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THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN has a 25 minute preview... it's probably best to avoid it.

Hey folks, Harry here...   Sometimes things happen online - and we have an opportunity to see a large chunk of a film - I'm one of those people that can't help themselves.   This fan assembled 25min cut of THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN is really well put together, making use of all the footage from trailers, clips and behind the scenes to be a little mini-version of the film.  The word that comes from the Japan preview of THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN which took place this weekend is pretty spectacular sounding.   The film is coming shortly - but if you just can resist, here's the candy you're wanting...   I can not wait for this one!


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  • June 25, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Headline made me laugh...

    by Superponte

    yeah..probably for the best.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    cue the haters in 5...4...3...2...1...

    by thepoohguy

  • June 25, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Okay, I'll watch it.

    by tylerzero

  • June 25, 2012, 4:02 p.m. CST

    The Paris premier review is less than glowing.

    by Simon Butler

  • June 25, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Its best to avoid the 136 minute cut also

    by animas

    I will be.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST

    nothing will top the 02 spiderman

    by mick vance

    because i lost my virginity in the theater while it was playing. i wonder whatever happened to that toothless hag...

  • June 25, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST

    I can wait...

    by adeceasedfan

    a very long time.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST

    this has NOTHING to do with Prometheus!!!

    by Lostboytejas


  • June 25, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    I can't wait to miss it!

    by Ricky Retardo

  • June 25, 2012, 4:06 p.m. CST

    I stopped watching the previews, clips, etc a while ago...

    by Detached

    I am very much looking forward to the movie, though.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Okay, so it's not a 25 minute preview --

    by MooseMalloy

    -- but since it was done by a "Fan" we'll all watch it with big grins on our faces. I haven't watched those incredible "documentaries" on Raiders either.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST

    That much footage shared, and still virtually no buzz.

    by kevred

    It'll make money. It's pretty hard to not make money these days, especially with a property that would make money on its name alone. A lot of people will see it, and a lot will like it. And everyone will forget about it when TDKR comes out. I've said this before - the shame of this is that they failed to make an event out of this. Spidey should be up there with Batman, not coming across like a Fox Fantastic Four film. They've somehow succeeded in making this film look small and of second-tier importance. Whatever Raimi's failings, he made three event movies. Now imagine Marvel Studios making a Spidey film. THAT would be an event, talk about buzz overload.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Bad marketing or they are scared?

    by Shaun1138

    When a studio keeps releasing footage it always seems to be they feel the audience is not convinced, so they want to spoon feed to hopefully hook. I have always felt a reboot was to soon, and this film doesn't look that great to me. I will wait for dvd.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:14 p.m. CST

    this might be the best film of the summer!!!

    by JaredP

    you know it's going to kick all kinds of ass!!!

  • June 25, 2012, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Chucky vs Spiderman

    by DOYLE1

  • June 25, 2012, 4:17 p.m. CST

    done by a fan

    by saintsaucey

    Never mind then.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST

    No J. Jonah Jameson

    by film11

    = No sale!

  • Sony is terrified they have a turkey on their hands, and for all intents and purposes they do, so keep trying to desperately create interest in a all but totally disinterested public. There's not going to be a sequel. Fork. Insert. Done.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Cue the plants in 3. .2. . 1

    by Ingeld

    Hey this looks kind of good, better than Raimi's. I think I will give it a try.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:26 p.m. CST

    The haters "hate" because this film sucks

    by Rupee88

    It's obvious from every trailer and every fake. I know you are trying to spin it into a success, but it will still suck despite how many dumb people you trick into paying to see it.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST

    It's getting good reviews

    by eric haislar

    and is on track to make 125 million opening weekend. I would say people want to see it. Haters hate just to hate. Judge a film when you see it not before.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:31 p.m. CST

    I have to make a #2

    by Anita Hummer

    This looks like a turd in a box. Disrespect for the source material, serious change in the established cannon of the character. produced by ball-less soul-less corporate suckers of satan's pecker. Sign me up.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:32 p.m. CST

    And a limey poofter as spidey!

    by Anita Hummer

  • June 25, 2012, 4:35 p.m. CST

    I'm still interested in seeing it-

    by A_Banned_Apart

    -but I admit that the more footage I see, the less interested I become. Still holding out a wee bit o' hope they can pull it off.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:38 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    Please tell me how this disrespects the source material and changes the cannon of the character? Have you seen the film? Everything that is important to the character as a whole is still present.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:41 p.m. CST

    they shouldnt mess witj the comic continuity!

    by Richard

    Next thing you know, they'll start having more than one continuity in the comics as well.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST

    I'm not a "hater," more of a "disinterested-er."

    by NeonFrisbee

    I have no stake in this one way or the other; if it makes a mint (unlikely), "underperforms" (MUCH more likely), or totally bombs (it won't do THAT bad; I'm sure there's at least enough 10 year olds in the world to keep it afloat for a week or two in second place), it makes no difference to me, it's just... I know a turkey when I see one, and this? This looks like a turkey. And NOBODY cares. Nobody outside of the 4 or 5 people here who think it looks aces. Everybody else (and by "everybody else" I mean people in the real world with lives) doesn't care. They already made these movies, like, 2 years ago, and two of them were good. It's done. Over. Nothing left to say. This is just dragging the dead horse around the track and pretending it's shiny and new (instead of soon-to-be glue).

  • June 25, 2012, 4:44 p.m. CST

    It's getting good reviews

    by Rupee88

    it's getting bad reviews:

  • June 25, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar 11 reviews = 10 fresh + 1 Rotten.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST

    The look of the Lizard

    by monkey_tamer

    Cannot be any worse than the absolutely horrible Power Rangers-version of the Green Goblin we got in the first go around.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:50 p.m. CST


    by Pipple

    That is all.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    You've convinced me. . . to go the the Redbox Kiosk in 6 months

    by WerePlatypus


  • June 25, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST

    one name will fail this

    by klytusnotdead

    That no talent hack emma stone, uggh her ugly face

  • June 25, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST

    This Spidey...

    by dvdhound

    ...seems a bit more whimsical than the last cinematic iteration. However, it is more in line with the comic book characterization. Spidey, especially the teenage version would be that snarky, and humorous. Count me amongst the interested.

  • No wonder this Spidey looks like a fuckin' emo. i have little to no hope for this film. the only thing i liked was the web shooters vs. the lame organic ones in Raimi's films.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:56 p.m. CST

    I don't care to see this movie at all...

    by kungfuhustler84

    and now because of this I never have to! Thanks!

  • June 25, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST

    I hate to kill Sony for making a mistake...

    by Dick Jones

    ...and that mistake being Spider-Man 3. Seriously, who the fuck do we hold responsible for that disaster?

  • June 25, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST


    by Ringwearer9

    Look, I was underwhelmed by the first teaser trailer, which made it look like "The Dark Spider-Man Rises" in tone, but the later trailers sold me. Spider-Man for me has always been about Peter Parker's hot girlfriends causing him trouble, wisecracking, WEBSLINGING THROUGH MANHATTAN, and the occasional awesome villain. This movie has Emma Stone, who is completely hot and funny and smart, and will be worth seeing the movie for on her own, Spidey wisecracking while glueing up pickpockets, and one of the most awesome supervillains of the Spidey canon, The Lizard. Sure, his Lizard mask isn't quite as lizardy as I'd like, but ... he's the fucking Lizard anyway. The night-time webslinging action looks awesome, and that alone is enough to give me a great Spidey buzz and make me forgive a lot of things that might otherwise be wrong the the film. On top of that, even though it seems the film is messing with traditional Spidey mythology, and giving Peter's parents some kind of role in Peter's eventual superpowers .... isn't that kinda refreshing in a reboot? I mean, one of the things we were all upset about in this franchise "rebooting" was that we were going to see the fucking origin story all over again .... well, here's an origins story we've never really seen before! So that's kinda intriguing. And although I am a big Sam Raimi fan, and actually learned to like Spider-Man 3 after seeing what Raimi did with "Drag Me to Hell" (they are both basically stories about demonic temptation, possession, and falls to the dark side) there was a heaviness to the human side of the story that I didn't quite appreciate on first viewing, since I felt Spider-Man was much lighter in tone. I kinda want to see this lighter-in-tone Spider-Man. I kinda don't mind the cockier presence of Garfield's Peter/Spidey in this. Of course, the trailers could be totally lying to us all and it's actually going to be the "Dark Spider-Man Rises" that the very first teaser promised us, in which case I'll be very bummed out, and all the badass-loving gritty " Dark Knight fans will be praising to the heavens. I so want this movie to be good. I've stopped watching the trailers once the first two official ones did their job on me, and I skipped the 4 minute action sequence .. (why spoil what is probably one of the big action scenes for myself ahead of time?). I think I'm going to have to defend this movie in these talkbacks from now on. I don't get the hate. I don't understand the people who are hating on it, based on very flimsy and petty reasons.

  • June 25, 2012, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Okay, maybe a lil' interested...

    by kungfuhustler84

    I mean c'mon, it's Spider-Man! But for some reason, I'm getting a bad vibe with this one. It's not the cast or the villain, just a combination of all these other elements, and the fact that Sony is just making this movie to keep the property rights, that has me wary.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST

    One more thing

    by kungfuhustler84

    HOLLYWOOD, FUCK OFF WITH THE ORIGIN STORIES!!! Plenty of comic book movies, Blade, Hellboy, etc. begin in medias res and the audience has no trouble catching up and having fun. I just don't care to watch another hour and a half of Peter Parker learning about responsibility in high school I just. Don't. Care.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:03 p.m. CST

    FUCK this remake SHIT!!!!!

    by CallMeSNAKEimeanPLISKEN

    and FUCK JAY LENO!!!

  • June 25, 2012, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Sam Raimi Sucks!

    by AnarchyWorldsEnd

    Webb's take looks like it will surpass the originals. They have clearly taken the cue from what Marvel Studios is doing. I bet they work something out and Spidey Makes at least a cameo appearance in a Marvel Studios flick by Avengers 3

  • The Raimi Spider-man films are just plain awful. Nearly as bad as that recent Green Lantern abortion.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:12 p.m. CST

    No thank you. Do not want.

    by Rex Carsalot

  • June 25, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST

    I see studio plants here trying to save this ridiculous reboot.

    by Rex Carsalot

  • June 25, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST


    by Eli_Cash

    No reason whatsoever to see this movie now. Thankyou fan-editor. This just makes a boycott easier. And the stupidity on display here makes it easier to convince people not to see it.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:14 p.m. CST

    FUCK this remake SHIT!!!!! part 2

    by CallMeSNAKEimeanPLISKEN

    Listen.............Do you hear that SONY?? Sounds like crickets right? You know what that is? Its the buzz for this "BIG" summer blockbuster Spiderman remake! It's the sound of nobody GIVING A SHIT!!!!! Seriously, the last movie I went to had this piece of shit movie's trailer in front of it and the entire sold out theater was dead silent during the preview. DEAD SILENT!! Way to go Sony, Fucking up spiderman for the world. Way to go! and FUCK JAY LENO!!!!!

  • June 25, 2012, 5:15 p.m. CST

    not even interested in the slightest

    by cozy

  • June 25, 2012, 5:22 p.m. CST

    I'll mention it since no one else has hit it yet

    by Dubb2814

    Will this be known as the "Amazing Un-masked Spider-Man" because once again I'm seeing more of Garfield and that Ace Ventura/ Twilight-Edward hair than I am the classic Spider-Man mask.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Saw It Last Weekend

    by kafunshoo

    I saw it last weekend. I am many things but I'm not a plant...... It's great. I can understand a lot if the negative buzz as it seems too soon to reboot Spidey. But if Raimis and MacGuire had done Spiderman 4 that would have been released last year and Sony had to move ahead in order to keep the rights. After the first 30 minutes you will forget all about the earlier Spiderman films. It works really well. Why do people sound happy if a movie fails? I hate to dissapoint you but it is easily better than Spiderman 1 and is as much fun as Spiderman 2. Garfield's Spidey is CLOSER to the comic book spiderman than MacGuires.

  • Piece Of Shit

  • June 25, 2012, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Looks like Shit

    by Todd1700

    The guy playing Peter Parker looks like he should be in one of those teenie bopper finger bang bands on the Disney Channel. He looks like one of the fucking Jonas Brothers. And from the trailers I have watched he appears to be playing Peter just as douchey as he looks The trailers look like utter crap. I've seen better looking CGI in movies made for the Sci-fi channel.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Avengers has made other comic book movies obsolete

    by Volllllume3

    What's the point?

  • Just change the cast, director, etc. and move on with a new Spider-man movie. No origin story. As bad as Spider-man 3 was, the original trilogy hadn't gone off the rails in tone like Batman's nipple suits. They could have just let Webb make his Spider-man story with Raimi's framework in place and you wouldn't have the confusion and anger over the 5-year reboot.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:35 p.m. CST

    I tapped out after 12 minutes

    by SmokeFilledTavern

    There's nothing to spoil here because there is literally nothing we haven't seen before in countless hyped superhero films.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:37 p.m. CST


    by Rupee88

    Early reviews are the payola reviews...we'll see what % is in two weeks. And it is getting a lot of bad reviews because it is sucks unless you are a dopey 8 y/o.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:38 p.m. CST

    whedonfan79 - plant

    by Rupee88

    another studio plant...can't you guys at least try to come up with a comment that isn't transparently fake and manipulative?

