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Paramount Shuts Down NINJA TURTLES For The Time Being!!

Published at: June 15, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST by The Kidd

The Kidd here...

The heroes on the half shell are getting put on the shelf indefinitely. 

Paramount has pulled the plug on the Jonathan Liebesman-helmed reboot of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, pushing its release back indefinitely... and, no, it's not for 3D post-conversion and/or more Channing Tatum.

The Hollywood Reporter reports that Paramount, already gun shy with the delays the studio is facing with G.I. JOE: RETALIATION and WORLD WAR Z, is willing to take its time with NINJA TURTLES in order to iron out what it feels are script problems. Rather than rush it out there in order to make its December 2013 release date and potentially damage the future of the franchise with a poor showing, Paramount is learning their lesson of putting forth a subpar product that may come back to bite them in the ass later. Better late than never. 

In the meantime, Platinum Dunes will have to chill with the reboot, and, once the script is ready to go, NINJA TURTLES will move forward again... but when that will be is right now anyone's guess.

 

-Billy Donnelly

"The Infamous Billy The Kidd"

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  • June 15, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Well then

    by Party_Animal_IV

    Well then

  • June 15, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST

    OH NO!!!!!

    by clancy021061

    That does it. I am going to write a letter!

  • June 15, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay is not amused

    by John Brown

  • June 15, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Moved to May 16, 2014

    by tomandshell

  • June 15, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Good. They should have done the same thing with PROMETHEUS

    by Logan_1973

    They should have postponed PROMETHEUS long enough to fix the script and close the numerous gaps. But I guess they were in a rush before Sir Ridley croaks. Dude is no spring chicken.

  • June 15, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Shucks!

    by Keith Small

    No - not really!

  • June 15, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Perhaps there is hope for Hollywood.

    by Jarrete Barnett

    Maybe. Besides, what are "script problems"? Could it be the whole "alien" thing, maybe... ?

  • June 15, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST

    time being will turn into forever

    by Jackson

  • June 15, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Gonna be happy when people are done complaining about Prometheus

    by Harry Palmerlime

    Unprovoked complaints, no less. YAWN!

  • June 15, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Paramount finally told Michael Bay to 'Chill'.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • June 15, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    How terrible!

    by Mickster_Island

    How terrible, that is, that there's nobody around to give a shit.

  • June 15, 2012, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Good!

    by Lummox JR

    The idea of the turtles being aliens was simply inexcusable. If they're rebuilding the script from the ground up to remove that garbage, there's hope.

  • June 15, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST

    TURTLE POWER!

    by rakesh patel

    These turtles are teenagers right? Who exactly do they fuck? I mean there's not exactly a whole load of 6 foot female turtles around. They're not going to fuck splinter. they maybe want to fuck april, but i don't think she'd want to fuck those turtle boys Even if she did, all four would be a bit much. There's only so much ninja fighting and pizza eating these turtles can do. Could they even give themselves a wank cause traditionally turtles have teeny arms and legs.

  • June 15, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Not seeing it anyway.

    by Yelsaeb

    That is all.

  • June 15, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Wait, what?

    by MrWug

    They're concerned about the quality of the product they're producing? Wow. I'm impressed.

  • Check it- so we all know the Turtles are what they are because of the 'ooze' that they came in contact with in the sewers, right? Get this, what if, the ooze was... the BLACK, PROMETHEUS OOZE? Yeah! The Engineers make a homebase under NYC, and mistakenly, spill some of that ooze into the sewer system, creating the NINJA TURTLES!!! It would be the most epic, BADASS crossover in history! Imagine- the Turtles squaring off against the Xenomorph hordes in the subways and sewers, EPIC boss battles with Aliens Queens and Engineer Warriors. Shit, you could even throw in the Predators into the mix for an all-out mutant/alien WAR! My God... it'll be beautiful. Moomba Has Spoken!

  • June 15, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Do people still care for Ninja Turtles

    by D o o d

    I'm not being flippant. Is there really interest out there..? I've never been a fan of the series or the characters. Never really seen the appeal, so I'm confused!

  • June 15, 2012, 3 p.m. CST

    Promethius complaints are valid

    by D o o d

    it looked nice but the script was total shit!

