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AICN COMICS REVIEWS: BEFORE WATCHMEN: THE COMEDIAN! REED GUNTHER! ULTIMATE X-MEN! WARLORD OF MARS! INCORRUPTIBLE! & MORE!!!

| Issue #7 | Release Date: 6/13/12 | Vol.#11 |
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Advance Review: BEFORE WATCHMEN: THE COMEDIAN #1
WARLORD OF MARS #18
ULTIMATE COMICS X-MEN #13
LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT #2
REED GUNTHER #10
BATMAN #10
INCORRUPTIBLE #30 (final issue)
DEATHSTROKE #10
SPIDER-MEN #1
CONAN THE BARBARIAN #5
Advance Review: AVEENGERS VS X-MEN #6
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Advence Review: In stores today!BEFORE WATCHMEN: THE COMEDIAN #1
Writer: Brian AzzarelloArtist: JG Jones
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Optimous Douche
WATCHMEN was more than a deconstruction of capes; it also served as an indictment of society. As the clock wound down to doomsday in the comic world it was representational of the fear and terror we all felt during the waning days of the Cold War. It was a spectacular piece because we believed capes could exist thanks to all of the grounded in reality sociological elements that served as a backdrop: if not for Watergate, Nixon’s megalomania could have easily driven him to repeal terms of office. Vietnam would have been a relative cake walk if we sent in capes instead of children. In our ultra-politically correct and overly litigious society, legislation like the Keene Act is far more believable than any tolerance of vigilantism.
While last week’s SILK SPECTRE went balls deep into the characterization of Laurie Jupiter and her mommy/daddy issues, THE COMEDIAN goes just the tip with Eddie Blake the man, while focusing more on the dirty deeds he performed to help keep America’s squeaky clean façade during the time of Camelot.
I’ve always been enamored with the Kennedys, long holding to the belief that the assassination of JFK sent the country into a tailspin of malaise and disillusionment that still grows exponentially with each passing year. Obama may have told us to hope, but that’s a mere waft of the actual mission Kennedy set before us as a nation to dream bigger than ourselves. Our faith in god, country and possibly humanity was splattered across Jackie O’s pretty pill box hat that fateful day in 1963. Azzarello must feel the same, because this beginning of the end for the Kennedys is the catalyst that leads us to the alcoholic, cynical, son-of-a-bitch Comedian that greets us on page one of WATCHMEN.
Taking a page from Life Magazine, the book opens with Eddie Blake enjoying the famous Kennedy touch football games. Blake is one of the fold: a brother from another mother to be sure, but his love of women, alcohol and power earns more respect from JFK than the man had for Ted and Robert combined. This chumminess between the two sets Blake in a very different light than we saw in WATCHMEN. Blake was an antagonist in WATCHMEN, the fulcrum of the dystopian undertones in the book. Yes, Blake was a bastard during WWII with all the rape and killing and what not, but he wasn’t a cynic.
Yet…
We all knew that Blake was the government’s go-to guy for covert ops, so it makes sense he would have a relationship with Kennedy. The fact Azzarello made it an honest-to-God friendship was a nice twist, but what truly kept me glued to the page was Blake’s time spent with Jackie O as she discusses Jack’s dalliances with a certain peroxide D-cup that will destroy this country. Everyone always thought Jackie knew where little Jack went at night, but the fact she put the hit on Marilyn – fucking delicious. There’s a moment between the Comedian and Marilyn’s corpse that speak more volumes about him as a man than every page combined in the original WATCHMEN.
All right, I don’t want to ruin too much of this thing. You have all the basics you need. Comedian, Kennedy, and yes, issue one ends on November 22, 1963.
JG Jones has been gone from the DC fold for too long and it’s a travesty. The way he brings history alive in this book from the real-life visages of the famous to the backgrounds to the cars--everything is simply 100% authentic. What he does with those faces from an emotional standpoint is simply poetic and gut-wrenching.
Some folks seem put off by Azzarrelo’s style of clever conversational word play. Personally, I love his work on books like SPACEMAN and WONDER WOMAN, but to each their own. I would caution any naysayers, though, to remember this is not just another comic on the shelf. The big Azz had to go for historical accuracy, so yes his style is there, but it is greatly tempered for the sake of realism and authenticity.
I was soft on MINUTEMEN for the reason I LOVE LOVE LOVE SILK SPECTRE and COMEDIAN. Give me the story of the characters I truly care about, not their parents (or the COMEDIAN eating a fucking pickle).
All I can say now is…
So, Mr. Nite Owl, how many licks does it take to get to the center of Laurie Jupiter? I can’t wait for the answer next week.
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WARLORD OF MARS #18
Writer: Arvid NelsonArtist: Edgar Salazar
Publisher: Dynamite Entertainment
Reviewer: Masked Man
For the record, I’ve never known much about John Carter--knew of him, sure, but with no movies (until now) or TV shows about his adventures, that meant I had to read a books Well, for whatever reason reading a book doesn’t come easy to me (not enough pictures I guess). With that said, I can’t compare the comic to the book, so let’s just talk the comic book!
The newest issue gets us closer to the finale of the second John Carter story--“Gods of Mars”. The first story, “Princess of Mars”, adapted by Nelson, was well done. I’d like to say the same here, but especially in this issue, things are a bit rushed. “Princess of Mars” got nine issues, and “Gods of Mars” appears to be only getting seven. So this issue is jammed with a huge sky battle, a ground invasion, some dungeon crawling, a romantic reunion, and a tearful cliffhanger. Any way you slice it, Nelson had a tough job keeping it all in one issue. I think more text boxes--real text boxes, not what has become the new thought bubbles--would have helped. The issue comes off as very jumpy, and it’s hard to appreciate one moment, because it lasts only a panel and the next page has a new one.
The story itself, giving credit to Edgar Rice Burroughs, is pretty damn cool. It’s easy to see why these books have endured. Unlike the first book, John isn’t so much a fish out of water, but more of a brute force for moral superiority. Just like with his literary stepson Flash Gordon, it’s his strong sense of right and wrong and compassion for others that gains him varied friends as he challenges the status quo of Mars. This story also has a thing to say about religion too, as he uncovers the Gods of Mars and pretty much has it out with them!
The artist, Edgar Salazar, has shown promise in the past with a good eye for detail and rendering. He does well with his figures, but they can get clunky sometimes. Unfortunately there appears to be no inker, which is my usual complaint with most Dynamite comics. Salazar’s pages appear to have been penciled with a mechanical pencil, since they comes off too thin and doodly. Previous artists Stephen Sadowski and Lui Antonio seemed to have time to ink their own pages, and boy does it make a difference. Salazar’s pencils would look much stronger with some good inking.
Overall this action-packed issue is the weakest link so far, and its score is lower than what I’m planning to give the whole story arc--2 out of 4.
ULTIMATE COMICS X-MEN #13
Writer: Brian WoodArt: Paco Medina & Reilly Brown
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: Henry Higgins is My Homeboy
The Terrorist Movement…
The new Ultimate universe is a strange and interesting place, if not always for the best. The new approach has been hit or miss—sadly, mostly miss. At least for me, the most interesting place has been what becomes of Kitty Pryde’s new X-Men team. The title returns to this story, and while it’s a good thing they returned to that, it tries to do too much, too fast.
Writing: (3/5) The title has gone to various places, leaving behind its opening storyline of the remaining X-Men becoming insurgents to protect the remaining mutant population. The title has been losing speed since then, going back and forth between Quicksilver, then Storm, then Jean. Wood returns to his original beats, which is a good decision. It’s the most engaging story, and shows off the few remaining X-Men in a unique direction. The team heading off to deal with the Nimrod army is an interesting development, and should manage to remain interesting. Johnny remaining behind to protect the children is also a good direction take it, leaving him open for other titles while also providing a possible reentry of him and his team later in the title.
Kitty gets a full opportunity to show off her abilities in here, and it shows off a surprising amount of skill and power on her part. It’s a well done scene, but ends abruptly, and doesn’t have any real resolution. The recruitment scene is likewise good for the most part, but peters out. Wood has a solid grasp on the team, and it he works best when giving the team some ambiguity (you’d be hard pressed to disagree with Johnny’s criticisms), but when it falters, it falters.
Art: (3/5) The various art crew is good throughout, but nothing spectacular. It actually does best in the early pages, giving the various characters room to move and clear distinction from one to another. The faces and body movements flow well, especially in the opening pages. Kitty discarding her robe also looks wonderful, in a conflicted way. It may just be me, but it’s more reminiscent of a supervillain reveal then a heroic one, which helps sell the ambiguity of her future actions.
Sometimes the art can falter, though, worst of all during Kitty’s council with the other X-Men. It becomes somewhat muddled, with many of the faces looking weird. It’s disappointing because when the book looks good, it looks good. Kitty’s action beat looks fantastic, and Garcia does solid coloring throughout, giving everything a bright, shining element.
Best Moment: Kitty losing the cloak. It looks fantastic, and could be my favorite moment in the run so far.
Worst Moment: The faces during the latter segments.
Overall: (3/5) While it’s nice that the book has returned to its best story, the book could use some improvement.
LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT #2
Writer: Jonathan LarsenArt: J.G. Jones
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: The Writing Rambler
I’ve mentioned here and there in some of my other reviews how I’ve fully embraced digital comics. Gone are the days of my desk being overrun with a pile of new books to read every Wednesday, and despite me missing the small joy of bagging and boarding my books to put them in a long box for safe keeping until somehow the 20 issues of X-FORCE #1 I still have in their poly bags from childhood (god, I was a stupid kid) ever become worth more than a stick of gum and I cash in on them, I must say it’s refreshing to have less clutter. It just works for me; I love having all of my books in one place so I can whip out an issue for reference in a huge nerd argument I’m having with a friend. It’s also nice to not have to worry every week if it will be the last time my wife puts up with comics littered all over the house. On top of all these domestic bonuses that I’ve experienced, I’m also starting to notice more and more that the digital landscape is becoming the place to go to find books that DC/Marvel wouldn’t normally release as part of their distribution. LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT is a perfect example of this.
I thoroughly loved the first issue of this digital exclusive. The concept alone is just great for inventive storytelling: single issue one shots written by different creators who are just telling good Batman stories. It’s simple and so far it’s been awesome. While the first issue saw a classic Gotham tale about Alfred and Bruce’s relationship, in this 2nd issue we get to see Batman at his best squaring off against Amazo while he’s doing some solo duty in the Justice League Watchtower. What I love about this story is that it is made for fans of Batman at his core. It’s not a huge scoping arc or a genius detective tale; it’s simply watching Batman do what Batman does best: outsmart others. Jonathan Larsen paints a fast-moving cat and mouse game between Amazo and Batman and shows that Batman, even when embroiled in a fight, is finding constant ways to test and train himself better.
The artwork in LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT #2 changes heavily from the first issue that featured gritty sketches of Gotham by Jeff Lemire to the more polished artwork of J.G. Jones. His interpretation of Batman in this issue reminds me a lot of the Batman I remember from the 80’s with a quick, campy 60’s Adam West Batman reference thrown in (which, might I add, was awesome). There is one odd drawing early in the book that just seems very out of place where Batman is striking way to much of a modeling pose while holding a “I heart Gotham” coffee mug that just doesn’t blend with the rest of the issue at all, but it made me laugh, so I can’t be that mad at it. I mean maybe that’s just how Batman rolls when he’s finally alone and able to relax.
While there are no groundbreaking twists or storytelling happening here, what you get is a fun look at Batman’s personality. So far the first two issues of LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT have been home runs for me. I can’t suggest you pick them up enough. Not everyone has embraced digital comics yet, but these are the types of stories that show what solid digital exclusives can bring to the table. Oh, and the best part is each issue (which releases every Thursday) runs for $0.99. I can’t think of a better deal in comics right now. Other books have me paying $3.99 for barely 20 pages of garbage and here I’m getting 20+ pages of creative storytelling starring arguably my favorite superhero for less than a buck. Go digital, my friends, and pick up LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT--you won’t regret it.
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REED GUNTHER #10
Writer: Shane HoughtonArtist: Chris Houghton
Publisher: Image Comics
Reviewer: Lyzard
Usually I try to keep up with every issue of a series. I reviewed REED GUNTHER #1 for another outlet and not until issue #7 was I able to return to the Wild West story of a cowboy and his bear. Come these last two issues, I felt that I missed out on a lot. However, the adventures that I have read of Reed, Sterling, and Starla were enough for me to become invested in the characters. So did the delayed release of the final issue of this run live up to my expectations?
REED GUNTHER #10 picks up immediately after “Fiends Forever Part One.” Reed has just offered his soul in exchange for Sterling to be exorcised of the evil Mr. Todd. Just a quick note: Though it could have been explained in a past issue, why the shaman hid this despicable man in a 9-foot bear is beside me. Wouldn’t it have been smarter to place the despicable soul in, say, a turtle? Something that couldn’t do much damage if Mr. Todd was awakened?
But that’s water under the bridge, for soon the soul is transferred to Reed after he trades his soul, despite Starla’s logical argument against doing so. You’d think this would be less dangerous than fighting off a possessed wild animal, but this new Reed comes along with a “fiery” temperament.
In my review of issue #9, I hoped “that in the next book both the jokes and terror can work together.” To some degree the Houghtons pulled this combination off. For every victory, there was another problem that arose. This allowed moments of levity in between, where the characters could fall back on their accustomed wackiness.
Related to this was another issue I had with the previous issue where “a moment of pure seriousness from him [Reed], no matter what the level of danger is, seems uncharacteristic of him.” Even more so than issue #9 the stakes are higher for Reed here. However, this time he never breaks character and fights back the best way he knows: by being the greatest annoyance the West has ever had to deal with.
Josh Ulrich’s coloring used the same technique as last time, having the hue follow the change of mood throughout the piece. However, the choice to use black and white when Reed and Mr. Todd are fighting in Gunther’s mind reminded me of Harry Potter and Voldermort in that awkward limbo scene. Not a connection I would have imagined nor found suitable. For a comic that has had so many original takes on the supernatural, to have such a familiar idea not turned on its head seemed out of place.
All that being said, I found the conclusion fitting. It’s not too much of a spoiler to say that Shane Houghton matched my expectations and ended with “one last cheesy one-liner, a real groaner” from our always-sarcastic cowboy. Also, if you read my interview with the Houghton brothers you know that this isn’t the end for Reed, Sterling, and Starla. Though no date has been set for their return, in the meantime you can catch up with the trio when the trade paperback, REED GUNTHER VOL. 2: MONSTERS AND MUSTACHES comes out July 25th.
Lyzard is actually Lyz Reblin, a senior screenwriting major with an English minor at Chapman University. Along with writing for AICN, she has been published twice on the subject of vampire films.
BATMAN #10
Writer: Scott SnyderArtists: Greg Capullo & Jonathan Glapion
Publisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Masked Man
Where to start with this one huh? Well before I tackle the elephant in the room, let’s go over the book itself- OK? So, Scott Snyder brings us closer to the conclusion of Night of Owls. I wonder why DC left that banner of the cover. Anyway, the Court of Owls comes to a rather satisfying end, with a good twist. What was set up as a war between Batman and the Court of Owls for Gotham City has turned into the rise of a new super-villain. It comes together really well as Batman, who had all the pieces, slowly puts the puzzle together. As for the backup story, it does a nice job of supporting the history of the main book.
Greg Capullo continues to draw a great looking Batman book, helped by Jonathan Glapion’s inks. The two do a great job of superhero cool and grittiness, which always works well on a Batman book. I’m reminded of Tom Mandrake’s run on BATMAN. Things don’t have to be too clean when it comes to Batman art.
OK, spoiler time for people living in a cave--if you’re still planning on reading this story, then stop now and move on. For the rest of us, Bruce Wayne is no longer an only child--say what!?! So how do we feel about this? Does the comic world need another evil sibling? Is it cool that another Wayne is walking the world? Is this just another cheap gimmick? Want to see how this affects Bruce’s life? Does it improve the Batman mythos? A little of all of that, I think. Now for the most part, when something like this happens I like to ask the question: does this improve the story? For this comic--sure; for Batman and his world, I’m not too sure. These characters have no history together, so who cares that they share parents? Offhand, I’d say Bruce has more in common with Two-Face than Owlman, here. And does Bruce Wayne’s story really benefit from more family tragedy? Sometimes I feel writers get burned out on writing a character’s future, so they start messing with their past-does anyone really care what Peter Parker’s parents did for a living!?
Mind you, I think it’s cute that Snyder has pulled Grant Morrison’s character from JLA: EARTH 2, Thomas Wayne Jr. aka Owlman, and has placed him in the new 52 Earth proper. I won’t give him credit for pulling Thomas Wayne Jr. from Bob Haney’s WORLD’S FINEST #223 from 1974. I assume that was Grant Morrison’s pull for EARTH 2. Grant also added the Owlman aspect that Snyder is clearly running with. So cute, but maybe not necessary (Haney quickly killed his Wayne Jr.).
The end result is that more comics will sell, because people will want to know what’s up with Junior. So DC’s main goal will be achieved, have no doubt. But as we try and figure out how Batman had a kid and went through 4 Robins in the past 6 years, now we have to factor in the junior. Does the new 52 seem all that new reader friendly to you now?
Overall, though, a strong book--it scores a 3 out of 4.
INCORRUPTIBLE #30 (final issue)
Writer: Mark WaidArtist: Damian Couceiro
Publisher: BOOM! Studios
Reviewer: BottleImp
Much like its companion title IRREDEEMABLE, INCORRUPTIBLE was a series that sucked me in right away with the first issue and its simple yet intriguing premise. Unfortunately, INCORRUPTIBLE followed too closely to its parent comic in its storytelling arc. Much as I grew bored with the slow pace and minimal characterization in the pages of IRREDEEMABLE, I became disinterested in Max Damage’s quest to change from villain to hero, as INCORRUPTIBLE failed to deliver on the promise of its premise. But seeing as how this series has followed once again in the footsteps of IRREDEEMABLE and ended with this 30th issue, I decided to take one last look and see how Mark Waid chose to close out Max Damage’s story.
Turns out that INCORRUPTIBLE ends not so much with a bang, but with a…well, it would be unfair to call it a whimper, but let’s just say that Max Damage’s story just sort of peters out at the end. No grand, final confrontation with the Plutonian; no blaze of glory final stand that is the stuff of what legends are made; no epic battle to the death. Just a crisis averted, the Plutonian gone, and a world draws back to normal. Lack of cathartic earth-shaking events notwithstanding, Max does find himself changed by his journey, humbled by the realization that he need not have tried to become the world’s savior to atone for his criminal life. Max’s drive to be the super-powered champion to replace the rogue Plutonian was motivated more by ego than by the desire to do good, and at the end of his series, he knows that his need to feel important kept him from helping people as well as he could.
