The Wachowski's CARNIVORE and George Romero'
Hey folks, Harry here with an interesting rumor about the wacky world of Wachowski's. Yup, before MATRIX they had a lot of scripts that were not headed very many places... but now that those scripts can be hyped in trailers as "FROM THE CREATORS OF THE MATRIX" ...well, you know how it goes. Now the good news is... these scripts don't necessarily suck. In fact, I love their PLASTIC MAN script... it rocked pretty hard and would love love LOVE to see Dreamworks make it happen. We'll have to wait and see... but this one... well it could be hyped as, "From the creators of THE MATRIX and DAWN OF THE DEAD..." That's a bit way too cool...
VAULT OF HORROR
Now that they have experienced THE MATRIX, Trimark Pictures is dusting off an old script by Larry & Andy Wachowski called CARNIVORE. Written long before the Chicago brothers made their first sale (ASSASSINS), the script is a surreal gothic fairy tale set in a boarding house where wealthy people disappear under mysterious circumstances. Trimark is in negotiations with DAWN OF THE DEAD director George Romero to helm the film. Makes you wonder how many other scripts the brothers have collecting dust in producer's vaults.
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April 13, 2000, 4:52 a.m. CST
by Ratpack Slim
Oy! I read it online last week (for the very reason that it had the Wachowski name on it) and thought it BIT!!! Worst revised origin I've ever heard! But hopefully the other script'll be better. I did like Bound, and of course, Matrix...but PLASTIC MAN was TERRIBLE...in my humble opinion.
April 13, 2000, 4:57 a.m. CST
Oh yes - Big Budget Romero! I'll have a bit..!
April 13, 2000, 5:20 a.m. CST
This news has been floating around for some time... at least 6 or so months, and nothing new has been said about it since. George Romero has never had any luck working with big studios, so I fear this will go in the same direction. BEFORE I WAKE, THE MUMMY, WAR OF THE WORLDS, BLACK MARIAH, UNHOLY FIRE, TURN OF THE SCREW, RESIDENT EVIL: those title and others are examples of films that Romero's has done lots of pre-production work on over the past 10 years, only to have them pulled from under him at the last minute. BEFORE I WAKE came the closest, and even THE DARK HALF ran out of money when Orion died, and Romero had to salvage the film with what he had in the can. I expect CARNIVORE will go this route, as well. I HOPE it doesn't, but I don't see Romero even wanting to go back to studio work after he had such a free reign making BRUISER, his first indie since the underrated DAY OF THE DEAD. As for BRUISER, it now seems to be damned near impossible to learn even the smallest bit of info on it. When's it coming out? Has it gotten US distribution? Does anyone know? Everything that IS known about the film can be found at my lovely site, http://bruiser.8m.com but I must have more info. Thanks. Hey- and what's going on with a 4th DEAD film. As recently as '98, Romero was writing the screenplay and talking to Richard Rubinstein about securing financing. I suppose the folks who funded BRUISER (Le Studio Canal+) may be waiting to see how it fares before funding DEAD IV. Who knows... And Harry: why not ONE mention of BRUISER since that script review years ago?
April 13, 2000, 5:53 a.m. CST
by Emerald Eyes
I'm never completely sold on Harry's tastes, but I have to go with the big man on this one. The Wachowski's PLASTIC MAN is a gem of a script (Larry Wilson's isn't too shabby either) and it astounds me why this movie hasn't been made yet. I suspect it has something to do with the professional, unbiased, and well-informed assessments of top-notch studio executives like Ratpack Slim clearly is.
April 13, 2000, 6:20 a.m. CST
That's how much I admire them. So I trust that this "Carnivore" thing is going to be pretty good. By the way, I'm not sure I could like ANY "Plastic Man" script. Unless of course it was directed by the Wachowskis. Crap, I'm starting to sound like Dirtfish with Johnny Depp!
April 13, 2000, 6:21 a.m. CST
Hey all you Romero afflictionados out there. All the newest stuff on the Bruiser movie can be found on www.bruiserthemovie.com. I looks great. I really hope this movie turns out well, so that George won't have to go through so much trouble again to get his next feature made. I mean, come on, such a talented filmmaker who has been snubbed from four (or more) features in the last secen years? You have to be kidding. That never again, you fucking suits, let the man do his thing...