  • June 15, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Turtles is one franchise that could benefit from a darker, edgier version.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • Really making films while still deciding on the story is just plain stupid. They have money to burn.

  • June 15, 2012, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Order pizza

    by Kevin

  • Not everybody hated the movie, move on

  • June 15, 2012, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Mr_X: They nail giant tortoises at the zoo

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Not like they can run away.

  • June 15, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Agree with Elsewhere

    by Chris

    The first is the quintessential version, grew up on that movie, along with the cartoon. I have less enthusiasm for 2 and 3

  • June 15, 2012, 3:29 p.m. CST

    The orginal turtle movie is great

    by eric haislar

    Dark and yet funny and has some great action. Everything else even the CGI one has never been better then the original.

  • June 15, 2012, 3:30 p.m. CST

    After Bay's Transformers and Liebsman's Battle:LA...

    by Adelai Niska

    we can all imagine wha this movie would be: giant clunky, angular robots invading new york, and then somewhere half-way through the movie some turtles mutate and become ninjas for no reason. In other words, we all knew this would be shit.

  • June 15, 2012, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Did Hell just freeze over?!

    by Kremzeek

    I'm not really even a big Turtles fan. They never clicked completely for me like Transformers or the Joes did back in the day. But, regardless, I *never* thought I'd see anything like this ever again. The way Hollywood is run now, I didn't think *anyone* knew WTF to do anymore. Good show, Paramount! Nice move - and, if the Hollywood Reporter is to be believed, for good reason! As Kidd said "Better late than never". Indeed. ...Now, maybe Bay's crew will be fired and/or dropout (one can dream, right?).

  • Running in slow motion as splosions go off around them.

  • June 15, 2012, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Racist Alien Big-Boobied Explosions

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Thank you, Nostalgia Critic...

  • June 15, 2012, 3:40 p.m. CST

    I loved Prometheus..

    by Steve Smith

    ...but you've got to be shitting me if you think that movie was flawless, or that a lot of the common criticisms were invalid. Call a spade a spade and move on. Some of the backlash was overblown because of hype and unrealistic expectations, but they were still watching the same movie we were.

  • June 15, 2012, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Ninja Turtle was my fav as a kid

    by james

    saw the movie in theatres when I was 3 and I actually remember it. Earliest memory. That said, this movie seemed to be a dud before it began. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a strange premise, but the tone of the first movie I think is was made it work. The sequels never recaptured that.

  • June 15, 2012, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Wait, with Bay involved they suddenly care about a script?

    by Heresy

  • and that's a fact.

  • June 15, 2012, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Thank God

    by Phategod2

    hopefully someone will comepletely buy the rights.

  • June 15, 2012, 4:07 p.m. CST

    THANK GODDDD

    by Josh

    Hollywood is getting smart now stop remaking movies that don't need to be remade and focus on remaking shitty ones. :)

  • Script problems? For a film about anthropomorphic kung fu tortoises who eat pizza? It makes you glad Paramount isn't trying to develop a sophisticated cinematic epic for an adult audience any time soon.

  • June 15, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST

    TMNT on hold, but Short Circuit remake marches on.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • June 15, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Whoa... bummer, dude

    by Triple_J_72

    Just keeping with the theme here... heh.

  • June 15, 2012, 4:39 p.m. CST

    brightgeist

    by beatitudesputnik

    "complaining about PROMETHEUS = outing oneself as someone who didn't get the movie" No I got it. It was shooting for great movie. And it failed. Miserably. At being a great movie. It's a good movie. It's a magnificent visual spectacle. And the story is fucking garbage. So it all evens out.

  • June 15, 2012, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Why do people always talk down about the Turtles?

    by wcolbert

    As if the Transformers show or films had any sort of depth or meaning to them. Please. Climb off the high horse, please. The Turtles have actually had some pretty darned well written and compelling stories (and I'm not talking about the 80's kiddy cartoon - the 2k3 show was exponentially better in every way - and much darker in tone)...so I fail to see why people act as if it's all silly cotton candy fluff just because the heroes happen to be humanoid turtles. Oh yeah, because that's what's ridiculous. Not giant talking robots from a robot planet. Not super powered aliens flying around with their underwear on the outside. Not child wizards, or even humans mutated into animal-like creatures (X-Men) ..no no no, only mutated TURTLES are absurd. Just saying. Movies are friggin silly by and large. Doesnt mean they deserve to be taken any less seriously than the next one.

