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Who Killed Rosie Larsen?? Learn On Tonight's Maybe-Last KILLING Ever!! Final Thoughts On MAD MEN!! The GIRLS, CLIENT, MYTHBUSTERS And BORGIAS Finales!! The Returns Of GATOR BOYS And FALLING SKIES!! Plus TRUE BLOOD And More!

Published at: June 17, 2012, 4:03 a.m. CST

Before we learned it was really Roger Sterling, was I the only one thinking Sally’s friend Glen was hanging up on Megan?

And would Don have hallucinated about his hanged brother if Lane Pryce succeeded in starting his Jaguar?

“Mad Men” likes to end with “big” episodes. I think season one ended with Dick Whitman almost walking away from Don Draper forever. I think season three ended with the destruction and rebirth of Sterling Cooper.

The season finale wasn’t a game changer, but it was I thought a more than solid ending. Alexis Bledel’s Beth Dawes returned to undergo memory erasure and get Pete kicked off his commuter train. (Did you know Kartheiser shaved back his hairline this season to reflect Pete’s stress?)

Megan’s mom received at the Stanhope an acid-trip invitation from Roger Sterling. Peggy was assigned what would become Phillip Morris’ Virginia Slims. (Marie arrived in Manhattan for Easter – which fell on March 26 in 1967.  Virginia Slims hit the market July 22, 1968.)

SCDP enjoyed its best quarter ever and gobbled up more office space in Rockefeller Center’s Time Life building. And Megan employed nepotism to become the face of Butler Shoes.

I am not a fan of Don’s hallucinations, which feel a little hacky and too much like something we’ve seen on much worse series. Another thing that bugs me a little is the $125,000 death benefit SCDP received. Do insurance companies really pay death benefits subsequent to an obvious suicide? What company could make money writing a policy like that? (Also, was the insurance company aware that Lane had already tendered his resignation from SCDP when he wrapped that wire around his neck?)

Well, if it was a cheat, it was a cheat that gave us likely the best line of the finale’s most riveting scene: “You had no right to fill a man like that with ambition,” as delivered by “Army of Darkness” icon Embeth Davitz.

The biggest thing about the episode was probably this: it marked the first season a married Draper failed to cheat on his wife.

The expression on Elizabeth Moss’ face when Peggy discovered two dogs fucking outside her Richmond hotel room was a howl. I’d love to see Moss take home an Emmy this summer.

On last week’s “The Killing,” set on election day and billed as the first part of its season finale, Mitch Larsen learned about her family’s new pet and house, Stan Larsen learned Janek Kovarsky sleeps with the fishes, detective Sarah Linden learned the key card belonged to the Richmond campaign’s Gwen Eaton, and mayoral candidate Darren Richmond learned campaign aide Jamie Wright lied about where he was the night of Rosie’s murder.

Tonight we learn who killed Rosie Larsen.

It’s got to be Gwen Eaton, right? If it turns out Ruth Yitanes or Lyndon Johnson Rosales killed Rosie, I believe I’m done with this show whether it’s renewed or not.

On tonight’s “True Blood,” we’re introduced to badass Vampire Authority leader Roman, played by “Oz” vet Chris Meloni, as well as his tech-savvy minion, played by “Veronica Mars” vet and real-life tech geek Tina Majorino.

Tonight’s premieres:


Falling Skies (9pm TNT)


Gator Boys (9pm Animal Planet)


Nightmare Next Door (9pm ID)


Taboo (10pm NGC)

 

Tonight’s other finales:


The Big C (9:30pm Showtime)


The Borgias (10pm Showtime)


The Client List (10pm Lifetime)

Girls (10pm HBO)

 


Head Games (10pm Discovery)

 


My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding (10pm TLC)

 


Mythbusters (9pm Discovery)


Nurse Jackie (9pm Showtime)

 

 

The Tony Awards did not do as well as the MTV Movie Awards.

Sundays April 8-June 10, 2012
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  • June 17, 2012, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Girls is great

    by Monolith_Jones

    It's funny, sad and weird. I'll miss The Killing, this second season is a better than the first.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I really like Girls too!

    by baronweazle

    Was pretty surprised to see Michael Imperioli last week. And the shower sex scene and aftermath between Hannah's parents were some of the funniest scenes I've seen all year! That episode also featured the first writing credit by Judd Appatow in years, that wasn't for one of his own directed films I think.

  • After everyone cried foul over the end of the first season of The Killing, I'm sure that the producers said that the Rosie Larsen case would be wrapped up part-way through the second season with a whole new mystery overlapping with the first investigation. I'm in the UK so I don't know how it actually panned out. Was there a second unrelated murder investigation?

  • June 17, 2012, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Mad timing

    by Himbo

    Part of the ep ( very end at commercial shoot) might have been into June. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE was released June 13, 1967. Though that is date for movie, perhaps not theme song. As for Laynes suicide, Insurance companies will generally pay off suicides provided the policy is greater than two yrs old. Also insurance would likely be purchased by term of yrs, independant of employment status. SCDP would not have gotten around to cancelling policy yet. I qm surprised at how Joan has started to hack me off since she bought in. She has become more arrogant; im

  • June 17, 2012, 5:25 a.m. CST

    Continued

    by Himbo

    Implying she thought Layne hung himself because he couldn't have her.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Gosh, Falling Skies excells at mediocrity and recycled material

    by American Mythos

    It looks like the aliens implanted a chip in Noah Wiley's brain this season, something already done on a much better show, Farscape. I really gave the show a solid chance in season one. A four episode chance, and it sucked too much to keep going. Bad acting, writing, special FX (which could have been made up for if the acting and writing were good), bad show overall. Which sucks, because I wanted to like it. The television landscape needs quality sci-fi shows.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:55 a.m. CST

    herc, you're still watching the killing?

    by JaredP

    i gave up on the show a long time ago

  • Seems like an odd thing to do. I agree with you though, there is a lack of science fiction on TV, but sadly nobody wants to see it. Few sci-fi shows make it past a season or two with most cancelled prematurely. I'd like to see more, and I'd like to have seen more seasons of the ones I've enjoyed but it's simply not popular enough. Anyway, fortunately I've still got Falling Skies to enjoy.

