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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!
Iron Man is still my favorite Marvel movie. There hasn’t been one Marvel Studios movie I’ve disliked, actually, but there’s something special about Iron Man. I hope Kevin Feige and the Marvel team send Jon Favreau a thank you email every day because it was his vision that locked the cinematic Marvel universe in. He had the right idea, brilliantly cast the picture, hit a fantastic playful, but not silly tone and, maybe most importantly of all, hired Matty Libatique to shoot it.
You may prefer other Marvel movies and I get that. It’s the same way with the books themselves… different characters speak to different people. As much as I love what Joss Whedon did with The Avengers, you can still feel Favreau’s influence on the character. Little things, like the gravity dynamics of the suit in flight, all stem from that first movie.
Now, Iron Man 2 doesn’t hold up as well. It’s an oddly small story. The stakes never feel huge and it suffers from the same problem that the first one did… a big build up to a kind of wimpy main villain battle. But again, Favreau’s strengths still show through. The man knows how to cast a picture. Sam Rockwell, Mickey Rourke… and Gary Shandling as a dickhead Senator? I mean, come on!
The script problems with Iron Man 2 are well reported. If they could have spent a year fine-tuning it I think the film could have been The Empire Strikes Back to Iron Man’s Star Wars, but as it stands now it’s a fun movie that feels more of a side story than a main arc.
Today’s pic comes from the making of Iron Man 2 as Favreau goes over some script pages with Downey and Don Cheadle in Stark's lab. Thanks to Pat Barnett for sending this one along! Click to enlargen!
If you have a behind the scenes shot you’d like to submit to this column, you can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Holy shit, another Part 2 tomorrow? When will the madness stop?!? Here’s a hint: tomorrow’s pic features a big showdown between two ex-lovers.
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June 23, 2012, 8:55 p.m. CST
June 23, 2012, 9 p.m. CST
Gotta be Rocky II.
June 23, 2012, 9 p.m. CST
Particularly after the immense enjoyment of the first film. Can only hope Shane Black's sequel is a much better sequel...
June 23, 2012, 9:01 p.m. CST
But Cheadle was still a massive improvement. And the cast WAS really great. I have a personal peeve with this film though. Right after I put the blu in my PS3... it stopped reading disks. And it hasn't worked since. Not the film's fault of course... but damn.
June 23, 2012, 9:03 p.m. CST
Cmon how the hell can you not be overjoyed at the last battle when war machine is shooting his wrist guns and his shoulder gun all in different different directions?
June 23, 2012, 9:20 p.m. CST
by Raptor Jesus
I mean, it's not Battleship, but still was pretty darn good.
June 23, 2012, 9:24 p.m. CST
I guess it could have been good for those people totally new the character but as someone who grew up with it from the comic books, the movie was nothing special...marginally entertaining.
June 23, 2012, 9:27 p.m. CST
by Rebel Scumb
I actually think IM1 is my least favorite of the Marvel saga so far, and I still think it's pretty good. I don't get the hate for IM2, it's just more of the same from the first film, but a bunch more great actors thrown in, and while the climax is still weak it's better to the climax from film 1
June 23, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST
..it was just too forgettable. Whiplash had the bad fake russian accent so I couldn't understand half of what he was saying (and ya, I can understand what Bane is saying, so it's not me just bitching cus I can't hear) and I still can't remember if Whiplash died in it or not. I sort of remember the ending, but barely. The end of an action movie should blow you away, not be a meh.
June 23, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST
Dude is GREAT.
June 23, 2012, 9:30 p.m. CST
It's gotta be Kill Bill Vol. 2, Beatrix vs Bill.
June 23, 2012, 9:31 p.m. CST
It grows on you with repeated viewings.
June 23, 2012, 9:34 p.m. CST
I saw the Marvel Movie Marathon before Avengers. Iron Man 2 was in there obviously and you know I really enjoyed it as part of the whole Marvel Movie universe. Is it Iron Man good, absolutely not, but not much is. Until Avengers no Marvel movie topped Iron Man. Iron Man 2 had its problems but it was exciting and good in its own right, it just did not stand up to the ridiculous proportions of awesome put up by its predecessor.