  • June 15, 2012, 4:50 p.m. CST

    I guess the script didn't have enough explosions.

    by F-18

  • Once they've told Bay to fuck off and leave the backstory alone the film should come along fine.

  • They swore. They drank beer. They KILLED people. In other words, they were dangerous bad asses. Not watered down kiddie cartoon bullshit. Put those turtles on film and I'll see it.

  • June 15, 2012, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Oh Really...

    by The_Smirking_Revenge

    Paramount? Script Problems, you say? Maybe thats cause you turned them into fucking Aliens which was so goddamned stupid. You want an awsome Turtles movie. Take the first few books, hand 'em on over to Robert Rodriguez, and let him and Tarantino have a crack at it. Shoot the fucker all Sin City-like and make it ultra violent and comical. You've just made money...

  • June 15, 2012, 7:25 p.m. CST

    mr_x_ Grow up you dumb, immature cunt!

    by HanYoYo

    Seriously, are not the usual immature and dumb comments enough without juventile pathetic comments like yours!?? If you find yourself genuinely asking such stupid questions when you watch other films, perhaps it's time you considered an early exit, from life! Do the world a favour you brainless cunt.

  • June 15, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST

    "Paramount is learning......"

    by Christian Sylvain

    Because money is the only thing they seem to comprehend. When they're revenues start diminishing, the studio heads heads have no other choice but to start giving a shit about the films they're working on. Greedy bastards.

  • June 15, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Ninja Turtles is an awesome concept...

    by Aquanaut

    i love the premise of the turtles. i've always had a fondness for anthropomorphic mutant animals. it's why i love stories like the island of dr. moreau, the fly, thundercats, and more recent properties like hip flask and sweet tooth. then there's the sweet irony of creatures known for their slow speed becoming ninjas- notorious for their speed and agility. honestly, as far as popular properties go, it's one of the most unique and iconic blend of ingredients to enter comics since superman. i'm cautiously optimistic. i can't stand bay...but we'll see how this turns out. i loved the original movie as a kid, but it leaves a lot of room for improvement. for one, it was hard to buy that these guys were ninjas, when the actors could barely move in the suits. don't get me wrong, i know they did their best. plus, you know you're doing something wrong when the most believable performances in your film are coming from overdubbed actors in puppet suits, with the exception of maybe elias koteas and the guy playing shredder. and i think the alien origins angle was only being applied to the ooze, which is true to the comics. as far as who the turtles are screwing as someone brought up earlier...well, aside from any fanboy notions of the turtles hooking up with april, the turtles, despite their heroics are essentially monsters. i think raphael is the most sensitive to this fact, which is why he's so angry all the time. while the others distract themselves with their work (or hedonism in mikey's case) he knows that no matter what they do for humans, that they will still be freaks of nature and therefor, alone.

  • June 15, 2012, 7:39 p.m. CST

    To all fucktards who defend the Prometheus script... You are fucktards.

    by AnarchyWorldsEnd

    That is all :-)

  • HAHAHA... no, probably not. No matter what we're going to end up with little kid claptrap and "cowabunga" nonsense from the horrible cartoons for children instead... so who cares about these movies anyway?

  • She was sexy. There are several awesome stories from the Eastman and Laird comics they could do. The most logical would be the TCRI/Space travel storyline. The Lord Simultaneous stuff would also be cool, though that would maybe work better for a sequel.

  • June 15, 2012, 9:04 p.m. CST

    paramount should shut down star trek

    by animas

    if they actually gave a shit about "script issues"

  • June 15, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST

    What? You mean script problems like...

    by Jaka

    ....not calling them Teenage Mutant and changing their origin? Der.