  • June 17, 2012, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Who Killed Rosie Larsen?

    by Titus05

    my guess: Aunt Terry has to be a family member based on the brutal nature of the crime

  • June 17, 2012, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Resignation

    by vanchimera

    He'd written it but hadn't submitted it. Guess that doesn't count.

  • June 17, 2012, 8:29 a.m. CST

    insurance

    by Voice O. Reason

    The insurance policy paying out to the company instead of the individual's family and it covering suicide were both mentioned by Pete in the episode where the guy from the train tries to sell Pete a policy.

  • June 17, 2012, 8:35 a.m. CST

    I disagree with Mad Men season 5 ender not game changing

    by bowtiehoon

    The scene with Don watching the reel of Megan was the game changer. The moment he realized he had to let her go, we got the old Don back. Season 4 ended with a proposal of marriage, season 5 ended with a proposal of divorce (or there abouts)...imho

  • June 17, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Mad Men "game changers"

    by Voice O. Reason

    You forgot, season 2 ended with Sterling Cooper's ownership changing hands and Duck flaming out when he confronted Don, and season 4 ended with Don getting engaged to Megan. Season 1's Dick Whitman storyline concluded with the episode prior to the finale, but the season did end with Peggy giving birth and Betty turning the tables on Don by revealing she knew about his cheating to the psychiatrist. It always seemed to me the season 1 finale felt more like an epilogue than the season's final chapter.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Killing had a great season!

    by MilkFromACow

    This season of "The Killing" has been amazing. I'm not sure why so many people were disenchanted by the giant misdirect at the end of last season, isn't it just a cliffhanger? Doesn't seem any differant than any other show with a cliffhanger. Anyhow, my prediction is that the killer is STILL Mr. Richmond. This particular scenario allows for all major supporting cast to return for next season, if they get one. Although I believe Richmond will be the killer, he will not be the one to go down for it. I suspect possibly Gwen will go down for the murder and it will be revealed that Richmond did it "getting away clean." This will allow season 3's investigation of the mob boss death to keep Stan Larson and his family in the loop, and also provide a connection to finding out the truth about Richmond. Gwen could still be involved, because there would be a trial that Richmond and others could be tied to as well. Of course, Lyndon and Holder would be investigating the mob boss killing, which would eventually lead them to clues about Richmond.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:18 a.m. CST

    A lot of insurance policies WILL payout for suicide deaths...

    by Rebel Scumb

    I work in Insurance, a while not universal with all policies, a lot will payout provided a certain amount of time has passed since activating the policy (usually 2 years). Some do have a suicide clause which would exclude that, and whether this was true in 1967 I have no idea. But I know the policies I work on now all cover suicides after 2 years. This concludes the most boring part of your day.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Can't wait for the final episode of the Killing

    by CrazyJoeDavola

    EVER! I have never rooted harder for a show to be cancelled.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:26 a.m. CST

    I'll give Falling Skies another chance

    by Rob0729

    They have a new show runner and, from the sounds of it, it was Spielberg who was partially responsible for a lot of the problems of the first season. It seems that Spielberg gave the direction that the revelations of the aliens would be a slow build and that the audience wouldn't learn anything about the aliens until the characters did much like he did in Jaws. Unfortunately, that kind of slow build works well in a two hour movie, but not necessarily a TV season unless it is done exceptionally well. I will give the show an episode or two to show that it righted some of the wrongs of the first season.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:31 a.m. CST

    I was kinda underwhelmed by the season premiere of True Blood

    by Rob0729

    I had hopes after an uneven season last year that they have righted the ship, but I have some fears that the show just may be broken. SPOLIERS Everyone has powers now. No one can actually die on the show with Tara coming back as a vampire (I thought the fact that she died and would never come back was the highlight of last year because I hate her) and Russell Edgington coming back (although that is a good thing). There are still too many subplots I couldn't care less about.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Never got back into The Killing

    by Volstaff

    For me, the filler episodes and 1,000,001 red herring "cheats they used last year just pointed to bad, lazy writing.Then the season ender was just the last straw. I didn't even bother with it this year.I'll be happy to check out the news to see who the actual killer was, assuming they actually have the reveal tonight. Tru Blood remains my guilty pleasure I have to admit.The writing and acting is at times so bad and campy it's fun to watch. Where the show fails for me is when it tries to take itself seriously. I'm hoping that with the return of Russell and addition of Chris Meloni is going to equal a fun season. Got my fingers crossed.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:43 a.m. CST

    How does anyone stand Girls?

    by mypalfish

    I've tried to watch a number of episodes, but can't make it through any. Too many gratuitous F bombs (though not as bad as Veep) and scenes that are supposed to be funny but aren't. Do you have to be a hipster to appreciate the show? How does this get renewed and Luck gets cancelled? And Luck was cancelled due to ratings and not the animal deaths.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Is the overuse of the F word just an HBO thing?

    by mypalfish

    One of the eps of girls had two of the annoying characters arguing about being a bad friend. Of course, every sentence had an F bomb being dropped. On Veep, you can't go 10 seconds without an F bomb. Is this just an HBO thing or do Showtime's shows do this, too? Seems like swearing is just a crutch for writers to not actually have to write interesting dialogue. "You're an F'ing bad friend." "No, you are an F'ing bad friend." Just awful...

  • June 17, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST

    mypalfish

    by dukeroberts

    I watch Dexter and Homeland and neither of those shows uses the F word beyond what may be considered reasonable, normal usage.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    F-bombs

    by You Have MY Voice

    Pay cable series on HBO and Showtime use language because other networks can't and they can. They say fuck and shit and cunt because they can. They show tits and ass and fucking because they can. Not necessarily because it's relevant or because it improves a given show, but because they can. And then these shows are considered "edgy" because they curse and fuck and walk around naked. I'm not a prude by any means, but a lack of a censor does not always equal "quality."

