direct a new animated feature film based on POPEYE.
Avi and Ari Arad will produce under their Arad Productions banner with Sony Pictures Animation. As of November, scribes David Ronn and Jay Scherick were attached to pen the script.
...says Variety HERE.
POPEYE last visited the big screen in 1980 via a live-action adaptation from director Robert Altman and starring Robin Williams as the title character.
Personally, I couldn't stand the movie...although I do very much appreciate what it was going for and begrudgingly acknowledge a few of its more impressive qualities (its scale/production design, for example). Hopefully, Tartakovsky's version will work out better?
Popeye was first introduced in early 1929, as a minor character in an already existing comic strip. He has subsequently evolved to enjoy a long life in comic strips, comic books, theatrical animated shorts, television cartoons, and various ancillary markets.
As a kid, I once tried to slam down a can of Spinach - the food which lends Popeye his freakish strength. I barfed.
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Hand-drawn or GTFO.
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You don't . . .
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You make that hound Olive Oyl look like Megan Fox.
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I'm in!
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Booze versus spinach on the big screen!
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It's this bizarre hybrid of the mumbling, muddy, dank, narratively rambling McCabe and Mrs. Miller and a garish kid's film. Octopus is one of those classic Scarred For Life moments for any kid who caught it at the right age.
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June 26, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST
Canned & Frozen spinach is awful. But loved watching the cartoons
by Wcwlkr
That damn Popeye had me & my brothers suffering downing that crap. LOL Fresh Spinach is good though. But who didn't love that cartoon. And even as a kid I never understood the Olive Oil appeal LOL.
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June 26, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST
Who the hell has any interest in this? Also will it get the Batman treatment?
by happybunni
I remember seeing the movie on TV and being slightly entertained by it at least... But there is no way I would ever pay to see this. I don't think I have ever met a person who would pay for this.
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I'm serious. I can always watch Popeye. Just the other day at the beach this whale of a woman went swimming and I had to comment she looked exactly like Bluto at the end swimming away.
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June 26, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST
A follow-up question. Who is their target market? Mothers who are 40-50?
by happybunni
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Based on? Well, here's hoping it's Popeye in space, with Popeye as a law-abiding space trucker and Bluto as an evil space pirate. Olive Oyl to be some kind of... uh... "hot" space princess everyone wants to spacefuck.
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. . . caught it at just the right age. Every time I've revisited I still love it. Only thing I don't like is the wasted time while they're heading out to skull island at the end. Lots of random Altman jibber jabber there. Other than that? Casting & performances are stellar. Costumes & set are awesome. Songs are underrated.
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Months of pimping Battleship articles, and no review?????
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June 26, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST
I feel Symbionic Titan was his best work, it's never mentioned.
by JackSlater4
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See The Green Hornet, The Phantom, The Shadow, John Carter, etc., etc. Modern audiences have zero interest in retreads of 1930's time capsule properties. And no, superheroes do not fall into this category as they've been continuously in the public eye, making them contemporary "modern" stories.
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Thimble Theater, the original E. C. Segar comic strip, was one of the wittiest, most unique strips out there. Stands up there with Krazy Kat and Pogo. Lots of wonderful stuff in it. I love the Fleischer cartoons, but there's a much deeper universe and tone in those strips!
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Then you better have a decent reason. Any reason. You begrudgingly appreciate some of it? What's wrong with it. Let me answer for you: you have no real reason. You just can't be arsed to pay attention to this sweet little movie.
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June 26, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST
Tartakovsky did Symbionic Titan, not Powerpuff Girls Merrick
by JackSlater4
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June 26, 2012, 8:50 a.m. CST
Tartakovsky wrote and directed a few episodes, but Powerpuff Girls wasn't his
by JackSlater4
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June 26, 2012, 8:51 a.m. CST
Maybe take out Powerpuff Girls and replace it with Symbionic Titan
by JackSlater4
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Then you need to give a reason... any reason... as to why. You begrudgingly appreciate some elements? But why can't you "stand it"? I'll tell you why; it's because you can't be arsed to sit down and pay attention to this sweet film.