  • June 15, 2012, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Someone must have seen Wrath of Titans

    by Ash Talon

    Battle: LA was a rather uninspired movie. But Wrath of Titans was offensively bad. Someone at Paramount must have finally gotten around to seeing it and pulled the plug on this film. <p> Regarding the "alien origin" of the Turtles. You guys all remember that the toxic cannister that mutated the turtles came from a company that was a front of aliens, right? In essence, the goo was of alien origin. You would know this if you actually had read the original, early Turtle comics. So stop complaining about their origins changing. As far as we know (can't believe I'm defending Bay), this new movie might have just dealt with that alien presence in NY story.

  • June 16, 2012, 12:29 a.m. CST

    the good news

    by aicnball

    is you still have the new series that Nickelodeon has as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: A New Mutation is set to launch this fall and they have some rather big names doing voices, they have sean astin as Rapheal, Jason Biggs as Leo, Kelly Hu as Karrai and Mae Whitman as April, and another notable is for those who watch Futurama Phil Lamar as Dr. Baxter Stockman. So if you want a turtle fix you have this series set to launch about early September, and I can't wait as Nickelodeon has done a good job with Voltron Force, so maybe if Bay sees the cartoon series, he at least puts the Mutant Ninja back in the Turtles

  • June 16, 2012, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Will we get ridiculously over-rendered CGI Turtles?

    by Jobacca

    Who form into super giant mecha turtle and then dangle their giant CGI turtle balls all over John Turturro's face? And can we replace April O'Neil with Shia Labeuf?

  • June 16, 2012, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Bay was making them aliens. HE SAID SO.

    by Chief Joseph

    Bay flat out said that they were going to be from an alien race. When pressed on it, he only said, "Chill." His flunkies danced around the question when they were asked. All they had to do to kill the "nerd rage" was to say, "We can't say much about this new film, but we assure you that the Turtles will be mutants and NOT aliens." But this probably has little to do with that. This probably has more to do with Battleship flopping.

  • June 16, 2012, 4:43 a.m. CST

    Where's Michael Bays Diff'rent Strokes remake?

    by MajorFrontbum

  • June 16, 2012, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Heroes ON a half shell?

    by my liege

  • June 16, 2012, 5:58 a.m. CST

    LOL at taking Transformers seriously...

    by master_of_realty

    but Ninja Turtles is childish and stupid.

  • June 16, 2012, 8:11 a.m. CST

    @hanyoyo

    by rakesh patel

    My apologies I should have been more respectful about teenage / alien / mutant turtles subject matter. And yes i generally ask stupid questions when I watch other insipid films. Thanks for asking.

  • June 16, 2012, 8:32 a.m. CST

    The turtles being aliens is a much more logical origin

    by misnomer

    than having a rat learn kung-fu. The turtles origin story was always weak. As for Prometheus, I couldn't stand the thing. Yes, it's rich with symbolism and leaves you with lots of questions, but if fails as a horror film and it fails as a lofty, thought-provoking sci-fi.

  • June 16, 2012, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay.

    by Cruizer Dave

  • June 16, 2012, 9:53 a.m. CST

    It's TMNT, not Keroro Gunso/Sgt Frog

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    Although that would make a decent movie if they didn't go too teeny-bopper with it. Still not wasting hope on this movie, but considering how in a non-movie year I got the Ralph cosplay pjs I'm wearing as I type, the merchandise that year will be huge and be sure to include some more retro stuff.

  • June 16, 2012, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Ninja Turtles was canceled!

    by KinjoAlcoholicNinja

    And there was much rejoicing.

  • June 16, 2012, 10:19 a.m. CST

    You guys know this is not good news?

    by Jobacca

    Apparently its being retooled because of the budget,not because it sucks. The script is currently too expensive,so all they'll do is cut some corners and give us a cheap and shitty looking movie where the turtles are aliens and arent teenagers.

  • June 16, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST

    How to be a good Ninja Turtle movie:

    by kbarber29

    1.) Must have Krang 2.) Must have Krang's underground mobile fortress digging passages through Earth's dirt. 3.) Must have Foot Clan getting their ass whooped. 4.) Must have Shredder, Baxter as a mutant fly, Casey and his hockey stick, and April must be hot. 5.) Krang, Krang, Krang. Krang in biosuit as the final boss stomping on NYC. Must be totally epic.