June 23, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST
June 23, 2012, 9:51 p.m. CST
by Arcadian Del Sol
so his contributions alone make IM2 a really fun movie. I've netflixed it about 15 times now, and say what you will about the script choices, but Rockwell really did a fantastic job.
June 23, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
It was one of those sequels that seemed to exist for no reason but to set up ANOTHER sequel, just spinning it's wheels aimlessly for two hours. And in those two hours, we got...what, three action sequences? Mostly it was just Robert Downey Jr. smugly accepting applause for the first movie...over and over and OVER. I hope like hell Iron Man 3 will return to the fun of the first film (and The Avengers).
June 23, 2012, 10:03 p.m. CST
if only because his origin is the most interesting thing about him - and also because, as Whedon so eloquently put it, "triangle is ass."
June 23, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST
by hank henshaw
I think Stark's poisoning was poorly resolved: SHIELD had an antidote somehow, but was only temporary? Why not develop a cure from that antidote? Whiplash made for a lame adversary, and his fight with IM and WM lasted a good 20-25 seconds. It also suffered from having to do a lot of exposition for SHIELD in preparation for the next Avengers movies.
June 23, 2012, 10:44 p.m. CST
The problem with Iron Man 2 was that whole stupid half-hour with the Stark Expo Diarama secret message -- totally pointless, uninteresting, contrived, and stupid
by golden tribw
Even the first time I watched the movie I found it complete uninteresting. It's just like in THE DARK KNIGHT when they decide to have Batman use this stupid magical-nonsensical phone-based sonar thing just so they can jerk off another million bucks of special effects onto the screen. It has nothing to do with the plot, it has no basis in logic from either a movie-universe or external narrative perspective, and it just fattens up the movie with crap when you could be delivering well-written dialogue scenes to round out the characters or making the final fight scene (which was a BIG let-down in Iron Man, Iron Man 2, AND Dark Knight) actually worthy of the movie that leads up to it.
June 23, 2012, 10:46 p.m. CST
What doesn't work in a CB movie is a hammy, campy character.
June 23, 2012, 10:52 p.m. CST
the lack of Terrence Howard. I really can't stand the guy, but without him, IM2 lacked a soul.
June 23, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST
by jesus 2099
he is perfection.
June 23, 2012, 11:01 p.m. CST
by Christian Sylvain
Iron Man 2 - A summer blockbuster about a guy trying to fix his pacemaker. Thor - Fantasy film about Gods that has the title character mortal and useless for 2/3 of the flick. Captain America - WWII action film with battles only shown in montages. The Avengers - A good ensemble film constructed around a run of the mil story. The worst thing about these films is that they're not even bad. Just disappointing because of the potential they had to be great (less of a complaint with The Avengers).
June 23, 2012, 11:29 p.m. CST
"Favreau’s strengths still show through. The man knows how to cast a picture." What about Terrence Howard????
by Angry Mike
June 23, 2012, 11:43 p.m. CST
Which is why people loved it. IM2 was a mess partly b/c of the forced presence of Fury & Widow. All of which is forgiven by how great Avengers is. IM2 was a sacrificial fly for Avengers. And so was Cap 1 a little bit.
June 23, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST
June 23, 2012, 11:58 p.m. CST
I liked the suitcase armor, Black Widow's hallway fight, John Slattery as Howard Stark, but in the end the story wasn't that great. There was too much time setting up the Avengers, which I guess did pay off. Hopefully now they can work on making Iron Man 3 completely standalone.
June 24, 2012, 12:05 a.m. CST
Love some Pepper.
June 24, 2012, 12:06 a.m. CST
There's some great stuff in the deleted scenes that shows Tony is going through the stages of a drinking problem.