April 13, 2000, 6:34 a.m. CST
VEERS: Unfortunately, DAY is seen as the weakest of the DEAD films by many horror fans. Some just don't get it, it seems. That said, I think it's a fantastic, intense film that ranks as one of the greatest horror films ever. I prefer DAWN and, to a degree, NIGHT, but DAY is quite a film. Like you, I prefer the finished film to the original, somewhat convoluted script. Now, some of the ideas in that script are brilliant, and I hope they find their way into a potential DEAD IV, but I think the film as it stands is far more refined and far less chaotic than the original screenplay. As for BRUISER: all I know is that it screened at the American Film Market in late February and is currently in "negotiations" for a US release.
April 13, 2000, 6:57 a.m. CST
I mean, I absolutely LOVED the Matrix, don't get me wrong, but...I thought Bound was just a little more than overrated. In fact I thought the first hour of it absolutely SUCKED, and as anyone who knows me can tell you I am quite a big fan of lesbians to begin with. ASSASSINS? The first three letters of the title sum up the movie quite nicely, in my opinion. Now they're trying to sell their old scripts, and I can't say I blame them, but...opinion of them...dropping...
April 13, 2000, 9:03 a.m. CST
There was a review in Variety several weeks ago that was fairly mixed. They liked the concept, but felt that the film ultimately sputtered to its conclusion.
April 13, 2000, 10:51 a.m. CST
Not only a cool title, the movie itself actually sounds pretty fucking cool. Go to www.bruiserthemovie.com and read the synopsis! Me wanna see, rite now! GG
April 13, 2000, 11:54 a.m. CST
Poor VEERS, at least he tries his best. Or so I hope.
April 13, 2000, 1:09 p.m. CST
Hmmm, I've never considered Day Of The Dead anything but a terrible way to round out the Living Dead trilogy. And I've never thought of it as "intelligent"; there's all that screaming to contend with, the unsympathetic characters, the horrible acting, and the weak, meandering script. I did like some elements of it (the FX were great, Bub and Logan were terrific too), but there's not much to recoomend it. While the socio-political messages in the other two films were being transmitted loud and clear, there really didn't seem to be much of that in Day; the attempts at being a "serious" horor film seemed very half-hearted. And I know that the original script had more of a slant on using the dead as weapons, and that script didn't sound promising either. But I am a huge fan of the series as a whole; if you want the most intelligent horror film ever made, it's Dawn Of The Dead, hands down. But I just don't know if there's any juice left in the series. What more could possibly be said in a world about the walking dead? The films worked best when they had a great allegorical character to them, when it wasn't plot-driven, when it was more about the characters and how they reacted to the epidemic. Day seemed more about the zombies, and had NO chracters I liked (other than Bub and Logan, of course). But I'm always willing to see what Romero can do with a fourth installment (what'll it be called though? Dusk of the Dead?).
April 13, 2000, 2:44 p.m. CST
by fried samurai
Im looking foward to anything mr. romero does.Its been to long since weve seen a good ole zombie munching flick.Even though i loved dellamorte dellamore.
April 13, 2000, 3:11 p.m. CST
This is very old news...it was on hsx.com when it went ipo. Also, has anyone tried 4filmmakers.com? It kicks ass like nothing has kicked ass before. It's like imdb for development people! Have I said hoe much it rocks?
April 13, 2000, 3:59 p.m. CST
Should I assume from Harry's comment above that DreamWorks has the rights to Plastic Man? or was that just wishful thinking? God knows, they could use a hit right now.
April 13, 2000, 4:21 p.m. CST
While the Matrix made me weep like a girl (that is a good thing), this idea sounds as if the brothers W have just reworked the idea from the wonderful Jeunet & Caro film - Delicatessen. Check it out if you have access to a good video store.
April 13, 2000, 4:49 p.m. CST
by t. mifune
These pathetic excuses for writers and directors don't have an original thought in their head. Everything in that utter piece of shit The Matrix has been done way better in many, many other films. Not a single shot has any meaning other than, "It looks cool". Best editing...no way. I pity that George Romero, a true visionary, has to pander to these children to get a movie made.
April 13, 2000, 5 p.m. CST
Whether you liked it or not don't blame it on the W brothers. Rumor had it Stallone didn't like the fact that his character wasn't 'Nice' enough and had the whole thing re-worked. In fact, if I recall right, the Wachowski's said themselves sometime after the MATRIX was in the can (but before it was actually released) that, if it were up to them, their next movie would be ASSASSINS done the right way.
