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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!
Here we look at Uma Thurman, David Carradine and Quentin Tarantino on the set of Kill Bill… What’s technically right here? Calling it Kill Bill or Kill Bill v.2? I mean, the whole thing was shot at the same time, so it feels weird calling it the set of Kill Bill v.2, but I guess it’s accurate. Anyway, where am I? Who are all you people?
Right, the BtSPotD column. Whatever the hell we deem it appropriate this is for certain a Kill Bill set and it’s from the climactic confrontation between Bill and The Bride. So it is cool. It also double cool because you can see the white-haired brilliant director of photography, Robert Richardson in the background.
Thanks to Pat Barnett for sending this one along! Click to enlargen it all super Leone scope style!
If you have a behind the scenes shot you’d like to submit to this column, you can email me at quint@aintitcool.com.
Screw it! One more Part 2 for tomorrow’s pic! Or should I say “Part Too.”
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June 25, 2012, 12:53 a.m. CST
sorry, never been first before. my work here is done.
by Gareth Holton
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but sadly, no.
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Second film meh.
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Baby, you ain't kiddin'.
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June 25, 2012, 1:42 a.m. CST
I love Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction but yes Kill Bill is very "meh"
by Rupee88
Just seemed forced and empty and hollow and just not that good...mostly forgettable.
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I will always respect Kill Bill vols. 1 and 2 as a great experiment, but they could have been a great movie if they'd been edited to one 2 1/2 to 3-hour film. I don't know there's anything I would completely take out, but there is much to trim.
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June 25, 2012, 1:47 a.m. CST
Anti-climactic ending, and that whole Superman speech, bleeaghh
by 3D-Man
Still liked the movies, but.... yeah....
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... If Bill was a sorcerer like in the early drafts of the script. I think it would have made things a bit more interesting. Tomorrow's pic is "Part Too"? I think we're finally getting that behind the scenes pic from Look Who's Talking Too. Yay! ;)
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June 25, 2012, 2:22 a.m. CST
David Carradine was one of the best aspects of both films.
by Christian Sylvain
What a cold, clever, calculated villain. I can't imagine anyone else who could have played Bill with such composure. Whatever faults Vol. 2 has (mostly pacing), it's made up for by every second Carradine is on the screen.
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loving the kung fu films referenced in Kill Bill, I loved em both..... Maybe it's cuz I'm loosely in the same age group as Tarantino.
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loving the kung fu films referenced in Kill Bill, I loved em both..... Maybe it's cuz I'm loosely in the same age group as Tarantino.
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The first movie was this silly, fun, martial arts romp. The second movie was David Carradine talking and talking and talking and talking. And their final "battle" was so fucking lame. Those two films could have been combined into one, with most of Carradine's scenes drastically cut. Terrible pacing. Tarantino had no idea how to complete this story, and he fucked it up. There should have been a scene where Bill hangs himself in the closet and jerks himself off. That would have been a neat insight into the character.
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was one of the best parts of the second movie.... bet you like dubstep
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...will be from the overlooked classic Look Who's Talking Too!
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Seriously, what a ponderous, slow mess. You're waiting...and waiting...and waiting...and waiting for something to happen, and just as you're about to get to some good stuff...it's over in ten seconds and then it's back to waiting. Ugh. But on a lighter note, David Carradine's last movie should've been "Die Hard".
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June 25, 2012, 4:21 a.m. CST
Just agreeing with everyone else saying Part 2 was boring
by FlandersBum
...especially after Part one pretty much rocked. What a letdown.
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June 25, 2012, 4:41 a.m. CST
Jackie Brown was the last decent movie Tarantino made
by you-me-n-marley
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for what was probably the most intimate moment in the movie .... movies .... whatever !
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Part 1 came out and the fans moaned "it's all action, where's all that wonderful, quotable QT dialogue?" so he made part 2 with less action and more dialogue, and .......... well, it just goes to prove the old adage that you can't please any of the people any of the time !!!
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...that i have watched again straight after it finished.
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Action, humor, great dialouge...what's not to like. The scene with Bill's adoptive father was brilliant. The training of Beatrice. The anime segment. This is a shining example of all that can be right in film making.
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I prefer both the Kill Bills over Resevoir Dogs, Jackie Brown and Grindhouse. Ah well, to each their own.