June 24, 2012, 12:10 a.m. CST
I thought the whole film was one big misfire. Bad writing, pacing, acting, plot, dialogue, the whole bit. Lousy and disappointing, and worst of all, boring. I loved IM1. It's true that the final battle was a bit of a letdown, but at least they'd built up the emotional backstory that gave the confrontation its weight. IM2's resolution felt empty and stupid, like the whole film. I like Cheadle and Rockwell and even Rourke, but felt they were wrong for the part, pointless, and absurd, respectively. Howard and Hurt had enormously better chemistry and screen presence in the first one, IMO. Hope they can get their acts together with IM3. They did just fine with it in Avengers - the Stark sequences fit like a comfy old shoe - but time will tell. Kingsley and Pearce sound like a fantastic combo to watch, so long as the script isn't horrible as it was in IM2.
June 24, 2012, 12:19 a.m. CST
June 24, 2012, 12:22 a.m. CST
It never reaches the heights of the first film, but it is more consistent throughout (including a much more satisfying end battle compared to the weak Iron Monger fight in the first film with the awful dialogue). And, of course, the completely incorrect complaint that the film was all Avengers setup when everything in the film was self contained within the Iron Man movies, with only one scene (the SHIELD debriefing at the end) and one other line (the "super secret boy band" quip) being there solely as an Avengers reference. Sure, many elements doubled as an Avengers tie-in, but they served the IM2 story first. The only real major flaw of the whole movie is the lack of Whiplash meeting Tony in person and instead regulating him to a behind-the-scenes force. The prison scene between them was the highlight of the movie and really deserved one more face-to-face, non-suited, confrontation towards the end to make it fully satisfying.
June 24, 2012, 12:45 a.m. CST
by Queefer Sutherland
I got a little tired of Tony Stark feeling sorry for himself in IM2. I realize the character is a narcissist, but where was the heroism? Bigger spectacle, much less heart. There's a reason I saw IM in the theaters three times and IM2 only once. There's a reason I still don't have IM2 on DVD.
June 24, 2012, 12:45 a.m. CST
seriously I don't why some people hate it I mean yes it did have sort of the same plot as the first, someone trying to steal his idea and whatnot, but come on that's almost half of Tony's life anyway. We get to see fricking War Machine for goodness sakes!! and more importantly it continued the buildup of The Avengers(Greatedt movie ever!!) so stop with all the hate for IM2
June 24, 2012, 12:46 a.m. CST
Yeah, this analogy needs to die already.
June 24, 2012, 12:56 a.m. CST
by space doughnut
No terence howard. Stark peeing in his suit. Stark bursting a water-melon. War Machine did not live up to expectations. The HORROR!
June 24, 2012, 1:18 a.m. CST
by Tigger Tales
yeah, I hate THE EDGE OF REASON too... and mike-el did the guess for tomorrow better.
June 24, 2012, 1:19 a.m. CST
by Queefer Sutherland
I'm not hating on IM2. I'm merely criticizing it. I doubt that you're counting me as a "hater" but if you are, I would say you need to wrap your dick in barbed wire and fuck your mother. If you're not talking to me, I would still suggest you ream out your mom with barbed wire and accept the fact that some people don't think the sequel measures up to the original. Does that ruin the movie for you, diaper boy? Poor little thang.
June 24, 2012, 1:21 a.m. CST
by Tigger Tales
Quentin doing the five point palm exploding heart technique to David Carrdadine using Uma's foot
June 24, 2012, 1:25 a.m. CST
..is just misunderstood...
June 24, 2012, 1:26 a.m. CST
June 24, 2012, 1:33 a.m. CST
by Queefer Sutherland
Yeah, the dumb bastards. I wish I could pound all the angry people into spongy, bloody pulp.
June 24, 2012, 1:51 a.m. CST
so about 5 minutes of the movie is SICK AS FUCK!! the rest is just kinda...meh.
June 24, 2012, 1:53 a.m. CST
by Balkin Flabgurter
iron man two was just a setup for tony to develop the new energy source to save his life and be able to compete with interdimensional baddies in avengers, jesus did anybody pay attention????? and where is captain america in this convo? they were both thrown in the lava pit for avengers anyway.