April 13, 2000, 5:45 p.m. CST
UnOriginal. HUh, that's funny. I took you seriously gor a secons seeing as how everyother movie is based on a book, play, or just a plain old remake of an older movie. Unoriginal. We live in the MOST unoriginal society to ever grace the face of Earth. Unoriginal...ha,ha,ha. later
April 13, 2000, 5:51 p.m. CST
by The Thinker
Hey, I also read the Plastic Man script. I thought it was okay. Nothing near as original as The Matrix. It's not really a superhero story, more like a standard thriller. Although I would love to see this made. The special effects sequences would be incredible as the main character stretches like Mr. Fantastic all over the place. The Thinker
April 13, 2000, 6:09 p.m. CST
Since they pretty much have to stick to the formula for the title, it is probably the best you can get I guess. Since I'm so lazy, could someone give us a general idea about what "Bruiser" is all about HERE? Since it has already apparently screened somewhere, it shouldn't be too hard right. I agree with the "poor George" comments above...Craven, Carpenter, all these guys get kudos from everyone, while George breaks ground like no one else has done before or since and continues to STRUGGLE to get good work....
April 13, 2000, 6:14 p.m. CST
....acting, writing, directing. All are 'worse' than the first two. Only improvement is in FX. Wonder what Savini and his crew could do today, 15+ years later? Even the characters of Logan and Bub, while entertaining, do not deliver. Can't SOMEONE kick down 10 mil. to get a 4th dead movie made? Wes Craven, help out a friend in need...produce this movie! Even the critical establishment acknowledges Dawn as a masterpiece! Would be an IMHO, but I am DOOM!
April 13, 2000, 7:47 p.m. CST
I haven't read their script, but if it's good (or anyone else's) then I'd love to see a movie. Plastic Man is the perfect character to do a movie on. A small-time thief with the heart of a comedian, turns into a wisecracking crimefighter who can stretch in ways that Reed Richards would envy. That just calls out to be made. And (although he's been mentioned for just about any other superhero that he would not fit the part of) the perfect choice for this movie is Bruce Cambell! Or, if he's not available, you could fall back to Jim Carrey or even Jason Lee (Can *all* of Plastic Man's parts stretch?)
April 13, 2000, 9:11 p.m. CST
I don't remember where I read this (it may even have been on AICN!), but Romero indicated that the fourth instalment of the Dead series would take place at a time when humans have begun to multiply again and live decadently in these high-rise condos. meanwhile, the zombies are fenced of outside, and are treated like the homeless, ehich would be the allegory he'd be suggesting. When I first read this, it didn't sound very promising and now that I think about it, it still doesn't. Like I said, I don't think there's much juice left in the series, if they're going to do it the traditional way. If you've read some of the stories in the anthologies Book of the Dead and Still Dead, you'd see there are some really cool and ingnious ways to tell tales of a living dead world (Lansdale's absolutely terrific On The Far Side Of The Cadillac Desert With Dead Folks springs immediately to mind, as do This Year's Class Picture, Eat Me, Bodies And Heads and Calcutta, Prince Of Nerves.)
April 14, 2000, 9:07 a.m. CST
Does anyone know where I could find the plastic man script? I have been looking for it for months to no avail. If anyone could point me in the right direction, itould be greatly appreciated. Thanks Magnum
April 14, 2000, 9:34 a.m. CST
by t. mifune
The scirpt - there was no script. I realize it's hard to be original, but a lot of filmmakers manage to put their own spin on things. The Wachoswki's have no style. It was really sad, after a film as good as Bound to see these geeks sell their souls to Joel Silver for box office gold. They were the Michael Bay of last year. The acting - it was all wooden. Initially I forgave Keanu because the only role he's managed to fit in was in the River's Edge. But the second time (yes, I watched it again because I second guessed my disgust) it was Hugo Weaving and Laurence Fishburne that were the worst. So everyone in the future wears leather and listens to electronica music. Why? Because it's cool for 1999. This movie will date fast. That cheesy effect where characters freeze in mid-air. Thanks, saw that on a Gap commercial. And why did they do it? Because it looked cool. This entire script was written around the effects. Too many set pieces. Hey, we can do kung fu, now let's have a twenty minute fight that will bore everyone and won't even come close to the REAL kung fu masters. They could fight for real, Keanu had to rely on special effects. The cheesiest "is he dead" ending since Far and Away. Am I the only one who laughed at this? While we don't care a rat's ass about the characters, I guess the only reason to watch is to see how cool it is when machine guns blast away at pieces of concrete. Why was it in slow motion? The black woman who played the prophet. Why did she live in the projects? Was that an hommage to Whoopi Goldberg from Ghost? When the group starts to get killed off by their own man, he just happens to kill the least important characters first. During the end fight, Hugo Weaving suddenly forgets all his powers. How convenient for Keanu. The cheesy deja vu scene? Nuff said. When Fishburne is captured, Hugo sends in a bunch of cops to beat him to the ground. This is obviously supposed to draw comparisons to Rodney King. Why? Was Hugo Weaving a racist? If you as the directors, they'll probably say, "The shot looked cool". It was filmed like a rock video. There was no consistency in the cinematography. So the Academy thinks that was a better piece of editing than films like Magnolia and Eyes Wide Shut. And they also though Kevin Costner was a better director than Martin Scorsese! I guess all the fans of this movie haven't seen the sources it is plagiarizing. This was the biggest bastardization since Reservoir Dogs. Maybe once you kids see a few more films you'll realize you've been had. However, I fear that The Matrix was probably the most influential film last year and we'll see a lot more films like it in the near future. Compare a film like the Matrix with anything that George Romero has done. Despite some bad effects, Romero's films don't date, and with the case of Dawn of the Dead, they become more resonant. Grow up Wachowskis, turn off MTV and pick up a book.