Perhaps this is Waid’s commentary on the role of ego in the battle between good and evil, and how being a good person and working towards a brighter future can be hindered by one’s own inflated sense of importance. That’s all well and good for an intellectual discussion, but INCORRUPTIBLE is, after all, a comic book. About superheroes and supervillains. Who are nigh-invulnerable and can toss cars around like footballs.
And a grand, final confrontation, blaze of glory, final stand kinda thing would’ve made for a much, much more entertaining issue for the series to go out on.
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DEATHSTROKE #10
Artist & Writer: Rob LiefeldPublisher: DC Comics
Reviewer: Optimous Douche
I try not to be hard on Mr. Liefeld as I’m a direct contributor to his meteoric rise to success in the early 90s. I was there through everything: HAWK & DOVE, NEW MUTANTS and the ultimate shitting of the bed, anything Image. He captured something during those “In Living Color” days and as fans we couldn’t get enough.
But he wasn’t the only thing I loved back then: I loved Z Cavariccis, a pair of pants that gave everyone that attractive 8 inches of waist that make a torso complete. I loved C&C Music Factory because it was rap white bred suburban kids could understand. I loved “Cheers”, because the banter between Sam and Rebecca was so sexually charged. And last but certainly not least I loved Tiffany Amber Thiessen in ways that still make my right hand blush.
Here’s the thing, though: human knowledge and art are exponential in growth. They’re a building process wherein we take what was before extracting and carrying forward the elements of truth that resonate within the core of our collective humanity while leaving the “fad” elements behind.
I’m all for second chances, assuming the transgressions of the past are rectified and those that trespass against us learn the error of their ways.
So I gave Rob’s new titles a chance when the New 52 launched last year, thinking…actually, make that hoping Mr. Liefeld would have taken some classes like Feet 101 (or how I learned to love arches), Physics Is Your Friend (or sometimes people walk), Guns – Triggers are Useful, Faces – Humans Aren’t Perpetually Shitting and last but certainly not least Screen Doors – Why All Stories Should Not Take place on Your Front Porch.
Sadly, Rob didn’t learn shit and I’m guessing neither did the comics world. Not only does Rob still get work without improving one iota, but with over 25,000 Twitter followers, a legion of blog hits and more titles churning off the presses by the day, we have proven beyond doubt that the core of human existence is misery, suffering, and a perpetual cycle of repeating our past mistakes.
I want to ask DC a question. If you have a loved one with cancer and a whisper of hope to save their life, would you get the worst doctor imaginable that charged you an arm and a leg? That’s DEATHSTROKE 10. Slade Wilson ruled the comic scene for a long time--never A-list, but certainly rising to a respectable B through his early days. He was lost in the reboot, but certainly not beyond redemption.
So what does DC do? Instead of getting him the best treatment available to comic science, they instead fix him with a quack who not only embodies every past mistake, but brings a slew of new WTF moments with each passing panel.
Matt Adler said on our podcast last night “DEATHSTROKE 10 is Liefeld at his Liefeldiest.” Meaning if you enjoy comic autopsies, here are the goods. Matt’s a nice guy and was trying to find something nice to say. I equate this statement to saying, “Hey if you liked genocide, then Hitler circa 1941 was ol’ Adolf at his most Hitlarian.”
The raping of comic good taste happens on page one. RobLef takes the examples Peter Jackson taught us about forced perspective in “Lord of the Rings” and gleefully shits all over them. As our favorite Czarnian Lobo eats at a small dessert diner, he, his table and all of the food he’s eating is ten times larger than anything else in the scene. When a lovely waitress saunters up, I was thrilled to see Boom-Boom in comics again, until I realized this is just a waitress and Rob is only capable of drawing one type of woman in street clothes. This scene might have been funny and perhaps interesting if I had never seen the movie “Roadhouse,” but being a huge fan of the entire Swayze catalog, I was nonplussed when Lobo starts a fight with a biker in the diner and takes his bike. What did amuse me, though--for all the wrong reasons--is how RobLef drew the biker as he gets punched through a doughnut display case. Instead of actually showing him travelling through the case, RobLef decides to let us imagine how the scene will play out by cutting to the Biker’s legs basically being attached to the case like a Garfield car window hanger. I mean honestly, do we really need to convey motion when God gifted us with these vivid imaginations…well, some of us?
In case you didn’t know, Rob still writes terribly as well. As Lobo rides off into the sunset on his newly acquired bike with awesome space age treadless tires, we are treated to five monologue boxes that sound nothing like Lobo. This internal pontificating reminded me of my “Corky Reads Hemingway” Time/Life books on tape.
So where is Lobo going? To look for a ship.
Oh…well that’s, uhmmm, awesome. I can’t wait to keep reading. Or I guess I could go read a good comic about looking for a spaceship called SAGA. No, no--why enjoy myself? Let me keep reading DEATHSTROKE.
This would be as good a time as any to mention the intensity of this issue. We all know that not just ventriloquists talk through gritted teeth; a lot of people are doing it these days to wear away those pesky incisors we all have and avoid any hope of clear diction. I bet what you didn’t know, though, is that lip removal is becoming a huge fad amongst kids these days. I mean, honestly--who needs lips when you can just use your teeth to keep your insides protected from germs and penises trying to get inside? Seriously, I’ve seen so many lipless teenagers these days it wasn’t at all disconcerting when they were completely absent from the book.
So Slade Wilson shows up and he’s looking for Lobo, because Lobo is bad and Slade is good. Wait, that’s not right. Look, fuck you and your need for logic. Slade wants to find Lobo and we’re along for the ride whether we like it or not. Kind of like going to visit Grandma in the home: not fun, but you feel kind of obligated. RobLef clearly remembered the first rule of launching a new title: readers like to be confused and not understand who the characters are or what drives them. Next up, DEATHSTROKE and some refugees from I think Gen 13 (or insert any Liefeld production from 1990-1997 here) end up at a big hole in the ground that is a penitentiary for bad guys. We know this because the characters say so. In a visual medium like comics it’s always best to tell the story rather than show it.
Once inside, the team (at least I think they’re a team, I don’t fucking know) meet up with a big strong guy who doesn’t like Lobo either. I forgot his name after I took a shower huddled in the fetal position and cried away the memories. From what I can remember of the experience, though, this guy had the really cool feature of portals on his body that would appear and disappear from panel-to-panel. I also remember at one point DEATHSTROKE takes off his mask so he could show the bad guy that he doesn’t have lips either and maybe they can get along. At least I think that’s why he took his mask off because I can’t think of another reason and neither could RobLef.
Physics abandoned? Check! Anatomical monstrosities? Check! Feet sans arches or form? Check! Backgrounds in their basic most simple form? Check! A story that neither matters nor makes sense? Check! This is pure Liefeldness and those of you who get off on trimming your pubes with a food processor will not want to miss this foray into comic book masochism.
Seriously, at this point DC is torturing the low selling books. It’s more humane to pull the plug on a book than pull the plug, wait for the last dying breath, and then plug the fucking machine back in again.
SPIDER-MEN #1
Writer: Brian Michael BendisArtist: Sara Pichelli
Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewer: KletusCassidy
You miss me?!?! No…ok, well…whatevs. When I saw that this comic was coming out I was torn as how to feel about it. On one side, I love Bendis’ ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN (USM) and have ever since I started reading way back around issue #30 or so and I’m enjoying the hell out the ALL NEW ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN starring Miles Morales. On the other side, I find Bendis’ AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (ASM), as shown in NEW AVENGERS and more recently in AVENGERS, completely annoying and unfunny (Bendis’ HOUSE OF M being the exception). I think Bendis writes him too much like USM and the grown man Peter Parker comes off like an ignorant child who won’t shut up instead of a guy who’s been a superhero for 25+ years. The teenager-like dialog both internal and external works perfectly for USM because he IS a kid and thus gets a pass for acting like one, but the older Peter Parker has no excuse. I think most of the reason I picked this book up was on the strength of USM and the hope that the quality of that comic may bleed into Bendis’ depiction of ASM.
Got all that?!? Good, let’s move on.
SPOILERS AHOY: So this is a set up issue, plain and simple. Not too much happens and the meeting between ASM and USM doesn’t really happen until the end of the issue…like…the very end of the issue. This comes off as strange to me because the whole premise and appeal of the book is that these two Spider-gents and are going to meet BUT we now have to wait for the next issue to see it. I really think this book could have been condensed so that these two could meet earlier on in the issue instead of having the cliffhanger be what we already knew was going to happen. I also would have liked a slightly stronger reason as to how this meeting came to be. ASM Peter Parker not only works at Horizon Labs, which is always experimenting with weird shit, but he is (or recently was) also a member of the FANTASTIC FOUR that also does similar science-y stuff that could lead to two alternate universes colliding, so I don’t see a need to have some completely random event be the catalyst for this meeting. Instead of getting right into the action we have an issue where, for the most part, ASM is swinging around New York talking to himself the entire issue, which again bothers me because he sounds too much like the recently deceased USM Peter Parker. Sadly, throughout this entire issue I found myself thinking “Where the fuck is Miles?!?!” because ASM Peter Parker was annoying the shit out of me (you have no idea how much that pains me to express that). I can’t say I’m completely enjoying the current arc on Dan Slott’s ASM, but I think his Peter Parker is way more believable and funny while Bendis’ jokes fall flatter than a methhead’s booty.