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June 26, 2012, 8:56 a.m. CST
Best thing about this article is it gives those of us interested in discussing Altman's Popeye a forum
by P
NOBODY talks about Altman's Popeye. And they should. It's completely unique. Can you imagine something like that being made now? It walks this incredible line between gritty realism and surrealism.
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For some reason that line has stuck with me for decades.
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June 26, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST
Popeye is how I reming myself there is such a thing as a good musical.
by JackSlater4
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Speaking as one of that generation raised on the cartoons, I thought it was as perfect as a live action Popeye could possibly get. Though I admit not so perfect as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY2XeFqcBgE
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. . . sounds like some kind of lubricance . . .
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June 26, 2012, 9:19 a.m. CST
Does the "production design" include Hume Cronyn's gigantic forearms?
by Andrew
Because that shit freaked me the fuck out when I was little!
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Between the years of 1978-1987. It wasn't until the Tanner '88 cable series that he got back on track.
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June 26, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST
Love Altman Popeye. And so does PTA. Fuck everyone who doesnt.
by dahveed1972
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June 26, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST
Altman's Popeyes stands as one of the best cartoon to live action movies ever.
by BirdieNumNum
The movie may have a few small narrative problems but everything else works. The soundtrack alone by the great Harry Nillson is more deserving of the broadway treatment than Spiderman. I still sing the songs to this very day. Altman completely captured the world of Popeye, paying homage to the original comic. Even Robert Evans the producer claims that it's an underrated film. Robin Williams dislikes it because he was hopped up on coke through the whole thing and it reminds him of a turbulent period in his life. If you haven't watched it I suggest you open your heart and expect Popeye nothing more nothing less. Remember it ain't Shakespeare. most people I know have an undying love for this film. If you don't agree then I can recommend some Korean revenge flicks that will be right up your sadistic alley. "I may not be no doctors, but I know when I'm losing me patientsk!"
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Genndy Tartakovsky helming is damn good news
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Much better Olive Oyl than Wendy Torrance.
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. . . you should print t-shirts w/ that. I'd buy one.
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It's a real cartoon that came alive! Everything's great about it, the performances, the makeup, the costumes, the sets, the cinematography... and let's not forget Harry Nilsson's great songs! And yet, I HATE MUSICALS! But Nilsson's songs are juste great, bringing the emotion it needs to these cartoon characters to become (almost) humans... Incredible movie all around!...
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...but he will use spinach to power up.
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http://youtu.be/oNS4rTSkoFA
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June 26, 2012, 10:02 a.m. CST
What kind of mental case sings, let alone remembers, the songs in Altman's POPEYE to this day? Oy vey! And that person's vote counts as much as mine? IMPOSSIBLE!
by planetran_fan
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/MIKEVALENTINE/Popeye/POPEYERISES.jpg
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June 26, 2012, 10:04 a.m. CST
Here, I'll sing the 1930's POPEYE songs...Skippy Doo goo giggidy bee boop boom, skitty poo boo buddy bop boo!
by planetran_fan
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Great stuff! Can't wait to see the awesomeness that Genndy creates yet again! I'm curious whatever happened to him doing The Dark Crystal 2?
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June 26, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST
Indeed, birdienumnum, easily one of the best adaptation of a cartoon/comic
by slone13
Anyone who references The Party with their ID can't be wrong.
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I wonder if all the footage still exists.
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June 26, 2012, 10:12 a.m. CST
Planet Tranny needs some attention. Someone give it a hug.
by BirdieNumNum
"I'm mean, I'm mean, I'm mean. You know what I mean!"
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June 26, 2012, 10:13 a.m. CST
I prefer the Popeye cartoons where it's not Bluto...but Brutus.
by riskebiz
I grew up with the character known as Brutus. I'm not a fan of "Bluto".