April 14, 2000, 12:36 p.m. CST
"it was Hugo Weaving and Laurence Fishburne that were the worst" That line alone proves your an idiot.
April 14, 2000, 3:15 p.m. CST
by Jimmi Tomorrow
I read the Plastic Man script and vehemiently dissagree with anyone who states they think it's a masterpiece. I personally believe it was crap, not at all in line with the comic character's personality. The ecological fiend for a villian was horrible as were the two security gaurds parts. Maybe it could work if you got the right actors. Jim Carrey is ths only forseeable Plastic Man but seeing how he did the Mask this doesn't seem to work. Plastic Man was not the doo-gooder they write him to be here, he was a felon for love of god, a felon. I think- I KNOW the wharchowskis could have done better than what they cranked out here.... maybe get Alex Ford and J Ellison..... just what's rattling in my brain. -JSC
April 14, 2000, 6:13 p.m. CST
by t. mifune
What in the world was good about Hugo Weaving and Laurence Fishburne? And don't say, "They were cool" Beavis.
April 14, 2000, 9:59 p.m. CST
Who the hell are you guys to tell us what we should enjoy when it comes to movies! "Read a book"? let me ask you who the hell wants a movie to be art above it being entertaining?!?!?!?!? If you do go to a museum! What it comes down to is that The Matrix was one of the most exillerating experiences ever put onto celluloid! So what if it will outdate! It won't outdate for me because I will remember how awsome I found it when I first saw it! As I was saying classic films like Shawshank Redemption sure they have poiniancy and great acting and great directing and writing etc but they what it still comes down to is they are a damn fine piece of ENTERTAINMENT. Just because films like The Matrix choose style over content doesn't make them any lesser a piece of ENTERTAINMENT! Movies on the main aren't there for you to read into and discover a meaning that only YOU can see! They are there to ENTERTAIN you assholes! You want a film that conveys to you that the makers "read books", go read a f***ing book! You want art? Go to a gallery! You want to be entertained? Go to your nearest fleapit, grab some popcorn and enjoy! Sure, I'm not saying meaningful movies aren't good. I LOVE meaningful movies, but they aren't the only type of movie out there! OPEN YOUR F***ING MIND DAMMITT! Enjoy some eyecandy! So what if the gap adverts got there first! The Matrix isn't some sad bastards dancing to some shit corny tune while acting like there is no-one better looking on the planet than them (well ,maybe some of you will think that is the way it is, but I think it's the opposite). So what if the performances weren't up there with Raging Bull and Taxi Driver! THIS ISN'T THE KIND OF FILM THAT NEEDS TO RELY ON GOOD PERFORMANCES! It's a film that is meant to be a rollercoaster ride. It's supposed to get the adreneline going! It's supposed to excite! Why the hell were you getting so irate because you didn't like a film that everyone else did! That doesn't mean that the film is crap, it just means that you didn't like it! As for being sheep, I think you'll find that 99% of people who say they liked it, actually DID like it! The other one percent is not the kind of movie goer whose opinion would be valued anyway! Do yourselves a favour guys and get a grip - it's just ENTERTAINMENT!
April 15, 2000, 4:12 p.m. CST
it was like watching digitally enhanced paint dry. ***YAWN*** I keep thinking about renting it on DVD to see how "special" that version is, but I'd rather spend my money on porn.
April 15, 2000, 11:16 p.m. CST
Go to this site: http://homes.acmecity.com/thematrix/neo/228/ and read the section called "Wake Up And Realize The Truth, `The Matrix' Discussed In Depth".
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