  • June 25, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST

    cant wait to see this one.

    by undead_uncle_ben

    i just know its gonna be great.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST

    @floatingholmes - very well said. :)

    by kevred

    I think that pretty well sums it up.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Too silver.

    by Triple_J_72

    Remember that one? hehe

  • June 25, 2012, 5:49 p.m. CST


    by Megaforce

    They made a Spiderman film Please let Marvel produce in future

  • Having his parents in the movie, some of the actin, like that scene with the doorman, even the scene they showed on the bridge. The dialogue and acting seems bad. Lizard looks like a he is from V. I'm just not jazzed by this movie. Some of the shots of Spider-man, swinging around looks cool, but it looks like the plot and dialogue is weak. The movie will break $200 million easily though.

  • June 25, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST

    So many plants in this talkback.

    by Jonathan


  • June 25, 2012, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Kids will love this. Anyone over 16, not as much

    by Cobb05

    They might as well have called this Spider-man: Twilight Rising

  • Seriously just look at the poster, and they look like the same terrible design. Stillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKSSSS!!!

  • June 25, 2012, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Watched it. Honestly did not enjoy at all. Franchise is lost.

    by Erik Radvon

    I'm not commenting to spew hate or to troll, but I watched all 25 minutes and can honestly say I did not enjoy it. Martin Sheen was good in his few scenes, other than that the footage comes off as very lame. The collective product seems like something on par with Ghost Rider or Daredevil, not Sony's flagship franchise. What a tremendous waste of the character and the incredible mythos that surround him. Sony execs should be shitting themselves, because this movie looks destined to tank.

  • Yeah, they may have changed a few things here and there. Introducing Gwen Stacy first for example, but it just feels like the 2002 Spiderman did it all before and just as good. I just can't see any real improvement in this one except for the obvious better special effects. But considering it's ten years past the original, the CGI damn well better be improved.

  • June 25, 2012, 6 p.m. CST

    Doorman Scene

    by kafunshoo

    That scene isn't in the theatrical cut I saw in Japan. Ive never been in the position before of having seen a Big Summer Blockbuster earlier than a lot of people so I find a lot of the attitudes towards the film depressing. A lot of you HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET. Once you have seen it you will most likely change your minds. If you hate movies so much why do you post on a Movie Website?

  • June 25, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Twilight Spandex or Facebook Tights

    by Franck

    'nough said.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    I wasn't going to piss on this

    by Crude

    But they spent $215 million+ on this?? On THAT CGI?!! Are they completely insane?! That looks like a low budget bargain basement CGI Lizard. How can anyone in charge of the Special Effects department be satisfied with what is on the screen? This thing is going to bomb Godzilla-1998 hard.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Absolutely AWESOME!!!

    by The Cheese Grommitt

    I know this is high praise but I get a Spielberg vibe especially from the character moments. Looking forward to this.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Remember when we were all CLAMORING for a Spider-Man movie... at all?

    by Triple_J_72

    My, how times have changed.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Saw this tonight...

    by Jay Jay

    Totally unnecessary and pointless. Brings nothing new to the Spider-Man universe. Too soon and too similar to the Raimi movies. A few enjoyable moments but we've seen it all before... Garfield is fine but the villain is weak. 3D is barely noticeable except for a handful of shots. Score is forgettable (where are the THEMES???). If you liked Raimi's films then you'll like this. nothing special.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    sequel to be called "The Spectacular Spider-Man"

    by Jubba

    and the third? ideas? Ultimate? Web Of? Friendly Neighborhood? Vengeful? 2099?

  • June 25, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    So am I not supposed to question how

    by Dubb2814

    in the blue hell he gets all of that mop in that mask?

  • And I say this as a lifelong Spidey fan, but Raimi's first SM film was a complete disappointment. 2 was good, 3... uhh. This film looks frigging great. Anyone thinking otherwise clearly hasn't read a Spider-Man comic in the last 30 years. Also, unless you attended the screening in Japan, you haven't seen it. So shut the fuck up, you whining pricks. Or better yet, just don't see it. It'll make my cinema-going experience so much better come July 3rd.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:15 p.m. CST


    by Triple_J_72

    My choice would be "Spidey Super Stories" ;-)

  • June 25, 2012, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Lone Fox

    by Jay Jay

    It screened in Dublin, Ireland tonight. I was there. Fact!

  • June 25, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Also saw it at the weekend...

    by AndoSoundsLikeAMong

    I sent in my thoughts to the site but I guess the decision was not to bother putting up comments from Japan... Anyway, it isn't bad, but it just doesn't do anything new. Also there is a magnitude of false advertising. Almost all the lines in the trailer about his parents just aren't in the film (e.g. "come and get me if you want to know the truth about your parents"). That's the reason for the reboot but they decided to keep it all for the next film - *after* they cut the trailers. So we are left with familiar territory. Lizard really feels too much like Goblin - quite similar arc, especially at the start. It isn't bad (and we still don't have Avengers in Japan so I haven't been tainted by that yet) but it just doesn't justify it's existance especially well. Spidey does some cool stuff during the fights. And yeah, the mask is off all the time.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST

    ... or maybe just call the sequel "Peter Parker: Spider-Man"

    by Triple_J_72

    Because we all know these movies are 95% Peter Parker, right? ;-)

  • Had no idea... imagine that... Peter Parker got bit by a spider, and this is why he became a so-called "Spider-Man." However, the spider was not radioactive, as previously reported, but a SUPER-SPIDER genetically engineered.... by an albino bodybuilder from outer space! *bwa-bwa-bbwaaaaaaa!*

  • June 25, 2012, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Did someone up top say cue the haters?

    by Full Tilt

    No seriously. I hate this movie's entire premise. You can't remake a movie that's only ten years old. Even if the cast didn't want to come back, recast, and just tell a different story. I think 007 movies have long proven you can recast iconic characters, and even go in a different conceptual feel and you'll be fine. I have no interest in seeing an origin story all over again. Especially since the last go at was spectacular, and for me still sits as the pinnacle of 21st century comic book adaptations. Of the decades of Spiderman stories they literally picked the one i have no interest in seeing on film, cause it was already done, and really well. The clincher? Apparently Peter Parker is "brooding" now. Cause that's what I think of with Spiderman. It could be called by critics, "A combination of 'Citizen Kane,' 'The Empire Strikes back,' and the 'Dark Knight,' " and the best the studio could hope for me is eventually one day watching it Netflix, because I'm not paying one penny to see a story I've already seen and that on top of seems pretty doubtful that it can be even as good as.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:32 p.m. CST

    As a comic geek, I feel obliged to see it

    by Dubb2814

    It's just alot of what I've seen thus far hasn't wowed me just yet. It really may be just too soon for this reboot. Alot of the principals are have said the right things and the casting is mostly spot on but the tone and the depiction of the villian remain legit question marks in my mind. I hope two weeks from know we're remarking about how awesome it was and how we can't wait for a sequel. That is ultimatley what I want but from what I've been shown I'm just not excited...yet. Fingers crossed, here's hoping...

  • June 25, 2012, 6:34 p.m. CST

    re andosonundskikeamong

    by kafunshoo

    Though I disagree a little with your comments as I really enjoyed the film my only problem with the Lizard was what I call "The Incredible Hulk" Factor where the actor's performance is lost within the CGI. I think a lot of Spidermans Rogues Gallery share similar origin stories. I think the film could benefit from not having much buzz as I went in with zero expectation and enjoyed it a lot. But you are right no one was really clamoring for A new Spider Man movie.

  • You really have to ask that? All the bulk of the talkbackers do these days is hate. It's clever and cool to hate ( at leats they think so ). It's a little like the flash mob mentality. That and everyone's who disagrees is a studio plant! Geez!

  • June 25, 2012, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Re Jay Jay

    by kafunshoo

    Im not questioning that you saw the film and your opinion is totally valid but in what way did you feel it was too similar to the Rami version? I felt it worked quite well in being different from the earlier films. I loved it but anyone who has seen it has a right to their opinion. But you have to agree its better than Spiderman 3!

  • June 25, 2012, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Defending Spider-Man 3

    by Ringwearer9

    I was one who actually didn't mind Spider-Man 3 that much. Compared to Spider-Man 2 it had a lot less bitching and whining between Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson, mainly because the story was so crammed with supervillains that there was relatively little time for it. But compared to the first two films, it really delivered the superhero battle bang-for-the buck, didn't it? I mean, Spidey rescuing Gwen from the smashed up office building ... Peter battling Sandman in the subway tunnels, the final battle among webs and skyscrapers with giant Sandman and Venom ... And you have to give the film credit for working as hard as it did to make all those story elements work together. Sam and Ivan Raimi's script took what was probably studio insisted upon element such as Venom and actually wove them into the already existing plot elements, telling a story of Peter's soul being corrupted and redeemed. The much mocked "emo dancing parker" sequence was actually intentionally displaying Parker as being a douche ... almost derisively so ... I think many viewers saw it as unironic, but the film MEANT us to see Parker as being douchey ... and not that awesomely douchey either .... until the semi-funny douchiness culminated in the shock of him slamming Mary Jane to the ground with a backhanded blow! As a Spidey fan, I was horrified ... Peter would never hit Mary Jane! But it was still effective ... the film suckered me in with the goofy douchebag dancing antics, and then delivered THAT! I really think the bad rap that Spidey 3 has recieved is unfair in many ways. I understand it from a Spidey fan's point of view, but as a movie in it's own right, it's kinda amazing. Fantastic photography, a complicated moral meditation on responsibility for one's actions, and how they might affect other people's lives and moral choices (the way Peter's douchiness pushes the guy who turns into Venom to the Dark Side .... Peter's forgiveness of Sandman as the opposite way to go) ... fantastic music! The guy took Elfman's themes and made them his own, and the music really never sounded better!

  • June 25, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST


    by Wacky Packages

    Not that Spider-man is all that amazing outside of a comic book. But it looks pretty good.

  • June 25, 2012, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Instinctive Meh

    by BartReviews

    I think there's a subconscious sense of corporate-studio-cash-grab that naturally makes Spidey fans cringe even before they see the first frame. Sony would be better off profit sharing with Disney/Marvel to join the larger universe instead of a glossed-up retread.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:01 p.m. CST

    corporate cash ins always suck

    by alienindisguise

    and that will never change. It's just a shame so much of their stupidity has infiltrated the comic world.

  • I'm about half way through Essential Amazing Spider-Man Vol#1 Like or hate Raimi's flicks all you want but his 1st movie co-oped much of Amazing Fantasy #15 & ASM #1 to be the roots.... This new one I'm very doubtful.... Especially with the parents..

  • June 25, 2012, 7:08 p.m. CST


    by kafunshoo

    In the new movie the issue with his parents is basically a big McGuffin.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:10 p.m. CST

    spiderman 3 RingWearer9

    by kafunshoo

    You are right on a lot of points but Spiderman 3 was totally ruined by the studios insistence on Venom being shoehorned in.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Sony doesn't give a shit how good this movie is because....

    by SEVGN

    They're just making the movie in the contractually allotted time to keep Spiderman at their studio. Marvel has most of their A-list titles at other studios...X-Men to Fox, Spiderman at Sony, Fantastic Four...uh, where ever. This is why none of those characters made cameos in The Avengers movie, despite the fact that they all live in NY. The point is that if Sony fails to make a Spiderman movie every few years, the rights revert back to Marvel. But not wanting to pay out Sam Rammi and company big bucks, they went unknowns for nothing and made this film with fingers crossed. If this fails, they'll wait a year and then announce either Sam Rammi returns or a new big director with an all-star cast. Not me talking, just the money.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:15 p.m. CST

    The Raimi films were "perfect"

    by Jack

    If you conveniently ignore the miscasting of Mary Jane, how Parker/Spider-Man was portrayed (dull and witless), no wise cracks, butchered Death of Gwen Stacy, no mechanical webshooters, Spider-Man with stocky Tom Cruise body type, crappy Goblin Ranger costumes, cheesy depiction of New Yorkers, lame version of Venom, good guy Dr. Ock, Mary Jane getting kidnapped every movie, dopey Peter Parker riding a moped delivering pizzas, awkward humor (cookie girl, elevator scene, jazz club, raindrops falling on my head scene), forced puberty/Jesus symbolism, Macy Gray cameo, tongue in cheek acting, tiresome love rollercoaster between Parker and MJ, embarassingly bad crying scenes, shameless pandering to knee jerk patriotism, horrible Macy Gray cameo, Italian Flash Thompson who just makes a cameo, and freaking Nickelback on the soundtrack.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Spider-Man 3 is schlock

    by Dubb2814

    and I'll have words with any man who says otherwise. See: The crying (GOD, the crying) Mary Jane "the bitch" Watson Goblin Jr. Gwen Stacy as a throwaway character, Seriously Sandman wasted Maskless Spider-Man/ Venom (pet peeve of mine) That TV reporter with a British Accent in New York? "The The brutality of it. I - I don't know how he can take anymore". How true. Last but not least: That fucking butler, man. The movie just torpedoed for me the minute he decided to speak up.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:23 p.m. CST

    ijacksparrow ... spot. on.

    by Triple_J_72

  • June 25, 2012, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Rarely there is "good" at the theater any longer.

    by Dingbatty

    There is "passable/mediocre yet enjoyable" and there is "dogshit." Take Avengers, for instance. Enjoyable, fun, snappy, but not the mind-blowing, daring, visionary stuff that could be possible.

  • I'm sure everyone who loves Sam Raimi (he made Evil Dead 2 decades ago, let it go) will say it's not a true Spider-Man movie until that happens.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:29 p.m. CST

    I did like

    by Dubb2814

    Harry vs. douche-Peter in plainclothes (with the symbiote) Spidey vs Sandman in the subway. Bruce Campbell, always Peter striking MJ - only time I felt the suit really changed him, plus that nag deserved it.

  • ...The next director will get None things right.