Sara Pichelli’s art is good, but I don’t feel it’s as good as her work on USM; the pages here don’t seem as tight and clean as her earlier work. The art is still pretty good, though, and she draws a beautiful Spider-Man, so I’m looking forward to seeing her draw ASM and USM in action together. Sara Pichelli’s art on a bad day still is pretty damn good so it’s not a complaint as much as an observation.
I think if this comic took place before USM Peter died, a lot more emotion could be pulled out of this story as their lives were similar with some obvious differences, but it would have played into that ‘if could go back in time and talk to my high school self’ fantasy that a lot of people have. In my opinion, that would have led to some really interesting conversations between two alternate versions of Peter Parker. I think if you’re a hardcore Spider-Man fan like myself you already have this book and possibly a variant cover or two, but if you’re not and you are on the fence, using this issue to decide whether you want the whole series or not, I’m not sure this issue is going to make you feel like you HAVE to read this series. Hell if you’re on the fence and you are not a completist and need every issue of this story, I’d say maybe start at issue #2 and take it from there as not too much happens in this one. Sara Pichelli’s art is still great; however, I’ve seen better from her, which is the problem when an artist’s earlier work is really good--there’s a high standard that people hold you to. But don’t be mistaken: her art is still top tier and looks great. This issue isn’t terrible, but it does fall into the ugly realm of set up issue and mostly deals with the Bendis Spider-Man I don’t like…so proceed with caution. I think this issue could have been a lot stronger, especially since a first issue’s sole purpose is to grab you by the eye sockets, pull you in, and keep you there until the story is over, which I’m not sure this issue did but what does Ol’ Kletus know--he’s just a drunk with a penchant for comics, cigars, and cheap beer.
CONAN #5
Writer Brian WoodArt: James Harren
Publisher: Dark Horse Comics
Reviewer: MajinFu
The days of the buff barbarian saving the damsel in distress are over. Conan’s with a new lady now, and she’s just as dangerous as the lone Cimmerian.
Not in the same way as a barbarian, of course. Bêlit is far more devious, and arguably more daring, in her endeavors. While the first arc of the story drew extensively from Robert E. Howard’s original texts, this arc strikes out to further explore the exploits of the pirate queen while Conan serves as her companion, both in arms and the bedroom. This is only the second issue of a new arc (“The Argos Deception”) so it’s still not clear if she is using him or their relationship is truly mutual, which makes for a very compelling reading experience.
The issue begins in a harbor city where Conan is trapped in prison awaiting death by hanging. Bêlit’s intervention shortly before the execution leads to a thrilling fight where Conan must defend his life to attain his freedom. This battle against the harbor city’s champion is the centerpiece of the issue, but it never gets tedious or boring. The city of Messantia is realized in vivid detail, right down to its very own laws and traditions leading to the aforementioned clash. The choreography and composition of the fight are superb, as the deliberately scripted narrative shifts between the two leads, Conan obliging his queen by distracting the people of the city as only a manacled Cimmerian can, while Bêlit does all the dirty work.
It’s a cunning dynamic that makes the old killer Conan seem like such a softy. The characterization may appear a little shady to fans of the classic persona, but bear in mind this is a younger version of Conan, and the pair have such a natural chemistry that you’re too busy rooting for them on every page to care. Bêlit is a fascinating and multifaceted character with enough ambition to go places, and she’s smart enough to take her new beau along for the ride. It’s one of the best romantic angles I’ve seen in a Conan comic in years. I really don’t know what will happen next, although I suspect these two are just getting started, and things will only get bloodier before it’s all over.
Becky Cloonan, the artist from the last arc, is on hiatus and the latest visuals are provided by James Harren. Cloonan had a great run on the first arc of this book, but if you thought the filler artist was going to be any less stellar you’d be dead wrong. Compared to Cloonan’s soft, atmospheric art Heenan has a rougher style that complements the urban sprawl and quick action of the story quite well. The slightly exaggerated character models and harsh lines lend a weight to the fight that really conveys the impact of the action. The establishing pages of this issue hum with a subdued intensity but the lines thicken substantially as the issue progresses and the action heats up. In fact, some of the inks in the later pages were almost distractingly thick but still served to intensify the sense of battle fatigue nicely. With Dave Stewart continuing to coat the whole thing with these brilliantly evocative colors, the book continues to be a visual tour-de-force.
I really enjoyed this issue, but what could be misconstrued as decompressed storytelling might throw some people off. In my opinion, CONAN THE BARBARIAN #5 is far too deliberate and well-executed to be considered filler! Regardless, this is a real swashbuckler of a comic that epitomizes the genre in nearly every way. There’s a splash page in this issue that would make the Spartans from “300” blush yet the action never feels derivative or goofy. This is another one of those comics concerned with getting from point A to point B while cramming as many cool moments as possible in between and in this case the journey is far greater than the destination.
Advence Review: In stores today!AVENGERS VS X-MEN #6
Writers: Jonathan HickmanArt: Olivier Coipel (pencils), Mark Morales (inks), Laura Martin (colors)Publisher: Marvel Comics
Reviewed pompously, by Johnny Destructo,br>
During the latest AICN COMICS/Poptards Podcast (Episode 111) , a chorus rang out to the heavens. A fanboy cacophony of disappointment unleashed as we announced, with no uncertainty: Failure. I, being the ever-so-sensitive and shy one, said "well, it's just not been for me". And, by Odin's Beard, I meant it. Um..verily. The experience until now had, to me, felt more an economy of story in lieu of knuckles on faces. The detailing of the world's "most expensive punch" while cute, wasn't what I was hoping for. It's the Mighty Marvel Way of old, to be sure...to pit hero against hero, but I was hoping for a little more. And as much as I've worshiped JRjr's weighty pencil stylings in the past, the sequentials were coming across as a little rushed and to all four of my eyes, it looked like it was going to keep disappointing me.
Well, even your jovial Johnny Destructo can be wrong once in a ....
well..ok, just the once.
I admit it with Glee, (but without all the dumb singing) that this issue has turned me around! No longer do I scuttle slump-shouldered down the beaten path towards Jadedsburg, now I face a new horizon as I stride proudly towards ...Awesomes...ville? Look, the book is fantastic, is what I'm saying. As Douche would bellow, in a bass-heavy tone "SOSOSOSOSO GOOD! SO SO SOSOSOGOOD!"
This book finally disperses with the silly slug-fests and the burly brouhahas, and we arrive, as Charles Xavier does, to a new Utopia. In fact, an almost new WORLD. Changes are sweeping the world as the Phoenix Five (Cyclops, Emma Frost, Colossus, Magik and Namor) take it upon themselves to use their new powers to remold the world to their liking, making things better. And not in a misguided "Oops, we're trying to make the world a better place, but in our misunderstanding are actually unintentionally harming it" way. It actually seems to be BETTER, with the Fabulous Phoenix Force Five (as I will, from here on, call them, cause it sounds fancier, and I do enjoy the fanciful, as well as run-on sentences, it seems) making sweeping changes where hunger and thirst are rampant, as well as creating new energy for the world. They don't even seem to be interfering with our world-leaders, the demand for the cessation of weapons manufacturing being the only exception. But of course, the sudden appearance of seemingly all-powerful beings taking control, however peaceably, worries us, and we can't just leave it alone.
This is where I will end my revealing of the plot, as I'd really like you to go into the book and be as surprised as I was upon reading it. In the process of reading each previous issue of this crossover, I could be interrupted by life, my girlfriend, by customers, and I wouldn't really feel a burning desire to return to the book, I only did so because I thought I should. With this hefty issue, I got interrupted by my girlfriend, and found myself actually anxious to get back to this story, to see where it was going. If that's not a positive sign for a book, I don't know what is. "Yes my love, you are the best, the light of my life, now shut yer damn word-maw so I can finish this comic, this isht is just gettin' REAL!"Several frying-pan shaped lumps on my noggin and an apology later, I was able get this issue read and this review written. I felt I must tell you just how wrong I was and how great this issue is, so that you too can pick it up and enjoy the boogens out of it. So much do I wish this, that I do so from within a darkened closet, armed only with this laptop, in the hopes that my vengeful love won't find me. Good lord, I hear her coming. If anyone asks, I got these bruises falling down the stairs.
JD can be found hosting the PopTards Podcast, drawing a weekly webcomic, discussing movies, comics and other flimflam over at www.poptardsgo.com, graphically designing/illustrating for a living, and Booking his Face off over here. Follow his twitter @poptardsgo. His talkback name is PopTard_JD. He is also now co-hosting another Comic Book discussion show on Party934.com alongside Bohdi Zen. They discuss comics and play music, check it out live every Saturday from 4-5pm.