  • June 17, 2012, 11:40 a.m. CST

    mypalfish

    by satriales

    The swearing in Veep is toned down significantly from the original British series 'The Thick of It'.

  • June 17, 2012, 12:10 p.m. CST

    And Dexter's fuck count took a dive after Doakes

    by Cartagia

    Though Deb keeps it pretty high.

  • June 17, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Veep's language

    by Halibut

  • June 17, 2012, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Veep's language

    by Halibut

    Bad words are funny: "That's like using a croissant as a fuckin' dildo... It doesn't do the job and it makes a fuckin' mess." More important, other people's reactions to bad words are... well, fuckin' hilarious.

  • June 17, 2012, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Totally agree

    by readyrr

    I think she was used by Ames for the frame job with Richmond. Ames knows that Aunt Terry is responsible for Rosie's murder, and wants nothing to do with her. He's already told her to stay away from him. But back in the Larsen home she's acting like they're still getting back together and buying a house--sign of a nut job! One reservation: I don't think she did it alone...

  • June 17, 2012, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Tara & Trueblood

    by Todd1700

    ("No one can actually die on the show with Tara coming back as a vampire (I thought the fact that she died and would never come back was the highlight of last year because I hate her)") I hear ya. I was so hopeful that they had let her character die. That alone would be a HUGE improvement.

  • June 17, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Game of Thrones Fire and Blood

    by Steve Lamarre

    episode banned from existence due to outrage from conservatives.

  • June 17, 2012, 1:47 p.m. CST

    About Girls

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    It's creepy how many middle aged male critics slobber all over this show yet young women are mostly indifferent to it.

  • June 17, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST

    you_have_my_voice

    by Rebel Scumb

    Yeah that's basically what it comes down to. People complain about the sex on Game of Thrones but it's an overall HBO and cable thing. I think the cable channels know that people expect to see nudity, blood and swearing, and so they want to make sure it's in every episode in case someone who has never seen HBO before is at a friends house and catches five minutes of any given show they will think "oh wow, this is that edgy uncensored HBO I keep hearing about! Maybe I should subscribed"

  • June 17, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST

    I think Rosie's "killer"...

    by scors54

    ...will end up being more than one person, at least in terms of who beat her, then who dumped her in the car to hide it all.

  • June 17, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST

    ?????? freeman_lowell

    by Rebel Scumb

    Banned?? And why would that episode of all episodes be banned even if it was? It probably if anything has less offensive content then most other episodes.

  • June 17, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST

    nevermind just found an article about Bush's head on a spike

    by Rebel Scumb

    that seems like a huge over reaction, especially because even knowing it is supposed to be george bush it's hard to tell in that picture

  • June 17, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    for Virginia slam?

    by Cedric Ford

  • June 17, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Slim

    by Cedric Ford

  • June 17, 2012, 2:48 p.m. CST

    can't wait to see Mad Men in the most turbulent year in America,1968!

    by Cedric Ford

  • June 17, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    How is it possible that this is Mythbusters' season finale?

    by cookepuss

    Including the mailbag special, they've only aired 12 episodes. Except for the first season, they tend to average 22-26 episodes. Mid-season finale maybe? Hope so. Don't want to see them peter out and end just yet, even after 10 seasons.

  • If the next season began with Don and Megan already divorced, would I complain? Nope.

  • June 17, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST

    The problem I have if it's Gwen...

    by Executor

    ...is that she went so balls out vs. her dad in trying to get the search warrant for the casino. Even if it was her key card and she had no idea she lost it up there, someone who is guilty wouldn't try so hard to aid a police investigation. My left field vote is for Gwen's dad, Senator Eaton. With all the big political cover up, it seems like we need a high-powered murderer to justify it, and Alan Dale is great at playing assholes.

  • June 17, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    God I miss Doakes...

    by Billyeveryteen

    I miss most of Showtime actually.

  • June 17, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST

    is anyone else watching Continuum?

    by altoandando

    it should at least get a mention on here...

  • June 17, 2012, 5:02 p.m. CST

    @executor

    by scors54

    I agree--no way it was Gwen or, for that matter, Jamie--it would be ridiculously obvious from everything in the last two episodes and especially the preview, in a how that has , sometimes to a fault, done anything BUT the obvious.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    The Killing

    by SuperXY

    Umm, Am I the only person that saw Jamie in the elevator heading up to the tenth floor where we know the murder took place at the end of last week's episode? More likely than anything would be that all of the people on the tenth floor played a part in the murder and cover-up.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:05 p.m. CST

    altoandando - Continuum

    by Rebel Scumb

    Yeah I've been watching! I thought the pilot was quite strong, episodes 2 & 3 were decent enough, very standard problem of the week type stuff, but the show feels confident and had a lot of stuff set up in the pilot so I feel like things are going to heat up/improve over the season. It sort of reminds me of a show like Fringe that takes a little while to get going, but that there is some bigger stakes that will eventually emerge, especially since her fighting the future-fugitives doesn't feel like it will be the only plot of the show forever since she's managed to kill at least one of them in each episode so far. Hopefully cancerman comes back at some point.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:08 p.m. CST

    And of course the idiots pour out to see True Blood.

    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    Possibly the worst tv show of all time. Literally nothing on that show makes sense. they break plot line at will, and the acting just gets worse every episode.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Mad Men season 5 was the boringest yet. Nothing happened.

    by Jason Bartlett

  • June 17, 2012, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Do you morons ever like anything at all?

    by gruntybear

    I realize that shows with strongly drawn female characters - like Girls, Nurse Jackie and The Big C - are threatening to your teenaged notions of masculinity. But come the fuck on. The Killing has been fantastic the entire time it's been on. Mad Men is infinitely better than ALL of the shitty paint-by-numbers blockbusters that you obsess about on a near daily basis. True Blood is garbage, but knows it's garbage and doesn't take itself even remotely seriously. But you people come here week in and week out to bitch and moan about how bad Sunday night television is. You are all on crack.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:31 p.m. CST

    I like falling skies...

    by ponchobill

    but I am also a giant, fucking retard, too. What do I know?