  • It will be the equivalent of Superman Returns.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST

    They did get Sandman's costume and haircut right, too. Heh.

    by Triple_J_72

  • June 25, 2012, 7:40 p.m. CST


    by master_of_realty

    The movie is not out yet people! For fuck's sake! Yeah, we've seen a lot of footage, but you don't know where it's going ultimately. The fact that you've all already passed judgement on it just goes to show that all you dickheads care about is costumes and how shit looks compared to the THE HOLY COMICS. Nothing new there! Don't call yourselves film fans because you don't care about anything deeper than what's on the surface. And all you "I'm not seeing this" people are fucking bullshitters who know you'll be there on Day One. Fanboys... You're a lovely bunch.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:43 p.m. CST

    organic web shooters > mechanical web shooters

    by maxcherry

  • June 25, 2012, 7:45 p.m. CST

    @ijacksparrow new yorkers are cheesy

    by maxcherry

  • June 25, 2012, 7:48 p.m. CST

    @lone fox, if you have ever read a spiderman comic….

    by maxcherry

    then this movies looks like shit from the previews. I'm going to see it but I have very low expectations for it. From the previews it looks like they are trying make spiderman like batman.

  • June 25, 2012, 7:53 p.m. CST

    not the year of spiderman

    by palewook

    first came the abomination of ultimate spiderman and now this movie. makes me a little sad, really wanted to see the lizard work on the big screen. time to fire up some reruns of spectacular spiderman to wash away all this 2012 spider-crap.

  • so yes the studio's do send plants to be talkbackers or send in fake reviews

  • June 25, 2012, 7:57 p.m. CST


    by master_of_realty

    So you've seen it? How is it? I'm dying for reviews. Please respond. Thanks!

  • June 25, 2012, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Whose bright idea was it

    by Party_Animal_IV

    Whose bright idea was it to release a comic book movie so close to DARK KNIGHT RISES?

  • June 25, 2012, 8:06 p.m. CST

    I usually don't go to flicks on openning day anymore....

    by darthSaul666

    You know I totally understand witholding judgment on a flick until you see it... What gets me is this should also apply to liking a movie before you see it too... Many have passed judgment on this in a positive light before seeing it... Many apologists have been bigger trolls than the usual haters because of this.... For some reason some fan folks have this wierd notion this flick got made to improve on the Raimi movies and basically no other reason at all.. I'm not really judging the movie, only those who shit on those of us who might be skeptical....

  • That's more like the definition of a utter and complete moron. I guess if you like something, then see Marc Webb go take a huge shit on it, you will first pay to take a bite and see if it tastes good before "passing judgment"? There will never be a good adaptation of Spider-Man. People who don't care are making the movies and people who don't care are buying tickets. People who do care are left with nothing to do but avoid the crapfests and complain about what makes them suck.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:07 p.m. CST


    by palewook

    you too can see the 25 minute clip. click on it..

  • June 25, 2012, 8:10 p.m. CST

    by master_of_realty

    There's a difference in being skeptical and saying "Welp, this movie turned out to be shit. Next" a week before the release date.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:11 p.m. CST

    This movie looks horrible. Sony sucks!

    by bat725

  • Granted, it hasn't opened YET and there are only 12 reviews, but the fact that you cunts are still blindly trying to stomp this out is getting really desperate.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST

    sorry seymour

    by palewook

    but not watching the 25 minute preview, then telling anyone who has watched it and saying anyone that has an opinion on what they've just seen isn't fair, is absurd.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Cant even watch this lil bit without being REAL bored!!!


    Yes this movie will be that bad!

  • June 25, 2012, 8:19 p.m. CST

    This kind of proves they have no faith in this movie right?

    by Andrew Coleman

    Even with its constant ad blitz it seems most people could care less about this. I'm sure it will do fine. It is Spider-man but nothing about it seems ground breaking or even really interesting.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:22 p.m. CST


    by master_of_realty

    No one said to not have an opinion on the 25 minute preview. What you all said is "wahhhh This movie sucks!" which is bullshit because all you have seen are clips.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Don't support this

    by WWBD

    This is the worst of the worst kind of reboot - you know, the kind that comes less than 10 years after the original. Don't support that kind of unprecedented Hollywood laziness.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:28 p.m. CST

    People "hate" on it for two reasons

    by wcolbert

    There are those who are just bitter assholes who want to vent their nerd rage across the internet in some desperate hope that someone, somewhere will read what drivel their minds came up with and positively reaffirm their pitiful existence. Everyone wants to feel like their opinion matters. Then there's the others, who aren't bent on defecating all over any project they deem unworthy of their eyeballs, but are still so very, very tired of all of the unoriginal rehashes and reboots that have plagued the world of cinema of late. It's simply not necessary, and people recognize that. There is virtually an infinite number of stories that can be told, millions of books that have been written, and thousands of other comic book characters. There's really no excuse or reason for ramming another one down our throats in such a shameless fashion - they aren't re-booting it because they are trying to rectify whatever mistakes were perceived with the other Spidey films - they are making it in order to milk the Spidey cash cow for all it's worth, to the point where nothing comes out but dust. Bottom line...if you simply must reboot something, there are other projects that would benefit far more than Spider-Man. Green Lantern comes to mind. Fantastic 4. Superman (jury's out on the next one). Oh, and why we've not had any move toward a Batman Beyond adaptation is beyond me. Now THAT might be interesting.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Raimi forever...

    by fauns_bass_1

    Raimi's Spiderman 1 & 2 are definitive for me. This reboot looks terrible and is a complete waste of money that could have been spent on original ideas or at least developing the next chapter in the series. Cinema seems to be eating itself.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Doesn't matter if it's good or bad...

    by PaddyIrishman

    will still earn a truck load back from merchandise. The movie hasn't come out yet and for my son's 5th Birthday at the weekend, he was given what I can only figure was roughly €100 worth of The Amazing Spiderman merchandise as presents from different people. Sony could easily get away with rebooting this every ten years. As a Spiderman fan, I'm already against this movie. But do you think Sony give a shit about the fans?

  • June 25, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    This is not a plant advertisement for the film.

    by Lenny Nero

    This was made by Sleepy Skunk, who has a website and a FB group for several months now that deals with a variety of different aspects of film. I know that doesn't sound like much, but this isn't something serruptitiously put online by Sony or anybody else. Over the weekend, Sleepy Skunk had some major issues with video sites and copyright issues for this.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Everybody shitting on it without seeing it

    by master_of_realty

    just proves that the character is nothing more to them than red and blue tights. They don't even care enough to give it a chance and see where their supposedly beloved Peter Parker, Curt Connors, and Gwen Stacey go in the movie. Nope! It doesn't look exactly like what I wanted so I'm gonna throw a god damn fit like a child and bash the WHOLE MOVIE without even seeing it. Why do you even watch movies? Or read comics for that matter? Just look at colorful pictures of Spider-Man or Superman (he's got the underwear!). You'll have it your way.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Wait, so the black goo was created by the engineers

    by shane peterson

    and then...oh, sorry wrong forum.

  • None of you thought of that? Did you hear the ideas for the fourth entry of that series? The fucking Vultress? Give me a reboot that has mechanical webshooters, a quipping Spider-Man, and that doesn't randomly insert Gwen Stacy into the proceedings three films in after you already told her arc two movies ago, and fucked it up. The idea that Raimi's trilogy is a golden calf is laughable. Those movies, every single one of them, had the SAME EXACT storyline and ending. Oh, and remember that time Aunt May clocked Doc Ock in the face with her cane?

  • Webb's Amazing Spider-Man is every bit the film it needed to be and more. Whilst not absolutely perfect (there are a few strange decisions, Coldplay's Kingdom Come makes an appearance; but it works) it's riskier, bolder and closer to the character than any of Raimi's, all the while carrying a charm (built on chemistry and a very wry script) and subtly in addition to maintaining a comic book silliness. There are situations where its far more cartoony than recent comic book films. Connors relocates his lab into a sewer in half a day without explanation, for example. Thing is, we don't need to know how he did, thats not important. The detail is irrelevant in that case, and I don't care to nit pick bits and pieces like that. Once Spider-Man arrives its fast paced, before he turns up Webb does a great job of building the tension until he does. The action is fluid and dynamic, shot so cleanly and cleverly you don't miss a beat (this aspect of the film absolutely destroys Raimi's), with the execution of Spider-Man's web slinging a quite brilliant and altogether more engaging version of something that was tired and without sensation. The way the camera whips in and out around the action is terrific. The CGI is fantastic, don't be fooled. Emma Stone is endearing as Gwen and is one of the better love interests in any of these films. To say this potential first instalment has left plenty up its sleeve is an understatement; from the teases of Norman Osborne to the non-appearances of J. Jonah Jameson and Mary Jane, with only a cameo from the Daily Bugle, this is a series that has more than enough key elements in reserve to retain its sense of freshness a second time around. The beauty is all those essential threads aren't missed, with their inclusion at a later date all the more satisfying because of it. Furthermore, its also got the best Stan Lee cameo so far.

  • June 25, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST

    I just saved 15 bucks! Thanks AICN!

    by Orionsangels

  • June 25, 2012, 8:54 p.m. CST

    the general public however..

    by Kakii

    Im personally 50/50 on this and am glad Ive got enough points on my Odeon card so Ill see it for free. However most people I know who arent comic book fans think it looks shit and cant comprehend the whole reboot thing, they think it should be spidey 4 by raimi and cant fathom why its an origin story etc. So this could end up being a real miss and money loss for sony. Yes the initial reviews are fair to a degree, however theres no fan reviews yet which are the ones that really matter. Its not quantum physics, please the comic fans and the public will follow! I dont know anyone who didnt think Avengers was awesome and got it, they just dont get the whole reboot of spidey, and its more worrying cos he did an MCR vid who are emo faggots. Wouldnt want that on my CV, id rather have PR for Gary Glitter! I hope it is good, prove us all wrong, but to coin a famous phrase "Ive a bad feeling about this!"

  • June 25, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure people know what a reboot is.

    by master_of_realty

  • June 25, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Still feeling meh about this whole affair

    by D.Vader

    Only a few cool classic Spidey moves and poses every now and then keep me interested.

  • Why does it suck BASED on trailers alone? You can tell it's the SAME three-act structure of the last three, including mask gone in the third act. Say what you will about the new Dredd but at least those fuckers are keeping the helmet on. Goddamn apologists/plants/shills, go fuck yourselves

  • June 25, 2012, 9:01 p.m. CST

    NO, yourmomsbox

    by D.Vader

    Studios don't give a shit about canon. They certainly don't give a shit when Spidey 3 makes more money than either of the first two movies. Therefore, your argument is invalid. No, they wanted a director they could control and actors they could pay less, not players they had to give raises to bc they had made the films such big moneymakers for the studio.

  • June 25, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Sony hired someone to write a reboot script behind Raimi's back

    by D.Vader

    They were looking for any excuse to reboot and not pay for Raimi's anymore. Again, it has ZERO to do with canon.

  • i don't give a fuck about another routine bullshit seen it a hundred times before teenage romance so these actors can show us how cute they are... still wish fincher had taken a shot at spiderman

  • ...Unless all he is to you is a guy in red and blue tights. I am surprised by how dedicated some people are to promoting what may be a decent action/romance movie, but is clearly NOT a movie about Spider-Man. As you say, it takes more than a costume to get the character right.

  • You mean like that time in the comics?

  • June 25, 2012, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Wow, this looks a kabillion times better than Ramie's flicks...

    by schizoschizo

    ...but the really REALLY old, fat nerd fans of Raimi's godawful pieces of turds still have to bitch like byrnerobitics chicks. 'tis sad.

  • June 25, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST

    seymourscagnettisbruisedego - reboot

    by Kakii

    Over a god few weeks ive chatted about the new film with other comic/movie fans and the general public who joined in our conversations just dont get it at all. Then again I do live in a town of nearly inbreds lmao For example comment tonight was "its nothing to do with the other 3 so it looks shit!" and "what the fuck are those things on his wrists, his webs come out of his wrists!" plus my fave "wheres the ginger girl gone?"

  • June 25, 2012, 9:15 p.m. CST


    by master_of_realty

    I don't quite see how you're flipping it around on me. Try again... But anyway, isn't most of that stuff straight out of the comics? Wasn't Peter's love life a huge factor in the story? I don't see what you're complaining about.

  • June 25, 2012, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Saw it at previews this weekend in Kyoto

    by AlanInJapan

    It's OK, just an average superhero film. I enjoyed the first two Raimi movies more but I think TASM is better than the 3rd Raimi flick (not hard). However, I'm not a particular fan of comic books so everything I know about comic book characters comes from the 1990s TV Show or the last decades worth of movies so it doesn't mean as much to me as people on here. If you have any questions about it, fire away. I'll answers as best I can.

  • June 25, 2012, 9:36 p.m. CST

    eymourscagnettisbruisedego wasnt flipping it!

    by Kakii

    Wasnt doing that, was just making a point or going off my experience that the general public doesnt really get reboots. Wasnt having a pop etc, just saying from the things Ive heard off non comic/film fans who just go to be entertained. Seriously you would be surprised how many people cant fathom reboots, or is that just where I live? lol

  • June 25, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST

    To whoever did this...

    by TheBigFuckinLebowski

    Thanks buddy! You just saved me fifteen bucks.

  • June 25, 2012, 9:41 p.m. CST

    the raimi films were kind of revisionist

    by JaredP

    spider-man's webbing was organic and they had mary jane watson as peter's girlfriend instead of gwen stacy. every spdey fan knows his girlfriend in high school was gwen. WTF was raimi thinking?

  • June 25, 2012, 9:43 p.m. CST

    WTF was Raimi thinking?

    by D.Vader

    I was thinking he and the studio didn't want to confuse the kids who read the comics and didn't want to have to kill off the main female either.

  • June 25, 2012, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Re: SPIDER-MAN/Haters/Lovers ...