FLASH GORDON: ZEITGEIST #5Dynamite Entertainment
Alex Ross has managed to take everything he loves about Flash Gordon--the comic strip, the cartoon show, the movie--and jammed it all into one comic book. It’s a pretty good idea; the story and the look work well--aside from the yet again retelling of Flash Gordon’s main story, which I can’t say I’m too fond of reading again. It’s like an origin story in a superhero reboot movie-we know! Get on with it! Even with the Earth connection (which I must say works far better here than it does in Dynamite’s BUCK ROGERS or VOLTRON), things could be more interesting. Still, Trautmann manages to capture the Flash Gordon we all know and love. But the book has one major problem above all that--the art. Mind you, Daniel Indro seems to be a good artist with nice figures and great action. But pages and panels are often too cluttered and oversaturated in color. I’m curious if Alex Ross is setting up all the pages and leaving things to, dare I say, lesser artists to make them work. Because where Alex can really make his pages sing, these are just mud. Seriously, they are a mash of Photoshop color and graphite pencil shading. It’s a real shame, because I believe there is a fine book under all this. It scores a 2 out of 4. – Masked Man
POPEYE #2IDW Publishing
In my review of the first issue of Popeye’s brand spankin’-new book I noted that the book’s top quality could be hard to recreate in further installments. That was silly of me of course, because while the second issue lacks some of the adventurous attitude of that fantastic debut, it is still an excellent comic readers of all ages will enjoy. The rather singular narrative of the first issue gives way to not one but two shorter but no less quality stories. First, Popeye must compete with a snarky actor named Willy Wormwood for the affections of his love Olive Oyl who fails to notice his deceitful nature. The second is about self-titled genius Professor O.G. Wotasnozzle using his numerous inventions in an attempt to quell the conflict between friend John Sappo and his wife Myrtle. The ending to this story is rather abrupt but it’s still a serviceably silly yarn introducing a few faces with whom some Popeye fans may be unfamiliar. This is another quality issue that recreates the original comics in nearly every way, from the humorously phonetic dialog to the simple yet lush art. Speaking of the art, Luke McDonnell’s rich color scheme really helps to revitalize Popeye’s world and give it a fresh coat of paint that still looks pretty retro. While many will doubtless appreciate the nostalgia factor, younger folks who missed the boat at first can now pick this up and see what all the commotion’s about. - MajinFu
ZORRO RIDES AGAIN #10Dynamite Entertainment
By now it might be apparent that I love me adventure heroes. I just always have to check out what they are doing next--for good and for bad. Unfortunately, Matt Wagner and Zorro have not been a good match. Strange, because I thought he’d be great on ZORRO. Now, I get what Matt Wagner has been trying to do; he’s trying to craft a real, serious, gritty Zorro story (yes, even with Lady Zorro on the cover). Unfortunately, it’s long and boring and he’s managed to suck most of the fun out of the character--until now. After taking way too long to set her up, things have finally gotten interesting. Lady Zorro is a butcher, and while she dishes out her own brand of justice, she’s undermining Zorro’s mission. Now if Matt Wagner throws in the deranged former Sergeant Gonzales as well in the final two issues, this series that started with a whimper will end with a bang! Also, getting John K. Snyder III to sign on as the new artist helps a lot too (actually John joined on issue 7). Where many of Dynamite’s books suffer in the art department, this one does not; John does a really great job. I’ve been a fan of John’s ever since his days on the SUICIDE SQUAD. Just like Matt Wagner’s art, it’s bold and interesting. Mike Malbrough’s colors go great John’s pages too, giving them a real painterly quality. It still might not have been worth the trip, but this issue scores a 3 out of 4. – Masked Man
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June 20, 2012, 9:39 a.m. CST
Thomas Wayne Jr. was established long ago in Batman mythos
by Laserhead
A freak, shut up in Wildwood or something. Then forgotten about by all other writers and never mentioned again. In trying to integrate all the various eras of Batman, Morrison seemed to be implying that Dr. Hurt, the Wayne's puritan/Satan-worshipping/semi-immortal ancestor, had been the other Thomas Wayne. #10 actually raised Snyder's new 52 run in my estimation. I don't know if the reveal will hold (maybe it's fucking Clayface or Zartan or something), but I think it'd be great if Owlman was Bruce's opposite number, just like he said.
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June 20, 2012, 9:50 a.m. CST
Liefeld still can't fucking draw. Sure, you have to respect his "accomplishments"... but the guy has seriously not improved since 1993
by Autodidact
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June 20, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST
Really DEATHSTROKE 10 is stealing the thunder today?
by optimous_douche
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June 20, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST
I regret the money and time I spent on IREDEEMABLE/INCORRUPTIBLE
by Autodidact
This is what sucks about everything being printed in trades now. Used to be, if something came in trade paperback form, you could rest assured that it contained a fairly complete and self-contained story. I bought four volumes of IREDEEMABLE and one of INCORRUPTIBLE before realizing they were just segments of a slowly declining comic that was going to go around in circles for as long as the creator could milk it.
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I like to physically sift through my media. Sometimes when I look at my comic book shelves I have a Grant Morrison moment and feel like I am somehow engaged or affected by the power of all that imagination and the residual psychic affect of my own focus on them.. I don't think digital comics have a psychic memory!
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Tried Irredeemable early on; found it trite and unimaginative, and the ending only confirmed it. If it's not the early to mid-90s and Mark Waid isn't writing The Flash, I'd say skip it. I know, I know: Daredevil. I like Daredevil. I love the art. One of the very best-looking books on the stands. But for the life of me, I can't generate any interest in the characters or stories. I had to admit to myself that the dreaded Bendis had at least kept me enthralled with his early work on the character.
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Cool concept that was spinning wheels for way too long. A pastiche of a pastiche is a pistachio not a comic.
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Exactly. And they were bad pastiches too. Plus, if you have no connection to the character because they never existed before the first issue, how can you be upset because he's "gone bad"? We've never seen him "good".
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The Comedian's crazed, leering face is da bomb. Brilliant condensation of the character's personality in one oversized frame. The cover speaks volumes. Something about JG Jones' work is inherently ... creepy. Someone with more artistic nous must explain how it's done in the talkback. Awaiting Jones' portrait of DOOM!
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I'm excited by the prospect of Batman having a supervillain opposite that is his equal physically AND mentally. I think it totally improves his world and adds to the rogue's gallery, which while obviously one of the great all time rogues galleries, they all definitely had a very obvious weakness when facing off against Batman. It'll be nice to find someone that can cancel out all of the character's advantages
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I wish the writing and art were better, because I love the idea and status quo at the moment.
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I'm behind, so reading JD's review makes me VERY intrigued. It got good? Really? Hmmm... I'm kind of excited to see what's what. It'd be nice if they made this cross-over fully understanding that the "cool" factor of the beginning of the crossover didn't have much staying power, but were okay with that because they had some hidden cards to play, narrative-wise.
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June 20, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST
The Comedian cover reminds me an awful lot of an old Brat Pack cover
by rev_skarekroe
http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/600w/845/458451/9211431_1.jpg Anyway, I spent the week reading old American Splendor comics. For some reason 30 year old stories about a middle aged government clerk speak to me more these days than whatever Batman's been up to.
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EXACTLY why I didn't give a fuck about IRREDEEMABLE after issue 2.
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Indeed, IRREDEEMABLE's fatal flaw was showing the downfall of figures we weren't invested in. To be totally unfair in a DOOM-like manner, compare with WATCHMEN. We knew nothing of the characters either, and yet that story has resonated for over two decades. Perhaps because they were portrayed as people, instead of tropes?
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We got to know the WATCHMEN folk before the proverbial shit hit the clock.
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He's just not a strong enough - or dark enough - writer. His silver age roots show too much for a project like this. He's too sugary and too DC-no pockets of a writer. Deep character motivations are not his strong suit, especially the ones of the darker variety. It was definitely a good and interesting idea, just not well executed. The worst part is, I think the lack of connection to brand new characters who have supposedly just undergone a dramatic shift in attitude can be overcome, too. Maybe he just started too late in the story. Or maybe he's just not that type of writer.
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Well, like I've said before Watchmen's characters were intergral parts of a larger story, they weren't presented as separate from the narrative. They all served a very specific and inteneded function. Nite Owl doesn't resonate these days on his own, like say, Batman does, he resonates as part of the Watchman package
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DOOM sees the leather fetish connection, a bit ... There are so many to keep track of. Actually the leather look immediately brought Oubliette to mind -- MARVEL BOY Noh-Varr's kinky opponent in the 2000 miniseries. No points for guessing who the artist was.
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Saying "he's too lighthearted" sounds like a putdown -- say, rather, he's best with more optimistic material, or with an optimistic ending. Waid *can* write quite strongly, has a good grasp of what makes characters tick, and often brings in details from left field that stick in the mind later. All of which makes it more miserable to watch when he plots himself into a corner and he can't muster up the bloody-mindedness needed to write his way back out again.
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June 20, 2012, 10:38 a.m. CST
Guys, I worked out this formula as to how long Pete has been at the Spidey thing...and his age works out to about 33...which is great b/c that's how old I am and he seems certainly feasible as a 33 year old. CHeck my math...
by Dogmatic
In order to take in ALL of the ongoing Spidey titles, limited series, one-shots, and guest appearances I basically did my formula assuming Spidey has had 8 ongoing monthly titles for his 49 years of real world existence. Sooo....8 monthly titles x 12 months in a year = 96 issues a year x 49 years of publication = 4704. Now, then I basically made each issue = one day...which works b/c one day can be covered over several issues or one issues can jump around days. So, then in order to make sure Pete is not CONTSTANTLY fighting crime I took the 4704 and multiplied it by 33% = 1552 and then added it onto the 4704 to get 6256 days of actual life for Pete as Spidey...4704 days of superheroing...and 1552 days of no Spidey stuff at all. Then, you simply take total number of days of life since becoming Spidey 6256 / 365 days in a year and you get 17 years of life since becoming Spidey rounded down. Marvel 616 canon says he became Spidey around 16 years old so 16 years old + 17 years since = Peter Parker is 33 years old in the comics now. How do you like my math? And I did that at work between reports...so I do have a life. hahaha
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shameless cash-in fan fiction. Pass.