June 24, 2012, 2:07 a.m. CST
by Balkin Flabgurter
June 24, 2012, 3:26 a.m. CST
never understood the hate... especially the idea it's just an advert for the avengers.
June 24, 2012, 4 a.m. CST
Having Stark come out as Iron Man was an unfortunate decision, because it forced the sequel into dealing with Iron Man as a celebrity instead of an action hero. I thought the FF movie showed that superheroes with publicists were a bad idea.
June 24, 2012, 4:04 a.m. CST
...are all great actors, but in IM1 & IM2 their characters were just different versions of Tony Stark and it looks to me like we are getting more of the same in IM3
June 24, 2012, 4:33 a.m. CST
IM2 tried to stage its scenes too much. You knew a fight scene was coming because it was a cool location for one.
Example being the race track. There was no reason for Stark to be driving in a race and no way the bad guy would predict that. Just seemed like they thought it'd be a cool setting for a fight. The fight at the party was equally bad. When War Machine turned up I knew everyone would evacuate the party except the DJ so he could play some "cool" music. It's just so forced. Also the recasting was terrible. I had no idea this new guy was supposed to be Rhodes until they said his name - obviously he looks completely different but has a different personality too. If you're going to recast so drastically, at least let us know who they're supposed to be, especially for people who have never read the comics and don't know the importance of the supporting cast.
June 24, 2012, 5:40 a.m. CST
The Suitcase. War Machine. Scarlett's ass in that dress as she's fetching Mr.Stark's watch. Didn't mind Rockwell as a second rate "Anthony" Stark. I've always wondered though, is Stark's b-day party as close as they're going to get to showing his alcoholism or if it's going to be the undercurrent of IM3?
June 24, 2012, 6:59 a.m. CST
This is how youdo a comic book movie, if of a more lighthearted nature then the Nolan's Batman type movies. And by the way, i can't understand the venom against IRON MAN 2. Risking irony, i do think the ladies and gents doth protested too much.
June 24, 2012, 7:01 a.m. CST
Which would mean about almost everything in that movie. I don't seee much difference between the first and the second, to tell you the truth. But what do i know, right?
June 24, 2012, 7:22 a.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
June 24, 2012, 7:41 a.m. CST
I loved the Disney-esque "World of Imagination" feel and look to it. It was a bit odd seeing like the ninth person play Howard Stark, but loved that era of futurism and thought they captured it magnificently.
June 24, 2012, 7:52 a.m. CST
by Mr Nicholas
June 24, 2012, 7:56 a.m. CST
I don't agree that IM2 was just setup for Avengers, but it was necessary for Marvel to put out from a marketing standpoint
by Rebel Scumb
They had the surprise hits with Iron Man and to a lesser extent Incredible Hulk. They knew they could build their Avengers plan, and had Thor and Capt in the most basic phases of planning, but they weren't going to be ready until 2011. And MUCH harder sells to modern audiences. Iron Man and hulk came out in 2008, if they had waited until 2011 for another Marvel/Avengers release, and it was questionable ones like Thor and Captain America (which I think both turned out quite good) with today's modern audiences and short attention spans, would likely have already forgotton Iron Man, or failed to see that these movies were connected. By getting Iron Man2 out for 2010 they kept the momentum going with their most popular and iconic character for that line up, so by the time Thor came out, people were excited for it. So from an ultra cynical hollywood marketing standpoint, Iron Man2 was absolutely the right move for Marvel to make. I happen to think it's damn enjoyable to watch too.
June 24, 2012, 8:02 a.m. CST
After THE AVENGERS, Marvel is in a roll. And i truly enjoyed THE AVENGERS. Josh Wheadon delivers once again. Two months ago if anybody told me i would enjoy more a Marvel supergero movie over Prometheus, i wouldn't had believed in the slightest. Funny how things turn out.