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Okay, so, clearly, some of you hated Raimi's SPIDER-MAN flicks. Fair enough. First and foremost, you guys seem to forget that Raimi's movie was never intended to stretch out into a trilogy. He abbreviated a few things, like Mary Jane and Gwen Stacy into one character, while barely having room to pace out a closer-to-the-comics origin story and also tell the Green Goblin's origin. As for "organic web-shooters", blame your good pal/golden god James Cameron for that one. You do realize that, in HIS "scriptment", he actually had Peter Parker wearing empty Zippo cases welded to metal watchbands to disguise his organic web-shooters, right (this was actually about the least of that scriptment's problems, look it up)? As for those of you bitching about the cheesiness factor, you clearly never sat down with the Seventies' Nicolas Hammond TV version, which, I promise you, makes the worst moment from any of Raimi's SPIDER-MAN movies look like Mamet or PULP FICTION by comparison.</p><p> As for whoever suggested they commissioned a reboot script behind Raimi's back ... not too likely, considering he's married to the head of Sony.</p><p> As for the new one, the "hate" is probably more in line with the simple fact that it's completely unnecessary. Even if this wound up being the BATMAN BEGINS of the new franchise (it won't), the BATMAN franchise had been steadily falling apart for at least two consecutive films and had a good eight years to fade into the woodwork before anyone took a swipe at it again. Even THE HULK at least got off to such a bad start, and the "reboot" itself was cleverly constructed to act as a pseudo-sequel for the five people who saw the first one, that it was semi-justifiable. There's no justification here. You're pleased that this new flick will "wipe the bad taste of Raimi's crap-fests from your mouth"? Be verrrrrry careful of what you wish for ...

  • June 25, 2012, 9:52 p.m. CST

    To Those Who Have Seen it

    by kafunshoo

    I think its funny how few responses there are to the comments made by the people WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN IT! I think the opinion ranges from "not bad" to "great" , and I think thats a fair assessment but put me in the " it is pretty great" camp. I would feel quite sorry for the haters if not for the fact that im pretty sure their average age is maybe 12 years.

  • June 25, 2012, 9:53 p.m. CST


    by D.Vader

    Don't believe me that the script was written behind his back? Check out the timeline for Spidey 4's production. One week Raimi is casting Malkovich as the Vulture and Hathaway as The Vultress. The next week there are "problems" and suddenly Sony announces its scrapping Spidey 4 in favor of a reboot script. They didn't cancel the movie and then hire someone to write it. It was already written when the reboot story broke. It reeked of shady behavior.

  • WTF! was it so hard to just grab another comic story and adapt it ?? that i would see, spiderman 4, with an interesting more mature pater parker yet they give us the origin again, we all fuckin know how he became spiderman, just move on damn it i swear that if "Man of Steel" shows one second of Superman origin again im gonna explode in diahrrea

  • June 25, 2012, 10 p.m. CST


    by AlanInJapan

    Definitely some shady behaviour, but from what I read the script wasn't written behind Raimi's back, he knew it was being written. Sony were never 100% convinced Raimi would do a fourth so commissioned a back-up in case Raimi did pull out. Originally Raimi wanted Lizard in his version of Spiderman 4, but Sony told him he couldn't use Lizard because they were working on a separate project involving the character so Raimi went for the Vulture instead.

  • I didn't like Raimi's take on the character or mythos. He did some things right, but did more wrong, mainly the condensing of Gwen Stacy's main arc with his first-film finale. That trilogy was lazy if you ask me. Each is littered with contrivances and plot convenience, and ALL THREE have the same exact frigging third act. Plus, they also had wayyyyy too much cheese for my taste. I like a light and fun Spider-Man too, but his movies had a ton of shit dialogue and douche-chilling moments -- and virtually NO Spider-Man quips. Goblin gassing Spidey and their conversation on the roof. Ugh. Goblin bombing Aunt May and inviting her to finish her prayer. Shudder. The Nooooo Yawkas throwing canned goods at the Green Goblin, who has murdered people left and right throughout the entire film, but simply flies away from a group of Long Island dickwads annoyed. Yelch. That's just the first film. Yeah, you guys go watch that shit again. I'm willing to hold out hope for this new version.

  • June 25, 2012, 10:07 p.m. CST

    But hey Spider-man in 3-D, who's seen that before?

    by AL Green

  • June 25, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Alaninjapan, oof that's sounds worse!

    by D.Vader

    That sounds like intimidation to me!

  • June 25, 2012, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Just saw the 25min preview, not watching this on theaters

    by Seth Brundle

    i rather save my 10 bucks, not watching one hour of him getting his powers and being cocky about it when i already saw it all i dont follow spiderman on comics that much but, does he ever stop being a teenager? i mean, is he ever a more adult guy?, out of college i mean

  • June 25, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Dear AICN-

    by Andrew

    Please stop with the misleading headlines. It implies that this is new/unseen footage, when the clip is really just a fan made mash-up. On the other hand, I'm mildly curious about the film.

  • June 25, 2012, 10:20 p.m. CST

    I mean what are you going to take your kids this or Magic Mike?

    by AL Green

  • June 25, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST

    So in the original comics, Spiderman was an annoying douchey-jew?

    by KongMonkey

    If thats the case, then this film looks like it NAAAAAAILED IT! Speaking of nailing things ....emma stone is in this. Thats the only eye candy I've seen in the trailers that looks appealing.

  • June 25, 2012, 10:30 p.m. CST

    The CGI is Awful

    by Todd1700

    Whenever I see someone raving about the CGI of this film I know instantly that I am dealing with either a 6 year old, a troll, a fucking retard or a studio plant. The special effects in the trailers looks like something out of Atomic Twister on the Sci-Fi channel. I mean they literally look like a cartoon. If they actually spent the money they claim they did on this then there should be an investigation into who pocketed the special effects budget.

  • June 25, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Seeing the movie tonight...

    by NZPoe

    ...I have low expectations for the CGI given what I've been hearing on the net.

  • June 25, 2012, 10:38 p.m. CST

    For the record...

    by The_All_Dead

    Sam Raimi only made TWO Spider-man films. Why don't people like to admit that?

  • If you come back, I want to personally extend a kick to your balls for wasting people's time with your whining. Nothing in this movie comes from the comic books-- except the names of the characters. Every single other thing has been changed or reversed-- that's why it is so obviously shitty to anyone who loves Spider-Man. That's why no one has to see it to judge it-- it shits on what it pretends to honor. Ergo: Shit. Gwen Stacy hated Spider-Man. She would have ditched Peter in a heart beat if she found out he was Spider-Man. Gwen's father loved Spider-Man and never hounded him. Gwen's father loved Peter. Peter was a loner and would never let anyone-- especially Gwen-- know that he was Spider-Man. He never showed off at school with his powers for this very reason. To make a character the reverse of everything he is supposed to be is way outside the scope of "doing an interpretation". It's doing it WRONG.

  • June 25, 2012, 11:03 p.m. CST

    How do*

    by AL Green

  • June 25, 2012, 11:04 p.m. CST

    I can't type , retiring as talkbacker

    by AL Green

  • June 25, 2012, 11:09 p.m. CST

    So is the title some kind of Meta Reference.

    by Chairman_Kaga

    Like it's Amazing this movie was made?

  • June 25, 2012, 11:38 p.m. CST

    "I haven't seen this movie yet, but I think I'll whine like a little bitch."

    by Queefer Sutherland

    I know this is me modeling revolutionary thinking, but I'm judging this film until I've seen it. Only then will I express love or hate or meh for it. Like any intelligent person would do. That make a LOT of you extremely ignorant, irrationally angry people. I pity you. Not only are you stupid, you're pathetic. Probably ugly, too.

  • June 25, 2012, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Vern said it best:

    by master_of_realty

    "But if I may make some constructive criticism of the geek lobby – please don’t take this as racist against geeks, some of my best friends have glasses – the motherfuckers are way too god damn literal. Always talking about faithfulness and canonical this and the original that. I understand being a purist but I think some of these guys are sort of obsessive compulsive about it, they focus on one meaningless detail and miss the whole picture. For example I swear to Christ (and Christ will back me up on this I’m sure) there was a dude in the Chud comments on a story about a rumored “reboot” of the BLADE series, and he said he would see it if they went back to the original source material and used wood weapons instead of silver. To him it was the material that the weapons were made of that was interesting to him in that particular story."

  • June 26, 2012, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Ther was no reason to kill that dog in Moonrise kingdom!

    by BoRock_A_Boomer

    Fuck that shit!

  • It's the fact that it's such a cynical cashgrab. Whereas someone like Nolan was given mostly free reign to create his Batman universe, this film was tailor made to play to demographics proven to be cashcows -- the twihards. Some of the reviews trickling out even confirm this, even the ones that are favorable to it. The movie apparently, at least according to one review I've read, casts Gwen Stacy as the main character, someone we see most of the story through. Peter is played as soft spoken and emo, and is drawing more than a few comparisons to Edward from the Twilights series, as is the Gwen/Peter dynamic of the film. Even before Andrew Garfield was cast, the main guy in the running was originally Logan Lerman, which kind of started the rumblings from the outset that Sony's aim for this film was teen girls. Garfield, his hair, and reviews of his performance kind of confirm this. I'm still going to see this movie, if anything just to see Spidey back on the big screen and see how they pull of the Lizard, a roll I think rightfully belonged to Dylan Baker. But I'm going to see it knowing that every aspect of its inception was crafted with twihards in mind, and I'm just not sure what to think of that.

  • Thanks for applying all you've got in the effort to understand. You didn't actually understand a fucking thing, but thanks for trying so very hard. Your ability to be contrary and to cut and paste quotes from Vern sets you far above all the "geeks" you look down upon. But loving a story or a character and wanting to see it done right in the moving pictures isn't being a geek, it's just caring. Isn't there some story you care about that you would want to see done properly instead of completely ass-backward?

  • June 26, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST

    *pull off the Lizard, a role I think rightfully belonged to Dylan Baker

    by American Mythos

  • June 26, 2012, 12:19 a.m. CST

    @real deal

    by QuandraX

    Movie geeks have been doing that since forever. Some blame this website. Some blame Randy from Scream. I remember hating on Se7en when I saw the trailer. Pretty Boy Pitt trying to be a cop? He should be hitchhiking.

  • June 26, 2012, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Seems suspicious that

    by GhostDad

    Trailers on youtube are pulled within an hour, but this "fan edit" that gives away the entire movie is up all day, even after being posted here? This thing almost looks like an ashcan copy. The stuff that isn't shot by shot from Raimi's movie looks like something out of Ghost-Rider or another lower budget second tier superhero flick, and I think the studio knows and doesn't care. I'm astounded at how bad the special effects look, how uninspired the action is and how tedious the whole thing feels.This'll earn it's money back, keep the franchise out of Marvel's hands, and probably justify another cheap, low quality sequel. I'd rather see the Canon Films version.

  • June 26, 2012, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Spidey vs. Lizard

    by btc909

  • June 26, 2012, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Well, to clarify my position...

    by AndoSoundsLikeAMong

    I think my above comment came off as a little too negative. I really enjoyed it. The fights were inventive and it's pretty slick overall. Had to see it in 3D as they were only previewing the 3D one, but for my money the CG was pretty good. The script is quite bland and Conners gets some real nasty exposition to choke on. As for "Gwen being the main character" and "it being like Twilight"... no. Peter is clearly the main character, and while I've scrubbed most of the little of Twilight I've seen from my mind, I didn't really get that vibe either. They play that relationship quite differently from other films of the ilk; for a start, Gwen and Peter are basically the same person in male / female form - their script is interchanagble. I don't even mind that they are rebooting it, so much, as that they claim the reason for the reboot was to bring all this stuff about his parents into it, put that stuff in the trailers, and then don't use it in the film. The whole hook for the reboot was "What's the truth about his parents?" but then the film kicks you in the balls, makes you watch (a very watchable) Spiderman 1 again, and then says "maybe we'll show you what we promised in 2-3 years time." I know that isn't a direct critisim of the film itself, more the cirumstances around it, but it could have done a lot more with the "new" material that they are bringing to it. Still, there are a few cool moments I'm sure people will geek out over. Worth seeing if you like Spidey. Just don't buy into the false advertising of the plot.

  • June 26, 2012, 12:34 a.m. CST


    by QuandraX

    And, what's worse, the quality of CGI hasn't advanced all that far since The Phantom Menace. It has come a long way since The Arrival with Charlie Sheen, but it's still not all that great. I still see bad CGI in $100M+ movies. And, no CGI effect has ever topped the Queen from Aliens (a puppet) for photo-realism. That makes me smile, that a puppet made out of foam still beats the computers.

  • The best we can hope for now is a decent spider turning up in small parts in other Marvel movies. Noone is gonna stomach any more half decent Spider-man movies. One of the best characters has been flogged to death.

  • Hyperbole run amok. Just. Stop.

  • June 26, 2012, 1:26 a.m. CST


    by shaGuar

    I really want to see this. Stop speaking for everyone just because you're a bitter purist. Boo fucking hoo Sony blah blah blah. Why is it that you would prefer no incarnation of Spiderman to a Sony developed one? Do you really think they are bastardizing the character that much? I love the casting through and through, and based on Marc Webb's previous work I'd imagine the least we're gonna get is a good love story involving characters we adore in the context of a Spiderman movie.

  • June 26, 2012, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Will make a shitload of money and you know it

    by centilope

    It may look like garbage to US (geeks, nerds, fans of the comicbooks, whatever) but what ACTUALLY matters is how does it look in the eyes of a teenage Twillight-obsessed girl? That's the only demographic that matters, the movie was made with that specific demo in mind. Prepare for it to make Hunger Games type of cash. It's sad but true. We just have to forget this movie exists at all and wait patiently for TDKR.