  • June 17, 2012, 5:36 p.m. CST

    jasonicus

    by theGoldbergV

    Lane's empty office, Peggy's empty desk and Joan's bank account would beg to differ. I think this last season was Mad Men's best. Really firing on all cylinders. Roger's acid trip, Pete feeling more and more isolated, the belated return of Kinsey. Every character ended up in a different place to where they started. Great stuff and that final montage was perfect. Its going to be a long wait for season 6.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST

    I watched all of Falling Skies

    by theGoldbergV

    I'll give it a go again. Its not great by any means but its fun enough. New showrunners this year. If any show has the potential to become great, it has to be a moderate to big budget post apocaylptic alien invasion show with Moon Bloodgood.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:51 p.m. CST

    I hardly found Falling Skies fun

    by Cartagia

    But, there is potential there somewhere. New showrunners might do it maybe?

  • June 17, 2012, 5:51 p.m. CST

    its definently not gwen

    by jsfithaca

    i really think its jaime, but what theyll prolly do is have us think its jamie till the last 5 mins and then itll be somebody else. i still have my money on jaime though cuz i cant see whoo else it could be

  • June 17, 2012, 5:55 p.m. CST

    My money is on Terri being the killer

    by syn_flood

    It makes the most sense.

  • June 17, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Def NOT Jaime because all the evidence points to him

    by Cartagia

    I'm liking the Aunt Terry theory. She followed Ames to the casino, cause she "loves" him. Sees Rosie, think she joined Beau Soleil, and believes she is stealing her man, and kills her in a jealous rage.

  • June 17, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Rebel Scum

    by Steve Lamarre

    Agreed. Huge overreaction by whatever uptight conservatives went in an uproar about it. But also on the part of HBO for giving in so easily. Get your copies of the dvd before they're taken off the shelves.

  • June 17, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST

    DISH Network is dropping AMC and IFC.

    by sundancekeed

    On July 1st. Fuckers.

  • June 17, 2012, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Happy Fathers Day to all of the Fahers out there!

    by Paul

  • June 17, 2012, 6:51 p.m. CST

    I met Fathers!

    by Paul

  • June 17, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST

    I'm excited for Falling Skies

    by Paul

    Its not as great as Lost or Fringe, but its its very fun enertainment during a Summer of crappy reality shows and reruns.

  • June 17, 2012, 7:05 p.m. CST

    If Obama's head was on the stick

    by mypalfish

    The cries of racism would be echoing on every nightly newscast, people connected to the show would be fired, etc. Just happened to have some George W Bush heads sitting around gathering dust, huh? The fact of the matter is that it was purposely done, they bragged about it on the commentary, and HBO had no choice but to apologize. Reminds me of the time Craig Kilborn had the pic of Bush up with the caption "Snipers Wanted." But, no, there's no liberal bias...

  • That's when the commentary came out. It became news NOW, because some over sensitive asshole found out NOW.

  • June 17, 2012, 7:16 p.m. CST

    hanyoyo -- Uh, why watch the promos for falling skies?

    by American Mythos

    Um, because it's a promo, and they show it on like 5 different networks, from TBS to TNT to CNN. I don't exactly go out of my way to watch the 30 second promo -- it's everywhere.

  • June 17, 2012, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Er, make that "Canadian" %&$#@! TINY Apple buttons!

    by obijuanmartinez

  • June 17, 2012, 7:27 p.m. CST

    my palfish

    by Rebel Scumb

    I agree it is needlessly done, and sure an apology makes sense, but pulling all the dvds and banning the episode? You can't even tell its GWB even once you know it is. And so what if there is a liberal bias? HBO is a private company, it's not government sponsored, they aren't under any obligation oblige both ends of the political spectrum, if people don't agree with HBO's politics than they can cancel their subscriptions. The only place where political objectivity needs to be maintained is on news programming (where it isn't anymore anyways, and decidedly right wing in most cases) or in anything that is government funded, which I don't even think the US has in terms of TV programming (I might be wrong though) where as here in Canada or in the UK their are government owned/operated channels

  • June 17, 2012, 7:28 p.m. CST

    no worries obijuan

    by Rebel Scumb

    None of us Cabadian's were offended.

  • I made the mistake of being more specific in a previous talk back, and tragically spoiled Twin Peaks for a couple people (apologies again) so I won't be more specific, but at least from everything I saw of The Killing, it followed the beats of the murder investigation from Twin Peaks pretty closely, just minus all the weird supernatural stuff and 18,000 love triangles

  • June 17, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST

    my palfish...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...and did you hear the apology HBO made? It was like a real apology, the kind of apology people make to each other when they want to impress someone with the sincerity of their words. You know, the sort of apology you give when you aren't a terrible human being. There was no...'we're sorry if anyone was offended'. There was no...'was done in the spirit of good fun but for those who took it another way'. There was no...'others have shown far more obvious and active representations of violence toward President Obama, former speaker Pelosi, Vice President Biden and a host of other Democratic politicians, but we apologize for this one little, inadvertent, severed head'. Nope, they just manned up and apologized. Guess courtesy has a liberal bias these days too.

  • The killer can't be the same, because of the distinct lack of those supernatural elements. Plus, that person is one of the few on the show with an air tight alibi. Steering away from spoilers as best I can as well. And as for GoT... As I said earlier, this has no right to be an issue because of how old it is, for starters. This happened on set like 18 months ago, aired over a year ago, and was on DVD six months ago, and it is just coming up as a problem NOW? And second, I'm going to draw an analogy. People getting made at GoT producers about their politics over this, is about the same as palentologists and Nerf getting mad at Terra Nova because they used re-purposed, re-painted Nerf guns to shoot dinosaurs. They used what they had on hand. Or Star Trek fans getting upset at Halloween because Michael Meyers killed people while wearing a William Shatner mask. Re-TARD-ed.