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Exactly. Give him Supes or Flash and he'll run all day. Give him Batman and he has to turn him into a smiling buffoon. I mean, he had to take Daredevil back to his Happy-go-lucky roots, good book or not, it's the type of dramatic character shift from no where that people usually scream about, because of it's sudden left-field-ness. And talk all he wants on the "much needed change to Murdock's character and direction", the fact is: He had to make Daredevil light, because he can't do him any other way.
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Azzarello+Bermejo > Whatever rape-pastiche Alan Moore is contriving using other people's concepts.
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and the line has been cast...
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slowly realizing that I don't actually want to have this debate again, I'm just trying to avoid working... However, this realization provokes no change in my behavior.
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on my hard disk (yeah i read on my tablet, sue me) i like him, i was hoping to read incorruptable and irredeemable... laserhead, the two before watchmen's i read bored me so far so we'll see if comedian's any good. otherwise i won't bother following the rest. just waiting for alan's new league book now, think it's end of july?
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Apparently I'm going to end up reading the Before Watchmen titles before I actually read Watchmen. It's just sort of turning out that way. Anyway, I read this elsewhere, and it has me wondering if the claimed inconsistency is true... 'The original Watchmen suggested that Comedian may have murdered JFK – he was present in Dallas looking after Richard Nixon. The movie version showed it happening, shooting JFK from the grassy knoll. Before Watchmen: Comedian#1 shows us that, well, it couldn’t have happened. Because the Comedian was elsewhere. Also, for some reason, Moloch is black now. Must be magic.' Wut?
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i dunno what they have planned in the prequel series but you could be looking at a ' luke, i am your father' moment falling flat since you already saw 'little annie' banging padme in the prequels.
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It's the real thing, the whole thing. It's not a story intended to have more or less before or after. It is complete as is. In Toto. Start there. Anything else is just extra which may or may not be necessary, depending upon your own feelings.
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I just watched the director's cut again l;ast night and forgot this little tid bit when I wrote my review. Simply let it pass.
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Loved it.
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Being a look time reader of Batman, Batman already had an oppose number in The Wrath, from 1984 created by Mike Barr- ok he's dead (but so was Thomas Wayne Jr), and this is the new 52! Plus I always thought the original Black Spider and even at time the Catman was a good match-up against Batman- and let's not forget Prometheus (messed up as he can be). Also, does having TWO Owlmen (anti-matter Owlman and new 52 Owlman) cheapen this opposite number of Batman? Does it cheapen the Crime Syndicate in general, since Batman can now face Owlman on a daily biases? As I said, for the story this is cool. For Batman and the greater DCU, I'm not so sure.
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June 20, 2012, 2:36 p.m. CST
There I things I don't like but then respect, then there is Liefeld -
by Tom
The man is stunningly untalented. I believe everyone reading this column can write better than he can. If anyone spent the time drawing that he has, they would be masters of the medium- compared to him. Seriously DC, what is up? Tom Brevoort- who Rob to you? A forgotten son? There are so many good, really talented writers and artists I never see anymore- but Rob keeps getting work.
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June 20, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
Prometheus was also intnded to be Batman's opposite equal
by rev_skarekroe
But nobody seemed to care about using him much after Morrisson's JLA.
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That's what I get for skimming instead of reading.
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I think you have to jettison all pre new 52 stuff. DC will either use/reference it or they won't. The default setting now, is that everything before the new 52 no longer counts, unless they start using it, and then it does. Kind of like Thomas Wayne Jr. Yes, he was dead, but that was new 52, so... Also, I don't think Prometheus exists anymore. And I like Owlman better than him anyway, as he had a very obvious weakness that, now that it was known, just seems stupid if Batman doesn't counter it right away. Also... Anti-matter Owlman... I don't think he exists anymore, same with Black Spider. As for Catwoman, she's not really treated as a straight villain anymore, so while she might be a good opposite, she isn't really an "enemy", so it's nice to have someone fill that role completely. So, greater DCU in the new 52, yeah, I think it's a good idea.
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It'll never make any sense. Ever.
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...and I remember really, really liking it, but recall absolutely nothing. Pretty sure I went into the theatre after a couple of long island ice tea's. BTW: I picked up Lord of Nightmares last week, but haven't read it yet. Will it spoil anything, or require knowledge from, the main book? I'm only up to issue #18. And what's with this site? For weeks now it has fits where it loads really, really slowly, and now I'm getting internal server errors constantly. It's only this site.
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That was the first really good issue. Attaboy, Hickman. This story, I find interesting. The one where we spent three months with Cyclops shooting Captain America's shield on a beach, not so much.
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June 20, 2012, 6:07 p.m. CST
If you read this column, or the WATCHMEN prequels, but have not read WATCHMEN
by Autodidact
then, then, just.... fuck you.
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June 20, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST
Batman's best rival is Ra's.. I kinda hope he's back in RISE
by Autodidact
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So many people don't get it. WATCHMEN is self-contained. It's not supposed to have any fucking follow-ups. I'm amazed by how many people are saying they're going to read the prequels but they haven't read WATCHMEN. Why not read WATCHMEN and skip the prequels? It's only the greatest comic ever created, by a large margin (superhero comic, anyways). Not new enough for you? Not enough marketing to make it interesting for you? Idiots.
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June 20, 2012, 6:38 p.m. CST
Hey @autodidact: shhh. We get it, you are superior to everyone. Siddown and have a delicious lemonade.
by Poptard_JD
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Felt like a vastly different book than the previous 5, didn't it?
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June 20, 2012, 6:41 p.m. CST
Pink ur questions intrigue me! I haven't read the issue yet but now I'm curious
by Poptard_JD
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Clearly he has his poopy-pants on. If you give him a Flintstones Chewable and make him take a time out, it'll calm him down....
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AND GOBBLE A STREAM OF MY PISS.
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June 20, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST
My superiority complex does not make the WATCHMEN prequels any less of a shit-smear on the face of comics
by Autodidact
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that'd be Thomas Elliot / Hush would it not?
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I don't need any help since the operation. There's actually like ten of us. Check out reviewer name under abstract and then please stalk us on any of the social media channels we schill under the review.
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He's right these are fan fiction, because to argue canon for 12 issues written over 25 years ago is in-fucking-sane. There were the original books, plain and simple If that makes you sleep well at night, curl up with them in between your snuggy folds and sleep tight sweet one. If you want to know more about these folks, then read the prequels. Good night.
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June 20, 2012, 10:25 p.m. CST
I hate this weak-ass generation that strives for equanimity
by Autodidact
Generation "i" and the i is a guy sitting on a fence.
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June 20, 2012, 10:27 p.m. CST
Not only was it published 25 years ago, but it has all the prequel it needs
by Autodidact
WATCHMEN is 50% flashbacks for fuck's sake.
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June 20, 2012, 10:36 p.m. CST
You could tow a car with the vein in your forehead. Calm down before you stroke out.
by 3774
It's prequels for a comic book. Get a grip.
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Meanwhile the collective industry is holding down WATCHMEN while certain folk assrape the greatest single work in the genre, the thing that most elevated it to real art... now degraded and soaked in the jizz of any greaseball with the temerity. But yeah, let me calm down and approach this debacle with some composure. Cunts.
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June 21, 2012, 1:12 a.m. CST
I leave for 2 weeks and this is what it has come too...
by Greg Nielsen
Angry rants involving pee and other body fluids...oi
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June 21, 2012, 1:13 a.m. CST
Did anyone mention how awesome Francisco Francavilla was on Swamp Thing...
by Greg Nielsen
Should been the go to guy from the start
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June 21, 2012, 1:14 a.m. CST
Also, total bum out about Ultimate Xmen if the review is to be believed...
by Greg Nielsen
Cause I really like Brian Wood.
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June 21, 2012, 6:56 a.m. CST
One possible improvement in Liefeld's art: He might have realized that people don't have 100 teeth
by Autodidact
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June 21, 2012, 6:59 a.m. CST
I love how that Deathstroke image looks exactly like every Rob Liefeld design from the 90s
by Autodidact
He's incapable of drawing someone without belts and pouches all over. I think he does it mainly to break up the horrible anatomy. And it doesn't matter if you're already holding a big fat, vaguely Medieval looking sword... Rob will also give you twin katanas in sheaths poking up from your back.
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Optimous Douche nailed the Deathstroke review. Everything from the potential of the character to how it was wasted in the hands of overrated 90's sensation Rob Liefield. Full disclosure: I too, was a stupid kid, sucked into the 90's collector bubble, when I first started reading books, so Liefield was really my first intro to the hot artists of the day. But man! How times have changed. Inevitably, like so many we look back on that time (roughly 91-93 when the bubble burst) not unlike the baby boomers look at disco and wonder aloud "What were we thinking?" Liefield's art has never improved and I can't believe I paid any attention to him at all. As for Before Watchmen, I am not so adamant either way and if DC wants to use its property for new books then I feel it can, but whether it should is another story altogether. I don't know if I'll check them out, but there's enough there to intrigue me thus far.
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June 21, 2012, 9:16 a.m. CST
"Rob will also give you twin katanas in sheaths poking up from your back."
by buggerbugger
Plus, what does he do with that vaguely Medieval-looking sword when he's finished with it? It doesn't seem to have its own scabbard. Does he just... carry it around in his hand all the time? It's not going to fit in any of those pouches, is it? And if he's always going to be carrying that big sword in one of his hands, when is he ever going to get the opportunity to use those twin blades strapped to his back? And why strap all of those swords to your body in the first place when you could've strapped on some extra automatic weapons instead?