  • June 26, 2012, 1:39 a.m. CST

    First of all,...

    by Justin Nosser

    unnecessary reboot. Raimi's films may have taken liberties with the story, characters, etc., but they were pretty damn good. This one also looks to be taking many liberties that many may or may not agree with so I can't wait until it opens nationwide and the forum battle ensues between Raimi fans, Webb fans, and non-fans of both. Based on what I have seen, this one may be better than 3, but I do not think it will surpass the first 2. I still remember when the teaser for this came out and everyone was so psyched about mechanical web shooters. Really? Is that all it takes? I personally liked the organic ones. It makes more sense to me. Why get super-human strength, reflexes, spidey-sense, ability to climb walls, etc. from the bite and not have the ability to shoot webbing? Just my 2 cents. That being said, I will see this eventually because of the Lizard. I will probably even enjoy it somewhat because it is Spider-man after all. The big question now is who will get it first so I can see it? Redbox or Directv?

  • June 26, 2012, 1:43 a.m. CST

    He talks too much

    by Witwiki50

    when hes swinging under the bridge, all he does is talk ''Coming through'' ''Im swinging here''.. why would he do that, everyone is in cars and he is talking out loud like a idiot. This movie looks kinda bad, for one its too dark, just cos it works for batman dosent mean it will work for all comic adaptions, and second of all they have gone out to try to purposely please the fan boys,..oh my god spiderman is funny in the comics, lets go overboard with the jokes so all the geeks will like it! No thank you

  • June 26, 2012, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Ghost rider two, and now a spider man reboot 5 years later?

    by Balkin Flabgurter

    WHERE IN THE FUCK if you dont mind me asking is Black panther????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • June 26, 2012, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Lighten up, it's for kids

    by twogunjames

    Spider-Man has always been for kids, and I think kids are going to love this movie. I have no problem with promoting heroes. It's not for me, I doubt I'll see this. But that does not make me hate it.

  • June 26, 2012, 2:10 a.m. CST


    by smitme

    FUCK THIS FILM nuff said

  • June 26, 2012, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Hey kafunshoo

    by Jay Jay

    I just felt that all the beats were way to similar to the Raimi films. Okay, I know there's a comic that they felt they had to stick to but it just felt like a pointless re-tread of a story that was told only 10 years ago. Uncle Ben and Aut May's house, the street they live on, Peter being bullied at school and then later getting revenge, Ben's death, hunting down Ben's killer as a masked vigilante, being inspired by a wrestling mask, a bad guy giving himself super powers with a serum, a fight on the top of a building - there was just nothing new here. Garfield was good as Peter and Spidey - but Maguire had more wisecracks. And yes - he takes his mask off in virtually EVERY scene he's in. The movie even ends with a crazy CG websling around the city, culminating in a web shot straight into the camera. Overall it's paced quite slowly and feels much longer than its 136 minutes. And yes, is a mid-end credits sequence that is not really worth staying for, but it's there. A few things I liked - there seems to be a lot more practicval stunt work and more of a man in a suit instead of the horrible CG that was overused in Raimi's films. It's grittier and less cartoonish. It's fine - nothing special. The question I ask is - why make this? Did anyone actually want to see a Spidey reboot now?I'd say it will open big but will be crushed by Batman.

  • June 26, 2012, 2:50 a.m. CST

    In 2012

    by my liege

    Anyone else bored by the trope of the creation of hero and villain happening at EXACTLY the same time like some huge cosmic coincidence? The MARVEL movies have avoided this so far (Iron Monger happened as a DIRECT RESULT of Iron Man, Hulk had been around for ages before the Abomination turned up. Same with the Red Skull an Cap) but this Spidey flick lazily dives right in there. It happened in the first Spidey flick and it looks it's happening here.

  • June 26, 2012, 3:05 a.m. CST

    by seanpb

    The action is shot and executed well, the leads charismatic and well cast, the CGI very, very good. Overall its a pretty enjoyable film. All the beats in all these films are similar because, naturally, they have to be. Hero and villain are intertwined, their origins play out alongside one another, they have an initial skirmish, villain finds and tries to exploit a weakness, hero eventually wins the final showdown... Happens in every single hero film. If you're still hung up on some movies done 10 years ago, holding Raimi's efforts up to the alter of all things majestic in comic books on film, you're not going to like anything that threatens that. And, believe me, this film threatens that. When Spiderman is in action its much better than anything bar the subway car in Raimi's efforts. It's dynamic when he's swinging around, the sensation of speed and depth achieved in far greater a way than what we had seen. I said in an earlier post that ASM delivers a great Spidey film without the assistance of elemental aspects of the character: JJJ, MJ, Bugle, Osborns etc. It's building deliberately towards a grander scale, something that will give it great scope to improve in future instalments. Of course people will hate it; they're wired to do so. If you've an open mind and no predisposition to irrationally hate, believe me, you'll probably have a pretty good time watching the best overall version of the character(s) in, arguably, the best Spider-man film made to date.

  • June 26, 2012, 3:29 a.m. CST

    the lizard effects may not be perfect

    by Minotaur7

    but they're getting spider-man right... it's more colorful and inventive that Raimi's static trilogy.

  • June 26, 2012, 3:34 a.m. CST

    The absolute worst crime for lazy superhero coincidences...

    by biscuithead

    ...had be venom falling out of the sky and landing right next to Peter Parker in Spiderman 3. Never seen a film with so much disdain for it's audience. A slap in the face to any one with a fucking brain...

  • the mid end credit sequence is---- norman osbourne (played by michael massee) in the shadows of connors cell saying he needs the boy connors replies "you leave him out of this" he is credited as man in the shadows as you never see his face and he referenced throughout the movie as connors is trying to save his life with the serum oh and i loved the movie it was great!

  • it will transform him into a...oh wait

  • June 26, 2012, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Not enough crying! This is a blasphemy! Spidey is about crying!

    by David Cloverfield

    I only saw the Riami movies but that's what I gathered.

  • June 26, 2012, 4:20 a.m. CST

    david cloverfield

    by Jay Jay

    You're gonna love this one so as there is crying GALORE!

  • June 26, 2012, 4:22 a.m. CST


    by palewook

    i never said "wahh the movie sucks." stick to what someone states next time. not what you want to see.

  • June 26, 2012, 4:49 a.m. CST

    jay jay

    by David Cloverfield

    - GULP -

  • June 26, 2012, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Good starting point

    by TheBandit73

    Enjoyed the movie, not perfect, but pretty good, doesn't deserve the negativity it gets on this site. Garfield is on the money as is Stone and Sheen - of course. A little slow in places and a few big-ish moments kinda passes you by. But pluses outweigh the minuses. Do not like the sound of it, do not watch then.

  • June 26, 2012, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Don't judge this film till you've seen it....

    by Eli_Cash

    ... is plant rhetoric. We've seen 25 minutes of the damn thing. It sucks. Plants have one goal, to get you to spend your money. They don't give a shit if you're satisfied with your purchase. There's no money back guarantee. Thus if they can't convince you that its good, they'll try to convince you to see it just to make sure its bad. All you have to do is wait. A few months. Rent it if you're really curious. But don't add to the box office, and for the love of comics don't give it a good opening weekend. Unless you want 6 more years of them destroying the character. I'm asking you geeks, please, join me in killing this franchise. These pricks think we'll buy anything with the name "Spider-Man" attached. We have to prove them wrong.

  • June 26, 2012, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Raimi's Spiderman was the "Emo" Spiderman

    by Cameron1

    With that whiny bitch Maguire and "tragic" villain back stories. This new version has have the "emo" surface look but there seems to be more action, more wisecracking and quips and a main actor who can actually act more emotions than feeling sorry for himself or cautiously happy. I really don't care if this is a remake or reboot or whatever, there is room for scores of interpretations of this character and hell the overrated Spidey2 basically stole Superman2's losing powers plot anyway so we know originality isn't important to the Raimi fans. I'll say im reasonable optimistic for this film based on the garfield, action and vastly improved CGI.

  • June 26, 2012, 5:54 a.m. CST

    I don't like the actor that plays this smart-ass Spiderman.

    by The Outlander

    and Spiderman's bad guys always seem cheezy to me, other than that it looks better than I thought it was going to be.

  • June 26, 2012, 6:20 a.m. CST

    But Spiderman always was and is a smart ass

    by SminkyPinky

    What the hell is with this complaint? Raimi only really tried this once or twice in SM2 ("Here's yer change!") but Spidey has always been a smart ass in the comics. And hell, he got so smug at one point early on he even went looking for trouble with the Human Torch. STOP COMPLAINING YOU WHINY ASS INFANTS.

  • June 26, 2012, 6:22 a.m. CST


    by SminkyPinky

    Sorry, but you're full of shit. Actually encouraging people NOT to see a movie in a cinema. That is just fucking low. You're just throwing your toys out of the pram because you're not getting what YOU want. You baby.

  • June 26, 2012, 6:45 a.m. CST


    by seanpb

    If he doesn't see it its his loss as far as I'm concerned. Is it a classic? No. But neither are the first and third films in Raimi's series. Is it a very well made and thoroughly enjoyable superhero film? Absolutely. I saw an advanced screening last night and will absolutely be paying to see it a second time. I liked the character stuff and genuinely got the sense that Gwen and Peter would be in love (well done to the actors), and absolutely adored the execution of the action scenes and web slinging. I implore people to give it a fair go and ensure we and Webb get a second go of this interpretation by seeing it in theatres.

  • June 26, 2012, 6:51 a.m. CST

    To Eli Cash

    by kafunshoo

    I assure you I am not a plant. And maybe I understand that you want the movie to fail so the rights will revert back to marvel. So can I ask you what kind of spiderman movie do you want?

  • June 26, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Objectivity does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    To the people or plants that have seen it and loved it (will see it a 2nd time, etc, etc)... Now youve seen it do you have any insight into why the Peter Parker argues with New York doorman scene was used as the viral teaser to get fans excited? Also can you say how well the CG Lizard fx stand up? (because the few shots in the trailer - which you would presume to be the best shots - look pretty darn poor). Thanks.

  • June 26, 2012, 6:59 a.m. CST

    Hey Jay Jay

    by kafunshoo

    Yes I agree with a lot of what you said. I have no doubt that it will be demolished by The Dark Knight but a lot of the beats you mentioned are central to the story of spiderman. He's a working class kid who lives in new York, his actions indirectly lead to his uncles death etc. it's like Superman and Krypton being destroyed, being found by The Kents, going to work in Metropolis. They are part of the DNA of this story. Again I totally respect your opinion and it did seem a little slow at times but I think the things you kind of liked we're the things I really liked so that's the biggest difference. Maybe I am just a sucker for Spiderman. And I too wondered why go through the origin story again but I felt they did it in a refreshing way. My biggest problem is with people who have not seen it but have decided that it sucks. As you saw it and felt underwhelmed we can agree to disagree.

  • June 26, 2012, 7:14 a.m. CST


    by seanpb

    That particular scene could be like any scene or piece of dialogue shown in teasers that don't make the final cut; there were actually quite a few bits and pieces shown in promotional material that were absent from the finished film. I can only assume that when edited it was decided those lines, or scene in this case, aren't important enough to warrant inclusion, but in terms of impressing or gauging tone/reaction they put that scene or included them in the trailer. In this case it was cut out in response to the reaction. Or, maybe it was never intended to be in the finished film at all... In terms of the flow of the film that scene actually isn't needed at all, it would've bogged it down. Gwen invites Peter over to dinner, and he swings onto the fire escape outside her window. Given its something he's just developed the ability to do, it makes more sense he'd arrive that way. Plus, the point of the scene is the awkwardness of meeting the parents and his debate with Capt. Stacey at the dinner table, not the conversation he has with the doorman. As for the Lizard, I've absolutely no issue whatsoever with the CGI. Maybe I'm not as hard a marker as others, or maybe I wasn't looking hard enough for flaws or faults, but I thought he was done quite well. He moved well, had a weightiness on screen, showed emotion and expression in several tight shots, fought and interacted with Spiderman seamlessly... Overall I thought the effects work was very good.

  • June 26, 2012, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Are We Sure Burton and Smith wasn't involved???

    by Bob Craft

  • June 26, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST

    sminkypinky, the right actor can make smart-ass entertaining

    by The Outlander

    this actor makes amart-ass sound winey and annoying.

  • June 26, 2012, 7:46 a.m. CST

    cobra kai

    by kafunshoo

    Dont know why they used the doorman scene - its not in the cut i saw in Japan (unless i blacked out because of the 3D). I felt the Lizard got better as the film went on, His first appearance on the bridge you only see him in the distance and close ups of his arms as he smashes through cars. i was a little concerned as it looked a bit fake, But come to think of it Mark Webb reveals him quite slowly so by the time of the climax you believe in the character. The scene in Midtown high where he is fighting spidey in broad daylight is pretty good. My only criticism is that I dont think it motion captured unlike Mark Ruffalo's Hulk (I havent actually seen Avengers yet) so Rhys Ifans does not seem so present in the Lizard character until he speaks. The final reversal back to conners from the Lizard is handled very well.

  • June 26, 2012, 8:14 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Thanks for the replies... Bizarre that the doorman scene which it now appears wasnt deemed worthy of inclusion in the film... was the scene they used to represent the movie as a teaser! Y'know because when you're making a trailer or a promo you want to put your best foot forward. Sony put their foot forward and shot themselves in it with that move. So im hearing that the Lizard FX aren't amazing but theyre passable enough not to spoil the film.

  • June 26, 2012, 8:44 a.m. CST


    by jay

    Wow that was the best damn blank black "no video found" compilation video I have ever seen!!!!!!! <being sarcastic> There is no video...obviously it has been taken down or removed by TPTB

  • June 26, 2012, 8:45 a.m. CST

    someone please tell me what the hell the french know about superheroes?

    by ShakaLaka Lambo

    Going to the French for a review of a superhero movie is like going to your plumber and asking for stock tips...what a moron. Check Rotten Tomatoes if you want the truth.