June 24, 2012, 8:57 a.m. CST
nothing to see here
June 24, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST
June 24, 2012, 9:05 a.m. CST
When I went to see the first Iron Man I came out afterwards and walked right by my 1 week old new car because someone had rammed into the side and left a wedge so deep I didn't even recognize it. It's still there, it's F'd up my cars looks nearly from day one and I still get mad every time I look at it. Oh, and Iron Man 2 sucked. Stark acted so douchy he became unsympathetic as the hero. Stoopid shit dancing girls and Whiplash in armor? He could have worn a suit of some kind, but not armor. The whole movie was flat.
June 24, 2012, 9:06 a.m. CST
....nothing is gonna be a 'stand alone' movie any more, and I am super pleased with what marvel/disney has done. IM 2 was a great tony stark heavy issue of the marvel movie world, alot of set up for later things, we get this in comic arc's we will be getting it in the movie arcs.
June 24, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST
The best comic book movie is Sin City, sorry Marvel fanboys. Iron Man sucks just like the other ones. Now a Silver Surfer movie, that could kill.
June 24, 2012, 9:29 a.m. CST
then you should all blow the cast of rock star, because they suck too... hold on that didn't make sense.
June 24, 2012, 9:35 a.m. CST
ScarJo went from being curvy hottest woman on the planet to buff(-ish) still-hot-but-not-extraordinarily-so woman. I don't know what training regimen she went on, but Christine Hendricks must be kept miles away from it at all times. Otherwise, I still enjoy the movie, although I agree with many of the criticisms. The top of my list is the Cheadle re-cast - never felt remotely right. Wish they'd brought Howard back for IM3, kind like the did with Rosanne's oldest daughter.
June 24, 2012, 9:41 a.m. CST
But it's wasn't great either.
June 24, 2012, 10:01 a.m. CST
grammaton cleric binks Have you seen him lately? The last few pics of him I seen he has gained most if not all back.
June 24, 2012, 10:25 a.m. CST
June 24, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST
The first Iron Man is probably my favourite of the pre-Avengers Marvel films but the ending could have been better. It suffered from the same '2 big blurry CG things fighting' climax that both The Incredible Hulk and Transformers had at around the same time. I didn't enjoy Iron Man 2 on the first viewing but it improved on a second viewing, think it's main problem was it didn't really add anything new to the story. As previous posters have said, he already revealed his identity at the end of the first one so that automatically takes away the tension of someone finding out (like with Batman or Spider-man). Also IM2 drags a bit in places and the end battle isn't great...but it's by no means a terrible film. Plenty of action and humour and Micky Rourke's always interesting, even if you just end up staring at his rubber face . P.S. apologies for the previous post, I hit return while editing the subject title. Weak.
June 24, 2012, 10:58 a.m. CST
you repeat view a lot of anal rapings?
June 24, 2012, 11:02 a.m. CST
(ok, maybe not IH) IM2 is the one that really benefits from it the most. Looking forward to having my own Marvel Marathon at home.
June 24, 2012, 11:04 a.m. CST
by Crimson Dynamo
It has this rushed, clipped tone to it, which I think is him improvising instead of reading lines, not really sure. And Downey and Terrence Howard had good chemistry as friends, which was missing with him and Cheadle
June 24, 2012, 11:20 a.m. CST
The captions hardly have ANYTHING to do with the picture posted. It's getting old.
June 24, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST
by Lone Fox
Was disappointed initially, but then I'd just watched Kick-Ass, and standard superhero fare was going to be a let down any which way after that for a while. My only issues with it were the sidelining of 2 promising story arcs: his 'infection' caused by his chest piece, and his drinking, which turned out to be just a one off binge. They could've opened up the sequels (including The Avengers) with these subplots, but they were both solved by the films end. But otherwise, a pretty good sequel.
June 24, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST
In that respect, IM2 was much better. In the first Iron Man, they spent all this time with Stark making mistakes and learning from them, building that amazing suit. Then the bad guy jumps into a suit that has NEVER even been tested and he flies it like he's been doing it for years! And exactly how do you successfully build a robot without a working power source, anyway? As silly as the villain in IM2 was, he made a little more sense.