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I'd say second and give first place to Dark Knight Returns.
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June 21, 2012, 9:36 a.m. CST
That video of Todd McFarlane, Leifeld, and Stan Lee explains everything...
by Greg Nielsen
it's on youtube... MacFarlane, "I'm putting some extra leather straps on his arm. It'll make him sweat. Kids love sweat." So Leifeld is ultimately just the logical end result of that whole atmosphere. Poor Stan getting crapped and being passive aggressive back helps nothing either.
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June 21, 2012, 9:38 a.m. CST
Yeah Liefeld's art NEVER changed at all. Jim Lee's art has evolved along the same path beautifully. McFarlane's art is almost non-existent these days but when
by Dogmatic
it does appear it looks as good as it ever did, but comes off really outdated. Erik Larsen's art style I always loved...especially on Amazing Spider-Man, but it has gotten progressively more and more cartoonish over the years on Dragon...but you gotta give it to him...he loves that character and never stopped drawing him no matter how bad sales are. WHO reads Dragon by the way????
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June 21, 2012, 9:52 a.m. CST
you could tow a car with the vein on your forehead haha well done pink.
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST
again, @autodick, how many of the books have you actually read before coming here to inter-rant? it's ok buddy, i get cranky when I don't get my binky too.
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 9:54 a.m. CST
also, is a stream of your piss cold and refreshing, because holy hell, in this heat i would welcome it.
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 9:56 a.m. CST
Anyone who likes Liefeld was conceived during a night of unprotected, Disco-fueled sex.
by 3774
That's my theory. Newsflash: he was never, ever any good. People were just young and tired of the same old, same old comic artists handed down from their parents, and desperate for *anything* different. The psychology that spawns popular bad music can spawn popular bad art as well. I picked up the first 12 issues of Ultimate X-Men last week, but I've only managed to read the first issue so far. It's pretty super-neat. I hope it doesn't poop the bed along the way. But my mom said moments pre-me involved pot and Led Zeppelin, so you might want to consider or disregard my opinion accordingly...
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occasionally, in the hopes that I'll see something interesting, but I just wind up putting it back down, already bored. Except for the Savage Dragon issue that featured a giant green Osama Bin Laden wreaking havoc through a city. That one was amazing.
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I don't know how many of you read Fables, but for months now the book has been 17 pages with a 3 page backup. I love Fables, always have, but I cannot help feeling cheated every month.
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June 21, 2012, 10:10 a.m. CST
just read Avengers Academy 32: How am I emotionally moved by this boy and his Sentinel????
by Poptard_JD
I don't usually read AvAcademy, but dang this was a good issue
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I love Manhattan Projects, but they only have 20 pages of story, book-ended with 6 (!?!) pages of mood-setting credits, blank pages and quote-filler. I do love the work and no advertisements, but come on. It's excessive.
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June 21, 2012, 10:23 a.m. CST
Are you slow? I'm not going to read any of them. Their mere existence is a travesty.
by Autodidact
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Someone opening up a pouch and taking something out.
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Would then have to draw fingers. He's mastered talons (i.e. a straight line), but fingers please don't unleash that on comicdom.
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Spawn is my favorite example of how comic readers should treat books. I used to buy Spawn, just like everybody else, and then somewhere around issue 80-ish or so, I woke up and realized that I didn't like the book and haven't for a long time... so I stopped buying it. If more comic buyers treated their weekly visits that way, I think they'd like their hobby more.
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June 21, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST
I am slow, obviously, since I can't comprehend why you're wasting your time pissing in the wind about something you're not even reading.
by Poptard_JD
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.. not sure how it's still in print. That's not a jab at the book, but honest curiousity
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June 21, 2012, 10:44 a.m. CST
On the other hand, finally caught up on New Deadwardians...still an interesting book, if a little dry
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST
I hate it so everyone else should hate it too! Anger!! Outrage and so forth!! Profanity!!
by 3774
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http://tinyurl.com/7jdqto8 You might be interested if you read that series...
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June 21, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST
If someone makes a video of themselves assraping my favourite pet I'm not going to need to see the video to feel negatively about it
by Autodidact
Does that metaphor help clear it up for you?
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June 21, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST
Some people just like to wave picket signs, even when they're blank.
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 10:49 a.m. CST
If they released CITIZEN KANE 2 with a script by Mark Millar I wouldn't watch that either
by Autodidact
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June 21, 2012, 10:50 a.m. CST
haha Way to repeat it back to me, @auto. "yes I am slow." ..."Yeah! Yeah, you are the thing you just admitted to, take that!"
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 10:52 a.m. CST
the pet thing doesn't work, because you have OWNERSHIP of a pet.
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST
No more examples, @auto...non of them hold any water, but I am enjoying how riled up you get about something that doesn't effect you in the slightest.
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 11:01 a.m. CST
It's like watching a guy wave his arms and scream angrily, while on a bobbing musical carousel.
by 3774
It's a comic book. If you could tie it to something sociologically important, like racism, or classism, or sexism, you might possibly be able to somehow justify your neck-tendon rage. Go to school and learn to articulate yourself beyond 'fuck you', 'piss', 'cunt' and such. Then maybe you could give a compelling argument about the excesses of corporate franchise versus artistic vision, or the precise, Machiavellian art of legal contracts. As it is now, you're just an angry, sputtering fool. If you're coming across as somehow actually looking like an angry Liefeld character (you are), it's time to re-work your approach. How do boys online phrase it? 'Just sayin'?
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i'm thinking that's because she hasn't read the comics. it just wasn't right. the only good thing to come of it was that they made a motion comic released in the run up to the film. brilliant. motion comics are looked down on by comic fans i know, but just the smallest things, the music and voiced dialogue, really made it a great watch. all the original artwork too, of course. check that out if you can. haven't read any liefeld. only heard of him recently when i got around to checking out alan moore's run on supreme - i tend to find writers i like and read their runs of comics i wouldn't normally care about. this says it all: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Robliefeldpic.jpg/230px-Robliefeldpic.jpg
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June 21, 2012, 11:05 a.m. CST
Okay then genius I wouldn't watch a video of Alan Moore's favourite pet being assraped
by Autodidact
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I really like it. I have the 4 hour edit, with the extra footage and the animated movie edited in. Was it perfect, hell no. Was it the best live interpretation possible at the time, hell yes. Again, it doesn't live up to the brilliance of the comic, but I do really enjoy watching it. Except for that damned love scene, it's waaay too long and awkward and the song makes it ridiculous!
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June 21, 2012, 11:07 a.m. CST
No, comics are not as important as sociological issues like classism, racism, sexism, etc.. that's incredibly astute thanks for pointing it out
by Autodidact
Aren't you the dimbulb broad who is going to read Before Watchmen before reading WATCHMEN? Your opinion doesn't count.
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a Liefeld character, lipless and eternally grimacing, even when doing simple things like ordering breakfast
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when ordering your breakfast through your eternal 1000-toothed grimace, do you yell at the other diners for ordering food you don't like? "GLARRRGHHHH ARE YOU ORDERING CHOCOLATE CHIP WAFFLES???!!?!?! I WOULDN'T EAT WAFFLES WHILE ASS-RAPING ALAN MOORE'S FAVOURITE PET!! WAFFLES MAKE ME WANT TO NEVER EAT FOOD EVER AGAIN!!!" "Sir, have you ever had a waffle" "SHUT UP WAFFLES HAVE MISCHIEVOUS NOOKS AND CRANNIES!!!"
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June 21, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST
Most stupid love scene with inappropriate song ever goes to Heavy Metal.
by 3774
I remember recall almost nothing about Watchmen, but I bought it for $5 last week. I'll watch it again soon. And then read the prequels. And then watch the motion comic. And then watch the director's cut of the movie. I shouldn't need to read the original after all that, should I? Nah, that should be plenty.
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I don't think they made that movie for girls (not to be sexist).
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June 21, 2012, 11:19 a.m. CST
I don't think I've ever seen Heavy Metal all the way through, got bored.
by Poptard_JD
And whatever you do, Pink... don't order the WAFFLES!
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June 21, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST
pink... you're going to watch the movie that many times in that many formats but defiantly not read the original comic?
by Autodidact
In all seriousness can you explain why you wouldn't plunk down $20 and spend four hours reading it instead of watching the motion comic?
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June 21, 2012, 11:21 a.m. CST
They didn't. But my uncle knew I would love the WWII zombie scene.
by 3774
What with being obsessed with zombies and horror movies at a young age. Thanks to the same uncle, and his complete disregard for what movies are appropriate for little kids.
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June 21, 2012, 11:24 a.m. CST
It's a masterpiece of COMICS... the story is not the be-all end-all
by Autodidact
It's about how Moore and Gibbons stitched COMIC BOOK PANELS together on a COMIC BOOK PAGE and even structured issues and panels and page layouts to relate to the story. You can't get that from the motion comic or the movie. It just makes me wonder why in the fuck you would be so interested to watch the movie six different ways, watch the motion comic... you clearly like the story and find it all compelling... why the refusal to read the comic?
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June 21, 2012, 11:25 a.m. CST
I'm arguing with a guy who gets bored during HEAVY METAL and a chick who is planning to spend 20 hours engaging with WATCHMEN but never read the original
by Autodidact
There *is* something wrong with me. I'm out.