  • June 26, 2012, 8:56 a.m. CST


    by Gary Makin

  • June 26, 2012, 8:58 a.m. CST

    if you are looking for the video

    by palewook

    movieweb still has a working link

  • June 26, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST

    WTF kafunshoo, no DOORMAN SCENE?

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    fuck it, if there's no DoorMan I'm not even bothering to torrent this one. WHY do they have to fuck things up like this? I was so excited to finally see the Doorman as he should have been... and now, what, soulless execs have cut him from the film? What, the Door-Man didn't "focus-test" well with tweens? FUCK THEM! This is the fucking DOORMAN we're talking about here!! Or is it because the Doorman didn't convert well to 3d? Well shit, of course he didn't. He's a fifth-dimensional being, fucking deal with it! Ugh, this movie is DOOMED. NO DOORMAN, NO MOVIE

  • June 26, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST


    by RebelD

    if you are a fan of spiderman theres no way you cannot be excited about this, Sam Ramis were good but this is literally spider man right out of the comic book

  • June 26, 2012, 9:40 a.m. CST

    daddylonghead dont worry

    by kafunshoo

    Doorman's gonna get his own spin off movie in 2014

  • June 26, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST


    by Craig

    I think most people object to this because they are re-telling the origin story. If Sony had gone The Incredible Hulk route here I'd be there opening day. Simply put, true to the comic or not, this is an Uninspired cash grab.

  • June 26, 2012, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Wow, that was painful. Will Smith as Spider-man.

    by SergeantStedenko

  • June 26, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST


    by closeencounter

    It's gone....

  • Now they reboot a franchise every other week.

  • June 26, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST


    by RebelD

    why? because they want to wipe that corny diarrhea that was spiderman 3 out of our minds? More power to them. If they do it right, you cannot call it n uninspired cash grab. They already nailed THE FUCK out of spiderman, way better than Raimi did. Lizard is cool enough, n Im sure Rhys Infans will turn in a great performance. idk man, Im assuming all these haters just love raimi so much they dont want 2 give it a chance, but their gona feel like dumb asses when its the best movie if the summer, well next to Dark Knight

  • June 26, 2012, 11:13 a.m. CST

    I live in Japan and saw this and its GOOD!

    by dacanesta

    I wrote a huge review to AICN that I think was actually well written and that but I guess they can't run all reader reviews, can they? Then again....I saw SPIDER-MAN a week before the rest of the world so yes they bloody SHOULD! The gist: i was a hater for 45 minutes as it all seemed like a waste of time doing the same old stuff again but with annoying and forced differences but then at some strange point in the movie I got a 'buzz' and from there on in it won me over, and for that it got bonus points. And I liked the Lizard, so there. Though talking to himself a la Norman Osborne was a strange move considering how much they were attempting to make it unlike the original. Anyway.....its pretty good is all im saying! Not great, but certainly could have been worse!!! Compared to most of the disposable rubbish out there it certainly fares better. Amen.

  • June 26, 2012, 11:14 a.m. CST

    who wants-a my full review, hmm?

    by dacanesta

    coz ill post it! I WILL! I'LL DO IT! I'M NOT SCARED!

  • imho, anyway.

  • June 26, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST

    MY (LONG AND SHITE) REVIEW from the Japan screening.

    by dacanesta

    The Amazing Spider-Man, reviewed by Dacanesta. Hello! I am not a writer and I am very stupid. With that in mind, here is my review of THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN which I saw yesterday in Japan at a preview screening. Here we get many films late…..Prometheus and Avengers are released in August….so to have this early made me a bit excited and hence when I went in yesterday I made this noise: ‘HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNZ!’. The same as most, my expectations were a little subdued going into this. The trailers and general buzz didn’t seem the same to me as when the ‘other’ ‘Spider-Man’ was released in 2002. Back then you just needed to know a Spider-Man movie was being made and you were vibrating silently at your work desk. Now this shockingly early reboot is out and you can’t help but go in with a ‘come on then…..impress me!’ type attitude, knowing they have made a decision that, ‘SPIDER-MAN 3’ and Tobey Maguire’s age or not, was a little jarring. It seemed a bit cynical and cruel to a set of films that we (generally) had a lot of affection for and in a way felt unfinished. For at least 30 minutes I had a bad attitude towards ‘THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN’. Firstly, the 3D didn’t help (couldn’t see a 2D showing) as I can’t STAND 3D and I wish it would hurry up and be dead. I watched 95% without the glasses and learned that apart from a few action sequences it looks absolutely normal to do this (I thought EVERYTHING was blurry, but it’s just background stuff). Then what happens in the movie is you get a sense of them trying a bit too hard to make all of the little things different from the 2002 version but essentially you get the same thing except mainly not as good and so they only succeed in making you think ‘yeah, ok, we get it, this is a NEW ‘Spider-Man’’ with each moderately different beat. Immediately Peter Parker is now different and listens to ipods, carries a skateboard, and generally acts a little strange……I wouldn’t necessarily say it was ‘nerdyness’, it’s actually a little more strange than that and it’s difficult to pin down because sometimes he’s also bit ‘cool-for-school ‘, which left me thinking that he seemed to be at both ends of the ‘coolness’ spectrum… he a nerd, or is he actually cool?!?!? I guess he’s both! Fair enough. Then you get what you know you’re going to get with regards to his becoming Spider-Man and so I don’t think these are spoilers but if you’re concerned then skip this paragraph. Firstly, the bite – Peter is snooping around Oscorp and slips into a door with a security device of the like you see in many movies but God knows if they exist in real life. If they do, I want to buy one by 6 O’clock this evening. In said room are a bunch of fluorescent spiders that have been altered for use in their cross-genetics program that they are researching. Peter plays with a web-type thing and a bunch of the spiders fall on him. I didn’t quite understand that part but anyway, later on one of them bites him. What I didn’t like there is I’m pretty sure we are to believe that once he is bitten and transforms that he will be the ONLY Spider-Man and it’s impossible to have Spider-Men everywhere because that was the only spider that could give this power and, as in the case of the last version, it got squished. Well , there are a thousand and sixty two spiders in this scene, and I know coz I counted, and so I don’t know why a bunch of other people can’t just wander in and become ‘Spider-Men’. That ‘bugged’ me. Heh! ‘Bugged!’. Secondly, unlike the cool ‘he’s starting to realise his new powers, sir!’ sequence of the original, you get a super quick transformation in which there is no doubt to the FULL extent of his powers (as in its not ‘ooh, eyesight good! Muscles and penis big! And LO! I can climb WALLS!’, its straight to ‘I can cling to ceilings!’). I wasn’t keen on this and it felt less heartfelt (ndawwww!) and rousing (oooooh!) than the originals take on it. What really rubbed my trousers though is that he does all this in one subway scene and doesn’t immediately go off like we all would in this case (and yes, like Tobey does in the original)…..he just sort of faffs around and gets his own back on the school bully etc……but he’s hardly even surprised about these insane powers he has! He’s a little too aux fais about it for my liking. THEN! You have the webshooters, one of the different factors of the new movie….and their development is over in about 30 seconds!!!! And unless I was playing with my stupid and utterly ridiculous 3D glasses at the time, I didn’t see any reference to the ‘2 fingers worth of pressure on a little button in the palm of the hand’, which, you know……I like! It’s the hand we all do when we say ‘Spider-Man is out tomorrow!!! COME ON DADDY!’ So, there I am, getting more and more annoyed at these silly and petty little differences that amount to the same thing only somehow not as sweet. The positives thus far were Martin Sheen and Rhys Ifans as they have a presence and gravitas needed to make these things more epic. Sally Field just freaked me out a bit coz I haven’t seen here in a while and she looked old while still having that Sally Field kind of young looking face, so just like I didn’t know where Peter Parker was at, I had the same feeling about Sally Field’s face. Anyway, to cut a long review a little bit shorter, from here on in, despite some issues, I must admit it started to win me over. The last time a film done that was ‘THE DEPARTED’. ‘THE DEPARTED?!??!?’ I hear you cough…..yes, well, I was tired or hungover or both when I saw it and I remember thinking I had no idea what was going on for the first 30 minutes and it just looked like a bunch of people yapping away on a big screen in front of my eyes…..I told you in the first paragraph I was stupid. Anyway, that won me over, hangover or not, and so did this, kind of. There were some amusing moments, not in the least being Stan Lee’s cameo which almost brought a chuckle out of the Japanese crowd, which is saying something. I think we hear this a lot but this MUST be the best one yet! It combines his honorary cameo with good action to the sound of classical music which adds a lot of humour. All that in a 5 second sequence! Spidey’s suit and mask grew on me, the sound of his webs is sweet, the action sequences were exciting (if a little short, though MINOR SPOILER Spidey’s webs failing to shoot underwater was aces!) and the CGI in them was spot on, the Gwen/Peter relationship has some genuinely sweet moments (particularly the post-argument-with-her-father rooftop scene which features a grand way of getting someones attention, sharing something, and being a little bit sexual all in one foul swoop) and she doesn’t whinge through 94% of the movie, Denis Leary is pretty cool even if I do still see him as ‘that bloke that tried to commercialise Bill Hicks’s stuff, and do you know what, lovely people? I actually liked The Lizard. There, I said it. Justifying that is hard, but I liked it. Despite looking a bit silly, like lizards generally do, he was someone the most serious baddie for me. I don’t think anyone on Earth will agree with that and I barely agree with myself when I think of The Sandman, who had that serious demeanour and look on his face of ‘Lifes a beach’ (get it? BEACH! SAND! Brilliant!), but…, I’m not gonna win anyone over with this one so I’ll give up now. I just think they looked good beating each other up, basically. Unfortunately, the Spidey wise cracks that are now in more full effect are hit and miss, but against the lizard they only served to belittle him which, although accurate to the comics (probably), lessen his impact. It’s like Spidey doesn’t take his foe seriously sometimes….so why should we? Also, the grand plan of the Lizard and climax of the movie is very very VERY unoriginal, the outcome of which (if he pulled it off) is never given huge credence and power, and the motivation for it is flimsy, plus you’ve seen most of this sequence in the trailers, so that was a bit naff, but you know what, chaps? Ultimately I came out despite having all of these problems with it and I thought ‘I just saw a half decent Spider-Man movie there, mama!’ Yep, hard to believe after all my gripes but I came out wanting to spin webs again. Or go to the toilet, one of the two, its hard to differentiate sometimes. You might notice I’ve failed to mention the whole mystery of Peter Parker’s parents. It’s because it didn’t interest me one bit because 1. It felt shoehorned in to make this one different, and 2. I know already (because I’m a cynical so and so) that their disappearance will be blamed on them developing some formula that would have been revolutionary or something and a bunch of bad men (and possibly women) wanted said formula for evil-doings instead and so they ran off or were killed or who gives a monkeys spleen anyway……

  • June 26, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST

    dacanesta, if you're a plant, you're good

    by SergeantStedenko

    But, hating a movie for 45 minutes cannot be a good thing.

  • June 26, 2012, 11:26 a.m. CST


    by palewook

    with you that scene in particular from the 1st time it showed up in a small clip bothered me. then more of the scene came out in other trailers. complete with spiderman shooting the helpless car thief in the groin. spiderman as a bully, a dick. not exactly the silver age spiderman. hoping they cut most of that scene out in the final us cut.

  • June 26, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I humbly disagree man, THATS HOW SPIDEY IS IN THE COMICS

    by RebelD

    when in the comics did spidey not talk shit to a bad guy?,I felt there wasnt enough of that in Raimis films, the emo scene, damn near the whole film was about as painful to watch as M.Nights Last Airbender

  • June 26, 2012, 11:36 a.m. CST


    by JAMF

    yeah... a cunt. fuck him. i'm so over spidey. meanwhile... THE FIRE RISES

  • ....and yeah, it sounds bad i suppose but for a while it just pissed me off. And i still cannot say 'but then its GREAT!'. But i just admit to smiling and getting that little 'buzz' you get from exciting films now and again. His webs failing to shoot underwater whilst getting chased by the Lizard gave me it......dunno, im gonna see it again and see how i feel. The 2nd time is usually when i know, but i came out with a little buzz and did not expect that at all.....though that could indeed be why. CHUFF!

  • June 26, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    DOORMAN does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    No Doorman. No deal. Let's fucking torch this town until we find whos responsible for cutting the DOORMAN out the movie. Yeah, millions of innocents will burn but if we get the cunt that cut the DOORMAN then their deaths will not be in vain.

  • June 26, 2012, 11:41 a.m. CST

    the film, not him being weird. WHOOSH!

    by dacanesta

  • June 26, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST

    who gives a fuck! hes a car thief!

    by RebelD

  • feel free to name any instance of spiderman ever doing anything like that in any marvel book.

  • June 26, 2012, 12:21 p.m. CST

    It's probably best to avoid it...

    by GulDucati

    referring to the whole movie.

  • June 26, 2012, 12:30 p.m. CST

    however theres no fan reviews yet which are the ones that really matter

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

    This real and actual statement (taken from above) explains so very very much about this site.

  • June 26, 2012, 12:41 p.m. CST

    The only thing better in this one is Emma...

    by alienindisguise

    because she's a quantum leap over Kirsten "ugly as fuck" Dunst. The rest looks like dog shit. The basketball sequence...fucking gay.

  • June 26, 2012, 12:59 p.m. CST


    by palewook

    as one can help with trolling. be mature enough to discuss something without being a troll. try it.