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I have to admit it's been a while since I watched either of them but I just remember thinking Volume 1 was a bit over the top and silly, with spurting fountains of blood and physics-defying fight scenes. I know it was supposed to emulate the old Asian cinema classics but Volume 2 just felt more...Tarantinoey to me. I agree it is very talky though, can't help but feel a bit of editing could've balanced both films a bit better.
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Come on guys, pick up the slack! (nothing against the PotDs of course as they're brilliant)
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The first one didn't really do anything for me when I first watched it. I then went to watch it again with a friend who hadn't seen it and it just clicked. But the second one REALLY impressed me. Tho I didn't like the superman speech, and still don't. It feels too much like Tarantino speaking thru his character. Plus I disagree with the argument. Clark Kent is the real guy, with his rural boyscout morality and disposition. It just that people think its sweet goofy when he doesn't show his powers, and noble when he does.
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Part of what I like is that there are no tricks. The film is called Kill Bill, we know that is how it will end, so the fight isn't really the climax, it's everything up until it that's the true confrontation, the coming to terms between Beatrix and Bill. It's not the what but the how that's important. Just like the fight with Oren, which was full of tension even though we know The Bride wins because we've see Oren's name crossed out in the beginning at Vernita's house.
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June 25, 2012, 6:34 a.m. CST
Remember it's the villain giving the Superman speech.
by Monolith_Jones
We're not supposed to agree fully with it, we want Beatrix to be able to change and carry on a normal life without pretending.
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There is a real mythology in this film - much more than any of his others. He shows how much of an artist he is with character development. I wish he would do more films like this.
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... the fight scenes are the LEAST interesting parts of the film - and that's saying a lot.
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I think somebody just referred to him as being less than intelligent.
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While I'll admit that Tarantino has been visibly burdened with the excellence of his first two films, there's still much to love about everything he has ever done (never got round to seeing Four Rooms, so no comment). After everything Vol 1 gave, it doesn't matter that 2 is slow by comparison. You;re hooked enough to just want to see how things play out. And 'No', a single film of 'Kill Bill' wouldn't have worked. Only just got around to seeing Death Proof a couple of weeks ago, and was blown away by it. I love his disregard for an apt ending, choosing instead to just blow the fuck out of everything.
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Both part 1 and 2. And I think the team up with Robert Richardson was the best.
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Nice picture....I wish I could work on a film set.
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. . . next week people will be ripping Jaws a new one . . .
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Basically re-edit all 6 star wars flicks into two volumes, mimiking the structure of Kill Bill as much as possible, basically ripping out all but the important plot points of Eps 1-3 and making the climactic fight Luke/Vader vs Emperor.
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Vol 1 was a bloodbath and Vol 2 was a character study. If you watch them back to back it makes perfect sense.
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1. Great design for a night club, right up there with Jack Rabbit Slims. 2. The 5,6,7,8's. A Japanese girl band singing California surf rock and kicking ass at it. 3. The Bride wearing the same yellow jumpsuit as Bruce Lee in "Game of Death". 4. The slow build up to the fight and the Bride finally announcing her presence with authority. 5. "Silly Rabbit..Trix are for Kids." 6. After that long exhausting battle, the Bride leaving the building pursuing O'Ren out into the courtyard. The cool blue night and snow has an immediate calming effect on the audience after all the action we just witnessed. Even when Tarantino shoots The Bride talking with O'Ren we see the building behind her lit up with gold and red tones like it's on fire.
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June 25, 2012, 8:02 a.m. CST
Vol 1 is better than 2, mainly because it has a ton of the action.
by shutupfanboy
Still, Great films. And yeah hating on QT is pretty amateur hour after Bastards. Bill's Superman speech was the best part of 2 along with the fight in the trailer.
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June 25, 2012, 8:07 a.m. CST
Btw, where the fuck is THE WHOLE BLOODY AFFAIR bluray set???
by NeonFrisbee
That's what I wanna know.
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Having watched this recently on bluray the grass looks like astroturf (a la the Brady Families' backyard), and as Bill walks off after he gets the palm technique, if you look at the right hand side of the "sky" you will notice what looks to be outline of the corner of a wall. So is this just cheap film making, or was this outdoor porch of Bill's actually an indoor recreation of the outside?