  • June 16, 2012, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Must also be live-action.

    by kbarber29

  • June 16, 2012, 11:27 a.m. CST

    The normal human reaction to this news is...

    by John Baker

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDj03tDeUMY

  • June 16, 2012, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Lord Simultaneous! Hell yeah

    by Doctor

    Love the original Eastman and Laird b& w series. Triceratons a go go!!!

  • June 16, 2012, 2:04 p.m. CST

    kbarber29's comment shows a problem

    by Chief Joseph

    Some people WANT the dumbed-down kiddie version from the 90s cartoon with Krang, Bebop, & Rocksteady. The first live-action movie was probably as good an adaptation as we're going to get. There's things I don't like about it (the Foot being a group of teenage thieves and not real ninjas), but they are minor. If I were Bay, I'd do a sequel to THAT movie; ignore parts 2 & 3. That way you don't even need an origin story. But he won't. He's got to piss on it and make it HIS. Hence pointless "reimagining" that just makes the product worse.

  • June 16, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Yes, re-work that script!

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    We must preserve the sanctity of TMNT! Wait... what the fuck am I saying? I guess I should start caring about FUCKING ANYTHING ELSE ON EARTH!

  • June 16, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST

    The TMNT are the one property where a "gritty

    by Nasty In The Pasty

  • June 16, 2012, 2:45 p.m. CST

    reboot" would actually be welcome

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    [Damn enter key...] Like most people who were around 12 circa 1987, I grew up on the idiotic cartoon series, but by 1989, I had discovered the original Mirage comics, and had pretty much outgrown the "baby version". With even the more recent cartoon series about five years in the past, the time is ripe to do this fucker RIGHT on the big screen. The 1990 movie was a reasonable compromise between the cartoon and the comics, but there's room for a PG-13 Turtles movie with the following... 1.) Correct origin: Hamato Yoshi, Oroku Saki, all that shit 2.) No April as a reporter. She should be played by an attractive actress yet not be a typical "Michael Bay Woman", with a greasy, bared midriff and the camera shooting up her ass 90% of the time. April in the comics was basically just room & board for the Turtles, she doesn't have to be some badass warrior of her own. 3.) Baxter Stockman as a black guy (blew my MIND as a kid when I read the comics and learned that Baxter was both black AND reasonably threatening) 4.) The Turtles are ALLOWED TO USE THEIR WEAPONS. You can have stabbing and slashing while still keeping the blood to a minimum. It always buggest the shit out of me as a kid that the Turtles in the cartoon would just waggle their weapons around threateningly...and then use them to cut down a convenient net that would fall on the bad guys, or some other such crap. Don't bother giving the characters weapons at all unless you let them USE them. 5.) Dark tone, with dashes of humor (everyone bagging on the Nolan Batman films for beaing "humorless" are clearly not paying attention...both films have plently of amusing lines, just not delivered in that "DE IZEMAN COMETH!" Schumacher camp style). The original comics had plenty of humor in them, while not overpowering the drama and action. Get the balance right. 6.) NO. FUCKING. PIZZA!!! Maybe *one* scene where they have a slice as a wink to the cartoon, but otherwise keep that shit on a leash. Did they EVER eat pizza in the Mirage comics?

  • June 16, 2012, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Ninja Turtle "girlfriends".

    by UltimaRex

    Nobuko. (Leo, Archie comics) Ninjara. (Raph, Archie again... wtf?) Horridus. (Mike, Image comics) Don's the odd turtle out. No one talks about Venus.

  • June 16, 2012, 6:03 p.m. CST

    I wish someone had cared enough about Prometheus to do the same.

    by Ironhelix

  • June 16, 2012, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Billy - thanks for putting in an effort.

    by Red11

    Some people crap on you, but this was a fun write up. "more Channing Tatum" got me to smirk.

  • June 16, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST

    brightgeist, people can understand and still not like.

    by Red11

    Yes, some people that don't like it, don't like it because they don't get it. That doesn't mean everybody that doesn't like it, doesn't get it.

  • June 16, 2012, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Really, just murder Brad Fuller

    by zol

    Two in the head, hopefully in front of his family. The people who mock our history should bleed for their crimes and fear our wrath. It's no different than a museum guard killing a vandal, it is easily morally justifiable. Eddie Seidel shouldn't have jumped, he should walked slowly and with purpose...