  • You guys take that clip and just run with it being the tone and attitude of the character for the entire film. This is worse than some of you detectives assuming from a snippet of trailer footage that Peter's father injected him with his spider powers at birth. A hater rumor that Webb shot down in an interview with the Huffington Post recently. See the movie or don't, but stop acting like you know everything.

  • June 26, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by palewook

    and yet its ok when people point to the emo scenes in spiderman 3 as the reason it underwhelmed..

  • June 26, 2012, 1:36 p.m. CST

    gob, you never read the comics did you?

    by palewook

    JJ's menace charge stuck because he was the establishment. The bugle had the power to tell the masses what JJ wanted, even when the little guy (spiderman) could only tell his side of the story via his actions to people that witnessed them in person. check out some of the early 70s to mid 70s spiderman comics to see how the whole anti-establishment movement had worked its way into spiderman.

  • That movie is 5 years old. We've seen those scenes in context now. And, in context, dancing and gyrating in the street and growing his hair over his eyes is not how Parker acted in the black suit. Like I said, if the car thief scene takes place early on, and he's showing off -- and then later learns the lesson -- I'm fine with it. It's character development, and makes perfect sense. But emo Parker was the least of Spidey 3's problems to be honest.

  • which is cool. I DO think Spider-Mans quips and cockiness should be a little more reigned in, but again, that's why I think this whole car thief scene occurs when he has a little too much swagger and hasn't been humbled by the loss of Uncle Ben. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, whatever.

  • June 26, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    That was quick.

    by gotilk

    The legal, anti-promotion machine is getting faster and more efficient by the day. Good job, guys! Make sure the right people are paying the bandwidth bill.

  • June 26, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    damn, wookie_blowjob , that was a cool vid.

    by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports

    in other news, Doorman > car thief

  • They should have used the first film as an opportunity to grow the relationship between Norman, Harry and Peter, because it would have given Norman's transformation a lot more emotional impact. It actually makes me worry that they're not planning on using the GG, which I would love to see a different movie version of.

  • So, you're saying we're not allowed to discuss what we don't like in the trailer? WTF is the purpose of this talkback then? ATTENTION, EVERYONE, PLEASE STOP POSTING COMMENTS BECAUSE THE GOBLINKNIGHTLEX SAYS YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING UNTIL YOU'VE SEEN THE MOVIE.

  • June 26, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST


    by YourMomsBox3D

    Did you watch the 25-minute preview? No sarcasm, legitimately asking. I didn't bother, because I knew it was fan-made, and now I can't check to see if the clip was included in which Ben takes Peter to task for humiliating Flash the way that he does in the film. I am assuming, and hoping that scene takes place after the basketball scene you have a problem with, as it does very much reflect the same nuances that you give Raimi so much credit for including in his telling of the story. It seems to me that Parker may very well be douche-like upon discovering his new-found strengths, and all of those scenes look to occur before he learns the hard lesson with Uncle Ben. All of which I am fine with, because if this is supposed to be a contemporary tale -- name me one teenager you know -- nerdy, softspoken, bullied -- who wouldn't behave the same way if suddenly granted with such extraordinary capabilities? The basketball scene, the bit with the car thief, all make perfect sense to me in that context.

  • June 26, 2012, 4:04 p.m. CST


    by SithMenace

    It will be amazing if they can fit a developed relationship with Connors into this movie, considering they're retelling the origin. I think they should form the relationship between characters long before they become villains, like what Raimi was trying to do with the Lizard, even though he never turned him. Since there is another villain other than the Goblin, it would have been nice to see that relationship started and developed.

  • No, I'm not putting any eggs in this basket.

  • June 26, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    92% Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes...

    by NHRonin

    Avengers was 93%. Suck it losers.

  • June 26, 2012, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Spiderman Ad Campaign

    by Todd1700

    Do you act like a douche bag? Are you the kind of asshole that likes to secretly piss or spit in other peoples food or drink? Do you think keying the car of someone you don't even know is funny? Did you always think J Jonah Jameson was right about Spiderman and dreamed of a Peter Parker who was a supremely unlikable jackoff bastard that proved it? Do you want a pissy douche of a Peter Parker that looks like Edward Cullen from the Twilight series? Then boy have we got a Spiderman movie for you. Come on down and get in touch with that inner douche inside of you. The Amazing Spiderman, bullying it's way into a theater near you.

  • June 26, 2012, 5:17 p.m. CST


    by NHRonin

    13 - but includes heavy hitter reviewers like Variety and Hollywood Reporter

  • Wow, then where can I pay money to see this piece of shit? Sign me up!!! The last thing I want in a Spider-Man movie is for them to do anything the way it was in those stupid comic books!

  • June 26, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Funny Thing about the Reviews

    by Todd1700

    First off the 13 up most are by people I've never heard of. Second, RT always posts the bought and paid for reviews first. It's some kind of deal they have always had with the studios. I've seen movies that ended up in the 30's be in the 90's for a week to start with. Third, it's strange that of the 2 reviews up by the 2 magazines I have heard of, Variety and Hollywood Reporter, neither of them are penned by their usual critics.

  • June 26, 2012, 5:54 p.m. CST


    by Anthony Torchia

    that's all I have to add, yes

  • ..and she comes home and catches him on it again. Or just fucking ban him for excessive spam posting.

  • Once again, the blind hatred for this being displayed ignores any semblance of logic or evidence.

  • June 26, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST

    oh geez! come on idiots. same haters from x-men...

    by patrick cruz

    first class. and when the movie came out it blew majority of you haters out of your moms vaginas. then you called it one of the best marvel movies ever. i'm sick and tired of hearing you damn immature fanboys whine like a fucking bunch of teenage virgins. just shut the fuck up and watch the damn movie.

  • June 26, 2012, 6:10 p.m. CST


    by JaredP

    anything has to be better than three

  • June 26, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Never uttered a negative word about X-Men First Class

    by Todd1700

  • June 26, 2012, 6:11 p.m. CST

    i don't HATE raimi's films...

    by JaredP

    i just feel they aren't very truhful to the mythology

  • June 26, 2012, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Can't help but lose interest because it's an origin AGAIN

    by Castor Grayson

    Though The Incredible Hulk lacked a lot in the end. One thing I appreciated is that, though it was technically a reboot, they told the origin quickly in the opening credits because they knew no one wanted to see ANOTHER origin story we saw a few years ago. A decade between films is nothing in these DVD times.

  • June 26, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST


    by JaredP

    the raimi films were a little too dark, don't you think? maguire was always moping around. plus i don't think maguire ever really liked playing the role. i saw him in interviews and he would shit like "here i am doing another spidey film" "well, i'm under contract, so i have to do it". i mean dude, if you didn't like playing the role why take it up?

  • June 26, 2012, 6:48 p.m. CST

    buckethead50-he's not a plant - you sound as obsessively dumb as he does

    by Michael Lunney

  • June 26, 2012, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Man, Raimi's films had a short shelf-life didn't they.

    by DoctorWho?

    First one especially. Green Goblin, Macy Gray *ugh*...and they were overtaken by much better comic book adaptions too. The parts that hold up are the quieter moments with Peter and Aunt May. Still a great origin movie.

  • So call me a stupid motherfucker for agreeing with you? And, you actually started out sounding like a rational, normal human being, so I'm wise to your tough guy pose that is so hollow and see-through. But, it seems like you just can't help yourself from being a mean-spirited son-of-a-bitch. It doesn't take a doctorate to see you have problems with anger and an obsessive need to express it at the drop of a hat, for the geek filth you do despise, but seem to want to emulate. But seriously, I envy you getting to see this movie early. It seems to have something going for it that the other films sorely lacked, like spidey's wisecracking at criminals. I know you are an intelligent person, too bad you can't play that up instead of unleashing your dark side so readily. In an alternate reality, we might actually be friends, because I do respect your positive opinions about the film expressed here. goblin - actually as a longtime Spidey fan from the beginning- this movie does get his attitude pretty spot on- so, choke, I agree with you. So call me a stupid motherfucker for agreeing with you?

  • have fun! I only stopped by to see what this was all about, not join in any fights you are part of....

  • June 26, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Jesus, I see this talkback is being spammed by a couple of serious retards.

    by Queefer Sutherland

    No reason to stick around here. AICN ought to ban you sorry fucks.

  • June 26, 2012, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Ban hammer request.

    by DoctorWho?

    make it so.

  • June 26, 2012, 10:29 p.m. CST

    And you're still a giant retard.

    by Queefer Sutherland

  • June 26, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST


    by MrLongbaugh

    I second that. He has some serious mental issues he is dealing with and AICN is not the place he needs to be spending his time.

  • June 26, 2012, 11:41 p.m. CST


    by Eli_Cash

    So he's a plant. And a spammer at that. But he's not banned? Does AICN get paid to overlook this kind of stuff?

  • In the comics: Gwen was terrified of Spider-Man and hated everything to do with him. That was powerful for adding tension to Parker's story since he loved Gwen, but was SECRETLY Spider-Man. Well FUCK ALL THAT, right? Webb Know Better. Webb Do OPPOSITE. See, Webb Fix Stupid Spider-Man story from Stupid Comic Book. Fuck that shit. From the comics: J. Jonah Jameson vilifies Spidey in his paper. Capt. Stacy points out that Spidey is good and won't chase the poor boy. Well FUCK ALL THAT, right? Who needs Jameson? And let's toss out that interesting and wise Stacy to replace him with a loud-mouth tough cop cliche. See, Webb Fix Stupid Spider-Man story from Stupid Comic Book. From the movie: Gwen knows Parker is Spider-Man and loves it. Capt. Stacy dislikes Parker and Spider-Man. There is no J.J.J. and Parker is trying to find out who his parents are (wtf?). Who cares that some critics like it if it is ALL WRONG? If it shits on all the characters, but is somehow entertaining, so what? Why should anyone who likes/loves/cares about Spider-Man pay to see the characters shit on in an entertaining way?

  • June 27, 2012, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Kill it for the plants

    by Eli_Cash

    If the movie's inherent suckitude is not enough to keep you from seeing it, just look at the marketing tactics: dwills thegoblinknightlex ijacksparrow seanpb sminkypinky You like these guys' posts? No? Do you realize they are being paid by the studio for their contributions? If this movie is successful then these creeps will be paid to do it again. So kill it, for the plants.

  • June 27, 2012, 12:44 a.m. CST

    thegoblinknightlex must be getting paid by the word.

    by kevred

    Not that any of them are good or effective, mind you. The film looks crap and will make the least of the Spidey films.

  • June 27, 2012, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Kudos to floatingholmes

    by Chairman_Kaga

    Excellent points.

  • June 27, 2012, 1:16 a.m. CST


    by Eli_Cash

    *They seriously believe a studio needs to pay people to promote a Spidey movie to a bunch of malcontents on AICN. They'd be wasting their money.* The fact that you'd say this just demonstrates that you're a plant. The fact that studios hire pr firms for just this purpose is well documented. You aren't fooling anybody.

  • June 27, 2012, 4:17 a.m. CST

    gobbles just keeps adding fuel to the fire

    by Eli_Cash

    Way to go sony. look at this dipshit. You're basically paying him to alienate potential fans (not me). These tactics are making a better case than I could. Boycott.

  • June 27, 2012, 4:33 a.m. CST

    *Movie studios' artificial plants*

    by Eli_Cash

  • June 27, 2012, 4:47 a.m. CST


    by Eli_Cash An honest review. But read the comments. The plants are in full force attack mode. Sony's doing everything they can to derail any honest criticism of this turd. This needs to fail, for the unethical marketing tactics alone. Plants have always been around, but I've never seen such aggression.

  • June 27, 2012, 5:22 a.m. CST

    "it's probably best to avoid it."

    by Eli_Cash

    Harry said it best.

  • June 27, 2012, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Already down to 81% at RT

    by Todd1700

    Here comes the plunge as the non bought and paid for reviews start rolling in. IGN and Drew McWeeny reviews are up and stab a big turd dildo in this crapfests ass.

  • June 27, 2012, 5:38 a.m. CST


    by MegaBeth

    I just saw a special viewing of ASM. Thankfully it was free. Every criticism of this film is correct. It is absolutely horrible. Although the 13 year old girls were screaming everytime Garfield took off his mask, which was about every five minutes. AVOID THIS MOVIE AT ALL COSTS! The CGI is the worst I've seen in a major film. The first half is ALL talking and origin stuff that I've seen before. It was very boring until about 50 minutes in when the action starts. The action is okay but nothing groundbreaking. This movie is a turd.

  • so you better listen to him!!!!

  • The message board over there is a virtual forest.

  • June 27, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Also, Drew mentioned he read Capone's review, why isn't it posted yet?

    by SergeantStedenko

    Why is AICN always the last to post reviews?

  • June 27, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Oh, it's here.

    by SergeantStedenko

    My bad.