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/MIKEVALENTINE/Popeye/POPEYERISES.jpg
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June 26, 2012, 10:26 a.m. CST
Saw POPEYE when I was 10. Maybe the audio was bad that day but I couldn't make out SHIT from what they were saying.
by Yotz Von Frelnik
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That's why they make his "speaks" so indecipherable, and part of the humor.
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Shelly Duvall was inspired and Robin Williams showed some promise. Those forearms were real... how they got them to go back to normal in time for him to shoot "Mork & Mindy," is still a question.
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In 3D... I´m not sure about that.
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Dexter's Lab? One joke premise stretched tracing paper thin. I was honestly more interested in the accompanying "Dial M for Monkey" shorts in the first season (and even those were cast aside for the lame "Justice Friends" spoof). <p> <p>Samurai Jack? Cool show, but too episodic, and didn't go anywhere. When the focus was on Jack, Aku and the strange mythic past they shared, it was cool. When it was just on whatever dumbass sci-fi people Jack was helping that week, it was stupid. And he never brought it to a proper conclusion, so really, who cares. <p> <p>Clone Wars micro-series? Alright, but basically Samurai Jack in Star Wars drag, and it overstayed its welcome by the end of the first hour, at best. Dave Filoni's CGI series blows it out of the water, by far. <p> <p>Sym-Bionic Titan? This might've turned out his best work, a serialized series that had potential for something bigger and more interesting. Too bad it got cancelled for not being "toyetic" enough (though really, that makes little sense). <p> <p>Powerpuff Girls? Great show-- BUT IT'S NOT TARTAKOVSKY'S. That was Craig McCracken, who between that and "Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends" is twice the animator Tartakovsky is. Where's all the feverish anticipation for McCracken's next work?
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I dunno, the room seems to get a little dusty when that plays. Other than that, the music sucks, but still, it is a highly unique movie, and not in a bad way. It's especially cool how they brought cartoon action to live action with traditional effects.
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You owe me an apology.
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You owe me an apology.
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June 26, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST
Who gives a shit about this character? Hotel Transylvania looks awful
by Saltoner
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I once tried to watch the live action movie. I barfed.
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June 26, 2012, 11:22 a.m. CST
What? No mention of Popeye's Voyage: The Quest for Pappy?
by Blue_Demon
The great Billy West voiced Popeye! When I was a kid I loved drawing Popeye because he was easy to put down on paper. Man, I had him take on everyone and everything. Godzilla, the Hulk, Monster Zero. Drawing at the kitchen table. Good times, good times. Sorry for the nostalgia. I'm old.
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June 26, 2012, 11:51 a.m. CST
NO mention of the elephant in the room?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by DarthBlart
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June 26, 2012, 11:52 a.m. CST
Are we sure it's not another live action cgi abomination?
by Tom Fremgen
I have faith in Genndy, but not in Hollywood. So until I see a trailer, I'll assume this is another Smurfs, Yogi Bear turd.
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Did anyone else watching the movie feel like they took the people from Fiddler on the Roof, moved them to a small fishing village, and made Popeye their neighbor? Popeye is a one note character. Popeye likes girl. Bigger guy takes girl and beats him up. Popeye eats spinach, beats up bigger guy and gets girl back. Now stretch that to 90 minutes.
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June 26, 2012, 12:48 p.m. CST
I saw "Popeye" at the drive-in when I was 5. The octopus scared the shit out of me.
by Playkins
Ruined octopi for me forever.
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I said earlier that the music sucks, but really most of it is okay to good. It's the trudging, almost lyric-free opening song that I think is downright awful.
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...I love that it utilized characters from E.C. Segar's THIMBLE THEATRE that many weren't familiar with from the animated incarnations (Popeye was the first 'Fonzie', really...a secondary character that became a 'breakout' star). Love the simplistic and charming music by Harry Nilsson...Love that Jules Feiffer wrote it (Jules FEIFFER!) and I love the design most of all. It was a the comic come to life in a completely believable way. Did you know that the Sweet Haven set was SO well constructed that it's STILL THERE and used as a tourist attraction in Malta? How a movie that doubled its budget in box office is considered a flop is beyond me.