  • June 17, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Himbo, and let me add my voice...

    by Red Ned Lynch

    ...to those who thought this was maybe the best season of Mad Men yet. Himbo, I disagree about Joan's reaction to Lane's death. When some commits suicide it is the most natural reaction possible to look for the things you might have done to save them. If I only hadn't gotten into that argument...if I'd thought to call that weekend...if I'd answered that email... ...it's part of how we deal. It was Don's reaction I found the most troubling. I was really hoping there might be some kind of breakthrough for him after this, but I suppose if he had that sort of epiphany the show would be pretty much done.

  • June 17, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST

    And I'll agree about Mad Men... Phenomenal season

    by Cartagia

    Best ever? Maybe, but it's probably tied with 1,2,3 and 4.

  • June 17, 2012, 8:02 p.m. CST

    I just wanted to mention I also thought Mad Men was great

    by Rebel Scumb

    It feels cliche say to say it, but it's always great! I was worried after the extra delay between seasons, all the nonsense about getting the new contracts signed, Wiener wanting so much money, all that talk of axing main characters, shoehorning in product placement and whatnot, that this might be the season MM went off the rails, and even if it did their track record is so good with 4 outstanding seasons in the bag already that no one would be able to hold it against them (though I'm sure plenty of bitter joyless Talkbackers would), but nope! Another outstanding season, and yes arguably the best one yet.

  • June 17, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Also, re: George Bush's head on a spike

    by Rebel Scumb

    Does anyone out there really want to stand up for Bush? The guy who started a war which has cost lives and destroyed the American economy and will never be held accountable for it? It's a slow news day indeed when we have to start worrying that some TV writer doesn't think much of GWB.

  • June 17, 2012, 8:35 p.m. CST

    rebel scumb

    by gotilk

    No kidding. Seriously? People are still sticking up for that.... guy? I'm holding back here.

  • Even though I still feel cheated by pretty much half of the 2 seasons combined so far. And why, oh why do I still watch True Blood? Boredom? It's like a soap opera with decent effects. But still.... I keep watching. The mind boggles. It better be a main character that killed Rosie, that's all I know. If it's someone we've never seen, or was seen once... I'll be so pissed. Wow, TV is going to be boring until Breaking Bad returns. Louie is pretty damned good though.

  • June 17, 2012, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Dish is dropping AMC and IFC?

    by gotilk

    Are they retarded? I was considering switching. Not now. Fucking stupid. Didn't they just finally get AMC in HD?? After all this time? WTF?? Makes a guy want to unplug it all and just use the bay. But I'll keep letting DirecTV butt fuck me.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Wow...

    by scors54

    That was actually a pretty damned good finale for "The Killing". A very well done second season.

  • Instead of episode after episode of Sookie and Tara crying on each others shoulder.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Did any of the Bush defending wackos even watch the commentary?

    by Adelai Niska

    The creators, sounding very bored, interrupt a discussion of sansa's hairstyle to say *if you didn't notice, back up and you'll see George Bush's head on the left. His head appears in a couple of beheading scenes. it's not our choice, it's not a political statement, we just had to use whatever heads we had.* THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. They say this on the commentary where they pointed it out, MONTHS AGO. Before HBO forced an apology, before anyone noticed it, they were already saying 'hey, this is neat trivia, but it's not meant to be offensive.' And most of the people fanning the flames are clearly ultra-right-wingers who claim they don't care about political correctness and aren't offended... and then use the old 'But if it was Obama, you lefties would go ca-razie!' excuse to justify their outrage. Wouldn't want to admit that you're all just having a temper tantrum to justify your constant bitching about "leftist media."

  • June 17, 2012, 9:44 p.m. CST

    ...and Mitch actually HUGS her!

    by TopHat

    "Mitch" has to go down as one of the most WORTHLESS people ever to be portrayed on a television show. Thus, the effect of female producers.

  • June 17, 2012, 9:59 p.m. CST

    "They used what they had on hand" lol

    by mypalfish

    C'mon, they just happened to have President Bush's head and no other heads were available?!?! That explanation defies credulity. Man-up, say you suffer from a severe case of BDS, took a political potshot, and be done with it. It will be interesting to see if there is any fallout in the ratings next year. I'd guess GOT has a pretty equal split between liberals and conservatives who enjoy the show, unlike something like Girls or the upcoming Newsroom, which will be a liberal's wet dream.

  • Also I love how it took this long for anyone to watch the commentaries.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:11 p.m. CST

    I remember when "True Blood"...

    by Oldnewbie

    ...was the talk of the Talk back. Or had it's own before the Talk Back consolidation began. Now it barely gets a mention. I agree 100% with the posters who said Tara coming back has ruined the show past what it has already been ruined by (IMO soap opera side stories). If NO ONE can die, I mean even if they are already really dead (I could see a vamp healing Tara but not bringing her back) then all sense of dramatic tension has been forever lost. Soon we'll find out the "True death" of a vampire can somehow be undone! I watch out of habit... and I do like Anna so... lol. But those are crappy reasons to watch a once quality show.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST

    The Borgias - the best show I have seen in years...

    by cozy

    Too bad it's so over the head of 99% of plebes on this site.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:13 p.m. CST

    It's already been sorta implied that the "true death" can somehow be undone

    by heylookoverthere

    Maybe Russel was just crazy, but wasn't he carrying around that jar of jello-ish blood somehow hoping to revive his boyfriend?

  • June 17, 2012, 10:15 p.m. CST

    I would guess the head was lying around along with others

    by gumbyandpokey

    And they purposely used the George W Bush one as a "liberal sucker punch." To believe that the ONLY head available was one of the President is wishfully naive.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:19 p.m. CST

    GoT fans, what other beheading scenes was the bush head used in?

    by heylookoverthere

    I mean...they only pulled that one episode, but in the commentaries they (apparently, haven't listened myself.) say it was used in a couple beheading scenes.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:33 p.m. CST

    This Bush head conspiracy theory makes no sense

    by Wolverine's Dad

    Why would they go out of their way to hide a George Bush head in this scene and then point it out in a commentary for no reason? The official line is at least, you know, logical: "We use a lot of prosthetic body parts on the show: heads, arms, etc. We can't afford to have these all made from scratch, especially in scenes where we need a lot of them, so we rent them in bulk. After the scene was already shot, someone pointed out that one of the heads looked like George W. Bush."