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Anything to the contrary is being uttered by simpleton horse rapists. Pulp Fiction is great, but Kill Bill is an epic.
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June 25, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST
KILL BILL is, hands down, my fave Tarantino movie. The ludicrously overrated (but still entertaining in spots) INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS (sic) is my least favorite.
by NeonFrisbee
Perhaps objectively PULP FICTION is his best, but for my money it's all about KILL BILL. It hit all my buttons. But, come on, let's face it, INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS was NOWHERE NEAR the masterpiece some claim it is, and had no business being nominated for best picture. It had some great scenes, but as a film, it's sloppy and all over the place. I think some people let their wish fulfillment override what was actually transpiring on screen.
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Doesn't he go on about how Clark is the mask and Superman is the real personality and that Superman can't connect with humanity? I don't feel that to be true at all. From what I gather in my years of comic reading is that Clark would much rather the world not need a Superman and live a normal life with Lois but granted these girfts of a god he is forced to be the protector of his adopted world. It's beena while seen I've seen the speech. I know it's on youtube but I'm at work. I just seem to remember thinking he(Tarantino) got it all wrong.
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If anyone else's name other than QT was attached to that steaming pile it wouldn't get an ounce of the love it gets.
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I love the high contrast of the ceaseless violence of part 1 & the more contemplative part 2.
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June 25, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST
PTOO! You so-called exquisite art is only fit for...Japanese fat-heads! [ZOOM]
by Nasty In The Pasty
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [strokes beard] The Pai Mei stuff in Volume 2 is some of my favorite material in either volume of Kill Bill. I just wish it went on longer.
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June 25, 2012, 8:34 a.m. CST
is there anybody who doesn't think DEATH PROOF was his worst film?
by Spandau Belly
As for the KILL BILLs, they were okay. Some boring parts, lots of annoying parts, but some cool stuff too. JACKIE BROWN is still the champ. I'm hoping DJANGO UNCHAINED is as good as it looks.
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June 25, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST
News story's anyone? Harry was telling us a couple of months ago how this site will have more content.
by Kill List Hammertime
Sort it the fuck out.
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Budd, FTW. Bill's take on Superman was the icing on the cake. But I liked Dredd '95, too.
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June 25, 2012, 8:53 a.m. CST
Does QT know that DRIVE was much better than DEATH PROOF?
by ScreamingPenis
probably not
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They can make breakfast.
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'Pai Mei taught you the five point palm-exploding heart technique?' 'Of course he did.' As delivered and given context in Kill Bill these lines serve as a distillation of an entire film genre. Seriously, watch the movie(s) again, back to back, with this in mind. You'll understand.
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June 25, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST
Bill's take on Superman is more about Bill's mental state
by Samuel Fulmer
than it is a statement on Superman. He thought of Beatrix (much like we thought of her in the first film) as nothing more than Black Mamba, not realizing that she didn't see herself in the same light.
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from Jules Feiffer.
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June 25, 2012, 9:08 a.m. CST
What's weird is I always think this was a trilogy for a split-second before correcting myself.
by spacehog
I guess I have a poor recollection of what scenes are in which volume, and everything's gotta be a goddamn trilogy these days, and it's just this mental block I can't break. Anyway I'd say the Superman speech is inaccurate because Superman wants to inspire humanity, to help it be the best it can be. His goal, I'd say, is a world that doesn't need Superman at all. Shlubby, clumsy Clark isn't how he sees us, it's just what he needs to do to disguise his frame. If Clark were a confident, brave athlete the disguise would be even more tenuous than it is already. Besides ... I don't regularly read the Superman comics, but isn't Clark a really good reporter? It's not like he's portrayed as a loser. I think what particularly cements the Superman speech as being wrong is it's essentially how Lex Luthor sees Superman: a guy who's getting in the way of humanity's progress, a guy who probably thinks of us as insects. It makes sense that Bill, basically the villain of the movies, is the person espousing those views.
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Read "The Great Comic Book Heroes."
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June 25, 2012, 9:12 a.m. CST
I'd like to congratulate queefer southerland for being an idiot and an asshole.
by Gabe Athouse
An idiot for not liking the movie, and an asshole for being the first to gratuitously mention Carradine's death. Eat it, fanboy.
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You are?