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Have Popeye fighting Somalian pirates?
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Last viewing was in 2011- did a Drinking game of it! You owe me an apology: drink
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I always took her name to be a Merry Melodies type racist jab at one of the characters' ethnic background. She's an Italian-American, Olive Oyl, no? Bafangoo.
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June 26, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST
"Freakish Strength thru Spinach" <--- Ivan Drago reference LOL
by Seth Brundle
Reporter on Ivan Drago press demonstration -So how do you explain his...freakish strength Ludmilla -Like your Popeye!, he eats his spinach every day!
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The very best POPEYE episodes were the earliest black and white ones where the eyes are just black-no whites. The artistry is just amazing. Just some of the best stuff ever.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbHTaPk8Qmk
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The creator of Popeye said that he originally wanted garlic to be the "super strength" formula. After all garlic is "strong." But he made a deal with the spinach growers lobby and then it became spinach.
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You think any Star Wars related toon that has a teen girl padawan calling Anakin "sky guy" outdoes the animated shorts? Your opinions' legitimacy trap door has just sprung open and you plunged down it like Wile E. Coyote...........paff.........
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And no, I don't think that was the origin. She would have been much more distinctly and stereotypically Italian if it was.
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Remember when he wound up and slugged the octopus so hard it went flying up into the sky? What a ridiculously hilarious shot. Watched it with my two young daughters and we laughed our asses off. If you don't "get" it, you don't get PeeWee Herman and you don't get the Three Stooges and you don't get half of the funny shit from Blazing Saddles. Too bad!
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http://www.searchmytrash.com/articles/michaelvalentine(6-12).shtml
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June 26, 2012, 2:33 p.m. CST
Malificus: You stopped watched after a few episodes didn't you?
by Superponte
Clone Wars, following the first few episodes, and into season 2+ became an outstanding show. Ahsoka is actually an outstanding character. Makes me wish she was in the prequels.
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June 26, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST
"Modern audiences have zero interest in retreads of 1930's time capsule properties."
by I Max U Mini
Yeah, like anyone would be interested in stupid shit like Batman, Superman, or Conan the Barbarian.
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which will remain untold in the new movie. which is why its the untold origin.
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"He needs me, he needs me, he needs me, he needs me, he needs meeeeeeee..." The original cartoons were hilarious: Good. The fact that Popeye wasn't in Who Framed Roger Rabbit due to copyright issues: Bad. The Altman movie's intentions: Good. Dave Coulier's Popeye impersonation: Bad.
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June 26, 2012, 3:33 p.m. CST
Haven't seen Popeye since i was like 11, but from what I remember...
by Christian Sylvain
Robin Williams was completely spot on as the lead. Never before had I been convinced that an actor could so thoroughly become his/her character until I saw Popeye. Don't really remember the movie itself being all that good, but the way you guys are describing it, maybe I should give Popeye another viewing.
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The set design, the costumes , the casting ,the performances, the songs and the orchestral score are all perfect, but the story ( the most important part of the movie) is just all over the place- its just a bunch of stuff happening with no sense of direction. If the story was as strong as the everything else as the movie then, robert altmans popeye wouldnt be as widely criticised as it is. Also, a new CGI popeye movie could be great ,but for it to work, it has to stick to formula of the cartoons . If they try to modernize it with popeye being a skateboard riding teen at sweethaven high who downloads a spinach app to his phone , then it will be dead on arrival.
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Honestly, I often wonder why every old cartoon or comic must be adapted into a live action movie? If you think it's hard to turn some property into a film, maybe it's because you have to make it realistic. Why not turn an old popular cartoon into a big budget Disney-style animated movie? I realize they want to aim things at older folks, but couldn't something like The Smurfs have been made into a high quality animated feature, instead of a bland CGI/live action movie that both adults AND children don't like?