  • June 17, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST

    I liked that Mitch hugged her

    by Fico

    It was unexpected, and it still felt real. Mitch has flaws, yeah, just like every other character on the show. That's what saved it for me.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:50 p.m. CST

    And hearing Rosie's screams from the car

    by Fico

    Wow. That was not pleasant.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:53 p.m. CST

    To Quote a Classic Movie, Wolverine's Dad...

    by Aquatarkusman

    ... forget it, Jake, it's Dumbshittown.

  • Then you just don't get the show. It's not for you. Move along. Hate to sound like a snob, but it's the truth.

  • Yes, that was one of the best seasons of Mad Men. Lots of moments hit me. Yeah, when Lane broke his glasses. * When Don stopped the Beatles record. * When Pete said "I thought we were supposed to be friends." * When Pete felt everything slip away in driver's ed when "Handsome" showed up. * "Zou Bisou Bisou." * Don strangling the gal from Twin Peaks. * The guy from Twin Peaks telling Don that they'll "bury his desk with awards but they'll never hire you." * Ken and the awkward discussion of the science fiction story at Pete's. * Trudy cornering Don into coming to dinner. * Joan's flinch at the Jaguar man when he reaches over to undo her dress. "I'll do it." * Joan pretending to be Mrs. Don Draper at the Jaguar dealership. * Megan spitefully shoveling orange sherbet into her mouth. I could go on for a while here, but you get the point. This was a great season of a great tv show.

  • June 18, 2012, 12:14 a.m. CST

    @therawbeatsdotcom - So who killed the girl?

    by V'Shael

    You don't actually think they revealed it in this episode, do you? Oh Charlie Brown... Lucy will always pull the ball away.

  • June 18, 2012, 12:50 a.m. CST

    If you must know...

    by Truxton Spangler

    Terri was the one who actually killed Rosie, but wasn't aware of it at the time. After Betty Draper's brother (aka Jamie) caught Rosie in the casino, he smacked her around, and stuffed her in the trunk, thinking she was dead. Then, he and Ames (who was picked up by Terri) met at the lake, to figure out what to do next. Ames wanted no part of it, and in doing so, blurted out that he was no longer going to leave his wife and run off with Terri. Hearing this, she got out of her car (in the semi-catatonic state that seems to be a primary trait in her family) got into the campaign car with Rosie in the trunk, put it in gear, then allowed it roll into the lake.

  • June 18, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST

    My Favorite Mad Men Scene

    by wrath 4771

    Is where Don Draper is listening to "Tomorrow Never Knows" and he gives up on the song. Brilliant.

  • June 18, 2012, 1 a.m. CST

    And...

    by Truxton Spangler

    I know many can't resist the "X is better than Y" comparisons that are the lifeblood of these TBs, but with regard to Mad Men S5, I'll just say that the thing that was disappointing this season was the loss of some subtlety to the storytelling. And though Falling Skies isn't going to win an awards, it still makes for summer fun, when little else is on.

  • June 18, 2012, 1:08 a.m. CST

    The Killing... wow

    by ufoclub1977

    I thought it was a powerful ending if you've kept up with the show. It was an epic multi character conclusion, and then the very end had that kind of great sentimental 70's mood. You know, like the ending shots of the Exorcist after everything is back to normal. I liked it a lot.

  • June 18, 2012, 1:26 a.m. CST

    We all really know who killed Rosie Larsen...

    by natecore

    Lebron James.

  • June 18, 2012, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Richmond

    by Doggus47

    I liked how they tied up almost everything, but I don't get why Richmond got into bed with the Indians & Ames at the end. Did he decide to not squander Jamie's "gift"? I'm fine with the show ending now or coming back.

  • June 18, 2012, 3:18 a.m. CST

    HERC ...no final thoughts on THE KILLING or GIRLS?

    by TopHat

    Chicken.

  • June 18, 2012, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Spoil the Killing

    by Jonathan

    So... I was one of the people who got burned from Season 1 of the killing (after being one of the show's biggest cheerleaders). I'm never going to watch Season 2, but I read the wiki for it and... the aunt is the one to unintentionally killed her? What is with Stan not being the father? Does that even matter to the story in the end?

  • June 18, 2012, 6:33 a.m. CST

    The Killing ended well SPOILERS

    by Monolith_Jones

    To be honest the whole resolution with Jamie would have had been disappointing if that was all there was. The sister unknowingly being her niece's actual killer was a good twist. What I didn't quite get was how it ended with Linden and Holder. It sounded like they were ready to start a new case and then Linden got out of the car, is she leaving for good?

  • June 18, 2012, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Girls ended nicely also

    by Monolith_Jones

    The wedding was a WTF moment but Hannah is back where she started, alone, insecure, and probably already writing essays in her head about everything. It seems like she wants her experiences strictly as fodder for her writing, but will bail if things get too "real".

  • June 18, 2012, 8:36 a.m. CST

    The Killing Spoilers

    by Wcwlkr

    I will say the Aunt unintentionally killing her was decent. Hearing the screams from the trunk was a gut wrenching touch. But Richmond becoming a douchebag so soon into his canidacy seemed a little out of touch with who he was becoming. I mean each time you thought he would let his ideals go away when it would suit him best he dug in. Then to just say yeah as horrible as what my campaign manager did I'll do the evil he wanted to do, by getting in bed with these evil pricks. That was a bit disappointing. I'm cool if they do bring it back minus Linden, and cool if that was the end.