June 24, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST
This isn't an opinion - it's just a fact. http://batstud.blogspot.com/
June 24, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST
The newest Hulk movie, however, i couldn't give a fuck. If there is one Marvel movie that can be said to be bad, that's it.
June 24, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST
When Terrence Howard says "How was the FUN VEE?" in his whiny, girly-man voice, my ears want to vomit.
June 24, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
June 24, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST
by Tom Fremgen
June 24, 2012, 3:03 p.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
. . . it just seemed forgettable. And I couldn't stand the 2 scenes where all of a sudden Favreau was providing goofy, unfunny comic relief. Wasn't horrible, but still not the step up from the awesome first I expected . . .
June 24, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
June 24, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST
He looks EXACTLY like Rhodey!! One more recast can't hurt if they finally get it right!
June 24, 2012, 4:55 p.m. CST
Oh, and about that image....TOO SOON
June 24, 2012, 6:22 p.m. CST
yes Rourke was pretty undersued but I basically take IM2 as a "Ordinary day at Stark Industries". It's a interesting little side plot of a movie.
June 24, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST
I was very excited for those two hours to be over. I'll take Cowboys & Aliens any day over that.
June 24, 2012, 9:10 p.m. CST
Fucking HATE IM2. One of the worst superhero movies ever made and easily the worst of all the Marvel films. They're lucky they didn't sink the entire Marvel franchise with that POS!
June 24, 2012, 9:11 p.m. CST
June 24, 2012, 9:16 p.m. CST
Having Black on board now and no need to build up the Avengers for no reason, it will be better.
June 24, 2012, 10:39 p.m. CST
from the Plane (why?) makes no sense but I love the scene anyway and I think about it anytime I hear "Shoot to Thrill". RDJ just looks like he's having a blast once he gets to the Stark Expo. 7/ 10 from me.
June 25, 2012, 12:18 a.m. CST
June 25, 2012, 1:45 a.m. CST
It wasn't supposed to be funny, it was supposed to be SAD. He thought he was DYING, and didn't give a crap anymore.
June 25, 2012, 3:23 a.m. CST
I hated TH in the 1st viewing of IM2, but he later grew on me. I thought Don Cheadle was a better casting but the change in the sequel was jarring. So why the change? hmmm.
June 25, 2012, 4:10 a.m. CST
by my liege
Purely heresay, but I heard a. he wanted more money and Marvel are cheap gits and b. he was cast before Favreau was brought on board so wasn't his choice.
June 25, 2012, 5:41 a.m. CST
The reason the Hulk was so cool in the Avengers is because that is what people want to see the Hulk do. Bash stuff. Think we've seen enough of the superhero who's trying to remove his 'curse'. Now we just want to see the Hulk destroy stuff. Probably why the animation Planet Hulk was such a good movie. No introduction, no time spent on backstory, just release the Hulk.
June 25, 2012, 6:55 a.m. CST
It just had the bad luck to follow IM 1, which was not only a great Marvel movie, but a great movie period.
June 25, 2012, 7:01 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
June 25, 2012, 7:08 a.m. CST
Always wondered. Maybe Marvel will loosen their wallets after Avengers made 1.5 Billion+ dollars. Doubt it.
June 25, 2012, 7:26 a.m. CST
I'm an old man but a child at heart and IM2 was fimly stuck between those worlds. It sure wasn't confident of the movie it needed to be.
June 25, 2012, 7:27 a.m. CST
June 25, 2012, 8:09 a.m. CST
But what do I know...Ilked Judge Dredd 1995.
June 25, 2012, 8:49 a.m. CST
Another Terrance Howard tidbit..ironically, he was the highest paid star for IM because he was coming off a recent Oscar nomination for Hustle & Flow.
Downey Jr was still considered an insurance risk. Bridges and Paltrow weren't considered big ticket draws.....ahh, what a few years difference makes.
June 25, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST
it did for me anyways.
June 25, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST
Jeez, I hope Quint knows the guy. Great cinematographer, no question. But..."Matty"?
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