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Fucking awesome. Thought it ruled as a kid. Best part was listening to my German mom recite her favorite lines. Hysterical. Adding to Netflix queue post haste. Oh and whoever suggested Jackie Earle Haley, excellent call. Never would of thought of it, perfect casting.
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but i also stopped watching because i really am not a fan of the animation style and being an artist i am really very forgiving and open minded on style but i dont like the computer animated Thunderbirds look. I'm gonna back-shelve that show for a while and re-discover it a few years from now when there's no new Doctor Who to watch.
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but i also stopped watching because i really am not a fan of the animation style and being an artist i am really very forgiving and open minded on style but i dont like the computer animated Thunderbirds look. I'm gonna back-shelve that show for a while and re-discover it a few years from now when there's no new Doctor Who to watch.
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June 26, 2012, 4:36 p.m. CST
I would love to see a cleaned up print of Altman's movie in the theater. This movie practically babysat me as a kid (it was on hbo like every other day)
by dahveed1972
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As others have noted, if they ever want to do another live-action version, they need to start cloning Shelly Duvall right now. Whatever flaws the Altman movie had, that woman was born to play Olive Oyl.
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Loved the Popeye movie when it first came out! Now it seems so small in scale and cheesy! But damn that movie had a great cast!
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1. They didn't do Popeye eating spinach until near the very end of the film. Imagine if any cartoon hero didn't play the hero until the last ten minutes of the film. Like, imagine Alfred forcing Bruce Wayne to get off his ass and go be Batman with 10 minutes left in the film. 2. To my young eyes it looked like Fiddler On The Roof 2: Even Fiddlier. FOTR always put me to sleep as a kid. 3. Robin Williams to me was a manic funny guy (this was before I knew about cocaine) and he was playing it really low key to me back then. BUT i haven't seen it since the 1990s now so I can't really judge it as an adult. But I gotta admit, Shelley Duvall was born to play Olive Oyle.
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June 26, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
Hey i_max_u_mini, read the rest of the comment, you mouthbreather
by gruntybear
Had you bothered to read the entire comment, I excepted superheroes because they're contemporary stories -- constantly being updated and re-told in another medium. The pulp characters that I mention always, always, always fail. And yes, I would put Conan in that category. Or did you not see the belly-flop that that Conan remake did just recently? Fucking millenials. Can't fucking read.
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Great minds. Or weak stomachs. I guess. The question is, we both threw up, but did we both fail to have super-powers after? I'll never tell.
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June 26, 2012, 6:29 p.m. CST
ive got a few ideas about this movie...my own personal "Casting Couch"
by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage
Popeye = Either Jim Carrey or Jack Mcbrayer Bluto/Brutus = Alec Baldwin or Russel Crowe Olive Oyl = Elle Kemper wimpy = Lous C.K. Get the cohen bros to do this right & you have gold
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Ray Walston played Poopdeck Pappy, not Hume Croyn.
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Thats a great ww2 propaganda film. He shows those buck toothed Japs what for!
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The only real defining factor of Popeye, besides his eye, pipe and speech pattern, is the fact that the spinach is the dues ex machina of the strips and cartoons. It went against audience expectations that he hates spinach, that he always had. Then it's a bit of a cathartic release when his Pappy feeds it to him when he's down. Then it's a hurrah moment and we get the complete character. I thought it was an inspired choice. I've always loved the Popeye movie. I think that everything pretty much hits, and if it doesn't, there's so much earnestness behind it, that you just kind of accept some of the absurdity. Williams really brought a huge amount of depth and charisma to a character that is truly two dimensional. Bah...I could go on and on. It's on constant play around here, cause my kids love it. Bless 'em!