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June 25, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST
Hey guys, remember in talkbacks when Inglourious Basterds was gonna be shitty
by master_of_realty
and The Expendables was gonna be awesome? ...yeah...
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June 25, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
I'd like to see Tarantino take on another Elmore Leonard adaptation
by Samuel Fulmer
Since Jackie Brown is one of his best, and the way Tarantino writes dialogue is very much "inspired" by Leonard. Maybe Swag (Ryan's Rules)??????? He's preaty much said though he more than likely will never do another adaptation.
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It's monumentally silly and is preceded by several embarrassing scenes, but I love how Bill's death scene is executed. The music, lighting, colours, Carradine's proud acceptance of his fate, it's one of my favorite QT moments.
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June 25, 2012, 9:48 a.m. CST
The fight scenes in the confined spaces of the suburban home and the trailer are brilliant, and makes me
by openthepodbaydoorshal
wish more directors would view those scenes as to how to photograph and edit an effective and COHERENT fight scene.
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June 25, 2012, 9:58 a.m. CST
I die a little when someone says a movie has "too much talking"
by master_of_realty
Especially a Tarantino...
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...adaption. And about his fifth best movie. God, I hate this sad poseur stance of calling Jackie Brown Tarantino's best movie. Yes, you are all special little guys, unique as the swirls on a albino street artist's fingertips, nonconformist as the dude who went into investment banking only as a long term piece of performance art. You all have the same exotically unique opinion expressed in the same absolutely fresh and startingly personal and insightful style. Point made, fellas. Point well made.
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But I had a good time watching Kill Bill 1 and 2 in the theater. The end fight in the snow along with the music played was my favorite scene in the films. With the exception of Uma being buried alive.
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and it's an honest one, based on real curiosity-- Is there anyone who thought J.B. was his best film who is NOT a white guy? I'm wondering about how cultural attitudes affect perception of that one. but I loved Kill Bill II, and the way he played on everyone's expectations of some huge Kung fu fight between Bill and Bea. And most of all, how Bill knew he wasn't the one to raise their daughter, and gave her a chance to prove she was strong enough to do it. Priceless, and a wonderful character moment.
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The Tarantino film that had the most "real" characters and the script was fairly linear (other than the different takes on the heist). The B-movie love was more of the subtext than how it became the actual text of films like Kill Bill and Death Proof. Also the last film that he didn't have Richardson as DP, which with Richardson as DP, the films have had a much more expressive look.
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The question remains: is there anyone who is not a white guy who thinks Jackie Brown is his best film? Simple question.
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June 25, 2012, 11:15 a.m. CST
The Superman speech works only for the Superman/Kent seen in the Reeve movies.
by hank henshaw
The Clark Kent from the comics, be it Golden Age, Silver Age or Byrne (don't know or care about New52) was never as overtly clumsy and pathetic as the one seen in the movies. Clark Kent was supposed to be "mild-mannered", an everyman that blends in with the background. Bill's speech works even less so for post-1986 Superman, where Clark Kent grew up believing to be human, discovered most of his powers as a teen, and becomes Superman, not because he is forced to, but because it's the right thing to do. The Kents are his true parents, Jor-El and Lara represent his Kryptonian heritage but he never really met them. Just like it's universally accepted that Bruce Wayne is just a "mask" and that the true persona is Batman, it works so much better if Clark Kent is the true personality, and Superman a costume he puts on. Clark Kent only turns into Superman as a reaction to something bad happening that he can see or listen. He is more like a firefighter.
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I'm Black and I think Jackie Brown is QT's best movie, although my personal favorite is Pulp Fiction. Does that count?
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That speech is something I'd expect from a cynic. Superman sometimes does play it up a little clumsy (especially in the Reeve films, excellent point Mr. Henshaw) but my take is that he does that to distnance himself as far from Superman as possible. He needs to protect his loved ones. Hurting one of the people he loves is the one way to bring Superman down. Clark Kent is not his "critique" of the human race. Clark Kent is who he is...a good, kind and yes, mild-mannered man who holds a tremendous amount of power in check...and this power us used in the service of mankind.
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What about Jackie Brown is of higher quality than Pulp Fiction? Just curious.
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Indeed it does! Thanks--and I like the Shaft reference.