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When I told you to go to school, and the reasons why, I was serious. After that I was on troll vacation. Of course I'm going to read the original, whenever another trade comes into my LCS. I'm not paying for that giant 'ultimate hardcover' that's being pimped right now. Oh, what's that? Why yes, the original *has* had a sudden upswing in sales and new readers. Damn those useless prequels, anyway!!!
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Funny that he couldn't tell you were kiddin', Pink, but at least he's gone back to his diner to shout about Waffles or whatever.
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June 21, 2012, 11:31 a.m. CST
(peeks head in) I was going to ask if you were fucking with me
by Autodidact
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June 21, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST
I dont need to go to school. i'm an autodidact. I can articulate myself just fine but WATCHMEN prequels send me into a tizzy
by Autodidact
I don't give a flying shit about whether they increase sales of WATCHMEN 25 years after the fact.
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June 21, 2012, 11:33 a.m. CST
I was arguing with a guy who's first words about a movie I apparently SHOULDN'T have been bored with were "epic bush"
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 11:34 a.m. CST
Your pointing to the sales increase as any kind of justification for the sacrilege against WATCHMEN is the exact type of thing that sends me into a froth about it
by Autodidact
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don't let the </html> hit you on the way out. boom!
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html tags in posts.. this damn website...
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June 21, 2012, 11:37 a.m. CST
I would yell at other diners for ordering food I don't like
by Autodidact
If it meant that the next time I came into the restaurant my food had mutated into some offensive aberration devoid of any artistic merit.
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Anything to end this
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June 21, 2012, 11:39 a.m. CST
There's a section in one of my LCSs that has a bunch of old comics for $1....
by 3774
...and a ton of them have 'After Watchmen' printed on them. I guess it was some sort of marketing push to keep the momentum going with the influx of new readers, and redirect them onto 'Y' and such. If Before Watchmen does as well as DC hopes, I have no doubt that they'll be emboldened enough to do that again, but actually related to Watchmen characters. Crass marketing shame doesn't exist, so I'm calling it: Talon/Night Owl/Batman crossover by the end of 2013.
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June 21, 2012, 11:42 a.m. CST
I'm just gonna pre-emptively state that I know I can't articulate myself
by Autodidact
At least not in that context. Lots going on here in the lab.
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It doesn't quite work, but I still love it.
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June 21, 2012, 11:45 a.m. CST
In the lab, creating anti-waffle science I assume? accursed nooks and crannies.
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 11:46 a.m. CST
sorry, douche this is the only entertaining part of my day right now, haha. what would you like to discuss?
by Poptard_JD
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It's supposed to be long and awkward, they're trying to evoke the same feelings people had way back in the day when they saw the watchman sex scenes for the first time.
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but it seemed that the scene in the ship was supposed to be triumphant and passionate
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Seriously, awkward is one thing. Utterly inappropriate is another. Snyder should have just had them fucking to the Chicken Dance. neh-ne-ne-ne ne ne - bwalk bwalk bwalk bwalk bwalk.
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The scene on the couch is about Dan's mental state, it's a peek into his psyche. The one on the ship is the one where people freak out because superheroes are doin' it. The song was choosen to illustrate the awkwardness. And it very obviously worked...
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While the appropriate song "Weekend in New England" played in the background.
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June 21, 2012, 11:58 a.m. CST
Well, I can't speak to their intentions, but if that WAS their motive, it sure worked!!
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST
As much as I'm enjoying these BW stories, is there ANYONE who actually is looking forward to Ozymandius' book??
by Poptard_JD
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June 21, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST
WATCHMEN movie was okay for what it was (minor sacrilege)... casting of Ozymandias was pretty lame
by Autodidact
If they had to make the movie they should have gone with Aaron Eckhardt for Ozymandias. Someone physically imposing or who could at least resemble the world's best all-around athlete.
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You had to pause and look up how to spell Ozymandius
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June 21, 2012, 12:07 p.m. CST
Optimus never answered my question about Lord of Nightmares, because he's too cool.
by 3774
Alright, I'll throw random stuff out. I've been slowly working my way through back issues, letter by letter, from both when I was too young to buy comics on my own, and during the Chrome age after I had bailed. This week I started with the letter 'M', because....well, I don't know. Because I felt like it. Metaphysique (Eclipse Comics) #1-2 - Just too cool for words. It's exactly how I prefer my sci-fi....abstract, outside-the-box, and thoughtful. Mechanics (Fantagraphics Books) #1-3 - I love these comics so goddamn much it's unreal. The Moth (Rocket Comics) #1-4 - 'The last image a concussed law breaker will recall!' Fun, with great characters, particularly the (new) American Patriot. The Many Adventures of Miranda Mercury #295 (Archaia Studio Press) - Super neato, but the 'wish for a bigger penis' jokes, including 'inches' and such, for a 10+ comic? Yeesh.
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I don't know. I think physical stature, hair color, that's the kind of shit fanboy stunt casting gets hung up on, like the people who think Glen Danzig would be a hell'a awesome Wolverine. That shit can all be faked. Remember when people were shitting their pants because Elektra NEEDED to be greek? Because that was the problem with that film... What's most important is attitude and ability. Ozymandius didn't need to look like a "world class athlete" (what does that look like?), he needed to seem elite, arrogant, confident, maybe too confident. He needed to seem smart and capable. He needed to seem like royalty. And I think they pulled that off in the movie
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June 21, 2012, 12:20 p.m. CST
Sorry Pink Didn't Know All AmVam was directed at Me
by optimous_douche
Here's my dirty secret. I like to act in community theater shows. I just finished up a production last week so I'm about 6 weeks behind, only being able to read what I reviewed in that time frame. So basically my answer is a big ole' shrug.
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June 21, 2012, 12:26 p.m. CST
No it wasn't the movie's biggest problem. Carla Gugino's acting was. All-around athelete looks like the guy in the comic who looks like Aaron Eckhardt
by Autodidact
The performance of the guy they went with was too fey. He seemed more mischevious to me than anything. From the comic I imagine Ozymandias having overwhelming charm and a really virile and dashing appearance... he's the ideal human, baiscally. He doesn't have to be large or anything, just look strong and like he could pick up the Comedian and throw him across the room and through the window, then go compete in olympic sprinting or powerlifting or gymnastics. In the comic he looks like Aaron Eckhardt to me.
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Just joshin' ya. Nothin' but love.
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Those are three completely different body types and Aaron Eckhardt is an old man. And in the comic Ozy looks like a skinny guy, he's not overly muscled at all. Besides, Eckhardt couldn't pull off the old world culture that was necessary, he's too American
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that's all you need to know. i'll have to watch man of steel of course just to see what a mess he makes of it.
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And he certainly didn't ruin 300. Of course, it was stupid to begin with, but still...
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A few weeks ago I said that I didn't know if a Rorschach comic didn't seem that interesting because he is very specific, not that multi-dimensional, and I thought Watchment said everything to say about that character (unlike, say, the Comedian).. someone went totally off on me, called me names, etc... I have found two of the three Before Watchmen books to be pretty good, and even Minutemen wasn't bad, it was just more of a teaser than an actual comic. I don't get how its such an outrage to do a "Before Watchmen." What makes Watchmen so untouchable? No other book in any medium is really thought of that way... And I don't see how its any disrespect to the Watchmen original maxiseriers, which I bought in single issues back when and also have in trade. Im not even 100% sure if its the best comic ever, but it is very good. The movie was fine. Much like Hunger Games, it tried to put in everything and so was a bit limited, but it was kind of in a "can't win" situation. I didn't think Ozymandias was impressive enough. That actor has been good in other stuff, but he was wrong for his part. Malin Ackerman, who is also a good actress, wasn't really right as Silk Spectre either.
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June 21, 2012, 12:52 p.m. CST
Exactly he would be the average of those body types which is pretty much a slightly muscular guy... not a rail thin guy with a pinhead
by Autodidact
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The Bible is. People can get weird and neurotic when their favorite fiction is altered in any way...or told it isn't the Greatest thing Ever.
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Yeah, she was terrible
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http://tinyurl.com/6mtrfo3 lobo's got a weird black thing growing on his face and then the last panel, with his weird arm and those "surprised"(??) facial expressions... just brutal.
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June 21, 2012, 4:40 p.m. CST
I too always rolled my eyes at people who said stuff like Danzig should be Wolverine
by Autodidact
I also roll my eyes at the concept of any WWE wrestler in any role. Only wrestling fans think those guys can act.
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was that Ozy was too obviously the villain. Also, I thought the first trailer that came out was awesome and the montage with the old heroes was perfect but the rest of the movie was meh...
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June 21, 2012, 6:18 p.m. CST
I think the two first trailers for WATCHMEN are some of the best ever created
by Autodidact
The one with the MUSE song especially.
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The Den portion of the Heavy Metal movie was great. They should have made an entire Den movie. But the rest of it was just average. I have no argument for anyone who says they've never watched the whole thing. I like it, but it is a bit boring in places.
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I know I totally realized that when I wrote my other post, but I didn't want to include it because calling it fiction was gonna offend people...
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'Master Telepath Gooblex speaks to me from another world. I do his bidding because his aliens watch over me, and if I refuse I will be sucked into a dimensional vortex of timeless woe.' Crazy person. 'God speaks to me from heaven. I do his bidding because his angels watch over me, and if I refuse I will be cast down into hell for eternal torment.' Crazy person. People with imaginary friends, who actually believe that Harry Potter non-sense is real, sould be amusing. But they run the country. So it's terrifying instead.
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