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June 26, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST
I talked my three young kids into watching this a few years ago
by m00kiedood
Told them that I remembered it being funny. They have never forgiven me. It's taken years to re-earn their trust when I recommend movies, so that I don't hear "yeah dad, that's what you said about Popeyes." And they were pretty much right. It is unique and brilliant, and fine in small doses. And it comes close to being very good, but ends up being a few inspired moments spaced apart by many drawn out annoying ones.
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Base it on the old Segar strips, not those formulaic "Bluto beats up Popeye, Popeye eats spinach, Popeye beats up Bluto" cartoons. I think POTC has opened up peoples' fascination with the sea again and it could work as a fun oceanic adventure. I likes to go swimmin' With bow-legged wimmin I'm Popeye the Sailor man!
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June 26, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST
Jesus, the users on this site consistently have the most godawful taste I
by master_of_realty
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June 26, 2012, 9:37 p.m. CST
I feel like I'm rubbernecking to see the gruesome wreckage of a car crash.
by master_of_realty
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seen the trailer for hotel transylvania? He's more about making deals than creating anything original. In other words, a HACK.
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June 26, 2012, 10:08 p.m. CST
I actually got a Popeye stuffed doll out of one of those crane machines at a pizza joint a few months back
by Nasty In The Pasty
I wish like HELL I had went for the matching Bluto doll, but I was out of quarters. :(
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he can't DIRECT?! a HACK?!?!?! Sure, you stick to that. I feel as if Sandler's involvement is giving 'Hotel Transylvania' the short end of the stick.
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Popeye and Olive walk into the doorway with Sweet Pea and Bluto sees them together. Bluto gets pissed and turns red Cut back to Popeye, Olive and Sweet Pea framed EXACTLY in the same way as before, except the set is painted pure red and their wardrobe is pure red. if NOTHING else in that movie was hilarious or clever, let THAT be.
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The show needed a few episodes to find its legs but The few episodes that took place on the aliens home planet are examples of some of the best 2-D animation ever.
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I always loved that movie as a kid I taped it one day as a kid and would watch it repeatedly over and over. It was the probably the 1st prequel I ever watched.
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Watched it a bajillion times on HBO in the 80's, as a kid. Brilliant, underrated movie. Hopefully Genndy hews closer to the strips.
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super strong without the spinach. He just goes into overdrive with it.
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I hate that word.
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June 27, 2012, 5:11 a.m. CST
As a kid I loved this movie too. It's a kids movie first and foremost. Movies like that demonstrate the pointlessness of movie reviews!
by HanYoYo
Movies are made to capture the heart of audiences. Obviously they aren't able to capture everyone's. That's impossible. And when it comes to movies designed for kids the opinion of reviewers becomes even less significant than if they are reviewing a movie aimed at the reviewers age-group. As others have suggested – who cares if you don't like the Popeye movie!? But to deny the production design and overall look of the movie is pathetic. That film, regardless of whether you cared for the story was incredibly unique and has to be admired for it's visuals. Even the central performances were pretty amazing. Sure, I don't care for the film now, as an adult, just I don't care to watch lots of things from era in my life.
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that was awful
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SOMEBODY SAID ALTMAN'S POPEYE WAS "PRETENTIOUS"! THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE READ ALL DAY! Poor little man. Is it shooting over your head? Is Robin Williams' performance of a cartoon character based on a comic strip to heady for you? Good Lord, that's funny.
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might be the perfect chance to get away from voice actors trying to do Jack Mercer imitations
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June 27, 2012, 1:19 p.m. CST
I had a friend who swore Robin Williams arms were not prosthetics
by werewolfbynight
He claimed Robin Williams excercised his forearms until they reached Popeye proportions. I called bullshit on that claim imediately. He said he had read it in Starlog or Fangoria or maybe Cinefantastique. This was where we got our information prior to the internet. Dan (Flounder) Skaggs was never able to provide proof of this statement. Has anyone else ever read this?
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He's LUCKY sander is there to make sense of things. Everyone knows sander's calling all the shots anyway. This is a good thing, as tardokrapsky can't tell a story.
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