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Clark is definitely the mask. The measure of a mask is whether you wear it when no one is watching. When Kal-el is alone, he behaves like Superman, not Kent. "Clark" is definitely the costume. Now, that said, clearly Bill is more than a cynic. He is a sociopathic monster who has one tiny soft spot--for his child. That changes him, opens him, and ultimately dooms him. The tragedy of "Kill Bill" is that he and the Bride are as close to natural mates as either will ever find, and cannot be together because of their history. The Bride has a chance of redemption through love of her child...and Bill got as much redemption as his twisted soul will ever have the chance for, by giving the Bride a fighting chance to prove she is worthy of raising his cub. Lovely stuff.
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June 25, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST
Why I like Jackie Brown...Robert Forster's and Pam Grier's performances.
by openthepodbaydoorshal
World weary and wise never looked better than on Forster's face, and Miss Grier proved she is more than just a hot bod. Jackson, DeNiro, Keaton and Fonda were icing on the cake.
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June 25, 2012, 12:12 p.m. CST
...and it came out when I was going through a Leonard reading marathon..
by openthepodbaydoorshal
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As someone has already mentioned, the performances QT got out of Pam Grier and Robert Forster in particular, as well as just about all of the remaining cast, were a big part of what made Jackie Brown his best film for me. Plus I think the overall story held together better, and was less gimmicky, and QT didn't seem to be doing as much straining to be clever. For me, the overall filmmaking was better, although, as I said, Pulp Fiction is my favorite because I found it to be more entertaining. And Hipshot - so far you are the only TBer who appears to have picked up on the Shaft reference. Judging from that and many of your postings, you are a man with whom I share similar sensibilities!
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Close it yourself, shitty!
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I'm an Elmore Leonard fan. The plot and writing were simply better than QT's other stuff because it was based on something superior to his own work. Elmore Leonard's story elevated Tarantino. One scene is really spooky, though. If you look close enough, at one point Pam Grier opens her closet door and you can barely see David Carradine hanging. It's really brief and you can't see it well, but I swear it's there. Really spooky.
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OK, and what are the great quotable lines from Jackie Brown? I liked Jackie Brown on its own merits... it's a better-than-average film of its type and the plot twists are cleverly done. But it's also the one QT film that doesn't feel like a QT film to me, since it entirely lacks the speedball wit and goofiness I associate with his films.
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an immature fanboy with the emotional development of a kitana sword.
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June 25, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
Wating patiently for a Blu of the Whole Bloody Affair..............
by Yelsaeb
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So good writing in only a matter of "quotable lines"? Then I guess there are NO good Tarantino films to me, because I'm not one who traffics in "quotable lines" and can't tell you a single quote from any of his movies. Writing is more than "quotable lines" you stupid fucking dimwit. It involves plot, plot progression, believable personalities and relationships, etc., etc. You obviously wouldn't know good writing if it flew up your ass and fucked you for half an hour.
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"And you ain't so Black!"
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...but as others have pointed out, the 30 minutes (hours?) preceding it, the Superman thing, the "fish flopping on the carpet"...ugh. That whole (anti)climax pretty much takes the wind out of the sails of both films. An uncharacteristic lapse. But QT got back on top with 'Inglourious Basterds," in my opinion.
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June 25, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST
Inglorious Bastards was great in the beginning with Waltz as the head SS goon.
by DanielnocharismaCraig
But quickly lost it's momentum when Brad Pitt showed up.
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I met Richard Roundtree when he was doing the Shaft television series at CBS. He was exceptionally cool. He was also apparently dating Freda Payne at the time, who was smokin hot. Yow. "I'm not James Bond. just...Sam Spade."
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You know, it is possible to express an opposing viewpoint without sounding like an angry 14-year-old. You might want to take another look at my post. I acknowledged the merits of Jackie Brown (sort of begrudgingly, because most of Elmore Leonard's output tends to irritate me) and said that I was disappointed by it because I missed the wit and quotability of QT's other films. And no, quotable lines are not the be-all and end-all of good writing or good cinema. You're right about that. And if you had simply made that point without managing to work in multiple references to my asshole, you would have come out ahead.
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Ha.... I throw peanut butter in your face and steal your dog.... Ha
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June 26, 2012, 12:23 p.m. CST
lol @queefer's carradine jokes.
by where_are_quints_hobbit_set_reports
They make me smile, but not as much as QUINT'S HOBBIT SET REPORTS would.
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