  • June 27, 2012, 10:32 a.m. CST


    by Ralph Scifaretto

    Sounds true... and I like it. Thoughts? READ AT YOUR OWN RISK Who dies: Lucius,, Bane, henchmen, many other people, bad guys, good guys, rich guys, etc. Who lives: Batman, Alfred, Gordon, Blake, Selina, Miranda……… Bane: bad ass, protege of Ras, friend to Talia AKA Miranda. Set this plan in action YEARS ago, and slowly built up the League again, while getting everything in place for this invasion. Known around the international intelligence community. VERY Brutal, very scary, but not seemingly crazy, in the sense that he always seems to be in control and steps ahead. Parents were killed when was a kid and he was raised and schooled by Ras who was very impressed with him, had a brief relationship with Talia, but after the accident he suffers while older he shuns her advances, due to his mask and his new found MINOR deformity. He wears the mask to conceal his pain, and because of a neurological disorder that makes it hard for him to control his body. This affects his adrenal levels as well. He is not THE leader of the league, but he’s the other half, as Talia is the other part. They disagree at times in particular when he kills ( ), he kills himself when Batman beats him, as he feels for one he has no other choice, and he feels Batman proved it was his victory, so his Ideals will win out. 1st appearance in Gotham is at the stock exchange, second is at the stadium and third is when he returns 6 months later as promised in his speech at the football stadium. That scene he kills the mayor in front of everyone, and tells them to take control of Gotham or he will do it for them. Of course Gotham sinks into hell after Gordons absences, Batmans disapearance, and everything he did to that point, so he comes back, to finish the job as promised. This part of the story takes over half the movie and there is A LOT THAT Happens. Catwoman AKA Selina: Thief, part of the group in Gotham that is recruited to make things happen for when the League shows up. Responsible for a string of thefts, that seems centered on the rich. She is first seen in Waynes mansion as a maid whom Bruce catches stealing from him. She gets away, and they again meet at a charity ball in gotham he attendss with Miranda. He goes to confront her and they dance, and then soon after she steals his car. Bruce is somewhat amused as he understood why she was saying she was adaptable when he said her dress was brazen for a burglar. As she didn’t need to wear anything special to pretend to be his wife and steal his car. She switches sides for a few reasons. One she never though Bane would take it as far as he did, She was SHOCKED when she learned Batman was in fact Bruce Wayne, and 3 her friend(played by Juno Temple) is someone she cares about and she fears what will happen to her and others like her should Bane continue and finish his plan. Much of which was not explained to her and others. She joines Batman, fights Talia, good fight, and remains the regular ol’ catwoman in the end. Not good, not bad, just mischiveous and apart fo gotham lore. She does have a scene with Bruce in the end, as he and her stand in front of his parents graves talking about the future. BATMAN: LIVES, and does in fact get broke in the first fight with Bane. Catwoman lured him to where Bane wanted him and closed the gate. But before we get there too far, let’s discuss Bruce. Bruce has taken full time to watch over Wayne Industries with the help of Talia and Fox, they have made it bigger and more influential than ever. He’s seen as a rich snob, who is no better than any other rich snob by most in Gotham, Even though he dwells into much more research, development, and philanthropy than others. Anyways, his cane use is what we think from TDK. We come to find out he doesn’t really need it though, and he uses it as a reason/excuse as to why he can’t be Batman anymore, one of many. But we find out just before the 1st bane fight and during his talk with Gordon in the hospital, that he’s not as hurt as he lets on, though he isn’t in the shape he as in TDK. Batman after being implored by Gordon, decides that he must put on the mask once again. He eventually is led to Banes lair, and fights a few of his men, he then sees Seline and chases her down, to which she lures him to Bane, They fight, and Batman barely even puts up a fight at all, as he seemingly can’t even hurt Bane, if he should even land a punch. Bane breaks his back, via military press and slam over his knee. He then appears ready to snap his neck but instead rips off his mask, and pushes him down. Fight over, Bane has him taken away to imprisonment. Batman meets up with Dr. taken in prologue, find out about banes mask and such, as well as some of the plan, and some of Banes secrets. Bruce eventually escapes through great effort, and return to gotham. Bruce heals in about 6 months time, and returns to gotham after a great escape and effort to escape the well, somewhat mirroring what happened in BB with his father, except this time he’s the one who must get out himself. Once out he meets up with Lucius and then Alfred, as well as Selina who was hiding in the mansion after her escape from prison. They team up, and Batman meets up with Gordon on the streets in a very cool scene. During this time or before if I remember correctly Miranda is revealed, as Talia, as Lucius discovers this and Bane kills him as he come up behind him. This angers Miranda as she liked Fox and regrets that he was killed. This REALLY angers Bruce, though, as he goes to Fox to get some weapons/equipment, and he’s even more mad when he finds out that Miranda was involved. He is not though explained as to who Miranda really is yet, as Talia doesn’t even say what her real name is til close to the end. Batman though along with his allies, meet bane and co. in battle and push them back to their hideout eventually. Batman and talia have a heart to heart, in between this, and she explains that she is RAs daughter, via flashback, seeing both old and young Ras. You also see this when Bane explains Ras in the prison. Anyways Batman chases Bane back down to his hideout, and they fight once again, this time, with Batman emerging victor, and Bane conceding the victory, just before removing his own mask, and letting himself die, as he apparently can’t breath properly with out the mask. Miranda has tears for him and for Bruce, as she escapes, presumbably for good. In the end Batman decides that he will remain as Batman as long as Gotham needs him, especially now that the rebuilding period is sure to bring more hard times, and as Batman is now in the favor of the public, he must continue to do what he can, BECAUSE he can. Alfred agrees and says that BATMAN as a symbol only works because Bruce makes it work, he is perhaps the only one that can make it work. Alfred speaks with Bruce in the cave about how well he worked with Selina, and perhaps he should find some help that he can trust won’t steal the china from our cabinets. Bruce says he’s not sure he’d have any idea where to even look for someone like that. While Alfred jokes that well it would at least be nice to get some help around the cave as taking care of the mansion and the cave is too much for an old man. Alfred jokes that maybe bruce can take the night off and take an old man to the circus for a much needed night out. Mentioning the Flying Graysons act is supposed to be quite the show. Bruce tells him he can’t tonight but he will before the circus leaves town or something,… Movie ends with Gordon celebrating the rebuilding of Gotham precinct after Bane blew it up, and once again shines the Bat signal in honor of Batmans efforts. The city applauds and batman looks on, as you get a large view of gotham and the rebuilding efforts, you then from a distance see him swoop down as the camera follows behind him as he does his thing. MIranda Tate/ Talia: she is in the shadows most of the movie and appears quite a bit in the beginning as Bruces girlfriend, whom they have a passionate relationship with each other. She is one of the reaons Wayne Enterprises is flourishing so well, and is invovled heavily with the company. When Bruce goes missing she assumes control of the board as Fox is busy dealing with ways to find Bruce, and others things. Unbeknownst to him Talia in her time with the company was using Wayne Ent, to build up the league, with weapons, financing, and to help create the foothold for them once the plan was put into action. She is discovered by Lucius to be the one that helped bane get to the shattering device, as well as many other things. When she is discovered she then shows her true colors, and joines with Bane, after Bane kills Lucius. Sad. She then reveals who she is to Bruce when they again meet up, and he is shocked that she had the will and fortitude to play it out like she did and for as long as she did. She apparently was with Wayne for awhile. He’s quite saddened and angry about this. But seems to worry more about Bane, and sees her as less of a threat. She does battle with Selina as batman does battle with Bane. She is found to be VERY formidable as fighter and gives Selina everything she can handle. Before finally being beaten. As Bane loses she regains consciousness to witness it, and is saddened by what she consideres a tragic story in bane. As well as her regret for what she did and her knowing she can never make it right with Bruce, she leaves/escapes, with the implication she WILL NOT return. John Blake: does not take up the mantle of batman at all. If anything he takes over for Gordon for awhile and is just a good cop that helps in the effort to quell Banes forces. He is though integral to the plan as he relays to Gordon that Batman may still be alive, and he also has a big part in helping in the final battle and getting to Banes lair in the end. It is implied that in time he may take over as Commissioner in time, He is though promoted to Lt. in the end. Good guy, he even arrests Selina in the first half though she escapes as said before. Gordon: Typical Gordon, does this job, helps lead the way, but gets messed up early in the film in an altercation with Banes and his men, he pleas with the masked man that visit him in the hospital to return as Batman, before passing out. Then when he heals, he is somewhat powerless to do anything as everyone is afraid to engage Bane as he warned he would cause havoc should they try and come after him, ala, earthquake to city with his machine. Gordon though is happy to find that Batman has returned and then along with Blake convince the police that they have to fight back once the city is barricaded and the bridges are blown. Tidibts: Banes mask comes off only when he takes it off. He seems to not sleep with it on, and uses a sort of respirator that isn’t so uncomfortable. The other time he takes it off is when he loses to Batman, and concedes defeat. A sort of honorable gesture on his part actually, as he agrees that he has lost and Batman has earned his right to do it his way. Both fights with Batman, actually 3, of them, are all pretty nasty and brutal. Bane is clearly Bruces equal. But his story is similiar to Bruces, and perhaps worse as he didn’t grow up with wealth like Bruce did, and lived a very hard life. He’s very scary, and it’s hard to watch him sometimes as you are sure he’s about to F someone up at anytime and quite brutally at that. Plus his plan is VERY big in scope and surefire, YES HE does have a bullet proof vest, as do certain members of his crew, making it hard to have a gun fight with them. They have about 3-4 tumblers and are quite well armed and trained, ala, league style. Miranda seems to be the TRUE leader of the league, though Bane commands just as much respect. Bane is very loyal though, and mentions her father many tims thoughout the movie to her and Batman. Selina, is very wishy washy as loyalties go, but it’s clear she’s not a bad person. Just a bit of a deviant. She makes it clear that playing good isn’t going to be the lifetime choice she’ll make. She has a best friend who is younger and she apprently cares for. She LOVES stealing is is very good at it, and she has a stockpile hidden in her place. She hid in Waynes mansions when she escaped from Jail to hide from the police AND Bane, only to be discovered with Bruce returns. The movie has a more comicbook feel to it then TDK did, and is more along the lines of of BB.

  • June 27, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    You here that everyone

    by MrLongbaugh

    Touch football? LMAO That is fucking hilarious!!!

  • we had no idea you were a professional troll excuse foir a human being - 20 to 30 posts in response should be fine- we all love your anger and hang on every word

  • and by the way the mid end credit sequence is---- *spoliers* norman osbourne (played by michael massee) in the shadows of connors cell saying he needs the boy connors replies "you leave him out of this" he is credited as man in the shadows as you never see his face and he referenced throughout the movie as connors is trying to save his life with the serum oh and i loved the movie it was great! not a plant! if i dont get back on here ask me on twitter @pjslim

  • June 27, 2012, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Oh lord, that Spamalot Goblin is back.

    by D.Vader

  • June 27, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    d.vader - but secretly you love him, right?

    by Michael Lunney

  • June 27, 2012, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Is that what he's saying, McGoo?

    by D.Vader

    I can't be bothered to read through all that spam.

  • June 27, 2012, 3:57 p.m. CST


    by AzulTool

  • June 27, 2012, 4:11 p.m. CST


    by Jessica white

    Please tell me that's an epic Dark Knight Rises spoiler. I relish the idea of mass fangeek outrage and tears.

  • June 27, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST


    by Jessica white

    Your repeated use of the term "bitch" is highly offensive. Please restrain yourself. Thank you.

  • Its the internet. Everyone can easily lie. Saying you're more educated and successful than someone you're antagonizing and arguing with defeats the point and invites bigger and bigger lies.

  • June 27, 2012, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Too Soon...

    by Homer Sexual

    This movie may very well be as good or better than Raimi's first. I bet if it continued the story, it would have more buzz. But um, we know the story a little too well at this point. Superman, as well... I am boycotting any origin movies of characters already in movies... No buzz doesn't mean it's bad..

  • June 27, 2012, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Please ban this user: @thegoblinknightlex

    by Jessica white

  • June 27, 2012, 6:02 p.m. CST

    I get it now...

    by Homer Sexual

    Way up in the thread, someone said this movie is made for the Twilight demo... duh! Sofa King obvious... but i needed it pointed out.... stilll.... IDK if that demo will be drawn to this..

  • June 27, 2012, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Many thanks in advance, gentlemen.

    by Jessica white

  • June 27, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Oh I guess the mods didn't like Gobby spamming so much

    by D.Vader

    So much for all his gloating about getting away with it all.

  • June 28, 2012, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Aww. Dammit. Didn't get to read the plants's posts

    by Dingbatty

    before they scrubbed them.

  • June 28, 2012, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Weird. My post disappeared.

    by Dingbatty

  • June 28, 2012, 2:14 a.m. CST


    by MrLongbaugh

    That guy was a pain. I am sure things are getting busy in Charlotte with the Convention coming to town. Enjoy the crowds :) We live in the same state. I am in W-S. Take it easy.

  • among the many who-the hell-does-he-think-he-is (he claimed to have a PhD in Human Psychology, which he put to good use, coming here on what he called his vacation time to insult what he termed geek filth) comments he made in the lst few days: He wished that one of jay 2517-s kids would shoot their father to death - he will be missed? And he was so excited to see Spiderman last night at a free preview he was attending with friends who met some of the film's actors, and come here and post his, ahem, *review* THat would have made for a fun read? Wonder what the final decision was that made made the powers that be ban him

  • June 28, 2012, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Whoa, Mr.Longbaugh, how'd you know that?

    by D.Vader

    Yeah there have been lots of offers from media groups coming into town. The Daily Show will be here, lots of news organizations too and video crews for PBS and who knows what else. Its going to be freaking insane for two weeks. Oy. So you're up in WS, eh? Owen Wilson and Zach Galifinakis up there making a movie with Mad Men's Matthew Weiner. Have you seen any of them around town?

  • June 28, 2012, 12:35 p.m. CST


    by MrLongbaugh

    Another TB'er and I were talking and realized we only lived about 30-40 miles apart. He mentioned that you also live in-state. Us two and another started calling ourselves *The Amigos* as in *The 3 Amigos". We have since added a 4th. Mcgoo, Jay, Pa are the others. I guess you could say we are on-line friends. Myself and the other 2 originals just endured almost a week of antics from the goblin guy. He was a real donkey. As far as the Owen Wilson movie, they are shooting in Madison, NC, which is like 25-30 minutes from me. I saw a segment on the local news about it, but haven't ventured up there to see anything. Hope you can endure the madness of the Convention. Peace out!!

  • June 28, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST


    by MrLongbaugh

    Thanks for whatever part you might have played in getting that person banned. He was offensive to EVERYONE!! Thanks again!!!