  • June 16, 2012, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Thank God!

    by SilentXero

    Maybe they can make a decent movie out of TMNT then!

  • June 16, 2012, 10:03 p.m. CST

    I agree, nasty in the pasty.

    by frank

    Faithful adaptations of the Mirage comics could make for excellent movies. Unlike Transformers, there are actually really great, established stories for TMNT that would translate well to film. I’m sure whatever ends up getting made will be terrible, though.

  • June 17, 2012, 12:06 a.m. CST

    I want a MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE movie!!!

    by Jake Pantlin

  • Still holds up well. Great atmosphere, characters, and action. Man I loved those fucking turtles as a kid!

  • QFT. The 1990 movie nailed it perfectly. It was THE best comic book adaptation of the time. It made more sense than Richard Donner's Superman and was more true to the source material than Tim Burton's Batman. That first scene where Shredder sees April on TV, throws the knife at the screen, and says "FIND her... Silence her" sets the tone of the movie perfectly.

  • June 17, 2012, 10:22 p.m. CST

    You know what needs to be adapted for the big screen?

    by PhineasFlynn

    Thundarr the Barbarian. Lightsaber and wookiee rip-offs, a hot sorceress, and a post-apocalyptic setting. How has this movie not been made yet?

  • June 17, 2012, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Am I gonna have to write it myself?

    by PhineasFlynn

    'Cause I totally will.

  • June 17, 2012, 11:15 p.m. CST

    And to come full circle, Peter Laird says Prometheus sucks.

    by Chief Joseph

    http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2012/06/review-of-prometheus-movie.html

  • June 17, 2012, 11:49 p.m. CST

    WHOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

    by DukieMichaelNamondRandy

    I HOPE THEY "CHILL" WITH THAT ALIEN BULLSHIT!!!! SCRIPT PROBLEMS = TERRIBLE FUCKING IDEA BY MICHAEL BAY COMPLETELY DE-CENTRALIZING THE POINT OF THE SERIES! FUCK YEAH, DELAYS! This is better news than Will Smith being taken out of the picture on the Old Boy remake....of course...then Mr. Inconsistency Spike Lee signed on...so....well, it's refreshing to say the least.

  • June 18, 2012, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Welcome news!

    by Wcwlkr

    If this were never made I'd be more than happy. Go away Michael Bay please.

  • June 18, 2012, 10:30 a.m. CST

    1st movie is actually pretty gritty and dark

    by kidicarus

    2nd is the summary of my childhood in movie form.

  • June 18, 2012, 12:40 p.m. CST

    The old toons already ruined the franchises rep

    by alienindisguise

    abominations

  • June 18, 2012, 12:47 p.m. CST

    When do story changes indicate contempt for the source?

    by Darth Macchio

    Let me point it out to the suits (might have to pull some of those hundreds out of your ears)... Teenage mutant ninja TURTLES. One more time... Teenage mutant ninja TURTLES. And just in case the back row missed it...TURTLES.TURTLES! They're turtles? If you think that's stupid and want to change it so it makes sense to you. Stop. Go away. You don't like the source/lore of the fiction so go away and allow someone who does like it put their imagination to work. I think this is an underlying cause for a lot of "geek" properties that wind up shit - the production crew either holds contempt for the source material or the fans of said source material. That's why that Transformer had clanging metal balls and the other was a racial stereotype...something you'd never EVER in a million years see in either the cartoon or the action figures themselves. It seems more and more obvious which each geek beloved property brought to life. I think some do obviously love the source and still fail (to an extent, Zack Snyder with Watchman, Singer with Superman Lives, etc) but then you get these fast lane folks like Bay. Now, picking on Bay is nothing new around these parts and there's certainly no need to keep doing so...but I think it kinda misses the point too...that the more absurd a concept is on it's face, the more the production crew as a whole simply must believe in that concept and must have the passion necessary to bring it to life. Without that, we get mindless changes seemingly out of nowhere (changing mutated turtles into aliens) or something serious but absurd to outsiders (Transformers) having slapstick aspects to keep those outsiders entertained. I don't know...speculation mostly but I think there's some truth grains in there somewhere...