  • June 18, 2012, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Killing unanswered questions

    by KoolerThanJesus

    So there are just a few questions to me that linger. 1. The biggest one is why was Linden so afraid of her ex-husband. I don't remember this ever coming up, but that women had a deadly fear of him. 2. How did Jamie get Rosie's unconscious body out of the casino? I assume the chief helped, but there should have been some nice throwaway line there.

  • It just wasn't funny to me, I kept waiting is this supposed to be funny. Because it really just sucked. Veep I did find the episode where she ended up shitting herself pretty funny but outside of that I strongly disliked it.

  • Those 3 shows now stand head & shoulders above the rest. True Blood lost me last season, when the most annoying character is your lead it's hard to sustain that show. I said I'd give this season 2 episodes, but after the first 10 min of the first I was like uh not feeling this.

  • June 18, 2012, 8:40 a.m. CST

    The Killing is done

    by Laserhead

    That's it for that show. Cancelled by AMC. They could maybe sell it to Dish network or something, but that would allow the two leads to exit, which they'd do in a heartbeat.

  • June 18, 2012, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Not as enthused for Boardwalk without Jimmy

    by gumbyandpokey

    Without Jimmy, the show really loses a lot, imo. And even Jimmy's wife was important as a friend to the Phantom. Their scene together when she was sketching him was terrific. Now we'll just get more annoying Kelly MacDonald and her annoying accent.

  • burying his son.

  • June 18, 2012, 10:33 a.m. CST

    I'm MORE excited for Boardwalk without Jimmy

    by Laserhead

    Pitt's blank-faced emo tough-guy was one of the real weak links, and bringing his story to an organic, tragic end was one of the best choices the show's made; while keeping Richard Harrow and Jimmy's mother in play (along with William Forsyth and 'handsome young Irish guy'). Finally, now, maybe the show can start to realize its potential.

  • June 18, 2012, 11:38 a.m. CST

    The Borgias - what now?

    by cozy

    What an awesome payoff. Now that's how you structure a series. The whole season was a build up to the Pope's poisoning. I wasn't sure they would actually do it - but they did. Wow, that's a cliff hanger - but it's hard to come back to life after being poisoned.

  • Alexander did not die of poisoning in reality. And they didn't really make him look definitively dead...just in the process of dying...and he just sipped some while the cupbearer downed a whole cup....that said, it was a very cool how it kinda mirrors The Godfather with the hit on Alexander being like Vito Corleone and Cesare being like Michael Corleone in that he is a much more shrewd family head than Alexander. We shall see what happens. Didn't you think everything from them discovering Juan's body was some of the best work of the series thus far?

  • June 18, 2012, 12:04 p.m. CST

    GIRLS was iffy at the start, but...

    by Jason

    ...once they started featuring Adam as a regular character it took off. That character is hi-larious. Also, what other show is going to cameo Mike Birbiglia? It might be a hipster thing, but I enjoyed it. And VEEP is strong too. Really can't believe that in this day and age there are still adults who can't handle the F word. Fucking grow up.

  • June 18, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Adam is funny on Girls but the best supporting character is...

    by Monolith_Jones

    Shoshanna! Her crackcident is already classic.

  • June 18, 2012, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Watched every episode of The Killing, always enjoyed it.

    by Saracen1

    It's about more than just "who killed Rosie Larsen". It's about the ripples that her death sent through each and every character, and how it changed their lives. Stan's best friend is dead. Stan nearly goes bankrupt and is now facing a lengthy prison sentence. Mitch becomes depressed. Danny has anger issues with his family and at school. Richmond has won the election, but is wheelchair bound for the rest of his life. He watched his own campaign director commit suicide-by-cop. A crime lord is dead. Linden practically loses custody of her son, loses her fiancee, and damn near loses her sanity again... I could go on and on. It's a drama about what happens to the characters who had some connection with Rosie and how they deal with it. And damn near every actor's performance is fantastic. I was compelled to watch it every week. If all you care about is "who killed Rosie Larsen" then this show is lost on you. CSI is that way.

  • June 18, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Watched first ep of TRUE BLOOD and honestly

    by BenBraddock

    ... I think I'm done. Honestly, I can't be bothered watching it anymore. How did such a promising show get so bad?

  • June 18, 2012, 2:06 p.m. CST

    saracen1

    by jsfithaca

    completely agree about the killing. it may not be the best show ever but it definently made me wanna watch every week, moreso for the characters than the plot

  • June 18, 2012, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Bush head

    by MegaBeth

    I believe the GOT producers. I don't think it was some political statement. And I don't really understand the alleged "outrage" from Conservatives. However it is dishonest to state Liberals wouldn't have jumped out of their skulls if something similiar had happened to their personal saviour, Obama. I am also amused by some of the peace loving liberals on here hoping for Bush and Cheney's heads to be placed on spikes. Yep.. Conservatives and Liberals are ALL made from the same cloth. You just wear different uniforms.

  • June 18, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    The Killing

    by MegaBeth

    I watched the first four episodes of the first Season. It just didn't interest me any longer. I didn't care who killed Rosie Larson and I ended up hating her family. Very depressing and snooze worthy fare.

  • June 18, 2012, 3:50 p.m. CST

    I hate that after twenty-something episodes of The Killing...

    by Executor

    ...the villains resort to final-act Columbo-Mentalist shenanigans of being confronted with one small bit of evidence and turning into raging confession-aholics. Lawyer up and shut the fuck up like Ames. Have the cops who worked so hard the entire season actually do something besides listen in the final episodes (and shoot someone offscreen in a poorly directed finale for one of the killers). Ugh. p.s. and looking back...why was there such a departmental conspiracy to stop the investigation? Doesn't really make sense in hindsight considering who the killers were. The Mayor was trying to protect his waterfront, but really does that explain it all? I dunno.

  • June 18, 2012, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Mitch hugging her sister...

    by McSatan

    ...I took it to be an unconscious thing. She was utterly stunned and unaware of what was happening, that's how I took it. I thought The Killing was decent and had a solid wrap-up but took way too many detours to get there. I'm cool if it is over, too.

  • June 18, 2012, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Question for Mad Men viewers

    by severianx1

    Like to get some opinions on this. Do you think Don got Megan the part in the commercial because he thought she was good, or because he thought she sucked?

  • June 18, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Vampires, just like werewolves and xenomorphs, just aren't scary anymore.

    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    We have countless movies over the past 20 years that have turned this mini genre into a toothless whining granny. The only way to change that is for Hollywood to ignore the character for about fifty years until they re-adapt Salems Lot.

  • June 18, 2012, 5:43 p.m. CST

    severlanx1

    by theGoldbergV

    I think Don got her the commercial because it was easier. He realised that she could do it, but more importantly it benefits him and allows him to become the Don Draper of old (as we saw at the end). So he must have thought she was good in some respect, but I don't think he was blown away by her talent or anything.

  • June 18, 2012, 6:32 p.m. CST

    True Blood

    by warren bishop

    @danielnocharismacraig: I've never regarded 'True Blood' as a genuinely frightening or supernatural show. I think it's best viewed as a comedy that has supernatural elements and gorgeous women ('Jessica', 'Salome', 'Nora'). True Blood is a campy, cheesy show with ridiculously good-looking women, don't ask for anything else out of it - or you'll be disappointed. It would be nice if there was some Hollywood-wide moratorium issued on vampires, werewolves etc. They've been overused, done to death. P.S. There was one genuinely scary moment on 'True Blood', where Sookie is being chased by the horned form of the maenad. That 30 seconds was it.

  • June 18, 2012, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Falling Skies

    by warren bishop

    I watched the second season premiere. I've tried watching this show at least a half dozen times, and it's just not very compelling or engrossing. Any time it seems like there might actually be some narrative momentum, they have to stop for yet another teary reunion scene or the main character or one of his kids have to profess their undying love for one another. I don't mind that every once in awhile (even BSG did that) but several times every damn episode? Spielberg seems incapable of being involved in anything that isn't dripping with sentimentality. I love good tv, have fairly eclectic tastes, love sci-fi, but I just can't watch this show. Who is watching it?

  • June 18, 2012, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Megan getting the part

    by paulloch

    had nothing to do with how good she was. Don saw her as truly happy, and he couldn't bear taking that away from her. He's letting her go, like Peggy, to follow her path in life, away from Don. This has to do, not with any deep enlightenment, but his paternal view. Each woman he looks at, he sees a version of Sally. (Like the girl at the Rolling Stones concert) So, he can't mistreat women anymore.

  • June 18, 2012, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Yeah warrenbishop, but the problem is that True Blood has never been funny.

    by DanielnocharismaCraig

    You know what's funny? Rambo taking on the whole Soviet Army during Rambo III. That's funny. There is a thin line between it's so stupid it's funny and just plain stupid. Ask Tommy Wiseau. Actually don't ask him, ask Sylvester Stallone.

  • June 18, 2012, 8:21 p.m. CST

    I reall enjoyed Falling Skies last night

    by Paul

    It was good to finally see the leadership of the aliens, I wonder if we get more scenes with them planning, etc in the future. Its interesting that pretty much all of the advantags they gained in season one the Aliens have figured out a way around them exept for the mech bullets. Should be intereseting to see what they do with the airport. Speaking of that I've never seen the Walking Dead, but think that I have a good idea o the show from these talkback and hile watching got a total Walking Dead vibe, both seem similar with Dead the people are infected and with turn when they die with Falling Skies the kids are captures and a host is attatched and its only a matter of time before they turn to aliens. Also with Dead they were in the big city in season 1, the farm in season 2 and a jail in season 3. With Falling Season 1 was at a school and season 2 an airport. Anyways I just got that connection last night.

  • to end up with a twist that felt forced. Maybe it would work better if I re-watched the whole series on DVD/Blu in one big marathon viewing? As of now it just doesn't work for me. They drew it out too long I think. I also don't buy Terry doing that. She may be depressed and desperate to start a new life, but I still don't buy her doing that.

  • June 18, 2012, 9:09 p.m. CST

    @lv_426

    by scors54

    You don't buy a desperate Terri doing that to someone she believed to be a stranger? Google Susan Smith--desperate and depressed people are capable of WAY worse, in real life. I buy it completely.

  • June 18, 2012, 10:17 p.m. CST

    severlanx1: Definitely not because he thought she sucked.

    by Greggers

    You ever look at q picture of an old lover, and for a moment you remember what you loved about them and even fall in love with them a little bit all over again? For me, whtat's what happens with Don in that scene. Look at his face. Whether she was good or bad, she was a joy to look at. He did it out of love. (Or in the words of Peter Cetera, he did all for the glory of love.) (I figure there's only three people still reading this talkback who got that joke.)

  • but it still just doesn't feel earned in this show. I just don't buy it. And as executor mentioned above in the talkback. Linden and Holder just sort of stumbled upon it at the end there when Linden noticed the busted rear tail light. It isn't that it might have been something that happened in real life and they used that as a basis for the final twist. No, to me it just wasn't dramatically satisfying. The acting in the scene was good, just not the actual final beats of the story.

  • June 19, 2012, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Fallen Skies was awesome.

    by Norman Colson

    The potential for the show was amazing. but it's too much cgi. The mechs could be amazing if they made them animatronics and practical fx. Too much cgi for me makes it look fake... I also liked that the aliens looking at the resistance as a threat. but the story is far from over, and the aliens still have powerful weaponry. Also remember even if the aliens loose what happens if the motherships come back????

  • June 19, 2012, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Falling Skies has gotten MUCH better

    by happybunni

    I wonder how much staff changes there were. The dialogue seems to be a lot better. I know the acting is better for sure, they killed off the character that were horrible except for the little kid... But one is fine.

  • June 20, 2012, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Falling Skies Tries to hard to be The Walking Dead.

    by django_il_bastardo

    Even has it's own talk show!

  • June 22, 2012, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Good thing about the aliens in Falling Skies is

    by quintana007

    they spared all the hot chicks so they could join resistance